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hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are lord digbyjones, former trade minister, and broadcaster henry bonsu. welcome to you both. let us look at what else is come in. the guardian says the uk labour leader keir starmer is putting pressure on borisjohnson to implement a national lockdown is the number of dead daily climes through the pandemic. same story on the telegraph. it says the british prime minister is now considering a short circuit breaker lockdown to try and contain the spread of the virus. the times suggests borisjohnson has

in fact hardened his stance against the idea despite the rising pressure. the i says the health secretary matt hancock has defended the position, insisting ministers are trying to avoid a loss of life. a sobering warning in the daily mail saying that strict rules will be neededin saying that strict rules will be needed in social distancing and masks until nextjuly even if trials of the oxford vaccine start at the end of this year. right, we have 1820 minutes or so. welcome back both of you. henry i started with lord digby last time around. telegraph the walked battle begins. the political impact of what keir starmer had to say caught my eye withjohnson starmer had to say caught my eye with johnson conceding starmer had to say caught my eye withjohnson conceding at starmer had to say caught my eye with johnson conceding at the starmer had to say caught my eye withjohnson conceding at the top left—hand corner of the telegraph

thatis left—hand corner of the telegraph that is circuit breaker which is what keir starmer has asked for it may be necessary if his tier system fails. that's according to the briefing that paper has run with for some interesting just a position of those photos on the top half of the paper there. we have borisjohnson from downing street with the chancellor rishi sunak behind him and to the right we have keir starmer and you get the impression of him getting caught and viselike grip because you have the chancellor who wants the prime minister to back business and save the economy and not go too far and keir starmer you wa nt not go too far and keir starmer you want him —— he attacked him tonight, saying he has lost control and keir starmer is following the signs and borisjohnson is not. and he is under extreme pressure, not that we switch from 42 tory mps who rebelled against him in a vote this evening

and the problem is if he delays and goes to the circuit breaker waiter, then keir starmer will be able to say "we told you so." but then if he doesn't do it at all, there will be some startling figures increase in this piece and possibly up to 100,000 deaths and we don't know what the science behind that modelling is but those figures are eye—catching and they will force the prime minister to stop and think about whether he has this right.“ the prime minister caught in a viselike grip? i don't think it is a viselike grip? i don't think it is a viselike grip, i think he is being caught by a complete commitment by keirstarmer into caught by a complete commitment by keir starmer into party politics. in a very mature democracy repay taxpayers money to man to oppose her majesty's government. that is what the leader of the opposition does is hold the government to account and attack when they do not think it is right in an environment of being

able to do so democratically. i am not going to say he is wrong or right to do it, all i am observing is that this guy is basically politicising what is a national crisis. and the problem is he has the advantage as all oppositions do for being able to say, "i would do this." he hasn't then have to go into the country and the messa creates or into the country and the messa creates oi' govern into the country and the messa creates or govern the country on the science in this instance and finding the science was either misplaced oi’... the science was either misplaced or...i the science was either misplaced or... i remember back in march we did this programme henry and i and we had a problem where they were saying half a million people will die if you do not lockdown the country. borisjohnson die if you do not lockdown the country. boris johnson is die if you do not lockdown the country. borisjohnson is getting such hell in the newspapers for wrecking the country by walking it down. three weeks later the opposition were on his case saying "why didn't you lockdown

earlier?"... "why didn't you lockdown earlier?". .. the telegraph which is a tour supporting party, they had been briefed saying borisjohnson is actually considering a circuit wrecker may be necessary. this is not politics, he may think it is necessary to save lives. ten can i come in here? i want to get digby back on this topic. i am not seeking —— not back on this topic. i am not seeking — — not saying back on this topic. i am not seeking —— not saying that it is wrong or borisjohnson would be doing it wrong. but i am saying in isolation it will not work because all you would do is pander to the need and the northern cities is saying this is being regionalized and victimized and set up the whole country and what you do at the end of two weeks, the students go back to disregarding the students go back to disregarding the rules, certain communities do the rules, certain communities do the same, christmas is coming and you have another problem. what do you have another problem. what do you do then, do you have another circuit breaker and go on like this all the time? and borisjohnson has to think of that and keir starmer does not. henry? 0k. complaining

about keir starmer profiting from what the scientists have said today is like complaining about the wind, digby. it is notjust keir starmer unlearned by this, scientists are alarmed, a lot of commentators in the newspapers, how many people died today? i remember people saying just three weeks ago the average number of deaths is only seven, only ten, only 30 for supper last week it was only 30 for supper last week it was only 70, now it is 143. next we could be 200. where do we draw the line and say the local lockdowns or attem pts line and say the local lockdowns or attempts at mitigation aren't necessarily working, we need to do something that envelops the whole country? i understand what you're saying about some of the northern cities and communities and it is not just communities in brantford or leicester which a lot of are

pointing out which is home to a lot of the asian or minority communities. it is poor white communities. it is poor white communities and in the northeast of eggen, we are talking about poorer communities and multi—occupational houses and people who do not have the luxury of social distancing and who have small apartments who have to go to work in front facing situations. that is where we are saying the greatest impact... hang on we can't spend the whole paper review talking about one paper. let's go on to the times which has the same story... and what is interesting in the times, digby, is that there is another sage advisory document obtained by the times which says that shows that a two week full lockdown from october could reduce deaths for the rest of the year from 19,900 to 12,100 and hospital

admissions reduced to 66,500. the scientists are not always right... —— reduced to 6500. that is interesting is that not? definitely andi interesting is that not? definitely and i don't know whether it is sure not. but at some point and this is the problem for every leader in the western democratic world. and i am including japan, australia and whatever, the biggest problem is this complete balance between public health and economic health. and if for instance you were in cornwall today which is the only hoop it in the map that the experts show is the only pit in britain that is clean of this stuff, so you will wreck every business there in a national lockdown? and henry the scientists and epidemiologists and professors have been wrong, haven't they? some of those projections way out from the beginning. well, we were told

that yes that if we didn't do anything, then the death toll could be as high as 500000 and people were going "well we only lost 43,000 within 20 days of a covert test" and the excess that has been well over 60,000 wasn't what then if we had attempt to suppress or mitigate or alleviate any way whatsoever and we just allowed the virus to spread like wildfire through the young, the strong and try to shield older people? we know that people of all groups, all ages and backgrounds in the end mixed together and the death toll would have been huge. maybe not five and 1,000 but firmer than the 60 or 70,000 excess deaths that we've seen. —— far 60 or 70,000 excess deaths that we've seen. —— far more 60 or 70,000 excess deaths that we've seen. —— far more thought and thatis we've seen. —— far more thought and that is not people in their 80s affordable from this. anybody with certain types of comorbidities, information of the lung, processing

commission —— conditions, diabetes, obesity is not two or three main people you can put in that category, 30% of adults in this country are obese. —— or 30 30% of adults in this country are obese. —— or30 million 30% of adults in this country are obese. —— or 30 million people. significant number of them would not be put away for shielding but would be put away for shielding but would be vulnerable i want to bring on the guardian, this is the balance between lives and livelihoods. i record rice and people being made redundant. henry if you look at the guardian and the record number of redundancies, you will have two sorts, structural unemployment where employers have found different ways of doing things because of coronavirus and find there is a more productive way of doing it for some those jobs are lost forever. and then the second type is on employment that comes back when demand comes back particularly in hospitality and leisure and travel. another problem you have got, henry, is that you come up with those

examples and those of very, very good ways of mixture people understand this isn't just about the young, this isn't just understand this isn't just about the young, this isn'tjust about understand this isn't just about the young, this isn't just about the old. and everything you said i agree with. but what do you do if you are the prime minister? what do you do if you have to make the decision? do you recommend country's economy that is already pulsed? or do you take the balance? and if you take a balance and you say "i am going to close it for two weeks" and i have yet to hear from you henry, what happens when the r—rated will come down, lives will be saved? and then we come to another 3—4 weeks' time and... digby, we get tests and trace and... digby, we get tests and trace and isolate right, we have got it wrong. it has been horrible for the past six months. they got it right injapan, 127 past six months. they got it right in japan, 127 million past six months. they got it right injapan,127 million populations, just 1500 deaths. we make sure

stu d e nts just 1500 deaths. we make sure students get most of their lectures online instead of spreading it in huge super spreader communities. whose fault is that? that is not government pots iphone, that is students thoughts and disobey the rules. the government lost the trust of the people, that is part of the problem. the students will do what they will do and i do wag my finger at them to a degree, some of them have been ridiculous... hang on what's some wagging fingers and get there more of the papers. let's go to the daily mail, a vaccine boss no hope of normality untiljuly. even though this is andrew pollard quoted in the paper even though the first trials of this uk vaccine, the 0xford covid vaccine could be carried out at the end of the year, digby. i think he is onto something if what he is basically saying is a

society has got to learn to live with us. if you look at asia, it has left with infection, sars is a good example some 17 years ago. they learned lessons because they wear masks. they are used to it, they do what they are told in various societal ways that help other people. whereas we especially but also a lot of other european countries don't do what they're told. they don't wear their masks andi told. they don't wear their masks and i think what he was trying to say is you can get a vaccine, roll it out through key workers but society cannot just think the vaccine has been created here it is all right the next morning because it isn't and he is to say, "until next summer, get used to it you will be social distancing, wearing masks, you will be learning to live at that." and i think he is onto something. notice he did not say that we get a vaccine and the world will still end. he is pointing it in the right direction but i think as

the right direction but i think as the society we have to start having out the society we have to start having our eye out to help other people and we also have got to make sure that we also have got to make sure that we do what we are told. and we are not very good at that. until next july, henry that must be very depressing for a lot of people. and the other key point digby mentions is this vaccine isn't a panacea. it will come through in waves, key workers will get a, certain age groups may be the l three or the young. all these things must be decided once this vaccine is safe to use. given the projections of some people were making earlier on during this pandemic, nextjuly which is only nine months, ten months from 110w only nine months, ten months from now is not that bad. some people we re now is not that bad. some people were saying we would have to live with this with death from covid with social distancing... some were predicting a vaccine by christmas. social distancing... some were predicting a vaccine by christmaslj don't predicting a vaccine by christmas.” don't believe i believe any of those people. and neither did digby from oui’ people. and neither did digby from our previous conversations. but when you consider the poor press in the tropics around the world who live

with polio and malaria, dengue fever, things we have not seen for decades in this country, we can do this. it's about perspective. and if we socially distance, if we wear masks, we can mitigate and even suppress this disease. i was in manchester for the last four or five days and i saw a lot of people who we re days and i saw a lot of people who were not taking this very seriously. a lot of distress in the government. a lot of distress in the government. a lot of people... they thought the figures were made up and people were adding covid to the death certificates when it wasn't really covid, all kinds of conspiracy theories and i thought to myself is this the reason why it is so high in my home city? people have to do the right thing even if they are not happy with it because in the end it does kill an awful lot of people. henry, i was! let's does kill an awful lot of people. henry, iwas! let's go does kill an awful lot of people. henry, i was! let's go to what is

happening in the states, you have the picture ofjoe biden going down to the keats swing state of florida wearing a mask, same issue in the states with donald trump in his last rally did not wear a mask at all. he was three masks to his supporters. what did you make the way of the selection is going, digby?” what did you make the way of the selection is going, digby? ithink donald trump is in the last chance saloon. biden is taking the fight to what have been thought of the safe trump say. i think trump is losing it. there is a old—fashioned word that means meaning under pressure and losing it. i think he is showing that. this brief off comes the mask standing on the balcony like almost mussolini asked in the way that he was standing there puffed up, and i think a lot of people who are republican are moving towards biden in the same way a lot of people who we re in the same way a lot of people who were democrat move towards reagan.

—— almost mussolini—esque. and i really do think that the next two or three days are going to be awful for donald trump and it is biden's toulouse. and henry, it is not clear if we will get a result quickly after november the 3rd polling day. —— biden's to lose. after november the 3rd polling day. -- biden's to lose. it will be several days i think. it could be weeks or months to some people. let's hope not. with all the concern about voter suppression, trump telling his lieutenants to go and monitor the polls, all the fears about voter suppression, i think people have been voting in line very early art really determined to cast their bows and according to what i am seeing from florida and some of the other early voting states, huge numbers of people particularly democrats are getting out and prepared to stand and wait in the

sun for ten hours. it reminds me of elections in countries that have seen repression elections in countries that have seen repression and tyranny and dictatorship for years and then suddenly they get an erection and eve ryo ne suddenly they get an erection and everyone wants to cast their vote. we are seeing that in america and i think that will help biden rather than trump because he has not appealed beyond his base in the last four years... one saintjust add because i agree with henry on this “ one because i agree with henry on this —— one thing just at. it is noise present to agree with you henry. it is that one thing is not getting mentioned in the selection and i wish it was is if biden wins this, we have a vice president and kamala harris who will break new ground and everything she does. the very fact and what she is and who she is, and i think that is hugely important especially with biden being the eldest president there will ever have been. we are not talking about that enough, i think it's a most

wonderful moment for democracy in the richest democracy on earth. not necessarily so good for brexit though ina necessarily so good for brexit though in a trade deal with britain, digby. well everybody talks like trump and boris having this relationship and trump helping britney in a trade deal. and he would but it will come into cost wasn't —— trump helping britain in a trade the office of america has had a special relationship with britain with intelligence sharing, military and nato. but i recognise this and saw first— hand experience and nato. but i recognise this and saw first—hand experience that, america has always had its pound of flesh and trade deals... digby i am sorry to stop you but we have time limits on this paper review. and i do promise you the last word which i have given you! and henry love to —— love to see both. the last word was

on the football! no time for that, next time facet that is our second look at the papers. hello, and this is your sports news. leading figures from efl clubs in the chamfer chip week one and two said there was on this unanimous support for the principles of project at big picture during individual league meetings today. they want to reduce the premier league from 20 to 18 cups and scrap the care about cup. the future we could get 25% of all future tv is plus one or £20 million.” could get 25% of all future tv is plus one or £20 million. i do think anyone spoke badly about it. there we re anyone spoke badly about it. there were concerns over certain aspects of it but the principle of it as i have believed all along has very sound. clubs are not looking at selling their souls for £250

million. this is not about to take the money whatever the cost. this is about the future sustainability of the english football league and premier league football which plays such a big part. portugal and juventus forward cristiano ronaldo has tested positive for coronavirus. he's reported to be "doing well, without symptoms, and in isolation" portugal face sweden in a nations league group game tomorrow. the remainder of the squad have tested negative for covid—19 and are available for selection. aaron ramsey has pulled out of the wales squad for wednesday's nations league match in bulgaria because of an unspecified injury. the 29—year—old's absence is yet another blow to the welsh, with midfielder david brooks is also injured while kieffer moore and joe morrell are both suspended. ramsey's injury has left manager ryan giggs admitting he faces a juggling act. england will be without ben chilwell and kieran trippier for their nations league match against denmark tomorrow.

trippier‘s been given a leave of absence to attend a personal hearing in relation to betting charges, while chilwell has pulled out with injury. striker harry kane has been declared fit. spurs bossjosie spurs boss josie marriner spurs bossjosie marriner is supposed against him starting tonight but gareth southgate denied there's a problem. he would have started the last game but hadn't had enough training time. he was obviously fine during the game, so he's fit, available and i didn't really understand the stories that are being run, and where that's coming from is not the conversations we've been having with spurs medically and it's not something that's really affecting us. manchester city's lucy bronze is back in the england women's squad for the first time in almost a year. lyon forward nikita parris is also in the squad for the friendly

against germany on the 27 of october. england's under 21 men beat turkey to book their place in the european championship next year. england was put 2—0 up. despite a late turkish consolation, england held on for their seventh win, eight qualifying games and will finish top with two games to spare. scotland are second in group four. six—day matches in the scottish league cup tonight. hearts made it three wins from three in the competition and possibly the pick of the goals across all the games with this solo effort from him,i games with this solo effort from him, i have trickle nd 3—1win over rovers. all‘s results are available on the bbc website. the rugby league where salford saved two of their players tested positive for coronavirus before the challenge cup final with wembley on saturday.

two more tests were inconclusive so now all players are self—isolating. earlier today, salford lost by 24 points to 22, while warrington moved into the top four. they appear to have an eye on saturday's final. they feel inexperienced line—up. —— field and inexperienced line—up. ashton scored two. the winning points were caked with the score was locked at 16 all for some that is where... that is where we will go straight to the united states because the supreme court nomination process for amy coney barrett, president trump's choice for the spring court, continues. we are wife now with kamala harris the vice presidential candidate for the democratic party

now questioning amy coney barrett. it will be interesting to see what tone she takes. kamala harris one of the mostjunior tone she takes. kamala harris one of the most junior members tone she takes. kamala harris one of the mostjunior members of this committee, let's listen in. thousands of americans from all over oui’ thousands of americans from all over our country and walks of life credit into the halls of the united states capital to require that lawmakers see their faces and understand how they would be hurt if there was a repeal of the affordable care act. brief activists in the disability community staged sit ins on the hill. seniors protested to keep prescription drugs affordable. mothers and fathers walked the halls with their children in strollers to show congress the face of those who depended on the wall and doctors and nurses protested to protect their patients assess to the care they desperately need. —— patient‘s

access. together with many of my collea g u es access. together with many of my colleagues ijoin civil rights and community leaders to speak to the thousands of people who gathered outside the capitol and pleaded as they begged with lawmakers to do the right thing. all of these dedicated americans demanding that their voices be heard, and they made a difference. they made a difference. history will remember that in late night thumbs down movement when the greatjohn mccain denied republicans the opportunity to repeal the affordable care act. and now, a following a decade of failure, washington republicans have realised that the affordable care act is working too well and helping too many people to repeal it without facing serious political consequences. but what are they doing? after suffering the backlash

that they provoked by targeting the law in congress, they decided instead to circumvent folders and try to strike down the affordable ca re try to strike down the affordable care act through the courts. right now, the trump administration and senate republicans are urging the supreme court to strike down the entire affordable care act and all of its patient protections. republicans are scrambling to confirm this nominee as fast as possible because they need one more trump judge on the possible because they need one more trumpjudge on the bench before november ten to win and strike down the entire affordable care act. this is not hyperbole. this is not a hypothetical. this is happening. and here's what you have to know. people are scared. people are scared of what will happen if the affordable ca re what will happen if the affordable care act is destroyed. in the middle

ofa care act is destroyed. in the middle of a pandemic. there are more than 100 million americans with pre—existing conditions like asthma and diabetes, heart disease who note that they will be denied coverage or charged more by insurance companies if donald trump is successful in getting rid of the affordable care act and because of the coronavirus, more than 7 million people have now a pre—existing condition that they didn't have earlier this year. those who depend on bbc eight —— the aca are afraid of their wise being turned upside down if the courts strike it down. they know what can happen. and just a spirit i will share with you and the american people a list. no protections from processing conditions. higher costs to health care for women and people over the age of 50 facet —— and justice barrett i will share. young adults kicked out their parents insurance. more expensive prescription drugs for seniors.

insurance companies refusing to cover mental health care, insurance companies refusing to cover maternity care. no free member grants, cancer screenings or birth control. insurance companies reinstating annual and lifetime caps and more than 20 million americans losing insurance at the worst possible time, again, in the midst ofa possible time, again, in the midst of a pandemic. possible time, again, in the midst ofa pandemic. including possible time, again, in the midst of a pandemic. including nearly 2 million texans, 6007000 north carolina inns, 288,000 south carolinians, 227,000 iowans, and 4.2 million californians. and the pain of losing these protections would disproportionately be felt among the 9 million african—american latino, asian and native americans who gained coverage under the affordable ca re gained coverage under the affordable care act. but this isn't about

statistics. this