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this is bbc news, the headlines: police in thailand have moved in to disperse pro—democracy protersters who have gathered around government house in the capital bangkok. the government has brought in an emergency decree in response to a series of protests. they've banned gatherings of more than five people. france and germany have announced new restrictions to try to stop the spread of coronavirus. a strict night—time curfew has been imposed in paris. in germany, bars will be forced to close early and there will be limits on people meeting in areas with rising numbers of cases. temperatures about 5—8 degrees celsius for most, but a bit colder tough new restrictions where the skies do manage are coming into force to stay clearest longest. in the uk. schools in northern ireland on into thursday, then, will be closing for two weeks. and these north—easterly winds will continue to feed all pubs and restaurants, the cloud in for many areas. hairdressers and beauticians will also have to shut the west is best in terms of any sunshine. their doors for a month. but i suspect officials have suggested we will have quite hospitals are only 10 days a few showers at times away from being overwhelmed. through the morning across the wash area. and then the showers probably break out more widely across east anglia, as you head into the afternoon. all the while, we'll see this line of showers, through most of the day, now it's time for a look back affecting east kent and running on into
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the channel islands, where, for some, it could be quite wet. at the day in parliament. although, for many of us, again, away from those eastern areas, it will be a relatively dry day. theme music. brisk north—east winds gusting about 30 mph, around some of the north sea coasts, will make it feel rather cool. now, we still have those north—easterly winds for friday but, if anything, they're a little bit less strong. and again, friday is the day with rather hello there and welcome to wednesday in parliament where the labour leaders that it is time to listen to the scientists and have a short, welcome to bbc news. sharp lockdown. having read and my name's mike embley. our top stories: considered the sage advice, i police in thailand move have genuinely concluded that a in to disperse pro—democracy protesters gathered around government house in the capital. circuit breaker is in the national interest. but boris johnson accused him of france and germany announce new restrictions, opportunities them. including curfews to johnson accused him of opportunities themli johnson accused him of opportunities them. i think it's three o'clock mr speaker, try to stop the spread of coronavirus. the shadow health spokesperson said the lockdown would be disastrous. at 5:00pm he was calling for it! also in the the first lady reveals that programme, the first minister 14—year—old barron trump of wales says he's going to ban contracted covid—19, but suffered no symptoms. people from travelling there could grey power be the from parts of uk with x—factor in the presidential
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election? we report from a retiring, coronavirus. people of wealth but not exactly shy, are coming for us to take battleground in florida. action that will protect them from people travelling into how many of you want this election to be over? wales from areas elsewhere. and where will lorry drivers go, (cheering) quite literally, if they are queueing in their camps come the final stage of brexit? first, to prime minister's questions and boris johnson defended his decision to impose a three tier system of coronavirus restrictions on england but did not rule out com pletely england but did not rule out completely a so—called circuit breaker lockdown. most of the country is in the lowest tier medium but millions of people in the north and midlands faced extra curbs on households mixing. liveable city region was first to be put into year 3, facing the toughest rules with pubs and bars not serving meals. the labour leader pointed to the scientific advisor of stage three weeks ago saying they should be a
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shorter period of stricter rules across england. since he rejected the advice of sage on the 21st of september, i remind him the rh has gone up, the infection rate is quadrupled and hospital admissions are gone from 275 a day to 628 a day in england. yesterday, 4m covid—i9 patients are ventilators and deaths recorded was tragically the highest sincejune was tragically the highest since june ten. that was tragically the highest sincejune ten. that is the cost of rejecting the advice. sage has a clear view on why thatis sage has a clear view on why that is happening. what is the prime minister view on why these numbers are all heading in the wrong direction? boris johnson told him the diverse eve was appearing more strongly in some parts than others. in liverpool alas the figures are running at 667 per thousand as opposed to cornwall, 5a7 alas as opposed to that in norfolk
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which is why the three tiered approach that we set out on monday and that he then supported is the right way forward and we want to put in the most stringent measures necessary in the places where the virus is surging in order to get it done surging, mr speaker! that is the logical thing to do. the labour leader turned to another conclusion from sage, that test and trace was having only a marginal impact on transmission. letters have not the usual nonsense for anyone asking the prime minister about track and trace is knocking nhs. this is the assessment of sage, the government advises, forup to sage, the government advises, for up to £12 billion, letters have a straight answer and white of the prime minister think that his track and trace syste m think that his track and trace system has gone so wrong? boris johnson said it was thank you to track and trace that it was clear where the virus was surging and said the labour
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leader had not voted to bring in their three tier system. this is one thing at 5:00pm about calling for a lockdown when it came for a vote in the house of commons to impose more stringent measures, he felt even to turn up! mr speaker, i know that for someone who has been an opportunist all his life... this is difficult, this is difficult to understand. but having read and considered the sage advice, i have genuinely concluded that a second break is in the national interest. the whole point, mr speaker, is to seize the moment to avoid the misery of another national lockdown into which she wants to go headlong by delivering a regional solution and mr speaker opportunism is i'm afraid the name of the game for the party opposite because they backed the rule of six, he
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backed the rule of six, he backed the rule of six, and then refused to vote for it. i think at three o'clock mr speaker the shadow health spokesman says the national lockdown would be disastrous and at five o'clock he was calling for it! he will know that the chief medical officer said on monday, his words, the chief medical officer, not confident nor is anyone confident nor is anyone confident that the t3 proposals for the highest rate would be enough. this morning, the telegraph quotes a senior government sources thank the chances of the prime minister backing a circuit breaker in the next two weeks are about 80%. |s the next two weeks are about 80%. is that right? and if it is, why doesn't he do it now, save lives and fixed testing and protect the nhs?|j save lives and fixed testing and protect the nhs? i rule out nothing, of course, in combating the virus, but we are going to do it with the local, regional approach that can drive down and will drive down
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the virus if it is properly implemented. the west mr leader warned of a tsunami of unemployment resulting from the virus. thousands of lost jobs, the ons has confirmed the highest rate of redundancy since 2009, we are heading towards a tory winter of mass unemployment created by the prime minister and the chancellor. we know what the prime minister tory colleagues are saying, the prime minister is nextjob are saying, the prime minister is next job could are saying, the prime minister is nextjob could be on the back benches, he just doesn't know it if the prime minister won't you turn on his plans to scrap fellow, does he realise he will never, not ever be forgiven for the damage he is just about to call to people up and down scotland 7 just about to call to people up and down scotland? as i say and i've said many times to the right honourable gentlemen, this government is continuing to
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support people right across the uk, at least £5 million for scotland alone and i will congratulate him on the scottish nationalist party for the tiered approach. which i think is still there policy, mr speaker, unlike the party opposite. at least they are showing some vestige of consistency in their normal behaviour. boris johnson. people from parts of england, scotla nd people from parts of england, scotland and northern ireland having high rates of coronavirus will be banned from travelling to wales from friday. the first minister of wales said it was needed to prevent infection within wales and in the uk. mark drakeford has written twice to boris johnson asking for travel to be restricted but the uk government has refused, instead asking people in the tier liveable city region to avoid nonessential journeys. liveable city region to avoid nonessentialjourneys. the
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leader asked how it would be introduced? how will you communicate this across the uk and is it possible to do it now so and is it possible to do it now so it does have an impact in terms of lockdown areas during the half term period which will start in england next week. the timetable for the powers that we have in wales is to do it by the end of the week. that gives more time for the prime minister of the more time for the prime ministerof the uk more time for the prime minister of the uk government to do the things that we have asked him to do, to do the same thing for people who will live in england, as we have done for people who live in wales. in england, as we have done for people who live in waleslj read the paper that accompanied the promised a letter and it confirms that the data does not constitute definitive proof in favour of a travel ban. in
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fa ct, favour of a travel ban. in fact, that paper goes one step further and suggest it should be considered alongside a range of other factors before a conclusion is reached and it also shows a —— that transmission rates in relation to travel have peaked in august into september. do you believe the paper constitutes enough evidence when by its own words it implores you to consider it alongside other data to justify the travel ban? first minister said the people of wales were clamouring for the action he was proposing. people are anxious and fearful on the effects of their areas from people from very high concentration areas, not being able to travel from wales but absolutely still being able to travel from england to those areas. so he is entirely out of step with the views and preferences of people in wales andi preferences of people in wales and i was glad to publish the
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paper yesterday. it certainly does not employ me to do anything and i am more likely to rely on the advice of those who are experts in genomics rather than amateur readers of that advice. meanwhile at stormont, arlene foster announced the tightening of coronavirus restrictions in northern ireland including extending the school half term break to a fortnight. talks ran into the early hours of wednesday as ministers tried to reach a compromise on a range of measures, finally agreeing toa of measures, finally agreeing to a package that will apply forfour to a package that will apply for four weeks from friday. to a package that will apply forfour weeks from friday. as well as the extended school closure, the new roles include the closure of the hospitality sector, apart from deliveries and takea sector, apart from deliveries and take a ways, no alcohol felt after atm and an end to most indoor sports and closure of headdresses and beauty parlours. she made a statement.
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we fully appreciate this will be difficult and worrying news for many people. the executive has taken this decision because it is necessary and we discussed the impacts in great detail and we do not take this step lightly. we want these measures to have two impacts, firstly, on the covid—19 transmission rates which must be turned down now or we will be turned down now or we will be in be turned down now or we will beina be turned down now or we will be in a difficult place very soonindeed be in a difficult place very soon indeed and secondly we believe it marks a point where everyone, each and every one of us, can take stock and go back to the social distancing measures vitally important. judging by the hundreds of messages i have received overnight, people across the north went to bed last night not knowing if the children will be going to school today, if businesses would be opening or if they go to work and the confusion over the past 24 hours has certainly not helped that. many of these decisions will make a huge impact on peoples lives but they are for four weeks. we are determined
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this will be time limited intervention. they are, they will not continue past those four weeks. it is beyond doubt that these measures are now absolutely necessary and indeed urgent and also obvious as you mentioned that they have implications a knock on impacts and the system in place to test and the system in place to test and trace has struggled to cope so and trace has struggled to cope so will the executive use this opportunity and this time to reboot and put in place an effective find, test, trace isolate and support system so that a livery element of that syste m that a livery element of that system is working? we felt it was important that we came to the house today to outline the issues and terms of restrictions but we will have much more to say tomorrow about the support that will be in place to try and assist people whether they have to self isolate or whether there are people whose businesses have to close. public health message
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must be the first message in parity, however there are businesses across northern ireland who will be hurting today and there will be businesses making very difficult decisions, notjust about the support that this executive is going to give them but whether there is a future for their business. can you share with us any evidence you we re share with us any evidence you were shown all the executive we re were shown all the executive were shown all the executive were shown around the risk and are there any other ways of mitigating risk, i know as an mlai mitigating risk, i know as an mla i have received e—mails from headmasters and had mistresses from schools, wondering to know why they are having this extra week? these decisions weighed heavily on us today, particularly protecting young people which is why we have kept this school closure to an absolute minimum and i think that was the right thing to do. arlene foster. you are what she wednesday in parliament with me. the culture secretary had
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described as positively hateful keeping theatres closed and spectators away from sports venues but said it was necessary to stop the spread of coronavirus. the shutdown has hit hard across the cultural sector. earlier this month 400 freelance musicians played outside parliament to highlight the plight of the music industry during the pandemic. the musicians union, which represents more than 32,000 performers in the uk, says that 70% of its members have lost more than three quarters of their regular work leaving many in financial hardship. appearing before the commons culture committee, oliver dowden was asked whether he was presiding over a complete destruction of the cultural sector. i don't think it is a fair characterisation on ministers or officials in my department to say that we have presided over destruction. we have worked in and day out both to ensure we get all our sectors back up and running as much as we possibly can,
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consistent with public health advice and the safety of the nation and we have got record amounts of support in for those sectors which, of course, face many huge challenges and i do not deny those challenges for a moment. one of the terrible things about being a minister during this crisis, particularly a ministerfor culture, sports and other areas is that i'm doing things i find positively hateful. i do not wa nt to positively hateful. i do not want to be a stopping theatres from operating properly nor stopping fans from entering stadiums. the reason why we are doing this and paying that price is in order to secure public safety or to control covid and we are taking record measures to support all those sectors through this difficult period of time to kevin brennan asked about support for freelancers, quoting a professional flautist.|j freelancers, quoting a professionalflautist. i have gone from being an active and engaged member of society serving musical charities and
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educational projects to someone who cannot afford to leave their house. i can barely afford food. i cannot afford to support my family in their hour of need and i cannot pursue my education that i have saved and waited ten years for. i would have been performing internationally this summer, an ambassador for my art and culture. i have not left my house and have not seen another human being. i am looking to sell the instruments that fostered so many connections and brought so muchjoy. i am no longer a and brought so muchjoy. i am no longera memberof and brought so muchjoy. i am no longer a member of society. now, jacqueline is one of those people who made her living as a museum that make musician partly through and partly through performing. and because income from teaching were slightly over 50% of income she did not qualify for any of these government schemes many of these issues, that element of these issues, that element of herjob is zero hours contract. so most of it disappeared with covid—19 and all the performing work disappeared and the government
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has not wrapped its arm around jacqueline. what do you have to say to people, real people like that who are in this sort of situation? i know that the only way we can get those people back to thejob way we can get those people back to the job they love and that generates wealth and opportunities for people and fulfils them and help support theirfamilies is fulfils them and help support their families is to get people backin their families is to get people back in theatres without social distancing, get the economy back to normal. we are working tirelessly to achieve that consistent with the public health guidance. but then we are working to support the industry through a range of different schemes. i know that jacqueline in this case, from what you describe, is not eligible for the self—employed job support scheme but that is why we put other support exa m ples why we put other support examples through. kevin also asked about a government backed advertisement that suggested valet dancers should retrain in cybersecurity. the job ad sparked a social media
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backlash. oliver dowden described it as crass. it has since been taken down. i will not repeat what i said already about the creative jobs but it turns out that that woman is from a ballet school in georgia, atla nta ballet school in georgia, atlanta in the usa. can you promise that if the government will put crass advertisements like this out that a feature real british artists and they should be paid for the use of their image? i made my views on that advertisement very clear andl that advertisement very clear and i would like to take this opportunity if you will allow me to once again restate the huge value of the performing arts in this country and my passion that i have, i was at the royal ballet on friday and it was wonderful to see artist
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to perform again and i know the huge value they bring to the country. the house of lords has passed a motion condemning the government's handling of the pandemic. a regret motion tabled by labour was tabled by 256 votes— 250. the government's defeat came as peers debate debated the alert system for england. labour accused the prime minister of ignoring advice from scientists. as we heard earlier, minutes released on monday night showed that sage recommended a circuit breaker lockdown three weeks ago. since then the prime minister has made two announcements of new restrictions but has failed to act on or share the advice his government has received with parliament or the public. she said sage said the test and trace said sage said the test and tra ce syste m said sage said the test and trace system was having a marginal impact to for those who want to put their own and theirfamilies health, who want to put their own and their families health, the self—employed, unemployed and struggling businesses to go
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through that pain without the again, with the government ignoring the advice is shocking and unacceptable. the liberal democrats back labb's call for a circuit breaker to try and contain the virus. in the hope that we may have some relaxation, albeit possibly temporarily at christmas. my lords, i have never seen the prime minister is one of nature's round heads. but as things stand he looks set to succeed and follow oliver cromwell at council christmas as we know it. the noble lord and baroness reference the need for action in september and i say we take robust and proportionate action when introducing measures in england including the root of —— rule of six and the 10pm curfew as well as advising people to work from home when they can. each of those was carefullyjudged to protect lives and reduce transmission while minimising the impact on the livelihood of people. some peers for
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businesses such as gymnasiums should stay open in areas with high infection levels will i welcome the statements however after seeing much correspondent where people are confused and angry and concerned, this means their mental health is off the scale. a retired dock said is expanding testing had not had a significant effect in repressing the virus warned against seeking herd immunity. what more needs to be done to make our test track and isolation policy more effective? furthermore would she agree that any policy suggested by some of abandoning the suppression of the virus and in the —— adopting a herd immunity position is ethical fraud. across party approach is the way forward according to one man. political acrimony does not help to create national unity and would not be a very good idea if the labour leader were invited to number
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10 to sit down with the prime ministerand 10 to sit down with the prime minister and discuss these complex matters? i agree that we all want to work together in order to find this terrible disease and i think your lordship's house provides a good model for how constructive discussions can happen. bosses have warned that the new year could see thousands of lorries qin could see thousands of lorries q in office to get over the channel. they told the transport committee that the system for processing lorries was not yet in place and the result could be vehicles waiting for days to cross into france. they reckon that with britain due to leave the brexit transition period on december 31 and negotiations on a trade deal yet to conclude, it is not clear what documents will be needed for lorries transporting british goods to eu customers. at the moment, most drivers
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need little more than tickets, passports and the itinerary, but things will be different in january. on top of that, after january. on top of that, after january one, when eu implement full import controls, they will need evidence that they have the import requirements and that they have been met for all the goods they are requiring —— transporting. so they will need a movement reference numberfor each product and they can get that through a declaration of translink. —— that through a declaration of tra nslink. —— transit. that through a declaration of translink. —— transit. and they also need to get themselves, if they are going to dover, a kent access permit. so it is more paperwork and more time to prep that paperwork and significantly an increased risk of not having everything you needin of not having everything you need in orderfor your trip. the government describes a
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reasonable worst—case scenario describes cues of 7000 lorries on kent roads, possibly lasting forup to on kent roads, possibly lasting for up to two days. even if the scenario is better than that forecasted, do you think that laurie delays are inevitable from the first ofjanuary 2021? my from the first ofjanuary 2021? my view would be yes. and i have been in logistics and distribution for years now and i have managed transition start—ups and experienced where they go wrong where people don't understand the paperwork or how these things will work because you have a steep learning curve and what we're trying to do is rely on thousands of businesses and thousands of businesses and thousands of businesses and thousands of people all the time to understand the process and then we will flip the switch and from day one, start to manage those processes. but in the case of lorry drivers being delayed up to two days, what facilities other than toilet facilities will be provided for them? or are there
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plans to provide for them? because as you know there may bea because as you know there may be a proliferation of bottles filled with suspicious liquid but they will also need food and water. we are signing and providing access and clear signalling to drivers of where those facilities will be. again, to ease theirjourney because, absolutely, we want to consider the welfare of the driver. we know they play a vital role and play a vital role in the pandemic in keeping goods and services moving around the country and i am grateful to them for that and we need to think about their welfare because we cannot keep this country going without them. and that brings us to the end of this edition of the programme. join me at the same time tomorrow for our round—up at the week —— of the week at westminster. but for me, goodbye. hello there.
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when you think back to the start of october and just how wet it was, it's probably a good thing, actually, that we are in the midst of quite a quiet spell of weather. for many of us, we will have skies like these, over the next few days — often pretty cloudy, but with some brighter spells at times. high pressure to the north of the uk. low pressure in northern italy. and between these two areas of pressure, we've got north—easterly winds feeding in. and those north—easterly winds are dragging in a lot of cloud from the north sea. thick enough to bring some scattered showers across eastern areas of scotland at the moment. and we've got a few heavy showers just running into north—east england, 00:27:34,987 --> 2147483051:50:32,209 although these will ease over 2147483051:50:32,209 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 the coming few hours.
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