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this is bbc news. the headlines at five... millions of people adjust to tighter coronavirus restrictions in england, but there's still stalemate over greater manchester. in 15 minutes, we'll be answering your questions on what you can and can't do in yourarea. that's in your questions answered. stay with us for that. french police say samuel paty, the history teacher who was beheaded in a suspected islamist attack, had been threatened for several days. a landside election victory for new zealand's jacinda ardern, widely praised for her handling of the coronavirus pandemic. and in half an hour here on bbc news, lost boys — the story of how boys as young as ten are being drawn into criminal gangs.
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good afternoon. i'm rebecca jones. millions more people have seen covid—19 rules tighten, as areas including london, york and essex have moved up england's new three—tier alert system. but there's still stalemate between politicians in greater manchester and the government over the introduction of stricter coronavirus measures there. local leaders have denied a claim by downing street that talks have been arranged to resolve the row. latest government figures show that 150 more people have died in the uk after testing positive for covid—19 in the past 28 days. daniela relph reports.
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this is one of preston's oldest pubs. it doesn't serve food, so under the new restrictions, it will now shut. if you see how many cases are only linked to hospitality, we are the biggest problem. yet, for the second time, we are the ones that get punished first. it's the same story across lancashire. as well as pubs closing, there is now also a ban on households mixing indoors, in private gardens and most outdoor venues. from monday, lancashire faces further restrictions, including the closure of betting shops and soft play areas. but gyms stay open. in contrast to the liverpool city region where gyms have been forced to close. that sense of confusion and contradiction was felt by football fans in northern ireland last night. the players from coleraine and ballymena were warming up, some of the limited crowd were in. but with the game about to start, no one was sure what the rules were. i'm waiting on guidance from our head of police here, he was busy waiting on guidance
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from his boss as well. and we are keeping people outside the gate, which is not safe at this moment in time. northern ireland has already introduced its own form of circuit breake. the half term holiday has been extended by two weeks to the 30th of october. hospitality and beauty businesses have also been shut for the next few weeks. at the royal liverpool hospital, staff believe these tougher restrictions in their city and others are the only answer. this time last month, the trust was looking after 33 patients with covid. today, that figure stands at more than 300. we are overwhelmed. and it's not winter, it's not even winter yet. and look at us. it's... it's just really tiring. and really upsetting. across the uk, millions are now adjusting to changes in their communities. frustrating for many, but vital and necessary, say the government, to control the spread of this virus. daniela relph, bbc news.
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our political correspondent, jonathan blake, explained that there appears to have been a breakdown of communication between the government and greater manchester's local leaders. there has been something of a standoff between downing street and the elected mayor of greater manchester andy burnham over the last 48 hours or so. no talk between the two sides over what restrictions are appropriate and what restrictions the two sides could agree were needed in greater manchester and possibly an accompanying package of financial support since thursday morning. i understand there were talks at an official level between those in whitehall and those in greater manchester yesterday. it seemed like there had been some progress downing street told us around lunchtime they had reached out to the mayor ‘s office this morning and up telephone call had been agreed between the two sides for tomorrow morning. but a
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short time after that, spokesperson for the mayor said nothing had been agreed at this point. so, that leaves people wondering, i do get safe to suggest on the basis of those two statements, there is no agreement to talk tomorrow morning oi’ agreement to talk tomorrow morning or before than. certainly, andy burnham's site in this had made him clear that they will not make any further comment —— made it clear. on one level, that might seem like the tedious running commentary on the logistics of a negotiation, and it is, toa logistics of a negotiation, and it is, to a point, but also of these two sides cannot agree on the timing ofa two sides cannot agree on the timing of a phone call between them when there are such important issues at sta ke there are such important issues at stake here, which could have huge consequences, not least for the people of greater manchester and what restrictions they might find himself under, but also the continued spread of coronavirus. i think it does demonstrate a bit of a breakdown in communication, may be a breakdown in communication, may be a breakdown in communication, may be a breakdown in trust between downing street and andy burnham, possibly a
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bit of negotiating tactics going on between the two sides as well. jonathan blake, our political correspondent. the restrictions are having an serious impact on the hospitality industry, with three quarters of businesses saying they are making a loss. that's according to a survey by three trade bodies covering the sector, who are worried about the consequences of the end of the government's furlough scheme in a couple weeks. let's speak now to kate nicholls, chief executive of uk hospitality, one of the trade bodies who carried out that survey. more welcome to bbc news, thanks for joining us. tell us a little bit more about what you found out in this survey. it's a really worrying survey that we've been repeating across our membership base for the past few months to make sure we can track business confidence and business viability. this is a significant worsening of the situation our businesses are facing. it's a comprehensive survey that
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covers about quarter of the hospitality businesses in the uk. we found that 76% are taking a loss since the restrictions were tightened in september, revenues have have to. for those businesses in the northwest and northeast, leicester who have been trading under severe tear two restrictions, they represent —— revenues are low as 30% of normal levels. that is a significant drop below break even, result of which we think many will be unsustainable. one in four think they might not be open and that is translating to potentially three quarters of a million jobs lost by february masks here. —— next year. just for clarity, this survey obviously has come before the impact of the introduction of the tier
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system. is that right? that's correct. it was carried out last weekend, so people were anticipating what the changes would be, but we didn't know the detail of it and clearly, it's before big sections of hospitality, particularly the the london market of hospitality, the largest in the uk. one of the largest in the uk. one of the largest in the world, was put into tier 2. it's particularly acute in central london. those businesses are anticipating their revenue will drop to ten to 15% of normal levels. it's a very bleak picture this survey paints a very fragile sector fearful of two weeks' time, government support simply runs out. of two weeks' time, government support simply runs outlj of two weeks' time, government support simply runs out. i will come onto government support and what you're calling for, but i do want to ask you the question, do you accept that in your hospitality can help spread the virus? there are clearly
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a number of issues in a number of causes that create a spread of coronavirus, and it's clear that it's within the community, therefore transmission is taking place in a variety of settings. hospitality is not unique in being one of those potential sources of transmission, but it is unique in being singled out to pay the price and bear the restrictions of counteracting the disease. so, you talked about a level of compensation. as we said, the furlough singing comes to an end and a couple of weeks —— escrow scheme. what in your view is needed, bearing in mind there is into magic money tree? tier 3, you have to be fully closed and all of those people need to be laid off before any support is being made available. however, the businesses that are affected by tier 2 have maximum restrictions on their ability to earn, and as i say in manchester in
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the northeast, that's down to 30% of normal trading levels. we're asking the government to bear in mind hospitality is the only sector of the economy facing economic constraint, we're asking for a sector specific extension of the support scheme, and we are asking for those covid disruptions to be extended to is this is in the lower tiers while there are severe restrictions on their capacity and operating hours and the rule of six. we must leave it there but thanks for joining we must leave it there but thanks forjoining us on bbc news. the chief constable of greater manchester police has issued an open letter over claims he will not enforce a tier 3 lockdown without the support of the mayor. ian hopkins responded to a story on the front page of today's daily telegraph which suggests the government has not forced
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the tougher restrictions on greater manchester because of fears around police enforcement. ina way, in a way, it's trying to undermine the fundamental principles of policing in this country that chief constables are operating for a reason. with the consent of the public in the united kingdom, and thatis public in the united kingdom, and that is something that is dear to me and all my colleagues up and down the country. the police service has a code of ethics. and it'sjust not right. i don't feel it's right that the public of greater manchester should think that in any way, there is political interference in the way we police. one thing i think, i can say with real conviction is throughout this, i've spoken to andy burnham and had numerous meetings
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with him and senior officers from across the system, as well as several meetings with the home secretary and one with the prime minister. and everyone has agreed on the necessity for enforcement of regulations in place. everybody recognises that some of those are pretty tricky, and the police have had some really difficult decisions to make in dealing with those relations, but we have tried. we have tried in greater manchester, we we re have tried in greater manchester, we were one of the lowest enforced areas in the country because we saw huge amounts of compliance from people across greater manchester. since we've had the local restrictions in place around about ten weeks, we have ended up enforcing more and issue 506 e3 notices in that period —— 563. we get a lot of people trying their
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absolute hardest to comply, what are you doing about those people who are breaking the rules? most of the things that we're dealing with come from members of the public. france is in shock today after the murder of a teacher in the outskirts of paris. the teacher, who has now been identified as 47—year—old samuel paty, was beheaded near the school where, earlier this month, he had shown his pupils cartoons of the prophet muhammad during a discussion about freedom of expression. the killer, an 18—year—old of chechen origin, was shot dead by police. nine people including his parents have been arrested. lucy williamson reports. the horror of this attack spread slowly through the quiet streets of conflans last night. the story of a history teacher whose lesson on freedom of expression ended with a playground full of police. the suspect, thought to have been
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an 18—year—old chechen man, decapitated his victim in a nearby street and posted an image on social media before being shot dead by police. police sources have confirmed to us that the motive may have been a lesson given by the victim to pupils at his school here. it was reportedly a lesson on freedom of speech, and he showed them cartoons of the prophet muhammad, the same cartoons, we think, that were reprinted by the satirical magazine charlie hebdo. parents say the lesson had caused some concern and that complaints on social media had sparked a debate. translation: he asked muslim students to raise their hands and to leave the classroom. my son said he didn't do it to discriminate or offend, but explained that he was going to show cartoons of muhammad and didn't want to shock them. a girl stayed behind and chose not to leave the room. that is where it started. president macron, arriving
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from a government crisis meeting, said the attacker would not succeed in dividing the nation. translation: i want to tell all the teachers of france tonight that we are with them, that the entire nation will be there, at their side, today and tomorrow, to protect them, to defend them. to allow them to do theirjob, which is the most beautiful there is, to make free citizens. the education minister tweeted that unity and determination were the only responses to what he called a despicable assassination. france's national assembly stood in silence to honour the victim yesterday, a man who, just before the attack, had wished his pupils a happy half—term, with a joke. one parent said his daughter was devastated, asking, "how can i explain to her the unspeakable?" lucy williamson, bbc news,
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conflans—sainte—honorine. the prime minister of new zealand, jacinda ardern, has won a second term in office after a landslide general election victory. in office after a landslide with most of the votes counted, her labour party is projected to win an outright majority. its campaign focused on her handling of the pandemic. we've been attempting to tackle your questions on the new coronavirus restrictions, in bbc your questions answered, and we can listen back to that now. now on bbc news, it's time for your questions answered and you have been sending in your questions about the title rules that come into effect for many people across england. and i'm delighted to say that we are joined by doctor chris smith, of the
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university of cambridge and also senior clinical lecturer at university of exeter medical school. a very warm welcome to your both. good to have you with us on this saturday afternoon. we got a lot of questions, so i'll get straight to it. chris, ifi questions, so i'll get straight to it. chris, if i could start with you, this is from allison baker. she lives in london but her mother lives in wiltshire. allison was due to visit her mother next weekend for her 80th birthday, but says she's confused like so many as what she's allowed to do, because wiltshire isn't to which of course london is, and —— as she allowed to travel to see her? hello, allison. the answer is, the person inherits the risk according to the area they're from. so, if you're from an area that's in here to, judge high—risk, this means
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you are yourselfjudged high—risk —— in here too. if you were to go to a low risk area, you don't become lower as. you have to continue to practice the rules as though you are still in your home area, so the a nswer still in your home area, so the answer is you could still go and see the person you want to visit but you'd have to adopt the outdoors rule of six. meet outside. because you shouldn't be meeting other houses inside if you are in a high—risk area or they are coming to you. just to clarify, allison could go to seed her mother, celebrate her birthday as long as they were outside? that's right, or if allison provides care to her mum and mum needs and put in that respect, care is also exempt. if you're a caregiver or travelling to for work or educational reason, those are also exempt. if it's just a social visit for an area that high—risk, you can still meet but it's rule of six outside. you can't combine
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households indoors. barrett, i realise i'm being very familiar so forgive me not using yourfull titles. that picks up from a question from denise oakley. denise wa nts to question from denise oakley. denise wants to know, can i continue to provide childcare for my grandchildren while their parents work? one is in tier 2 in essex and the other is in tieri in syrup. i'm not quite sure those are right but we understand the question —— in providing care is allowed, having said that, i note the question says she is the grandmother. sol inferred that she may be in an older age group, and as you grow older, you pick up... my first concern would be for the grandmother, are
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you ina would be for the grandmother, are you in a fit and healthy state? do you in a fit and healthy state? do you have any other coexisting medical conditions, etc? asked those questions first, and secondly, yes you can because she is providing childcare. first of all, make sure you are ok to do so. in other words, there are other considerations and sometimes as well as the guidelines themselves. absolutely. chris, i think you have answer this question, but i think given that people take the trouble to get in touch with us, it's good to answer their individual questions. this is sophie cook. " i am in tieri and my boyfriend is in tier 2. are we still able to see each other?" again, you are taking a household from one area and seeking to mix it with a household in another area. if you both live alone, then you could form a social bubble together, and that is still a cce pta ble bubble together, and that is still acceptable because social bubbles across all the tears are exempted.
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it doesn't matter what tier you are in. if you have a social bubble, and the householder of single occupancy you can bubble up. that might be one way you can still meet, but remember our chief medical officer was asked a question at the beginning of lockdown, what happens if i don't live with my partner? her answer was now is the time to test the strength of your relationship. seeing if you can stay together without actually seeing each other. it is a serious point at the moment, if you are part of two different household, you shouldn't be meeting indoors if one of those household is in tier 2, the high—risk category. of those household is in tier 2, the high-risk category. chris, you mentioned social bubbles. can you remind us again of what the rules are if you're in a single household? how many people can be in your bubble? if you are in a single occupancy household, people in that situation might be lonely. they
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might have special needs, they might be bereaved and the government recognise that. those sorts of households can attach themselves, merging their many bubble to another household, a bigger bubble. you are judged as though you are one household, even though you may live in two separate locations and into different risk areas. social bubbles, unlike the majority of the population, are immune to the risk level, so you can continue to meet under the circumstances across all those divides and across all those restrictions. barrett, ithink the key word here you may pick up on is great. this is a question from collin woodward, who lives in wolverhampton and wants to know whether his four—year—old great—granddaughter can visit him from newcastle underline and stay for a few days. again, those are two
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people into different alert levels. both newcastle and wolverhampton are in tier2, medium both newcastle and wolverhampton are in tier 2, medium category. both newcastle and wolverhampton are in tier2, medium category. in both newcastle and wolverhampton are in tier 2, medium category. in tier 2, you don't want to be mixing with different household. that is the whole point of keeping your social distancing and your interactions with other groups of human beings. so, ideally, you don't want to be interacting from a tier 2, which is high with a tier 2 again, hi. and mixing up together. the key point here is you don't know the bubble of the granddaughter, how big it is, and you don't know the bubble of the grandparent, how big their other bubble is. therefore, it is riskier to start coming together to meet up. 0k, to start coming together to meet up. ok, chris, this follows on from that. can two people from different
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household but both living under the same restrictions in tieri spend time together, including, and this isa time together, including, and this is a slightly different element to the question, staying in a hotel in a tier 2 area? that's from kathy. this is slightly more complicated. if you've got to people from tier i, their risk isjudged if you've got to people from tier i, their risk is judged to if you've got to people from tier i, their risk isjudged to be if you've got to people from tier i, their risk is judged to be tier if you've got to people from tier i, their risk isjudged to be tier i. were they to stay at home, they could comfortably meet each other in their own homes because the rules allow for that at the moment. if you we re allow for that at the moment. if you were to travel to a tier 2 area, actually, you're bringing with you the risk you already have, low risk. were you to stay together in the hotel in tier 2, hotels and other venues must have by law implemented a covid—secure venues must have by law implemented a covid—secu re environment. therefore, your restaurant and change in terms of exposure. you are therefore not exposing each other to any more risks or being exposed to
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any more risks or being exposed to any more risks or being exposed to ore ‘s, any more risks or being exposed to any more ‘s, so i would say my interpretation would be its reasonable for you to stay in the hotel together because you're not bringing any additional risk with you by being there, as long as that venue you by being there, as long as that venue are complying with the rules. it might be worth phoning them in advance because venues are now required to collect information for people to come to stay, they may not be completely familiar with who's coming and what rules to apply. rather than create difficulty, it might be worth phoning ahead and clarifying the situation with them just to avoid that happening when you actually get there. that's good advice, chris. barrett, karen would like to know, are the people who are shielding last time being told to do it again? well, shielding by implication means you are in a vulnerable state. you've got other illnesses, immune suppression, whatever. my advice would be anybody who was with that shielding should ta ke who was with that shielding should take cover now, and be very careful.
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whilst the term shielding implies food parcels and other support things, which has not yet been fully cove red. things, which has not yet been fully covered. —— clarified from the government. anyone shielding should be extra, extra cost this now because the case numbers are going up because the case numbers are going up —— extra cautious now. therefore, please take all measures possible, whatever the label. that's useful, thank you. chris, this is a question, we live in essex which is currently here too, my daughter visits a different household, also in essex to teach their children for a this is paid work. is this allowed ? a this is paid work. is this allowed? that's from gavin reese. this raises a question that several people have asked me, can people's clea ners people have asked me, can people's cleaners still go to other households to work? if you look at
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the government's advice, you can find the category on the web, and i know not everyone has easy access to the web, so i'll be as clear as i can encase people can't refer to that. if you look up the area high—risk, you will see that it then says meeting friends and family. and what the exceptions are, and a number of exceptions are made. those exceptions include, as well as giving care, they include work and also education. i think therefore, under two categories, you're providing a work service and providing a work service and providing an educational service to the other people in the household. so, under those considerations, the other people in the household. so, underthose considerations, it would be ok. but if you look further down the list, it does advise people not to travel and to work from home where possible, so my first piece of advice would be to ask is there a nyway advice would be to ask is there anyway you could do this without having to visit all? that put you and them in the safest possible position. if you can't do this
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remotely, and by remotely i mean could you your teaching online, which lots of schools and universities are doing, if you can't, i think legally it will be absolutely appropriate for you to make those decisions. as long as they don't have symptoms, they're not aware of any outbreak in either the parties are being asked to isolate or quarantine, but if possible, i would advise trying to minimise the travel and do it online if you can. thanks for that clarity. barrett, a question from player. i think we've touched on this but let's a nswer think we've touched on this but let's answer her question directly. —— from claire. can she meet friends for a meal at a —— from claire. can she meet friends fora mealata pub in —— from claire. can she meet friends for a meal at a pub in tier —— from claire. can she meet friends fora mealata pub in tieri? she lives in a tier 2 area. we have answered this, but she takes her risk from tier 2, which is high, and she continues to have that high risk. you are going now to a place to have a meal with somebody from tieri. its medium risk, but we
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don't want tier 2 mixing with tieri because you are carrying your tier 2 risk with you. ideally, i would say don't do it. ok, we have to leave it there. we managed to get through most people's questions. apologies if we didn't get two years, but some good questions there and some great a nswe rs good questions there and some great answers as well. doctor chris smith and doctor barrett, we are grateful for you both. louise lear can answer all your questions about the weather. hello there. it's been quite a quiet saturday, hasn't it? a lot of dry weather but rather cloudy weather across the country, and the cloud thick enough for a spot or two of light, drizzly rain sinking its way out of scotland into northern england overnight. further south, we keep some clearer skies and here, there could be some patchy mist and fog. now, temperatures perhaps widely into single figures. what's in store for sunday? pretty much more of the same. we see this cloud with light, drizzly rain continuing to linger
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across scotland and northern england, hopefully some brighter spells further south. there'll be one or two isolated coastal showers dotted around and with light winds. if you catch a shower, they'll be pretty slow moving. temperatures, a similar feel to the last couple of days, slightly below par for the time of year, but we're looking at highs of 8—13 degrees. make the most of it, there is a sign of a change as we go into the early half of the week, as areas of low pressure start to push in from the atlantic. it turns increasingly wet and windy. hello, this is bbc news. the headlines — millions of people are now facing tighter coronavirus restrictions in england. lancashire moves into the highest alert category, but there's still stalemate over greater manchester. france's anti—terrorism prosecutor says samuel paty, the teacher
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