this is bbc news. the headlines: the talking continues as the noon deadline to agree a financial package for tier 3 restrictions in manchester passes. the prime minister will hold a news conference later. health is about more than controlling the virus. if we leave people in a tier 3 lockdown that could go on through the winter, where people can't go to their normal place of work, i think we could end up with a mental health crisis. the number of weekly registered deaths involving coronavirus across england and wales rises by a third in just seven days. some passengers flying from heathrow will be the first to have the option of paying for a 20—minute covid test before checking in. healthy volunteers in the uk will be infected with coronavirus to help the search for a vaccine — the first study of its kind

in the world. and coming up, the care home residents taking to tiktok to help pass the time during lockdown. good afternoon. a deadline passed at noon for local leaders in greater manchester to reach a deal with the government over moving to the highest level of coronavirus restrictions. so far — after 10 days of talks — there's no news. though there are reports that the mayor of greater manchester and the prime minister have been talking again. local leaders want a minimum of £75 million in financial support from central government, if the area is put into the ‘very high alert‘ level. that would mean shutting many pubs and big restrictions

on households mixing. without agreement, all eyes are now on the prime minister borisjohnson who's hosting a briefing in downing street later this afternoon. our correspondent dan johnson is in manchester. this city has been waiting for an agreement under this city has been waiting for an agreement on tougher restrictions that has eluded politicians and left people wondering what is to come and when. a decision needs to be made today, are we closing or not? nobody knows where they are going. surely local politicians will know best. if they are going to lock it down, do it now. local politicians have been waiting for more money to support workers and knowledge that the restrictions will be affected. we all want to help people in terms of their health. but what i would say to the government is this... health is about more than controlling the virus. if we leave people in a tier 3

lockdown which could go on through the winter, where people cannot go to their normal place of work, i think we could have a mental health crisis. # redemption song... a song of freedom for a city locking down once more, because people here are suffering. trevor's sister, a nurse, is herself in hospital with the virus. she sounded quite poorly yesterday but i hope she's recovering like she says. he worries about the wider possible implications. it seems to be getting worse, people are getting angrier across—the—board, as far as i can see. it could lead to trouble. this greengrocers has 100 years of history and mark relies on the trade of local restaurants. i can understand where andy burnham is coming from because of the local businesses round here suffering at the moment. will people accept government restrictions? i think they will.

i think people are fed up and want to get it done. but don't underestimate the bitterness left by the toing and froing. kirsty works at the university here. there has always been a divide between the north and south, i hope they can put differences aside and decide what will be the best for the north. you almost feel like the town's been evacuated. this street is like a ghost town. listen to amanda in the caribbean cafe next door, where patience is running low. part of me wants to know which tier we're in so we can have clarity, because there is no clarity at the moment anywhere, is there? surely we should have had an answer? tempers have been tested in parliament, too. last night the communities secretary offered just £22 million for a city region of 2.8 million people, less than the £25 million granted to his own town centre.

why does this government hate greater manchester? greater manchester is being treated exactly the same as every part of our united kingdom, these are national support schemes to help the most vulnerable. he raised a number of questions. there are national schemes to protect businesses, employees and provide support to his local authority. the next move is delicate, because these are serious questions of liberty, health and how we keep people safe from the virus and its wider impacts. these are tough decisions, and a test of who sets the rules and how best to make sure they are followed. danjohnson, dan johnson, bbc news, danjohnson, bbc news, manchester. and he is still there. a region in limbo at the moment but something is going on behind—the—scenes? limbo at the moment but something is going on behind-the-scenes? yes, andy burnham spoke to the prime minister around lunchtime today, and now we wait to see if that is going

to produce any sort of last—ditch deal, if they are able to talk about the details of this and come to an arrangement. 0r whether it will be left to the prime minister to do what the government threatened and enforce those restrictions. no one will want to go to that step easily because it is not what anybody wa nted because it is not what anybody wanted and it is not a positive way forward because if it has to be done, the government will no doubt thatis done, the government will no doubt that is being done to some degree at least without the support of local politicians and potentially some local people, but don't mistake the level of division and the strength of feeling here, it is not the case that everyone is united, and somebody came up to me before i spoke to you, say, andy burnham needs to back down, this is about people's safety, people getting the virus and potentially dying, the restrictions need to be tightened to stop that happening and to get the case numbers down, so there is strength of feeling and people are perplexed about the rules and why

this is taking so long and somewhat suspect this is about political posturing, no one wanting to give ground and to be seen to be on the losing side of this, and at the heart of this is public health policy and how we make sure that more people don't get the virus and end up in hospital. local leaders say they want to do the right thing and make sure the restrictions are actually realistic and that they do have an effect in bringing the number is down about that at the same time they can look after the workers and the people in the city who will be affected by the disruption that inevitably comes with those very high levels of measures. a lot at stake, it is a serious, high—level politics, ha rd —fa ced serious, high—level politics, hard—faced decisions serious, high—level politics, hard —faced decisions and negotiations, and the ball is now firmly in the court of the prime minister and we will have to see what he announces later. tempers are getting frayed and one mp they're accusing london of not caring about manchester and is that

a sense that you get, that this is turning into a north—south thing? you get, that this is turning into a north-south thing? that is the way some people see it. they feel resentment at the way the government has tried to enforce these restrictions already, that they have not been negotiating fairly and they don't understand the reality of life for people here, that there are vast numbers of workers in the city who rely on hospitality and low—wage industries that are paying very little at the moment and they have suffered already because of the disruption over the last few months and the reality for them in the months ahead is trying to exist on two thirds of their wages, and if that wasn't much to start with they won't be much in the future, and if people are on zero—hours contracts they have probably had very few working hours because of the local restrictions that have been in place, so what kind of support will there be for them? what about the knock—on industries? i was talked to —— i was talking to a taxi driver who said, what worked really

have to do? that is why people are looking at their local leaders to get reassu ra nces at their local leaders to get reassurances and frankly more money from the government —— what work will be taxi driver have to do? the bottom line, people want to know that extra measures will be in place to keep people safe and they want to know when that will happen and to clear up the confusion of exactly what the rules are and what sort of restrictions they will be living with for potentially the next few months. thanks forjoining us. let's speak to our political correspondent iain watson. he is in westminster. the perception is that there is a challenge to the authority of borisjohnson and westminster here. i suppose that is true, although boris johnson westminster here. i suppose that is true, although borisjohnson made it very clear if he doesn't reach agreement he will impose these restrictive measures, tier 3 measures on greater manchester, including the closure of most pubs and bars, and of course restrictions on households meeting outside and inside. the real deadline is five o'clock because the prime minister

has announced he will have a press conference at that time it so we will get the final decision then. the midday deadline has passed and talks between andy burnham, the mayor of greater manchester, and borisjohnson continued after that, andi borisjohnson continued after that, and i can give you an update on the talks. i hope you have no fear of figures! liverpool and lancashire we re figures! liverpool and lancashire were offered £8 per head for certain things including bolstering test, track and trace, worth £i2 things including bolstering test, track and trace, worth £12 million in liverpool and £14 million, sorry, 14 million in liverpool and 12 million in lancashire. greater manchester has been offered a 22 million, and what those areas also have got is an economic support package worth 30 million in both lancashire and liverpool city region, and! lancashire and liverpool city region, and i understand that manchester because it has a population almost twice that of liverpool, has actually been

offered 60 million in addition to the 22 million so that further money is for businesses who are forced to close asa businesses who are forced to close as a result of the new restrictions, but i also understand that that has been rejected by the politicians in greater manchester and this is the reason, according to the various populations and the various areas, that would be proportionate, but the argument being made is that their economy is so much bigger than the liverpool city region and that they have got more businesses, but in addition to that, those businesses have already suffered because manchester has been under greater restrictions since july, manchester has been under greater restrictions sincejuly, so with households already restricted from mixing indoors, be fruitful in hospitality venues has already fallen, so effectively they want more, a figure of 75 million —— the footfall in hospitality venues. it has been described that they are still in the tunnel and they can see

light at the end of the tunnel but they are still not there yet. so if there is a figure at between 60 and 75 million, perhaps they can do a deal, if not, we have got to see if borisjohnson it deal, if not, we have got to see if boris johnson it simply deal, if not, we have got to see if borisjohnson it simply imposes the restrictions, whether they agree or not, he will save the situation is likely to deteriorate and he is going ahead regardless. —— he will say. that is likely because we have a news briefing at five o'clock. yes, effectively he is calling time then, not the high noon deadline, we also understand matt hancock the health secretary is making a statement this evening and perhaps he will be announcing more areas will be moving into tier 3 restrictions. the government has got to be seen to be fair in different regions because there are also talks going on with south yorkshire at the moment and also talks elsewhere, with west yorkshire, as well, so it looks like they are giving greater manchester —— if it looks like they are giving greater manchester a

better deal than other areas, that will be the baseline other areas argue for, as well, but greater manchester leaders believe they have a logic in their reasoning, because of the effect it will have on businesses and they want to use the money to top up payments to the low—paid workers who might otherwise be laid off, because they are arguing the newjob support scheme from rishi sunak is not generous enough. thanks forjoining us. and we'll have a special programme with coverage of the prime minister's press conference here on bbc one and the bbc news channel — that's from 4:30 this afternoon. the number of weekly registered deaths involving coronavirus across the uk has gone up by more than a third in the space of seven days — and now stands above 400. a little earlier i spoke to our health correspondent laura foster who explained the figures. 11,359 people died in

the week of last week and that is up by 38% in the space of a week and is roughly double what it was the previous two weeks and quadruple what it was a month ago. if we look at this chart, we can see the total number of people who have sadly died because of this virus and the figure from the ons of this virus and the figure from the 0ns is of this virus and the figure from the ons is 58,164, but of this virus and the figure from the 0ns is 58,164, but there are other ways of calculating coronavirus deaths. what does this mean? i'll be back where we were in the spring? this chart can help —— i'll be back. everything red is a death caused by coronavirus, if you look to the far right, where it says october, that little bit of red is not nearly as high as during the peak of the pandemic, the week of the 17th of april, where we experienced 9,495 deaths in a week, but the numbers are going up. this is the third consecutive week we have seen an increase in people dying with covid—19, which is what is concerning

the government right now. news from wales. 1148 cases of covid—19 diagnosed in wales and that brings the total number of confirmed cases in the country to 37,400. public health wales just issuing these figures. ten further deaths have been reported with the total number of deaths since the beginning of the pandemic now standing at 1722. those are the latest figures from wales. news coming from the house of lords. there has been a vote on the controversial brexit legislation and the government has suffered a heavy defeat in the house of lords over the legislation that would enable ministers to break international law. 395 votes against 169, a majority of 226, and the amendment described as a

regret amendment, condemning the internal market bill, and largely symbolic at this stage but underlining the difficulty is the government is having following its admission that it intended to break international law with the provisions of their bill. we will bring you more on that and reaction to that throughout the afternoon. the irish government is re—imposing some of the toughest coronavirus restrictions in europe. for six weeks from midnight tomorrow all non—essential shops will close — and people will have to stay close to home. the irish prime minister said that if everyone pulled together, the country would be able to celebrate christmas "in a meaningful way". from dublin, emma vardy reports. ireland readies itself for another stretch, looking down the freedoms of everyday life. the tipping point came after a dramatic increase in infections over the past fortnight. this time, schools will remain open, but once again all nonessential

shops will close and households will be forbidden to mix. lockdown is all well and good, but, unfortunately, it's the health service is the issue. cos they can lockdown everything now to try and suppress the numbers, but if the numbers keep growing, unfortunately, they haven't invested enough in the health service. do you think it's the right decision? yeah. why's that? i had treatment for cancer earlier this year. i'm a diabetic with respiratory problems, so the less people that are out and about, the better. and i'm going home now. well, this is one of dublin's busiest shopping streets, which will soon become empty. meanwhile, the irish government is considering a number of measures to help enforce its second period of lockdown restrictions, such as fines for anyone who breaks the rule of exercising beyond the limit of five kilometres from their home. last night, there was a grave address live on irish television from ireland's prime minister, the taoiseach, micheal martin. the government has decided

that the evidence of a potentially grave situation arising in the weeks ahead is now too strong. therefore, for a period of six weeks from midnight on wednesday night, the entire country will move to level five of the framework for living with covid—19. business groups have been told the lockdown measures may last even longer for pubs and restaurants. unless the outlook improves, many believe they could have to remain closed to serving customers indoors even over christmas. emma vardy, bbc news, dublin. the headlines on bbc news... the noon deadline to agree a financial package for tier 3 restrictions in manchester passes. the prime minister will hold a news conference later. the number of weekly registered deaths involving coronavirus across england and wales rises by a third — in just seven days. some passengers flying from heathrow will be the first to have the option of paying for a 20—minute covid test before checking in.

heathrow has become the first uk airport to offer coronavirus tests to passengers. people flying to hong kong will have the option of paying £80 for a rapid test — giving a result in around 20 minutes. some countries are demanding proof of a negative result before they allow people in. 0ur transport correspondent tom burridge reports. covid tests at a uk airport. initially, it's for staff at heathrow and passengers heading to hong kong. it was thought italy would accept the type of test being used here too, but negotiations with the italian authorities are still ongoing. for lynne, who travels to italy a lot, a test in the airport before she travels is a much better option. i don't really want to wait until i get to italy and then have a test in an italian airport and then maybe something might not be right, and whether i have to go back on a plane,

go into a hospital, whatever it might be, i need that reassurance for me and my family to know that i am 0k. more people heading out of heathrow face restrictions when they get to their destination, because more countries classify the uk as a risk. the facility here is privately funded so it has no impact on nhs testing capacity. you'll come to this facility before you check in. hopefully you will have booked your test online and paid your £80. the type of test they are using here means that the sample you give can be analysed on location. a result is guaranteed within an hour. the methodology is different to the pcr test, which is widely used in the nhs. these tests are incredibly accurate, the test we are using here has been developed by the university of oxford. they work very similar to the pcr test that you've talked about where they take out the viral

matter, and they are very quick which means that, actually, it's a small inconvenience coming to the airportjust an hour before and then moving on yourjourney as you would have done normally. the testing now available at heathrow is only for people departing the uk. it will have no impact on the two week travel quarantine for those arriving. but aviation bosses say it's an important first step. we're going to be living with covid for perhaps many years to come. we need to find a way in which the economy can thrive, but we can keep people safe. and testing is the answer to doing that. this is really crucial for me. destiny, a model, needs a test. without these papers, i can't get into tokyo at this point. so at this moment i'm just waiting to get into the test centre. but it was unclear whether the type of test at heathrow would get him into japan. it's why airlines want a common international standard to make it safe and simple to travel. tom burridge, bbc news, at heathrow.

regarding manchester, we are hearing from the secretary of state for housing, robertjenrick, he says he is disappointed despite recognising the gravity of the situation, andy burnham has been unwilling to take action that is required to get the spread of the virus under control in greater manchester and reach an agreement with the government, and he has therefore advised to government that the discussions have concluded without an agreement. as far as he is concerned the talks are over and the next move will come from borisjohnson who is giving a news c0 nfe re nce from borisjohnson who is giving a news conference at five o'clock but that has upped the ante. there were hopes that the discussions would continue between borisjohnson and andy burnham and they had a conversation with each other over lunch and then there were suggestions there was a conversation after that, as well. this is looking bleaker and after that, as well. this is looking blea ker and blea ker. we after that, as well. this is looking bleaker and bleaker. we can go to westminster. we are getting to

a very difficult and rather dangerous moment. it looks as though the restrictions in greater manchester will be imposed without agreement. the government setting out what the restrictions would be and clearly one of the things the government was concerned about is that without agreement, which you get proper compliance and enforcement which is essential? —— would you get. as i said a short while ago, a lot of the disagreements seem to be about the margins of the financial package because what the leaders in manchester are arguing for was effectively a level of business support that would be proportionate to greater manchester's economy rather than on a per head of the population basis. the government is offering about £60 million in business support which would be in population terms very similar to the sums that have gone to the other tier 3 areas, lancashire and

the city of liverpool, the liverpool city region, offered about £30 million, and greater manchester wa nted million, and greater manchester wanted 75 million because they argued they had a bigger economy but it looks as though that has been a sticking point and the government has been unwilling to move because robertjenrick as you have reported has suggested that effectively the talks are over and he is recommending that to the prime minister. what is going to happen now in greater manchester, the prime minister will be making his statement at five o'clock, a press conference, and he will announce that all pubs and bars unless they are serving substantial meals will close in greater manchester and betting shops, casinos, adult gaming centres, soft play areas, bingo halls, they will also close, but not gymnasiums. there was an acceptance some restrictions would be necessary by greater manchester council leaders but they wanted a package of economic support to help low—paid

workers who were laid off but they also questioned what seems to be one of the non—negotiable parts of the tier 3 restrictions, the blanket closure of pubs and bars, and they we re closure of pubs and bars, and they were arguing whether there was any scientific evidence for that, but it looks as if this has come down to an argument over a few million pounds. andy burnham will argue it is about a lot more than that but in the end it looks as though, when i spoke to greater manchester sources in the last half an hour, they thought they we re last half an hour, they thought they were edging closer to light at the end of the tunnel, that the government was making an offer which was slightly better than they would do on was slightly better than they would doona was slightly better than they would do on a per capita basis but it looks like they are not prepared to go as faras looks like they are not prepared to go as far as greater manchester's council leaders wanted and this will mean the first area of england to have these restrictions imposed without buy in from local government

leaders who might well be on the front of enforcement. the stakes for the prime minister are especially high because the overall narrative that this suggests is one of a disunited kingdom, you have a northern ireland doing one thing, scotla nd northern ireland doing one thing, scotland doing its own thing, and wales doing its own thing, and i westminster unable to sort england out without having to impose restrictions —— and now westminster. it sends out a difficult message. pa rt it sends out a difficult message. part of the narrative coming out in the last few days from andy burnham and others is that effectively if you are going to put an area into tier 3 restrictions which means people in relatively lowjobs being out of work for at least a month, although it is reviewed every month, but for at least a month, then effectively the government was failing to deliver on its levelling up failing to deliver on its levelling up strategy as it calls it, trying to spread wealth and opportunity out

of the south—east of england into the north of england, and many of those seats which the conservatives won in the december election, of course, so there is a political side to this, not just course, so there is a political side to this, notjust an argument over money. it is a high—risk strategy on both sides. does it look like andy burnham was holding out and putting the health of people at risk or does borisjohnson look the health of people at risk or does boris johnson look as the health of people at risk or does borisjohnson look as though he is not listening to people in the north—west of england and is imposing things from westminster which local leaders do not have the confidence in to get the infection rates down? we will have to see how this plays out politically but certainly this is very highly charged and potentially politically toxic for both sides. for now, thanks forjoining us. we are going to return to the story about heathrow, which will be offering a coronavirus test for passengers, for those heading to

hong kong. our business presenter, ben thompson has more details. the aviation industry will be watching this but this does not go far enough for most of them? no, you are right. what heathrow airport is hoping is that this test will be the first of many on many different routes, and this is only for flights from heathrow to hong kong, and passengers will pay £80 to have a test before they leave. we know how complex it is right now to travel overseas and some places have travel corridors and some mean that you need to quarantine when you get back in some places to quarantine when you arrive, and some countries may ask you to show a negative test before you set off, so the idea that this could be going some way to simplifying this system, but as you touched on and we heard from our tra nsfer

touched on and we heard from our transfer —— transport correspond in earlier, it doesn't mean that it will have an effect when you come into the country, and you will still have to quarantine for two weeks when you fly into the uk. the government is may be considering halving that time, but it is very complex and there are mixed messages about what you need to do, where you are going, and for many it is much easier to stay at home right now thanit easier to stay at home right now than it is to try and navigate a complex system. but if you are a business traveller maybe it is not so easy, and it is expected that business travellers will be amongst the first to benefit from this scheme. and also businesses who will stump up the cost of £80 for that test. we can speak to a chief executive now, of the business travel association. what do you make of these tests? they are very limited and they only apply to flights to hong kong but one would assume that the airport is hoping that many other destinations can be added to the list? good afternoon.

we welcome the news, albeit that it isjust we welcome the news, albeit that it is just scratching we welcome the news, albeit that it isjust scratching the we welcome the news, albeit that it is just scratching the surface, we welcome the news, albeit that it isjust scratching the surface, and the business travel industry has been asking for this for many months, four on departure testing, so months, four on departure testing, so it is great that heathrow have launched this for hong kong, but what is disappointing is that this is not led by the government, and instead we get a task force to look into what the possibilities are bad for business travel, still not taking away the quarantine on the inbound will not solve too many of theissues inbound will not solve too many of the issues right now —— what the possibilities are but for business travel. france has got a system of sorts in place and germany has a system and iceland and russia have a system, why has it taken so long to getjust to this stage? very good question. as an industry, the aviation and business travel industry, we have come up with suggestions and plans, talking to the government and engaging with

them, and it is disappointing it has taken this long and the damage that has been done, not only to the travel industry, but to the uk economy, by not being able to travel and do business around the globe, and do business around the globe, and frankly we need now to get moving. we welcome this and what we needis moving. we welcome this and what we need is data to start showing the government that we can travel safely because public health is critically important but most importantly as well that the economy is moving and that those jobs are saved. we have to start somewhere and this is a good start and we will ask the government to consider this and not just have one opinion around one test before you go and then another test before you go and then another test in five days because that still is an issue for our customers. we ask them to look at these on departure tests and try to have this in place for more destinations. let's talk about the contribution business travel has to the wider economy, you touched on it, getting business people around the world.

some suggesting levels of business travel won't get back to anywhere like they were until 2021, 22 are 23 even. we know business class seats on planes are a huge contributor to the overall profits of those airlines and without those passengers, they really will struggle. yes, it is fair to say we know business travel is going to ta ke know business travel is going to take a while to come back. it's important to note business travel isn'tjust a important to note business travel isn't just a round important to note business travel isn'tjust a round business people travelling to do meetings, it's a humanitarian aid, construction, oil and marine workers, so there are a numberof and marine workers, so there are a number of reasons people travel and they have to get back to travelling. we have so many issues with britain going to be global britain again, where we have to get out and sign deals, business travel effectively underwrites all that. it offers a normal year £220 billion, it drives the gdp, it's a critical enabler to the gdp, it's a critical enabler to the economy. that is why it is so important that our members working with the airlines get access to testing and get those business

travellers moving again because it is notjust for the strength of travellers moving again because it is not just for the strength of the business but the strength of all the uk plc, effectively. yes, really interesting. clive, good to see you. the chief executive of the business travel association. simon, you heard it there, the contribution that business travel makes to the economy clearly very im porta nt business travel makes to the economy clearly very important but one would also hope that if this test is successful, this trial on these flights to hong kong from heathrow, it can be rolled out elsewhere. the crucial thing in all of this is that testis crucial thing in all of this is that test is done on site, so it can be done very quickly, taking maybe half an hour after having that test, so you can do it before check in and thatis you can do it before check in and that is a huge departure from the pcr test we are more used to, which needs to be sent off to a lab to get tested. this is called a lamp test done done in 30 minutes to an hour soa done done in 30 minutes to an hour so a huge difference and one they hope will roll out to many other airlines, many other routes and

passengers. thank you very much for that. turning into quite a day. let's remind you of what is going on. the impasse over the situation in manchester has not been resolved. we are hearing from the housing secretary robertjenrick, are hearing from the housing secretary robert jenrick, who are hearing from the housing secretary robertjenrick, who says he is disappointed that despite recognising the gravity of the situation, the mayor, andy burnham, has been unwilling to take the action required to get the spread of the virus under control in greater manchester and reach an agreement with the government. he says, i have therefore advise the prime minister these discussions had concluded without an agreement. 0ur understanding is that he had three restrictions, the highest level, will now be imposed. that will mean all pubs and bars, unless they are serving substantial meals and betting shops, casinos, soft play areas will be closed for a month. talking to chris mason, he says we don't yet know when the period will

get under way. what we do know is the prime minister is addressing the news media at 5pm, a briefing from downing street, where no doubt, that will be the number one item on the agenda. so the continuing impasse in manchester has just ta ken agenda. so the continuing impasse in manchester has just taken a step for the worse and robertjenrick saying that the discussions have concluded without agreement. there is also a state at 7pm tonight from the health secretary but let's get through 5pm first. full coverage here on bbc news channel and bbc one. let's change the gear a bit and get the sport. here's katherine downes. coronavirus affecting the world of sport as well,

simon. wasps wait to find out if they can play in this weekend's premiership rugby final. all the players have been tested for coronavirus again this morning, after 7 of the squad previously tested positive. 0ur rugby union correspondent is chrisjones. the wasps testing has taken place this morning on these results take 24 hours to come through so it is only tomorrow, probably in the early hours that we will find out if there isa hours that we will find out if there is a virus has spread even further through the wasps squad and whether they can play in this premiership final on saturday. i imagine there area final on saturday. i imagine there are a lot of nervous figures at wasps and bristol, they don't know if they will be involved, they are on red alert and stand by at the moment. i think premiership rugby is, there will be a lot of people desperate for this game to go ahead as planned, just so the league and the tournament and the competition can retaina the tournament and the competition can retain a semblance of integrity because it would be a very odd look of bristol, having been well beaten by wasps, where ending up playing in the premiership final. some people have suggested if wasps cannot take part, just give the title to exeter because they have earned

it, getting bristol and there would be great strange. do you think they would be any support for that?” strange. do you think they would be any support for that? i think it's too late in the day to do that now. i think too late in the day to do that now. ithink in too late in the day to do that now. i think in an ideal world, that may be most preferable, given exeter have been the standout team and bristol took that beating by wasps in the semifinals of look, it's just a very unusual sub—ideal look, to have a beaten semifinalist given a reprieve. that is not how these things should work. the flip side as this was written down in the regulations back in august, apparently, all the club signed up for it. what is keeping professional by for it. what is keeping professional rug by afloat for it. what is keeping professional rugby afloat at the moment is television money and the fact is, these satellite broadcasters can still have their big day on saturday, whoever is involved. people will be watching at home, there will be no fans there, so a lot goes into this. when you have bristol themselves, players and coaches saying in an ideal world it will be wasps and exeter as planned, then you know where the sentiment is

and where the lie of the land is and most people are behind the fact that it would be much betterfor the integrity of the competition if wasps do get the all clear to play and do have their shot at exeter. i think even bristol fans might feel it is best if that is how it ends up but we are all in the hands of the testing, the results and we will see when wednesday comes. the champions league is back. manchester united and chelsea play in the group stages tonight. united are away to paris saint—germain — scene of one of their best european wins in recent years. an injury—time penalty from marcus rashford completed a miraculous comeback to sent them through to the quarter finals in 2019. but boss 0le gunner solskjaer says that win won't influence tonight's game. we're a different team, they are a different team, and it's a different stage of the competition. of course, also without fans it's going to be a different game, because i saw last game when we got

the first goal early on, that impacted the crowd. it's a whole completely new situation. england's cricketers will be allowed to withdraw from tours if their mental health is affected by living and playing in bio—secure bubbles. that's according to the limited overs captain eoin morgan. england's games were played in bubbles this summer, and are expected to be needed for the tours to south africa, sri lanka and india next year. morgan says mental health is a priority, and he expects players to pull out of future tours because of the added pressures. a fourth rider has tested positive for coronavirus at the giro d'italia. it's the second time this year that fernando gaviria of uae team emirates has tested positive — this is him at the world championships a few years ago. gaviria's team say he was "immediately isolated" following the result and is "completely asymptomatic". that's all the sport for now. hope that gave you a bit

of a breather, simon. yes, but we are back. thank you very much, see you later run. you are watching bbc news. scientists in london plan to infect a group of healthy volunteers with coronavirus to help the search for a vaccine. experts at imperial college say it'll be the first such study anywhere in the world. dozens of young people would take part in the groundbreaking human challenge trial, which could get underway early in the new year. our health correspondent richard galpin reports. in these bleak times of high infection rates, lockdowns and other restrictive measures, genuinely positive developments are rare. but today, a glimmer of hope. the announcement trials are due to start in this country injanuary, in which volunteers are deliberately infected with the virus, will be a key step forward. they'll be the first in the world and it should speed up development of covid vaccines, which are so vital for finally bringing our lives back to normal.

we need to have ways of comparing vaccines head—to—head, seeing what they do in terms of triggering the immune system, see what they do in terms of defence against the infection, and it's really only with studies of this sort that you can do that very quickly in the sort of agile and rapid manner. the trials would involve 90 healthy volunteers, aged from 18 to 30, being infected. the scientists first tried to discover the smallest amount of virus that leads to a person becoming infected. then, how vaccines work in the body to stop or prevent covid—19. safety‘s crucial, but some people are already preparing to volunteer. it's not something that i really want to do, i wish we had no pandemic and no challenge trials, but we have a pandemic, so we can't ignore the situation we're in. and to me, i would regret it if i didn't do all i can to take this small risk on, because of the extraordinary

benefits it could potentially bring to other people. this kind of study, known as a challenge trial, provides faster results because it only requires, at most, a few hundred volunteers, rather than the thousands of people usually brought in to take part in these studies. and these results should help researchers establish which of the many vaccines being developed around the world are most likely to succeed. china is making significant progress. today, officials saying they may be able to make over1 billion coronavirus vaccine doses next year. richard galpin, bbc news. reiterating the breaking news, the government has failed to reach an agreement with leaders in greater manchester over tier 3 restrictions. robertjenrick says he is the means —— that means the talks are over. iain watsonjoins us

—— that means the talks are over. iain watson joins us now from westminster. so? so we are back again to update you with more vigour is. ican again to update you with more vigour is. i can give you more of what was going on behind the scenes in these negotiations this afternoon, which had failed to reach a deal in greater manchester. the first area in england have restrictions imposed on them by central government without a local deal. the first thing to say is i don't think these restrictions will imposed imminently, there will be some time for them to adjust locally to the new restrictions and we will hear more from the prime minister at 5pm this afternoon. in terms of the negotiations and why they have failed, what i was told it is initially the government offered greater manchester £55 million in what is called business support, a business support package, which could be helpful for business support package, which could be helpfulfor people business support package, which could be helpful for people on lower incomes who are laid off from work. they've given something similar to liverpool and lancashire, already in tier 3 restrictions, £30 million went to each of those local

authorities. the government accepted the £55 million figure wasn't entirely proportionate with the population in greater manchester so they upped their offer to 60 million but they stayed out the offer was rejected by greater manchester and by the leader of the local councils in greater manchester. andy burnham, the greater manchester mayor and borisjohnson had the greater manchester mayor and boris johnson had a the greater manchester mayor and borisjohnson had a telephone call and at that call, although initially the councils agreed they were arguing for £75 million in extra support, the figure of £65 million was put forward by greater manchester but the government wouldn't budge. so there is a £5 million gap in the end on what greater manchester would have accepted and what the government was prepared to give. for that reason, it would appear the talks have broken down and the government is now moving to imposition. 0ne broken down and the government is now moving to imposition. one of the reasons i should say they are so sensitive to moving further up the scale in terms of

business support is that active talks with others including yorkshire, they fell if it looked as though greater manchester was made a special case then other areas may ask for more themselves or it would be seen they were being unfairto it would be seen they were being unfair to those areas, lancashire and the city of liverpool and the surrounding region, it would be unfairto surrounding region, it would be unfair to them because they had cooperated where manchester had locked them into nine days of protracted negotiations. for that reason, they made £60 million at the ceiling, it wasn't enough so now restrictions will be imposed and we will have to see what effect that will have to see what effect that will have to see what effect that will have on compliance in the greater manchester area, an area covering almost 3 million people. that is the point, the argument in manchester, it's all very well talking about liverpool but we are a different case, a larger economy in terms of the people employed here. that is why we deserve more and that is where the real anger is from, isn't it? not what westminster is imposing but not treating the region

is fairly? that is right. i guess it depends which prism you see it through. from greater manchester's point of view, they said getting money roughly in line with the size of their population wasn't good enough because the economy is bigger, they have more businesses but the other argument they were making is they have been in restrictions longer than some other areas in england, they so—called what became tiered to restrictions, but households were not allowed to mix indoors that had an effect on hospitality venues in particular and lower footfall, already business hospitality venues in particular and lowerfootfall, already business is beginning to suffer. for that reason, they felt the financial package available to them should be larger. what we were get into again is also not just larger. what we were get into again is also notjust potentially this north—south divide which is potentially toxic, but also local leaders argue about disparities in the way the restrictions are being imposed. for example, we know when the government imposes these restrictions in greater manchester, the gyms will stay

open. the gyms are closed in merseyside and that has caused resentment. equally, if you are in liverpool and you think greater manchester is getting a better deal, had the government gone up better deal, had the government gone up to 65 million, you may have thought the price of your cooperation was to be sold short by the government. equally, if you are in greater manchester, you say we have more businesses, why shouldn't we get more business about? all this plays to their political choice borisjohnson is plays to their political choice boris johnson is made, plays to their political choice borisjohnson is made, which is trying to get regional lockdowns imposed rather than a national circuit breaker, as they are doing in wales and tighter restrictions in scotla nd in wales and tighter restrictions in scotland and northern ireland. going into that regional approach means you have to negotiate bit by bit and sometimes it can be protracted and sometimes it can be protracted and sometimes it can lead to charges of unfairness. can i throw something to you on the hoof? we both know you leave the sea and you're called straight back in. jessica parker, our colleague who sits feet away

from you. bring her in! wright she hears lord frost and michel barnier are ina hears lord frost and michel barnier are in a phone call right now are michel barnier has tweeted saying the message, we should be making the most out of the little time left, our door remains open. i mean brinkmanship is the word of the day but in terms of brexit, this is a whole new thing, isn't it? how much time realistically can these talks, these briefings, how long can this go on martello it can go on a little bit longer yet. it does seem there is this territory of deal or no deal with greater manchester and with the post—transition period with greater manchester and with the post—tra nsition period on with greater manchester and with the post—transition period on brexit as well. what was interesting yesterday was when michel barnier and lord frost spoke, effectively what michel barnier was saying was he was willing to move, apparently, and have a legal text written down for the basis of the discussions. this is something which number 10 was

getting very frustrated by, that there wasn't something there they could work off and a mentor. so he made a move, michael gove in the house of commons welcome do it and said he looked forward in optimism rather than looking back in anger. then downing street said they haven't gone far enough. this was another attempt to see if there is a basis to resurrect trade talks. in terms of how far can it go? we know evenif terms of how far can it go? we know even if the brexit date, it didn't just go to the wire but the on the wire. the government saying they will come out of transition on december 31, that won't move. what some sources on the other side are saying in brussels is because the uk sta rts saying in brussels is because the uk starts in regulatory alignment, it has the same rules as the rest of the european union, that it's not quite the same as negotiating a trade deal with canada, which took yea rs trade deal with canada, which took years and years. i think there is a preparedness to take this to the wire and go further. what the government wants to say is whether the attitude of the european is such that they recognise the uk to be an independent state and when it comes

to fisheries and independent coastal state rather than some recalcitrant member of the european union, whether that attitude has changed according to that tweet i cannot tell at this stage. but i think, at the moment, the formulation used by michael gove that the door in a jar to further talks, it means it is ajar and hasn't been slammed shut. 0k, just looking at the computer to see if there is anything else i can throw at you. you don't want to talk about the mtv awards and little mix hosting? i've been waiting all day for that! laughter you can do a bit more research and come back to us later. thank you. you are watching bbc news. we will keep an eye on the situation but don't forget, a news conference from downing street with the prime minister at 5pm. a special programme here at 4:30. a charity is warning that many carers are exhausted and desperate for extra help because of the pandemic. nearly two thirds of those who responded to a survey by carers

uk say they're worried about the impact of more restrictions over the winter. the government says it recognises the vital role played by unpaid carers and it's working to support them. 0ur social affairs correspondent alison holt reports. let me just stand up. the start of another long day for elaine kenyon and her partner, ian gore. he has multiple sclerosis and needs constant support. he used to spend five days a week at a day centre, but the pandemic meant that closed. so now elaine provides most of his care on her own. like many of the family carers in today's survey, they're worried about how they'll cope as covid restrictions tighten again. how's your day been, ian? boring! why has it been boring? cos i'm stuck in this house! what do you miss about being at the day centre? all my pals, all my friends. what else do you feel about today? what's today been like? it's not very good for you, is it? why? cos you're doing everything. i can't do anything. come and walk in my

shoes for a week, or a day. just see how it feels. cos it isn't good. you're isolated. you've nobody... you know, i sit and cry some nights, and then i think, "why are you doing this? pick yourself up!" but it's hard to pick yourself up. nearly 6,000 family carers answered online questions from the charity carers uk. 81% say they've had to provide more care since the pandemic, and nearly two thirds say their mental health has deteriorated. a similar number say they haven't had a breakfor six months. my fear is that carers are teetering on the brink right now. their physical and mental well—being is really struggling. and what you have to remember is that if a carer becomes ill, the health and social care system has to look after two people — the person they care for and the carer. so it's really short—term not to support carers at the moment. there are 13.6 million people caring behind closed doors at the moment, and they really need some

recognition and some support. for ian, elaine and others, the hope is that more day centres and support services will find ways to reopen safely to provide them with vital support. alison holt, bbc news. with routines being forced to change and visits from loved ones restricted, the last six months have been a tough time for many care homes across the uk. now, as they've been exploring new ways of staying entertained, residents at one home in west yorkshire have made themselves social media stars. # tumble out of bed and stumble to the kitchen # pour myself a cup of ambition... residents at this care home in 0tley may not work nine to five, but they've found a way of keeping themselves occupied. since the start of the pandemic, they've been engaging in one of this year's most popular trends — tiktok. # i've got to break free

# god knows... # god knows i want to break free... we felt like we needed a little bit of a boost in the home, i was a bit new to tiktok, so i didn't really know what it was about. it's just stemmed from there, really, we started off doing a couple of birthday tiktoks, but now we have tiktok friday, we do them every week, and we all love them. # football's coming home. # it's coming home... the videos were initially used as a way for residents to show their families they were coping during a particularly difficult and isolating year. # wow, you can really dance! little did they know they'd end up going viral on tiktok, with one of their videos receiving more than 250,000 views.

well, it was really fun. i mean, when we're stuck in here and we can't get out, things like that really do cheer us up. do you enjoy the tiktok videos that we make? of course! it occupies me where i wouldn't have anything to do. what do you think about the number of people that viewed? well, it must be wonderful for them, like it's wonderful for me. they've had a lot of views. have they? yeah. was i on one of them? you're on one of them. oh, good. has it cheered you up through lockdown? oh, yes! yeah? oh, that's good. care homes closed their doors to visitors seven months ago, but those at teal beck house have assured their families there's no need to worry about them. # and then a hero comes along # with the strength to carry on # and you cast your fears aside # and you know you can survive... #

we all needed that! now it's time for a look at the weather with stav danaos. hello there. it's northern ireland and scotland that's seen the wettest weather so far this week but as we move through the next few days, its parts of england and wales which could see some of the wetter weather for a time and it will also be very windy, too, with gales in places. but, for many, on the mild side. now through today, we've had low pressure out towards the west. that's brought strong winds around irish sea coasts and clusters of showers which have merged together to produce longer spells of rain across northern ireland and in towards southern scotland. one or two showers elsewhere but also some sunny spells. but as we move into this evening and overnight, that wet and windy weather continues to push northwards and becomes confined to the north of scotland. one or two showers further south, a lot of cloud around generally and we will see some persistent and heavy rain starting to push up from the south into southern england. those temperatures pretty mild overnight, no lower than 10—14 degrees for many of us. now, this area of low pressure,

new area of low, was named storm barbara by the spanish met service and brought very wet and windy weather to portugal and spain. as it moves towards our shores, not going to be quite as severe but it's still going to bring quite a lot of rainfall throughout wednesday across parts of england and wales, particularly in towards the south—east quadrant. we will also see very strong winds for a time in the extreme south—east through the channel there, gusting 50—60 miles an hourfor a time. further north, sunshine, one or two showers. we still hang onto that wet weather across northern scotland. here it will also be very windy, too, as it will be across the south—east for a time. a mild day to come, maybe not quite as mild tomorrow as what we've had through tuesday afternoon. still 15—17 degrees here, low to mid teens celsius further north, north, still quite cool there for the northern isles. that area of low pressure eventually pulls away. still a bit of a hang back as we head into the start of thursday across northern and eastern areas but a ridge of high pressure will continue to build in through the day, so that

will settle things down. where we do start off with a fairly breezy conditions across the north and the ease, outbreaks of rain for the north and east of scotland, perhaps one or two showers in england and wales but increasing amounts of sunshine as we head on into the afternoon and the wind is turning a bit lighter, too. not quite as quite as mild as what we've seen in the last few days, closer to the seasonal average, in fact, the low to mid teens celsius. it doesn't last long, as we head into friday, more low pressure starts to sweep into northern and western areas. it turns wetter in the west and windy, with gales for all into the weekend.

this is bbc news. i'm simon mccoy. the headlines: greater manchester becomes the first region in england to have tier 3 restrictions imposed on them after talks between local leaders and ministers break up without agreement. it means the area will be put into the strictest measures with most household mixing not allowed and many pubs and bars forced to close. the region's mayor, andy burnham, had asked for at least £65 million to support businesses affected but it's understood the government offered £60 million. the number of weekly registered deaths involving coronavirus across england and wales rises by a third — in just seven days. some passengers flying from heathrow will be the first to have the option of paying for a 20—minute covid test before checking in. healthy volunteers in the uk will be infected with coronavirus to help the search for a vaccine —

the first study of its kind in the world. # tumble out of bed... and coming up, the care home residents taking to tiktok to help pass the time during lockdown. good afternoon. talks between the government and local leaders in greater manchester over moving to the highest level of coronavirus restrictions have broken up without agreement. in the last half hour, the communities secretary robertjenrick said he was ‘disappointed that despite recognising the gravity of the situation, the mayor has been unwilling to take the action that is required to get the spread of the virus under control in greater manchester

and reach an agreement with the government. "i have therefore advised the prime minister that these discussions have concluded without an agreement." local leaders, called for around £75 million in financial support from central government. there are reports that the government offered £60 million — but in a conversation with the prime minister, andy burnham suggested that it was not possible to accept a figure lower than 65 million. without agreement all eyes are now on the prime minister borisjohnson who‘s hosting a briefing in downing street later this afternoon. let‘s speak to our political correspondent iain watson. little doubt now what he will be talking about. that is very clear and this is a serious moment because so far, when tier 3 restrictions are imposed it is usually with the agreement of local authority leaders, some of them feel cajoled and pressured into doing so but in the end they reach agreement on a financial package and on certain things which will close in

addition to pubs and bars in the local area, which has happened in the liverpool city region and lancashire but it won‘t be happening in greater manchester because those talks failed to reach agreement. that means the restrictions which the prime minister will announce at five o‘clock in his press conference will have to be imposed over the heads of local government leaders. andy burnham the greater manchester mayor recognises it is the prerogative of the government but it raises questions about compliance and about enforcement. in terms of the restrictions which we understand will be imposed on greater manchester, it will be tier 3 restrictions, most pubs and bars closing an estate sale substantial meals, restrictions on households mixing with each other —— closing u nless mixing with each other —— closing unless they sell substantial meals. casinos, soft play areas, bookmakers, they will all be closed, but not gymnasiums, though, which

are closed in liverpool, but those decisions in the end will be ones for the government to take rather than government and councils agreeing together. the talks stumbled in the end overjust £5 million, and i sayjust, given the historic level of debt caused by the coronavirus crisis, but there are principles behind the cash and basically greater manchester initially wanted 75 million for business support and they were prepared to accept 65 million and the government initially offered 55 million and increased it to 60 million and increased it to 60 million and increased it to 60 million and they were getting closer to each other and then when i spoke to each other and then when i spoke to someone a few hours ago they were hopeful that they might see light at the end of the tunnel but the gap was not bridged, and the government says they believe that would have been a disproportionate amount of money to give the greater manchester relative to money that has gone to liverpool and lancashire where local leaders have been more cooperative and it would also set a precedent

for other areas where the government is gay shedding more restrictions like south yorkshire. greater manchester —— where the government is negotiating more restrictions like south yorkshire. for greater manchester, they say they have more businesses and therefore they needed more business support, and they could not bridge the gap in the end. 5 million gap but a bigger gap in terms of outlook and attitude between the local government leaders and the prime minister. we will hear from the prime minister at five o‘clock and i believe we will hear from andy burnham before that and then matt hancock the health secretary will formally announce the restrictions in the house of commons later this evening. joining me now is the labour mp for denton and reddish in greater manchester andrew gwynne. earlier he asked rishi sunak, "why does the government hate greater manchester?" in the house of commons. we can talk to him now. we are in the most

remarkable position where westminster is now imposing these restrictions on your area. that is the prime minister's prerogative, he leads the government and our country and it would have been nice to have reached a conclusion that both met the public health challenge facing greater manchester but also the very severe economic challenge that is facing greater manchester, because let‘s not forget, this isn‘t a new imposition of lockdown measures on greater manchester. we have had them in place since the 29th ofjuly when the government put us into local lockdown measures, and it has been a long and hard summerfor many businesses and without the additional support, tier 3 is going to decimate many of those businesses that have just about clung on for the last 12 weeks. and with it people will be losing theirjobs at a very uncertain, long

and dark winter. are we right in understanding that it is the difference between 60 and £65 million that has broken these talks? what we are trying to get from the government and this is a collective voice across party, conservative mps, labourmps, voice across party, conservative mps, labour mps, conservative council leader and the nine labour leaders and labour mayor, is a support package that means that those lowest paid people in greater manchester are able to do the right thing because if we are having tier 3 measures placed upon us we need those people who are minimum wage jobs and who are self—employed in things like taxi businesses, to be able to do the right thing, to be able to do the right thing, to be able to do the right thing, to be able to shut down their businesses foran able to shut down their businesses for an indefinite period but still be able to pay their bills. it might sound like a small amount

of money but for those people that are facing a real hard winter and an uncertain winter, that is the difference between them being able to eat or heat their homes or not as sadly is going to be the case, so i think it was a real travesty that the government was not able to meet the greater manchester offer which did come down considerably from 90 million down to 75 million down to 65 million. the hardship that that would have avoided. andy burnham is going to give a news conference at four o‘clock, we understand. have you been involved with these talks alongside him? mps have not been involved in the talks but we have had conversations and meetings with the ministers, as recently as last night, about the health pressures in greater manchester, and about the economic challenges in greater

manchester and it is fair to say that the members of parliament that represent this conurbation and there are 27 of us, 18 from the labour party and nine from the conservative party, they are all speaking with one voice. we are very sceptical that tier 3 measures will work and we have been in local lockdown since the 29th ofjuly and we have seen our coronavirus rates escalate massively in that period of time, but we are absolutely certain that the hardship that the additional measures will bring needs to be alleviated by central government support and it is very disappointing that we have not been able to reach that we have not been able to reach that compromise. our political editor has just put this on twitter. it says andy burnham was too proud to make a deal. that does not

ring true to me. i have known and worked with andy burnham for many years now and actually what we are talking about is people‘s lives and livelihoods, and we are not starting from .0. we have been in local lockdown measures now for 12 weeks across the whole conurbation and we do need to have a public health response for the coronavirus crisis in greater manchester and we are not convinced that tier 3 actually meet that challenge but if we are going to go into tier 3 we also need to have the economic measures in place, that means there is light at the end of the tunnel, because we could be in tier3 of the tunnel, because we could be in tier 3 three months, six months, who knows? that uncertainty is worrying a lot of people and what we are asking for is to support the lowest pa id are asking for is to support the lowest paid people across our city region, that is not asking for too much from government. you sound very reasonable. earlier when you were

addressing the chancellor you were very angry, clearly. you asked him why people in government hated manchester. are you regretting saying that? i don't regret it because what we have seen over the past few weeks is this a stand—off that was so unnecessary because the starting point was the greater manchester authorities put forward a very sensible package to the government, notjust asking for money for business support, but actually offering to take charge of local test and trace and to have a very localised mechanism to be able to control the coronavirus at a hyper local level where public health officials would be able to go door—to—door in the hotspot areas and be able to try and control and restrict the coronavirus throughout across the region and that was rebuffed by the government for this tiered system that we know does

not work. we are in tier 2 measures now and we have been in them for the last 12 weeks and to give you an example, the two boroughs of greater manchester that my constituency travels, tameside and stockport on the 29th ofjuly when we were put into local lockdown measures, we we re into local lockdown measures, we were at 28 and 26 cases per 100,000 respectively, they are now at 331 and 270 cases per 100,000 respectively. tier 2 measures have not worked. just closing down some of the bars and pubs that don‘t sell food is probably not going to make an ounce of difference to the coronavirus spread across greater manchester. given that is your view and it is a view that i‘ve heard from many people in your area, do you accept that we are in a real mess when you now have a government thatis mess when you now have a government that is going to impose restrictions on an area of england where

local leaders clearly disagree, as you are now, so what are people going to think and how are they going to react and how ugly please going to be able to handle a situation people —— how are the police going to be able to handle a situation where they might see people say, our local leaders don‘t agree with this? a horrible spiral could come from this? i don't agree, because we have been under a local lockdown measure for 12 weeks now and by and large people have respect of the measures, irrespective of what they think of them, they have played by the rules and the police have enforced the rules and the local authorities have tackled issues within the rules and the law and the same will happen tonight and tomorrow and in the weeks and months ahead, irrespective of our own personal views and opinions, but that doesn‘t mean to say that we can‘t challenge the government where we think they have

got measures run. actually, on this, if they are going to put us into tier 3 if they are going to put us into tier3 —— if they are going to put us into tier 3 —— measures wrong. we do not think tier 3 is the answer for greater manchester, but if they do, the least they could do is support our ha rd—pressed workers the least they could do is support our hard—pressed workers especially the low paid and businesses who have been struggling over the last 12 weeks, the last three months of lockdown measures, because this will be for many of them the final nail in the coffin. andrew, thanks for joining us. david collins is northern correspondent for the sunday times. given what we have heard, the issues of health and the economy and about politics, what is going on here, what is the biggest of those three at play here? on the politics side of things, i‘ve heard this characterised as manchester

and london, manchester is a labour dominated stronghold, holding out against the tory government, but i think this goes much deeper than that. something which has been brewing for a long time, notjust in manchester but in the north, and it is the feeling that there is a power centre in london and the south—east where whitehall gets to dictate to the big northern cities and they get to come up with the policy and they get to tell us essentially what to do, and there is very little input from local leaders in manchester. not as much as they would like to have, certainly. there is a huge issue here of the north being angry ata issue here of the north being angry at a very centralised and a very whitehall driven government.

yet the argument seems to be from manchester that they want to have the same as liverpool. well, manchester has been arguing actually for more money than what liverpool and lancashire have had, the last i heard they wanted 65 million and the government were offering 60 million and they could not come to an agreement. the interesting thing about the local conversations, is that local leaders are giving their input and they want to give their input, and they don‘t think that the liverpool issues are the same as that of manchester and thatis the same as that of manchester and that is quite right, there are bespoke issues in each area. manchester as an issue with a student population in one area but in the east of manchester, the older population in tameside, that is where covid is being transmitted more, so there is a feeling that you

can‘t have blanket policies. local leaders want the input and are they being heard? they clearly are being heard. here is a tweet from our political correspondent, saying other local leaders were constructive and reasonable but andy burnham was too proud to make a deal. i wonder what his reaction will be. if that is an anonymous government sources saying that, you know, i don‘t agree, and that is not what i understand from speaking to people behind the scenes, and my understanding is the ten leaders of greater manchester were united and they did not want the tier 3 to come into manchester and they thought it would hurt the economy here. they

didn‘t think it would be effective and they have spoken as one voice. tory mps like graham brady have agreed with andy burnham, so this is not the andy burnham show, manchester, and people outside of manchester, and people outside of manchester don‘t quite realise that. richard lees is a very powerful leader as the labour leader of the council and he would never agree to anything just because he wanted to go along with andy burnham, and that is not what i have seen at all and i don‘t think andy burnham is too proud. i think they pushed hard for a deal that manchester wanted to come to but they didn‘t get it and now there‘s a blame game going on and in the end it is people‘s lives which is going to suffer in manchester. at the heart of this, and wejust manchester. at the heart of this, and we just heard from andrew nguyen, he said the residents have

followed the rules for 12 weeks and i have had enough of it, basically —— gwynne. but if that was entirely true we would not be seeing the rises in coronavirus cases there, so there‘s a disconnect somewhere? rises in coronavirus cases there, so there's a disconnect somewhere?” don‘t agree quite with what the mp said, and there are a lot of people who have followed the rules but also a lot who don‘t, and partly that is because people are confused by the rules in greater manchester. ten weeks of something that looks similarto weeks of something that looks similar to tier 2 weeks of something that looks similarto tier2and weeks of something that looks similar to tier 2 and the national guidelines and the system that has come in which is supposedly going to simplify it, and that system is now hugely undermined in manchester. the average person in manchester will look at the tier 3 restrictions and think to themselves, our leaders don‘t agree with them and they don‘t think they will actually work, our own leaders doubt that they will bring the covid cases

down, so why should i listen to them? that is the risk with an agreement not being reached. the government could have done more, and i think if it is a matter of £5 million, they have taken ten days to thrash this out and they have still not reached an agreement. i was talking to people inside gmc eight yesterday and there we re inside gmc eight yesterday and there were no calls on saturday between the government and gmca, and it is baffling how the government, in my view, has been behaving, and this is pa rt view, has been behaving, and this is part of the frustration in manchester, i think. part of the frustration in manchester, ithink. it part of the frustration in manchester, i think. it is about a co re manchester, i think. it is about a core group of people, a centralised system of government, that is not involving key players at the right times in the

northern cities. david, from the sunday times, thanks for joining us. we are getting reaction from keir starmer, the labour leader. he says the collapse of these talks is a sign of government failure and the conservatives have been treating local communities especially in the midlands and the north and their leaders with contempt, and labour recognises the need for strict public health restrictions but it must be accompanied by extra financial support. labour will continue to support. labour will continue to support andy burnham in the fight forjobs, lives and livelihoods, keir starmer says. so a ratcheting up keir starmer says. so a ratcheting up of the political row that has been growing over this decision in the manchester area. let‘s get some business reaction. john hamilton, the vice chair of the manchester pub and club network. he also runs bar pop on canal street in the city centre. good afternoon. we

keep hearing the phrase that this will hurt the economy, and it will hurt people and it will hurt people like you, tell me how. it already has done. we have had this a week, ten days of the negotiations and nothing has come out of it, and are we in tier 3 or tier 2? we have been in tier 2 for a while under these restrictions and this has damaged our economy amazingly. the bar industry is suffering badly at the moment and there‘s nobody in the city centre coming to visit our industry, our bars. i‘ve been talking so much today, i‘m so upset. bars. i‘ve been talking so much today, i'm so upset. you are upset because presumably you are having to talk to people you employ and with this news, what are you saying to them? i got 60 members of staff and we don‘t know where we stand and we

haven‘t designed a rotor and they don‘t know where they are working on what shifts they are working and whether they are on furlough and where they will be next week and whether they can pay the rent. we don‘t know. if we go into tier 3, what is the impact going to be on the city centre of manchester and venues the city centre of manchester and venues like mine? they are asking for people not to travel so therefore the city centre will be like a deserted island. there is no follow—through. there is no support. i understand andy burnham and the greater manchester council has been fighting for business packages but even the likes of 75 million is not enough for greater manchester to support our businesses and staff. we need help. we are independent businesses and sadly, slowly, we are fading away one by one. the whole country is going through this pandemic, and you now have boris johnson saying the figures in manchester mean that we are going to have to take action because more

and more people are contracting the virus, and the government has to do something. andy burnham says if you are going to do that, we need more money. do you have to decide between the two whether you listen to local government or national government? what goes to my head is that the national government did not listen to us in the first place. we opened up to us in the first place. we opened up on the 4th ofjuly and we did our restrictions and there was no increase, and we went through the summer, still no increase, and what we said, do not bring the students back, keep them at home, let them educate at home, and what where the increases in manchester, nottingham, liverpool, newcastle? all to do with students. we were proven right. now it has been a snowball effect. tier 3, i'm it has been a snowball effect. tier 3, i‘m sure you have had a look at the restrictions and that is clearly

coming, what will that mean to you in the immediate future? that means closure, we will give it a go, we are able to serve food but sadly we can only serve food if there is enough people coming through our doors. judging by our take last night, that is very doubtful, very very doubtful. 0n canal street we have ten bars and there is currently only three bars open. therejust isn‘t the people here to support the industry and to support our bars and i don‘t know how we can stay alive during tier 3, therejust isn‘t i don‘t know how we can stay alive during tier 3, there just isn‘t the money coming through the door to pay for everything. i know money to keep us going when we are shut. —— and no money. you will have staff and some will have families and mortgages, for example, how are people coping? in our industry, it is a young hospitality scene, and for a lot of them they are panicking about rent

and bills, and theyjust don‘t know. they are saying, what are we going to do with 60%? i had a meeting with them three weeks ago and i said, this is what might happen, you need to start putting money to one side because things are not looking good. we might be able to put you on furlough, but if not you might lose your job, furlough, but if not you might lose yourjob, let‘s be honest, and i got some help and information from some groups in the city centre, to give them advice on universal credit. it seems strange that i‘m helping my staff to do universal credit and what options are open for them, ian employer, i‘m not there to tell them where they can get extra money from. did you ever think you would face this kind of decision? absolutely not. i‘ve been running this successful business, for seven yea rs, nearly £2 successful business, for seven years, nearly £2 million a year turnover, but i‘m decimated and we have nothing, we‘ve gone from £35,000 a week down to

11,000 this week just £35,000 a week down to 11,000 this weekjust gone. we are £37,000 short this month to pay the bills. we can‘t do it for much longer. this month to pay the bills. we can't do it for much longer. what you want to to borisjohnson? support us, look at the core economy, we have got all our other traders, meat producers and drink deliveries, and all these other economies which are underneath us, if you knock out this industry will be like a domino effect, one by one, we will all go, and it will be nonstop. john, nothing i can say to you apart from good luck. thanks for joining us. that is the economy side of this. scientists in london plan to infect a group of healthy volunteers with coronavirus to help the search for a vaccine.

experts at imperial college say it‘ll be the first such study anywhere in the world. dozens of young people would take part in the groundbreaking human challenge trial — which could get underway early in the new year. our health correspondent richard galpin reports. in these bleak times of high infection rates, lockdowns and other restrictive measures, genuinely positive developments are rare. but today, a glimmer of hope. the announcement trials are due to start in this country injanuary, in which volunteers are deliberately infected with the virus, will be a key step forward. they‘ll be the first in the world and it should speed up development of covid vaccines, which are so vital for finally bringing our lives back to normal. we need to have ways of comparing vaccines head—to—head, seeing what they do in terms of triggering the immune system, see what they do in terms of defence against the infection, and it‘s really only with studies of this sort that you can do that very quickly in the sort of agile

and rapid manner. the trials would involve 90 healthy volunteers, aged from 18 to 30, being infected. the scientists first tried to discover the smallest amount of virus that leads to a person becoming infected. then, how vaccines work in the body to stop or prevent covid—19. safety‘s crucial, but some people are already preparing to volunteer. it‘s not something that i really want to do, i wish we had no pandemic and no challenge trials, but we have a pandemic, so we can‘t ignore the situation we‘re in. and to me, i would regret it if i didn‘t do all i can to take this small risk on, because of the extraordinary benefits it could potentially bring to other people. this kind of study, known as a challenge trial, provides faster results because it only requires, at most, a few hundred volunteers, rather than the thousands of

people usually brought in to take part in these studies. and these results should help researchers establish which of the many vaccines being developed around the world are most likely to succeed. china is making significant progress. today, officials saying they may be able to make over1 billion coronavirus vaccine doses next year. richard galpin, bbc news. let‘s get more on this with the clinical director of infection at the royal free hospital in london, sir michaeljacobs. good afternoon to you. good afternoon. i'm not sure i'd want to ta ke afternoon. i'm not sure i'd want to take part in a trial like this, youngsters taking part, if it was your child, would you say go for it? absolutely if i —— i would, if it‘s what they wanted to do. the key thing is people who want to take pa rt thing is people who want to take part are very well informed about what it will involve. i don‘t want any surprises for them. as we have seenin any surprises for them. as we have seen in so many ways with covid,

there is a tremendous amount of altruism and people wanting to help and this is a way people can help, as you heard in the report. does this mean the process, their time with which a vaccine becomes available, could it be shortened as available, could it be shortened as a result of a trial like this? it could be. we hope that some of the vaccines that are already in late stage trials proved to be effective. that will be a great step forward. but it is also very likely we may need more vaccines, different vaccines going forward and this may really help bring those vaccines into clinical use more quickly. so you will be using any volunteer... you may introduce more than one vaccine to some of them to see if this combination makes a difference? no, i wasn‘t suggesting we would use a combination of vaccines in an individual person but for the population as a whole, we may need different vaccines in different situations and vaccines may also gradually improve over time and it

would be very good to be able to show that. the easiest and fastest way to show the differences between vaccines and to compare them directly, to do that quickly enough is using things like the challenge model. the royal free hospital has been involved in this sort of thing before, your hospital. can you give us an idea, we keep hearing a vaccine may be with us by the end of the year, then they are talking about spring, what is a realistic timescale in your mind?” about spring, what is a realistic timescale in your mind? i think it's very ha rd to timescale in your mind? i think it's very hard to answer that question. you know, people have been working extraordinarily hard on this and they have been dealing with the ebbs and they have been dealing with the ebbs a nd flows they have been dealing with the ebbs and flows of the epidemic, as well. this is the challenge of doing vaccine studies when you are doing them in the real world. the advantage of a human challenge study like this as they can go on regardless, and so we can be a little more clear about the timelines around it. and never has something, research like this, been potentially more life changing for so many people. is

there... how conscious are you of the pressure there is for a result and does that act as a huge motivation for you and your team? it is clearly a motivation. i think it‘s important to point out that this is a large tea m to point out that this is a large team of people from imperial college, from other organisations, as well. although the trial is going to start here at the royal free hospital and there has been tremendous collaboration and a willingness and a force of effort to improve everyone‘s lot by coming up with some results which are really going to give hope we can bring this pandemic to an end. you have an audience watching, may be young people thinking i want to get involved with this. what would you say to them? i would say to them if they think it‘s for them, then we would really be grateful to them and we would love them to volunteer and see whether it is right for them when they have more

information about it. sir michaeljacobs, iwish you well with it. thank you so much for your time this afternoon. thank you. we are expecting andy burnham, he is speaking up for pm. the prime minister at 5pm. your questions a nswered answered also coming up. before that, the sport. here‘s katherine downes. a spot of good news, simon. sport england has announced its providing £16.5 million worth of funding to grass—roots sport — to help people struggling to remain active during the coronavirus pandemic. the money will predominantly go to support those who have been especially affected financially during the crisis. 0ur sports correspondent laura scott has been following this for us. laura, there has been so much concern about the future of grass—roots sport during the pandemic — will this be enough to ensure clubs and services can survive? that is certainly the hope. how this fund has been designed as it is

hoped it will help grassroots organisations get people active over the winter by giving them a range of different options to access this funding, whether it be small grants of £300 to £10,000 to do things like directional signage and increasing of sanitation. then there are some bigger grants, the 10,000 — £50,000 which will be more sort of structural issues, to perhaps a repurposed basis to help people stay active. as you mentioned, this will be prioritised at those organisations who are helping those who have been particularly affected by coronavirus and are finding it ha rd to by coronavirus and are finding it hard to stay active and whether that is black, asian and ethnic minority groups, those with disabilities and also those who have been particularly financially hit and have additional caring responsibilities because sport england has found three of the most significant barriers to people getting active at this time our anxiety about coronavirus and whether they can exercise

safely. financial concerns and these caring response polities. that is where this money will be targeted. it 16.5 million, made up of 10.5 million of new money from the government and national lottery funding and 6 million left overfrom national lottery funding and 6 million left over from the community emergency fund which was launched earlier in the pandemic. very much this is hoped that it will help people get active at a really important time over the winter and nigel huddlestone has said it is welcome to funding. ok, laura, thank you for bringing us up—to—date on that there. there‘s a really big 48 hours ahead for wasps, with their participation in saturday‘s premiership rugby final in doubt. it‘s after three more players tested positive for coronavirus — taking the total to seven that now can‘t be involved against exeter at twickenham. the club will do another round of testing today. if they can‘t play the game, then bristol bears, who lost to wasps in the semi—finals, will take their place. there‘s one more game

we‘ve got to go for, potentially, when that‘s confirmed. so we‘ve started that process, the boys were just about to open some beers, they were stopped and now it‘s about flicking the switch and waiting to see what‘s going to happen wednesday, so all we can control is prepare as best as we can now and we‘re either going to get the thumbs up, we can go holiday, or we get into it. looking ahead to this evening. the champions league is back. manchester united and chelsea play in the group stages tonight. chelsea take on europa league champions sevilla at stamford bridge. the blues spent £220 million during the recent transfer window, but have won only two of their opening five premier league games. i think when i mentioned before about concentration, focus and discipline, in our results last year i think it becomes even more important than at any other kind of football because of the levels of the champions league. that is something i will always put it very clear to the players going into

games of this level and against opposition like sevilla. manchester united play psg. england‘s cricketers will be allowed to withdraw from tours if their mental health is affected by living and playing in bio—secure bubbles. that‘s according to the limited overs captain eoin morgan. england‘s games were played in bubbles this summer, and are expected to be needed for the tours to south africa, sri lanka and india next year. morgan says mental health is a priority, and he expects players to pull out of future tours because of the added pressures. that‘s all the sport for now. don‘t forget you can keep up to date with the first stage of cycling‘s vuelta a espana, where chris froome is riding his last race for ineos grenadiers. stage 16 of the giro d‘italia is finishing just about now, you can follow that on the bbc sport website. that‘s bbc.co.uk/sport. john watson will be back with our special sports day at 6:30. kat, thank you

very much. let‘s get more on the news that strengthened coronavirus restrictions are to be imposed on greater manchester after talks with number 10 collapsed. let‘s speak now to debbie abrahams — labourmpfor0ldham east and saddleworth. your reaction to where we are now? very disappointed. we hope the government would be negotiating in good faith and recognise what needed to happen in greater manchester and u nfortu nately, to happen in greater manchester and unfortunately, they have shown absolutely contempt to my constituents and across greater manchester when the leaders of the local authorities and the greater manchester mare andy burnham are trying to do the right thing, making sure those people who would be affected by a tier 3 restriction would have a suitable and appropriate financial package and that just hasn‘t happened. appropriate financial package and thatjust hasn't happened. at the heart of every difficulty the government has at this is the balance between the economy and the nation‘s health. you are a former public health consultant, do you

understand the motivation for them saying the numbers are on the rise of manchester, we have to do something? absolutely, it's not that we don‘t want to do anything. we wa nt to we don‘t want to do anything. we want to make sure, though, as ijust said, that those who would be affected would get the appropriate levels of financial support. what has been offered by the government, in terms of the two thirds support for workers and for businesses is just not adequate enough and people will be having to make very hard choices about whether they will pay their rent or whether they will be able to afford a meal. this is what we we re able to afford a meal. this is what we were fighting very hard for. given that the government have acknowledged in their manifesto that we need to level up, need to reduce the inequalities across our country, they had failed at this very important stage to test that. they had failed at this very important stage to test thatm they had failed at this very important stage to test that. is it your understanding that at the heart of this, the reason the talks broke

down was over the figure, it seems to bea down was over the figure, it seems to be a £5 million, that westminster was not prepared to go that extra 5 million? yes, i understand that calculations were made based on population size and the sum that was proposed by greater manchester with 75 million. that was rejected by government, who offered 60 million. so the greater manchester team asked for 65 million and the government still refused. these are small amounts of money, simon. the government needs to recognise we are at war against this virus and they need to be... stop trying to fund and manage a pandemic on the cheap. this is completely inappropriate and they need to recognise this. our personality is playing a part in this? we will hear from andy burnham app for pm and borisjohnson

at 5pm, is there too much politics coming into this? it would seem so. and again, playing with people‘s lives. it's again, playing with people‘s lives. it‘s so irresponsible. i can‘t tell you how cross i am, simon. it‘sjust com pletely you how cross i am, simon. it‘sjust completely irresponsible. cross at home? at the government, the government has the purse strings. the government hasn‘t refunded money that has already been spent in the restrictions that we have had since the end ofjuly. they refunded as 10% and now they want to impose further restrictions. the hardship this is having on people here, you cannot underestimate. it‘s just not good enough, it really isn‘t. most people have been doing all they have been asked than to say basically, i‘m sorry, you are not worth it, we won‘t put the money on the table, it‘s not good enough. won‘t put the money on the table, it's not good enough. is there a worry that a lot of people living in your area are going to say, look, my local mp, the local mayor, they are not happy with this being imposed on us and they mayjust

disregard whatever london says, is there a risk that could happen? we want appropriate action. so in spite of what has happened today, i hope there is... there are a few hours until the statement at 7pm. i hope people won‘t be so inflexible and rigid, to have such little humility that they are going to pick up the phone and say, let‘s try and sort this out. it may be the 11th hour but let‘s try and sort this out. there are too many lives at stake now. people need to grow up a little bit. as i say, primarily, this is a government... the government has the purse strings. they need to recognise what they need to be doing. it really is just not good enough, it‘s shown absolute contempt. a real failure enough, it‘s shown absolute contempt. a realfailure from government. good to talk to you, thank you for your time this afternoon. we are due to hear from the government as well as local leaders at manchester. at four

o‘clock, the mayor of greater manchester andy burnham will give a news conference, giving his view of why talks have failed. at five o‘clock, the prime minister leads an official briefing from downing street. at seven o‘clock, the health secretary matt hancock will give a coronavirus update, in the house of commons was that you can keep up—to—date with all developments here on the bbc news channel. now it is time for your questions answered. you‘ve been sending in your questions about what you can and can‘t do in your area as the new restrictions come into place. here to answer some of them is emeritus professor at the university of hong kong, sian griffiths — she also lead the hong kong government‘s enquiry into sars, and dr chris smith, virologist from the naked scientists podcast. thank you both very much for your time. a lot going on. chris, if i

can time. a lot going on. chris, if i ca n start time. a lot going on. chris, if i can start with you, this from lindsay, i‘m due to go on holiday to cornwall on friday, should i pack my suitcase or not? libya manchester, when will the ten pipe three restriction come into force, if they are from midnight on friday and i have already arrived at my holiday destination at that point, and my 0k to stay in cornwall? hello, lindsay, i hope you enjoy your holiday for is that this is about reducing risk. if you are already on holiday in a destination, you are not going to increase the risk demonstrably either in the destination or at home by moving anywhere again. so the best thing to do is to enjoy your holiday whilst you are there, stay there and then return home and comply with the guidelines when you return home. what wouldn't be in keeping with the guidelines is if you wait for the guidelines to change or they change in the meantime and then you leave, because if you do that, you are then actually exposing yourself to being in breach of the guidelines. there isa in breach of the guidelines. there is a terrible echo coming through,

i'm sorry. that you are then exposed toa i'm sorry. that you are then exposed to a breach of the guidelines because you have basically left a tier3area and because you have basically left a tier 3 area and you are advised not to travel. we will try and sort those sound troubles. sian, and this question, why can manchester and other councils refused to be an tier 3if other councils refused to be an tier 3 if its by law a decision of the government? i think you've just been listening to the debate that has been going on between central government and manchester, andy burnham and colleagues. this is a matter about trying to get the balance between their national framework and the local acceptance and working with the national framework that is perhaps putting in extra measures in. the key here has been about making sure people don‘t suffer from been about making sure people don‘t sufferfrom economic been about making sure people don‘t suffer from economic hardship. been about making sure people don‘t sufferfrom economic hardship. i think we will hear more about that from politicians later today. chris,

how is the sound, are you all right? we will find out, i guess. from margaret, i live in glasgow, can i travel to stay with friends who live in lee in manchester? the bottom line is you inherit the risk where you are for your part of the country and take it with you. if you are going to an area which is judged to be very high risk, you are told you shouldn't go there except for the purposes, express purposes of working there, part of a social bubble or if you study in that particular area. you shouldn't be moving in and out of those sorts of areas. if you're going from an area of lower risk to another area of lower risk, it is acceptable to do that. at the moment, i don't believe that. at the moment, i don't believe that glasgow has a tiering system in the same way england does. if that changes, it may change the guidance i'm giving you. but if you're going from an area that is medium risk for two to another tier 2 area, should

be mixing with outdoor mixing only within that tier. sian, this from barry. he says i live in scotland. i am getting married there on saturday. can my son attend from greater manchester if they go into tier 3? well, this is a difficult one. i did try to read the small print here. it does say that weddings can go ahead. it‘s not more specific than that. in tier 3, weddings can go ahead but receptions cannot but that is weddings in manchester. if you are going to scotland, you may be going to the central belt where there are some restrictions. but if you are not going to that area, then i believe you could travel into scotland for the wedding, as long as you use social distancing, wear a mask and keep your distance. but you might wa nt to keep your distance. but you might want to check with the website

because i‘m not quite sure where in scotla nd because i‘m not quite sure where in scotland and it depends where in scotla nd scotland and it depends where in scotland you are going. underlying what chris said earlier. this one from david says can my son who is a student in manchester come back down to milton keynes and what precautions should we take if he does? actually, the government have made provision for students. it does specifically say on the different parts of the high risk and very high risk categories what students should do. it specifically says you should not travel back and forth between your term time address and your home address, except at the end of term. so during term time, you shouldn't be commuting between the two unless it is your normal practice to do so. if you normally live close to your university, you shouldn't be travelling home if your university is in travelling home if your university isina travelling home if your university is in a high—risk or very high risk pa rt of is in a high—risk or very high risk part of the country first and i think the answer to that one would be you shouldn't come home but if it's possible, you could meet outside, remember, because the rule of six applies outside in areas of

high risk and even very high risk. you could still get together but he would need to do it outside. sian, this from lucinda. my grandfather is in hospital, leaving my elderly grandmother alone in manchester. i live in hertfordshire, can i go and support her? hertfordshire is lower risk than manchester but exceptions can be made for caring for vulnerable people, particularly isolated elderly. it could be she creates a ca re isolated elderly. it could be she creates a care bubble. if you are a single isolated person living on your own, you can create a bubble with that person. so you could go to actually ca re with that person. so you could go to actually care for your grandmother. it isa actually care for your grandmother. it is a bit nonspecific, your request, i‘m not sure if you are visiting or going to stay and look after her. if you go and stay and look after her, you could do so but you need to apply by the rules that apply in manchester rather than hertfordshire. ok, thank you for that. and this

one chris. sean says should my son going to university in manchester? he studies from home in tier 2 and has to travel by train to central manchester in tier 141 lesson? studying is allowed. you are asked to minimise all travel to the greatest extent you in all the tiers that are high—risk or very high risk. if you therefore can avoid doing that lesson and having to travel and you could do the from home, for example using an electronic platform, that would be the preference. certainly, you could travel in and attend the lesson is that you should of course observe all the other guidelines such as social distancing, covering your face on public transport, etc. another question from jason greater manchester. my wife and i have a holiday booked in cornwall commencing 31st of october. we are currently in tier grade two but may

be about to move to tier 3, can we still go in holiday in either tier? the advice of the tier 3 is you shouldn‘t leave tier 3. the advice of the tier 2 is you can still go on holiday. it really depends which tier you are in. if you‘re going to cornwall, you need to observe all the rules of social distancing. in tier 03, its advisory not to. those in cornwall may have a view when you get there! chris, from gillian, she says if i go away in a motor home or ca rava n says if i go away in a motor home or caravan and the area i live in goes from tier 2 to ten arfield three whilst i‘m away, do i have to return home immediately? definitely not. the purpose is minimising the

transmission chain. it's very hard to argue if you are off on your motorhome, that you coming back home prematurely is in any way going to change or risk or the risk of people around you in either location. so the best thing to do is to complete your holiday wherever you are going or wherever you are and then return home as planned and then adopt the rules according to wherever you live. as whilst you are away from home, it's not a three line whip to hurry home if the rules change at that point. another message from leicestershire. sian, she says, if my friend and i both live in tier! areas, can we meet indoors with each other in a restaurant at a tier 2 area? do you follow the rules of the area? do you follow the rules of the area you live in or are visiting?” think in this case, you follow the rules of the area you are trying to visit because you are not supposed to be mixing households in internal space. you shouldn‘t be going together to a restaurant. i think

it is households only. if you are in tier 1, it is different. i would suggest trying to find a restaurant ina tier1 suggest trying to find a restaurant in a tier1 area rather than in a tier 2 area. this from london. chris, we are in tier 2 in wembley in london at the moment. if my daughter or son want to come home from university, can they do so? are they 0k to come back home or does this go against the rule of household mixing? they are at warwick and nottingham universities. nottingham has high levels of coronavirus cases at the moment. i think it is probably tier 2, i believe. the bottom line is anything thatis believe. the bottom line is anything that is tier 2 or above, and that means the households, the home and wembley, this means you shouldn't be meeting other family members, people outside your household, other than outside. you shouldn't be meeting indoors with those people. i think that rules it out. at the end of

term, the provision is different because people may be coming home, effectively moving home. things may change by the end of term but during term time, you shouldn't mix households and tier 2 areas. meet outside, that is where the rule of six applies. just confirming you are right, nottingham is in tier 2 professor from lancashire, a right, nottingham is in tier 2 professorfrom lancashire, a few weeks ago i booked a few days down in london with my six—year—old boy. having thoroughly read through the guidance it is advised not to travel in or out of a tier with three regions is that it doesn‘t stay anywhere it is against the law. i called the hotel and they said they have no problem with this checking and despite being from a tier 3 region, is it ok to go? the advice for a tier 3 region is not to travel extensively. it is about the fact if you are in a tier 3... is it tier 3? i think it is or may

soon become lancashire, is that right? it is about to be, i think. yes. so, lancashire, is that right? it is about to be, ithink. yes. so, if you are in a tier 3, the idea is you don‘t travel. you minimise risk. as chris has said, this is all about minimising risk, that you may be spreading the infection if you go from tier 3 to tier 2 and you might wa nt to from tier 3 to tier 2 and you might want to really think about that because it is not so much that your risk is greater. if you‘re going from a lower... from two to three, your risk is greater. if you are going from three to two, you are carrying risk with you. although it is not law, it is advised that you don‘t travel. i would perhaps suggest to you, think about it and perhaps rearrange for another time. sian, thank you very much for that. sian, thank you very much for that. sian griffiths. doctor chris smith. thank you by the very much

for your help. ben brown is next — but now it‘s time for a look at the weather with stav danaos. hello there. it‘s northern ireland and scotland that‘s seen the wettest weather so far this week but as we move through the next few days, it‘s parts of england and wales which could see some of the wetter weather for a time and it will also be very windy, too, with gales in places. but, for many, on the mild side. now through today, we‘ve had low pressure out towards the west. that‘s brought strong winds around irish sea coasts and clusters of showers which have merged together to produce longer spells of rain across northern ireland and in towards southern scotland. one or two showers elsewhere but also some sunny spells. but as we move into this evening and overnight, that wet and windy weather continues to push northwards and becomes confined to the north of scotland. one or two showers further south, a lot of cloud around generally and we will see some persistent and heavy rain starting to push up from the south into southern england. those temperatures pretty mild overnight, no lower than 10—14 degrees for many

of us. now, this area of low pressure, new area of low, was named storm barbara by the spanish met service and brought very wet and windy weather to portugal and spain. as it moves towards our shores, not going to be quite as severe but it‘s still going to bring quite a lot of rainfall throughout wednesday across parts of england and wales, particularly in towards the south—east quadrant. we will also see very strong winds for a time in the extreme south—east through the channel there, gusting 50—60 miles an hourfora time. further north, sunshine, one or two showers. we still hang onto that wet weather across northern scotland. here it will also be very windy, too, as it will be across the south—east for a time. a mild day to come, maybe not quite as mild tomorrow as what we‘ve had through tuesday afternoon. still 15—17 degrees here, low—to—mid teens celsius further north, still quite cool there for the northern isles. that area of low pressure eventually pulls away. still a bit of a hang back as we head into the start of thursday across northern and eastern areas but a ridge of high pressure will continue to build in through the day, so that will settle things down. where we do start off

with a fairly breezy conditions across the north and the ease, outbreaks of rain for the north and east of scotland, perhaps one or two showers in england and wales but increasing amounts of sunshine as we head on into the afternoon and the wind is turning a bit lighter, too. not quite as quite as mild as what we‘ve seen in the last few days, closer to the seasonal average, in fact, the low to mid teens celsius. it doesn‘t last long, as we head into friday, more low pressure starts to sweep into northern and western areas. it turns wetter in the west and windy, with gales for all into the weekend.

this is bbc news. i‘m ben brown. the headlines: greater manchester is expected to become the first region in england to have tier 3 restrictions imposed on it after the breakdown of talks between local leaders and ministers. it means the area is expected to be put into the strictest measures with most household mixing not allowed and many pubs and bars forced to close. after ten days of wrangling it‘s understood it came down to £5 million with the region‘s mayor asking for at least 65 million in financial support but the government offering 60 million. without the additional support, tier 3 is going to decimate many of those businesses that have just

about clung on for the last 12 weeks. greater manchester‘s mayor andy burnham is about to hold a news conference, and then we‘ll hear from the prime minister in an hour. we‘ll bring you both events live. good afternoon. greater manchester is expected to become the first region in england to have the strictest measures imposed on them by the government. talks between ministers and local leaders in greater manchester over moving to the highest level of coronavirus restrictions have broken up without agreement. this afternoon the communities secretary robertjenrick said...

local leaders in greater manchester had called for around £75 million in financial support from central government. there are reports that the government offered £60 million — but in a conversation with the prime minister, the mayor of greater manchester andy burnham suggested that it was not possible to accept a figure lower than 65 million. greater manchester is now expected to move into the ‘very—high‘ alert level which means most pubs and bars will be closed, along with casinos, bingo halls and betting shops. andy burnham is due to speak shortly and the prime minister will be giving a briefing in downing street in an hour‘s time. earlier, the labour mp for denton and reddish in greater manchester andrew gwynne said he didn‘t regret asking the chancellor rishi sunak, in the commons, why the government "hates

greater manchester". we have been under local local lockdown measure is now for 12 weeks by and large the people have played by and large the people have played by the rules, the police have enforced them and the local authorities have tackled issues with the rules and the law and the same will happen tonight and tomorrow and in the weeks and months ahead irrespective of our own personal views and opinions but that doesn‘t mean to say that we can‘t challenge the government where we think they have got the measure is wrong. actually, on this, if they are going to put us into tier 3 which we feel is not the right answer for greater manchester, the least they could do is support our hard—pressed workers, especially the low paid, and businesses that have been struggling over the last 12 weeks, the

last three months of lockdown measures, because this will be for many of them the final nail in the coffin. we‘ve been getting some business reaction from the hospitality industry — john hamilton is the vice chair of the manchester pub and club network and runs bar pop on canal street in the city centre. he says more clarity and support is needed by business owners. we have had this a week, ten days, these negotiations and we‘ve come to the end of it and still nothing has come out of it, and are we in tier 3 or are we in tier 2? manchester has been in tier 2 for a while now under these restrictions and it‘s damaged our economy amazingly. you know, the bars and the industry is suffering really, really bad at the moment. there‘s nobody in the city centre coming to visit our industry, our bars. it‘s really... i‘m sorry, i‘ve been talking so much today, i‘m so upset. i‘ve got 60 members of staff, we don‘t know where we stand, we haven‘t designed

a rota, they don‘t know when they‘re working, what shifts they‘re working, are they on furlough, where they will be next week and whether they can pay the rent. we don‘t know. we really don‘t know. if we go into tier 3, what is the impact going to be on the city centre of manchester and venues like mine? they‘re asking for people not to travel, so therefore the city centre will be like a deserted island. there‘s no follow—through. and there‘s no support. i understand andy burnham and the greater manchester council have been fighting for business packages but even the likes of 75 million is not enough for greater manchester, to support our businesses and staff. we need help. we are independent businesses and sadly, slowly, one by one, we are fading away one by one. danjohnson is in manchester. we are expecting to hear from andy

burnham very shortly, the mayor of greater manchester, and it looks like it was just £5 million between the two sides that stopped a deal being struck. government sources accusing andy burnham of being too proud to make a deal. interesting to get his reaction to that. that is what everybody is waiting for but no sign of andy burnham himself yet although some of greater manchester‘s political leaders are starting to gather. richard lees, the leader of manchester city council is here, waiting to address members of the media, and some members of the media, and some members of the public who are waiting to hear from their local leaders today. there were people outside the library when the midday deadline came and went without an agreement and now we wait to find exactly what has gone wrong, what was the sticking point. a suggestion it may have been a relatively small sum of money, maybe £5 million that could not be agreed upon before the midday deadline and that is

why the communities secretary robert jenrick, having not reached a deal, has put the issue back to the prime minister, so after andy burnham has presumably spoken here in the next few minutes we are expecting to hear from the prime minister about what his next step is because the government said if there was not a local agreement it would impose the tier 3 restrictions anyway. we will wait to see if that will happen. then the question is how much support will there be for local people and local businesses? that is what had been argued overfor so many days now, these discussions, trying to put more in place to support the businesses and the workers that will be directly affected if they have to close and those who might be hit by the knock—on impact of social life here being disrupted, you are people being disrupted, you are people being out and about. it is already quite in manchester city centre and people who have suffered a lot of disruption —— already quiet. not just in the last few weeks but in the last few months back to the

start of the original lockdown, and people say the support package in place so far, two thirds support for most people who are told they are not able to work because of the measures, they feel that is not enough and does not do enough to cover them. how long will this go on? how much disruption we have a face and how far into the winter will this go? —— how much disruption will this go? —— how much disruption will they face? in liverpool, they we re will they face? in liverpool, they were told they would see in a month how the measures were working out and they would have a chance to reduce the measures if they were having an effect, and people in manchester have wanted to know what the future will look like, will they be living in this local lockdown potentially for months and that is what is raising questions about livelihoods here? the way this has been drawn out, the bitterness around the discussions, the suggestion the government was not negotiating fairly at times and yesterday was accused of

exaggerating the pressure on local hospitals in attempt to reach a deal, that has gendered bad feeling amongst certain people in the city, that they now feel like the government is bullying them into these restrictions and that is what we heard from local leaders... we are waiting to see exactly what the format of this press conference will be an exactly who is going to speak and who will get a chance to ask their question of andy burnham and some of the other leaders who are gathering here right now but the question they are going to face, how are they not managed to reach a deal? everyone accepts this is serious and there is so much at sta ke, serious and there is so much at stake, and they agreed further restrictions were needed in some form although what we restrictions would be has been one of the arguing points, but the mid lie wood —— the midday deadline has come and gone and now we have the government on the brink of imposing the local restrictions on greater manchester,

that means no matter what the local leaders were able to agree beforehand, they now won‘t have much ofa beforehand, they now won‘t have much of a say in what happens next. it will be for government ministers and officials to determine the restrictions and what sort of businesses are affected and to what degree, and what support there will be, and how long it may last, when the review periods may kick in to look again at the measures to see whether they are being effective. local leaders thought the standard tier 3 restrictions as laid out by the government were not going to be effective at getting the numbers down in the city and that has been one part of the concern that has been argued over over the last few weeks but they really has been a lot of bitterness in this discussion —— there really are. this has delayed there really are. this has delayed the imposition of new measures and some people feel this could have an impact on the health of the city, one person said to me that andy burnham needs to stop posturing and

make sure that the case numbers do not get further out of control. but the midday deadline came and went without the agreement and then there was an update from a —— the local communities secretary, robert jenrick, he said that the mayor of greater manchester was not willing to ta ke greater manchester was not willing to take the action required and reach an agreement with the government and he said he had therefore advised the prime minister that the discussions have concluded without an agreement, so the ball is now in the court of the prime minister to determine the next steps. we are expecting to hear first of all from andy burnham and other local leaders about how this went so wrong. for the moment, thanks forjoining us. we are hearing andy burnham is running a few minutes behind schedule. we will be back with you when he appears. let‘s speak to our political correspondent iain

watson. a difference of 6 million, five milling pounds, that is peanuts in government terms —— £5 million. was this a question of central government not wanting to set a financial president when it comes to negotiating with regional leaders? that is partly the reason why talks have broken down and it is indeed a drop in the ocean of support that has washed towards many local authorities since the coronavirus struck at the reason this £5 million gap is between 60 and 65 was unbridgeable, was for several reasons, first of all, and... sorry, andy burnham is now appearing so we wa nt to andy burnham is now appearing so we want to hear what he has got to say after the breakdown of talks between him and other local leaders in greater manchester and

central government. thank you everybody. if i could introduce people, richard lees, the leader of manchester city council, the city mayor of salford, aidan 0‘brien, leader of dairy—macro council, the leader of 0ldham council, the leader of 0ldham council and the leader of stockport council and the leader of stockport council —— the leader of bury council. this reflects the unity that we have had in greater manchester, amongst our ten councils but also our members of parliament, as well. people in greater manchester have been living under restrictions for three months and they have taken a heavy toll on people, they are struggling, businesses are on the brink of closure, and to accept any further restrictions in these circumstances would be certain to increase levels of poverty, homelessness,

and hardship within our city region. let‘s be clear who is most affected bya let‘s be clear who is most affected by a tier 3 lockdown, it is people working in pubs, in bookmakers, driving taxis, people too often forgotten driving taxis, people too often fo rg otte n by driving taxis, people too often forgotten by those in power. but this city region has never walked on by and it never will. at the start of these negotiations, together with the leaders of our councils, we made a commitment to all of those people, that we would look out for them and stand up for what is right. it cannot be right to close people‘s place of work without giving them proper support, so they can look after themselves,

their families, through a very challenging winter that lies ahead. so we have been clear throughout, we could only accept further restrictions with full financial support. we put forward a costed package of measures. a detailed package of measures, but in particular to support people on the lowest incomes and people who are self employed, £15 million per month was what we costed was needed to support people across the ten boroughs that make up greater manchester. these are people who would need support to top up the furlough to 80%, recognising that they cannot live on two thirds of their wages, people who are self—employed, also with 80% of their income, so they could make ends meet. that was the commitment that we made. this would have cost

£90 million to the end of the financial year and in negotiations with the government we were prepared to reduce our request to 75 million and we even were prepared to go even lower, 65 million as the bare minimum, to prevent a winter of real hardship here. that is what we believe we needed to prevent poverty and to prevent hardship and to prevent homelessness, those were the figures that we had, not what we wanted, but what we needed to prevent all of those things happening. but the government refused to accept this. at two o‘clock today they walked away from negotiations. in summary, no point today where we offered enough today today where we offered enough today to protect the poorest people in our communities through the punishing reality of the winter to come. even

now i‘m still willing to do a deal but it can‘t be on the terms that the government offered today because on those terms i could not meet the commitments i made to people on the lowest incomes, to people who are self employed and to be freelancers in the city who need our support. i could not do it on those terms. i don‘t think it is right to ask people to go into a lockdown and accept further changes within their lives without supporting them through all of that and what it entails. it can‘t be right to do that. how can we carry the public with us through the pandemic if we are forcing them to lose their income, their place of 02:17:45,1000 --> 02:17:47,245 work, without supporting them through that, how is that going to keep people with what is being done here to fight this virus? finally, idon‘t is being done here to fight this virus? finally, i don‘t believe we can proceed as a

country on this basis through the pandemic. by grinding communities down, through punishing financial negotiations. we are asking a lot of the public at this difficult time and we need to carry them with us, not crush their spirit. we need national unity and thatis spirit. we need national unity and that is why i now look to parliament to intervene and make a judgment on afair to intervene and make a judgment on a fairfinancial to intervene and make a judgment on a fair financial framework for tier 3 lockdown because make no mistake this was not just 3 lockdown because make no mistake this was notjust about greater manchester. all parts of the country may find themselves in a tier 3 lockdown at some point this winter and what we need to be able to say to people living in those areas is that they have a guarantee that they can plan should they need it, 80% of their wages or their income, that is their wages or their income, that is the least we owe to those people, the least we owe to those people, the money that businesses will be able to rely on to survive, we should be setting out that

fair financial framework. i want to finish by speaking directly to the people of greater manchester because i know they have felt a lot of uncertainty over the last week. as these negotiations have played out. we know this is going to be a difficult time for you but together with the leaders behind me and the leaders of greater manchester, we took this stand for you, and we will carry on fighting for you and we will carry on putting your health first. we will support people‘s health in the broadest possible sense. tough days lie ahead, but please, everybody, observe the law at all times and follow the public health advice. above all else, please look out for each other. as i know you will. thank you very much. applause studio: andy burnham

their calling on people in greater manchester to observe the law at all times and to follow the public health advice but saying that he could not accept what the government was offering in terms of financial support for greater manchester, their bottom line was £65 million, to take it into tier 3, and the government was offering £60 million, so only a £5 million difference there. we can now listen to richard lees, the council leader in manchester. ... to richard lees, the council leader in manchester. could curtailthe spread of covid—19, the second measures were measures that would allow us to support the most vulnerable people, the people most at risk of hospitalisation if they do catch the virus, of being able to look after themselves, and the third

was what andy has talked about, the package of measures to be able to support those people effectively put out of work by the restrictions. that package was costed in its entirety and that is what we went to government for, and in the discussions we have had over the last couple of days we thought twice that they were going to meet us in being able to support that package, twice when it has got to the end of the day they have left us down and they are letting the people of manchester down. —— they have let us down. can i say, although we have put forward a fully costed package of measures, we as yet do not have onejot from government of measures, we as yet do not have one jot from government in writing saying what it is that they propose to us, nothing in writing yet from government. that is not a way to work with us and not the way to help us support the people of greater manchester and not a way to

deal effectively with the virus, thank you. inaudible even the money we are talking about, we still have no idea what conditions the government would attach to that money. no idea. studio: richard lees, the leader of manchester city council. 11 days we have been having detailed conversations with the government, and we have also done our homework and we have also done our homework and actually taking an evidence—based approach to these negotiations and we know in greater manchester, since tier 1, negotiations and we know in greater manchester, since tier1, tier2, 408,000 people have actually accessed the furlough arrangements in greater manchester and we also know that employment, unemployment, sorry, it has doubled

between march and may, and going into these negotiations we already know greater manchester is in a precarious situation. we are absolutely 100% behind the work that the combined authority has done to do the evidence—based homework and to properly understand what we need to supportjobs properly understand what we need to support jobs and businesses properly understand what we need to supportjobs and businesses here in greater manchester. as richard and andy have said, we have put all of this to government over the last few days and what has not come back is a reason to come evidence—based approach on behalf of government, and government are entering into multi—million pound contracts at a national level but they can't find an extra £15 million for the people of greater manchester. this is the situation we find ourselves in today, we have gone into these negotiations in good faith and we have ta ken negotiations in good faith and we have taken an evidence—based approach to this and we have done our homework and we have fought hard

for the people of greater manchester. it is disappointing today that the government can't back the negotiations that greater manchester has put forward, the home work we have done and the evidence we have put forward to support workers, to support children and families, within our city region, and this has always been about people, and never been about politics for us and it is sad today that the government have not accepted our reasoned, logical and evidence—based approach. but we are where we are and we will continue to fight, the door remains open in terms of negotiations with government and we will continue to make that case, the evidence reason —based case for the people of greater manchester. thank you. applause studio: that was the salford city mayor. we can continue to listen

in. these are a variety of local leaders in manchester. ... we these are a variety of local leaders in manchester. we were coming in good faith and we had done the evidence and looked at it and put something together, and we said, we are bringing you something which we think will make a difference, and at the same time consider people in their entirety and there are whole, and their health is more than just one thing, more than just covid, and we have to think about that together as one thing. what we have here in greater manchester, we have had restrictions on and off of various degrees across the city region, that has really affected how people have been able to live their lives, and to not be able to be with each other, knowing that some of us have been poorly and worried about other people, we have lost loved ones, we are going through stress and difficulty and we don‘t know if our jobs are going to be here, it has been a big ask of people to

go into tier 3 and been a big ask of people to go into tier3and limit been a big ask of people to go into tier 3 and limit that even further, for quite a long period of time, so, for quite a long period of time, so, for me, it has always been around what we can do that will be the right thing for people here and thinking of them as a whole person. at the end of the day, there is a massive amount of uncertainty now, and as paul said, we went into this in good faith, this was about how can we get the best thing for greater manchester and all we have seen is that the government doesn‘t care, seen is that the government doesn‘t ca re, really. seen is that the government doesn‘t care, really. they have turned their backs on us and they are not really interested in that. they had their set agenda and to me that is what it feels like. they had their agenda and they were sticking to it. applause should the people of manchester

expect the restrictions to be enforced? we are led to believe that the government will be imposing tier 3 but we don‘t know the statement of the government is about to make but they walked away from negotiations. we were prepared to carry on talking and it wasn‘t about what we wanted, but what we needed. what we needed to protect our public from poverty over what will be a punishing winter, and that is what this was all about. the government needs to reflect, if you are to ask people to go intoa reflect, if you are to ask people to go into a situation where places of work are closed down across the ten boroughs of greater manchester, that isa boroughs of greater manchester, that is a big thing. you are asking people to do a big thing and you can‘t do that without fully supporting them through that and doing that on the cheap, but that is what they were trying to do it seems to me. the whatever it takes a moment of earlier this year has gone, it is you will get what we give you, and that is not acceptable

in the middle of a crisis like a national pandemic. inaudible de government tabled £60 million and isaid de government tabled £60 million and i said that was not enough to protect people from real hardship. i costed it at £50 million per month and we thought that was going to need to be —— £15 million per month. we thought it was going to be 90 until the end of the financial year but we brought it down. if the government put 60 million on the table, surely, if they are taking that off again, is it a game of poker? are they playing poker with peoples lives in a pandemic? are they piling pressure on people to accept the lowest figure they can get away with? is that what this is about, is this how they are running the country? are they committed to levelling up the country?

that is what they tell the people in this city, many who may have voted for them, they said they would level up. what we have seen today is a deliberate act of levelling down. applause studio: that is the mayor of greater manchester asking if the government is playing poker with people‘s lives and he says the government cannot proceed by grinding communities down. and we‘ll have a special programme with coverage of the prime minister‘s press conference here on bbc one and the bbc news channel — that‘s from 4:30 this afternoon

i‘m ben brown. the headlines: greater manchester is expected to become the first region in england to have tier 3 restrictions imposed on it after the breakdown of talks between local leaders and ministers. it means the area is expected to be put into the strictest measures, with most household mixing not allowed and many pubs and bars forced to close. the mayor of greater manchester says the poorest people will suffer, and the amount offered by the government will not be enough to prevent a winter of hardship. how can we carry the public with us through this pandemic if we are forcing them to lose their income,

their