been w——u if‘ai‘ii w——u it"ui‘ii mltfllfltt changes have been that optimistic. they are still having to create new schemes of people clearly so desperately need help. the question is really how sustainable it all it is. how far these clues. go? is really how sustainable it all it is. how farthese clues. go? i is really how sustainable it all it is. how far these clues. go? i was going to introduce new ones every few months into a vaccine is found? with a vaccine as some people are suggesting is it actually cure and we have to live to live with us is not how far into these schemes get extended, health optimistic does the government needs to be? there will all be a reckoning this will have to be paid back. i surprise more adventures on the waiting a red flag over that or perhaps they are not behind closed doors.” over that or perhaps they are not behind closed doors. i don't have a copy so you're going to have to talk me through it. furlough fraud. £2 billion lost to criminals in the furlough cash fraud. this is something that has been touched upon. i'm not seeing, the figure seems incredibly boring. just talk us seems incredibly boring. just talk us through what the papers have

discovered. in order to claim the back to the below scheme as a small business you simply had to say that your staff aren't working. your staff weren't then allowed to do any work for you but you could claim 80% of the money from the taxpayer for the wages, to cover the wages that you are continuing to pay them. we saw this as well with a small business loans scheme, grant applications. the offer of free money very low level of form filling in order to get hold of it has tempted a lot of people to make those claims, unfortunately from the operation of the skin it would be very difficult to make up employees but we can do is keep your employees working for you whilst a sickly claiming their budgets. and we know that there are stories of disreputable employers forcing their employees to continue to come into work to come into part—time. and

they would be in so time spent looking into this has a very i want to estimate of the amount of fraud that has been within that scheme. it's the danger of developing an emergency scheme that has to be easy to apply to. he will inevitably get fraud. i think the crucial thing is that we investigate all that backward as we can. towns times also say it's a huge number but if there's an opportunity that there are some elements of society because not everybody but there's elements that will try and take advantage of wea knesses that will try and take advantage of weaknesses in the system. asked him how he is absolutely right to point out that is convenient launch from a standing start like this with millions of employers calling in hotlines trying to get the support, is going to be open. we know this since april that's when be hmrc

auster said it's open to abuse. therapy reports all summer about loopholes employers substituting redundancy payments by the furlough scheme. this story has been building for months and months and months without last they suggested it may be 3.5 billion that have been stolen, if you like. 2 billion seems favourable compared to that. it's one of the question is how this new job support scheme will avoid being open to abuse. hmrc had said they are going to do checks before they give any payments which, i don't know if that's feasible and you can have again so many people coming up leading the support. i don't know if you're going to be a little money before you done checks on them. they also said to the point that probably just raised about employers inflating claims on behalf of employees are claiming without their knowledge. they said they're going to write to the employee to let them know what their employer is doing. which might help. we've known this

all along so it's not a shocking story to me. you are saying it's favourable but it's eye watering. we are going to keep his focus on the times and yes it's the paper, here is without ministers to make for north as part of civil service shakeup. there have been rumours about this for a long time. there was a plan to move part of the treasury or dominic cummings scheme it specialists to your room for your car all sorts of things. my personal preference would be to move the whole of parliament to manchester or york. this is yet another rumour that part of the shake—up will be to lose substantial numbers of civil serva nts lose substantial numbers of civil servants including prevention measures about the house of lords moving out of london. my view is, we've been talking about this for

20,i we've been talking about this for 20, i had a child 20 years ago writing as a journalist about the lions review of how to move civil serva nts lions review of how to move civil servants out of london. we keep doing it and doing it yet you got that magnetic pole. the reality is false parliament is right there in westminster, the symbols servants congregate around it. if you want to disrupt that overly centralised, overly london centric problem of our country actually have to just push parliament out of london once and for all. i got back to him that went because i want to focus on the story thatis because i want to focus on the story that is coming out from poland. i started breaking today. it's not a government supporting paper but it is pretty tough. basically it's saying the worst case scenario, the abortion laws have been made even tighter. bear in mind it's really good as the women's editor we will

get your perspective. they are already extremely, extremely tight. already some of the strictest in europe. so to see them tighten even more is really shocking, actually. so now the situation is in poland, you can only have an abortion in cases of rape, incest or where the mother cell is at risk. which is extremely strict. and there are ple nty of extremely strict. and there are plenty of women speaking up this evening. stories coming out of polling saying even in those circumstances it is almost impossible to access it abortion in their country. i think last year around 1000 legal abortions were performed in poland. where is there we re performed in poland. where is there were about 100,000 women travelling abroad to have them. of course in the current climate they won't be able to do. it really takes bodily autonomy from within. and made illegal in cases of foetal abnormality and that is the majority of abortions in poland that is

happening at this point. there are women already once again protesting. thank you so much polly and claire as always and thanks to our viewers. we will be back shortly for the next edition of the papers. good evening, i'm katie sha na han with your latest sports news. and we'll start with the europa league as arsenal came from behind to beat rapid vienna in their opening group game. it was the first time mikel arteta's side had played in front of a crowd this season too with 3,000 home fans in vienna and they had a reason to cheer early in the second half after this poor defensive mistake from bernd leno and david luiz put rapid into the lead. luiz chalked that off soon after to make things level, before captain pierre emerick aubameyang scored the winner to give

arsenal their first away win in the europa league. the reaction i think the second half we understood much better these spaces that we had to attack. we played with more purpose, we generated much more rightly considered delay chance with another misunderstanding at the back. but in general i think we scored two goals in the set was fantastic. we are delighted to start the face with a victory. tottenham had to face austrian opponents too, but they had a much more comfotable evening. they beat lask 3—nil. heung min son scored their third. leicester too had a simple enough night as they beat ukrainian side, zorya luhansk 3—nil. kelechi iheanacho set up the first two, before scoring their third. rangers also got off to a winning start with a 2—0 win over standard liege, crowds in belgium for that one too,

and they saw this sumptuous finish from keemar roofe. best goal of the night and a memorable way to secure the victory for the scottish side. no three points for celtic though. they lost 3—1 to ac milan. mohammed elyounoussi got them back into the game at 2—1, but despite the late pressure the current serie a leaders made it three with a late goal from yens petter huger. wales have won their latest european championship qualifier after beating the faroe islands at rodney parade. they started slowly and were 1—0 up at half time, but two goals from natasha harding and this one from lily woodham gave them a 4—0 victory, closing the gap on group c leaders norway to four points. time for a quick roundup of the day's other sports stories: british cyclist tayo gaygan hart is just 15 seconds off the lead at the giro d'italia after finishing second on stage 18. he was pipped to the line by the australian, jai hindley. gaygan hart is now up

to third in the standings. dan martin is up to second at the vuelta a espana after winning stage 3. the irishman battling up the final climb ahead of race leader primoz roglitch and the richard carapaz from the inoes grenadiers. britain's cameron norrie was beaten by world number 19, milos raonic in the second round of the european open in antwerp. a second set tie—break handed raonic the win. to rugby union, and england's match against the barbarians at twickenham on sunday could be cancelled. it's after some of the barbarian players breached covid protocols, leaving their hotel bubble last night without permission. they have been separated from the rest of the squad and will miss the game. the rfu say that they'll make a decision by three o'clock tomorrow. more from our rugby union correspondent chris jones. as many i understand as 12 barbarian players have been asked from the squad after breaching covid

protocols. they all signed up to a strict covid code of conduct not to leave their hotel apart from training, basically. as many as 12 of them went out to a restaurant last night, that meant that they are at risk of infection according to the barbarians of the work of the union. all 12 daily players from infrastructure involved many players involved in that part. they won't be playing come sunday. now the barbarians are desperately trying to find some new players who also have to be covid free and have to have gone through the testing protocols as well. maybe players from the scotland, wales campbell getting last—minute sos play. but that game on sunday completely up in the air. it's also thrown into turmoil now. the barbarians or dents are currently trying to raise the score to fulfil the fixture. 11 wasps players will be unavailable for their premiership final against exeter on saturday. wasps were only given the green light to play the match yesterday,

after revealing they've been hit badly by coronavirus with players either testing positive or having to self isolate. head coach, lee blackett says four players would have been in his matchday squad. the safety of our players is more important than the game. our players are our families without it we feel that someone's been too long or close contact with other people with people yes, yes it's tough for those placed in his finals especially when they tested negative results. but the health and safety of our staff and families is more important. and of exeter as well. the 2020 super league grand final will be played at the kcom stadium in hull a week on friday, the first time it's not been held at old trafford. meanwhile, there were two matches in rugby league's superleague tonight. in the late game wakefield beat hudderfield by 18 points to 14, earlier castleford beat hull kr 32-18 castleford dominated and ran in five tries to hull kr's three,

the last claimed by greg eden with his second of the match. and that's all the sport, bye for now. hello there. we had some sunshine on thursday to get out and about to enjoy some of the automotive colours on offer. i suspect friday morning, cloudy affair. is that this obvious band of rave moving into resting areas and less obvious reign already across south west england spread to the midlands and east anglia was turning heavier and across process even as well for that brain at a time that sums up the weather as we get into friday morning. voters are our main band of rain. we can significantly across england and wales is up which is easily becomes lighter and catchier. probably some bits of pieces of rain in parts of east england into the afternoon. further north and west it's an improving

weather picture with the weather becoming much funnier —— i was becoming much funnier —— i was becoming confined to western areas of scotland. there is more rain on the way through friday night and at the way through friday night and at the end of rain will be pushing right the way across on saturday accompanied by some very gusty winds that could bring some localised disruption. that's your brother.

this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. donald trump and joe biden are just three hours away from their last presidential debate, with new rules to stop them talking over each other. i'm laura trevelyan live in nashville, tennessee. i've been asking both campaigns what we can expect from tonight's high—stakes debate. controversy as poland's top court tightens the law on abortion, making terminations only legal to save a mother's life or in cases of rape or incest. as europe struggles to contain a new wave of coronavirus infections, the uk announces billions of pounds of extra support for businesses and workers trying to keep their heads above water.