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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are polly mackenzie, chief executive director of the cross—party think tank demos, and claire cohen, women's editor of the daily telegraph. thanks so much for coming back and i am pleased to say that i've got all the papers tonight, so let's start with some of the pages we have already. the metro says that test and trace is "down the pan" as prime minister borisjohnson admits the tracing system "must improve". this is echoed on the front of the i, which shows front line nhs workers and the headline "covid cases up to 90,000 a day — and test and trace can't cope." moving to the telegraph, we have a picture of the prime minister who, alongside chancellor rishi sunak, has announced an extra £13 billion of support for workers.
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the express call it boris and rishi's show of strength with the headline "together, we will protect britain". but the guardian approach the story differently, saying the chancellor was forced to dig deeper amid anger at level of support for jobs. the daily mail leads on a study by the medicaljournal the lancet, which says that staying indoors does not stop the virus and barely changes the r rate. and the times‘ lead story says that £2 billion has been lost to fraudsters who targeted the government's furlough scheme. that's some of the pages, the front pages, that we've got already. let's start and let's start with the metro because a lot of the papers are focusing on test and trace and let's start with you, polly, this time. the metro, test and trace down the pan. they are not mincing their words when it comes to the headland and what they feel about the test and what they feel about the test and trace schemes tabula the test
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and trace schemes tabula the test and trace scheme has reached a record low of the percentage of cases. that they are reaching. and we also know the speed with which people are getting their test results back is getting slower. hardly anyone is getting the back within 2a hours, which is crucial if you're going to get to people's contacts before they then develop symptoms and are getting tested anyway. the problem is that the infection is now rising exponentially, faster than test and trace can expand to keep up with it, and those people working within test entries are doing a greatjob post of it's just that even though they get a little bit better every day, the virus gets so much worse every day i'm a they can't keep up. i think we need to redesign the system, think we need to redesign the syste m , to p think we need to redesign the system, top to bottom, and actually devolved it, build it into the local government, the local public health teams. they should have been expanded dramatically right back in
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march and scaled up instead of the kind of purist, technological, let's have an app, let's automate it all, let's have a call centre, because actually asking people to do something so disruptive to their lives, so potentially economically harmful to their lives as isolating for two weeks cannot be done by some random stranger or a robot. it has to be somebody who feels connected to be somebody who feels connected to your community if, crucially, you wa nt to your community if, crucially, you want it to be effective, because even when test and trace does reach people, we still are seeing really low numbers of people action complying with their legal requirement to isolate. parliament has just voted through a new rule allowing police officers to use reasonable force to detain people, but we know the police officers are not going out, doing enforcement visits, checking the people are isolating, so it's reallyjust all straws in the wind. claire, straws
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in the wind? according to the metro, one in seven people get results in 24 one in seven people get results in 2a hours. as polly was saying, it needs to be much higher than that for this to be fully effective. and also this idea to get people to do the isolation if they are told to stop the exactly. -- exactly. the problem is too full. the people, the tiny numberof problem is too full. the people, the tiny number of people getting the results back in 24 hours, and people getting contacted in time to self—isolate. this getting contacted in time to self— isolate. this system getting contacted in time to self—isolate. this system really is a mess. we are in a situation where the government is chasing targets on this. borisjohnson has set this half—million test date target by october and that is where the focus seems to be. and, sure, they are getting near to that target, but if you're knocking the results back of those tests in time for people to self—isolate and those tests in time for people to self— isolate and potentially those tests in time for people to self—isolate and potentially protect others, these targets are completely useless, so it's a system in a real mess and i'm not surprised we are
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seeing headline like" down the pan". we knew this winter spike and winter peak was coming, so the excuse being given and sir patrick valance was saying today... we knew the system was not good enough. polly, the guardian also focusing on that. there's also a split between the test and trace and the rishi sunak announcement, staying with test and trace, why did the government not go with this sort of localised version? rather than what we have at the moment? local government has an image problem in central government, especially with i think this government, which has a slightly hubristic tendency to think that they are more clever than anybody else, that nobody with any talent has worked in government before and the civil service is dreadful. what
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you have to do is build it back from scratch, higher in one of your mates oi’ someone scratch, higher in one of your mates or someone from business and get it to run everything. just sort of accidental problem with our current government is they don't have really any respect for the expertise and experience and complexity of good government, both at central and local levels, but also there is plenty of awful local government, awful central government mistakes, but actually something like local public health is something local government teams are good at, and a little bit more faith in them at the beginning of the pandemic and a little bit less of an assumption that technology was going to sweep all the... is a bit like elon musk saying, you can have my submarine to rescue those boys in the cave. we don't need a submarine, sometimes you just need a new there is dr. let's not go there! let's not bring
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elon musk into this. let's look at the measures the chancellor is bringing income of this idea that businesses especially in tier 2 of this alert system, need much more help given for we are right now with this virus. yes, businesses in tier 2are this virus. yes, businesses in tier 2 are stuck between a rock and a ha rd 2 are stuck between a rock and a hard place because a lot of attention has been on businesses in tier}, attention has been on businesses in tier 3, arguably not enough, they would say, but in tier 2, you have hospitality still open but the restrictions are such that people are not going out. you are not allowed to meet other households indoors, soap pubs, restaurants, cafes are suffering and they perhaps have not gotten the recognition as they should have been. there is a lot of anger, from people such as andy burnham, who presides over
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greater manchester, which is in tier 3, who said he was open mouth that so 3, who said he was open mouth that so much help is being given to tier 2as so much help is being given to tier 2 as well when his area was in that position for weeks and months and no help was given, so there is real tension emerging between tier 3 and tier2as tension emerging between tier 3 and tier 2 as well as the tensions there experiencing because of the restrictions placed on them. and also in the telegraph, the split between the financial side of this and detest and trace, but the telegraph here is talking also about rishi sunak but also that this is in order to avoid a national lockdown, according to the prime minister, something that some of the country do want to see. we are seeing a really split country. yeah, we absolutely... this shift to local and then regional restrictions and then seeing the scottish, welsh and northern irish governments go off in different directions as well, has created huge amounts of tension. i
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did the government has oddly decided to go to war with andy burnham, a war of words, obviously, around relatively small amounts of money — certainly if you compare how much they spent on this test entry system. they are going to war with sadiq khan in london around the congestion charge, of all things, and it's an odd tactic when one of the great things boris johnson and it's an odd tactic when one of the great things borisjohnson has sentin the great things borisjohnson has sent in this conference speech was that he wanted to unite the country around a more optimistic vision of the future. actually, if you're just putting everybody against each other, i don't see how that comes together. it is not surprising that when the money is being handed out, when the money is being handed out, when there's so much economic suffering, people are going to get a ntsy suffering, people are going to get antsy and there is good to be rivalry. it is why, actually, the simplejustice rivalry. it is why, actually, the simple justice argument for a national lockdown is so important because it would actually take some of the heat out of this, nothing to
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do with epidemiology, nothing to do with the economy, simply about how you hold up the country, i think. and, claire, apologies, the telegraph is your paper but i'm going to skip to the daily express because what they're showing is a picture of unity, borisjohnson and rishi sunak there. the boris and rishi sunak there. the boris and rishi show is how they summon up in the headline. a show of strength as they pledge these billions to save they pledge these billions to save the economy. what do you make of this show of strength, this show? the boris and rishi show is something we have not seen enough a lot, so i'm not surprised is making headlines. we have not seen them standing together at these press compasses at all. notably when the chancellor gave his press conference la st chancellor gave his press conference last month, borisjohnson was never to be seen, and i think turned up at a northamptonshire police station will be chancellor was giving his
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speech, which was seen by a lot of people is a very odd thing and lead toa people is a very odd thing and lead to a lot of headlines they may be pulling in different directions. today, the clu ny pulling in different directions. today, the cluny wanted to put on the united front and suggest that numberten, which is the united front and suggest that number ten, which is always asking for money, and numberten, —— number 11, always holding the purse strings come or in unity. and the post, polly, you touched on the four of words with andy burnham and the government —— the yorkshire post. denying a war of words, but from what we have been seeing, you touched upon it, it might be something different. they don't seem to have been evenhanded in the way that they have dealt with different parts of the country. south yorkshire seems to have got slightly underpaid. there were they accepted
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the lockdown settlement. they came into government with this great promise of leveling up, and at the moment, the political strategy seems to, rightly or wrongly in terms of the substance of it, gives fodder to a set of labour leaders across the north, including in yorkshire, dan jarvis, to say that the north is being abandoned and there's all of these examples of conservative constituencies which had higher numbers or who have got, and did not go into restrictions, or who got more money from the future towns fund and it just more money from the future towns fund and itjust seems like bad politics as well as a bad economic at this point. what do you make of this, claire, given that we had this redwall up in the north being knocked down by the conservatives and that we have got this situation
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here? what is your prognosis for what is going to happen next?” don't think it's a good look for the government, sally. the manifesto pledge of leveling up, pollyjust mentioned to yet you've got grant shapps in this story saying ending disparities between north and south isa disparities between north and south is a government priority, and yet it does not like this in the last few months. and you've got labour leaders in currently popular in their regions and outside of the regions, such as andy burnham, saying the government is dividing and conquering, there will be a lot of regional leaders and thousands of people in redwall constituencies looking at what is going on and feeling like they have been treated extremely unfairly, and at the ce ntre extremely unfairly, and at the centre of power, as ever, is london, is westminster, and they feel like an afterlife. — — is westminster, and they feel like an afterlife. —— feel like an afterthought. the times has a headline that will be heartbreaking
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so headline that will be heartbreaking so many. £2 billion lost to terminals in furlough cash fraud. talk the times findings. the times have been talking to tax officials, believing that the £2 billion has gone to criminals using false company details in order to make claims, basically on behalf of reputable firms, and then the criminals are using their details. when this does happen, in terms of financialfraud, when this does happen, in terms of financial fraud, the money when this does happen, in terms of financialfraud, the money is then very often pass ported onto another account offshore, and offshore, and offshore, to the point where is almost impossible to get it back full of it is depressing. £2 billion isa full of it is depressing. £2 billion is a lot of money and anybody‘s terms, but it is i think the inevitable reality of a scheme which had to be set up so quickly, from scratch, and because businesses were under so much stress, had to be easy
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to apply for. you're going to get some fraud. if you think of this as a percentage of the 200 billion or so a percentage of the 200 billion or so that the treasury has invested, it is relatively small. it is 2 billion. we should worry more, start to worry, but if we can pay this debt off, but we should chase this down if we can. it would be so frustrating to so many people, claire, reading that headline. frustrating to so many people, claire, reading that headlinem will be. let's be clear, till billion pounds is an awful lot of money. we can be any around those 12 billion on test entries, but 12 billion on test entries, but 12 billion to be defrauded is an awful lot of money. but we've known this is happening the scheme. the hmrc boston april was 80 systems open to abuse. and i'm just boston april was 80 systems open to abuse. and i'mjust not boston april was 80 systems open to abuse. and i'm just not sure what is been done to stop it —— the hmrc boss said in april the system was subject to. you have millions of
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employers phoning up, wanting support, it is hard to weed out the fraudsters, but this is a problem they have known about. they set up a whistle—blowing they have known about. they set up a whistle— blowing hotline they have known about. they set up a whistle—blowing hotline earlier in december which i think has had about 8000 calls and hmrc have said they are chasing up cases on that. they really need to do that and start making an example of people to deter any future abuse, especially now we've got the newjob support scheme in place. that a lot of phone calls. idid not in place. that a lot of phone calls. i did not realise it was so high. let's finish on the daily mirror, looking at the same story, just a different angle. my goodness, marcus rashford, he's got his mum into help ata rashford, he's got his mum into help at a food bank. what a day makes, yesterday's vote and we've got this today. he is speaking for semi —— so —— so many people. his mum melanie there. what a great photo opportunity. what a campaign. yeah, he was given an mbe less than a
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fortnight ago, and here he is at loggerheads with the government again and acting with such dignity and compassion, instead of fighting with them again or... he hasjust gone out to help. i think what is difficult for me about this is that there is obviously a huge policy debate about what is the best way to make sure that hungry kids get fed. his schools providing free school meals year—round the best way to do it? are there other ways that we should do it? what's difficult about this debate is it has ascended to, on the one hand, people of the good free school meals should be year—round our angels and everybody else, even if they have another plan to tackle child hunger, it's about evil and should not be given quarter. and i would like to see a proper debate about how you tackle child poverty. but the look, what
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the daily star has picked up on, and they've done something... they posted a picture of the house of commons members dining room menu and, yeah, claire, you talk us through what this paper has done because it is quite clever in a way, pointing out how they have pinpointed especially the cost, the prices, some of these rather very nice looking meals. yes, it is quite a clever way to contrast the two stories, isn't it? you will have to forgive me, i have not got the price list in front of me, but when you contrast that against somebody like marcus rashford and his mum at a food bank, and we know food banks have been used in huge numbers since the start of the pandemic for sub i think there was a study last week that half of people going to them had not been to them before, so it is quite a clever way to tackle the story, and we have had some attention on the commons restaurant
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and the commons bars for perhaps not following their own restrictions quite as closely as they should have, so a clever ploy by the paper to show that contrast, i would say. the daily star, for anybody who will not beginning a copy tomorrow, wind... quitea not beginning a copy tomorrow, wind... quite a good price! poly, claire, thank you so much for talking us through tomorrow's editions of the front pages. as always, lovely to see you. have a very good evening, what's left to it. as always, if you would like to get in touch, the hashtag is #bbcpapers. good evening. i'm katie shanahan with your latest sports news. and we'll start with
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the europa league, as arsenal came from behind to beat rapid vienna in their opening group game. it was the first time mikel arteta's side had played in front of a crowd this season too, with 3,000 home fans in vienna. and they had a reason to cheer early in the second half after this poor defensive mistake from bernd leno and david luiz put rapid into the lead. luiz chalked that off soon after to make things level, before captain pierre emerick aubameyang scored the winner to give arsenal their first away win in the europa league. i really liked the reaction. i think in the second half, we understand much better the spaces we have to attack. we played with more purpose. we generated much more. we conceded a late chance with a misunderstanding at the back, but i think in general, we scored two good goals, the second one was fantastic, and we are delighted to start the face with a victory.
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tottenham had to face austrian opponents too, but they had a much more comfortable evening. they beat lask 3—0. hueng—min son scored their third. leicester, too, had a simple enough night as they beat ukrainian side zorya luhansk 3—0. kelechi iheanacho set up the first two, before scoring their third. rangers also got off to a winning start with a 2—0 win over standard liege — crowds in belgium for that one too. and they saw this sumptuous finish from keemar roofe — best goal of the night and a memorable way to secure the victory for the scottish side. no three points for celtic, though. they lost 3—1 to ac milan. mohammed elyounoussi got them back into the game at 2—1, but despite the late pressure, the current serie a leaders made it three with a late goal from yens petter huger. wales have won their latest european championship qualifier after beating the faroe islands at rodney parade. they started slowly and were 1—0 up at halftime, but two goals
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from natasha harding and this one from lily woodham gave them a 4—0 victory, closing the gap on group c leaders norway to four points. time for a quick round—up of the day's other sports stories. and british cyclist tayo gaygan hart is just 15 seconds off the lead at the giro d'italia after finishing second on stage 18. he was pipped to the line by the australian jai hindley. gaygan hart is now up to third in the standings. dan martin is up to second at the vuelta a espana after winning stage 3. the irishman battling up the final climb ahead of race leader primoz roglitch and richard carapaz britain's cameron norrie was beaten by world number 19 milos raonic in the second round of the european 0pen in antwerp. a second set tie—break handed raonic the win. now onto rugby union, and england's match against the barbarians at twickenham
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on sunday could be cancelled. it's after some of the barbarian players breached covid protocols, leaving their hotel bubble last night without permission. they have been separated from the rest of the squad and will miss the game. the rfu say that they'll make a decision by 3pm tomorrow. more from our rugby union correspondent chris jones. as many, i understand, as 12 barbarians players have an axe from the slot after breaching covid protocols. they all signed up to a strict covid code of conduct not to leave their hotel apart from training, basically, but as many as 12 of them went out to a restaurant last night. that meant they were at risk of infection according to the barbarians and the rugby football union, so all 12 of them, mainly the players from saracens, also the former and then captain involved, they won't be playing, sunday. now they won't be playing, sunday. now the barbarians are desperately trying to find some new players who have to also be covid free and have
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to have gone through the testing protocols as well, so maybe players from the scotland camp, from the rails camp, get a last—minute sos to play for the barbarians. that game on sunday up in the air. it's all thrown up into turmoil now. and barbarians desperately trying to fill a squad to play the fixture. 11 wasps players will be unavailable for their premiership final against exeter on saturday. wasps were only given the green light to play the match yesterday, after revealing they've been hit badly by coronavirus with players either testing positive or having to self—isolate. head coach lee blackett says four players would have been in his matchday squad. the safety of our players and more important than any rugby game. in our players are family, so if we feel someone has spent too long or too close contact with other people, yes, it's got wrenching for this players to miss finals, especially when they tested negative themselves, but the health and
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safety of our players and our staff and our families is safety of our players and our staff and ourfamilies is more important. and that of exeter as well. and the 2020 super league grand final will be played at the kcom stadium in hull a week on friday, the first time it's not been held at old trafford. meanwhile, there were two matches in rugby league's superleague tonight. in the late game, wakefield beat hudderfield by 18—14. earlier, castleford beat hull kr 32-18. castleford dominated and ran in five tries to hull kr's three, the last claimed by greg eden with his second of the match. that's all of the sport. bye for now. hello there. thursday brought us a break from the rather unsettled run of weather we've seen. there was some sunshine to get out and about and enjoy some of the rather spectacular autumn colours on offer, but it was just
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a short weather window because, looking out in the atlantic, this swirl of cloud you can see here is the next area of low pressure that's going to be bringing rain across our shores for friday. and then further west, a developing area of low pressure. that's going to rapidly deepen to bring some strong winds across the uk this weekend. so, before we get there, a lot of cloud around at the moment. we've got some patches of rain working across from southwest england into the midlands, east anglia, probably see some in the southeast as well, and then this more general area of rain that's bringing some wet weather to northern ireland. that's moving into scotland, western parts of england and wales early friday morning, before pushing eastwards. notice, though, the rain band does weaken significantly. there might be some areas across the midlands that escaped the rain band altogether. same is true across east anglia and the southeast, with just perhaps a few patches of rain here and there to take us through the afternoon. it is an improving weather story, though, because for most of the northwest of the uk, we'll see some sunnier weather with just a few showers, mainly confined to the west coast of scotland through friday afternoon. the winds then start to pick up
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as we head through friday night. areas of rain begin to spread in and that really is what's on the menu for saturday. a very gusty day with some heavy rain moving its way eastwards. sunshine and showers will then follow for many of us as we head into the afternoon. here is our band of rain. notice some pretty gusty winds to start the day, then, for scotland and northern ireland, but it's actually on and ahead of this weather front that the winds will get really strong for a time across wales and across england. it's going to be quite a short—lived, squally band of rain, so intense downpours and some strong gusts of wind. they could be strong enough to bring down a few tree branches. we could see some localised disruption out and about, the weather getting cooler into the northwest as those sunny conditions arrive across scotland and northern ireland but with some showers packed in as well. it stays quite windy, really, on sunday. generally a day of sunshine and showers, but close to the low pressure in the northwest, those showers will be frequent. showers won't just stay around coastal areas of england and wales. there's actually a trough moving through, so those showers will be
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