tv US Election 2020 BBC News October 23, 2020 9:30pm-10:01pm BST
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this is bbc world news, the headlines. several countries in europe have reported coronavirus infection rates higher than during the first wave of the pandemic in the spring. in france, the government has imposed an overnight curfew on two—thirds of the country which will operate for the next six weeks. in the uk, a national lockdown has hit 3 million people in wales in an effort to reduce coronavirus. the country is under full restrictions now, for the next 16 days. us president donald trump has announced that sudan will normalize diplomatic relations with israel — the third arab state to do so in two months. mr trump also said he expected saudi arabia to follow soon. nigeria's president muhammadu buhari has said at least 69 people have been killed during days of protests against police brutality. the deaths were mainly civilians,
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but also include police officers and soldiers. at ten o'clock reeta chakrabati will be here with a full round up of the days news. first on bbc news — we focus on the us election with highlights from last night's final presidential debate between president trump and his democrat rivaljoe biden. good evening from belmont university in nashville, tennessee. i'm kristen welker of nbc news, and i welcome good evening from belmont university in nashville, tennessee. i'm kristen welker of nbc news, and i welcome you to the final 2020 presidential debate between president donald] trump and former vice presidentjoe biden. so, as you know, 2.2 million people
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modeled out were expected to die. we closed up the greatest economy in the world in order to fight this horrible disease that came from china. it's a worldwide pandemic, it's all over the world. you see the spikes in europe and many other places right now. if you notice, the mortality rate is down 85%. the excess mortality rate is way down and much lower than almost any other country. and we're fighting it and we're fighting it hard. there is a spike. there was a spike in florida and it's now gone. there was a very big spike in texas. it's now gone. there was a very big spike in arizona. it's now gone. and there were some spikes and surges in other places. they will soon be gone. we have a vaccine that's coming, it's ready, it's going to be announced within weeks and it's going to be delivered. we have operation warp speed, which is the military is going to distribute the vaccine.
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i can tell you from personal experience that i was in the hospital, i had it and i got better. and i will tell you that i had something that they gave me. a therapeutic, i guess they would call it. some people could say it was a cure, but i was in for a short period of time and i got better very fast or i wouldn't be here tonight. and now they say i'm immune, whether it's four months or a lifetime, nobody‘s been able to say that, but i'm immune. more and more people are getting better. we have a problem that's a worldwide problem. this is a worldwide problem. but i've been congratulated by the heads of many countries on what we've been able to do with the... if you take a look at what we've done in terms of goggles and masks and gowns and everything else, and in particular ventilators, we're now making ventilators all over the world, thousands and thousands a month, distributing them all over the world. it will go away, and as i say, we're rounding the turn, we're rounding the corner. it's going away.
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220,000 americans dead. if you hear nothing else i say tonight, hear this — anyone who is responsible for not taking control, in fact not saying i take no responsibility initially. anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as president of the united states of america. we're in a situation where there are a thousand deaths a day now. a thousand deaths a day. and there are over 70,000 new cases per day. compared to what's going on in europe, as the new england medicaljournal said, they're starting from a very low rate. we're starting from a very high rate. the expectation is we'll have another 200,000 americans dead between now and the end of the year. if we just wore these masks — the president's own adviser told him — we could save a 100,000 lives. and we're in a circumstance
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where the president thus far and still has no plan, no comprehensive plan. what i would do is make sure we have everyone encouraged to wear a mask all the time. i would make sure we move in the direction of rapid testing, investing in rapid testing. i would make sure that we set up national standards as to how to open up schools and open up businesses so they can be safe and give them the wherewithal, the financial resources to be able to do that. we're in a situation now where... the new england medicaljournal, one of the most serious journals in the whole world, said for the first time ever that this the way this president has responded to this crisis has been absolutely tragic. and so, folks, i will take care of this. i will end this. i will make sure we have a plan. what i would say is i'm going to shut down the virus, not the country. it's his ineptitude that caused the the country to have to shut down in large part, why businesses have gone under, why schools are closed,
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why so many people have lost their living and why they're concerned. those other concerns are real. that's why he should have been, instead of in a sand trap at his golf course, he should have been negotiating with nancy pelosi and the rest of the democrats and republicans about what to do about the acts they were passing for billions of dollars to make sure people had the capacity. you haven't ruled out more shutdowns? no, i'm not shutting down... but there are... look, you need standards. the standard is if, you have a reproduction rate in a community that's above a certain level, everybody says slow up, more social distancing, do not open bars and do not open gymnasiums. do not open until you get this under control, under more control. but when you do open, give the people the capacity to be able to open and have the capacity to do it safely. for example, schools — schools, they need a lot of money to open. they need to deal with ventilation systems, they need to deal with smaller classes, more teachers, more pods. and he's refused to support that money. or at least up to now.
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let's talk about schools. president trump... well, i think i have to respond, if i might? please. and then i have a follow—up... thank you and i appreciate that. look, all he does is talk about shutdowns, but forget about him. his democrat governors cuomo in new york, you look at what's going on in california, you look at pennsylvania, north carolina, democrats, democrats, all, they're shut down so tight and they're dying. they're dying. and he supports all these people. all he talks about is shutdowns. no, we're not going to shutdown and we have to open our schools and it's like as an example, i have a young son. he also tested positive. by the time i spoke to the doctor the second time, he was fine. it just went away. young people, i guess it's their immune system. let me follow up with you, president trump. you've demanded schools open in person and insist they can do it safely. butjust yesterday, boston became the latest city to move its public school system entirely online
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after a coronavirus spike. what is your message to parents who worry that sending their children to school will endanger not only their kids, but also their teachers and families? i want to open the schools, the transmittal rate to the teachers is very small, but i want to open the schools. we have to open our country. we're not going to have a country. you can't do this. we can't keep this country closed. this a massive country with a massive economy. people are losing theirjobs, they're committing suicide. there's depression, alcohol, drugs at a level that nobody‘s ever seen before. there's abuse, tremendous abuse. we have to open our country. you know, i've said it often — the cure cannot be worse than the problem itself. and that's what's happening. and he wants to close down... he'll close down the country if one person in our in our massive bureaucracy says we should close it down. i have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life. we learned that this president paid 50 times the tax in china, has a secret bank account with china,
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does business in china and, in fact, is talking about me taking money? i have not taken a single penny from any country whatsoever, ever. numberone. number two, this is a president... i have released all of my tax returns. 22 years. go look at them. 22 years of my tax return. you have not released a single solitary year of your tax returns. what are you hiding? why are you unwilling? the foreign countries are paying you a lot. russia is paying you a lot, china is paying a lot. and your hotels and all your businesses all around the country, all around the world. and china is building a new road to a golf course you have overseas. so what's going on here? why don't you release your tax return and stop talking about corruption? president trump, your response? first of all, i called my accountants, underwrote it. i'm going to release them as soon as we can. i want to do it. and it'll show how successful, how great this company is.
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but much more importantly than that, people were saying, "$750". i asked them a week ago, isaid, "what did i pay?" they said, "sir, you prepaid tens of millions of dollars." i prepaid my tax. i have many bank accounts and they're all listed and they're all over the place. i mean, i was a businessman doing business, the bank account you're referring to, which is everybody knows about it, it's listed. the bank account was in 2013. that's what it was. it was open in... it was closed in 2015, i believe. and then i decided, because i was going to do... i was thinking about doing a deal in china, like millions of other people. i was thinking about it and i decided, "i'm not going to do it." i didn't like it. i decided not to do it. i had an account open and i closed it. 0k... excuse me. and then, unlike him, where he's vice president and he does business, i then decided to run for president after that. that was before. so i closed it before i even ran for president, let
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alone became president. big difference. he is the vice president of the united states and his son, his brother and his other brother are getting rich. they're like a vacuum cleaner they're sucking up money... 0k, president trump, thank you. not true. we do need to move on. i do want to ask you, vice president biden, about china. let's talk about china more broadly. there have, of course... president trump has said that they should pay for not being fully transparent in regards to the coronavirus. if you were president, would you make china pay? and please be specific — what would that look like? what i'd make china do is play by the international rules, not like he has done. he has caused the deficit with china to go up, not down. with china — up, not down. we are making sure that in order to do business in china, you have to give all your intellectual property, you have to have a partner, and in china it is 51%. we would not do that at all — number one. number two, we're in a situation where china would have to play
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by the rules internationally as well. when i met with xi and when i was still vice president, he said, "we're setting up air identification zones in the in the south china sea. you can't fly through them." i said, "we're going to fly through them." we just flew b52 b1 bombers through it. we're not going to pay attention. they have to play by the rules. and what does he do? he embraces guys like the thugs, like in north korea and the chinese president and putin and others and he poke his fingers in the eye of all of our friends, all of our allies. we make up only... we're 25%, 25% of the world's economy. we need to be having the rest of our friends with us saying to china, "these are the rules. you play by them or you're going to pay the price for not paying by them economically. " that's the way i will run it and that's what we did in upholding steel tariffs on a range of other things when we were president and vice president. all right, let's talk about north korea... oh, no, no! excuse me, no, i have to respond to that.
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0k, very quickly and then we're going to move on to north korea. his son walked out with $1.5 billion from china... not true. ..after spending ten minutes in office and being in air force two — number one. number two, there's a very strong email talking about your family wanting to make $10 million a year for introductions. president trump, on china policy, though, what specifically are you going to do, what specifically are you going to do to make china pay? you've said you're going to make them pay. first of all, china is paying. they're paying billions and billions of dollars. new sanctions? ijust gave $28 billion to ourfarmers... taxpayer's money. that's what? taxpayers' money. didn't come from china. i know who the taxpayer is. it's called china. not true. china paid 28 billion. and you know what they did to pay it, joe? they devalued their currency and they also paid up. and, you know, who got the money? ourfarmers, our great farmers because they were targeted. you never charged them anything. also, i charged them 25% on dumped steel because they were killing our steel industry. we were not going to have a steel industry...
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0k. ..and now we have a steel industry. vice president biden, your response, please? my response is, look, this isn't about... there's a reason why he's bringing up all this malarkey. there's a reason for it. he doesn't want to talk about the substantive issues. it's not about his family and my family. it's about your family, and your family's hurting badly. if you're making less than... if you're a middle class family, you're getting hurt badly right now. you're sitting at the kitchen table this morning deciding, "well, we can't get new tyres, because we have to wait another month or so," or, "are we going to be able to pay the mortgage?" 0r, "who's going to tell her she can't go back to community college?" they're the decisions you're making in the middle class families like i grew up in scranton and claymont. they're in trouble. we should be talking about your families, but that's the last thing he wants to talk about. i want to talk about north korea. excuse me, just for one second. ten seconds, mr president. that's a typical political statement. let's get off this china thing. and then he looks, the family around the table. just a typical politician when i see that.
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let's talk about north korea... i'm not a typical politician. that's why i got elected. let's get off the subject of china and let's talk around sitting around the table. all right. come on, joe, you can do better. we're going to talk about north korea now. president trump, you've met with north korean leader kim jong—un three times. you've talked about your beautiful letters with him. you've touted the fact that there hasn't been a war or a long—range missile test. and yet north korea recently rolled out its biggest ever intercontinental ballistic missile and continues to develop its nuclear arsenal. do you see that as a betrayal of the relationship? no. just 30 seconds here, because we need to get onto the next question. when i met with barack obama, we sat in the white house, right at the beginning, had a great conversation, was supposed to be 15 minutes, and it was well over an hour. he said the biggest problem we have is north korea. he indicated we will be at a war with north korea. guess what? it would be a nuclear war. and he does have plenty of nuclear capability. in the meantime, i have a very good relationship with him, different
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kind of a guy, but he probably thinks the same thing about me. we have a different kind of a relationship. we have a very good relationship and there's no war. and, you know, about two months ago, he broke into a certain area. they said, "oh, there's going to be trouble." i said, "no, they're not, because he's not going to do that." and i was right. look, instead of being in a war where millions of people... seoul, you know, is 25 miles away. millions and millions, 32 million people in seoul. millions of people would be dead right now. 0k, president trump, that's 30 seconds. thank you. vice president biden to you. north korea conducted four nuclear tests under the obama administration. why do you think you would be able to rein in this persistent threat? because i'd make it clear, which we we're making clear to china they had to be part of the deal, because here's the reason. i made it clear as spokesperson when i went to china that they said, "why are you moving your missile defense up so close? why are you moving more forces here? why are you continue to do military manoeuvers with south korea?" i said because north korea is a problem and we're going to continue to do it so we can control them.
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we're going to make sure we can control them and make sure they cannot hurt us. and so if you want to do something about it, step up and help. if not, it's going to continue. what has he done? he's legitimised north korea. he's talked about his good buddy who's a thug, a thug, and he talks about how we're better off, and they have much more capable missiles able to reach us territory much more easily —— than they ever did before. you know, my daughter is a social worker and she's written a lot about this. she has her graduate degree from the university of pennsylvania in social work. and, you know, one of the reasons why i ended up working on the east side of wilmington, delaware, which is 90% african—american, was to learn more about what was going on. i never had to tell my daughter if she's pulled over, make sure... for a traffic stop, put both hands on top of the wheel and don't reach for the glove box because someone may shoot you.
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but a black parent, no matter how wealthy or how poor they are, has to teach their child. when you're walking down the street, don't have a hoodie on. when you go across the street. making sure that you, in fact, if you get pulled over, "yes, sir", or "no, sir." hands on top of the wheel, because you are, in fact, the victim, whether you're a person making $300,000 a year or someone who's on food stamps. the fact of the matter is there is institutional racism in america. and we have always said... we've never lived up to it, that we hold these truths to be self—evident. all men and women are created equal. guess what? we have never, ever lived up to it, but we've all constantly been moving the needle further and further to inclusion, not exclusion. this is the first president to come along and says, "that's the end of that. we're not going to do that any more." we have to provide for economic opportunity, better education, better health care, better access to schooling, better access
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to opportunity to borrow money to start businesses — all the things we can do. and i've laid out a clear plan as to how to do those things just to give people a shot. it's about accumulating the ability to have wealth as well as it is to be free from violence. president trump, same question to you, and let me remind you of the question i would like you to speak directly to these families. do you understand why these parents fearfor their children? yes, i do. and again, he's been in government 47 years. he never did a thing except in 1994 when he did such harm to the black community. and they were called and he called them super predators. and he said that, he said it super predators and they have never lived that down. 1994, your crime bill, the super predators. nobody has done more for the black community than donald trump. and if you look, with the exception of abraham lincoln, possible
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exception, but the exception of abraham lincoln, nobody has done what i've done. criminaljustice reform — obama and joe didn't do it. i don't even think they tried because they had no chance at doing it. they might have wanted to do it. but if you had to see the arms i had a twist to get that done, it was not a pretty picture. and everybody knows it, including some very liberal people that cried in my office. they cried in the oval office. two weeks later, they're out saying, gee, we have to defeat him. criminaljustice reform, prison reform, opportunity zones with tim scott, a great senator from south carolina. he came in with this incredible idea for opportunity zones. it's one of the most successful programmes. people don't talk about it. tremendous investment is being made. biggest beneficiary — the black and hispanic communities. and then historically black colleges and universities. after three years of coming to the office... i love some of those guys. they were great.
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they came into the office and i said, what are you doing after three years? i said, why do you keep coming back? because we have no funding. i said, you don't have to come back every year. we have to come back because president obama would never give them long term funding. and i did, ten year, long term funding and i gave them more money than they asked for because they said, ithink you need more. and i said, the only bad part about this is i may never see you again because i got very friendly with them. i do love the environment, but what i want is crystal clear water, the cleanest air we have, the best, lowest number in carbon emissions, which is a big standard that i notice obama goes with all the time, notjoe. i haven't heard joe use the term because i'm not sure he knows what it represents or means. but i have heard obama use it and we have the best carbon emission numbers that we've had in 35 years under this administration.
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we are working so well with industry, but here's what we can't do. look at china, how filthy it is. look at russia. look at india. it's filthy. the air is filthy. the paris accord — i took us out because we were going to have to spend trillions of dollars and we were treated very unfairly. when they put us in there, they did us a great disservice. they were going to take away our businesses. i will not sacrifice tens of millions ofjobs, thousands and thousands of companies because of the paris accord. it was so unfair. china doesn't kick in until 2030. climate change and climate warming. global warming is an existential threat to humanity. we have a moral obligation to do with it. and we're told by all the leading scientists in the world, we don't have much time. we're going to pass the point of no return with the next eight, ten years. four more years of this man eliminating all the regulations that were put in by us to clean up the climate, to clean up, to limit
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the limit of emissions, will put us in a position where we are going to be in real trouble. here's where we have a great opportunity. i was able to get both all the environmental organisations as well as labour, the people worried aboutjobs, to support my climate imagine this is inauguration day. we have to make our country totally successful as it was prior to the plague coming in from finer. —— china. we are rebuilding it and do in record numbers, millions of jobs that i will tell you, go back, before the plague came in just before, i was getting calls from people who are not lame people that would gamma me. —— not normally people that would call me. they wanted to get together, we had the best black people, women,
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hispanic, people with diplomas, with no diplomas, mit graduates number one in their class, everyone had the best numbers and the other side wanted to get together, wanted to unify. success is going to bring us together, we are on the road to success but i am cutting taxes and he wants to raise everyone‘s taxes and put regulations on everything. he will kill it. if he gets in you will have a depression of the likes you have never seen before. it would be a very sad day for this country. vice president biden, what will you say during your your inaugural address to americans who did not vote for you? i would say i am an american president, representing all of you whether you voted for me or against me and i will make sure you are represented, i will give you help, we will move, choose a science over fiction, hope over fear. we will choose to move forward because an enormous opportunity
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to make things better. we can grow this economy, deal with the systemic racism and at the same time we can make sure that our economy is being run and moved and motivated by clean energy, creating millions of newjobs. and that is the fact, that is what we are going to do and i will say like i said at the beginning, what is on the ballot here is the character of this country, decency, honour, respect, treating people with dignity, making sure everyone has an even chance. i will make sure you get that. you haven't been getting it last four years. i want to thank you both for a robust hour and a half, a fantastic debate. really appreciate it. president trump, former vice presidentjoe biden.
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hello there. it looks very unsettled this weekend, and into next week as well. notjust the spells of rain, but some stronger winds too. on friday we had this band of cloud bringing patchy rain eastwards. the cloud streaming in from the atlantic behind it is more substantial. that's going to bring wet and windy weather on saturday. that will push its way eastwards. soon clearing northern ireland moving across scotland into england and wales after a bright start for eastern parts of england. now, this rain is likely to be heavierfor a while. there could be a short sharp burst of quite intense rain together with some squally winds. and it will be a windier day on saturday. the strongest winds will be in that rain as we get sunshine and showers the following on in the northwest the winds do start to ease a bit the afternoon. 11 or 12 degrees here ahead of the rain in the southeast at 17 celsius. the wet weather does arrive in the southeast areas later on in the day, and it still could be quite heavy before moving away overnight. we still keep that area of low pressure close to the
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northwest of the uk. so this is where we will have the widest, windiest weather on sunday. elsewhere, there will be some sunshine and showers. some will get blown england but most of the showers will be affecting southern and western parts of england together with wales. and the air is a bit colder on sunday, so temperatures will be lower, around 11 to 11; celsius. let's head into the new week and we've got that area of low pressure still sitting across northern parts of the uk. now, it's becoming less deep so the winds are tending to lessen around it, but for a while we still got blustery winds blowing showers into northern ireland, across scotland and into england and wales. some of these will be heavy and potentially sundry two. there will be some sunshine between the showers, and the showers do tend to ease off during the afternoon. but those temperatures don't change very much, still 12 to 11; celsius. move things onto tuesday and we've got quite a broadband of cloud at this stage sweeping some outbreaks of rain eastwards across the uk. and the winds will be
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strengthened as well later on, especially in the northwest. temperatures about 13 or 11; degrees. let me take you back into the atlantic and much further south. this area of cloud is hurricane epsilon, that's been close to bermuda. that is going to get swept northwards, this is the forecast track of that storm, that hurricane. it will begin of course, it engages thejet stream and the remnants of that merge with this deep area of low pressure which is strengthening the winds on tuesday. particularly into wednesday is that area of low pressure gets closer to the northwest of the uk. so it will be windy on wednesday. gales particularly across western areas, perhaps severe gales in the northwest. there will be a lot of cloud blown in, and there will be some frequent and perhaps heavy showers heading our way as well. and again those temperatures are around 11 to 13 degrees on wednesday. let's look further ahead and that deep low remains to the northwest of scotland. and it feels so begins and we are going to find this stream of air from the atlantic bringing some strong winds and more rain particularly in the west.
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later on, next week, it weather pattern looks slightly different because the jet stream is buckling. and as it drives northwards it pushes areas of low pressure to the west of the uk following high—pressure to build and more from continental europe. that will start to change things by the end of the week. broadly speaking, it still unsettled with some for the rate at times and stronger winds. southeastern areas by the end of the week and into the weekend could be turning dryer, brighter and also, hopefully, a bit warmer.
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tonight at ten... large swathes of the country come under tougher coronavirus measures with a full national lockdown starting in wales. over three million people there — whether in a high or low infection area will be under full restrictions now for the next 16 days. england are doing like the tier lockdown, which makes more sense to me. it's not the greatest thing as a business owner, but i think we probably need a longer, more meaningful lockdown if we are going to take that route. it comes as the latest figures show a continued rise in infections across the uk. also tonight: scotland is to introduce five new tiers of restrictions from november 2nd — different areas are waiting to see where they'll be. in england, south yorkshire will at midnight go into the toughest tier.
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