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this is bbc news. the headlines at 6pm: police are dealing with an ongoing incident aboard an oil tanker off the coast of the isle of wight. more pressure on the government, as thousands of doctors back the footballer marcus rashford's campaign for free school meals during the school holidays in england. after a public backlash, the welsh government says it will review its ban on supermarkets selling non—essential items during the country's lockdown. the new well—being hubs designed to help nhs staff cope with the stress of battling covid, as fears grow of a mental health crisis amongst health workers. lewis hamilton makes history as he breaks the record for the most formula 1 wins ever — the british driver took the title from michael schumacher at the grand prix in portugal.
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hello, good evening, welcome if you have just joined hello, good evening, welcome if you havejustjoined us. police are continuing to deal with an ongoing incident on board an oil tanker situated off the isle of wight. the tanker, named in reports as the liberian—registered nave andromeda, had been due to dock in southampton earlier. hampshire constabulary said: "we are aware and dealing with an ongoing incident on board a vessel which is situated south of the isle of wight." the maritime coastguard agency said it is assisting police and search and rescue helicopters, two, are at the scene. our correspondent duncan kennedy gave us this update. there are a few more details coming out this
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evening about this vessel, the andromeda, which is about five miles off the coast of the isle of wight behind me. they ship, as you heard, was on route from lagos in nigeria to southampton with a cargo of oil. it was due to dock in southampton at about 10:30 this morning. at around nine o'clock, this incident unfolded. sources have told the bbc that the crew on board the andromeda were are aware of stowaways on board. but this morning at 9am, some or all of those stowaways became violent towards the crew. it's not known how many stowaways were involved. sources told the bbc the crew then took refuge in something called a citadel, which is a safe, secure area on board a ship that ships have as part of their infrastructure and they take refuge from things like pirates on the high seas. it's not known whether there was any kind of stand—off incident between the crew and these stowaways. it's not known the numbers
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involved, whether there was actually any violence offered. once inside the secure room, the crew in the shape —— ship contacted the coastguard, who then sent up not one but two helicopters to go out and track the ship back. it's not known if those helicopters are still out there or whether this is an ongoing incident. what we do know is that the home office are well aware of what's going on and the ministry of defence have said there is no military involvement in this incident, so far as they are concerned. separately, the bbc has contacted the owners of this ship, which is a greek shipping line, and they say this is 100% not a hijacking. it's not clear where or how those stowaways got on board, whether there was one of them or more or why they suddenly, in the words of this source, turn violent towards the crew. the ship itself was about an hour or so from docking in southampton, where it would have off—loaded its oil.
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it's not clear yet whether it is back on route or if this incident off the isle of wight is still unfolding. and presumably, duncan, this is a relatively routine journey for oil to undergo, such a long journey and for tankers to be in and out of there on a regular basis. so the fact this tanker suddenly apparently stranded off the coast must have raised quite a lot of concern for people, even if they didn't know, as we still don't, what's going on? no, exactly right. it is an extremely unusual incident. there was some suggestion by one or two media outlets that they might be migrants trying to get into the uk. not confirmed by any source we spoke to at all. how they got on board in lagos, we don't know. and we don't know how long the crew have known these stowaways were on board. that is the suggestion from the source we have been speaking to, that the crew were aware they were on board and presumably were waiting to dock in southampton for the authorities
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to take control of that. at some point, perhaps as they neared southampton, the stowaways or stowaway had other ideas and decided to take matters into their own hands. but, so far as our source is concerned, they say the crew took refuge in this citadel, so there is no suggestion from that source that any of the crew have been harmed. but whether the stowaway or stowaways have been able to do anything with the ship or are just outside this room, those details are not yet clear. bob sanguinetti is the chief executive of the uk chamber of shipping and former a commodore in the royal navy. thank you very much for being with us on thank you very much for being with us on bbc news. the first thing to ask you is what you've been able to establish about what was going on and what might still be going on board the tanker? i think your reporter duncan has outlined where the situation appears to be but of course, most of it is based on second or third hand information.
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what we do know is the ship comedy andromeda, sailed from nigeria some three weeks ago. it appears there we re three weeks ago. it appears there were a number of stowaways on board. crucially, we don't know what their motive is. it could be something as straightforward as seeking political asylu m straightforward as seeking political asylum in the uk or it could be something more sinister. but what is clear is at some stage, the crew became aware of these stowaways on board, felt to an extent threatened and therefore locked themselves up in the citadel. so primary concern has to be for the safety of the crew and there could be anywhere between 15-20 and there could be anywhere between 15—20 crew members on—board the greek owned ship. of course, the safety of the ship itself other ships in the vicinity will also be a concern to the authorities dealing with the situation at the moment. concern to the authorities dealing with the situation at the momentlj suppose with the situation at the moment.” suppose this is the kind of situation where you want to take your time situation where you want to take yourtime are situation where you want to take your time are not kind of rush into dealing and reacting to what may be
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happening on board if you are the authorities trying to bring this to authorities trying to bring this to a peaceful conclusion without anybody getting hurt. on board a tanker like this, you say maybe 20 crew, it's a huge vessel, isn't it? what sort of security measures have to be in place under international law? it's not a british vessel, but what kind of obligations are on the master of the vessel for alerting authorities are making sure it's secure? the ship would have to comply with international regulations in this case on security. they would be obliged to ta ke security. they would be obliged to take security measures to sure that the risk... the ship does not expose itself to any undue risk. that would happen both when the ship is in port and when it is under way. clearly, these stowaways have managed to get on board somehow but once that happens, again, these ships have measures in place to deal with that, as it appears to be the case in this
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particular instance, where once the ship and crew became aware of the presence of the migrants or stowaways, they took refuge in the citadel and alerted the authorities. whether they did so at the earliest opportunity or not, we will find out in the fullness of time. clearly, they felt threatened, in order to have led themselves to lock themselves up in the citadel and alert the authorities. so the authorities at the moment, it appears to be in the hands of the police force. they will be weighing up police force. they will be weighing up the risks to the crew members, to the ship and other ships in the area and at some stage they might feel that that level of risk has risen to an that that level of risk has risen to a n exte nt that that level of risk has risen to an extent where they need to take action. but, of course, they will wa nt to action. but, of course, they will want to leave that as a last resort and they will use whatever measures necessary to bring the situation under control. taking action, presumably by which you mean boarding the vessel and overpowering
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those in control of it. presumably that kind of thing, you have to weigh against that the potential danger to the crew and potential threat of injuries and fatalities of the people you're trying to contain. and this is an oil tanker, an potential explosive substance on board, quite a serious incident at see if it's not handled very cautiously? that is absolutely right. the fact the ship has been in the facility altering because every so often for a number of hours now suggests that there might be dialogue taking place between the stowaways and the authorities to try and reach an agreement, a solution to this situation. in the meantime, the authorities, the police and the military, if the military is involved, although we don't know that for a fact, they will be weighing up those risks. but this is nothing new. this is something that security forces, both police and military, our trained for. they have
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procedures in place, they are well versed in procedures, they can carry out such boardings i do with compliant crew members and others on board or opposed boarding, which they could do using boats or helicopters and so on. but, of course, the risks would increase once that decision is taken to move once that decision is taken to move on to that level of activity, but they are weighed up against other risks that the crew all the ship or the environment, as you suggest with a ship carrying oil, might be exposed to. so tough times, no doubt negotiations taking place and contingency plans being drawn up. reuters news agency reminding us of an incident in december 2018 where british forces stormed an italian ship, ithink british forces stormed an italian ship, i think i am right, which had been taken over by stowaways to try and regain control. presumably, they have experience of doing this kind
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of thing, boarding vessels and taking control of their need to? that is right, they do have experience of it and practise it on a regular basis because these things do happen, despite the best intentions of ship owners and crew members implementing security measures that they feel are necessary and the environment of the moment. in this case, clearly these stowaways have got on board and appear to have turned nasty or violent, we don't know whether they are armed. so the authorities will be weighing up the risks as we speak. thank you very much for being with us on bbc news. that incident i referred to off the coast was off the coast of the south—east of england in december 2018. so kind of releva nt to england in december 2018. so kind of relevant to the sort of the part of the country we are talking about now. we will bring you more on that as we get it during the course of this evening on news.
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a government minister has defended the decision not to extend free school meals to disadvantaged children over the school holidays. brandon lewis said providing support through local councils was "the right way" to help struggling families during the pandemic. pressure is mounting on the government from many sides, including more than 2,000 doctors who have signed a letter saying england should follow scotland, wales and northern ireland in further funding meals outside of term time. here's our political correspondent fiona trott. i'll show you what i've got in the fridge. when planning ahead still isn't enough. so, this is just what i've got to last me until payday. claire is a single mum of three and she says without free school meal vouchers, this week will be a struggle. i'm really anxious because i'm just like, have i got enough that's going to last until i get that payment on the last day of the month when i can go and do my shopping? you know, it is very stressful, very ha rd. there are parents like claire across the uk, and businesses who want to help. this cafe in cornwall is making free lunch bags for children —
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a community response to a political decision not to extend free school meals in england. it's complementary to what we are doing as a government. we are supportive of that. we support local authorities to do it — that's what the £63 million is there for, and it is notjust £63 million, of course, andrew, it is on top of hundreds of millions. but some say that's not enough. local communities are stepping in, over 2000 paediatricians stepping in, signing an open letter to the government, saying childhood hunger is not acceptable. it's that knowledge that what happens to you when you're a child affects your whole future life course, and making sure a child is well fed and well nourished is notjust about making sure they go to bed with a full tummy, although that's important, but it's making sure they grow up to be a healthy adult who has all the same opportunities anyone else would have. and it's an investment in that child's future to make sure they have good nutrition throughout their lives. footballer marcus rashford is also putting pressure on the government.
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he successfully campaigned to extend free school meals earlier this year. today, more than 800,000 people have signed his petition to do the same again. some conservative mps also want a rethink. let's remember the government did this for easter, whitson and summer and no government, let alone any labour government, has done that before. given the unprecedented circumstances of the pandemic, i think we should continue that into next year. so i think the government got it wrong and that is what i said, and i voted to abstain in this case. so you are not all having a sandwich tomorrow, then? claire's family hope the government will change its position before christmas, but like many families across england, this half—term break will be hard. fiona trott, bbc news, leeds. the headlines on bbc news: police are dealing with an ongoing incident aboard an oil tanker off the coast of the isle of wight. more pressure on the government, as thousands of doctors back
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the footballer marcus rashford's campaign for free school meals during the school holidays. after a public backlash, the welsh government says it will review its ban on supermarkets selling non—essential items during the country's two week lockdown. staying with the coronavirus pandemic now, and the two—week self—isolation period for contacts of people who test positive could be cut to ten days or even a week, the government has confirmed. it comes amid strong criticism of the test and trace programme from the senior conservative mp sir bernard jenkin. writing in the sunday telegraph, sir bernard said a "vacuum of leadership" in test and trace is affecting how far people comply with it. catherine burns reports. from the start, the message has been clear. if you've been in close contact with someone with coronavirus, you need to self—isolate for 1h days. isolate for 14 days... you must self—isolate... you must self—isolate.
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we isolate, we keep out of circulation. but now the government and its advisers are considering cutting the time frame. i know that there is work going on to look at the length of isolation. we'll be using the results from our large covid infection survey, which goes back to people over time in order to inform those discussions. people tend to show symptoms of covid—19 around 4—6 days after being exposed. it can take up to two weeks, though. so if you want to catch as many cases as possible, then the best idea is to stick to that 14—day self—isolation period. but that only works if everybody actually sticks to the rules. and a recent study found thatjust 11% of people who were asked to self—isolate for two weeks actually did it. if the evidence shows that one has to isolate for 1h days, then yes, i would isolate for 1h days. if they can prove that you're safe after seven days,
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i think it would be a much better concept, especially for schoolchildren. it was quite frustrating, especially when you get to the end of that period and you think, "she's got no symptoms, none of us have got any symptoms," so it did feel a bit long. isolation isjust one part of the test and trace system. the other elements are not without problems. it's not turning round tests quickly enough, and it's not getting through to enough close contacts of people who have tested positive. the boss, dido harding, is coming under ever—so—polite criticism by a senior tory backbencher. i do mean this as kindly as possible to her. she's been a tremendous asset. but the test and trace capability clearly needs to move up several gears, and it's what leadership does, not who leadership is, that really matters. for now, cutting isolation period down isjust an idea that's being looked at. the rules haven't changed, and people are still being asked
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to stay at home for two weeks. catherine burns, bbc news. the welsh first minister has told the bbc there will be no change to the ban on supermarkets selling nonessential items during the country's firebreak lockdown. but mark drakeford said the ban would be clarified after supermarkets were forced to close parts of their stores selling products such as clothes, shoes and toys. our wales correspondent, tomos morgan, reports. across wales, supermarkets have had to close certain aisles, and items like toys, books and electrical goods have been covered up. it's been done because the welsh government have restricted stores from selling non—essential goods. but it's led to a public outcry over this, the first weekend of the latest lockdown. and it has led to tens of thousands signing an online petition.. i think it's absolutely totally ridiculous. i get the fact that they don't want to disadvantage the small,
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independent businesses, however i do think on this occasion they got it wrong. i applaud the welsh government for introducing this fair play scheme... welsh ministers say that this rule is a matter of fairness, to smaller businesses, like this one, that have been forced to shut over the next two weeks. predominantly, we sell toys. obviously, supermarkets sell toys as well, and if they were allowed to sell and we weren't allowed to sell then that would have a dramatic effect, especially during the key selling period, because we are so close to the peak selling time of christmas. this evening, first minister mark drakeford confirmed the ruling wouldn't be changed, but said there would be clarification and discretion to its implementation following a review with retailers tomorrow. if there are some anomalies that we hadn't spotted and now have the experience of this weekend then those are the things that we would aim to put right. the basic principle won't be changed? the basic principle is really important. we must stay at home, we mustn't mix with other people and we need to stick to that for the next two weeks. ever since this announcement was made, there's been
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confusion from big retailers, and there's been a growing sense of anger and frustration amongst many online. it seems just two days into this firebreak, and the public‘s resolve in following a more stringent set of measures is already being tested. tomos morgan, bbc news, cardiff. earlier i spoke to sara jones of the welsh retail consortium and got her reaction to the news that these regulations would be reviewed. as you will know, we weren't supportive of this decision to bring these regulations and, purely because we knew it would impact our front line staff the hardest. so it's good news the welsh government is looking to review the regulations and of course we will work closely with ministers to make sure the message gets back to public health rather than this complicated and confused situation which has come about by these regulations. do you know what motivated this, the welsh
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government saying supermarkets are allowed to open because they sell food and essential items, lots of retailers who sell other stuff you can also sell in supermarkets were. closed. effectively, they are being penalised and then they could potentially be watching these big stores kind of reap the benefit? there are two answers to that. first, we don't believe nonessential stores should have been shot in the first place, there is no evidence this will have any impact on lowering the infection rate, given investments retailers have made in safety measures. secondly, this isn't just a supermarket safety measures. secondly, this isn'tjust a supermarket issue. the rhetoric is all about supermarkets at the moment. essentially, very many small convenience stores, small garden centres, they are getting hit by this policy as well because they are also essential retailers. we need to look at this and the fact it shouldn't just be need to look at this and the fact it shouldn'tjust be a focus on large business and large supermarkets. are you worried that in the supermarkets, it's the staff who might take the flak, if you like,
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from customers who... i don't know, some mum comes in and says i desperately need to buy some clothes for my kid because he has torn another pair of trousers and all the rest of it and they are told, i'm terribly sorry, we cannot sell you this, it ends up being a confrontation at the shop floor level? absolutely, and that is exactly the point we made on thursday, that we thought this policy was going to end up being confusing and lack clarity. the people who will bear the brunt of this will be our hard working retail staff. these people have put themselves on the front line right throughout this pandemic, ensuring people have necessary goods and service to buy in our store and that is where our concern has been all the way through this. we hope it's something we can resolve through a constructive conversation with the welsh government over the forthcoming days. the view of the welsh retail consortium there. the latest government figures show 19,790 new coronavirus infections recorded in the latest 24—hour period.
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that means the average number of new cases reported per day in the last week, is 21,628. 1,015 people had been admitted to hospital on average each day over the week to last tuesday. 151 deaths were reported — that's people who died within 28 days of a positive covid—19 test. that means on average in the past week — 179 deaths were announced every day, which takes the total number of deaths so far across the uk to 411,896. spain's prime minister has announced a new state of emergency across the country in an attempt to control the spread of the infection. regions will be given powers to take their own decisions on health matters — including whether to introduce curfews. italy has also announced much tougher covid restrictions. we will hear from tougher covid restrictions. we will hearfrom our bbc tougher covid restrictions. we will hear from our bbc correspondent in
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rome shortly but first, from madrid. i don't think it came as a huge prize in spain because of the severity of the second wave of coronavirus. last week, spain became the first european country to surpass 1 the first european country to surpass1 million the first european country to surpass 1 million cases the first european country to surpass1 million cases in the first european country to surpass 1 million cases in total since the pandemic began. also, there has been pressure from many regional governments on the central government to take a measure like this and in practice, what it's going to mean is the introduction of a curfew across the country. also, it will mean that those regional governments will be allowed to take any measures, in terms of restrictions on movement, restrictions on movement, restrictions on movement, restrictions on social activity, that they deem necessary in their specific areas of the country. i think it did come as a surprise, in the sense that prime minister sanchez says this will last until may, so that gives us an idea of how the government sees this situation panning out. compared to the full
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closure of the first wave, this is a looser lockdown. restaurants and bars must stop serving tables at 6pm, then takeaway service until midnight. gyms, swimming pools, theatres mash up. a strong recommendation people only move around if they really need to do so. remember, italy was the first country in the world to impose a national lockdown back in march. many other countries viewed italy as a model. britain followed exactly two weeks later but this time the government is being more cautious, mindful that the economy is already forecast to shrink here by 10% this year and there were protests over the weekend over tougher measures. the prime minister today said this month will be very difficult for italians with soaring cases and biting measures but he said if they tough it out, this month's sacrifice could save christmas. mark lowen in rome and before that quy mark lowen in rome and before that guy in madrid. nhs staff are being encouraged to use rooms — nicknamed ‘wobble rooms', or ‘well being hubs' — as a safe space to help them protect their mental wellbeing
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as a second wave of the pandemic takes hold. health care workers like nurses and midwives can use these spaces to seek out quietude, or write their feelings down in a book. lauren hatcher is a children's intensive care nurse at the royal london hospital. she told me earlier about the room she uses at her hospital. it's the well—being hub and it's somewhere we can go when we come away from the craziness of what's going on and just to read and to listen to music or speak to our colleagues and share experiences. how important has it been for you? i think you were working... am i right to say you work at the royal london? i do, yes. and you normally deal with very seriously ill children, but during the first wave of the pandemic, you were dealing just with covid—19 patients. yeah, that's right.
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i normally work in children's intensive care and from around the beginning of march, we started to work in adult intensive care to look after the covid patients. how big a shock to the system was that for you? it was a massive shock. it's a massive change going from little people to big people and, of course, the new disease of covid which we were learning as we were going through the time, so it was a really big shock to everyone. when did you get the sense that you wanted to make use of this? were their particular times of day, was itjust the kind of relentlessness of that kind of intense working, under all the extra pressures that have come with covid, like the fact you can't even put your arm around a colleague if they're feeling stressed or even do the same for a patient or a relative. the fact that there weren't relatives there, presumably, a lot of the time. what was the trigger for you needing
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to use the well—being hub? i think it was just the need of normality i think. because, of course, what we were experiencing was like nothing before so to have somewhere to go to, sort of, be able to just relax, close our eyes, read a book, listen to some music and talk to colleagues without being in full ppe was a massive relief. now you have made that really interesting point because i suppose that must be the really unusual element for you is to have that time where you can look at somebody in the eye, presumably with all the requirements to wear ppe, even that kind of very basic stuff must be lost between colleagues? absolutely. i think it was a time for us all where we were quite disconnected from our friends and family because, you know, it was really difficult for us to explain what we were going through and difficult for them to understand, so to have this place where we can, you know, not be in full ppe and talk to each
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other was a really great and actually, connected us more from a colleague point of view. britain's oldest person, joan hocquard, has died in her dorset care home, at the age of 112. born in 1908, she was a keen sailor and drove an ambulance during the second world war. speaking to the bbc earlier this year, joan said she had no secret to her long life, but said she enjoyed butter and cream and scoffed at the idea of dieting. what a remarkable century to have lived through. now a time for a look at the weather with ben rich. a wet weekend overall and wet in the coming week. brisk winds, more heavy rain at times. that brings the risk
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of some localised flooding. it should turn milder later in the week. this evening and overnight, plenty more showers, especially in the west. could be some flashes of lightning and rumbles of thunder. not many showers and eastern areas, thatis not many showers and eastern areas, that is where we will have the lower temperatures, if you spot down to 2-3. temperatures, if you spot down to 2—3. tomorrow, a day of sunshine and showers, some showers heavy. the focus of the showers will move eastwards over the west, fewer showers through the afternoon and some spells of sunshine. windy in the south, the winds easing across scotland. temperatures between 10-14. we scotland. temperatures between 10—111. we will see some heavy rain pushing eastwards during tuesday, some blustery showers on wednesday that it will turn milder for the end of the week.

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