tv BBC News BBC News October 28, 2020 5:00pm-6:01pm GMT
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this is bbc news. the headlines... the family who died when a boat carrying migrants sank in the english channel have been named. their 15—month—old son is still missing. we're hearing from borderforce we're hearing from border force that what they think that needs to be done is tackling the people smugglers organising these crossing. we understand the family fade —— family paid smugglers around £20,000 to make this journey. concern about the impact of the second wave of coronavirus. some scientists warn of the consequences of not bringing in tougher measures. it's quite possible that by the end of next month, there would be 500 deaths a day. the whole of nottinghamshire will now enter tier 3 restrictions on friday, instead of tomorrow, affecting more than a million people.
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0n the us campaign trail, donald trump promises a great red wave, as his rivaljoe biden calls the president a conman. and coming up, after more than 200 days in hospital, the moment one patient is allowed home after being treated for coronavirus. thank you is not enough. they save my life. hello, good afternoon. it's emerged that the four migrants who died yesterday when their boat sank in the channel, were members of a kurdish—iranian family. their 15—month—old boy is still missing. they've been named
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as rasoul iran—nejad and shiva mohammad panahi, who were both 35. nine year—old anita and armin, who was six, also drowned. 15—month—old baby called artin has yet to be found. 15 other migrants were taken to hospital and an investigation into the sinking has been opened in dunkirk by the french public prosecutor. our correspondent simonjones has the latest from news correspondent. —— from dover. yesterday, when we heard the news that four people had died trying to get across the channel, including two young children and potentially another young child was missin, there was a real sense of shock on both sides of the channel. i think today, though, we've learned that the four people who died and the child who was missing were all from the same iranians or kurdish family. just to talk you through the people who have lost their lives, they are iran nezjad who was 35, shiva mohamed, hanratty was also 35,
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anita who was nine, and then he was six and their baby brother martin who is yet to be found. —— artin. we have learned via the bbc persian service who have been talking to the family. we have learnt that the family had saved all their possessions, they had sold practically everything they had to try to make the journey to the uk. they left iran at the start of august. they then travelled, eventually, through to italy and to france where they had spent around a month before yesterday morning getting on that boat and trying to get across the channel. what we are not clear about, though, is why they chose yesterday. why that was a potential opportunity to get across the channel were live today conditions out there, that sea were really rough, it was very windy, and experts said it was really only a matter of time before people lost their lives and there was no way the boat was going to get across the channel
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in conditions like that. yes. the situation is just desperate on so many levels. what are border force officials that you talk to, what do they say and also what do they say, again, about the role smugglers and all of this, the gangster and college families sometimes to behave in this way. i think, to be honest, people were expecting that eventually there would be loss of life like this in the channel. they were hoping desperately that it wouldn't happen. but i think border force and the home office were surprised about this because it's usually quite easy to predict when these crossings are going to happen. the weather is calm, the sea is calm, and then you can almost say, well, it'll be a busy day for the border force. i don't think anyone expected a boat carrying migrants to set out from northern france yesterday morning. now, 15 people were also taken to hospital as well as the four or five people we now believe have lost their lives.
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so, i think we're hearing from border force that what they say needs to be done is really tackling the people smugglers who are organising these crossings. we understand the family paid smugglers around £20,000 to make this journey to try to get across the channel. so, the government saying that has to be the focus, to tackle the people who are really plying and making the most of the people who desperately want to get across the channel, who are plying a trade in human misery. simonjones there in dover. later in the half hour, i will be talking to former head of the uk borderforce. as the number of covid infections rises, there are new warnings from scientists that more needs to be done to protect people and to prevent a much worse second wave. 0ne scientist has warned of at least 500 deaths a day by the end of next month. it's already happening in europe, and france and germany are expected
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to announce tougher measures later. with christmas and other festivals not far off, there are calls for a united approach from all four nations of the uk. keith doyle reports. it has been delayed 2a hours, but at a minute past midnight tomorrow night, nottingham will be the latest area to move into tier 3. warrington will also be under tier 3 restrictions, joining manchester, where they came in last week, and liverpool, which has been under tier 3 for a fortnight. imposing restrictions locally is designed to keep the economy open as much as possible. but with figures rising across the uk and europe, scientists are indicating that all of england could be under tier 3 by christmas as the number of infections rise. with our current measures, which are, you know, similar but with variations in different parts of europe, there is still evidence that there is not as much social distancing as there was when we clamped down in the first wave. and so we know that the risk is significant that cases
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will continue to grow. so it is not unrealistic to think of 25,000 people being in hospital by the end of next month? it is certainly not unrealistic to think about that. the most recent figures show 367 people died in the latest 24—hour period, with over 22,000 confirmed cases. that means on average in the past week 200 deaths were announced every day. the concern is the number of deaths may not peak as high as march, but will remain constant for a longer period. things do look very serious indeed. i mean, i have been looking at the deaths. we had a very large number reported yesterday, but they are going at about over 150 a day and doubling every two or three weeks. and that means it is quite plausible that by the end of next month there would be 500 deaths per day. in nottingham, where they are preparing for tighter restrictions, not everyone is convinced they will work. my sister is in manchester where they are already in tier 3, and she said it is the same. they still serve food, but then give
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you as many drinks as you like. i don't know, i don't think it is really going to make a difference. tojust keep shutting down, i mean, this city will go bust. there will be nothing left of it. you know, clothes shops, there willjust be nothing left of it, that is the problem. i think they said 28 days for us to be in tier 3. i think we will be in it a lot longer. the government believes the evidence still backs local restrictions, when questioned about a national england—wide fire break. no, i don't think that is right. i do not think that is consistent with the epidemiological picture we are seeing, or indeed consistent with the pressures that are being seen in different parts of the health service across the country. hospitals are feeling the pressure, particularly in the north of england. but admissions are still far below what was experienced in the spring. and there has been a substantial improvement in survival amongst people admitted
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with coronavirus disease as treatments have improved, and far more is now known about the virus. keith doyle, bbc news. the goverment says it's too early to say what covid rules will be in place at christmas as it comes under mounting pressure for more clarity in the run up to the festive period. ministers in england have suggested larger group celebrations may not be allowed. there are also calls for the four nations to agree on uniform guidance — as our political correspondent jess parker reports. downing street last december. the day after the general election. before covid caused a dramatic change in the way we live our lives. what will happen this christmas? ministers warn it is too early to say. there will be undoubtedly frustrations about the restrictions that people are having to abide by, but i think people also understand that we have to control the spread of this virus, we all have a role to play in doing that. i am sure we will be able to have a good christmas and families
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will be able to meet. but they may not be able to get together in the larger groups that they normally would. so, as winter approaches, a suggestion for england that there will be no big gatherings this christmas. but with varying rules across the uk, today calls for consistency. the problem i see at the moment is different rules in different parts of the united kingdom. and while i strongly believe in devolution, i think parts of the pandemic response has seen that work well. i think for christmas, there has to be a coordinated plan. so, questions about safe travel across the uk, students returning home from university, how many people will be able to gather together? in normal times, it might seem like christmas is just around the corner, only a couple of months away. but in the age of covid, change can come at you fast and the truth is, a lot could happen between now and december. hallowe‘en has not even happened yet, but christmas, for many people, matters much more.
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it is a case of, do you really want to put the grandparents at risk by having them round? most likely, immediate family and keep it small. but you never know what rules are going to change. we are going to try and be as safe as possible, but ideally, we want to meet because life is so short anyway. in the summer, ministers faced criticism after sudden rule changes curbed eid celebrations in parts of northern england. leaders know many will be desperate to see their families this christmas and we want to avoid setting rules that stretch the limits of public compliance. jessica parker, bbc news. let's discuss all of that, what's changing, looking ahead to christmas as well. dr yvonne doyle is medical director and director of health protection at public health england.
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a very good afternoon to you. thank you for your time. is your sense that greater restrictions are needed in parts of the country that don't have them yet? that that is the situation we're looking at? this is noted every day and indeed formally several times a week as to what the data is telling us about the behaviour of this virus in various parts of the country. what needs to be done to break the transmission of that virus in those places, and there are significant restrictions in place in many parts of the midlands and the north of england now. no part of the country is virus free, so everybody is being asked to do something and the most important things, of course, are two socially distance and to wash hands and where facemasks went in restricted environments where you're in close quarters. but also, there are restrictions now on how people can mix, and this is all about ensuring
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that we break the transmission of this virus. so, households should not mix. two households should not mix in the maximum number of people and household to be together is six. these are quite definite restrictions on people's lives and the purpose here is to slow the virus and break the transmission for the most vulnerable. so, when there area number of the most vulnerable. so, when there are a number of eminent scientists over the last couple of days talking about the rise in cases, the number of deaths that we could potentially see by the end of next month, do you echo all of that? i'm very concerned, as we all are, about rising numbers of deaths, cases in the young people eventually find their way through the community. u nfortu nately, their way through the community. unfortunately, the deaths are highest in older people still, and we know this from our hospital admissions at the moment. and also, from deaths at home. recent number
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of —— numbers of deaths show we are not out of the woods in terms of deaths in the community, and it is of concern. we watch this very carefully a nd of concern. we watch this very carefully and a great deal more is known about the virus in the spring time, but it requires constant guidance and good communication. and eve ryo ne guidance and good communication. and everyone playing their part to break that transmission of the virus, particularly for those who are most likely to have severe outcomes. i'm interested what you're feeling is about the risks to the health service, the pressure it puts on the health service. the fact that some trusts have said they have already cancelled the numbers of any routine operation that would require an overnight stay. that has a knock on in other areas of people's lives, but what are your thoughts on the pressures on the nhs? once again, these are watched very carefully every day. there's a very good surveillance system on the
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availability all of nhs facilities, and also how everyone else around that and local places can help to ensure that we do actually slow the transmission of the virus so the people do not get on well. but the important thing also is a people are u nwell important thing also is a people are unwell and not improving, and you are worried about your health or worried about those near to you who you see is obviously not improving, it's important to make contact with the health system so that you can be assessed and ensured that you do not deteriorate further in the services they are for you and we wish you to make that contact. i am really interested in the tension, if you like, between of course dealing and tackling the coronavirus and everything you've outlined, which makes sense, but the argument that there are other potentially very serious conditions that happen in a normal order of things that people are not getting attended to, that
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there is because of this understandable anxiety. there are people who are not presenting the health professionals because they think that the nhs is closed for business unless it's to do with coronavirus. what are your concerns are on that please although the nhs is certainly not closed for business and there are plenty of omissions occurring to hospitals at the moment. we are heading into the winter period as well, so we want to ta ke winter period as well, so we want to take ina winter period as well, so we want to take in a number of preventive actions to ensure we protect people as much as possible so we have a resilient population into the winter. i'm glad to say the a cce pta nce winter. i'm glad to say the acceptance rate and the uptake of the vaccination is good, particularly in older people and are very grateful for making an effort to vaccinate in these early weeks. we continued to do that throughout the season, but the important thing is that the nhs is open for business
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and it will receive those who are u nwell and it will receive those who are unwell and they must be able to make contact. just a quick thought on the restrictions, we are talking about nottinghamshire. it goes into other measures on friday. we've heard from the leader of one of the councils within that patch who says they will be closing beauty salons and l bars as recommended by public health england. what is the rationale there. my point being that people get pretty confused about the rules -- nail get pretty confused about the rules —— nail bars. there are other parts of the country and tier 3 where those establishments are not shut. what is the rationale around that? so the highest tier alert level
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location is the level three, where the restrictions are most stringent. but that still leaves room for local decision—makers, depending on what the data is telling them, to go further and restrict further access to places where they feel that is important. and this may be one example of that. public health england has provided guidance as to what should happen in various locations and workplaces, businesses, schools and so on, and that guidance gives people the confidence that they can be doing things consistently across the country, but the decision as to whether to restrict further is very much a local decision and there are a number of those who can come into play. ijust think a number of those who can come into play. i just think that's interesting for viewers to hear. another region, let's say greater manchester, if businesses like that are not obliged to close in their region, that is because if local
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leaders have taken that decision. they're still working off the same data presumably. the data will vary according to what the virus does. the guidance will be consistent and can be used and is available on .co dash .gov uk. it's important that people have access to that guidance and use it because that will give that the moche up—to—date information. thank you so much. i appreciate your time this evening. let's look at other european countries. germany will introduce a month long partial lockdown from monday and france is expected to announce new coronavirus measures later today. in a moment we'll speak tojenny hill in berlin but first
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to hugh schofield in paris. what are we expecting where you are, he'll? we're expecting the president to make an address in an hour or so in which he will probably announce some kind of return to a lockdown. there won't be a complete lockdown, we don't think, but a lockdown in which we would once again be required to stay at home and not be... unless we have a particular reason to go out. the big difference with the early lockdown, probably that schools are allowed to open, but president macron has been combined with his advisers over the last couple of days because the news has been dreadful here, the number of cases has been shooting up. the number of deaths today was over 500 and the portion of critical beds that are occupied by covid patient
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is shooting up, more than 50% across the country. if nothing changes that it the end of next week, there will be 90%, in a position where heart attacks and car crashes will be vying for access to those bets for covid patients. in the face of all this news, president macron has decided something drastic needs to be done, and it looks like it will be done, and it looks like it will bea be done, and it looks like it will be a return to lockdown. i have to say a lighter lockdown, because he's promised all along that it will be a return to the complete lockdown of march and april, but a lockdown with school still open and some kind of encouragement for people to work from home. we will find out more in the next few hours, thanks for now. let's talk to jenny hale the next few hours, thanks for now. let's talk tojenny hale in berlin. is that what germany is looking at?
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it's been called lockdown light here, and angola merkeljust announcing new measures “— here, and angola merkeljust announcing new measures —— angela merkel. as of monday, it looks as though bars, restaurants, leisure facilities will all shut for the month of november and people will be told that they must limit private gatherings to a maximum of ten people from just two households. these measures don't go as far as what we saw here back in the spring, and that schools and nurseries will stay open. that was key to what angela merkel wanted to protect. shops, too, are expected to remain open. still a dramatic set of measures for german lee, when you consider the numbers we are seeing here much lower than what is happening in france —— for germany. track and trace, that key strategy for germany when it comes to dealing with the pandemic is in effect broken in many parts of the country. it simply no number possible to track and trace all change of
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infections. that meant in effect they had lost control of the spread of the virus and that's why she said it was important to act now, even though doing so she knows will hurt businesses and individuals across the country. jenny, thank you jenny hill in berlin and hugh schofield in paris. let's return to the news that the two adults and two children who died yesterday when their boat sank in the channel off the coast of dunkirk have been identified as members of the same kurdish—iranian family. the parents‘ is—month—old boy remains missing. joining me now is tony smith, former head of uk border force and now a border security consultant. thanks so much for your time this evening. it is another desperate story that i find myself talking to you about. your thoughts about this
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particular crossing, particularly given that the weather conditions at the time. it's tragic that we're seeing this. i think the migrants had been seduced by good weather over the summer. when it's like a mill pond, obviously very tempting for them to cross. but i'm afraid, as the winter draws on these are turbulent waters. it's extremely dangerous and of course it's now tragically lost lives which, i'm afraid, predictable and the circumstances. every time there is talk, including from politicians, it is the people ‘s mother who must be found and stopped —— people smugglers. this family given as much is £20,000 to make this fateful journey, where is the attempt to try
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to get to that because of the problem? i think the government are doing everything they can to stop the boats working with the french, but ultimately it is a matter of the french enforcement agencies on the front side to find the smugglers and stop the boats. the uk government has offered them a good deal of support and resources to enable them to do that, but essentially, under the current system, the smuggling gangs are looking to capture the french the finches on the beaches distract. and it's for the migrants to make their own way into british territory in waters where of course, they can monitor asylum claims. in that respect, its success from the point of view of the smugglers. they will continue to ply their trade in this way. we have to get the message out to migrants in northern france
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who are thinking of paying to people to do this that the tragic consequences of doing so, and we do need morejoint consequences of doing so, and we do need more joint activities consequences of doing so, and we do need morejoint activities between our own enforcement agencies and the french enforcement agencies to put these smugglers out of business and to stop the boats. we believe this particularfamily had to stop the boats. we believe this particular family had been to stop the boats. we believe this particularfamily had been in france for about a month before making the journey and the last couple of days. there will be people who say, why don't they stay in france? what will be wrong with living and starting a new life in france? is that too simplistic? there's clearly a reason they must want to take the risk to try get here. well, the uk, i think, is seen as and promoted as an attractive place to come by the smuggling gangs along the routes. we do have very diverse communities here. there are a range of factors while people rode rather come to the uk then stay in france. you're right, france is a safe country.
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nobody who is in fear of persecution of their lives have been referred to —— return to our ron will be sent back to the —— by the french government. that's where they should be making their planes. —— return to iran. not paying criminals money to put themselves on the children at risk. i personally would like to see a joint treaty with the french which will enable us to have joint patrols to say people, rescue people on the understanding they would be returned immediately when safe and well back to france where they would be processed, and not to exploit this opportunity to try to get into british waters very dangerously to get into the british asylum system. tony smith, very good to talk to you. thank you for your time. former director general of the uk border force.
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with less than a week to the us presidential election, the democratic candidatejoe biden has taken his campaign to the state of georgia, usually a republican stronghold. president trump has been holding rallies in michigan, wisconsin and nebraska, promising a giant red wave. 0ur north america correspondent david willis has the latest. in the georgian hot springs town where franklin roosevelt once sought treatment for polio, another democrat, joe biden, pledged to heal the country's wounds. anger and suspicion are growing. and our wounds are getting deeper. and many wonder, has it gone too far? have we passed the point of no return? has the heart of this nation turned to stone? i don't think so. two socially distanced rallies here are being seen as a sign
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of confidence on the part of the biden team. not since bill clinton back in 1992 has georgia supported a democrat in a presidential election. but polls put the two candidates neck and neck. little social distancing in evidence here by comparison, and many at this trump rally were also maskless. donald trump is seeking to defend the midwestern states of michigan and wisconsin, states he narrowly won four years ago. and despite trailing in the polls, he clearly believes history will repeat itself. you're going to see a giant red wave on tuesday. cheering. you're going to see a red wave like they've never seen before, and they saw a very big one, i'll tell you what, they got a glimpse on four years ago, because that was... and remember they said, "where did these people come from? where did they come from?" a little while later, the trump campaign was dealt
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a setback when its website was taken over by hackers who claimed to have information that discredited the president. the donaldj trump website was offline completely for about 30 minutes, and the campaign subsequently released a statement saying it had been defaced and that they were working with law enforcement to investigate the source of the attack. no sensitive data had been compromised, the statement said. meanwhile, americans are already voting in record numbers. nearly 70 million people have already cast their ballot. that's nearly half the total number that voted in the presidential election four years ago. counting might take days or even weeks, to the consternation of donald trump, who repeated his opposition to delaying the outcome in order to count millions of postal votes. he wants a result on election night, setting the stage for a battle that could end up in the courts. david willis, bbc news, los angeles.
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and we can speak now to larry sabato, who's director of the center for politics at the university of virginia. very good afternoon. same to you. we have been really struck watching it from our country the sheer number of people who have already done a postal vote in this country —— as we call them in this country. what you're thinking about what's behind that? really two fasteners. one is a pandemic. —— two factors. people wa nt to pandemic. —— two factors. people want to vote, but they would also prefer want to vote, but they would also p refer to want to vote, but they would also prefer to live. so, this is a good compromise. so, those people are mainly being taken away from election day. they would have shown up election day. they would have shown up on election day of their voting are in advance, but there is clearly another increment. numbering in the
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millions, people who don't regularly vote, some who just registered. they feel very strongly about this campaign. pro and con on donald trump, really. joe biden is kind of an afterthought. they don't trust the authorities to count their vote if they go too late. do we know that from surveys and so on? i mean, is that actually a fact that this isn't just gut instinct of it might be reliable to some degree, but, i mean, we know this? absolutely. most pollsters have done at least basic questions about why you were voting early on what your party ideas. to this point with democrats have greatly outnumbered republicans, but that was expected for the early vote. 0n election day, we expect republicans to greatly outnumber democrats. now, what the exact levels will be, of course, we cannot you get the real numbers. but it's
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clear that certain types of people are attracted to voting early voting early voting on election day. and the fact that we've seen the two candidates out in states that perhaps ordinarily they wouldn't have bothered to fly to, does that tell its own story? it certainly does the joe tell its own story? it certainly does thejoe biden. if this were a really close race in their view then biden would be where hillary clinton should have been four years ago, in wisconsin, in michigan, in pennsylvania. now, he has visited those states just in the past week or so but the fact he is going to georgia in particular, which hasn't voted for a democrat since bill clinton in 1992, tells you that there are really good chances for democrats to win georgia and some other states they are not used to winning. arizona would be a good example. and, therefore, on the night, which are the states that you are night, which are the states that you a re really night, which are the states that you are really going to be looking at? if you see a particular state go one
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way or the other you think, 0k, if you see a particular state go one way or the other you think, ok, i know how this will end up? well, the earliest voters that will actually get the counts, committee had counts, will be some of the east coast states, southeast, north carolina, georgia and florida. now, they'll tell a tale. last time trumper carried all three. they usually go republican. lovett has gone back and forth but of late it has gone republican. —— florida has gone back and forth. but if any of those states defects to joe gone back and forth. but if any of those states defects tojoe biden that will tell a different store is grey. but, again, it is a continental country, 50 states, and 11 real swing states and we will have to look at all of them, look at the big picture, but it will take a while. —— that will tell a different story.
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sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, here's 0lly foster. the rugby league season has been hit really ha rd by the rugby league season has been hit really hard by covid. there has been an outbreak at castleford. they have 12 positive cases and their match is off on friday. leeds rhinos played the tigers on monday and four of their players have been stood down from their next game after being contacted by track and trace. huddersfield now face warrington. now, that's after salford have had to forfeit their scheduled match against warrington on friday because they haven't got an up fit players following a frantic run of matches, including the challenge cup final. player welfare is a real concern, and with coded postponements as well, will be super league for season finished on time? so, we knew it was going to be a very hectic schedule and we all agreed to do it. we had to get semi—live games on sky tv as well. so, other clubs are
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having a really good dig on this but when you see the players suffering as they are doing at the moment and anybody who has played the game knows how it feels to get out of bed in the morning after the super league game and it is not the most pleasa nt league game and it is not the most pleasant experiences but listen, you know, rugby league people are tough and the governing body are going to get together and work out how we can get together and work out how we can get together and work out how we can get to the back end of the season. i'm sure with the grand final coming. baseball, now, and the los angeles dodgers world series victory has been overshadowed somewhat by a covid case. they discovered mid—game against the tampa bay rays that one of their players, justin turner at the front with a beard, had tested positive. he was withdrawn from the game is to wave at the turn to join his team—mates for their celebrations, theirfirst his team—mates for their celebrations, their first world series since 1988 but the players seemingly blase approach to turn as condition hasn't put the team in the best possible light. you know, there is the optics of the situation and,
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you know, in a perfect world, yet, ina you know, in a perfect world, yet, in a perfect world he doesn't get coded within the next closest thing he properly stays in the back and waits until the field is empty and then get pictures. couple of rugby union headlines for you. england will be without the back—up scrum—half wally heinz for their six nations match against italy in rome this weekend. alex mitchell has been called up. we were training in our tea m called up. we were training in our team session and i think it was just after a little box kick that he did and hejust after a little box kick that he did and he just felt a little after a little box kick that he did and hejust felt a little niggle after a little box kick that he did and he just felt a little niggle and it is obviously important to make sure that we got on top of it. we have had other players who get niggles and knocks as well so they are generally always staying because he had the treatment here is first class. ireland will be sure of winning the six nations title role if they get a bonus point against france, a bonus point win. 0ne change to the side that beat italy
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last week on a bonus point win. 0ne change to the side that beat italy last week, centre... in place of the injured gary ringwald. saudi arabia is set to make its debut on the formula 1 calendar next year. a draft lift given to the f1 tea m year. a draft lift given to the f1 team says that the penultimate event ofa team says that the penultimate event of a race season will be injeddah ona of a race season will be injeddah on a street circuit. a purpose—built track is also being built in kadir in saudi arabia that they hope will be ready in time for 2023. manchester united and chelsea are both in action this evening in the champions league. chelsea, who drew last week in the first group match are in russia facing fc krasnodar. people will look at this grouping may be considering coming to russia against this group in a team that may be the first time in the champions league but this will be a co mforta ble champions league but this will be a comfortable game because, we have to have edging again, we have to have an edge wherever we travel in this group to make sure we get through it. that match kicks off... all the
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champions league matches you can follow on the bbc sport website. cristiano rinaldo misses outfit juventus against barcelona. millville now though messy showdown tonight. he has tested positive covid again, two weeks after his first positive test, so he is ruled out yet again. bbc.co.uk ford is a sport. server will be back at half past six with sports day. —— bbc.co.uk/sport, —— sarah. in the past few minutes , the department of health has confirmed all of nottingham
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and nottinghamshire will enter tier 3 restrictions at one minute past midnight on friday. nottingham city and three surrounding local authority areas were due to move into the "very high" covid alert level overnight tonight but rising cases in north nottinghamshire districts, which were originally due to be excluded from tier 3, have prompted a rethink. the entire county will now move into tier 3 as one but with a 2k hour delay. with me now is the labour mp for nottingham south, lilian greenwood. hello, good evening. sorry, i lost sambar, ican hello, good evening. sorry, i lost sambar, i can hear what your question was. we were talking about the fact that the whole county goes on to restrictions on friday morning. was that inevitable? was there any alternative? no, i don't think that it was an health statistics that it was going to be necessary to move the whole county and is not just necessary to move the whole county and is notjust nottingham city and the brothers. the truth is that the government have been giggling and delaying for the best part of two weeks now, and, well, hopefully we will finally have chip quality. we now know that we are going people
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still don't know precisely what the restriction for nothing and share ourand of restriction for nothing and share our and of course the businesses that means that some of them don't know whether they are going to be open or closed on friday. people don't know whether they are going to be required to going to work on it. it really has been absolutely woeful in terms of the communications. ok, any when you say people over what the restrictions are, for example in the restrictions are, for example in the last couple of dell as we have been talking about the fact that one area, ashfield, said that certain businesses are going to be asked to close, places like nail bars, beauty salons. they say that is because of advice from public health england. is not going to be case if you are? where why is there still uncertainty, then? so i think when the government introduced the new tea rs, the government introduced the new tears, the assumption was that they we re tears, the assumption was that they were to try to simplify things, so you would have one set of rules that he won, one set for tier 2 and one set for tier 3 but it turns out that
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that isn't the case. and there are some basics that are going to be in tier 3 everywhere but there is some issues that are from local negotiations. now, that may be sensible, but we are in the situation now where until the government issue their press release, which they promised us, well, they promised yesterday and now they have promised again this evening, the clarity about exactly what the new arrangements will be in nottinghamshire simply isn't out there, and the public and businesses simply don't know. and so can local councils collect that information and try to explain it to people? well, that's's what, obviously, local councils over a number of days have been reaching agreement with the government about what those local restrictions are. yesterday we had a ridiculous situation that one of the local councils, broxtowe, put the details upon their website at 730 and then
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20 minutes later were told by the government to take it down because they were entering talks now with a wider range of councils in the cou nty of wider range of councils in the county of nottinghamshire, so i hope that the communication strategy is going to be clearer and that people will know exactly what they can and can't do and, just as importantly, to understand why we need these in nottinghamshire because i think if people understand why they are more likely to comply with what's being asked of them. and do you and other local leaders and representatives know what needs to be the case in order to come out of these? know. i have asked that question at every single meeting we have had with ministers. we have had meetings with three different health ministers on three different health ministers on three different health ministers on three different occasions this week and meetings with public health. i've asked that question every single time and i'm afraid i haven't had a clear answer. so, what was the
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answer. well, the answer is things like well, we have to look at a range of factors. i have no clarity about whether it's the case very generally, the kate rate for over 60s, the pressures on our local hospitals, a combination, but, i mean, nothing that gives us a target to aim for. —— the case rate. we're not sure what it is that we need to achieve and i think that's really ha rd achieve and i think that's really hard on people. they don't know what the future holds. lillian greenwood, labourmpfor the future holds. lillian greenwood, labour mp for nottingham south. thank you much. for more than 200 days, esse khanzadeh was in wythenshawe hospital, battling the effects of coronavirus. but this week, the 59—year—old from cheadle has finally been discharged — and was given a very special send off. juliet phillips reports. after seven long months fighting covid—19, this was the moment esse khanzadeh was finally able to leave hospital. thanks everyone!
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bye! his doctors and nurses forming a guard of honour. now back at home, he's full of gratitude for those who cared for him. thank you is not enough. they really... they saved my life, basically. simple. i should be a guard of honourfor them. it hasn't been an easyjourney. esse spent four months in an induced coma, and many months after that fighting to get fit enough to be discharged. i never thought for a minute that i would catch it, let alone be that close to not coming back. esse had no prior health conditions and feels strongly people should stop underestimating the virus. it's amazing how some of the people, even now, think of it as a cold or flu or whatever.
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esse's brother farry has been supporting and praying for him throughout. he wasn't the only one excited for the big homecoming, though. esse's neighbours lined the street to welcome him back. all the neighbours were out, applauding esse. encouragement, showing him how much he means to everyone, and esse was touched. he was really emotional himself. it's a long road ahead for esse, whose lungs have been damaged by the disease, but finally being able to come home, with his family around him, is a major milestone. it's a long road home, so, yeah — relieved. juliette phillips, bbc north west tonight, cheadle.
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one of the uk's covid hotspots — derry and strabane — was one of the first to introduce local restrictions three weeks ago to try and stop the spread. the bbc‘s northern ireland health correspondent marry—louise connolly has been given exclusive access to altnagelvin hospital's covid and icu wards — hearing how people there have been dealing with the virus. sandra kelly tested positive for covid—19 almost a fortnight ago. on day eight, her condition worsened and the 58—year—old grandmother was admitted to altnagelvin hospital. sandra is one of 20 seriously ill patients being treated on ward 21. this used to be where patients recovered after hip and knee operations, but the pressures of the pandemic mean it was scaled up into another covid unit just a few weeks ago — and patients like sandra say they feel lucky to be here. i thought i was going to die. that's how bad i was. the hospital, doctors and nurses, work round the clock to try and save you,
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and that's what they done with me. it was horrendous. for the staff, it's relentless work, as one 12—hour shift rolls into the next. most have families. laura here has two young boys. i'm exhausted here at the minute. i came on from half seven last night, just finishing. we came in to 15 patients at the start of the night. we had patients moved to another ward to try and accommodate room in here. we've now 20 patients this morning. this is us full. what really stands out here is the tremendous sense of calm and dedication from every single member of staff. of course, in every case, they're helping people, helping patients, but particularly here in the intensive care unit, they're trying to save lives. so, we had 68 patients this morning here positive on—site and one patient in ed... the bbc was invited in to altnagelvin hospital to highlight the pressures
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on all aspects of care. at the morning management meeting, the scale of the challenges are laid bare. but there's no real signs that the pressures are going off. 0nly last week, the number of positive cases was so high, derry and strabane was considered one of the uk's hotspots. but as a result of the local restrictions imposed, the bbc can now reveal that the cases of covid—19 have dropped by almost a half. i'd like to say thank you because, er, we are all in this together. if all of us are not in together, there will be lives which will be lost. and you can see it that as soon as the lockdown happened, the hospital admissions did come down. that does not mean we are out of the woods. so, for now, those working the front line in altnagelvin can cope. the hope is that will continue in the weeks ahead. marie—louise connolly, bbc news. the head of the uk vaccines task force says there's a possibility that there could be a vaccine
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roll—out in the uk before christmas, but that an early 2021 launch is more likely. kate bingham says she is optimistic that the vaccine will be approved for use soon, and that the uk is well positioned. she's been telling my colleague geeta guru—murthy that the first covid—vaccines could be similar to the current flu vaccine — giving a short initial boost, but would need to be adminstered regularly. they're not 100% protective and they don't provide protection for more than several months to a year. i think what we will end up with is something where we can manage this disease, we need to stop it from being a lethal disease that is causing a global shutdown, to something that is manageable where we can both prevent infection as well as reduce the severity of symptoms if infection actually takes place.
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when do you think we will get the information we need on whether vaccines are safe and whether they work? i wish i could give you a firm answer. what i can say is that the front—running vaccines will have completed or have completed their clinical trial enrolment. by november, we should have at least the front—running vaccines which does includes oxford and also the pfizer—biontech vaccine, where they will have completed enrolment. the bit that we don't know, or the two parts we don't know is whether or not have been sufficient infections in those clinical trials to be able to statistically show that people who have received a vaccine are protected against those who have not and of course the holy grail question is do the vaccines work. but i have to say that i am optimistic. i think it's important we do manage expectations, that this is not likely to be a one and done, a silver bullet that will put everything back to rights immediately. but i do think, based on the data
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that's been generated so far, we have room to be optimistic, and we mustn't rush it. we need to ensure that everything is done safely and properly and we're in a good position, the uk is well positioned. and when, realistically, can people expect to be offered vaccines in the uk? if the first two vaccines, either of them, show they are both safe and effective, i think there is a possibility that vaccine roll—out will start this side of christmas but otherwise i think it's more realistic to expect it to be early next year. and who would be given them first as a priority? that's a matterfor the department of health who works with an expert committee called thejcvi, who are thejoint committee on vaccinations and immunisations, and they advise the government on priorities and who should get it first and they have put on their website the initial advice or prioritisation, obviously in the absence of the final clinical data so it might change, but they have prioritised the care
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home residents and workers, front line health care workers, and the over 80s. then their priorities go down roughly in age order including those adults with severe underlying diseases. is there not a risk in rushing out to give vaccines to people who are already quite vulnerable if they are old or have health issues, given this vaccine has been produced incredibly fast, we just don't know what the long—term consequences are, do we? a bit like we didn't know about long covid at the beginning. as i said, the safety trials have not been compromised, they've not been rushed, no changes to the high standards of safety have ta ken place in the development of these vaccines. so i don't, again, iam not concerned that the safety has been compromised. but we don't know... we might be able to do initial tests on side—effects but we don't know what the side—effects are in a year or five years or ten years.
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no, we don't know and that's... of course, we need to run those studies to see, but that is why the jcvi has recommended that the people that receive the vaccines are those who are most at risk from infection. so, yes, we don't know what the consequences might be in five or ten years, but the fact is that if these vulnerable people have risk of severe mortality or morbidity if they get the infection, then i think that's something that each individual person and the government and thejcvi need to consider. but you do need to think about, if you take the mrna vaccine, which is the pfizer—biontech vaccine, that is in the body for a very short time before it is degraded. so, biologically, ithink it is unlikely there will be a lot of long—term consequences but of course we cannot say that until we have actually run the studies and looked at them. and given there is always that risk, can you explain to me briefly
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what the different vaccines are, because they work with different mechanisms, don't they? are any of them live jabs, because we know you sometimes get a reaction to the flu jab, don't you? the two classes of vaccines, one is an adeno vaccine which is a virus that gets into the cells and gets a spike protein translated by the cells and that's how you make the protein. there are different ways of exposing the body to a viral covid protein. the adeno virus is the same as the oxford, that's what they are, so that's a viral approach. the mrna approach, instead of bringing in the genetic injected in so then, again, the body makes their own protein. you could just have vaccines where you just inject the protein itself, so that's what the novavax vaccine
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is together with the gsk vaccine, and you could also have inactivated whole virus, where you literally grow up covid—19, render it inactive and then that is the vaccine itself. so they're all different ways of exposing the immune system to the viral proteins in order to elicit an immune response and we don't know which if any of these vaccine formats will be the most potent, stimulating the strongest immune response, or which may provoke the longest lasting immune response. that is why in the uk what we have done is to build a portfolio of six different vaccines across these four different formats so we can maximise our chances of having a successful vaccine that will work for everybody. it may be that different vaccines will work for different people. so, the older people's immune system is not as robust, it's got tired compared with a young person's, you know, a health care worker's immune system, so it may be that we have different vaccines for different people.
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good evening. it's been a day of rough seas, sunny spells and squally showers across much of the country. just look at this stunning weather watcher picture. really quite dramatic, but it shows you the fierceness of the winds whipping the sea into action. low pressure will gradually drift away but it's only going to be replaced by another, bringing yet more wet weather across the country as we go through tomorrow. for the next few hours, though, today's showers will slowly fade away. we'll see rain gathering into northern ireland and western fringes of wales and south west england by the end of the night. ahead of it, with some clear skies, we could see low single figures across much of the eastern half of the uk. but some of that rain will really be quite heavy and it will be with some of us for much of the day on thursday, so starting off with a spell of wet weather sweeping its way steadily north and east. by the middle of the afternoon, taking a snapshot from three o'clock, the heaviest of the rain will be across south west scotland, northwest england and north wales with gusts of wind on exposed coasts potentially up to 50 mph in places. the rain will have eased in the bulk
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of england and wales, so by the middle of the afternoon, still going to be a windy affair, particularly on exposed coasts. a lot of cloud around, but a slightly drier, quieter story. and with the wind direction coming from a south—westerly, we're starting to drag in slightly milder air, temperatures may well peek at highs of 60 degrees through the middle of the afternoon. rain will ease away and friday will be a little bit quieter, a little bit warmer as well with 18 degrees, the potentialfor some wet weather lingering into wales, but it's low pressure that's going to sit in the driving seat for the start of the weekend. there's more wet and windy weather to close out the month of october, unfortunately, with gale force gusts of wind on exposed coasts continuing. so, again, some of that rain really quite heavy the further west you are, it sweeps its way steadily eastwards. winds still likely to gust in excess of 40—50 mph on exposed coasts, but the wind direction's still coming from a southerly,
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so those temperatures a little warmer than they have been of late. we should see 17, possibly 18 degrees in one or two spots despite the rain around on saturday. more wet and windy weather to come on sunday, but there are indications that as we move in to the start of next week, things will quiet down just a touch.
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four people who drowned in the english channel yesterday trying to cross from france were members of the same family. rasoul and shiva, and their children anita and armin, were kurdish—iranian. a fifth person, their baby artin, has not been found. the family were at a camp in dunkirk while waiting to cross — people there knew them and are in shock. very sad, but maybe i cannot show my feeling — i love him, but inside i cry. it's very sad, but what can i do? nothing. with a big increase in numbers trying to cross the channel, we'll be looking at the factors that drive people to expose themselves and their families to such danger.
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