tv Outside Source BBC News November 5, 2020 7:00pm-8:30pm GMT
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. joe biden is closing the gap in the race for the white house but either candidate could still win. counting continues in the states that will decide it — georgia, arizona, nevada and pennsylvania are among those still to declare the trump campaign launches multiple lawsuits — they want a recount in wisconsin — and donald trump wants late arriving votes to be thrown out. trump supporters have been protesting outside counting centres, the biden campaign says they want every vote to be counted. i'm not here to declare that we won, but i am here to report when the count is finished, we believe we will be the winners.
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also, we will talk about covid—19. uk has extended its furlough scheme to support workers until the end of march. the government is promising the country will be out of lockdown by christmas. another day for america's democracy. the president is making baseless accusations of electoral fraud and attempts to steal the election. his campaign is launching multiple lawsuits to sto there's a huge amount to take you through — let's begin with the electoral college projections. —— it's a standard part of the electoral process, and international election observers have accused him ofa election observers have accused him of a gross abuse of power. the last two days are not entirely surprising, but as we have seen from
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reaction around the world, it still has the capacity to shock. this is not american democracy as people normally see it. account still goes on. across the hour, we will hear all of the latest, but let's begin with where we got to with the electoral college projections. the bbc hasjoe electoral college projections. the bbc has joe by electoral college projections. the bbc hasjoe by nine 253 votes and donald trump on 214. whoever gets a 270 is the president. we do know that alreadyjoe biden has received over 70 million votes, more than any other presidential candidate in history. though remember the national vote is not what counts here. we do know that alreadyjoe biden has received over 70 million votes, more than any other presidential candidate in history. though remember the national vote is not what counts here. it's all about the electoral college — this is the system where winning individual states gives candidates a certain number of electoral college votes.
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it's those votes which will can make them president. donald trump has repeatedly asserted — without evidence — that people are trying to "steal" the election from him. in a statement — released by his campaign team — he says... we must stress that counting under way is completely normal. it's part of the process. mail—in ballots are routinely counted after election day, and we know there has been a record number of mail—in ballots in pa rt record number of mail—in ballots in part because of a pandemic. but that hasn't stopped the president repeatedly making this claim... earlier on, he tweeted... although, if they took that approach in arizona and nevada, joe biden would win the election. for his part, joe biden has tweeted in the last few hours... now, if you have been seeing different tallies of the electoral college from different news sources all day, you will be forgiven for being for confused.
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let's explain what's happening here. different outlets get their data from different sources. here's the new york times, projecting 253 electoral college votes forjoe biden, including wisconsin, which we know may be the subject of a recount if it's particularly close. this is fox news. it's projecting 254 electoral college votes. it's projecting 264 electoral college votes forjoe biden. that's including arizona which has 86% of ballots counted. this year, the bbc gets its data via reuters, from polling firm edison research. and we'll be hearing from someone from edison later in the programme. i guess the core question here remains, "how does each man reach 270 electoral college votes? " with all that in mind, let's go to christian fraser to break this down for us. christian, guide us through the routes available to biden interim. yes, so this is our map as it looks right now, everything in red belongs to the president of everything in blue has been projected forjoe biden. the grey spots, the battleground states that are still
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toss ups for us. i think we can probably ignore north carolina at the moment. it has a lead of around 76,000 votes, the president there, it's not shifted much in the last 24 hours. we will talk but the other four and another minutes, but i want to show you the route thatjoe biden has at the moment to the white house. he has three routes, the simplest is that one. pennsylvania ta kes simplest is that one. pennsylvania takes into 273. but he has other routes, because over the last few hours, georgia has been tightening. so if he won georgia, if you took the votes that he needs, he needs around 13 and to have thousand votes to ove rco m e around 13 and to have thousand votes to overcome the president, and many have nevada, then he would be home. so that's one route. of course, he is ahead in the southwest, he doesn't even need pennsylvania. we canjust doesn't even need pennsylvania. we can just put him doesn't even need pennsylvania. we canjust put him in blue there. and with nevada, he comes to exactly 270. for the president, with nevada, he comes to exactly 270. forthe president, it with nevada, he comes to exactly 270. for the president, it is more difficult. he needs pennsylvania for him, pennsylvania is the race. let
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me show you. if he takes georgia, if he hangs on there, north carolina, if he wins arizona and nevada, where he's behind at the moment, he is still on 262. so it's much tougher for the president. he'sjust tweeted. .. "stop account." for the president. he'sjust tweeted... "stop account." i can understand what he wants to stop account here because he is in front in these states, and the more they count, the more the lead he has slips away, but if they stop the account over here, joe biden is already home in 270. clearly, one of the things that is frustrating donald trump is that he had big leads in some of these states, and those leads are going down and down, but we did expect that to happen, didn't we? yeah, of course we did, andi didn't we? yeah, of course we did, and i want to talk about pennsylvania in particular, because we we re pennsylvania in particular, because we were warned ahead of the election that what they were going to do was call first of all, or count, first of all, the in person votes. so what we're looking out at the moment is the absentee vote. it's in places like philadelphia county come to
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delaware county down in the southwest of the states, and allegheny over in the western part of the state, which is around pittsburgh. you can see it heavily tilts towards joe pittsburgh. you can see it heavily tilts towardsjoe biden. the other thing to remember is that even when you've got votes outstanding in the republican areas, but remember what they are counting as the mail—in votes, and that leans disproportionately towards democrats. so even in those republican counties around the state, there is every reason to think thatjoe biden can make up the difference. just looking at pennsylvania here, you can see 93% of the vote now counts, and it's about 600,000 votes, and he has donald trump a lead of 114,000. similarly in georgia, it's the same format. they counted the in person votes first. they are now counting the absentee ballot. you can see it skews heavily towards joe the absentee ballot. you can see it skews heavily towardsjoe biden, and when you look at the lead, he has a lead of the moment, the president come of 13 and have thousands, which for 50,000 votes still to count, sounds like it might be a healthy lead. the problem is they are
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counting in and around atlanta metro area, and fulton county, where there area, and fulton county, where there area, and fulton county, where there are a lot of democratic voters that leads heavily towards joe are a lot of democratic voters that leads heavily towardsjoe biden, and similarly, in other democrat areas in the state. and it's those mail—in ballots. so there's every reason to think that he's going to catch the president in georgia and also in pennsylvania, which is why the bad and campaign is feeling pretty confident. christian, thank you for taking us through that. it's getting very tight as kristin was saying in georgia. it's also getting tight and nevada. the bbc‘s james clayton is in nevada, where we're still awaiting results. james, ifi james, if i had a dollar or a pound for every time i've seen some insane, it taking nevada so long? i'd be a rich man. what is happening? you would be. it'sjust really, really close. they keep saying they want to get it right. essentially, we are going to get much more information tomorrow, or very likely we will not hear anything more today. they are counting 51,000 votes here in clark county, and clark county is by far the most populous county in nevada.
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it contains las vegas. generally, whoever wins this county will win the election. hillary clinton won nevada in 2016, she won clark county by 11 points. at the moment, biden is winning it by about eight points. that might be enough, but it'sjust so, so close. a lot of people weren't expecting nevada to be this close. they were expecting arizona to be close. but the democrats won the state in 2016. it'sjust on a knife edge here. it really is. that's why the registrar here is saying he wants to get every vote completely right, and that is why he said there is a delay. he also said he was concerned for the safety of his sit staff. there have been protests here. so that's one to watch. we will know a lot more by 10am pacific time tomorrow, that's 6pm gmt. and by then, if all of those 51,000 votes are counted in this state, we could get a clear indication of who's wanted. but we don't know. the registrar said we might know i'm saturday, we might
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know and sunday, we might not even know and sunday, we might not even know until next week. so it's still very much up in the air and nevada. my very much up in the air and nevada. my goodness, all right, james, thank you very much indeed. 0fficials my goodness, all right, james, thank you very much indeed. officials in nevada raising the prospect they may not come back to us with a firm result until next week. before even then, the fight over this election is heading into the courts— lots of them. donald trump is threatening to file law suits in some states that are being projected forjoe biden, and others where we have no projection. these lawsuits are trying to stop the counting of votes on the grounds of voter fraud — but so far we've seen no evidence that widespread fraud is happening. nevada is the latest to be sued. this is the co—chair of the trump campaign there. there are examples of thousands of ballots being mailed across this valley in trash cans, in apartment buildings, people getting as many as 18 ballots to their homes. we knew these rules were unclean, and we were told that signatures would save us from all fraud, but to date, we have still not been
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able to observe these signatures. the trump campaign claims 10,000 votes were cast by people who longer live in nevada. ——who no longer live in nevada. that claim was put to an election official in nevada — joe gloria earlier. my response is that we are not aware of any improper ballots that are being processed. they've not presented any evidence to reporters. have they presented any evidence to you? not directly that i'm aware of. let's look at legal action elsewhere — lawsuits have been filed in all these states. any at all. let's take a look at the legal action taking place elsewhere. first lets focus on georgia. it is very tight there. and donald trump's team is seeking a court order to enforce strict voting deadlines — arguing that ballots that arrived late were improperly mixed with valid ballots. according to the new york times — the suit only affects about 53 ballots. 53. georgia has already counted close to five million votes. next wisconcin — joe biden
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is projected to take it — but a recount is possible if the margin of victory is less than 1% of the votes. the trump campaign team says it plans to formally request a recount on other grounds too — citing "irregularities in several "wisconsin counties". again, we've seen no evidence that irregularities are impacting the count. next to michigan — there's a legal challenge there too to stop counting there. and this isn't just playing out in the courts. in the last half—hour, the new york times reporter tweeted... he added... this isn't just plain this isn'tjust plain on courts, you may have seen these pictures from detroit coming in last night. these are donald trump's supporters
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shouted "stop the count" outside a vote counting room — demanding access to the room to monitor the process. according to local media — 200 observers were already inside. next — michigan— there's a legal challenge being heard to stop counting there. both seeking to hold votes counting. again, it's worth reiterating that this is the president of america trying to stop the voting of the counting of votes, that according to state laws, have been legitimately cast. the president actually is ahead in pennsylvania the moment, as christian was explaining, but remember, there are three types of vote in the selection from early in person voting, and election day votes. republicans we normally likely to vote on the day, and those votes get counted more quickly. that means that counts in a number of states, as christian was explaining, have skewed towards trump initially, and as the count goes on and on, biden does better and better. the big question pennsylvania is whether biden can actually close the gap all the way.
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we will see. let's hear the trump adviser who is in philadelphia. democracy dies in darkness. this is the opportunity to shed light on what's going on inside this building. 0ur observers are going to be six feet behind every person who is counting these votes in accordance with the covid protocols. this is a win for every person who has cast a legal ballot in the state of pennsylvania. we are going to going here right now, we are going to start watching what's going on, not from 30 feet away, not from 100 feet away, from six feet away. this is a win. and what you will see is that democrats are going to try and stop this from happening. they are going to repeal this decision because they don't want the american people to know what's going on in here. it's been noticeable that the trump campaign has been enthusiastic about stopping vote counting in states where the president is ahead — less so where he's behind — such as arizona. these are trump supports in arizona last night. this was outside a voting centre in downtown phoenix. protesters yelled "we want trump". reporters at the scene said some
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were armed with guns. you can still hear the chanting. this was inside a ballot counting facility. it was forced to close to the public and the media because of safety concerns. and you can see the heavy police presence. one of the international observer's to the us election has hit out at donald trump — accusing him of a "gross abuse "of office" for demanding the vote count is halted. i a statement — the 0sce said.. the head of the 0sce mission to the us is ambassador urzula gacek. this is what she told the bbc. that every candidate has the right to appeal to the courts. that's one of the reasons why we are actually still here. we are always here beyond election day and i have — which may be of some comfort to you — i have my own
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long—term observers in all the battleground states at the moment, including those states where we have protesters saying, "stop the count." those saying "start the count." we have them in arizona, we have them in wisconsin, we have access to the counting and tabulation now, with the exception of pennsylvania who's state laws do not allow us or any other observers to be present. professor lawrence douglas is an expert in us election law. trump and the looming election meltdown in 2020. hejoins me now from massachusetts. thank you very much, indeed, for your time. how do you assess what the trump campaign is doing with its lawsuits at the moment? was it what you are expecting the trump campaign to do? yes, i think this is entirely the scripts that was predictable, and they are basically engaging in these kind of willy—nilly acts of litigation. you know, ithink as these kind of willy—nilly acts of litigation. you know, i think as you have no doubt pointed out, there is
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a kind of inconsistency to their stance, that is that they are eager to continue the count in states in which they are trailing, and they are eager to stop account in states in which they have a lead. so there's not really any kind of legal principle or legal basis for the positions that they are adopting. it'sjust sheer positions that they are adopting. it's just sheer political expediency. the other thing to point out is it is very unlikely that any of these lawsuits are going to prevail. i believe in dismissing the suit that was brought up in michigan, the federal judge suit that was brought up in michigan, the federaljudge there who was a republican appointee of george w. bush, basically described the suit as meritless, if not frivolous. maybe the final thing to just point out, it's not even clear whether trump really believes he will prevail in these lawsuits. that is that there could be another purpose of these suits which is
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simply to kind of delay the whole count and to further muddy the waters. well, let me ask you about possible delays, because whatever the merits of the lawsuits that the trump campaign are bringing, it's going to take time to consider them all. presumably, there will be more in the coming days as well. is there a possibility that just allowing justice to play out could delay the inauguration, either president from continuing orjoe biden taking over? no. it's couldn't have any effect on that. that is that the inauguration will take place on january that. that is that the inauguration will take place onjanuary 20, needless to say, we are seven weeks away from that date. that is a hard stop. that's actually embedded in oui’ stop. that's actually embedded in our constitution. and ifjoe biden and sub prevailing, he will be inaugurated onjanuary and sub prevailing, he will be inaugurated on january 20 and and sub prevailing, he will be inaugurated onjanuary 20 and donald trump will become a civilian. but what about the situation in which states have not been able to confirm their results because they are working through the various legal
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challenges? rights. so, again, the legal challenges could delay that's, and again, that delay, you know, it's hard to say exactly how long it will carry on. the kind of hard stop date we have is december eight. that's a date that in this election season was established by federal law, basically telling the states they have to figure out who is carrying their state by that time. six days later on december 14, the electors of respective states will actually go to their state capitals to cast their ballot to whoever carried that state. obviously, in order to do that, the electors we have to know would... so we basically have, let's say, another month to sort all of this out. but let's hope that sorting out to process doesn't take nearly that full month. now, let me see consider, for example, one of the lawsuits in georgia, which we understand references under 100 votes. let's imagine that the trump
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campaign is correct, that these votes are problematic, to what degree connect court then say, "welcome these reports are problematic and as of the whole results are problematical stop"|j don't think a court would do that, i think that would be an incredibly responsible thing for a court to do. they would probably engage in what ever kind of remedy that would address these 53 votes that are being challenged now, you know, in the absolute bizarre situation in which the margin separating biden from trump is less than 53 votes, thatisif from trump is less than 53 votes, that is if biden prevails by 51 votes, i suppose that could have a material effect on the outcome of that race, but otherwise, it really isjust, i think, that race, but otherwise, it really isjust, ithink, a that race, but otherwise, it really isjust, i think, a stalling tactic and muddying the waters tactic, and again, it doesn't necessarily serve again, it doesn't necessarily serve a legal end, but it does serve a political ends, because i think that is what trump is trying to do. he's trying to simply keep the water so
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muddy that at least his supporters will continue to believe that he has been reelected. professor douglas, pick you very much indeed for speaking to us. we appreciate it. the delay to the result has created the perfect conditions for disinformation. we've seen claims about ballot burning, claims about the dumping of fraudulent votes, claims that the election is rigged. and it's all being fed by the president and his family, colleagues and supporters. and all without evidence. here's president trump claiming... there is no evidence of secretly dumped ballots. several states always planned to count for several days after voting stopped. here's prominent right wing commentator dinest d'souza saying... he shares a video of trump lawyer rudy giulani to back that up. though there's nothing in the video that does that. to reiterate — everything that's happening with ballot counting is entirely as planned. in a quite different way, so is the trump administration's criticism of the democratic process. it's been doing this for months.
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then there's this from president's son eric trump. he retweeted a video which falsely claims to show a polling station worker burning ballots. the video was viewed at least half a million times before it was removed by twitter. here's a snippet. yeah. donald trump, you gotta do what you've got to do. talk trump. bleep trump. got around 80. bleep trump. to reiterate — it doesn't show ballots being burned — it shows sample ballots. but eric trump's tweet is still there. our disinformation reporter marianna spring has looked into this.hi marianna — one. to what degree is this message of the democrats stealing the election resonating with mr trump's supporters online? it's gone incredible viral online. we are seeing repeated unsubstantiated or
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false claims about come as you say, ballot burning, ballot dumping, suggesting that trump voters were asked to use certain bits of stationery like sharpies to fill in their ballot form so that those ballots would then not be counted. all kinds of different conspiracies and disinformation as well as just unsubstantiated claims, and that's not a surprise when those same claims have been echoed by president trump on his twitter feed and videos like this have been by eric trump. in some ways though, it's not that surprising, especially for someone like me who has spent months investigating viral disinformation about the selection. this information about voting, particularly postal voting has been spread on social media for months 110w. spread on social media for months now. it was first shared by trump backin now. it was first shared by trump back in april. so it's not surprising that there is a fertile ground for this to spread. people have been seeing this trip of conspiracy theory content for a very long time, and coupled with that is this conspiracy theory mentality. i've spoken to you about 0 and on
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before, that baseless conspiracy theory that suggests president trump is waging a secret were against satanic paedophiles commend its belief system is that essentially a deep state is wrecking everything against president trump. if you have been seeing q and on disinformation and believe that's the case, then of course when you see videos like the one you just showed, you would be really worried. marianna, don't go anywhere, because there are some things ijust marianna, don't go anywhere, because there are some things i just want to show everyone. this is about an article you've been writing today. large facebook groups like this — called "stop the steal" — echoing the president's unsibsta ntiated claim that the election was being stolen from him. the largest group had over 300,000 members — a facebook spokesperson says it took action because of "worrying "calls for violence" in the group "which was creating "real—world events". this is a really, really big facebook group that sprung up yesterday but have 300,000 members when it was taken down. in the time i've been covering it that's the afternoon, it had acquired a most 100,000 new members. there are other groups which also have sizeable
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numbers of members and local groups as well focused on this hashtag, stop the steel, one that went viral on polling night and was based around these allegations of voter fraud and of rigged elections. and in this facebook group, there were dozens in this facebook group, there were d oze ns of in this facebook group, there were dozens of comments calling for people not only to take to the streets are to riot and loot but actually suggesting that people should call to arms that people should call to arms that people should pick up guns and go and do something about it and this facebook group had actually organised a number of events as well for pro trump supporters to get involved in. it was a real worry, something that we came across this afternoon and that bbc news flag to facebook because there were so many threats in this group. thank you very much indeed. of course, we will bring you up to as we continue to follow the votes as we continue to follow the votes as they come into all these key states which have yet to be projected such as pennsylvania, georgia, obviously been a very close eye on the vatican although, if you are watching a few minutes ago, we we re are watching a few minutes ago, we were talking about one official there who says this could take into next week in nevada. we will have to
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see if that's the case, but of course, in the next hour or two, i will keep you well up to date. i will keep you well up to date. i will see you in a minute. hello there. we had some big temperature contrasts across the uk on thursday. in the south, temperatures got to a ten or 11 degrees in the sunshine, but across the north it was much warmer than that with highs of 18 degrees in durham and widely across northern scotland, 15 or 16 degrees. the reason we had those big contrasts in that temperatures comes about because of, in part, where the air came from. the start of the month, this cooler air in the south was sat across canada, whereas this much milder airfurther north was sat around the bahamas and that is partly why we had those high temperatures across northern areas, the fern effect also helped boost the temperaturse and bring that warm air down to the surface. looking at the weather picture overnight, those differences in air masses lead to quite different weather overnight. mist and fog again for england and wales with those temperatures in the countryside dropping below
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freezing, so frost in places. scotland and northern ireland, it stays quite cloudy and relatively mild as well. so, for friday, further contrasts around. mist and fog across england and wales will tend to lift into low cloud. that could lingerfor a time before breaking with spells of sunshine coming through. the best of the sunshine really is we have through the afternoon. for scotland, probably quite cloudy and notice a much cooler day for aberdeen, 12 degrees here compared with the 16 we had on thursday afternoon. the weekend sees the wind switch more south or south easterly direction. we do have weather fronts on the charge moving across the uk and they will be bringing rain at times. so, on the weather menu for the weekend, it does tend to become cloudier through the weekend with some spells of rain, it will eventually turn milderfrom the south. that milder air would be moving in across parts of england and wales as we go through saturday,
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so that milder air will come more cloud and temperatures of 15 or 16 degrees through the afternoon with the threat of rain throughout the southwest of england. a cold and frosty start for the north with some fog patches. after that frosty start in glasgow those temperatures will struggle with highs of seven celsius. for sunday, notice much more in the way of cloud widely across the uk and there will be some further outbreaks of rain, the rain heavier and probably more widespread as well. it will start to turn that bit milder. 11 degrees in glasgow and 15 or 16 in cardiff and london. that's your weather.
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. joe biden is closing the gap in the race for the white house but either candidate could still win it. counting continues in the key states — georgia, arizona, nevada and pennsylvania are among those still to declare. the trump campaign launches multiple lawsuits — they want a recount in wisconsin — and donald trump wants late arriving votes to be thrown out. trump supporters have been protesting outside some counting centres, claiming the process is unfair. the biden campaign meanwhile wants every vote to be counted. i'm not here to declare that we have one but i am here to report that when accounting is finished, we believe we will be the winners.
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also coming up, the uk government extends its support for furloughed workers, to the end of march. today's announcement will give people and businesses up and down oui’ people and businesses up and down our country the immense comfort over what will be a difficult winter. and on the very day england goes back into lockdown the government promises, that particular measure will end by christmas. let's return to the us election and look at the state of georgia. inafew in a few minutes we will return to wisconsin which has been projected by the bbc forjoe biden. earlier in election out it looked like george was going donald trump's way. but because mail—in ballot take longer
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to count on the day things are twisting and turning in georgia and 110w twisting and turning in georgia and now it is very tight and we still do not know which weight is is going to go. our reporter is with us. bring it up to date please. right now, president trump is leading but in a very, very tight lead overjoe biden 15,000 votes. we still have tens of thousands of votes to come. we have about 60,000. the difference between them is about 0.25% which is small compared to the med are people who vote in the state. behind me as a protest that has broken out by trump supporters who want a transparent count and i think that is not happening. this is outside accounting centre in fulton county which is the largest in the state of georgia. tommy is with me and he is one of the people... why are you
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here? i am concerned about votes being cancelled out. how? it took me 30 years to become a us citizen to be able to vote in the selection and that i have voted, it seems like all the votes have been cancelled. they're bringing in a large amount of votes for a particular polling station and 100% of those votes are cut for example for biden only. there is no evidence of that, is there? i haven't seen the evidence and the people who are watching the cou nty and the people who are watching the county are independent. it would be so county are independent. it would be so much better if they had a group there are republican and a group that i democratic so we know what their stance is. and still somebody who is independent because even independent people have opinions and they could easily make a slide in their favour. i have been they could easily make a slide in theirfavour. i have been in they could easily make a slide in their favour. i have been in there accounting station and that is the way the system works here. you're a biden supporter. i am.
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way the system works here. you're a biden supporter. iam. do way the system works here. you're a biden supporter. i am. do you think there is a possibility of something going wrong? i was a poll watcher on tuesday and he was talking about the precinct having 100% of votes. i have not heard about that. i can tell you the precinct i worked in was 90% —— 93%. tell you the precinct i worked in was 90% -- 93%. it tell you the precinct i worked in was 90% —— 93%. it is not unheard of to have a very high percentage of people. i think you have a high numberof people. i think you have a high number of democratic votes that came in as mail—in because they tend to ta ke in as mail—in because they tend to take the pandemic more seriously and do not want to vote in person and those of the votes that are being counted right now mostly. georgia is so counted right now mostly. georgia is so tight at the moment how do you feel? all, it makes me thrilled, thrilled. this state has been solidly republican for a very long time. the governor race last time was so time. the governor race last time was so close the last time so stacey abrahams now has a fair fight club but i think has contributed
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immensely to george colleen, at least purple if not read. that is the view here in atlanta where we are watching what will happen here. let's go state to from atlanta, georgia to milwaukee in wisconsin. wisconsin is found herself right in the centre of the story. we will probably be seeing an army of lawyers heading this way after donald trump demanded a recount here. as you say, the bbc has projected forjoe biden with less than 21,000 votes, very much mirroring what happened here in 2016 when donald trump won the state and beat hillary clinton by less than 23,000 votes. election commission yesterday called for calm and asked for patients so that the process was meticulous, transparent, open to public scrutiny, that they have live streamed the whole counting process so streamed the whole counting process so there was nothing there that could point to any kind of voter
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fraud. i have been going to donald trump rallies for the last week and he really has been laying the groundwork for the whole idea that there was voter fraud in some sort of way. and he was telling his supporters this. we were not surprised at all to hear him say this. of course, he is an position to be able to request a recount because you can if the margin is 1% 01’ because you can if the margin is 1% or less. from the count at this point, it is actually under 1%. donald trump can do that but he cannot do it until december the 1st when the state certifies the results. this was a state that donald trump won in 2016. why do we think some of that support may have ebbed away? i travelled to rural wisconsin and lawn sign after lawn sign after lawn sign showed support for donald trump. he still has a lot of support in places in the rural
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parts of the state where the workers are, the labourers are. but there was one particular area, green bay which was counting right to the very end and 4000 votes was what one in a particular area. there are a lot of labourers and farmers there and frankly the ones i spoke to were fed up frankly the ones i spoke to were fed up with all the promises that donald trump had made them and their situation had not changed in the last four years stop he still has a solid base here but it clearly was not enough for him to in the state. thank you very much indeed. we have live reports from atlanta and georgie and milwaukee in wisconsin. while we continue to wait for a winner in this election, we have a huge amount of data and why and how people voted. we know the turnout is huge. this is how the preliminary turner co m pa res this is how the preliminary turner compares with previous elections. is the highest since 1900. this is how this translated to the popular vote,
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the single national count. joe biden is leading but donald trump has received several million more votes than he did in 2016. we should emphasise that while this is interesting, the popular vote is not how america picks its president. whether donald trump wins or loses this time, that is connected to the little college. the numbers tell us that many americans want him to continue. we can see the exit poll helps to understand why. many observers felt that this election would be a referendum on his handling of the pandemic, but actually 25% of voters surveyed and exit poll said the economy was the number one issue for them. we know that donald trump talked about that issue a lot more thanjoe biden did. we have also learned about key elements of the electorate. there is a breakdown for the exit poll from edison research. joe biden's percent are blue and donald trump red. see african—american is heavily backed biden and here is more. again, biden blue, trump and read. american men
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skew towards trump and american women skewed towards biden. but the number of women, especially suburban women, of the biden campaign won over was perhaps not as high as some anticipated. bear in mind that in 2016 trump won decisively in suburban and rural areas and according to the exit poll, joe biden has managed to slip some suburban voters. he has a three—point margin lead over trump. but we will have to say that enough. the financial times points out that the party has made significant gains in the democrats with suburban women. interestingly, joe biden has not managed to hold on to other districts that he won in 2018. not to digest, thomas gift is the director of centre of us politics in new tom, it is good to speak to you. let us look at the latinos vote. before we talk with a latina vote, one suburban women? donald trump said that suburban women, why don't you love me? he wanted them to
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support him. how do we do numbers in that? biden did when suburban women with about 85% of that demographic, but the marriage was less than he hoped. at one point in the campaign trump had notoriously said suburban women, please like me. there were serious concerns within trump a campaign that support and women would significant the or abandon the president because of is to previous actions and policies. but those concerns did not materialise. it is ha rd to concerns did not materialise. it is hard to know exactly why, it could be that his law and order message resonated throughout the summer and fall in the wake of the social injustice protests. he did make law and order a sense central feature. he said the democrats are soft on crime and he was the only firewall between security and rest in the suburbs. it is possible that message did connect with a certain number of suburban women. as i was saying, i wa nt to suburban women. as i was saying, i want to talk with a latina vote. the polls had joe biden ahead in states like florida trump is projected to
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ta ke like florida trump is projected to take it. in florida we think president trump will do better than in 2016 and part of that is a strong performance with latina voters. let us performance with latina voters. let us hearfrom. the social policies was one of the key areas where trump invested time in. it is also important to note that they focused on the economy. one of the number one issues for hispanics across the state, particularly now with the pandemic, the trump campaign would host round ta bles the trump campaign would host round tables with entrepreneurs, they hosted events specifically with latinas, they hosted an event specifically from venezuela. how do we trump on's performance with reference to latina voters? the latina vote did play a central role in the election. what we see is a
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nuanced picture which indicates to the extent of diversity within this voting block. one of the reasons why biden has turned the crucial state of arizona from republican to democrat was that he won latina at a rate of two to one. by contrast, as we know is, in florida, by the support among latinas was much less. he only captured by 50% of that vote which gave trump a major boost in winning the state. broadly i think that these patterns reflect different experiences and political outlooks of latina voters. in florida there is a large proportion of cuban—americans with a history of playing demarcating socialism. they tend to be more conservative. in arizona there is a higher proportion of mexican—americans with a history of mexican—americans with a history of escaping to the us in search of economic opportunity. it does show really how those minority groups cannot just be really how those minority groups cannotjust be viewed as biden voters. let us pause forjust
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a moment on the us election. the government has extended its wage support scheme for furloughed workers until the end of march. that's a significant shift in government policy. and a second national lockdown has come into force in england unitl at least december two. that's also a signiicant shift in government policy. but the prime minister has insisted that the lockdown is time limited. i went to assure you this is not a repeat of the spring. schools, universities, nurseries are all staying open, and these measures, though they are tough, are time limited. the advice i've received suggests that for weeks is enough for these measures to make a real impact. so, these rules will expire, and on the 2nd of december, we plan to move back to a tiered approach. there is light at the end of the tunnel. here's some more detail on what the lockdown will entail so pubs and restaurants are now closed but takeaways can stay open.
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non—essential shops and entertainment venues are also closed. people can't mix with other households in homes or gardens but meeting one other person in a public space is allowed. and schools and universitites will remain open. the uk is averaging over 22,000 new covid cases. here's the chancellor, the finance minister, rishi sunak explain why the furlough wage support scheme is being extended. the only solution left to protect our nhs was the re—imposition of temporary significant enhanced restrictions in england in addition to those in wales, northern ireland and scotland. so, given these changed public health restrictions and the economic trauma they would cause and job losses and business closures, i felt it best to extend the furlough scheme rather than transition at that precise moment to the new job support scheme. jim pickard from the financial times: "i know everyone is distracted by the usa
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but rishi sunak extending the entire 80% furlough to the spring is a huge u—turn — even by the standards of this, the government of the u—turns* — and a reminder of the grim winter prognosis". newsnight policy editor lewis goodall ‘been a lot of praise for the chancellor and a lot of criticism of anneliese dodds, in parliament, rishi sunak tried to get ahead of criticism of the shift. our political opponents have chosen to attack the government for trying to keep the economy functioning and to make sure the support we provide encourages people to keep working. and they will now, no doubt, criticise the government on the basis we've had to change our approach. helen catt by westminsterwhy
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the change, how much of this was labour's proposal? is the oppositional side of this plan? yes. that 8% figure has been what labour has been pushing for consistently since the government announced —— 80%. over the summer, the labour have been open to the idea of it not being a blanket extension of furlough, there should be more targeted support and it should be extended to certain sectors which were worst hit. but they have stood by this 80% figure. that it should come to that 80% of a worker's monthly wage. derek stick 01’ worker's monthly wage. derek stick or exceptions extension now but a think it is coming too late for people who have nay been laid off because their bosses and businesses have looked ahead and the government was adamant they were not going to extend this scheme and they might have made decisions based on that. the government has said that they went back to this sort of people we re went back to this sort of people were employed in a certain point in september, they will still qualify.
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thank you. even before today's decision, government spending and government borrowing has rocketed since the pandemic began. it has £2 trillion of debt. and the national debt is now over 103.5% of the uk's gdp. the last time debt as a proportion of the economy was so large was 1960. so far this year, 2020 the government has borrowed over £170 billion. it's estimated the furlough programme cost the government roughly £60 billion from march to october. the extension will cost tens of billions more. rishi sunak says the security the furlough scheme provides will protect millions ofjobs — the argument being that in time will help the economy to expand. but because of when this decision has been taken — some businesses that expected the furlough scheme to end in the next month, some people have already been laid off. i suppose that is why this makes this a complex political
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calculation. yes. it is also a huge financial commitment for the government. this is going to be more colossal spending for it to keep this going until march. although there is a review point injanuary so there is a review point injanuary so the chancellor could look at it and decide to taper it as they did in the summerand and decide to taper it as they did in the summer and make employers start putting more. he has also put more money into this girl scene but also for those who are self—employed. they're also for those who are self—employed. they‘ re going also for those who are self—employed. they're going to get 80% of their average profits for november, december and january, which is much more generous than originally had been planned. that is another big cost as well. what is interesting today is the chancellor saying that he is the chancellor for the whole of the united kingdom, so even though the lockdown effectjust ended at the moment. that is really important because what we have seen recently is that we have shone a light on how the uk is managed. the treasury hosed her purse bring for all of the uk but these knock—downs have been set as an individual and national level that is why the england lockdown scotland and wales
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and northern ireland coming out next week. we're hearing from scotland and wales that the first minister from scotland is saying that the acid test is going to be if this furlough scheme continues when england is out of lockdown. wes is asking it to be backdated to its firebreak. thank you. we are going to tack back to the us election soon. to tack back to the us election soon. we will look at how it is being covered. i also do different media. the world health organisation is warning of an explosion of coronavirus cases across europe. the uk is not alone in struggling to contain this second wave of the pandemic. our science editor david shukman has been looking atjust how bad it is here. staff at bradford royal infirmary today facing a sudden rush of patients with covid—19. they have got more cases now
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than at the peak earlier this year. a pattern already emerging in a few other hospitals. so what's the latest picture across the uk? this map shows where numbers of infections are highest. in northern england and in parts of wales, northern ireland and scotland. the most up—to—date figures for hospital admissions show increases in every english region, some faster than others. this is not really speculation, this is fact, and we know that in certain parts of the country, the number of coronavirus patients that hospitals are looking after is already significantly over the number that they were having to cope with during the april first peak. but that's not true everywhere, fortunately. we've got parts of the country where, actually, coronavirus is rising, but nevertheless, hospitals are coping well. so what exactly is the aim of the new restrictions? well, it's to try to keep
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the virus under control. the less people get together, the fewer chances there are of infection. a key indicator is what's called the r number, basically a measure of how much the virus is being spread. earlier this year, it was running at nearly 3, meaning that anyone who was infected was, on average passing the virus to three others. the first lockdown brought that right down to below 1. 1 is the critical threshold, because below it, the epidemic slows down rather than speeds up. right now, the government estimates we are up to 1.3, and the hope is that all the different restrictions around the uk will bring that right down again. we hear as ever in the bbc newsroom. the counting goes on in the us election and so far their initial couege election and so far their initial college count joe election and so far their initial college countjoe biden is ahead. as
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you know, the eyes of the world are un—american at the moment, so than ever and it has been really interesting to see how different media are grappling how to convey the gravity and the uncertainty of the gravity and the uncertainty of the situation. let's have a look at ellen linda in spain says that... next is, there are plenty of layers to this the global shy times in china says... russia's daily newspaper says... the daily maverick in south africa says... donald trump holding a knife to statue of liberty saying... bbc
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monitoring tracks media all round the world. let us start with latin america, luis. how you seen the election being covered. ? in latin america they are using this as an opportunity to get even at past criticisms that the us are directed towards their countries and government for example in the case of several leaders. for example in venezuela, the ultima noticias was covering... luis, thank you very much indeed. tv graphics, big moments of course. let us look further afield to japan. one broadcaster they're further afield to japan. one broadcaster they‘ re really rose further afield to japan. one broadcaster they're really rose to the occasion. speaks in japanese. we
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speaks injapanese. we have a win forjoe biden. these are quite chippy mascots. gb means the short for a thing chippy mascots. gb means the short fora thing in chippy mascots. gb means the short for a thing injapan. chippy mascots. gb means the short fora thing injapan. this chippy mascots. gb means the short for a thing injapan. this was trump pulling ahead. double fist pump, there. this is what the election looks like in an anime and gaming country. another japanese tv looks like in an anime and gaming country. anotherjapanese tv company showed the swing states is literally being on fire. these, a hard act to follow. that is right, the most cases in media all over the world and latin america. mass fascination about what is happening but again a sense of seeing things that often american things have criticised the government and in their countries and now seeing the situation. countries in latin america saying that this is a situation like no other. it is an almost dystopian terms they were referring to it as an electoral nightmare in the us.
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extreme interest in following what is going to be the eventual outcome of this election. thank you very much, luis. let's reiterate where we have gotte n much, luis. let's reiterate where we have gotten in this extraordinary story in the us. at the moment, joe biden is on 250 literal college votes —— 253 and donald trump is 214. but the number they care about is 270. the system does not take its president on a single popular vote. each state votes and in the winner, even by one vote or1 million because of the literal college votes. and that is why we are focused on a small number of states, pennsylvania, georgia, nevada, arizona. these are the states which will decide who will be the president of america next year and into the next three years beyond. stay with us on the bbc because we will bring you every twist and turn.
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see you in a moment. how do we have some big temperature contrast across the uk. tibbs got a ten or 11 degrees but in the north there was much warmer than that with highs of up to 18 degrees in durham and widely across northern scotland at 15 or 16 degrees. the reason we had those big contrasts in temperatures comes about because of impart where the air came from. at the start of the month this cooler air in the south was set across canada, whereas this much milder air further north actually at the start of the month was sat round the bahamas. and that is partly why we had those high temperatures across northern areas, the fern effect also helped to bring those warmer air down to the surface. at the winner picture of an outcome of those differences in air masses lead to
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quite different weather overnight. mist and fog again for england and wales with their temperatures in the countryside dropping to below freezing. frost in places. scotland and northern ireland will stay quite loudly and relatively mild as well. for friday, further contrast around. the mist and fog crossing that in wales will tend to lift into low cloud. that could lingerfor a time for thinning and breaking with spells of sunshine coming through. probably the best of the sunshine really is we had to the afternoon. in scotland it will be quite cloudy and at cooler day for the likes of aberdeen, 12 degrees here compared to 16 during thursday afternoon. the weekend, it will see a switch to a south or south easterly direction and we do have weather fronts on the chart moving across the uk and they will be bringing rain at times. on the weather menu for the weekend it does tend to become cloudier through the weekend with some spells of rain and it will eventually turn milder from the south. that milder air would be moving in across part of england and wales as we go through
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saturday. that milder air comes a lot of clout and temperatures of about 15 or 16 degrees through the afternoon with the threat of a bit of rain to the south—west of england. a cold and frosty start for the south—west of england. a cold and frosty start further north with some rusty patches and in that frosty start in glasgow does temperatures will struggle with highs of only seven celsius. for sunday you will notice much more in the way of cloud across the uk and there will be some further outbreaks of rain with the rain heavier and more widespread as well. but it will start to trend that it milder. 11 degrees in glasgow and 15 or 16 in cardiff and london. that is your weather.
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. the race for the white house is still on. as votes are still being counted — the result now hinges on the states of arizona, nevada, pennsylvania and georgia — all are still to declare. we're expecting an update from the state of georgia in the next few minutes — we'll bring you that live. the trump campaign launches a number of legal bids to stop the count — and they want late arriving votes to be thrown out. trump supporters have been protesting — claiming the process is unfair. the biden campaign meanwhile are urging every vote to be counted. i'm not here to declare that we won
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but i am here to report when the count is finished we believe we will be the winners. another day for america's democracy. the president is making baseless accusations of electoral fraud and attempts to steal the election. his son eric is pushing misinformation about ballot burning — when there's no evidence that that is happening. his campaign is launching multiple lawsuits to stop vote counting — when the counting of votes after election day is a standard part of the electoral process. and international election observers are accusing the president of a ‘gross abuse of office'. now the donald trump repeatedly attacked america's democratic process during the campaign — so the last two days are not entirely a surprise. but reaction around the world shows us the president still has the capacity to shock. for better orfor worse, this is not american democracy as people normally see it. and still the count goes on.
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let's begin with where we've got to with the electoral college projections. the bbc now hasjoe biden on 253 votes, and donald trump on 214. whoever gets 270 electoral college is president. in the last few hours, the bbc has projected wisconsin forjoe biden. i should, though, say if the result is within1%, there could be a recount. we have no projection for pennsylvania and its 20 electoral votes. we're also focused on georgia, arizona and nevada. also in the popular vote, joe biden has 50%, donald trump 47%. but remember — all the votes are not yet counted. we do know that alreadyjoe biden has received over 70 million votes, more than any other presidential candidate in history. though, remember, the national vote is not what counts here. it's all about the electoral college — this is the system where winning individual states gives candidates a certain number of electoral college votes. it's those votes which will can
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make them president. donald trump has repeatedly asserted — without evidence — that people are trying to "steal" the election from him. and, we must stress, the counting currently under way is a completely normal part of the process. mail—in ballots are routinely counted — but not cast — after election day. they almost must be cast on election day at the latest. and we know there's been a record number of mail—in ballots this year in part because of changing habits of particularly because of the pandemic. but it hasn't stopped the president repeatedly making this claim. earlier, he tweeted: "stop the count" and ‘any vote that came in after election day will not be counted!'. if they took that approach in arizona and nevada, joe biden has won the election. for his part, joe biden has tweeted — in the past few hours —
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‘be patient, folks. where we are.‘ christian fraser has been looking at the current state i think we can probably ignore north carolina at the moment. the president they're not shifted in last 24 hours. i want to see the route thatjoe biden has at the moment the white house. he really has three votes. the simplest is that one. pennsylvania takes into 273. but he has other routes because over the last few hours georgia has been tightening, so if he won georgia, if you took the votes that he needs, needs around 13,500 votes to ove rco m e he needs, needs around 13,500 votes to overcome and catch the president and then he had never added as is home, so that is one—vote to, and then of course he has a head south—west, he doesn't even need pennsylvania, we can just put him south—west, he doesn't even need pennsylvania, we canjust put him in blue there and with nevada it comes
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to exactly 270. for the president it is more difficult. you need to pennsylvania. pennsylvania is that i saw him. if he takes georgia, hangs in there, north carolina, wins arizona in the ladette where he is behind at the moment he is still on 262, so it is much tougherfor their president. —— arizona and nevada. i understand why he wants to stop the count here because he is in front in these states and the more they count these states and the more they count the more that lady has slipped away but if they stop the count over here joe biden is already home on 270. cook clearly one of the things that is frustrating donald trump is that he had big leads and some of these states in these leads are going down and down but we did expect that to happen, didn't we? yet, of course we did, andi happen, didn't we? yet, of course we did, and i want to talk about pennsylvania in particular because we we re pennsylvania in particular because we were warned ahead of the election that what they were going to do was
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count first of all the in—person votes so what we are looking at at the moment is the absentee vote, it is in places like philadelphia, cou nty is in places like philadelphia, county delhi were, down in the south—west of the state and etc over in the western part of the state which is around pittsburgh and you can see heavily tilts towards joe biden and the other thing to remember is that even when you have got votes outstanding in republican areas, remember that what the accounting is the mailing votes that leads disproportionately towards democrats even in those republican counties around the state there is every reason to think thatjoe biden can make the distance goal difference. 93% of the vote now counted in pennsylvania and donald trump asa counted in pennsylvania and donald trump as a lead of 414,000. similarly in georgia as it is the same format, they counted the in—person vote first, now counting the absentee vote ballot, you can see it skews heavily towards joe biden and we look at the lead he has
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a lead at the moment, the president, of 13,500 with 50,000 votes still to count which sounds like it might be a healthy league might lead what the problem is that counting aloud about the atla nta problem is that counting aloud about the atlanta metro area where there are the atlanta metro area where there a re lots of the atlanta metro area where there are lots of democrat votes it leans heavily towards joe biden are lots of democrat votes it leans heavily towardsjoe biden and similarly another democrat areas in the state and it is a mail—in ballot so there is every reason to think that he is going to catch the president in georgia and also pennsylvania which is why the biden campus feeling pretty confident. thanks to christian. let's go to georgia, where an election official there, is holding a press conference... our great elections director is working to get through. she is very much on the side of being accurate rather than being fast in some ways which is really good and helpful because she is a very diligent
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director. has 7305, again, with the work of our monitor and there we are taking a close eye on that number. there were 1200 ballots in the second stage of signature match. they were brought over today and i'm inside that total. was another specific item i have is they have 3900 divisional provisionals. i do not know the coding on those provisionals. as you may or may not know, depending on the coding, there has to be actions done by the voter and then there is an automatic a cce pta nce and then there is an automatic acceptance the ballots. again, depending on how that is denied to other details. we had discussions with them on why they had a 77 —— 7700 out there. the actual total is 40,000 absentee 7700 out there. the actual total is 40 , 000 absentee ballots 7700 out there. the actual total is 40,000 absentee ballots to scan and report and they do have an issue
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that was asked about earlier this morning that they had a corrupt memory card in one of the early voting icps, the polling place scanners, they discovered that, they took the ballots from that, they rescanned those and those will be included in the totals that approximately 400 vote and it isn't included in the 4800. it is the benefit of having the paperback up that if there was a clear you can ta ke that if there was a clear you can take care of those. —— that is included in the 4800. they are trying to figure out exactly where the batches are for the 797 because they had felt they had uploaded them and then they looked and realise that they have not. taylor had a unique issue. they did their absentee balance printing in—house. something along the way may be the ballots not the appropriate sides so if you have a ballots... so that is
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georgia's state—wide voting system implementation manager and, as you can hear, things are getting granular in this us election because in the case of georgia we're down to, well, not the last few votes but certainly a majority of votes have counted. we know the tallies are very close and so the remaining votes to be counted are absolutely crucial as both men seek to reach 270 in the electoral college. now, if you have been following the count towards the electoral college in the last couple of days that they have been times when you are confused. now if you've been seeing different tallies on various news sites all day, you might well be confused. that's because different
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outlets get their data from different sources. this is new york times — it's projecting 253 electoral college votes forjoe biden. that's including wisconsin — which we know may be subject to a recount because it's so close. this is fox news... it's projecting 264 electoral college votes forjoe biden. that's including arizona which has 86 % of ballots counted. that's not in our projection. this year, the bbc gets its data via reuters, from polling firm edison research. but‘s where you get these different figures. we will all agree on the end and who is the winner, i promise. james clayton is in nevada, where we're still awaiting results. just really, really close and they keep saying they wa nt to want to get it right. likely we are not going to hear anything more tomorrow. they're not going to hear anything more tomorrow. they‘ re counting not going to hear anything more tomorrow. they're counting 50,000 votes platte county which is by far the most populous county in nevada, contains las vegas and generally whoever wins this county will win the election. hillary clinton one clark county in 2016. at the moment biden is winning by about eight points, which might be enough but is just so, so close. a lot of people
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weren't expecting nevada to be this close, they were expecting arizona to be close but democrats won the state, remember, in 2016. it isjust ona state, remember, in 2016. it isjust on a knife edge, it really is, and thatis on a knife edge, it really is, and that is why the registrar here has said he wants to get every vote com pletely said he wants to get every vote completely right and that is why he has said that there is a delay. he also said that he was concerned for the safety of the staff. there have been protests here so that is one to watch. we will know a lot more by 10am pacific time tomorrow. that is 6pm gmt. by then, if all of those 51,000 votes are counted in the state, we could get a clear indication of who has won it but we don't know. the registrar also said we might know on saturday, we might know on sunday, we might not even know on sunday, we might not even know till next week so it is still very much up in the air in nevada. so, just to reiterate, we may not get the final result in nevada until next week. a mentally prepared for that? it is going to be a twisty
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attorney few days i suspect. now, the fight over the selection is already heading to court, in fact heading to lots of them. the fight over the election is heading into the courts — lots of them. donald trump is threatening to file law suits in some states that are being projected forjoe biden, and others where we have no projection. these lawsuits are trying to stop the counting of votes on the grounds of voter fraud — but so far we've seen no evidence that widespread fraud is happening. nevada is the latest to be sued. this is the co—chair of the trump campaign there. there are examples of thousands of ballots being mailed across this valley in trash cans, in apartment buildings, in people getting as many as 18 ballots to their homes, we knew these bowls were unclean and we we re knew these bowls were unclean and we were told that signatures would save us from all fraud but to date we still have not been able to observe these signatures. the trump campaign claims 10,000 votes were cast by people who longer live in nevada. that claim was put to nevada election official joe gloria earlier.
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my my response is that we are not aware of any improper ballots that are being processed. not directly that i am aware of. let's look at legal action elsewhere — lawsuits have been filed in all these states. first lets focus on georgia. it is very tight there. and donald trump's team is seeking a court order to enforce strict voting deadlines — arguing that ballots that arrived late were improperly mixed with valid ballots. according to the new york times — the suit only affects about 53 ballots. 53. bear in mind georgia has already counted close to 5 million votes. next wisconcin — joe biden is projected to take it — but a recount is possible if the margin of victory is less than 1% of the votes. the trump campaign team says it plans to formally request a recount on other grounds too — citing "irregularities in several wisconsin counties". again we've seen no evidence that irregularities are impacting the count. next — michigan— donald trump's legal challenge to stop counting there has been delivered a blow. in the past hour new york times
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reporter evan hill has tweeted... he added... all of this isn'tjust playing out in the courts. you may have seen these pictures from detroit last night. these are donald trump's supporters shouted "stop the count" outside a vote counting room — demanding access to the room to monitor the process. according to local media — 200 observers were already inside. staying in the mid west — the trump campaign has two lawsuits in pennsylvania both seeking to halt vote counting. again — it is worth reiterating — this is the president of america trying to stop the counting of votes that, according to state laws, have been legitimately cast. (biv)the president's actually ahead in the pennsylania count so far — and the big question is whether biden can close the gap. we'll see.
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here's trump advisor corey lewandoski in philadelphia. democracy dies in darkness. this is the opportunity to shed light on what is going on inside this building. our observers are going to be six feet behind every person who is casting these votes in accordance with the coded protocol. this is a win for every person who has cast a legal ballots in the state of pennsylvania. we are going to go in here right now, start watching what is going on, not from 30 feet away, not from 100 feet away, from six feet away, this is a win and what you will see as the democrats will try and stop this from happening, they will appeal this decision because they don't want the american people to know what is going on in here. it's been noticeable that the trump
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campaign has been perhaps a little more enthusiastic about stopping vote counting in states where the president is ahead — less so where he's behind — such as arizona. these are trump supports in arizona last night. this was outside a voting centre in downtown phoenix. biggest city in arizona. protesters yelled ‘we want trump'. reporters at the scene said some were armed with guns. you can hear the chant even inside a ballot counting facility. it was forced to close to the public and the media because of safety concerns. you can see the heavy police presence because of the situation. the international observer mission to the us election has hit out at donald trump — calling his claims "baseless allegations" which can "harm public trust in democratic institutions". ambassador urzula gacek is the head of the osce mission — and she's been speaking to the bbc. that every candidate has the right to appeal to the courts and that is
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the one with the reasons why we are actually still here. we are always here beyond election day and i have, which might be of some comfort to you, i have my own long—term observers in all the battleground states at the moment, including those states where we have protesters saying stop the count, those saying to start the count, we have them in arizona, we have them in wisconsin, we have access to the counting and tabulation now, mainly tabulation process, with the exception of pennsylvania whose state laws do not and ours or any other observers to be present. —— do not allow us or any other observers to present. professor lawrence douglas is an expert in us election law. he's the author of — "‘will he go?: trump and the looming election meltdown in 2020'. this is his assessment of the lawsuits. i think this is entirely the script that was predictable and they are basically engaging in these kind of with the nearly acts of litigation. you know, ithink, as
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with the nearly acts of litigation. you know, i think, as you have no doubt pointed out, there is a kind of inconsistency to their stance, thatis of inconsistency to their stance, that is they are eager to continue the count in state in which they are trailing and they are eagled down or eager to stop the count and in states in which they have a leave so there is not really any kind of principles legal basis for the positions that they are adopting. it's just sheer political expediency. and the other thing to point out is it's very unlikely that any of these lawsuits are going to prevail. i believe in dismissing the suit that was brought in michigan, the federaljudge there, he was a republican appointee, a george w bush appointees, basically described the suit is meritless if not frivolous, and may be the final thing tojust point frivolous, and may be the final thing to just point out, it's not even clear whether trump really believes he will. .. even clear whether trump really
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believes he will... inaudible... in fa ct, believes he will... inaudible... in fact, there may be another purpose that these suits serve which is merely to kinda delay the whole count and simply to further muddy the waters. stay with us on outside source — still to come... president trump may not have won — at least not yet — but vastly more voters backed him, than had been predicted. we'll look at why. borisjohnson says new lockdown restrictions in england that began today will have "a real impact" on the spread of coronavirus. here he is speaking earlier from downing street. i want to assure you, this is not a repeat of the spring. schools, universities and nurseries are all staying open and these measures, though they are tough, at a time limited. the advice i have received suggests that four weeks is enough for these measures to make a real
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impact, so these rules will expire, and on the 2nd of december, we plan to move back to a tiered approach. there is light at the end of the tunnel. we have better treatments and techniques to take care of those in hospital thanks largely to the ingenuity of british scientists. rapid testing is being rolled out massive scale, with citywide testing starting tomorrow in liverpool. this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story is? as vounting continues in key states —joe biden is forging ahead in the race for the white house — but either candidate could still win. now, while we await a winner in this election — we already have a huge amount
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of data on how and why people voted. and whether donald trump wins or loses this time — the numbers tell us many americans want him to continue. and perhaps the exit poll helps understand why. many observers felt that this election would be a referendum on his handling of the pandemic — but 35% of the voters surveyed for the exit poll said the economy was the number one issue for them. and donald trump talked about that more than joe biden. we've also learned about key elements of the electorate. this is a break down of the exit poll from edison research. joe biden's percentages are in blue, donald trump's in red. you'll see african americans heavily backed biden. and here's more — again biden in blue and trump in red. american men skewered towards trump, women towards biden. but the number of women, especially suburban women, that the biden campaign won over does not seem to be as high as some anticipated. larry rosin is the president of edison research, which conducted the exit poll we've been speaking about.
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we've talked a lot over the last few days about how the results so far are different from 2016 — but what's similar? well, yeah. i mean, when you look at these percentages, like you were just talking about, a lot of them are rather similar than they were four years ago. i think the key thing that your viewers might want to understand is, and i am sure you have touched upon this, how many more people voted. we likely will have as many as 20 to 25 million more people who voted this time as compared to 2016 and the other big shift is that that game seems to have heavily come from the non—white population of the usa, so the percentage that was white in 2016 was 71%. our estimate is only 65% this time, and so, given the fact that the total number inflated so much, that means millions upon millions of non—white americans voted who did not vote in 2016. and
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what about suburban voters? it was so much focus on them for both candidates. what have we learned about which way they went?m candidates. what have we learned about which way they went? it was interesting because, yes, that was absolutely a huge area of emphasis. the percentage that voted each way within the suburbs was really very similar. trump did one point worse
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