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effective in preventing symptoms of covid—19. as we heard earlier, there are questions about the speed at which scientists been able to produce a vaccine, and further questions about the timetable for vaccinating millions of people. here's our health correspondent, catherine burns. there's no such thing as a vaccine that is 100% effective for every single person. researchers trying to find a vaccine for coronavirus were set a target, to make it at least 50% effective. this oxford vaccine averages out at about 70%, so it has done that, and then some. so how does it stack up against other vaccines? there is a range. flu tends to be about 40—60% effective. at the other end of the scale, chickenpox is about 98% effective for children. the important thing to remember is that this vaccine has been shown to be highly effective. some people are asking, "how can scientists be so confident in a vaccine they've
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come up with in less than a year?" a lot of it comes down to cash. there's been a huge global effort with massive amounts of money — but also brain power. these vaccines that we are seeing now have been through all the usual processes, just streamlined. and remember, this isn't from a standing start. we are dealing with a coronavirus. scientists have been studying them for years and knew what the possible weak spots could be. more than 10,000 people have had this vaccine so far. none has had any serious issues. there are the kind of side effects you might expect after a vaccine. a sore arm, maybe a headache, temperature or feeling a bit fluey for a few days. the team behind this point out that normally vaccines that are regulated in europe might have safety data on 3,000 to 5,000 people, and they have thousands more than that and have been following them for months. so far we've had a few teams of scientists assessing how effective their vaccines are.
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in other words, how good are they at stopping people from getting sick with coronavirus? what we don't know yet is how long they'll offer that protection for. another unknown is how good they'll be at stopping the virus spreading. for example, if someone is infected, doesn't have any symptoms, but could still pass it onto other people. there are some early positive signs on this from the oxford trial, though. if you want to pick which vaccine you'll be given, the short answer is no. the slightly longer answer is that the uk government has ordered 100 million doses of the oxford vaccine. more than any other. so it's most likely you'd get this one. the next question is when. well, first of all it has got to be approved by the regulator. and once that happens, there are about 4 million doses ready to be shipped out, so we could see some of them before christmas. realistically, those first doses will go to the most vulnerable, probably people in care homes, over 80, and health workers. after that it will get
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rolled out across the rest of the winter and spring. 0ur health correspondent, catherine burns, answering some of your questions there. now on bbc one, time for the news where you are. have a very good night. this is bbc news, the headlines... hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the journalist and author eve pollard and the yorkshire post's westminster correspondent geri scott. let's have a look at what is already following the prime minister's downing street briefing on the post—lockdown plans, a couple of the papers
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go with the same headline, let alone story. tis the season to be jolly careful. the metro also points out that the new 0xford vaccine will cost less than a cup of coffee per dose. it says get yourself a vaxaccino. the telegraph says that england's new tier restrictions will be in place until march. a similar thought in the i, which also warns of a commons revolt from tory backbenchers over stricter measures. the new restrictions come with a warning of a tough winter ahead, according to the yorkshire post. but a brighter spring is forecast in the mirror, which says the 90% efficacy of the new vaccine, gives hope for the new year. and the guardian carries an image of sarah gilbert — the professor who led the oxford vaccine team's breakthrough research. she is also on the front of the
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times being congratulated by the duke of cambridge. a day for celebration on many fronts, but perhaps not for certain northern mps who will be pretty cross when the final tier system is announced on thursday. let's start with the metro. welcome to you, i've not spoken to you before. an interesting front page, get yourself a vaxaccino pointing out it will cost less than a cup of coffee. yes, there's only going to be one story tonight and it is this combination of vaccine breakthrough and being super cheap compared to the others, can be stored in a normalfridge which is really helpful but then combined with this message of we cannot get too excited yet because we will not get a roll—out of this until march, which is when restrictions are looking to
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end and we've got to get to the cold, dark months first, get over christmas, get through january and february which are always bleak a nyway february which are always bleak anyway and will be even more bleak this year before we can get to spring and start feeling more positive about things hopefully. staying with the metro who picked up on to species and to be jolly careful. it will be a very different christmas but there was no denying the sense of euphoria, which is a word that was used. yes, firstly we should congratulate the prime minister, an eminent headline writer at all times and here is one written for two or three of the papers. you can “— for two or three of the papers. you can —— the day we can hang up our masks as bunting after washing them, which we should do, but it is a feeling that we can see around the corner you might be coming out of it
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next spring, next april, next may and we might be for you to go about oui’ and we might be for you to go about our normal business and have a normal life. but you're quite right, northern mps are quite worried that their areas have been in very strict walk down. the companies, the pops, the restaurants are going bust and they are very worried that these areas which are very disadvantaged towns with a lot of people who have had covid will have a very different here. and apparently the dorks were thinking of tier 4, but that was regarded as too strict by the politicians, what that would have been, i don't know, probably unable to smile in case any germs get out, but it's a great day and there is a lovely line from sarah gilbert in one of the papers, i assume it will be dame sarah gilbert at one stage saying it has been an honour and a privilege to work on the vaccine
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which will be delivered notjust to us which will be delivered notjust to us but to the developing world eventually. it's interesting, a vaccine for the world is how it was described in terms of the cost of transportation and all the other issues and not for profit as well. shall we move on to the telegraph? tis the season to be jolly careful. there you go, boris writing it again for the paper used write for, so maybe they will give a column back at some stage. let's go on to the telegraph story, though, of who gets what on thursday, and this will be something that we will pick up on your paper as well. talk us through what the telegraph believes will happen. yeah, so it is going to be very interesting on thursday to see what will happen. announcement setting out who will get what and what you're expecting is huge swathes of the north and north
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yorkshire to be put into tiered two and tier 3. we've already heard the warnings today that there will be more areas in those tier 2 and tier 3 categories but this is getting really difficult for a lot of people who are already under restrictions for a long time. in my own patch, right cover, there was some of the first places to go into restrictions. businesses have really struggled as well. seeing what comes out on thursday, we already know there are these tory backbenchers who are threatening to vote against the government. today we will have to see what is they are, as nothing is going to please them and i think we will see over the next few days a lot of difficult conversations being had with people who have been in lockdown for a long time already. the view in delete a steering system
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does seem to be slightly more scientific in that it's on five criteria per each tier. what the government is removing, though, or wa nts to government is removing, though, or wants to remove as individual negotiations with individual councils, so people like andy burnham and dan jarvis. councils, so people like andy burnham and danjarvis. do you understand the logic behind that? i think it will not go down very well andi think it will not go down very well and i think they stood up for their locality, which is what you would wa nt locality, which is what you would want them to do. you also have to remain that we are in the last stages of exit door and i think the government feels we have to concentrate on that for the next five or six week until the end of the year and we cannot be negotiating with every town. that is frustrating people enormously. i think this is perhaps where certain individual companies and particularly in the hospitality industry should able to say, look, i
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need some extra bounce because christmas is where so many of these companies make all their money, they make all the profit in the last four weeks of the year and we all know, you will remember what christmas used to be like and there are certain people are going to need an extra bit of help because of where they are and what they've gone through. i remember when it was receiving presents and notjust giving them to everyone else. that isjust giving them to everyone else. that is just unfortunate but there are certain people like that guy there who say, if you don't get christmas, it is the nail on the coffin and you can quite understand that. you have the splash of new restrictions. borisjohnson was talking about the drawing hoops of the cavalry coming over the hill which he intended to be positive and you flipped it round and said he has warned the drumming hoops of the cavalry are not here yet, which is of course absolutely
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accurate but not quite how it was intended to be. you pick up on barry sherman, the huddersfield labour mp. he wants the lockdown to continue. i wonder how much support you will get for that. not sure he will get you much but he's not the only one. it's also being said by others and the theory is that the loosening of national restrictions will cause a third wave and that is what is being said. the constituency includes kirklees, which has been under lockdown for a long while, and the cases had flattened off but they had not gone down as much as maybe you would have expected but what the government will say to that is the new system is tougher, things are going to lockdown in the more extreme way and we will see these,
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and it's a lot more difficult for these people to see the light at the end of the tunnel because you're talking about us being able to see the end of this now but we thought we could see the end of it before and a lot of our areas and it did not come to that, so i don't really think the comment will go down too well. i think the other thing i would say, talking about those negotiations not happening this time round just then, there is a little bit of a problem with that because places like yorkshire are not the same as places like the south east, so to have this kind of per capita set a mark that people are going to get is really difficult because it doesn't address things like health and equality and housing, having to get tojobs you and equality and housing, having to get to jobs you cannot work from home and they are will be some problems with getting that past a lot of local leaders as well. how does this play politically for the prime minister because there is the
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majority going through the red wall seats, he needs these areas to be on site, —— on side, you have the research group, people saying they will not support these measures but what more does the prime minister need to do, do you think, to persuade people? and there is no still an argument about the north being penalised with people like andy burnham saying that when in fa ct andy burnham saying that when in fact they've been put into harsher lockdown is than the south winning numbers were higher. the more we see of this, the more we see how u nfa i rly of this, the more we see how unfairly distributed jobs and money i suppose are across the british isles, and i would think if i was borisjohnson, i isles, and i would think if i was boris johnson, i think isles, and i would think if i was borisjohnson, i think i would say when things ease off injanuary, february, you're going to have a northern meeting, we are going to put our ideas, listen suggestions of
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can we move morejobs into the put our ideas, listen suggestions of can we move more jobs into the area and can we actually move people with housing, social housing and all sorts of things into other areas so you don't have this great scourge of people who are living a disadvantaged life in some places in the north, and you give them a chance to get out, go to other places in the british isles which are not as crowded and they guess the cyberjobs, are not as crowded and they guess the cyber jobs, the are not as crowded and they guess the cyberjobs, the army, always military things he did last week could be part of that, but i think ifi could be part of that, but i think if i was them, my frustration he feeling like i was not being heard oi’ feeling like i was not being heard or listened to, and i think it should not be closed, it should be open to the public what it would be very smart of him to say, right, let us assume very smart of him to say, right, let us assume things are getting better. i'd like to know exactly where that is, but it's come down to one below one. you will have this conference
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because, by that time, we

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