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fans with digital tickets will arrive at designated times to temperature checks and hand sanitiser stations throughout. they brew their own beer here, but it's only to be served with food. and, in the 62,000—seater stadium, only 2,000 fans have golden tickets. remarkably, when fans sit here in the south stand on sunday, it will be the first time they will have seen spurs play arsenal in the new stadium. they will be wearing masks, of course, but the club has no desire to police their singing. it's the best stadium in the world, but it's just an empty shell without the supporters in it. we love people to sing and shout. we want some atmosphere back. do it behind your mask. and, for premier league players too, match day can't come soon enough. i don't think there is going to be much better moments than that, to be fair, when you are walking out, just as you come out of the tunnel and you can see all the fans. it's a moment you can't
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really put into words and, even though it's only 2,000 of them, it's still better than nothing, so i'm really looking forward to seeing them all. but only half of the 20 premier league clubs are in tier 2. it means everton and liverpool are the only northern clubs which can welcome fans back. football without fans is not the football that we want to play, that we want to watch. football is more difficult without supporters. that's how it is, and it's not even half as enjoyable. football is finally getting its soul back. natalie pirks, bbc news, tottenham. that's it. now on bbc one, time for the news where you are. have a very good night.
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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are deputy political editor at the sunday times, caroline wheeler and author and journalist rachel shabi. tomorrow's front pages, starting with. .. the i leads on the news that brexit trade talks have been paused for the weekend in effort to get all sides to hammer out a deal — the paper also points out that the pound hits its highest level against the dollar since 2018 as hopes rise for an eu trade agreement. that story also top for the ft — which notes borisjohnson‘s 11th hour visit to brussels tomorrow in an attempt to break the deadlock the telegraph claims that it's
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brussels' request for unfettered access to fishing in british waters which is the reason behind the deadlock — the paper also carries an image of the queen — carrying out her first diplomatic meeting via video link. the likes of tom kerridge and jodie kidd join the mirror's campaign to give the £2 billion supermarket covid tax break refund to struggling pubs. and the express says high street retailers are hedging their bets on a pre—christmas boom this weekend as shoppers in england emerge from a four week lockdown — the paper describes it as a £10 billion lifeline for shops. so let's begin... welcome to you both. let's start with the eye, all of the front pages hurriedly rewritten in the past couple of hours while it emerged mercy of these talks had broken off quite suddenly. the brexit talks go to the wire, rachel what do you make of this? and negotiation turned sour or is this more high street
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high—stakes brinkmanship?m or is this more high street high-stakes brinkmanship? it does sound like a bit of a order which is what you expected this stage of the negotiations. both sides basically making the most possible demands in the hope of eventually reaching a new agreement. that said it's true that both the uk chief negotiator david frost and the eu counterpart michel barnier have issued a joint statement saying there still significant emergence, quote, and there's taking a pause to collect their respective sites and partners to figure out whether there's room to figure out whether there's room to move on these red lines that seem to move on these red lines that seem to be sticking. they are both saying that they want to deal, but it is, as you say going right down to the wire. we talked about deadlines coming and going, and high—stakes
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for months if not years now. but, as we say, it really is down to the wire now with just four weeks to go until we actually have to start trading on some kind of agreement, whatever that may or may not be. what you make of the fact that after nearly a year of negotiating we are still hearing about significant divergences? do you think that these are insurmountable? that's to caroline. this deal, if it comes, has to go through both european parliament and also... apologies, having some problem with the lines. caroline there. rachel over that you then, are you surprised that there still are so many issues that they are failing to agree on this close to the wire? we look at the detail of what actually is i think carolyn
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was about to see that both of these deals had to go through a respective parliament and obviously is a lot of pushback from the uk parliament and from borisjohnson. pushback from the uk parliament and from boris johnson. he pushback from the uk parliament and from borisjohnson. he has to sell it to his own government, and similarly has to sell it to their own member states. we look with the sticking point is, anything like fishing quotas now this is exactly what this was always about for this particular brand of hard brexiteers. which is the portion of the government. the independence of britain as a coastal nation above everything else. and so it will be prepared to dig in on him with all respect to british farmers, british fisheries rather, on something that is actually not that substantial.
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something like 0.02% of british production. at the diggin on this tells us something about how it's blinded by its own ideology of independence over and above anything else. you're going to have to hold the fort for now, we are struggling to get caroline posner climbed back up. let's keep going anyway and talk about the ft front page again, talking about the talks. the headline, johnson eu called to unblock talks. how much of this do you think is about the optics, the fa ct you think is about the optics, the fact that both sides need to be fighting hard for a deal. if you go to paint this as a victory, don't they? both of them. apologies to your viewers to get stuck with me and not caroline. i think a lot of this is showmanship. as you said, they do come they all need to convince their respective sides that
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they were the ones that held firm from the did not back down. boris johnson has to do that to his party, and he's got some pretty hard line, you know the groups and his party are you know the groups and his party a re pretty ha rd you know the groups and his party are pretty hard line about this, but similarly the eu has member states that don't feel particularly like backing down to britain, and in fairness don't need to. i mean, britain was always going to be the wea ker britain was always going to be the weaker partner in this negotiation, it was always a dilution and arrogance to think that it would be anything different. they quit supporting about this is that even if there is a deal struck and again, both sides do want that to happen, it will be a really, a bare—bones deal. this is the heartbreak that we're looking at. this is britain out of the customs union, and out of single market. and that is going to meana single market. and that is going to mean a lot of disruption for
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britain. certainly initially. certainly in the first part of next year. that's on top of dealing with the pandemic. we have to get into respective what exactly is going to happen to this country even in the event of a deal. and not to talk about the fact that businesses have to prepare and they don't know what they're preparing for. and even then they're preparing for. and even then they don't know what they possibly could do. it's going to be really tough few months. across europe as well at trade with the uk. what you make of this meeting tomorrow between the european commission president and boris johnson? between the european commission president and borisjohnson? do you think it's significant that actually they are meeting and perhaps it shows that they may be closer to a deal and the break—up of the talks suggested tonight? you consider the matter of the negotiations
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generally, generally when things are close to a resolution from the big guns, big names come into the room. if it's following that same pattern presumably it's a good sign. if leaders are now coming to discuss the details between them. but when we look at the disruption that is likely to be caused, soviet disruption at the eu site as well. looking at some 10,000 lorries in the past of calais and the uk daily. there is going to be a up there inevitably when britain is out of the customs union, because there will be all sorts of checks on all kinds of things. even just looking at live goods and the kind of checks that might be imposed on farming
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products, perishables, i meat, and that's before we look at things like manufacturing for britain, so anything from cars to chemicals where british manufacturing ruling on parts from europe, and we are looking at this bare—bones deal of disruption. and i'm not sure, really, that we are prepared for that. will be delighted and relieved to know that you can stop talking for a few minutes, because we got caroline back. we would give carolyn the floor now. what is your view about how far the eu, the uk are willing to compromise to get this over the line with blue welcome it's really difficult for both sides because they both have their redlines and both have their mandates which are dictated from different quarters. in the case of the european union is those member
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states can do it in the case of the british government it's going to be those backbenchers again which clearly thwarted the deal that theresa may was trying to do. since a lifetime ago now. and we were having those very dramatic scenes in the house of commons. there are some very, very entrenched redlines there and the quote we are seeing with the focus now being moved to the european commission president is released need to see is movement here and somebody that has the authority to shift the balance of the talks both with borisjohnson directly and her leaving the commission. it's not really getting down to the nuts and bolts of it 110w. down to the nuts and bolts of it now. people within government yesterday were more downbeat than they had been in a few days, although as rachel had a before often at the stages in the negotiations we see these kind of
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people talking on the chance of a deal to put pressure on their counterparts. want to have a look at the daily telegraph front page, the demand. this talks about president macron's exerting pressure and make a demand saying they want total access, the eu wants total access to british fishing rights for ten yea rs. british fishing rights for ten years. that's what their claim is on the telegraph. look up the pressure is going to be angela merkel who exerts the pressure on the french president? welcome we can see that clearly both sides want to reach an agreement, and as rachel said there will be disruption to both sides. if i'io i’ooiti will be disruption to both sides. if no room is reached although as she quite rightly said even with such a shallow agreement that we have been
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expecting, there's gotta be some for us expecting, there's gotta be some for us disruption any event. yes, angela merkel's intervention is significant but as significant as emmanuel macron's intervention today, and both sides really are speaking to their own parliament in terms of german car manufacturing. it's incredibly important that a deal is struck. but i mean, we really need to see how those redlines are going to see how those redlines are going to shift now. we are hearing similar about this demand for a tenure transition period or fisheries. in that really has been, along with a level playing field, perpetually one of the great sticking points with the offering of 18% of access to our owi'i the offering of 18% of access to our own fishing markets. and so a tenure transition period is never going to be palatable, and certainly not be palatable to the brexiteers who held the government to ransom in the past oversimilar the government to ransom in the past
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over similar issues. let's talk about pubs, something close to our hearts and many of us have not been able to go for quite some time. many of us still can't, of course. backed with some celebrities to see the £2 billion supermarket tax rate refined go to struggling pups. do you think this is going to gain traction just as we have seen how tough it has been for pubs across the country? it's been so, so tough for pups nationwide. i think the association said something like 72% are likely to be in extreme difficulties and potential closure this year. i cannot remember the last time i was in one. it was a while ago. i think there was sunshine. 0bviously they do have a place in our hearts in
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