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up the atmosphere. back in 1990, the average per person was just under 16 tonnes. by last year, that had fallen by about half, mainly because of cleaner sources of power and more efficient household appliances. but, in the next 30 years, well, each of us is meant to get down to effectively zero, and that's going to be a lot harder. a lot will depend on building many more wind turbines out at sea. since we last filmed these giant structures, making the long climb up inside them, their costs have fallen dramatically. the government's advisers say that going zero—carbon will cost much less than expected. it's happening at pace because it's also happening at scale, so it's those scale changes, those big wind farms that we'll have in british waters in the future, that deliver those kind of cost reductions. and we all benefit from that in the future. key to all this will be a switch
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to electric cars and other zero—carbon vehicles, according to the advisers. fewer flights is another recommendation. that's a personal decision for all of us. so is eating less red meat — cutting it by a quarter over the next decade is the aim — and heating our homes not with gas boilers but cleaner alternatives, like heat pumps. but how quickly can this be done? we've got supply chains that are ready to deliver this and we've got consumers who are beginning to understand that this might be good. what we just need is that little bit of intervention from government to bring it all together, to build confidence, and for people to start really seeing what a better home looks like for them. millions more trees will also be needed. this is the quickest way to plant them. the climate plan says that carbon dioxide has to be removed from the atmosphere for us to stay safe, and trees will help to do that. and a reminder of what all this
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is about — trying to head off the most dangerous risks of a more violent climate, stronger storms and rising sea levels here and around the world. david shukman, bbc news. at the age of 90, margaret keenan became famous around the world yesterday after becoming the first person to have the pfizer vaccine as part a mass vaccination programme. this afternoon she left hospital to a warm welcome from her family. this report by our correspondent catherine burns contains some flashing images. yesterday, margaret keenan became the most talked about 90—year—old in the world. breaking news, it's the moment we've all waited for... untranslated. ..margaret keenan... she was the very first person outside of clinical trials to have the pfizer vaccine against coronavirus. applause. today, she got to leave hospital,
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after making plenty of goodbyes. bye! thank you. she's like royalty, isn't she? her daughter sue and grandson connor were waiting. come on, mum! hello, granny! she says this whole thing's been a whirlwind and she's pleased to get home to her family. there were a few tears when she saw them. are you 0k? yes, thank you. so good to see you. and, like any worldwide superstar, the inevitable fans asking for photos. margaret turns 91 next week and says this vaccine was the best early birthday present. but a bunch of flowers is always a welcome extra gift. catherine burns, bbc news. we wish her a very happy birthday when it comes. now on bbc one, time for the news where you are. have a very good night.
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this is bbc world news, the headlines. after three hours of talks between the prime minister and the european commission president ursula von der leyen, a senior downing street source has said "very large gaps remain between the two sides" but that talks will resume until the weekend. the source said a "firm decision" should be taken about the future of the discussions by sunday. we know that ursula von der leyen says we will come to a decision by the weekend so hoping to get something a little bit more concrete by sunday. spite lots of different sticking points, and there's
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arguments about a potential future trade tariff. 0ne arguments about a potential future trade tariff. one thing to bear in mind is if there's no agreement then potentially with no trade agreement there will be tariffs on everything. soa there will be tariffs on everything. so a lot of things to still discuss, but we know the discussions, no formal statement as such, just lines coming from brussels. jessica 0ur political correspondentjess parker is in westminster. went in the mill has ended, not great mood music ultimately, but in theory the talks have not stopped because there was a speculation that there may just end because there was a speculation that there mayjust end up being no deal. but that's not the case at the moment. in my understanding talking to sources of the talks will resume tomorrow. i don't have details yet in terms of where that will happen,
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but had been happening in brussels but had been happening in brussels but of course over the course of recent months they've been switching between london and brussels, but that's logistics. the important thing to say is that the talks are set to resume, but what's not particularly clear from the suggestions we are getting tonight from a number ten source is whether this dinner which has gone for over three hours has actually led to any breakthroughs in terms of the leaders of sitting down and may be saying it will give a bit here if you give a bit there, and i will send you my negotiator tomorrow with us send you my negotiator tomorrow with us that the more flexible mandate. what we're hearing is that significant differences remain. a senior source it tonight saying it's still unclear whether these differences can be bridged. and importantly we have another deadline that people might be used to exit deadlines length about his point but we are hearing tonight is that the prime minister and ursula von der leyen have agreed that by sunday a firm decision should be taken about the future of the talks. sunday, 0k, right. sunday it is
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then. thanks for bringing us up today at what we do know so far. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the chief leader writer at the observer, sonia sodha and the chief political commentator at times radio, tom newton dunn.. tomorrow's front pages starting with. .. good to see you both. let's start with the guardian — the papers came rather late so we have been flicking through them. it leads with those crunch brexit talks in brussels, as borisjohnson and eu chief ursula von der leyen sought to break the deadlock. the metro reports that fish was on the menu, as the prime minister and ursula von
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der leyen sat down for dinner in the belgian capital. according to the times, borisjohnson was refusing to back down, before those crucial talks got under way. the mirror leads with the news that tesco has been stockpiling some food, as it prepares for potential shortages in the event of a no—deal brexit. and, the sun carries a plea for help from pub landlords to the prime minister, as many face tough covid restrictions in the run—up to christmas. like i say, really good to have you both here. we've onlyjust literally received the papers so i know you have not had much time to digest them but we all know what the main story is. we're going to start with the metro, and while we are talking about the metro can you just weave in what we do know thus far, because these lines coming through as our political correspondent was saying a little bit earlier, we've got
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another potential deadline that by sunday we should notice of the give it more clear, but basically what ever was on the literal menu, it's not been graded the sense that there was not too much agreement tonight. the smoke signals coming out have not been great, although i think it's important to be clear no one was really expecting a deal out of this. it would've been very unusual. it always felt like the two leaders we re it always felt like the two leaders were going to meet, see whether they could sort of get some grounds for compromise, and then the hammering out of the details was going to be done by negotiators following on from the dinner. i don't think we we re ever from the dinner. i don't think we were ever going to get news of the deal tonight. i think what will be interesting to see will be how warm the noises are coming out of there. but to tell you the truth and doesn't really feel like we know very much more and we did a day or two ago. the redlines that the eu
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and uk are arguing about which are exactly the same redlines we have been arguing about for about three yea rs. been arguing about for about three years. nothing much has changed in terms of the substantive areas where the uk and eu need to find a provides. uk says is not budging, the eu says its priority is to keep the eu says its priority is to keep the sanctity of the single market and protect the single market. so it really will just depend and protect the single market. so it really willjust depend on whether one side is going to budge. and it feels like we probably won't know that for a couple of days yet. in you agree or should know more about the menu than necessarily the outcome looks good to come out of these talks. the papers having fun with the headline, giving us a meal deal. the guardian still possible,. fish was on the menu literally and
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figuratively, but ursula von der leyen has been treating and describes a lovely, lively, sorry lively and interesting discussion. talk us through the guardian also what she's been saying stop the living give you her tweet in full, because she has just released that, it's worth quickly reading out, a lively and interesting discussion on the state of play across the list of outstanding issues. gain a clear understanding of our positions, they remainfarapart. we understanding of our positions, they remain far apart. we agreed the team should immediately try to resolve this issue and we came to the decision by the end of the weekend. we briefly break those down. a lively and interesting discussion, that means an almighty row in the prophetic language. we all know what that means. both sides very, very clear now. that there was no deal donein clear now. that there was no deal done in the room from both sides are still quite far apart. might‘ve gotten slightly heated in there as
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well. but here's the crucial part, which is where i'm may slightly differfrom sonya. we know they which is where i'm may slightly differ from sonya. we know they have huge differences, to vogels already and failed to resolve them. they been talking for a yearjust on the trade deal and failed to resolve that. they've been talking for five yea rs that. they've been talking for five years on what britain could achieve for brexit and have failed to resolve that. here's the crucial thing. they've agreed to talk for four more days until sunday before they finally draw stubs or maybe they finally draw stubs or maybe they won't. my question will then be why have they decided for talking forfour more days why have they decided for talking for four more days on issues they already know they are far apart on and disagree on if there is zero point in that? so i would just suggest that whatever happened in those three hours, whatever is going to happen in those discussions, something happened to make them think it was worth going back into the room. was some ground given by one side or the other, but both to allow a potential opening? to me, it
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suggests just it just might. allow a potential opening? to me, it suggests just itjust might. would you reckon the ground was? fisheries and level playing field. a much access to waters. as a deal to be done there, it's a case of green numbers, a certain percentage of quota in the various fishing stocks. that's not a hard one to do. michael gove this morning said you might have to compromise. level playing field is the killer one. that's the real divide. what price should britain pay to access the eu trade tariff? should have to follow eu rules now or in the future? that feels like it's been movement and talk about non—russian deals. having to follow rules in the future, it seems that if there's going to be any movement at this at all is going to be trying to design some kind of formula, horrendously complicated
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perhaps, but it polices both sides. —— pleases. perhaps, but it polices both sides. -- pleases. what do you reckon, then come ultimately we've had this clash of ideologies for years now. they have not moved, but the big guns came in and negotiators will continue to negotiate. what's your assessment of this? i think it's an interesting point that tom makes about why would they agree to another four days of talk of there's literally no giving room? and hopefully there's something to that, because i'm sober that very much thinks that a deal would be at their outcome, still not a great outcome in terms of the economic damage it does the economy, but still better than a no deal. but the thing that i also think we have to take into account is that neither side wants to be seen to be the first side to walk away from the talks. neither side wants to get the blame. neither side wants to get the blame. neither side wants to get the blame. neither side wants really to do this. i
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still think it's quite hard to read, because if you, it's a bit suggest is very difficult for the other side did not agree to it i suppose. i hope that we will get a deal and there will be some movement, i think that another sort of argument in favour of that is that with these massively high—powered and high—stakes massively high—powered and high—sta kes negotiations sometimes you don't get one side giving way until the very, very end. i know it feels like we are at the wire, but isa feels like we are at the wire, but is a few more days to go. you would not necessarily have had the big move today, it always comes literally when the time is running out and the deadline is ticking. so i agree with tom. he may still see something and i also think that i have become more pessimistic in the last few weeks about the chances of ano last few weeks about the chances of a no deal scenario. 0k. last few weeks about the chances of a no deal scenario. ok. so when it comes to this, i don't want to see
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optimism, but this idea

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