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british prime minister borisjohnson and european commission president ursula von der leyen have agreed the uk and eu will continue talks on a post—brexit trade deal after meeting in brussels, but that a "firm decision" should be taken about the future of the discussions by sunday. germany's chancellor angela merkel says a deal is still possible. but she stressed the importance of a "level playing field" to protect the eu's single market. canada has approved the pfizer/biontech vaccine — paving the way for distribution across the country. meanwhile people in britain with a history of significant allergic reactions are being advised not to have the new pfizer biontech coronavirus vaccine. and the us federal trade commission — and 48 states — have sued facebook — saying that it broke antitrust laws. regulators are accusing the company of buying up rivals to become a social media monopoly. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be
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bringing us tomorrow. with me are the chief leader writer at the observer, sonia sodha and the chief political commentator at times radio, tom newton dunn. tomorrow's front pages starting with. .. let's start with the telegraph — it says sunday has been set as a new deadline, after borisjohnson‘s trip to brussels did not result in a brexit breakthrough. "deadlock at dinner", is the front page of the daily mail — as it reports that large gaps remain, following those crunch brexit talks. the metro reports that fish was on the menu, as the prime minister and the eu chief, ursula von der leyen, sat down for dinner in the belgian capital. according to the times, borisjohnson was refusing to back down, before those crucial talks got under way. "take it or leave it!"
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— so says the express, which reports that the prime minister was pushing back against the eu's demands. the guardian says borisjohnson set out his red lines before the dinner in brussels — but it adds, he was insisting a deal was still possible. the mirror leads with the news that tesco has been stockpiling some food, as it prepares for potential shortages in the event of a no—deal brexit. and, the sun carries a plea for help from pub landlords to the prime minister, as many face tough covid restrictions in the run—up to christmas. those are some of the papers that we have. a lot of courts responding to the news we had earlier. let's start with tom, that various different plays on words, meal deals etc, all though focusing on the three hour long dinner between borisjohnson
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and ursula von der leyen which did not bring out an agreement. but also know no deal as well. the talks continue. talk us through what you reckon and where the sticking points you think are. i suppose you could look at this and say, well, what on earth has changed since yesterday, la st earth has changed since yesterday, last week, last month? supposedly nothing. 0r last week, last month? supposedly nothing. or you could look at this and say, well actually there's been some interesting moments or look like there has been. we just may not know the detail for a while yet. the its glass half empty or half to bring your outlooks on life. what do we know? going into this were no talks at all. tomorrow there will be talks, in fact they're going to talk for four more days. we also know that both leaders put out statements, basically saying a frosty conversation, a lively interesting conversation said ursula vofi interesting conversation said ursula von der leyen and a frank
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conversation said borisjohnson. a fairly decent bus stop, and just did not see eye to eye at all. both saying significant gaps still remain. numberten tonight saying significant gaps still remain. number ten tonight saying going further and saying telling me that nothing was achieved at all. there was zero progress. the big question i think still remains though, if that is really the case and if they are still at other loggerheads over these crucial things. were they doing talking for four more days? there is zero point and sitting in a room and staring at each other for four more days if they are just at logjams, if there's nothing new to put into that conversation. unless they're just trying to not be the first want to get up and walk away from the table or look like they caused no deal. it just feels to me, four days as long time. those two, david frost and
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michelle barnier, they stopped because they ran out of things to talk about. it feels to me that they going to give this one last shot now and trying something. trying to bridge that gap. i think it's the level playing field non—regression clause which is basically agreeing to not worse of the current status of the labour market place in environmental protections and state aid, and the e position which is penalty clauses if britain diverges away from the future eu positions. so it feels like is a chance of achieving something, it may come to nothing and may just achieving something, it may come to nothing and mayjust be another charade, but i personally can't see them continuing this four days longer unless at least they thought there was something there. 20 reckon, it was of the idea but the level playing field? because with fish you could potentially, there is the stats you could come to some
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sort of agreement. is the level playing field, the future positions, if they can come to a deal without that, there will be no future ta riffs that, there will be no future tariffs to discuss anyway. what you reckon, what you're thinking?|j think reckon, what you're thinking?” think it's a level playing field. this is the issue that's been at the heart of the divisions between paris and the wide gap between the eu and the uk on brexit. it's a very very beginning of the process. there's this thing which, you know, the people in the conservative party who are very hard line about a committee brexiteers, the erg, they really wa nted brexiteers, the erg, they really wanted us to leave the eu and have a so—called clean break. so we don't have to abide by any sort of the regulations and have complete sovereignty over our regulations and have complete sovereignty over our own regulations and have complete sovereignty over our own laws. problem is that it is not realistic proposition in a tree for sentry world where a country of our size strikes trade deals with countries
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around the world. trade deals are a lwa ys around the world. trade deals are always based particularly when their own countries and ones close to you. this is really were the whole process has come unstuck. the eu says we've got our standards, if you wa nt to says we've got our standards, if you want to diverge from them you are free to do that once you've left the eu. but it means that we will need to introduce trade barriers and tariffs. if you don't want those to be in place then you have to align your standards with our standards. and that's where the issue has a lwa ys and that's where the issue has always been. it feels like there's still a very big gap between the eu and the uk, i can't see the eu budging because the eu has to protect the integrity of the single market. and so i really think the question here is that last time borisjohnson said he would never, ever ci’oss any of borisjohnson said he would never, ever cross any of his redlines was
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ata time ever cross any of his redlines was at a time when he was negotiating a withdrawal agreement with the eu, and actually he saw his redline in order to get that agreement he stepped right across it. he said he would not have northern ireland, there would be no border. her text on the irish sea. in the end, boris johnson conceded that to the eu so ina johnson conceded that to the eu so in a withdrawal agreement. i think the question really this time is, is borisjohnson when he saying he's got his redlines, are the absolutely oi’ got his redlines, are the absolutely or is he willing to give somewhat and to come to an agreement about some kind of mechanism so if the uk and the eu diverge in labour and environmental standards in the future, what that means in terms of trade barriers. i think that's the really, really massive question. to be honest although we are seeing all of these theatrics and dinners, etc, and these conversations i imagine
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the prime minister does have, and david frost has an idea in their heads about whether they are going to compromise with the eu at the last minute or not. she is very hard for us to see as observers from the outside but whether they're going to do that. in the daily telegraph also of course focusing on this. looking at these and highlighting particularly at the four days that we we re particularly at the four days that we were talking about. what are they going to be talking about over these four days? the dentistry official state m e nts four days? the dentistry official statements is the premise are determined not to leave any routes toafairdeal determined not to leave any routes to a fair deal untested but him agreement must respect the independence and sovereignty of the uk. what you are reading? can you have a deal and still respect that? ultimately we be talking about this particular thing four years. we have been and that's what's so interesting about the current dynamic. the thing that they are really stuck on, delegates fishing.
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there seems to be way through. michael gove was talking about how the uk is prepared to compromise on that. it's reallyjust agreeing set of numbers and how many fish can be fished, how many both etc. the you can do that. if a basic haggle. level playing field is a far bigger ideological divide between the two sides. it's all about, ideological divide between the two sides. it's allabout, as ideological divide between the two sides. it's all about, as boris johnson might say, having your cake and eating it. continuing trade with the e without tariffs or quotas but at the same time doing what it once and having total sovereignty to decide pretty much everything it wants to in terms of its own market regulations. 0r wants to in terms of its own market regulations. or should it have to agree some level playing field standards so it can trade fairly with the eu? that's the viewpoint. and that's the huge ideological divide between brexit, brexiteers and remainers, the eu and boris johnson. since this debate began five years ago. it's still not resolved. the question is over the
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next four days was there something that happened that made them think it's worth giving it another shot, why else would you set a four day time limit? why notjust given 24 hours or one hour that matter. 0r are they going to be unable to resolve that gap between the nonaggression pact which is what borisjohnson wants nonaggression pact which is what boris johnson wants answer penalty clauses that the eu wants to put into the uk if it diverges too much in their point of view. it does not feel like, i think you put this to the man on the street, and said we could only get in nonaggression pact and it would not give us, we could not get one that insisted on dynamic alignment. that's an argument very ha rd alignment. that's an argument very hard to sell to the men on the street, and for there to be no deal at the end of the day need to turn around and inform the citizen saying i'm sorry, but it's wild on this. a difficult thing to sell to 500
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million people. it seems to be there will attempt to breach this. —— bridge this. that's all deals end not being done. of only got four more days to find out, we think. list the push that deadline further down the line again as well. sunday will be a firm and points to decide, so will be a firm and points to decide, so in theory that's a real deadline but in practice the ft is talking about a story that focuses on the real deadline which is of course the sist real deadline which is of course the 31st of december. when without a deal things will change hugely. and according to the ft and got a european commission source telling them that britain's could be barred from entering the eu. if we leave with no deal that will be huge disruption in some areas. this story is focusing on one of them in particular. so at the moment the eu has a list of approved countries
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from which people can come into the ee during a global pandemic. and it's quite a discrete list of countries, and all of those countries, and all of those countries have very, very low rates of infections. talking about like singapore and new zealand. not every eu country allows residents from all of those countries on this safe list. if you are part of the eu obviously you are excluded from those provisions. and because the uk has been part of the transition period it sort of carried on in a steady state. they don't apply to us, and to date we've got the eu commission source saying that actually if there's no deal and there's no agreement the uk will be subject exactly the same limitations on our citizens and residents going into the eu that they would be for any other third country. and there we re any other third country. and there were a number of quite stringent tests you have to meet to get onto
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that list. i think this will be worrying to anybody who was planning on holiday to my baby in the first half of next year. so much in anyway with the pandemic. a lot of uncertainty and hopefully that situation would not come to pass and if there was a no deal perhaps it would be say a month or two in any sort of reciprocal arrangement reached. but it just sort of reciprocal arrangement reached. but itjust goes to show how much uncertainty there is, like how much uncertainty there is, like how uncertain the road would look in terms of their relationships with the eu and uk if you leave the transition period without deal on the ist of january. went back and you think people looking at vaccines and other things then you have something like this. let's revert to the guardian now and tom and tom it's got what happens during the last election, the red wall. labour
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red wall they got crushed by the conservatives. there was one of the constituencies that went to the conservatives. what is the study, and what is it warning about what could potentially happen in terms of these former liberal heart lands? assay drawn out prism labour mps come reinforcing what a lot of current labour mps and former labour mps were saying. that labour is effectively seeing 50 or so went from the general election. the receipt of out of touch by those vote rs receipt of out of touch by those voters and don't share their values anymore and ineffective, and labour just simply does not represent them. and clearly in those seats that's what happened. and certainly brexit was one issue, borisjohnson canet
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getting brexit that was his slogan. a little bit more culture war and identity were going on as well. more traditional working class formally labour voters certainly not thinking that what was very much acentric liberal party a time and was it was labour mps give liberal party a time and was it was labourmps give ajeremy liberal party a time and was it was labour mps give a jeremy corbyn keir starmer, north london not even all over london, just part of london. and this report says unless they really start appealing to red wall vote rs really start appealing to red wall voters or blue barricade voters now as to result to call them, they will be lost forever. without them there's no chance really getting a majority with certain parties like the labour party is dire in scotland as it is. keir starmer going big on defence and extra £60 billion of spending on defence as was on the
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spitting review a couple of weeks ago. wholeheartedly issues like the patriotism and stuff that really matters and has huge residents. we will see liebert talking a huge amount about that now coming up about how believable they come across as a different matter, but huge amounts of this. they know those the cultural issues really measuring back in 2024. get your perspective, can they redo it, and every gain these seats?” perspective, can they redo it, and every gain these seats? i think a lot of it depends on which territory between 24 general election is for. so much uncertainty about what's going to happen in the next three yea rs, particularly to going to happen in the next three years, particularly to the economy. with the interesting things about labour voters in these areas is when you look at the polling it tends to be closer to conservatives on social issues, some of them, not all of them. that's a good massive generalisation. but the tenancy. and
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they tend to be much closer to liberal party on economic issues. and that's what i think, keir starmer is going to want to fight it on the economy and how the economy is doing. and it feels like we've had the impact of the global pandemic, we've had bricks that to the track, even a brexit with a free—trade deal is going to have a bigger impact on economist think on the economy than anything. which is a bsently the economy than anything. which is absently huge. it's a good chance the next three years ago to feel really economically you're going to see him employment go up, please withjobs, see him employment go up, please with jobs, not see him employment go up, please withjobs, not going see him employment go up, please with jobs, not going to feel great forfamilies. and with jobs, not going to feel great for families. and so with jobs, not going to feel great forfamilies. and so if that with jobs, not going to feel great for families. and so if that happens i think labour will be looking to fight the general election on a state of the economy and conservatives letting people down. whereas i think borisjohnson is going to want to keep the election focused on the culture wars issues, and we have seen that very much and some of the fight that he has picked
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over the last few months. in terms of kind of asylum—seekers coming to the uk. sort of picking fights with antiracism protesters for example. so he wants to foment division and pick a fight and fight the election on social and cultural issues. i think that's coming you know, i think that's coming you know, i think a lot is up for grabs in 2024, but so much is going to depend on the state of the economy, and a lot is going to depend on whether those voters who voted labour in 2015, and conservatives in 2019, went decide to do? i think a big chunk of that is what habits the economy. you touched upon culture in a few sentences. on the times what has cambridge university voted to do in particular in regarding to know platforming? a big vote by the academics overturning a bid for the university effectively banning know
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platforming. so no pipe for allowed. the idea that university students shutting down people with views they no longer agree with. be able to stop them from talking. that they can no longer do. it's called the respectable but if you can't shut people down who is want to find offensive or may not be woke or politically correct or where the terminology is, that means free speech wins. even though you don't like what speech is their being free to express. a victory against potential he was somewhat described as woke. i'm not in any way shut her from shutting under view down, but i am being told we are running out of time, so as always thank you so much for talking is through today pacific events, or rather no news, but well we will find it on sunday what happens next. sonya and tom think much have a good rest of your
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evening, and always they get all of viewers on the papers and we will see you tomorrow. thanks for watching. hello there, i'm tolson and this is related sports news. manchester city have wrapped up their champions league group campaign with a comfortable 3—nil win over marseille. ferran torres fourth goal in five group stage outings put pep guardiola's side in front against the french side after the break at the etihad. sergio aguero then scored 10 minutes into his return from injury after coming off the bench — thatjust his fourth appearance in almost six months. raheem sterling completed the scoring in the final minute to ensure city finished unbeaten in group c and top the standings. mo salah has become liverpool's leading scorer in europe with their goal in the 1—1 draw with danish side fc midtjylland.
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salah scored inside a minute in what was liverpool's quickest goal in the competition and his 22nd in europe for the club. but the home side claimed a deserved point through alexander scholz‘s confident penalty. jurgen klopp's side though still go through to the last 16 as group winners. elsewhere 13—time european champions real madrid avoided heading out as they won 2—0 in germany against borussia moenchengladbach — karim benzema scoring both. also in group b inter milan missed out after failing to win against shakhtar donetsk, while in group a atletico madrid won in salzburg to secure their place in the last 16. the fourth official accused of using a racist term towards istanbul basa ksehir assistant coach pierre webo, could receive a 10—match european ban. yesterday's match with paris st germain was abandoned at 0—0 after both sets of players walked off the pitch following the incident. all the players took a knee ahead of the restart of the match in the french capital this evening. the game began in the 14th minute
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and it didn't take long for last season's finalists to exert their authority. neymar scored a hat—trick as psg won the game 5—1 to top their group. in the women's champions league chelsea have made a winning start to their campaign this season. a 5 nil win at benfica in the first leg of their last 32 tie. it didn't take them long to take the lead — fran kirby scoring in the second minute to become the club's all time record scorer — they were 4 nil up by the break and in control. bethany england put emma hayes‘s side 5 nil up in the second half, benfica also had a player sent off. the two time semi—finalists as good as through to the round of 16. elsewhere — a lot closer for manchester city — they came from behind to beat gothenburg in sweden. a headerfrom american sam mewis securing the win with 14 minutes to go. while there was a narrow loss for qualifiers glasgow city — beaten 2 —1 at sparta prague. there are calls from former rugby players for contact in training to be limited
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while research into a possible link between rugby and brain injuries continues. it was revealed yesterday that a group of former players has started legal acton against rugby's authorities for negligence. ben cohen, who was part of englands world cup winning side in 2003 says more needs to be done. it's like 20 controlled car crash a week. some of these hits are just a bone rattling. they really are. and... it's not just about knocks on the head. yes, that's a massive part. it's about holding your breath going into contact and seen the stars and things like that. it's been confirmed england's cricketers will play sri lanka in two test matches behind closed doors in galle next month. the first test will start on the 14th of january with the second match beginning on the 26th. the touring party are due to fly out on the 2nd with england originally meant to tour last march but the trip was postponed due to the covid—19 pandemic. and south africa have confirmed they'll tour pakistan for the first
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time in 14 years after agreeing to play two tests and three t 20 internationals in january and february. golf's european tour season ending event gets underway in dubai tomorrow. one and two in the race to dubai title, patrick reed and tommy fleetwood, tee off in the final pairing of the opening round. fleetwood by his own admission has had a disappointing season with no wins at all during the year for the first time since 2016. he hopes to end on a high though over the next few days at the earth course. tomorrow in the final group out in the top two of the race to dubai for the fourth in a row is fantastic. last couple of years of knowing what it means and understand what a great position you are in. and it's enjoyable for those reasons, really. you come in and have not got anything to lose. just a chance to put your name on that trophy again and i think it's very special. hollie doyle has continued
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her incredible year by making history and becoming the first female jockey to ride a winner at the international jockeys' championship in hong kong. doyle took the win in the fourth and final leg of the competition aboard race favourite harmony n blessed. the 24—year old finished joint third overall in the event, which includes 12 of the world's bestjockeys. earlier this year doyle became the first woman to have five winners at one meeting. and that's all the sport for now. hello. in comparison to recent mornings, thursday gets off to a relatively mild to start but not very inspiring skies for the majority first thing. a lot of cloud around, gloomy, and we will be stuck with that cloud in many areas throughout the course of the day. it's courtesy of an area of low pressure, a big area of low pressure which actually is a combination of smaller low—pressure centres — one to the south west of the uk this
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morning could bring some showery rain in here. the tail end of another one to the north—west will, i think, bring some more persistent rain through the course of the day into western scotland, gradually tracking it a little further eastwards. some showers will push across wales into the north west of england as the day pans out as well. the best chance of any brightness probably in a few sheltered eastern spots across east anglia stretching up into lincolnshire. temperatures around average at best, typically 8—9, perhaps 11 for plymouth. but look towards the west and you'll see another band of rain approaching. now, this one tends to mean business. it will produce some heavier rain for all areas as it tracks way eastwards. it's tied in with another one of those smaller low—pressure centres we saw as part of that big one at the start. but clear skies look like they could just hang on overnight to give us a patchy frost from the north east of england and eastern scotland initially on friday. but the day overall is dominated by increasing winds and some rain pushing its way eastwards, but this area of low pressure will also manage to pull in some
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comparatively mild air to the south of the uk. you can see the amber colour here on the air mass picture behind me. so, actually, if we do see the sun coming out on friday, it could well turn out to be one of our warmest afternoons across the uk if we compare the whole of the weekjust gone. and the best place to see the sun at the moment, it looks like probably southern counties of england. we could widely see double figures here where the cloud lingers. further north, though, and some rather persistent rain, probably 7—9 just about covers it. now, for the weekend — blink and you'll miss it but there's a little ridge of high pressure in there. yes, that low still whirling away towards the west but saturday looks like a quieter, clearer, drier day. but as you can see, that low isn't giving up the ghost anytime soon. for saturday, a little bit cooler, quite cloudy, but not a bad day. sunday, milder but we're back with the wet and windy conditions.
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