tv The Papers BBC News December 13, 2020 10:30pm-11:01pm GMT
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hello there. well, today was certainly a day to forget. lots of cloud around, lots of rain, too. an inch of rain or more in some parts of the country, leaving us with some very soggy scenes today. the weather did change later on across the far west of england and wales, and here in northern ireland, the cloud break, and this
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is the sort of air that we're moving into tonight and tomorrow. it's a much more showery airstream coming in the base of that area of low pressure that's chasing in behind those weather fronts that have been bringing the more persistent rain. through tonight, that more persistent rain will move its way out into the north sea, but you can see a whole rash of showers packing in behind that. some of those could be quite heavy, potentially with some thunder in there as well, and we've still got some rather strong and blustery winds overnight, so it's going to be very mild. in actual fact, in scotland and the northeast of england, temperatures will rise as the night goes on to eight or nine degrees by the morning. could be quite a wet start, though, for much of scotland and northern england, showers continuing to run into western areas through the day. some of those showers pushing their way eastwards, but perhaps not many showers for northern ireland and the showers becoming fewer in the afternoon in scotland. those winds still quite strong and blustery near those showers, and the winds are still coming in from the south or southwest so it's still mild air that's heading our way. temperatures could reach
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13 degrees this time in the southeast of england, and it's going to be a milder day for scotland and the northeast of england, nine or ten degrees here. those showers continue into the evening, and again, some of them could be heavy, but as we head further into the evening and overnight, the winds do start to ease down a bit. we've still got the main driver of the weather, that area of low pressure sitting to the northwest, but it's beginning to weaken. we've got the threat of this weather frontjust brushing in to the far south east of england, could potentially bring more cloud and a bit of rain, but it looks like mostly showers will be running into the south coast through the irish sea into some of the western parts of the uk. but in general, fewer showers, i think, on tuesday, more places will be dry with some sunshine and the winds won't be quite as strong either, but temperatures may not be quite as high. 9—11 degrees is still above normal for this time of the year. really, through the rest of the week, it stays mild. we're not looking at any frost overnight, but it stays very unsettled. some windy weather for western areas on wednesday, rain for all parts for a while, and then it goes more showery,
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hello. this is bbc news. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment with anne and james — first the headlines. another deadline extended, brexit talks will now continue. both sides agreed to carry on talking because they've been unable to come to an agreement. i am afraid we are still very far apart on some key things but where there is life, there is hope. we will keep talking in the uk certainly won't be walking away from the talks. i think people expect us to go the extra mile.
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we have accordingly mandated our negotiators to continue the talks and see whether an agreement can be reached, even at this late stage. a warning to borisjohnson — relaxing coronavirus restrictions this christmas will lead to a third wave of infections all schools in greenwich have been told to close from tomorrow as coronavirus rates in the south east london borough reach the highest level since march. police in lincolnshire have arrested two teenagers on suspicion of murder after the discovery a school boy's body. the cold war novelistjohn le carre, who wrote tinker tailor soldier spy, has died at the age of 89 following a short illness.
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hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the chief business commentator at the independent, james moore, and the property and personal finance commentator, anne ashworth. first let's take a look at, tomorrow's front pages they are from the comfort of their own homes, why not, who could blame them. they are not allowed into the building, nothing personal, just this wretched pandemic. first let's take a look at, tomorrow's front pages and many of them lead on the state of the uk—eu talks. the guardian. the pm and von der leyen vow to go "extra mile" writes the paper, saying there is renewed hope of a deal being struck within days. "we're into extra time" reports the metro — after the phone call between the two leaders today. the financial times claims hopes have been rising in london and brussels that a post—brexit trade deal can be rescued — but that the two sides still remain "far apart" on key issues.
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the i also leads on brexit talks and says talks could continue to christmas. meanwhile, the daily telegraph says the talks could go on until new years eve. the paper also claims that london mayor sadiq khan is calling for all schools in the capital to shut from tomorrow as covid infection rates are rising rapidly. the southeast london borough of greenwich. it says it is now "inevitable" that london will go into tier 3 next week. the mirror's headline is "final push" and includes a warning that the uk is drinking in the "last chance saloon". where have we heard that before, i wonder. and, james, thanks for being with us, staying up to be with us and staying in to welcome the first of the papers. —— anne. the first additions of monday's morning paper. james committee want to start with
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us james committee want to start with us at the independent, extra, extra time to find a deal with the eu. it's not presumably unlike the world war i predictions, almost nobody is predicting this one will be over by christmas. nobody is predicting this one will be over by christmaslj nobody is predicting this one will be over by christmas. i don't think it will. i heard before we started using the word groundhog day, i think that's an apt metaphor for this. it's just been going think that's an apt metaphor for this. it'sjust been going on and on and on. but, i mean, the thing is, you would rather they were talking than not talking. another deadline, another pass, but they are still talking and, you know, as the prime ministers that where there is life there is hope, the one thing that i find interesting about this is i really think that boris johnson would like to put brexit in the rear—view mirror. re—she soon acted and even mention it at all in his budget —— richey soon asked. and
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then at the last new year injanuary and february, they asked the withdrawal bill. the governmentjust didn't say the word brexit at all for a while, and didn't say the word brexit at all fora while, and i didn't say the word brexit at all for a while, and i think they'd like to get this behind them, and i can almost be certain that this will not happen if there is a no—deal outcome. there is no chance we are going to be talking about this, writing about this, and writing papers on it for weeks and months ahead if there is no—deal, i think there is a chance of putting in the rear—view mirror, and i think they'd rather like that, so i think that's just the one thing that makes me think that maybe there is a chance that we will get something done.- the paper has illustrated this with a lovely image of the white cliffs of dover, and below bit, not so lovely image of a long line of lorries. as a experts, you can probably tell us what this would do to prophecy prices in the cans coastal district around the ports,
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but leaving that flippant remark aside, what do you make of what the eye is saying, and indeed what some of the other papers are saying. i mean, the metro, for example has, we are into mean, the metro, for example has, we a re into extra mean, the metro, for example has, we are into extra time. well, i feel great relief, as does anybody else in britain, because the political fallout from a no—deal would be huge and the economic consequences would be so catastrophic and notjust temporary. i mean, it's very easy to say, oh, we are going to wto deal with the eu, that's a very... remark. the consequences would be dire, notjust for how remark. the consequences would be dire, not just for how we survived temporarily or for fresh food, but for many industries, notably the car industry. so it's good they are going back and talking because i think borisjohnson must be very, very afraid of the permanent stain on his political career if he
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doesn't get this one through. let's remember, for both sides, it's a hugely important deal. we have about £300 billion of experts for the eu. we are a crucial trading partner for europe. let's try and, you know, find some common ground and you know, forget there's differences. there's a whole misunderstanding of what trade talks about. it's a very interesting moment this morning when the spanish foreign was talking about we think that trade talks are about we think that trade talks are about independence, they are not, they are about interdependence, and if the people at this summit just for that in if the people at this summit just forthat in mind, i if the people at this summit just for that in mind, i think we would see some progress. it's a really good point, that's, that she was making, wasn't she, when she was speaking, i think, making, wasn't she, when she was speaking, ithink, to making, wasn't she, when she was speaking, i think, to sky this monday. james, just looking at that metro picture, actually, i'm rather struck by the fact that we seem to have missed a bit of a trade given that we are arguing about
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sovereignty, there is that you commissioner president wearing her blue flag with yellow stars facemask, and i noticed that when borisjohnson was in brussels he wasn't wearing his union flag facemask, so that made be something from the pr point of view he could've done something about. that's him on the phone, i can't remember if that is a picture from speaking with ursula von der leyen oi’ speaking with ursula von der leyen or briefing the cabinet. at the tone, the mood music from the british side still seems to be talking of the chances of, you know, the most likely outcome being no—deal and trading under wto rules, what do you think that would mean? well, in terms of the mood music or in terms of the wto deal? in terms ofa in terms of the wto deal? in terms of a wto requirement to trade. wto requirement means tariffs, for a start. if you have a free trade deal, then zero tariffs. you have goods going back and forwards, and while you have custom checks which we don't have at the moment, they
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will be able to go back and put them in. but all of our exports will face attacks to get into the eu, and all their trade coming this way will also be taxed, which is why people likejohn allen also be taxed, which is why people like john allen from tesco also be taxed, which is why people likejohn allen from tesco have been talking about food prices. and in my column for independent voices on saturday, i did a little bit of analysis on what that would do. the average grocery bill according to can tarfor the average grocery bill according to can tar for the year is so average grocery bill according to can tarfor the year is so far average grocery bill according to can tar for the year is so far today is 4200, can tar for the year is so far today is a200, probably a bit more than that, because people spend more at christmas. you add 5% of that and it's quite a lot of money. you add 596 it's quite a lot of money. you add 5% to that for people who don't have a lot of money, people on low incomes, and it really is a gut punch. so that is the difference. the other problem combining from the worry is getting goods through, and i have here a vial of insulin, and
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we shouldn't forget that this keeps me alive, and it's really quite scary if you are in a position of someone scary if you are in a position of someone like me who relies on this medication which is important. —— imported to talk about no—deal, tier talk about massive queues of lorries and stuff getting through, because without this, i would be in quite a bit of trouble. you raise a very good point there. i don't know if you want to develop that, the kind of comfortable assumption that perhaps we've all had in this country because in a sense, the single market is something that has come into existence in the time we've been in europe, so therefore, we've been in europe, so therefore, we knew a time before it, but it wasn't a relevant comparison. we have only known living in it and through its, we will now be outside of it. things like tariffs could change the dynamic for businesses in this country in a really dramatic and in some cases a kind of destructive way. instruction that could be brought by tariffs is considerable. 0ne
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instruction that could be brought by tariffs is considerable. one of the best explanations of the consequences of a no—deal appears in the mirror tonight where they set out very clearly what the problems would be for food prices, for industries and also one of the most important ways that it would harness is that we are going into a very different 2021. we are going into a world where what they're talking about is the biden resets, where you have a new man in the white house who wants to run his foreign policy ina different who wants to run his foreign policy in a different way. so when we should be trying to look after that relationship with america, which is going to be crucial for us, we are going to be crucial for us, we are going to be messed up in red tape caused by a no—deal. i going to be messed up in red tape caused bya no—deal. i mean, the consequences of this, i think, we are probably only nowjust facing up to them. let's hope that those
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involved are getting very serious about this. i notice, james, looking at the headline in the financial times tomorrow morning, trade talks extended, party still splits on key issues. however much these talks have involved keeping talking, they haven't actually involve changing very much, have a as far as from the outside commander may be going on then we have been told about, but it looks like they've been kind of arguing around in the same circle for at least the last five days. yeah, that's one thing that has to wear you. the problem is you have to have a compromise, and neither side appears terribly willing to compromise, and i think there comes a time when you've got to say, well, look, not compromising is going to be so costly that their reaction, the effect on our economy is going to be so brutal that it is really time to think about doing a deal.
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they need to get it done.|j time to think about doing a deal. they need to get it done. i was very struck when you were talking about your column on saturday. you brought back some memories for me as a small child of those endless stories on the news about barbara castle and other opponents of europe going in and doing their shopping in brussels and doing their shopping in brussels and showing the british housewife, as of course it was always seem to be out noun those days coming out any of us, that the shopping was going to cost more if we joined the european community. it's interesting, isn't it, that some of those quite catchy ways of making these arguments, anne, they haven't been explored. we sort of accepted brexit, it happens, we argued about it, we argued a ludicrous amount of times over the parliamentary arithmetic and the legal side of its, but in terms of what it meant a two day and what it might mean day—to—day, that there has still been quite a lot of gaps in your area of journalism been quite a lot of gaps in your area ofjournalism for been quite a lot of gaps in your area of journalism for example. been quite a lot of gaps in your area ofjournalism for example. i'm sure you've done this, but there hasn't been a lot about how property values might change, how things like
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people doing and buying things for their home might change, have the basic stuff of just groceries their home might change, have the basic stuff ofjust groceries and all the rest of it might change if we are in a world where there are import duties. well, i think we need not look to consequences for all kinds of things that we take for granted, as you said before, and the saddest thing about this is the consequences of a no—deal are going to be most harshly felt in those areas of the north that voted for brexit in the eu referendum and just a year ago, brexit in the eu referendum and just a yearago, went brexit in the eu referendum and just a year ago, went out to supports borisjohnson at the a year ago, went out to supports boris johnson at the election on the basis that he would get brexit done. we didn't maybe ask the questions that we should've been asking because there was, what was a guarantee or a pledge that brexit would be done, but now we are told that all of this is talk about oven
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ready deals only apply to a withdrawal agreement to the trade deal, it didn't. but ijust sensed that there is a will to get this done, and let's hope, you know, that is what happens for all our sakes. indeed. you've reminded me that borisjohnson talks about churchill, perhaps he could've done with a bit of shakespeare over the last few days if it were done quickly. let's move days if it were done quickly. let's m ove o nto days if it were done quickly. let's move onto another story. james, do you have school—age children or not? ido, indeed. i've you have school—age children or not? i do, indeed. i've two school—age children. what do you make of the front of the telegraph tomorrow morning? i think it is very difficult because i mean, it was extremely hard for us when our kids we re extremely hard for us when our kids were at home and trying, itjust doesn't really work doing this sort of re m ote doesn't really work doing this sort of remote learning, and teaching,
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especially for our son who is very bright but autistic i was very very difficult for him, and i think, you know, it is going to be very difficult for them to shut the schools, but on the other hand, i remember the term circuit breaker used a lot around half term, and i think we are coming to the end of term. in the last week before christmas, schools, let's face it, there is less work done, and i think with the infection rates rising as they are, it mightjust be sensible for them to say, you know what, let's call time on this. because i know one thing, i look at my e—mail every day, and there is a covert update from one of my children's schools, either my daughter's primary school or my son's high school or often both. so i think perhaps it might just school or often both. so i think perhaps it mightjust be the time to say, yeah, 0k, we know education is vitally important. you can't overstate how important it is, and
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it doesn't really work doing it remotely, but with infection rates as they are, maybe we just close this week. the headline on the telegraph says sadiq khan and calling for all of their cool neck schools to close. i heard this and a pub last week, the leonard singh he was pretty certain that he felt he wasn't going to be open over the christmas period because he thought we we re christmas period because he thought we were moving into tier 3. 0bviously, that isn't an official decision, but that has been leaked to newspapers has that effect as well. sadiq khan and a sense is really being preempted by the leader of greenwich borough council who this evening contacted all the schools in his part of southeast london and said you must close at the end of the school day on monday. having said all of that, we take back to james' point, for many families, this is going to be an extra stressful week ahead of christmas if they suddenly find they've got to deal with childcare.
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we know that one of the bad side effects —— side effects of coronavirus has been an equality in education that some people at private schools have been beautifully taught throughout the period when schools were taught and then some other children without laptops or computers or anything also to home entirely missed out on education, and this is going to be one of the things that were going to have to tackle after the pandemic. at times struggling to understand how, if london goes into tier 3 this week, what then happens when we go out into this glorious christmas period, this dickensian christmas period, this dickensian christmas period when we go around the street and saying god bless us, everyone. and people know we are going to go into tier 3. the party that's happening in some parts of london willjust reach happening in some parts of london will just reach fever happening in some parts of london willjust reach fever pitch. but i must say, personally, sometimes when you are outcome you want to say to people who are loudly greeting a
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friend that they haven't seen for a while and hugging them thinking, do you realise what you could be doing? and i'm almost close to sing to some become a look, if you haven't seen them for six months, just don't hug them, maybe bow because those consequences are going to be dire. that's an interesting suggestion, the bowing, i like that, because there are some cultures without regard it as greeting. why not? of just inking of going to china where people have their business cards you with both hands and you take it in the same way. maybe that was a bit too close contact, but something about the familiarity that's been introduced, james come even with the elbow rubbing. i'm going to get you to move on if i may. james, the guardian, wind rush pay—outs will be bigger and quicker. the story is still not going away, is it? no, and i think we need to get a grip on it. wind rush, some of the stories about people, british citizens being sent out of the country, they were just
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heartbreaking. this was one of the most horrible stories and they need to get a grip on it, they need to get the money out there, these people are british citizens. they we re people are british citizens. they were unjustly sent out of the country and we need to have them back and we need to have them compensated for what they've gone through, because it's just inexcusable, friendly. it's just terrible. let's end this review, if we may, anne, with the very bottom left hand, the news in brief section of the telegraph, a quarter of a million to get vaccine in the uk this week. now, the vaccine has been a great thing. somebody said to me last week that he had been so cheered about the vaccine he just showed what cooperation can do, and it was mankind at its greatest. so we may be able to... let's remember...
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brought us the fact... as many as a quarter of a million people could be vaccinated. now, think of exactly what the consequences of that could be, and also that, you know, as we move towards that's kind of immunity, towards me be summer when things go back to normal, so there are reasons to be cheerful. there are reasons to be cheerful. there are indeed. anne, james, thank you both very much. anne and james will be back at 11:30 for another look at the papers. goodbye for now. we will be looking at the death, which is on limited to online edition of the papers at the moment, but we will take another look at that little later. for now, thank you both. talk to us again at half past 11. thank you for watching. the weather is coming up. i will be back with a new summary at 11 p:m.. goodbye for now. hello there. well, today was certainly a day to forget.
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lots of cloud around, lots of rain, too. an inch of rain or more in some parts of the country, leaving us with some very soggy scenes today. the weather did change later on across the far west of england and wales, and here in northern ireland, the cloud break, and this is the sort of air that we're moving into tonight and tomorrow. it's a much more showery airstream coming in the base of that area of low pressure that's chasing in behind those weather fronts that have been bringing the more persistent rain. through tonight, that more persistent rain will move its way out into the north sea, but you can see a whole rash of showers packing in behind that. some of those could be quite heavy, potentially with some thunder in there as well, and we've still got some rather strong and blustery winds overnight, so it's going to be very mild. in actual fact, in scotland and the northeast of england, temperatures will rise as the night goes on to eight or nine degrees by the morning. could be quite a wet start, though, for much of scotland and northern england, showers continuing to run into western areas through the day. some of those showers pushing their way eastwards, but perhaps not many showers
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for northern ireland and the showers becoming fewer in the afternoon in scotland. those winds still quite strong and blustery near those showers, and the winds are still coming in from the south or southwest so it's still mild air that's heading our way. temperatures could reach 13 degrees this time in the southeast of england, and it's going to be a milder day for scotland and the northeast of england, nine or ten degrees here. those showers continue into the evening, and again, some of them could be heavy, but as we head further into the evening and overnight, the winds do start to ease down a bit. we've still got the main driver of the weather, that area of low pressure sitting to the northwest, but it's beginning to weaken. we've got the threat of this weather frontjust brushing in to the far south east of england, could potentially bring more cloud and a bit of rain, but it looks like mostly showers will be running into the south coast through the irish sea into some of the western parts of the uk. but in general, fewer showers, i think, on tuesday, more places will be dry with some sunshine and the winds won't be quite as strong either, but temperatures may not be quite as high. 9—11 is still above normal
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for this time of the year. really, through the rest of the week, it stays mild. we're not looking at any frost overnight, but it stays very unsettled. some windy weather for western areas on wednesday, rain perhaps wetter again on friday. for all parts for a while, and then it goes more showery, perhaps wetter again on friday.
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this is bbc news, with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. britain and the european union decide to extend the brexit negotiations yet again, after a phone call between the two leaders. despite the fact that deadlines have been missed over and over, we both think that it is responsible at this point in time to go the extra mile. there is a deal to be done — if our partners want to do it. but we remain very far apart on these key issues. europe's chief negotiator, michel barnier, will brief ambassadors about the talks' progress, first thing on monday morning. the first consignments of pfizer's covid vaccine
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