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tv   The Papers  BBC News  December 13, 2020 11:30pm-11:46pm GMT

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hello. this is bbc news with me, shaun ley. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment — first the headlines. another deadline extended — brexit talks will now continue as both sides agree to carry on after being unable to come to an agreement. or indeed to not talk anymore. i am afraid we are still very far apart on some key things but where there is life, there is hope. we will keep talking in the uk certainly won't be walking away from the talks. i think people expect us
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to go the extra mile. we have accordingly mandated our negotiators to continue the talks and see whether an agreement can be reached, even at this late stage. a warning to borisjohnson — relaxing coronavirus restrictions this christmas will lead to a third wave of infections all schools in greenwich have been told to close from tomorrow as coronavirus rates in the south east london borough reach the highest level since march. police in lincolnshire have arrested two teenagers on suspicion of murder after the discovery a school boy's body. the cold war novelist john le carre, who wrote tinker tailor soldier spy, has died at the age of 89 following a short illness.
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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the chief business commentator at the independent, james moore, and the property and personal finance commentator, anne ashworth.. welcome back to both of you. let me bring you up—to—date if you are watching us from home on the headlines from the guardian. we've got a couple more papers and since the last hour, but we will begin with the the guardian. the pm and von der leyen vow to go "extra mile" writes the paper, saying there is renewed hope of a deal being struck within days. "we're into extra time" reports the metro — after the phone call between the two leaders today. the financial times claims hopes have been rising in london and brussels that a post—brexit trade deal can be rescued —
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but that the two sides still remain "far apart" on key issues. the i also leads on brexit talks and says negotiations could continue to christmas. meanwhile, the daily telegraph says the talks could go on until new years eve. the paper also claims that london mayor sadiq khan is calling for all schools in the capital to shut from tomorrow as covid infection rates are rising rapidly. it says it is now "inevitable" that london will go into tier 3 next week. and on the frontpage of the times — a photograph of the spy novelist writerjohn le carre, who has died at the age of 89. i knew rampage, sitting on it a bit, give you a chance to see it clearly. the photograph there, even though he wrote about the sinister and cut we re wrote about the sinister and cut were “— wrote about the sinister and cut were —— cut—throat world of spies. this pineapple is too has died at
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the age of 89. welcome i made a bit ofa the age of 89. welcome i made a bit of a meal if that one, didn't buy? but we will come back to that in a moment. but let's begin if we may. anne, let's start with the times and let's talk about the front page of the times, signs of progress. i have to say, you know your paper former —— former paper very well. what progress, because i couldn't see many. well, i think i think that there are any, grounds for optimism, that they have gone back to the table and they are going to to get a deal, and that it may come as some of the other papers suggest, the talks may go on through christmas and into the new year. we thought today was the deadline, it seems not, and there is a real attempt to
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try and see if there is ways in which we can resolve some of these issues because if we don't, the economic consequences are catastrophic and they won't just be temporarily so. the essence of the time story appears to be, james, that they are edging closer over the question of the level playing field. can you kind of interpret that for us, can you translate that a little bit, because a lot of people don't really know what we mean when we talk about a level playing field. what we're talking about the level playing field is that effectively, you may not have the same regulations, but your standards are sufficiently similar that one side can score around vastly undercutting the other, and you know, people are saying, well, we are actually going to go much under what the eu does
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anyway, we are fairly closely aligned as it is and there aren't any signs of going under, but the uk says, welcome you know, we must have the option to change our rules in that you says, well, no, we need you to be somewhere similar to where we are so you to be somewhere similar to where we are so you can't go and undercut our manufacturers and our goods. it's this point which is the sticking point, it's this idea of some sort of alignment which is the sticking point, and it's... they are dancing around it and, i mean... when they say edging closer, what they are talking about his baby steps, they really are.|j they are talking about his baby steps, they really are. i think that was put to very well, james. the front of the metro has we are into extra time. i mean from a baby steps at the moment but i hope that doesn't mean we are adding towards penalties. yeah, and the penalties would definitely be the word, because not only with a no—deal be
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catastrophic for boris johnson's career, that would be how he was remembered in history books, but it will be catastrophic for the car industry and some the other businesses and we know that tariffs would add to bills for ordinary households, but i think one of the most interesting things that i had heard this morning was the view of the spanish foreign minister on what trade talks are about to come and he said something very interesting. he said all about the interdependence... trying to assert its sovereignty, trying to assert its sovereignty, trying to assert its independence in these talks rather than thinking of ways in which we and europe need each other for him if nothing else, nearly £400 billion of experts from britain go to the eu every year. and that also, we are going into a very new worlds where there is a different guy in
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the white house and the tectonic plates may be moving. so i think this is... pressure on us to get a deal, and if it takes until midnight on new year's eve, nobody is going to be able to go out partying anyway, so they may as well have had trade talks. now there is a thought. i haven't thought of it like that, but that's a great way of putting it. james, the ft also headlining, of course, on this says, still split on the key issues, level playing field remains a sticking point. you say baby steps, can you see something that would be just about enough for them both to be able to, both sides to people to claim victory and therefore to sell this deal to the sceptics, to be fair, there are european sceptics, in other words hard—line there are european sceptics, in other words ha rd—line brexit there are european sceptics, in other words hard—line brexit years, but there are also sceptics as we know in the palace and in other places in the eu who would see any further concession to the uk is simply not in your‘s interest.
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this is the thing, first of all, you've got to get it... and then you have to get a deal ratified. the thing is that it is fundamentally in everybody‘s interest to get this done and there is a certain amount of politics when you see quotes about taking a hard line, there is a bit of theatre, bit of, you know, we are being tough, so maybe behind the scenes they can just inched toward something, something which is really probably the only way that they are going to get some sort of budge to satisfy both sides. but you know, it is quite scary, because, you know, for someone like me, i rely on insulin, type one diabetic, it's an autoimmune condition, and without that, i'm in real trouble, it's
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important. we are going to season cu es eve n important. we are going to season cu es even if important. we are going to season cues even if there is a deal, but if there isn't and if things get hostile, it is quite scary, it is quite scary if you are on medication to be in this position. you're basically left crossing your fingers, so i really hope they get it done, so that people like me, and people who are on low income, for example i wrote about this at the weekend about what a 5% food increase would mean which isjohn allen and tesco said was possibly likely to happen. this is a big deal, and they think they need to get something done from and they need to do it as quickly as possible. writes, let's paddle through some of the other stories. we've given brexit its proper amount of time, i think i'm as it is the story of the day, but a developing story of the day, but a developing story anne it's started from the london news borough of greenwich in the middle of sunday evening. it now looks like, according to the telegraph, that the mayor of london, sadiq khan, things notjust greenwich schools should shut monday evening and not reopen until the new
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year, but schools in all 32 london boroughs and the corporation of london to. this is the kind of story about... you just don't know what to think. it's very evident that the infections are happening in schools and the solution may be to close schools. however, our children have lost enough education. we know that there were a whole weeks when many children during lockdown when the schools were closed were not being implicated at all. so we know that this is going to exacerbate the education that we already have. also, it is very interesting, in this assumption that london is going to go into tier 3, london should be the powerhouse of the economy. it's the powerhouse of the economy. it's the area where huge numbers of people have already been furloughed. if we see the closure of restaurants etc, who knows what's going to be
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happening in the new year. so i think this is something which i think this is something which i think the government should start giving us some clarity sooner rather than later. also, how does this square with this sort of dickensian christmas we're supposed to be having when we all go out and meet our friends having when we all go out and meet ourfriends and having when we all go out and meet our friends and neighbours and have a traditional christmas. maybe this is the moment they need to start thinking about cancelling christmas. if the risks to health and to our economy are so great. it looks like they've done it more or less that in with week —— lithuania, much the same. james, do you want to look at the story on the front of the guardian about wind rush pay—outs, which despite extravagant promises made by the government doesn't try to back down the fires of this particular controversy still don't appear to have been delivered. it's horrifying that we are still talking about this. what you have to rememberat the talking about this. what you have to remember at the core of this scandal is that british citizens were
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deported from this country. and you know, it'sjust a deported from this country. and you know, it's just a terrible, deported from this country. and you know, it'sjust a terrible, terrible thing, and they need to be brought back. they haven't been already, and they need to be compensated as soon as possible. we shouldn't still be talking about this. it shouldn't be that hard. they need to get the job done. this isjust an that hard. they need to get the job done. this is just an awful scandal and the fact that we are still talking about it now is an indictment, really of the performance of the government getting it sorted out. theyjust need to do better. anne, the front of your old paper, the times, it's a lovely photograph ofjohn le carre. it makes them look very if on killer, and i'm sure he wasn't, despite that grumpy clip of him acting in the obituary we ran earlier. actually, he wasn't a storyteller for children. earlier. actually, he wasn't a storytellerfor children. he earlier. actually, he wasn't a storyteller for children. he was a storyteller for children. he was a storyteller for children. he was a storyteller for adults and his stories are dark stories.
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i've just read the times obituary of him and hugely complex life, which was based on knowing and learning how to live through his difficult childhood through a life as a spy himself by using a pseudonym, but it's all as if the story where a depiction of the world of espionage as what he called a squalid procession of vein people of drunkards, the absolute opposite of this swaggering world of 007 of the james bond stories, but also, this idea that... they are some of the most portrayed people of themselves, if you are a spyr people of themselves, if you are a spy. you people of themselves, if you are a spy, you are going to be portrayed by your own colleagues as... and it was these kind of nuance stories
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that so attracted people, and also made such great television adaptations that we all enjoyed so much. most namely, the people, you know, who weren't around when people came on the television... james, i'm just going to give you a very brief last word, because i believe you're quite a fan. i'm a huge fan ofjohn le carre. i've read nearly all of his books. the great thing about john le carre is he takes you into that world, you are so fully immersed into that dark... it's a bit desperate, it's a bit sleazy, but you are fully immersed in it. and the other thing about it, he did it for so long, you know, some of them and that sort of field to maintain output and stay relevant, because after the cold war went down, he mentioned the night manager which was a great bbc adaptation. there was also the constant gardener which is about the chemical
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industry, and you know,

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