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tv   The Papers  BBC News  December 18, 2020 10:30pm-10:46pm GMT

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in getting a turkey for two, so we'll probablyjust have chicken. we are actually planning to have our christmas dinner outside, hoping that it doesn't rain. what, in the garden?! yes, so, our plan is to have two little tables outside, distanced, and have lots of blankets and maybe a little fire. what do you all think about the government's plans to relax the restrictions so that family and friends can come together, albeit with this warning to be especially careful? i don't think it's a good thing. i think we will pay the price for it come january. natalie, you are nodding, i can see. i think they should have just left it down on lockdown through the whole of the christmas period, and then start up, like, 2021, a fresh year. if there had been a lockdown christmas, people would have just said, "no, to hell with it, it's christmas." at least this way, there's guidance. the vast majority of people will be responsible and mature about it,
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but you'll get that minority who think, "well, i can, so i'm going to." and if there were no rules in place, it would be anarchy. this just seems like another massive super spreader event that's been endorsed by the government. they don't want to be the people who cancel christmas. i think it's a big mistake. part of me‘s really looking forward to christmas, because i'm a big kid and i love christmas. i'm buzzing for it. honestly, the one thing that has been getting me through this entire year is, christmas is coming. well, thank you to all of you for your time and your opinions. however you celebrate, i wish you a peaceful, a merry, and of course, a safe christmas. that's it. now on bbc one, time for the news where you are. have a very good night. hello and welcome to our look ahead
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to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me to give their views and opinions are michael booker, deputy editor at the daily express and susie boniface, columnist for the daily mirror. tomorrow's front pages, starting with on the the telegraph's front page is news that the south east is on alert over mutant strain of coronavirus. it reports that an emergency toughening of restricions could be announced as soon as tomorrow after evidence was presented to the prime minister. fears of a third lockdown leads the i. that's after the pm refused to rule out stricter restictions after christmas. the daily mirror leads with this too. the headline reads, ‘lockdown three fear‘, after the r number was confirmed to be once again over one, meaning the pandemic is growing.
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a different approach from the times. it reports that borisjohnson's plan to avoid a third national lockdown by posting millions of testing kits to homes every week has been blocked by the medicines and health care regulator. the financial times focuses on brexit tomorrow and the news that french police are going to begin patrolling eurostar trains to monitor goods entering the eu — it also shows scenes of long queues of lorries at dover today. and the daily express leads with the queen, and reports that buckingham palace is ordering secrecy over the monarch‘s christmas speech. her words are meant to be particularly ‘personal and poignant‘ this year. so, let's begin. great to see you both and we were wondering if we could start off with the front page of the daily mirror
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andi the front page of the daily mirror and i love thejumper, by the the front page of the daily mirror and i love the jumper, by the way. thank you very much. my daughter loves it, turns into a four button. the mirror, they are all reporting on this growing number of cases and the that there is going to be most of the country in tier 3, now into some kind of lucked down the daily mail is: on the website about the possibly of a tier 4, a lockdown given a different name, let us not pretend that it is not a lockdown. closing all the shops and telling you to work from home just like we did in the lockdown. that is the situation we are in, not that anyone is arguing whether or not we should be doing this is a case of how they can possibly convince you to do it and having just told you can have a five day sprayer for christmas. how to resell this. strong words there
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and strongly put. i do think most people are going to be very sensible, they know the risks and they're not going to try to put theirgrandmas at they're not going to try to put their grandmas at risk for the next few days and a lot of stuck to the rules since the pandemic began and are being very careful about planning the christmases and i think the government did fear that a lot of people would just go ahead about christmas anyway and so they did give this window to allow people to celebrate fairly muted christmas as it is. it does look as though we are going to inevitably head for another lockdown they said it's probably going to be called tier 4, the strongest way of doing it but, it will be a lockdown but not in name. when you look at it, i think the government has this big idea that we will be vaccinated and until the
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vaccine is in everybody's arms as many people as possible and receive infection rate going down in this thing stopping, i think it will be just a cycle of lockdowns but a lockdown nonetheless. we are seeing tougher lockdowns across european countries and i just wonder, tougher lockdowns across european countries and ijust wonder, this is really a surprise to the british public your get together for christmas something is going to happen we are all expecting to spike shortly. of course we were and when borisjohnson asked the shortly. of course we were and when boris johnson asked the five shortly. of course we were and when borisjohnson asked the five day break, there were an awful lot of people said are you sure you want to do this, prime minister and i we learned that these newspapers from month ago, the sage visor suggested something like tier 4 and it was rejected and that things are looking sticky and they're going to have to pull out and start thinking about it. really interesting and looking at the figures come in 2000, we had 240,000 hospital beds and england and this year, we have but hundred
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65,000 beds because the numbers have been cut for a variety of reasons. for the average winter, they have between 8595% capacity if there is 95% capacity, and a normal winter, does not much slack in the system, 9000 beds spare for the nhs to deal with coronavirus but of course, it is the hospitals as well. at the moment, as of today, is 18,000 covid—i9 moment, as of today, is 18,000 covid—19 cases and english hospitals. that is a serious this is, we don't have any slack in the system to deal with this right now. my system to deal with this right now. my local hospital and tunbridge wells is doing with twice the number of cases it had in april, we knew back then that this was going to be better for the winter and we were told that it was predicted with the scientist said, and winners it's read a book about the 1918 notes the second wave over the winter was significantly worse than the one that came first and yes, we have a
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government that makes you sit there and we have been told that perhaps the lockdowns may be a good way to go but the government has repeatedly said, one lockdown and it's over. this short—term way of dealing with things and for being honest with us from the start and saying that once every six weeks, once every ten weeks, whatever it is, were going to have to have a period of lockdown, people can plan and arrange their businesses and their families in such a way that they can cope with that much easier than suppressing last—minute panic stricken changes of tears and rules and everything else. it has been handled so badly. in mentioning the seriousness of it and the early warnings that we re were there from late spring early summer, if returned to the front page of the daily telegraph, it does make you wonderjust how serious things are getting because the headline is quite a small article but does contain on the inside pages
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southeast on alert of a mutant virus strain. this is a story that broke early but your thoughts on this? the announcement that they're looking at it in there looking at the mutant strain and it looks like they've been doing a bit more research and there was a meeting that came about earlier today with the prime ministerand earlier today with the prime minister and whether they were given more information about it and a smaller story on the telegraph but they were talking about how they not worrying about people coming to the southeast are leaving the southeast and so, the proposal could be that people won't be allowed to commute to london or be able to get in and out of the southeast, there will be travel restrictions. so, there's clearly a bit more worry about the mutant strain that we are looking at and they do not wanted to be spreading anywhere else clearly, they are saying that even in the press conference for tomorrow,
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emergency measures. 50 press conference for tomorrow, emergency measures. so it is something they're very worried about but i think we have to get it in perspective talking about it and everybody has lived through this thing and they know the seriousness of this virus. 0n the game and has been suppressed by any of this and they know we've all had to live with this and look at us, we're still sadden our homes were still working from home and it began again when they're trying to bring some normality into this by opening up schools and opening up universities and the one good thing that we've got coming up for the next couple of weeks is the schools of gone out for for christmas and over the new year and january nine, hopefully that will help stem some of the infections because the largest resin infections because the largest resin infection was among school kids, so hopefully, that will have some help. the story, there could be some more restrictions imposed to date. what
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are your plans for christmas? we cannot go up to the northeast, so i will work from home and we cannot see any in—laws and i'm not going to put my mother at risk and a lot of people are going to be thinking like that. your intent which is set to be a place for this mutant strain originated from. hasn't had any impact on how you conduct life or your thoughts moving forward ? impact on how you conduct life or your thoughts moving forward? i'm in a very fortunate situation in being a very fortunate situation in being a single parent and that i can live with my parents are just lived on the road in we can see our grandparents and granddaughters because were small family. it's going to be pretty much is normal for us but there are a lot of people in this part of the world who used to travel and are used to going into the city and so on and although kent has this reputation of being cautious, there are lots of people who are fortunate enough to be
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working from home and there are many, working from home and there are any working from home and there are many, many key workers and there are many, many key workers and there are any many, many key workers and there are many, many pockets of deprivation in the southeast where the strain has been able to take hold and people have seriously suffered and not going to be experiencing a very good christmas. and on one of them, it's not so bad. but they're shielding and still looking after sick family members and so on and they are unable to work on this and that affects us of the assessments and by so, news of the immune strain in the backyard is particularly wonderful. i want to go any further than my backyard most days anyway. the form, the article does talk about an unscheduled meeting and they have not been able to verify that the prime minister is held it this evening but it's is the government sources are rather concerned about this. michael, the
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strength of the front page of the times and a plan to post out some natural flow test kits to homes in the uk has been blocked. that was the uk has been blocked. that was the twin hope that with the vaccine roll—out, this was going to be the rapid testing kits that were going to get posted out with their test results and within a few minutes, whether we were positive or not with the virus, we could isolate we could go the virus, we could isolate we could go about her business and this could help open up the country a little bit more. it looks as though it's being frustrated in their efforts of getting things posted out and the regulators, they are still worrying about how effective these are particularly for those trying to use them. when they've tried this in real time with real people in liverpool, particularly, the effectiveness is gone down from something like 70 to 80% down to
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around 39% and able to work out who has and has not got the virus. that is going people going out and about with the virus unfortunately and so, this is still looking at it and like a sources said, this winter, the watchdog a few days ago, matt hancock is trying to deal with it is as the prime minister so frustrated he is going to ring the regulators himself. we are not sure what i would do and they would have to be doing things entirely properly particularly with the sort of thing. so, you can see the frustration is creeping up with the government. they want the vaccine out there in the test kits out there and they've still got this, there's going to be a lack particularly in the vaccines properly and they have to be rolled out, the one that we've got most bits of debris can get all of the country and so, there is great frustration and this shows that. you
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pulled a face just before we came to you, susie, what a genetic of this plan? was a sceptical face?|j you, susie, what a genetic of this plan? was a scepticalface? i think the plan for borisjohnson being people up and doing anything that he suggest when they're scientists these boris johnson suggest when they're scientists these borisjohnson is pretty optimistic on his part, threatening to ring someone up and waffle at them, thanks, buti to ring someone up and waffle at them, thanks, but i do not think that's going to help. but if they are withholding the regulatory approval, it's because whether it's the vaccine or testing, if you do not have trained medics doing it, it is not going to be as good we don't have enough trained medics to do all the things that we need them to do. the busy in the hospitals the gp surgeries and stuff like that. so, diverting them from what they're doing to do something else, it cannot be done and we have seen today with boris johnson's cannot be done and we have seen today with borisjohnson's plan to try and get or the army to do testing at schools, someone has got to do the stuff and we've got all these vaccines coming at her only way out of this is for us all to get
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