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this is a bbc news special, as the pressure in congress mounts on president trump following last week's storming of capitol hill. i'm laura trevelyan in washington. and i'm tim willcox in london. us officials say hundreds will be charged for their roles in the violence for everything from trespass to murder. democrats push their case for impeachment, as president trump shows no remorse for his actions in the run—up to the capitol siege. as he flies to texas to see the us—mexico border wall, mr trump denies any responsibility for the violence. they vitalised my speech and my words and my final paragraph, my final sentence, and everybody to the t thought it was totally appropriate. thank you. in other news, breaking up illegal gatherings —
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uk police say they won't waste time reasoning with people who endanger others, but will fine them instead. hello and welcome whether you're watching in the uk or around the world, and stay with us for the latest news and analysis from here and across the globe. as congress meets this hour and democrats plan a vote aimed at forcing the president from office, liz cheney, a member of the house republican leadership, says she will vote to impeach mrtrump. this comes as moves to hold the rioters accountable are accelerating. the usjustice department and the fbi have opened criminal investigations into more than 160 individuals after the siege of the us capitol. a range of criminalisty
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‘unmatched' in the history of american law enforcement is how a top us official has characterised the actions of those who took part. michael sherwin says the charges that follow could include ‘sedition and conspiracy‘, among many, many others. the range of criminal conduct is really, i think, again, unmatched in any type of scenario that we've, the fbi or the doj. we're looking at everything from simple trespass to theft of mail to theft of digital devices within the capital to assault on local officers, federal officers both outside and inside the capital, to the theft, the potential national security information or national defence information to felony murder. so, that's the criminal side of things. on the poltiical front, democrats are making the case that donald trump should be the first us president ever to be impeached twice. first, they'll hold a vote tonight calling for president trump to be
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forced from office by his vice president and the cabinet. and that could happen as soon as wednesday. our north america editor jon sopel has more. the first sighting of the president since last thursday. his first appearance since the storming of congress by his supporters that left five people dead and america's reputation tarnished. he wants to parade his achievements over these past four years so he went to inspect the border wall in texas, but it's the walls around him in washington that are closing in. tomorrow, he is likely to become the first president in american history to be impeached twice, though today he was totally unrepentant. the impeachment hoax is a continuation of the greatest and most vicious witchhunt in the history of our country and is causing tremendous anger and division and pain far greater than most people will ever understand, which is very dangerous for the usa, especially at this very tender time.
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donald trump was also asked today whether his language had contributed to last week's riots. then he said, "we have to fight, we have to fight like hell, otherwise we'll have no country left." he told people they had to be strong, not weak, they should march on congress and tell senators what they think. today, he said that language was entirely appropriate. the house will be in order. in congress, they are likely to vote tomorrow on donald trump's impeachment. my view that the votes exist and that the right thing to do is to proceed, because donald trump is a clear and present danger, every second, every minute, every hour that he remains in office. with each day that passes since those terrible scenes, alarm seems to grow, not dissipate, as more and more shocking videos emerge. officers being dragged out by the mob and attacked, their riot shields held up as trophies. look at the bottom left—hand corner of this video,
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as a trump—supporting rioter hurls a fire extinguisher at a policeman. these are scenes of total lawlessness. confused shouting and as state houses across america act on intelligence that armed groups may be planning to storm government buildings, there is high tension in the us ahead of next week's inauguration. and in dc itself, a state of emergency has been declared. specific plots are being investigated. the peaceful transfer of power, the quadrennial celebration of us democracy, has never seemed more fragile, never more fraught with danger. jon sopel, bbc news. we can cross to barbara plett—usher on capitol hill. barbara, house democrats are holding this book tonight where they want to call on the vice president and the cabinet to force the president from
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office, but before we even get to that, it's just dropped that a senior member of the house republican leadership is saying she will vote to impeach the president. how significant is that development? it's quite significant. she's the third highest ranking republican in the house. she's the daughter of a former republican vice president, dick cheney, so she takes her conservatism very seriously and her voice has weight. we've heard reports that she had been waiting this movement, telling her fellow lawmakers to vote as a matter of conscience. it's going to be interesting to see what happens over the next 24 hours because i think her statement really highlights where the republicans are at. do they continue to associate with donald trump, either by vocally supporting him or remaining silent, or do they make a public break like she has done? one other republican lawmaker in the house of new york
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said he would vote to impeach, and it's expected a number of others are expected to. the top republican in the senate, mitch mcconnell, is i do believe that mr trump did commit impeachable offences — — believe that mr trump did commit impeachable offences —— does believe. what are the risks for the democrats beginning another impeachment process? well, there is a risk because once mr trump is impeached, if indeed he will be, it goes to the senate for trial, and they have to continue with it until they have to continue with it until they finish. that could disrupt the opening days of mr biden's administration, and he has expressed concern that this is going to affect his agenda and getting his cabinet nominees excepted. he said congress can do what they, and he's trying to organise something with them. but it could affect mr biden's agenda. it
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could affect mr biden's agenda. it could also further deepen the divisions in the country, and that is something that some democratic lawmakers have expressed concern about. but there is such anger in the house, there is such anger about not only what happened in terms of democracy, but the threats to their lives and there are more threats now that are still active over the next week. so, many feelthey that are still active over the next week. so, many feel they don't know what's going to happen, but they have to take the state, except they can take it, and impeachment is the strongest thing congress can do if mr pence does not use his constitutional authority, which seems most unlikely. thank you very much. let's get more on this now from brian kalt, who is the author of a book called unable: the law, politics, and limits of section 4 of the twenty—fifth amendment. excuse me. the house is going to vote tonight on this idea that vice president pence and the cabinet can
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force the president from office by invoking the 25th amendment. but president trump said today when he was out and about that the 20 minute —— the was out and about that the 20 minute -- the 25th was out and about that the 20 minute —— the 25th amendment poses zero risk to him. what's your analysis? the vice president and cabinet are so the vice president and cabinet are so far not inclined to invoke the section and stripped the president of his power. it doesn't remove him from office technically, itjust takes away his power temporarily. but things could change. if he starts talking more, if he starts looking like more of a threat, then the vice president and cabinet could go ahead and do that. so, nothing yet, but certainly possible. what we've seen mike pence had a meeting with president trump yesterday, the first time they spoke, i think. they had about an hour together and they seem to put on a united front. let's look ahead to the boat on impeachment, because the house is basically the process —— at the vote
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on impeachment. has a president ever been tried for impeachment after office? know, we've never had a president tried after leaving office. we did have a secretary of war who was, office. we did have a secretary of warwho was, and office. we did have a secretary of war who was, and there were some other cases where proceedings continued. so there is precedent, but i'm sure president trump will argue that since he's out of office, i can't go forward and there will be a lot of procedural debate —— he can't go forward. what about this idea bothering a lot of republicans's idea bothering a lot of republica ns's it might idea bothering a lot of republicans's it might be the reason the former attorney general quit recently. the idea of the president could sell hard in himself an advance of any federal crime scene might be charged with, what do you make of this idea? that's very interesting at this point because first of all, it's not clear he has that power. he could try to do it,
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but it would be challenged. it would probably make him more likely to be prosecuted because prosecutors wouldn't want to leave that hanging out there challenge. it wouldn't protect him from any state crimes. he's being investigated in new york. and it also would, if he's being impeached anyway, it might result in another article of impeachment. it impeached anyway, it might result in another article of im| for hment. it impeached anyway, it might result in another article of im| for president to impeached anyway, it might result in anoi iifftle of forfor president to impeached anyway, it might result in anoi iffftle of forjoining ;ident to impeached anyway, it might result in anoi iifftle of forjoining us ant to impeached anyway, it might result in anoi iifftle of forjoining us on to very much indeed forjoining us on bbc news. let's get more on this now from kevin sullivan, washington post senior correspondent and co—author of trump on trial, about the first trump impeachment. as we stare down the bow of a second. thanks so much forjoining us. second. thanks so much forjoining us. tonight we have liz cheney saying she will vote to impeach president trump. mitch mcconnell believes the president committed impeachable offences. are finally seeing republicans breaking with the
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president? absolutely. this is first time we've seen anything like this. the idea that mitch mcconnell would stand up and say that is absolutely remarkable because he led the defence of donald trump last time around. he's the one, he was the wall. he made sure no one in the senate other than mitt romney, notably, voted against president trump. the idea that he is now saying this is stunning. when you look at the fact that president trump will become the first ever president to be impeached twice, what is the political, the toxic political fallout, do you think, what is the political, the toxic politicalfallout, do you think, for that? as much for the democrats as for the republicans? it can really go two ways. the fear among a lot of democrats as they could turn donald trump intoa democrats as they could turn donald trump into a martyr. it can fuel the kind of rage that we seen among his supporters, it could potentially cause more violence, it could allow
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him to say, "they picked on me from the day i was there until the day i left. " the day i was there until the day i left." on the other hand, it could also get some republicans a way to distance themselves from a president who has absolutely disappointed and enraged so many people in the past week, especially. but a president who's had... kevin, you're the author on the book of his first impeachment. how do you think his second impeachment will go?|j impeachment. how do you think his second impeachment will go? i think it will be completely different. joe biden has been elected president, and that is the main difference here. the democrats really have to worry, they've always been wary about whether impeachment was the right thing to do, whether it would backfire on them political. with biden as president, the last thing they want to do is have their new president seem to be stumbling. biden is taking on an unbelievable array of problems as he takes
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office, and some democrats are worried if they add impeachment to that, that'sjust one more thing that's going to get in the way of helping to get the pandemic under the control —— under control. helping to get the pandemic under the control -- under control. given the control -- under control. given the number of people for voted who —— who voted for president trump last time and he needs two thirds majority in the senate, is that realistic? last time, as we saw, completely unrealistic. we knew that going in. this time, the democrats have 50 votes in the senate, they need 67, and two thirds majority to re move need 67, and two thirds majority to remove the president. if one of the people who says that he's going to vote to convict trump is mitch mcconnell, may be another 16 isn't completely unrealistic. it's got to still be a long shot, but i wouldn't say it's impossible any more. kevin
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sullivan, thanks very much for that analysis. it's fascinating because republicans and the senate in 2022, they face a much less favourable maths than they have done. they'll be on defence. it will be fascinating to see the numbers. meanwhile, business problems are piling up for president trump as well. sudden banks and other states saying that they won't be dealing with the trump organisation after he leaves office. still to come... amid one of the worst covid—i9 outbreaks in southeast asia, indonesia is launching a mass immunisation programme using a chinese vaccine. let's catch up with some of the day's other news. in indonesia, investigators have recovered one of the black boxes from the airliner
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which crashed on saturday. investigators have also recovered human remains and debris from the plane, which plunged into the java sea four minutes after taking off from jakarta. the location of debris suggests that the boeing 737, with 62 people on board, was intact when it hit the water. italy's coalition government is thought to be on the verge of collapse. a cabinet meeting has been taking place in which two ministers from former prime minister matteo renzi's italia viva party were expected to quit. that would bring down the government of giuseppe conte as the government struggles to contain coronavirus. the british government has said it will investigate the quality of food parcels being sent to those on free school meals during lockdown after a number of complaints about the size and standard of some supplies. england footballer and food poverty campaigner marcus rashford shared images of food parcels online, saying they were "just not good enough".
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this is bbc news. the latest headlines... us officials say hundreds will be charged for their roles in the violence at capitol hill last week, for everything from trespassing to murder. democrats are pushing their case for impeachment, with president trump showing no remorse for his actions in the run—up to the capitol siege. uk police forces are warning of tougher action against those who fail to comply with coronavirus restrictions. the head of the national police chiefs' council said there'll be more officers on patrol to crack down on those he described as dangerous, selfish and totally irresponsible. the home secretary has thanked the majority of people for complying with the rules, but blamed a minority who she said were putting the health of the nation at risk. mark easton reports. visitors are not welcome at the seaside. southend's beachfront car parks are locked, peaked caps patrolling the shoreline.
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with people restricted, the rats are enjoying new freedoms. this tourist town doesn't want non—locals coming for a constitutional. they shouldn't be coming, they shouldn't be travelling. i think they should define what local is for exercise. i heard there was concern about borisjohnson yesterday going from downing street to the olympic park. what really irritates me is that i hear minister after minister say, "don't go out". but they don't follow it by, "except for your exercise". the news that the town's hospital is struggling to cope, close to running out of oxygen yesterday, has contributed to the sense of emergency. most people do seem to be obeying the rules. southend looks like a place in lockdown. it feels as though the mood has changed. in the last couple of days, police say they'll be quicker to fine rule breakers. there's strong public support for tougher enforcement and tighter restrictions as the appeals from health professionals become ever more desperate.
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we need to really focus on what the enforcement issues are. if the legislation was a lot tighter, it would make it a lot easier for our colleagues in the police force to enforce what we are asking them to do. home secretary, we are warned we may be facing a health service catastrophe. so, why are the rules of this lockdown not as tough as they were last spring? the rules are actually very simple and clear. we are meant to stay at home, and only leave home for a very, very limited number of reasons. that didn't answer the question, of course. the concern is not about the clarity of the restrictions, but their strength. pressed on the point, the home secretary later said she thinks the current rules are tough enough, with police issuing tens of thousands of fixed penalty notices and fines. because of the size of the party and the lack of engagement from people here, you are probably going to end up with our successful staged enforcement approach remains, but we will not linger
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on encouragement for those who are choosing to break the rules. the rules are clear, and we need to abide by them if we are going to protect the nhs and save people's lives. psychologists advising the government say getting people to obey the rules may have less to do with confronting lawbreakers and more with a focus on those who are following the guidance. if you tell people, "everybody is doing this, stop it", actually, what happens is that what people hear is, "everybody is doing it." it begins to set a norm. it tells you, "if everybody else is doing it, why shouldn't i?" and so, it undermines the behaviour. positive tests in southend have been falling in the past week, but 55 people from the town have also died from the disease in the last seven days. what happens next is a matter of life and death. mark easton, bbc news, southend. indonesia is today launching a mass vaccination program amid one of the worst covid—i9 outbreaks in southeast asia.
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a state of emergency was introduced on tuesday as the country reported more than 3,300 new cases — its biggest daily rise. presidentjoko widodo will be first to receive a dose of coronavac, which was developed by china. for more, let's speak with raina macintyre, an infectious diseases expert at the university of new south wales. what is interesting about this vaccination roll—out is that unlike the rest of the world, they're going for a much younger demographic. just explain the reasons behind that. so, indonesia has a younger population. it's different from say the uk or australia or the us, which have ageing populations. the proportion of people who are young is much, much higher in a country like indonesia, and we know that transmission is highest in the young. so, i think it's raised the strategy is to try and reduce
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transmission by targeting lung people —— it's strategy is to reduce transmission by targeting young people. may be a reasonable strategy ina young people. may be a reasonable strategy in a young population. what is the time frame, potentially, on building herd immunity? it depends. the sooner you can get herd immunity? it depends. the sooner you can get high vaccine coverage rates, the sooner you may potentially reach of herd immunity. we don't know yet if the vaccines can achieve herd immunity because we don't know the duration of action. basically, the principle is you have to use the highest efficacy vaccine possible and to vaccine as many people as possible. if you have a vaccine that is 90% effective, you can achieve herd immunity by vaccinating 66% of the population.
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but the other problem here is they're using a chinese vaccine, which i don't get completed —— i don't think it completed its phase three trials. do you think it'll have a problem with take—up? three trials. do you think it'll have a problem with take-up? quite often, manufacturers will make the phase three trials available for agencies before they are published. we have seen phase one and two trials published. it looks reasonably effective, but it certainly not in the 90% range. thank you very much indeed. britain and canada have accused china of human rights violations and "barbarism" against its uighur minority and announced new rules to ban imports of goods suspected of being made using forced labour. the uk says that british firms doing business in china will face fines if they don't do enough to show their products are not linked to camps where uighurs and other minorities are being held.
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so, what has the reaction been to the criticism? our correspondent in beijing, john sudworth, explains. it is already being met with a furious response from china, one official describing it as baseless. and it may well become to be seen here as the moment when the so—called golden era, launched just a few short years ago by david cameron, finally came to an end. china's critics will say it may not go far enough. there was no announcement from the uk foreign secretary of sanctions on chinese officials responsible for these policies, and nor does he support the putting in place of tough human rights preconditions for any post—brexit trade deal with china. nonetheless, these were very tough words. he says what is happening in xinjiang is truly horrific, barbarism, he said, we hope was lost to another era. and whatever they think of the measures, that kind of language will certainly rankle
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here in beijing. it was interesting hearing president trump in texas today talking about the china flu or the chinese flake. some people believing that the white house made the preparing to release more information about china and the relationship with the rest of the world —— the chinese plague. relationship with the rest of the world -- the chinese plague. that's right. president trump trying to banish what he sees as his legacy, but tonight on capitol hill, lawmakers are gathered. we have live pictures of what's going on there and they are going to try to force the vice president and the cabinet to hold the president a —— accountable. this comes as a leading republicans, including the number three in—house leadership, have said she will vote to impeach the president. we expect that vote tomorrow. do stay with us. we are
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going to be back in half an hour. bye— bye. this week. the weather is going to be cold and bright without... wednesday and thursday both look pretty wet in fact. pretty heavy rain around and went to read is over the high ground we see a bit of a battle of the air masses. pushing up against the cold air across the eastern side means we could start off with a risk of freezing rain. a bright and cold start across northern and eastern areas, but soon the clouds will build in and here's the rain out west starts very slowly pushing its way eastward with some snow developing over the pennines and the higher ground to scotland. some heavy rain from northern ireland and that rain
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stretching on and towards eastern parts of england. further south and west though, it is going to be pretty mild, double figure values here, much colder further north and east and it will feel quite grim with a mixture of rain and sleet and snow. wednesday night looks very wet and heavy rain around and low flooding in place. further snow over the high grounds of northern england and the highlands of scotland is where it's going to be cold once again. further south and west no less cold is values lower than around seven to 9 degrees. as we head into thursday, we still got those weather fronts in with us and stalled across the country and very slowly moving its way south eastwards. this ridge of high pressure will build into the western and they'll start to drive things out across western areas on thursday. so, a drier picture from northern ireland, one or two showers and a bit cloudy and very wet day, rain around, and on the high grounds scotland turning a little bit drier across western areas as they reach high pressure moves in.
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again, temperature contrast cord in the northeast of verses mild in the southwest. and through thursday night, eventually it's going to out and it turns but try leaning in legacies of clouds and mist and fog around as the winds fall lighter and under of this ridge of high pressure which will bring the day on friday but then ray will push it to the northwest of the country late on friday and into the weekend and the pressure takes control and will be turning wetter and windier. largely dry and cool for many days on friday, rain pushing for northern ireland in scotland than insulting in scotland then unsettled
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the headlines the acting us attorney for the district of columbia has said there could be hundreds of charges in connection to the capitol hill protests. he said the offences could range from trespass and sedition to murder. president trump has said it is time for the united states to heal and respect law and order. he was speaking for the first time since the storming of the capitol building on a visit to the us border wall with mexico in texas indonesia says — the black box — flight recorder has been retrieved from the plane which crashed into the sea nearjakarta three days ago. it's hoped the second black box, with the cockpit voice recorder, will be found soon. the northern lights have been lighting up the skies of scotland this week. these are some of the pictures taken by bbc weather watchers.
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