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good morning, welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today: as ten million people receive their firstjab across the uk, trials are taking place to see whether it's safe to have different vaccines for the first and second dose. good morning from epsom racecourse, temporarily transformed into a mass vaccination centre. we are live here all morning looking at how the vaccination programme is being rolled out on the ground. nationwide applause in honour of captain sir tom moore. his family say they were "incredibly touched". a fair price for energy or pushing people into poverty?
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charities have told breakfast they're worried about the impact of rising fuel bills for millions of households. the premier league champions liverpool, lose at home again. they're beaten by brilliant brighton at anfield, in another of this season's big surprises. good morning. today again we have got some rain, sleet and hills now in the north, rain in the south, moving north through the day. as we head into the weekend it will turn colder for some with more seeing some snow. details later. good morning. it's thursday, the 4th of february. our top story. a life beyond lockdown seems a step closer, after the chief medical advisor chris witty announced the uk was "past the peak" of the coronavirus outbreak. there was caution though, as he warned that case numbers remain very high. the news came after the prime minister said more than 10 million people have now received a firstjab
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of a vaccine across the uk. the government is aiming to offer a first dose to 15 million of the most vulnerable people by mid—february. the prime minister said that so far in england, almost 90% of everyone aged over 75 has received an initial dose. that's people who died within four weeks of a positive covid—19 test. with more than ten million people now having had their firstjabs across the uk, the vaccination roll—out is well under way. but could mixing doses of the oxford—astrazeneca and the pfizer—biontech vaccines offer the body even chances to develop defences against the virus? that's what's behind a new trial being unveiled today. the study will involve 820 volunteers, none of whom have yet had the vaccine. all will be aged 50 or over, part of the group to be vaccinated in the next priority wave.
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the trial will run initially at eight sites across england. what we're doing here is we are looking to see how well people's immune systems respond if you give the first dose with one covid vaccine, the second with another. and the reason we want to do that is to build flexibility into the uk immunisation schedule for covid vaccines, and even globally. it makes it much easier to administer these vaccines if you don't have to worry too much about always giving the second dose the same as the first dose. that also brings resilience into the immunisation schedule. if there were to be supply problems with one of the vaccines, then you are protected against that by being able to immunise with the other vaccine as an alternative. researchers believe there are good reasons to think it may work. for example, exactly this process was used in the fight against ebola. introducing flexibility in the vaccination programme could also help, should there be disruption to vaccine supplies, and it may be of huge benefit to developing countries that have
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yet to get vaccination programmes up and running. the first results should be known by the early summer. dominic hughes, bbc news. there are now more than 1500 sites in england offering coronavirus vaccinations, as the mass immunisation programme continues to accelerate. there are now nearly 90 large scale vaccination centres, after another 39 open today. people can also access the jabs at high street pharmacies, and at gp and hospital hubs. crystal palace football club is the latest to open its gates to the public. the uk and eu have said they will work hard to resolve concerns about the impact of the brexit trade deal on northern ireland. since the start of the year, supermarkets have struggled with supplies, and border checks had to be suspended last week when staff were threatened. talks last night were described as constructive. the family of captain sir tom moore said they were "incredibly touched" by people taking part in a nationwide applause in his memory last night. the prime minister led the tributes to the 100—year—old
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fundraiser, who died with coronavirus on tuesday. a warning that this report from john maguire contains flash photography from the start. captain sir tom moore's home has seen some spine tingling moments in recent months. his 100th lap, his 100th birthday, and last night, his familyjoined the nation to applaud his extraordinary achievements. applause. staff at bedford hospital showed their appreciation for the man they said they'd been immensely privileged to care for in his last days. his name will always be synonymous with the nhs. at whiston hospital on merseyside, they described him as their hero.
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he touched people in every part of our society, and in cities across the uk they took a minute to say thank you. the captain tom train pulled into london's paddington station, as staff formed a guard of honour. so, how should he be more permanently remembered, the prime minister was asked at the downing street covid press conference? 0n the issue of a statue for captain tom moore, a public memorial of some kind to captain tom, i'm absolutely, of course, open to that. i know that everybody — that's the kind of thing that people would want to support, and we'll be working with his family to see what they feel is most appropriate, and be taking that forward. the six o'clock kick—off allowed
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for manchester city and burnley footballers tojoin in. one of his most cherished accolades was being named honorary colonel at the army foundation college in harrogate. and serving soldiers of the royal irish regiment honoured a former soldier in the loudest way they could. back in his home village in bedfordshire, the applause was not only for captain sir tom, but also the family that had supported him throughout his endeavours. he may be gone, but will never be forgotten. john maguire, bbc news, bedfordshire. take a look at these images of the white cliffs of dover. this footage, captured by a local fisherman, shows chunks of the famous chalk cliffs crumbling and falling
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into the english channel. dave waterfield said he heard a loud crack, started filming and seconds later the top started to boggle. and as you can see, an entire section started to give way. i as you can see, an entire section started to give way.— as you can see, an entire section started to give way. i think we need to wait for it- _ started to give way. i think we need to wait for it. there _ started to give way. i think we need to wait for it. there is _ started to give way. i think we need to wait for it. there is more - to wait for it. there is more coming. a study carried out in 2016, found the cliffs are retreating by up to 12 inches year because of coastal erosion. 0h! oh! i didn't think it would be that dramatic. it makes sense, doesn't it? when we look at various parts of the country and you see how things have eroded, you know what that reminded me of? i was very look at one point to be in antarctica. you know when the ice ledges break? it is called carving. that looked
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exactly like that. and the noise. it is like a thunder on around you. it is like a thunder on around you. it is one of those stories we often do in relation to households that live close to the water's edge. you don't often see the moment where it crumbles for obvious reasons, because nobody is filming when it happens. because nobody is filming when it ha ens. , , ., , . happens. they must have expected it. those pictures — happens. they must have expected it. those pictures are _ happens. they must have expected it. those pictures are great. _ happens. they must have expected it. those pictures are great. nine - those pictures are great. nine minutes past six. good morning. fuel bills could be increased for millions of households this week despite people falling behind in their payments because of the pandemic. our business correspondent sarah corker�*s with us today, and is looking at this one. morning. these are tough times for a lot of people. it may be just the thing they do not want to hear? yes. thing they do not want to hear? yes, that's right- — thing they do not want to hear? yes, that's right. more _ thing they do not want to hear? yes, that's right. more people are struggling with energy bills during lockdown. increased home—working means _ lockdown. increased home—working means we _ lockdown. increased home—working means we are all using more gas and electricitx _ means we are all using more gas and electricity. good morning.
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the timing of this rise is controversial. we're talking about the energy price cap today. it was introduced two years ago to protect people from big, price hikes. it's currentlyjust over £1,000 a year. so, if you get gas and electricity from the same supplier, and use a typical amount of energy, this is the maximum price you're charged. this cap applies to standard or default tariffs. they're the company's most expensive deals. the ones you go on to when your contract ends. lots of people are on cheaper deals, of course. but this cap applies to those of us who don't switch suppliers. that's still around 11 million households. remember this is a price cap, not a bill cap. it's the maximum you can be charged for normal usage. if you use more than a typical amount of energy, your bill will cost more. now, we've been speaking to lyn in glasgow. she's working from home, and has been keeping a close eye on her heating costs.
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so now, compared to last year, it's between £10 extra a month. i owed my previous company quite a bit of money. i am usually in quite a lot of credit. ijust put that money. i am usually in quite a lot of credit. i just put that down to being at home a lot more. it's even more important to switch to try to get the best deal. as i say, i try not to switch on heaters in the rooms that are not being used. and because i live alone i don't need to heat up any other rooms. also things like putting on extra layers. i go for a walk every lunchtime, so by the time i come back i am one. that helps as well. so, what's happening this week? well, the cap is expected to go up. the announcement will made tomorrow. it will come into force april. and it could mean those on default tariffs will pay
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at least £90 extra a year. so why is it going up? one reason is because of an increase in wholesale energy costs. so the amount suppliers pay to buy energy. another reason is bad debts. more people have fallen behind with their bills due to the pandemic and job losses. suppliers are trying to recoup some of those losses. there are, unfortunately, more customers who are not able to pay their energy bill. and that money, therefore, is going to have to be written off by energy suppliers. they often have to take account of that in the cap. the trouble with that in the cap. the trouble with thatis that in the cap. the trouble with that is there is the risk of a vicious cycle that could arise from this. we already know a lot of households are struggling to pay their energy bill. this will increase that for those on those tariffs, which could exacerbate the problem, meaning more falling to the situation of debt with their
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provider. now more than two million people are already behind on their energy bills. that number has rocketed since the start of the pandemic. charities says they're increasingly worried about fuel poverty. people choosing between heating and food. now remember, to get the best energy deal, the answer is to shop around. so, we really want to hear from you on this. have you seen your bills go up? do you think the cap is fair, is it working? is it fair? let us know. tomorrow we are planning — is it fair? let us know. tomorrow we are planning to speak to energy companies and the regulator. remember, of course, to get the best energy— remember, of course, to get the best energy deal, the answer is to shop around, _ energy deal, the answer is to shop around, but — energy deal, the answer is to shop around, but with any tariff, the more _ around, but with any tariff, the more you — around, but with any tariff, the more you use, the more you pay. that is the _ more you use, the more you pay. that is the problem at the moment. home—working, home—schooling, means consumption _ home—working, home—schooling, means consumption is going up. this is affecting — consumption is going up. this is affecting millions of people. we will be — affecting millions of people. we will be speaking more about this lalen _ will be speaking more about this later. . , , , ., will be speaking more about this later. . , , i. later. really interesting you say ou later. really interesting you say you should _ later. really interesting you say you should change. _ later. really interesting you say you should change. it _ later. really interesting you say you should change. it is - later. really interesting you say you should change. it is so - later. really interesting you say| you should change. it is so awful how often we don't follow the advice
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we give. i changed electricity suppliers this week and save loads of money. it'sjust suppliers this week and save loads of money. it's just laziness. suppliers this week and save loads of money. it'sjust laziness. they rely on us for not bothering, don't they? i rely on us for not bothering, don't the ? ~ ., . rely on us for not bothering, don't the ? ~ . . , rely on us for not bothering, don't the? ~' . . they? i think the advice is always to t they? i think the advice is always tot to they? i think the advice is always to try to switch _ they? i think the advice is always to try to switch around, - they? i think the advice is always to try to switch around, switch i to try to switch around, switch every — to try to switch around, switch every year _ to try to switch around, switch every year if you can and get better deals _ every year if you can and get better deals but — every year if you can and get better deals. but this rise is terrible liming — deals. but this rise is terrible timing for— deals. but this rise is terrible timing for households, because not only are _ timing for households, because not only are bills going up, it is also at the _ only are bills going up, it is also at the same time when government support— at the same time when government support schemes are due to end. further, — support schemes are due to end. further, for— support schemes are due to end. further, for example, the universal credit— further, for example, the universal credit uplift, they are due to end in april— credit uplift, they are due to end in april as — credit uplift, they are due to end in april as well. —— further low. more _ in april as well. —— further low. more people will fall into debt. now the weather with carol. good morning. there is now in the forecast today. and in fact for the next few days. more of us, by the time we get to sunday in particular, will be seeing it than have seen it. so what we have today is a cold day in the north. it is still mild in
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the south. but as we go through the weekend it is going to be cold everywhere. forsome weekend it is going to be cold everywhere. for some of us, a good 13 degrees drop in temperature compared to what we have seen this week. as i mentioned, we will see further snow. today it is northern ireland and northern england and scotland that has got a combination of rain, sleet and some hills now. increasingly across parts of scotland we will see that at lower levels in the highlands and grampians, being blown on gusty easterly wind. further south we have some rain moving up from the south—west, heading north—east. that could be heavy and thundery. in between, brighter conditions. you can see the temperatures. eights, nines and tens from northern england, northern ireland and wales. through this evening and overnight the band of rain advances northwards, becoming ensconced across north—east england. 0ur rain, sleet and snow at lower levels moves north across scotland, still glowing in that brisk wind. temperature wise
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we are looking at the risk of ice and frost across parts of scotland. cold, especially where we have got the lying snow, but comparatively milder down south. the met office once again has a number weather warning in force. heavy snow. that means an increased likelihood of impact due to severe weather. things like power cuts, road closures and transport interruptions and disruption. that runs from friday into saturday. more details on that and what we can expect this weekend in half an hour. thank you very much. 16 in half an hour. thank ou ve much. ' ~ , in half an hour. thank ou ve much. ~ , thank you very much. 16 minutes past six. let's take a look at today's papers. "ten million jabs and we're past the peak", says the front page of the daily express. the paper quotes the prime minister describing these two pieces of good news as "signs of hope". the daily telegraph is reporting that chancellor rishi sunak is concerned scientists are "moving the goalposts", leading to a potential delay when it comes to reopening of the economy.
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the picture is borisjohnson and fiancee carrie symonds joining the applause for captain sir tom last night. the mirror also marks the moment — the paper calls the moment a "nation's thank you" to the 100—year—old war veteran. also paying tribute to captain tom, the daily mail headline reads, "now let's give sir tom a statue". the paper is reporting that borisjohnson has endorsed calls for a lasting memorial. worth saying this morning, one of our focus is will be on vaccinations. so we are talking to the minister in charge of the roll—out of that. if you have questions, and so many people have questions, and so many people have questions about the success, which is a huge success so far, do get in touch with us today and we will try touch with us today and we will try to put some of those to him. halt to put some of those to him. half ast to put some of those to him. half past seven- _
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to put some of those to him. half past seven. you _ to put some of those to him. half past seven. you can _ to put some of those to him. half past seven. you can get in touch in the usual ways. remember last week you show me a picture and i couldn't see it very well and you enjoyed the fact that i couldn't tell that you're a cyclist was cycling down a hill and knotted up a hill? it’s hill and knotted up a hill? it's over now. _ hill and knotted up a hill? it's over now, it's _ hill and knotted up a hill? it�*s over now, it's fine. hill and knotted up a hill? it's over now, it's fine. i - hill and knotted up a hill? it's over now, it's fine. i haven't i over now, it's fine. i haven't forgotten. _ over now, it's fine. i haven't forgotten, charlie. - over now, it's fine. i haven't forgotten, charlie. like - over now, it's fine. i haven't forgotten, charlie. like an l forgotten, charlie. like an elephant, i haven't moved on. so what do you see here? see it? what did you see? i what do you see here? see it? what did you see?— did you see? i saw a dog lying on a bed cover- — did you see? i saw a dog lying on a bed cover. what _ did you see? i saw a dog lying on a bed cover. what did _ did you see? i saw a dog lying on a bed cover. what did you _ did you see? i saw a dog lying on a bed cover. what did you see? - did you see? i saw a dog lying on a bed cover. what did you see? it. did you see? i saw a dog lying on a bed cover. what did you see? it is| did you see? i saw a dog lying on a | bed cover. what did you see? it is a etl in: bed cover. what did you see? it is a pet lying on — bed cover. what did you see? it is a pet lying on a _ bed cover. what did you see? it is a pet lying on a bed — bed cover. what did you see? it is a pet lying on a bed cover _ bed cover. what did you see? it is a pet lying on a bed cover or- bed cover. what did you see? it is a pet lying on a bed cover or rug. - bed cover. what did you see? it is a pet lying on a bed cover or rug. two dos. see pet lying on a bed cover or rug. two dogs- see the _ pet lying on a bed cover or rug. two dogs. see the second? not - pet lying on a bed cover or rug. two dogs. see the second? not very - dogs. see the second? not very clearl . dogs. see the second? not very clearly- no- _ dogs. see the second? not very clearly. no. it— dogs. see the second? not very clearly. no. it is— dogs. see the second? not very clearly. no. it is at _ dogs. see the second? not very clearly. no. it is at the - dogs. see the second? not very clearly. no. it is at the top. - dogs. see the second? not very clearly. no. it is at the top. justj clearly. no. it is at the top. just there. there _ clearly. no. it is at the top. just there. there is _ clearly. no. it is at the top. just there. there is the _ clearly. no. it is at the top. just there. there is the second - clearly. no. it is at the top. just there. there is the second and l clearly. no. it is at the top. just - there. there is the second and there is the first. , ., , is the first. they are -- funds. silly sausages. _ is the first. they are -- funds. silly sausages. i _ is the first. they are -- funds. silly sausages. i like _ is the first. they are -- funds. silly sausages. i like the - is the first. they are -- funds. i silly sausages. i like the picture.
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a lot of people spending a lot of time at home. you may be wondering whether very famous people are also getting involved ensures they possibly didn't do before. craig brown has taken this slightly tongue in cheek... george clooney, for example, has revealed that during lockdown he has been doing seven loads of laundry a day.— loads of laundry a day. why? i am doinu loads of laundry a day. why? i am doing fewer- _ loads of laundry a day. why? i am doing fewer. he _ loads of laundry a day. why? i am doing fewer. he has _ loads of laundry a day. why? i am doing fewer. he has got _ loads of laundry a day. why? i am doing fewer. he has got very - loads of laundry a day. why? i am| doing fewer. he has got very small children. doing fewer. he has got very small children- as _ doing fewer. he has got very small children. as well _ doing fewer. he has got very small children. as well as _ doing fewer. he has got very small children. as well as doing - doing fewer. he has got very small children. as well as doing a - doing fewer. he has got very small children. as well as doing a variety of household tasks as well as sewing, cooking and mopping the floor. here we go. john wayne was a dab hand at needlework, apparently. he perfected his technique on the set of the green berets. knitting himself his own green beret, apparently. that is the way to do it. and clint eastwood, they quote in this piece, who was a dab hand at a number of things, including
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ironing. according to this article, clint eastwood used to have a regular column in good housekeeping magazine. i didn't know that. what magazine. i didn't know that. what was it about? _ magazine. i didn't know that. what was it about? presumably - magazine. i didn't know that. what was it about? presumably about i was it about? presumably about domestic chores. _ was it about? presumably about domestic chores. i _ was it about? presumably about domestic chores. i don't - was it about? presumably about domestic chores. i don't know. l domestic chores. i don't know. everybody has got a new skill. get in touch if you can help me with this. why, even if you have young children, do you need to do seven loads of washing a day? because there is a lot of washing. clothes are like that big.— there is a lot of washing. clothes are like that big. maybe there had been a pile-up — are like that big. maybe there had been a pile-up on _ are like that big. maybe there had been a pile-up on one _ are like that big. maybe there had been a pile-up on one particular l are like that big. maybe there had i been a pile-up on one particular day been a pile—up on one particular day and they were doing more. been a pile-up on one particular day and they were doing more.— been a pile-up on one particular day and they were doing more. maybe they have a really — and they were doing more. maybe they have a really tiny _ and they were doing more. maybe they have a really tiny washing _ and they were doing more. maybe they have a really tiny washing machine. i have a really tiny washing machine. 20 minutes past six. infection rates may be falling in the uk. we are going to look at how the pandemic is affecting other parts of europe. portugal's health system is overwhelmed, as the country deals with the world's highest rate of infections and deaths.
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a shortage of beds and specialist medical staff is the main concern as our southern europe correspondent, mark lowen reports. she's weak, exhausted by just a few steps. but overwhelmed by the third wave, portugal had no ambulances to bring her in. so her husband, mario, had to take her to the country's largest hospital, close to collapse. portugal currently with the world's highest rate of infections and deaths. the main problem is the fact that i came here and put another person — a lot of persons — in danger, because there is always the situation that i can pass my sickness, or my wife's sickness, to the other people. the bbc was taken inside santamaria hospital and to the frontier of portugal's battle. beyond these doors, an intensive care unit with just seven
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of its 70 beds still free. 0ne medic filmed for us in the hell of the storm, some working 18—hour shifts. the british variant is spreading like wildfire behind half of portugal's cases. one of the eu's most fragile health systems is now critically short of resources. nurse patricia fonseca nunes says only covid patients are coming. all other surgery has stopped. the emotional burden is immense. well, i can tell you that i remember all my patients who died. i remember their faces. iremembertheir names. i remembertheirfamilies. i remember that 22—year—old that woke up to me and asked me, "what happened to my legs? how am i going to be able to play my soccer again?" i get so frustrated and so sad when people tell me this is not happening. sometimes ijust want to take them by the hand and say,
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"come along, come with me, come and see how it feels like to be losing people." today, germany flew in doctors, ventilators and dozens of beds to help. european partners are keen to show they're pulling together after being criticised for throwing up walls in the first wave. portugal has now tightened a lockdown that it briefly lifted over christmas, a move partly blamed for the new surge. i think the responsibility is more in people, in ourselves, and less in the government. they are trying their bestest. there are many people dying for days. it's something not normal. honestly, very scary. yeah. _ portugal has gone from weathering the early pandemic, to an unlikely global epicentre, as the virus rages through europe's western most shores. mark lowen, bbc news. cinemas are closed in many parts of the world, but it hasn't stopped the hollywood awards season from getting underway.
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for the first time ever, three women were nominated in the best director category at the golden globes. 0ur entertainment correspondent tom brook has been speaking to one of the nominees. i'm not homeless. chloe zhao's picture nomadland, starring frances mcdormand, is a contemporary western, the story of a woman who leads a nomadic life in america's heartland. it's been playing at festivals and at their drive—in venues, and it's generated a lot of awards buzz. for 38—year—old zhao, this, her third film, is a major achievement. she's made history by becoming the first woman of asian descent to land a golden globe best director nomination. 0bviously, she's pleased by the recognition. i think it's great. i think, yes, i'm very happy. i love what i do and anything that can help me keep doing what i love to do, i'll take it. last year, the south korean movie parasite won the top best picture trophy at the oscars. now, with chloe zhao earning a golden globe nomination,
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it suggests that hollywood is becoming more open to embracing asian storytellers, long marginalized by the industry, especially women. these things does, erm, inform, i think, investors and gatekeepers to look at what kind of stories and what kind of talent they invest in. if this means that people that look like me get to do it, then i think that's great. zhao also make history by becoming the first asian woman to be nominated for an oscar for directing. film critics see the recognition she's being given as very significant. it's a huge breakthrough. asian—americans, and asian people specifically, have been really marginalized in hollywood, and it's proven that they no longer have to adhere to certain rules and regulations to get their stories made, that they can do what they want and show all that they are, and all their texture and colour, and bring that to their film—making and story. the awards recognition is going to help boost the profile of zhao's film nomadland.
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with its emphasis on american lives being dislocated, it has topical currency. i think it's speaking to anyone who feel like they're weighted down. this pandemic sort of showed us things can go away overnight. and how do you keep going? hello. coffee ? zhao has developed a career with independent films shaped by her strong personal artistic choices. her next movie is the eternals, a big budget marvel superhero extravaganza. it'll be interesting to see if her singular vision, as witnessed in nomadland, prevails in a film which is much more commercial. tom brook, bbc news, new york. at least we get to see films streamed you're willing to pay for them. so you can pretend you are almost going to the cinema. if you can budget for it, you can say, right, family night, we are going to pay for this, cinema night.-
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pay for this, cinema night. partly because they _ pay for this, cinema night. partly because they haven't _ pay for this, cinema night. partly because they haven't done i pay for this, cinema night. partly because they haven't done the i pay for this, cinema night. partly i because they haven't done the same promotional stuff around the films, i'm sort of thinking i have not heard about quite a few of those films. that is to look forward to. forward to. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning. i'm sonja jessup. an inquiry into the crossrail project warns that a "forensic focus" will be needed if it's to be completed within its revised budget and timescale. the new railway is already more than two years late, and set to cost £4 billion more than the original plan. the london assembly transport committee has urged transport for london and the mayor to make sure past mistakes are not repeated. crystal palace football club is opening up to the public again, but as one of the latest nhs vaccination sites. the club's donated selhurst park in south east london to the nhs. the glaziers lounge in the main stand has been adapted to accommodate nhs staff,
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volunteers and local residents getting their vaccination. as londoners continue life under a third lockdown, it's particularly hard for those who are more vulnerable to coronavirus. people like mark webb who's had to shield because he has ms. we've been speaking to him about how it's been, and he had this advice for anyone struggling in a simialr position. i think the most important thing is to look at yourself as much as look out to others. are you all right really? are you doing enough to look after yourself? are you stepping away from work because at the moment your commute might be from bed to table and that is never healthy in the long term, and are you doing something outside of work? let's take a look at the travel situation now. 0n the tube, the metropolitan line has severe delays northbound between harrow
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on the hill and watford. there's been a signal failure. the a13 is looking busy. traffic heading into london through barking building up. 0n the m25, it'd slow heading southbound on the qe2 bridge following an accidentjust before jucntion 1a for dartford. and in new southgate, the north circular is still down to one lane westbound between bowes road and bounds green road — there's works there too. now the weather with sara thornton. good morning. they call start this morning with temperatures in low single figures, a dry one with some missed and merck around and the odd mist and fog patch. it is a dry start to the day and some sunshine early on and later we see cloud moving in and some showery rain in from the south and west which could be heavy at times was some hail and thunder mixed in but temperature is above average. we keep the rain pulsing for a time through tonight
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but it does clear away into the early hours of tomorrow morning but are not too chilly start tomorrow morning having had that early overnight rain. we go through the day tomorrow with dry weather, temperature is above parfor the time of year but the big story is the temperatures are really falling away with some very, very cold weather moving in through the weekend and particularly noticeable from sunday and with that we will have potentially some disruptive snow at times, lasting into next week. there's more from me in half an hour and plenty more on our website too. now it's back to charlie and naga. hello this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. it's the show that takes virtual technology and garden renovation to a whole new level. we'll be speaking to �*your garden made perfect�* presenter, angela scanlon all about it. we could all discover a new book
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by the end of the programme as bestselling author bernardine evaristo, tells us about her new series highlighting work by black writers. what an amazing feeling you are going to have when you can say you have claimed the globe. happy birthday. sail well. have claimed the globe. happy birthday. sailwell._ have claimed the globe. happy birthday. sailwell. and yes, that's actor russell crowe with a special birthday message for a british woman who is sailing around the world on her own. we'll be speaking to her live from the atlantic ocean, just after 7. the prime minister has praised what he's described as the "colossal" effort to vaccinate 10 million people. this milestone means the uk looks likely to reach the government's target of protecting 15 million of the most vulnerable people by the middle of this month. breakfast�*s graham satchell is at epsom racecourse in surrey, one of the vaccination hubs.
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good morning, graham. early in the morning but i bet there are people still waiting to get the jab. yes. still waiting to get the 'ab. yes, the are still waiting to get the 'ab. yes, they and h still waiting to get the 'ab. yes, they are and they i still waiting to get the 'ab. yes, they are and they willi still waiting to get the jab. yes, they are and they will come i still waiting to get the jab. yes they are and they will come to places like this as epsom racecourse has been transformed and this is normally where you place your bets or have a drink but now people are arriving in the car park and may stay in the car park and there is a desk where they register and i will walk you through the process. they are met by a volunteer and met to a waiting area and normally for a short period of time, just a couple of minutes, they try to get people through as quickly as possible and eventually they will come to the vaccination station, and there are eight of them. a couple of very quick questions, and then they are jabbed and if they are driving they have to move to this area, sit and wait for ten or 15 minutes to make sure they are ok and then they are out and they try to have as few people in here as possible at any one time, and it is a remarkable success story and a milestone to
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have reached 10 million people and we are very lucky to have been able to film here all day and here is a bit of what we found. hold? to film here all day and here is a bit of what we found.— to film here all day and here is a bit of what we found. how are you feelin: bit of what we found. how are you feeling about _ bit of what we found. how are you feeling about today? _ bit of what we found. how are you feeling about today? fine. - bit of what we found. how are you | feeling about today? fine. excited, pleased _ feeling about today? fine. excited, pleased that we are all on with the show _ pleased that we are all on with the show. , ., ., pleased that we are all on with the show. ,., ., x' pleased that we are all on with the show— thank _ pleased that we are all on with the show._ thank you. i pleased that we are all on with the show._ thank you. the | show. good luck. thank you. the -rocess show. good luck. thank you. the process is _ show. good luck. thank you. the process is simple _ show. good luck. thank you. the process is simple and _ show. good luck. thank you. the process is simple and quick i show. good luck. thank you. the process is simple and quick firstl process is simple and quick first everyone — process is simple and quick first everyone is checked in. then process is simple and quick first everyone is checked in.- process is simple and quick first everyone is checked in. then a short wait, 'ust everyone is checked in. then a short wait. just a — everyone is checked in. then a short wait. just a few _ everyone is checked in. then a short wait, just a few minutes. _ everyone is checked in. then a short wait, just a few minutes. today i everyone is checked in. then a short wait, just a few minutes. today is i wait, 'ust a few minutes. today is m wait, just a few minutes. today is m first wait, just a few minutes. today is my first day _ wait, just a few minutes. today is my first day of — wait, just a few minutes. today is my first day of actually _ wait, just a few minutes. today is my first day of actually working i wait, just a few minutes. today is| my first day of actually working as a nurse here and i have rejoined the nursing register. a nurse here and i have re'oined the nursing register.i nursing register. imogen, who will rive nursing register. imogen, who will . ive john nursing register. imogen, who will give john his _ nursing register. imogen, who will give john his vaccine _ nursing register. imogen, who will give john his vaccine left _ nursing register. imogen, who will give john his vaccine left nursing l givejohn his vaccine left nursing five years ago to start a family but she is back. i five years ago to start a family but she is back-— she is back. i thought it was a really exciting _ she is back. i thought it was a really exciting opportunity i she is back. i thought it was a| really exciting opportunity and she is back. i thought it was a i really exciting opportunity and i wanted to play a part in it. fantastic. yes, it's a step in the right— fantastic. yes, it's a step in the right direction. my wife is being done _ right direction. my wife is being done tomorrow and i have just been reading _ done tomorrow and i have just been reading a _ done tomorrow and i have just been
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reading a whatsapp message from my brother—in—law in south africa who is in hospital there with it, with covid-19. — is in hospital there with it, with covid—19, and not well at all. so, yeah. _ covid—19, and not well at all. so, yeah. you — covid—19, and not well at all. so, yeah, you know, it is touching everybody_ yeah, you know, it is touching everybody somewhere. next yeah, you know, it is touching everybody somewhere. next in line, anotherjohn — everybody somewhere. next in line, anotherjohn who _ everybody somewhere. next in line, anotherjohn who is _ everybody somewhere. next in line, anotherjohn who is being _ everybody somewhere. next in line, anotherjohn who is being looked i anotherjohn who is being looked after by his neighbour, deborah. john's wife is in a care home and he's not been able to see her. it’s he's not been able to see her. it's been about _ he's not been able to see her. it's been about a year for everybody, regardless — been about a year for everybody, regardless of _ been about a year for everybody, regardless of who _ been about a year for everybody, regardless of who you _ been about a year for everybody, regardless of who you are, - been about a year for everybody, i regardless of who you are, everybody has suffered — regardless of who you are, everybody has suffered in— regardless of who you are, everybody has suffered in some _ regardless of who you are, everybody has suffered in some way _ regardless of who you are, everybody has suffered in some way or- regardless of who you are, everybody has suffered in some way or another. j has suffered in some way or another. hard not— has suffered in some way or another. hard not to _ has suffered in some way or another. hard not to see — has suffered in some way or another. hard not to see your _ has suffered in some way or another. hard not to see your wife? _ has suffered in some way or another. hard not to see your wife? tier?- hard not to see your wife? very difficult and _ hard not to see your wife? very difficult and this _ hard not to see your wife? very difficult and this is _ hard not to see your wife? very difficult and this is for— hard not to see your wife? very difficult and this is for all- hard not to see your wife? very difficult and this is for all people who have — difficult and this is for all people who have been _ difficult and this is for all people who have been in _ difficult and this is for all people who have been in care _ difficult and this is for all people who have been in care homes. difficult and this is for all people i who have been in care homes and hospitals — who have been in care homes and hositals. , ' . , ., hospitals. very difficult. deborah was a 'ust hospitals. very difficult. deborah was a just a _ hospitals. very difficult. deborah was a just a few _ hospitals. very difficult. deborah was a just a few days _ hospitals. very difficult. deborah was a just a few days ago - hospitals. very difficult. deborah was a just a few days ago with i hospitals. very difficult. deborah | was a just a few days ago with her husband who had a heart transplant three years ago. it’s husband who had a heart transplant three years ago-— three years ago. it's been a very wor in: three years ago. it's been a very worrying time — three years ago. it's been a very worrying time and _ three years ago. it's been a very worrying time and we _ three years ago. it's been a very worrying time and we have i three years ago. it's been a very worrying time and we have beenj worrying time and we have been shielding really since last march. i brought in for his vaccination on saturday and it was brilliant. it really was brilliant. exciting. 50.
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really was brilliant. exciting. so, eah. it's really was brilliant. exciting. so, yeah- it's a _ really was brilliant. exciting. so, yeah. it's a relief. _ really was brilliant. exciting. so, yeah. it's a relief. it's— really was brilliant. exciting. so, | yeah. it's a relief. it's emotional. very emotional. _ yeah. it's a relief. it's emotional. very emotional. they _ yeah. it's a relief. it's emotional. very emotional. they vaccinate l yeah. it's a relief. it's emotional. i very emotional. they vaccinate about 70 --eole very emotional. they vaccinate about 70 people in — very emotional. they vaccinate about 70 people in our— very emotional. they vaccinate about 70 people in our here, _ very emotional. they vaccinate about 70 people in our here, on _ very emotional. they vaccinate about 70 people in our here, on average i 70 people in our here, on average between 700 and 900 every day. this is such a huge success that we are able to— is such a huge success that we are able to vaccinate as many people and we won't _ able to vaccinate as many people and we won't get out of this until we vaccinate — we won't get out of this until we vaccinate the population. with all viruses. — vaccinate the population. with all viruses, the only way we keep them at bay— viruses, the only way we keep them at bay as— viruses, the only way we keep them at bay as with vaccination. it is so important. — at bay as with vaccination. it is so important, so we have to vaccinate the population and get on top of this virus — the population and get on top of this virus. ~ , ., this virus. well, they are getting on to of this virus. well, they are getting on top of the _ this virus. well, they are getting on top of the virus _ this virus. well, they are getting on top of the virus partly - this virus. well, they are getting | on top of the virus partly because they are all working so closely together and it's really interesting together and it's really interesting to see it in operation. you have the jockey club who run the race here with all of the marshals and then there is an army of volunteers from stjohn's ambulance and then the medical staff, stjohn's ambulance and then the medicalstaff, many stjohn's ambulance and then the medical staff, many working on their day. i it is a success story in what has been a year full of dark moments. but here, and in mass vaccination centres across the country they are vaccinating people at breakneck speed and very likely
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to meet the target of this 15 million by the middle of the month. it really is interesting seeing how the mechanics, the nuts and bolts are working, but the other part i find intriguing is that everybody who walks in for a vaccination that you are meeting, there is a story attached to everyone. that is live, but they are walking in there and getting a snapshot of how it has affected them —— that is life. that affected them -- that is life. that is absolutely _ affected them -- that is life. that is absolutely true _ affected them —— that is life. trust is absolutely true because the virus has hit everybody, and as the year has hit everybody, and as the year has gone on, we all now know people who have been directly impacted by this. the overwhelming feeling you get out of this room is relief, relief and joy, so people who are vaccinated here sit here, waiting to go home and you can feel the relief. it's extraordinary. graham, we will be with you throughout the morning, so thank you very much. interesting
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hearing graham talk about the feeling ofjoy and relief. it is an emotional thing. especially for vulnerable people, in those categories who have been isolated and not felt as if they are part of society, being so careful and fearful. we can speak now to our gp, doctor fari ahmad. good morning to you. you must have seen people now who have had their vaccinations or about to have their vaccinations or about to have their vaccinations and just that palpable sense of relief stop yes, when we did the first vaccination clinic, we had quite a few over 90 people who came. it had quite a few over 90 people who came. ., , had quite a few over 90 people who came, ., , ., had quite a few over 90 people who came. . , ., ., ., ., had quite a few over 90 people who came. ., ., ., ., ., ._ came. it was quite an emotional day for some of— came. it was quite an emotional day for some of them _ came. it was quite an emotional day for some of them because _ came. it was quite an emotional day for some of them because they i came. it was quite an emotional day for some of them because they had | for some of them because they had not been out for months but they said i'm coming to get this because they knew it would make a difference and it was actually very moving to see their palpable sense of relief at getting the jab. if}
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see their palpable sense of relief at getting the jab.— see their palpable sense of relief at getting the jab. at getting the 'ab. 10 million, that is the at getting the jab. 10 million, that is the milestone _ at getting the jab. 10 million, that is the milestone that _ at getting the jab. 10 million, that is the milestone that has - at getting the jab. 10 million, that is the milestone that has been i is the milestone that has been passed. you have been part of this for a long time in terms of vaccinating and trying to figure out how to do it, but what does that number mean to you? it’s how to do it, but what does that number mean to you? it's great. it's a real sense — number mean to you? it's great. it's a real sense of — number mean to you? it's great. it's a real sense of achievement. - number mean to you? it's great. it's a real sense of achievement. this i number mean to you? it's great. it's a real sense of achievement. this is| a real sense of achievement. this is one part of the response to the pandemic that i think we are getting right. and all credit to all of the people who worked to get this far, the scientists who made the vaccine, the scientists who made the vaccine, the people arranging for it to go all of the country, the gps and the other pharmacists and other people getting it into people's arms and all the people turning up to have the vaccine. i think it is an excellent team effort. anecdotally, one of the things _ excellent team effort. anecdotally, one of the things that _ excellent team effort. anecdotally, one of the things that people i excellent team effort. anecdotally, one of the things that people are i one of the things that people are noticing is that they are not getting as many colds or flu, those levels are down because of the social distancing and wearing masks. have you noticed that difference in terms of the flu season? we have you noticed that difference in terms of the flu season?— terms of the flu season? we have certainly seen _ terms of the flu season? we have certainly seen fewer _ terms of the flu season? we have
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certainly seen fewer cases - terms of the flu season? we have certainly seen fewer cases of- terms of the flu season? we have certainly seen fewer cases of the l certainly seen fewer cases of the flu and what is interesting around this time of year is that we see a winter vomiting disease or break—outs of that but we've not seen as much of that this year and some of that is because people are doing more hand washing and keeping their distance from people, so you can see an impact on other diseases in the way we are living at the moment. it in the way we are living at the moment-— in the way we are living at the moment. , ., ., . _ in the way we are living at the moment. , ., ., . ., moment. it is world cancer day today and it feels almost _ moment. it is world cancer day today and it feels almost odd _ moment. it is world cancer day today and it feels almost odd to _ moment. it is world cancer day today and it feels almost odd to say - moment. it is world cancer day today and it feels almost odd to say that i and it feels almost odd to say that because we just talk about the pandemic all the time, but there's been a real concern about delays in terms of emergency cancer treatment or urgent cancer treatment, so what are you seeing? you've been very consistent when we've spoken to you through the last year in light of the pandemic about people having to talking to your gp or do report any adverse or abnormal signs that you may recognise in the body? yes. adverse or abnormal signs that you may recognise in the body?- may recognise in the body? yes. i think it is hard _ may recognise in the body? yes. i think it is hard enough _ may recognise in the body? yes. i think it is hard enough having i think it is hard enough having cancer and having to go for diagnosis and treatment but in a
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pandemic year it's become even harder, and there has been an effort to try and keep the cancer services open despite the pandemic and there are places that have struggled because of the sheer numbers of people that the hospital is looking after. as gps, we have seen the anxiety of people struggling to get tests or a diagnosis and then people who have a diagnosis, the anxiety about waiting for the operation and that it might be cancelled and then treatment, and being able to access services that would normally be there. i think this year it has been difficult for a lot of people. yes. difficult for a lot of people. yes, it certainly _ difficult for a lot of people. yes, it certainly has _ difficult for a lot of people. yes, it certainly has and _ difficult for a lot of people. yes, it certainly has and also - difficult for a lot of people. yes, it certainly has and also people are dealing with working from home, changing their amount of interaction they have. 0ne changing their amount of interaction they have. one of the joys of being able to go into the office is having able to go into the office is having a chat about stuff that is not at home. if you're not able to do that
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you must be seeing the impact of people when they come into you and how that loneliness has affected them emotionally and mentally. yes. them emotionally and mentally. yes, i think them emotionally and mentally. yes, i think most — them emotionally and mentally. yes, i think most gps _ them emotionally and mentally. yes, i think most gps across _ them emotionally and mentally. yes i think most gps across the country are seeing an increasing mental health burden that people are facing from the pandemic, certainly from working from home which has brought its own struggles and issues, so i was reflecting with a colleague the other day about 60 or 70% of my consultations have an element of mental health, and it's certainly different to how it was about a year ago and this is the impact of home—working and home education and just being on lockdown. flan home—working and home education and just being on lockdown. can i home-working and home education and just being on lockdown.— just being on lockdown. can i 'ust no back just being on lockdown. can i 'ust go back to — just being on lockdown. can i 'ust go back to the i just being on lockdown. can i 'ust go back to the vaccination i go back to the vaccination programme? we have hit the 10 million mark in the ambition is to reach around 15 million by the 15th
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of february, so is their extra pressure on you? are you seeing in the community in terms of delivering the community in terms of delivering the vaccine to reach the target or has it been pretty steady and consistent in terms of administration? i consistent in terms of administration? ~ ., ., administration? i think vaccination is something _ administration? i think vaccination is something that _ administration? i think vaccination is something that gps _ administration? i think vaccination is something that gps are - administration? i think vaccination is something that gps are good i administration? i think vaccination l is something that gps are good and we've been doing lots of these for a while, so we are happy to do it and happy to get going with it. the issues we have been facing are the supply, so certainly in the north—west i know the supply was cut down because we weren't doing too well and we can't have that, and that's one of the issues and i know probably a week in advance what i am getting but i can't plan beyond that and it would be really good, because us, like a lot of places, we have to get the vaccination programme going so we can hit the targets but it is just having access to know that we will get these delivered so we can talk to the patient and say, yes, this is when you are coming in
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unless it is when the vaccine will be here. that would be helpful. share be here. that would be helpful. are ou well? be here. that would be helpful. are you well? just checking in! yes, i i you well? just checking in! yes, i am well. thank— you well? just checking in! yes, i am well. thank you. _ you well? just checking in! yes, i am well. thank you. good, i- you well? just checking in! yes, i am well. thank you. good, i am| am well. thank you. good, i am pleased- — am well. thank you. good, i am pleased- you — am well. thank you. good, i am pleased. you take _ am well. thank you. good, i am pleased. you take care - am well. thank you. good, i am pleased. you take care of i am well. thank you. good, i am i pleased. you take care of yourself, and it's always nice to talk to you. just checking in. yes, always nice to do a welfare check, and i was reading up because you were asking the question, are you well, and later we will talk to doctor alex george who is the newly appointed youth mental health ambassador, so he will be advising the government, and i've heard him talking already in one of those basic things about saying, are you 0k? those little bits of life, do you know what i mean, mike? just those moments where someone can say something and catch someone can say something and catch someone at the right time. and if you ask it, the automatic reaction is, yes, fine. i you ask it, the automatic reaction is. yes. fine-— is, yes, fine. i was going to say this. is, yes, fine. i was going to say this- how _
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is, yes, fine. i was going to say this. how often _ is, yes, fine. i was going to say this. how often even _ is, yes, fine. i was going to say this. how often even if - is, yes, fine. i was going to say this. how often even if you're l this. how often even if you're feeling a bit headache like and you just say, fine, it's a stock response and maybe during the pandemic people are getting more honest. flask pandemic people are getting more honest. �* . pandemic people are getting more honest-_ and _ pandemic people are getting more honest._ and if - pandemic people are getting more honest._ and if they i pandemic people are getting more honest._ and if they are | honest. ask twice. and if they are feelin: a honest. ask twice. and if they are feeling a bit _ honest. ask twice. and if they are feeling a bit rubbish, _ honest. ask twice. and if they are feeling a bit rubbish, just - honest. ask twice. and if they are feeling a bit rubbish, just say, - feeling a bit rubbish, just say, then you can talk about it. there are bigger— then you can talk about it. there are bigger things _ then you can talk about it. there are bigger things to _ then you can talk about it. there are bigger things to worry - then you can talk about it. there | are bigger things to worry about, but it's great you can have emotions when we can watch sport. contrasting emotions. brilliant _ when we can watch sport. contrasting emotions. brilliant brighton, - when we can watch sport. contrasting emotions. brilliant brighton, and - emotions. brilliant brighton, and how about this? 50 another disappointing night at home, for the champions liverpool as they're beaten this time by a resurgent brighton, all credit though to brighton who were brilliant on the night and deserved the win — steven alzate, with the only goal of the game in the second half. after struggling to get going this season, brighton are now unbeaten in four league matches. liverpool meanwhile are seven points off leaders man city, they've played a game more, and the two sides meet on sunday.
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the solution is always the players, and in that moment you need to have the conditions to do it and it was a tough time anyway, but we did really well, three days ago, six days ago, thatis well, three days ago, six days ago, that is all fine, but for tonight it was not enough and we now have one day more until manchester city come here and they are obviously flying, so we have to use the time. that is how it is. so as liverpool struggle, manchester city look unstoppable. they won their 13th game in a row by beating burnley 2—0. gabrieljesus opened the scoring at turf moor before raheem sterling added a second. they're three points clear at the top of the table, and have a game in hand on the chasing pack. amongst them are leicester city who remain in the top four thanks to a 2—0 win over struggling fulham. wins elsewhere last night for everton and west ham, who are now 5th. it now seems only a matter of time before rangers are crowned champions of the scottish premiership. they beat stjohnstone 1—0 last
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night to restore their 23 point lead at the top of the league. it was steve gerrard's 100th win as rangers boss, and are now six wins away from the title. there were wins too last night for motherwell and ross county. ian wright says he's tired and disappointed after a teeneager who sent him racist abuse avoided a criminal conviction. the former arsenal and england striker was sent the messages by 18—year—old patrick o'brien from ireland, who sent them after losing a match on the fifa computer game. he was given probation, with the judge saying he saw nothing to gain from a criminal conviction. but wright says that sends out the wrong message. alex jankawicz, has been racially abused on social media. he was sent off early on, in their 9—0 defeat to manchester united, and the club say they've passed the messages to the police. josh adams will miss wales' first two games of the six nations
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after breaching covid—19 rules. the winger has apologised after attending a family gathering at the weekend. he was expected to start against ireland on sunday, but has now been released from the squad. there are big problems for organisers of the australian open tennis. up to 600 players, officials and support staff, have been forced to go into isolation after a worker at one of the event's quarantine hotels, tested positive for coronavirus. the tournament starts on monday, and tennis australia says it'll go ahead as planned. our correspondent, shyma, khalil, is in melbourne and joins me now. morning shyma, its a nervous few days ahead. while those in the hotel are retested. yes, anotherfew days ahead of the main event on monday which we are told by officials and by the state premier is going to go ahead as it stands, but i'm here in melbourne park and normally things
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would be busier and it's pretty empty here right now and we were expecting some high profile names, some top names of the sport like simona halep and dan evans to be playing and on court for warm up events and all of that has been cancelled, and this was really a chance for some practice, especially needed for the players who were holed up in hotel quarantine last month when covid—19 cases were recorded on the plane, but none of thatis recorded on the plane, but none of that is happening today and another big blow to the australian open, much to the frustration of notjust for the players and organisers but for the players and organisers but for people of melbourne as well who are really excited that this is happening because this city has seen one of the longest and harshest lockdown is and they are looking forward to it coming back to life. the between five and 600 players officials and coaches have to come
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back with a negative tests before they can return to the competitions and we expect those results to come in later today, in the next few hours. . ~ in later today, in the next few hours. ., ~ ,, in later today, in the next few hours. ., ~ in ., , ., in later today, in the next few hours. ., ~ ., , ., ., hours. thank you for the update and it's a case of— hours. thank you for the update and it's a case of watching _ hours. thank you for the update and it's a case of watching this _ hours. thank you for the update and it's a case of watching this space - it's a case of watching this space over the next few days ahead of the big start on monday. i know in the next hour something rather special with the british sailor getting a gladiatorial message in the atlantic. he has a great voice in that message. and the look as well. he looks like a sailor. he has embraced lockdown hair. thanks, mice —— mike. carol howe as the weather looking? i like the sign behind you. —— carol, how is the weather looking? lots of people are going to have to adhere to that in the coming days. yes, if you can go that fast, for some of us, and over the next few days will see it turning colder when it has been so mild, and a lot of us
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are going to see some snow, particularly as we head through the weekend where it will turn colder and we will see some of the snow going down to the south in current thinking. we have a low pressure driving the weather and it is a positioning of the low pressure which is moving east and south which will determine where we see the rain and snow and also will change the wind direction. today we have rain, sleet and snow across northern ireland and also across northern england and scotland and most of the snow will be in the hills, but on the highlands at times we will see a get down to a lower level and with a gusty wind it will be drifting. we also have a band of showery rain which could be heavy and thundery moving north through the course of the day but in between, something drier and brighter, the day but in between, something drierand brighter, but the day but in between, something drier and brighter, but still mild in the south, cold in the north. as we head through the evening and overnight the band of showery rain moves north and becomes ensconced in north—east england and there is a risk of localised flooding. meanwhile the band of rain, sleet until snow gets down to lower levels and will move across scotland. there
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will be a few showers in the west but not much more than that and the risk of ice and frost in the north but not as cold in the south. the met office has an amber weather warning out for heavy snow across scotland and it starts at midnight tonight and it will run until six o'clock on saturday. the amber warning means an increased likelihood of impacts due to severe weather. to give you an idea, the kind of snow levels we are looking at between ten and 15 centimetres, that's up to six inches of fresh snow and above hundred and 50 metres we could see a foot of fresh snow, so that is 30 centimetres or thereabouts. the areas we are looking at include the highlands, sutherland and also down towards perth. it does not include the southern uplands and edinburgh at the moment. and as we go through friday you can see how you have got the combination of rain, sleet and snow and at lower levels but we also
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have some showers coming in across northern ireland parts of england and wales but a drier day in the south—east and it is still mild and still cold in the north but we are starting to see some colder air filter in from the west. and that is thanks to the positioning of the low pressure and the various fronts rotating around and we start to pull of an easterly cold wind and the low pressure sinks and here it is on sunday and the positioning of that could change. so if we look at saturday the first of all we have the snow across the north of the country and rain in the south and a strong easterly winds so there will be wind chill and also some blowing snow. these are the temperatures, lower than they have been in the south and ijust lower than they have been in the south and i just want to show you another couple of charts because this cold air does filter across the whole of the uk during sunday and we will be looking at one or 2 degrees and this is where we think the snow will be on sunday and as i mentioned and stress, the positioning of this
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could change but we do have strong, gusty, easterly winds and it will feel bitter and some of the snow could well be blowing as well, so some tricky conditions coming up in the next few days. i can always tell when you are worried because you hunter stop your shoulders. you did the little things. _ hunter stop your shoulders. you did the little things. -- _ hunter stop your shoulders. you did the little things. -- you _ hunter stop your shoulders. you did the little things. -- you hunched . hunter stop your shoulders. you did the little things. -- you hunched upi the little things. —— you hunched up your shoulders. those are the signs. ijust want to your shoulders. those are the signs. i just want to get it all out so you are aware that this has the potential to happen. let are aware that this has the potential to happen.- are aware that this has the potential to happen. potentialto happen. let it out, carol. potentialto happen. let it out, carol- always _ potentialto happen. let it out, carol. always a _ potentialto happen. let it out, carol. always a good _ potentialto happen. let it out, carol. always a good thing - potentialto happen. let it out, carol. always a good thing to l potentialto happen. let it out, | carol. always a good thing to let better out than in. see you later on. for many families the biggest struggle during the pandemic has been the huge impact on their personal finances. the government has boosted the amount of universal credit available, but with this extra support due to come to an end, many are worried about what this will mean for them. our political correspondent alex forsyth has more.
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let's just double—check so we can see what you can do to write your poem. see what you can do to write your oem. ~' . , see what you can do to write your oem. ~' ., , , see what you can do to write your oem. ~ ., , _ ,,, poem. like many parents, jess is embroiled _ poem. like many parents, jess is embroiled in _ poem. like many parents, jess is embroiled in the _ poem. like many parents, jess is embroiled in the home-school i embroiled in the home—school struggle. embroiled in the home-school stru: ule. , ., ., embroiled in the home-school strunle. , ., ., ., struggle. sometimes we have to do thins struggle. sometimes we have to do thin . s we struggle. sometimes we have to do things we don't _ struggle. sometimes we have to do things we don't like. _ struggle. sometimes we have to do things we don't like. she _ struggle. sometimes we have to do things we don't like. she is - struggle. sometimes we have to do things we don't like. she is a - things we don't like. she is a sinale things we don't like. she is a single mum _ things we don't like. she is a single mum to _ things we don't like. she is a l single mum to eight-year-old things we don't like. she is a - single mum to eight-year-old oliver single mum to eight—year—old oliver and money has always been tight, but through the pandemic she says it has been worse. being at home has pushed bills up and without a car, shopping locally can be pricey.— locally can be pricey. although the cuboards locally can be pricey. although the cunboards are _ locally can be pricey. although the cupboards are full, _ locally can be pricey. although the cupboards are full, our— locally can be pricey. although the cupboards are full, our fridge - locally can be pricey. although the cupboards are full, our fridge is i locally can be pricey. although the cupboards are full, our fridge is a l cupboards are full, our fridge is a bit empty. this is the week when we don't have much fresh stuff in because it is bill week. jess works in a supermarket _ because it is bill week. jess works in a supermarket but _ because it is bill week. jess works in a supermarket but also - because it is bill week. jess works in a supermarket but also relies i because it is bill week. jess works| in a supermarket but also relies on universal credit. the government put that up by £20 a week at the start of the pandemic to help those like jess who has had to make some tough choices. i’ge jess who has had to make some tough choices. �* ., ., ,. ., , ., choices. i've had to scrape together food from the _ choices. i've had to scrape together food from the tins. _ choices. i've had to scrape together food from the tins. i _ choices. i've had to scrape together food from the tins. i have _ choices. i've had to scrape together food from the tins. i have had - choices. i've had to scrape together food from the tins. i have had to i choices. i've had to scrape together food from the tins. i have had to go to the food bank. i always make sure oliver has got everything he needs, and i would go without. there have been times where i have struggled
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and had to phone up the utility company and say, can i set up a payment plan to pay off this month's bell because i don't have the money. it's been a big part of mine and oliver... , ., . , oliver... getting out and playing hockey has _ oliver... getting out and playing hockey has been _ oliver... getting out and playing hockey has been a _ oliver... getting out and playing hockey has been a lifeline i oliver... getting out and playing hockey has been a lifeline for i oliver... getting out and playing. hockey has been a lifeline forjess and with the support of the support of a charity she's worked hard to improve her finances and the extra universal credit has helped and she is hopeful things will get easier. the one thing is i've always been worried about is am i doing the right thing for him. hopefully he learns the value of hard work. we will get there eventually, i think. there has been a heavy —— heavy economic price of the pandemic and it is obvious in any high street. the government has put billions into supporting businesses and individuals and says it is committed to helping the lowest paid families, pointing to increases in welfare and grants for things like food and bills, but it is being urged to make a decision on the extra income many of those struggling have come to rely on. the government is under
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some pressure to keep that increased rate of universal credit. if it does, that means a pretty big bill for the treasury, about £6 million. at the moment the chancellor is working out his budget and the government says part of the process is looking at the state of the pandemic and the state public finances working out the best way to support people. mi; finances working out the best way to sunport people-— support people. my children will never know _ support people. my children will never know that _ support people. my children will never know that i _ support people. my children will never know that i have - support people. my children will. never know that i have struggled. support people. my children will i never know that i have struggled. my children_ never know that i have struggled. my children will never know that i worry, — children will never know that i worry, because i always am daddy for them _ worry, because i always am daddy for them. ., �* ., , worry, because i always am daddy for them. ., ~ ., , ., worry, because i always am daddy for them. ., �* ., :: worry, because i always am daddy for them. ., ~ ., :: ., them. for anthony, the extra £20 a week has been _ them. for anthony, the extra £20 a week has been a _ them. for anthony, the extra £20 a week has been a lifeline. _ them. for anthony, the extra £20 a week has been a lifeline. he - them. for anthony, the extra £20 a week has been a lifeline. he is i them. for anthony, the extra £20 a week has been a lifeline. he is a i week has been a lifeline. he is a single dad of two, including two three—year—old florence and he says any drop in income would be a real struggle. this any drop in income would be a real strunle. r ., any drop in income would be a real strunle. a. ., , ., struggle. as a household, if we were to have the — struggle. as a household, if we were to have the hit _ struggle. as a household, if we were to have the hit like _ struggle. as a household, if we were to have the hit like that, _ struggle. as a household, if we were to have the hit like that, we - struggle. as a household, if we were to have the hit like that, we will- to have the hit like that, we will have _ to have the hit like that, we will have to — to have the hit like that, we will have to be — to have the hit like that, we will have to be constantly at the food bank, _ have to be constantly at the food bank, we — have to be constantly at the food bank, we will have to ask for assistance for bills. it is difficult _ assistance for bills. it is difficult for everybody at the moment, so we have to make do. and universal— moment, so we have to make do. and
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universal credit makes us just moment, so we have to make do. and universal credit makes usjust make do. universal credit makes us 'ust make do. ., , , ., . do. the government is yet to decide whether to keep _ do. the government is yet to decide whether to keep the _ do. the government is yet to decide whether to keep the increased i do. the government is yet to decide whether to keep the increased rate. | whether to keep the increased rate. there is no escaping the impact of this pandemic on public and personal finances. anthony has had support from the christians against poverty charity which he says has been invaluable.— charity which he says has been invaluable. . , , ., invaluable. there are places out there, invaluable. there are places out there. but _ invaluable. there are places out there, but sometimes _ invaluable. there are places out there, but sometimes you i invaluable. there are places out there, but sometimes you don'ti invaluable. there are places out i there, but sometimes you don't feel you can _ there, but sometimes you don't feel you can reach out to those places because you are embarrassed, because you are _ because you are embarrassed, because you are exhausted and i would have to say. _ you are exhausted and i would have to say. do— you are exhausted and i would have to say. do it. — you are exhausted and i would have to say, do it, because it's the best thing _ to say, do it, because it's the best thing that— to say, do it, because it's the best thing that i— to say, do it, because it's the best thing that i did and the only way we can move _ thing that i did and the only way we can move forwards is moving forwards logelhen _ interesting talking about the financial pressures and we are looking at the energy price cap on how that will impact on bills. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning, i'm sonja jessup. an inquiry into the crossrail project warns that a "forensic
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focus" will be needed if it's to be completed within its revised budget and timescale. the new railway is already more than two years late, and set to cost £4 billion more than the original plan. the london assembly transport committee has urged transport for london and the mayor to make sure past mistakes are not repeated. crystal palace football club is opening up to the public again, but as one of the latest nhs vaccination sites. the club's donated selhurst park in south east london to the nhs. the glaziers lounge in the main stand has been adapted for nhs staff, volunteers and local residents who are having theirjab. as londoners continue life under a third lockdown, it's particularly hard for those who are more vulnerable to coronavirus. people like mark webb, who's had to shield because he has ms. we've been speaking to him about how it's been, and he had this advice for anyone in a similar position.. i think the most important thing is to look at yourself
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as much as look at others. are you all right really? are you doing enough to look after yourself? are you stepping away from work? because at the moment your commute might be from bed to table, and that is never healthy in the long term. and are you doing something outside of work? let's take a look at the travel situation now. on the tube, the metropolitan line has severe delays northbound between harrow on the hill. this is how it looks on the a13. the usual rush hour problems. traffic heading into london through barking building up.
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we keep the rain pulsing for a time through tonight, but it does clear away into the early hours of tomorrow morning. not too chilly a start tomorrow morning having had a early overnight rain. we go through the day tomorrow with dry weather, temperatures above par for the time of year, but the big story is the temperatures are really falling away, with some very, very cold weather moving in through the weekend, and particularly noticeable from sunday. with that we will have potentially some disruptive snow at times,
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lasting into next week. there's more from me in half an hour. plenty more on our website too. bye for now. good morning, welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today: as ten million people receive their firstjab across the uk, trials are taking place to see whether it's safe to have different vaccines for the first and second dose. good morning. iamat i am at epsom racecourse, now a mass vaccination centre. the first vaccine will be given here in exactly an hour. we are alive all morning taking a closer look at how this programme is working on the ground. the chief medical officer says the uk is past the peak of the second wave but case numbers remain incredibly high.
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nationwide applause in honour of captain sir tom moore. good morning. rain sleet and hail snow across northern ireland, northern ireland and northern scotland. in the south of england rain moving north through the day. it could be heavy and thundery. it will turn colder in the next few days. more of us will see some snow. details later. good morning. it's thursday, the lith of february. our top story. the uk is "past the peak" of the coronavirus outbreak, according to england's chief medical officer, chris whitty, but he warned that case numbers remain very high. the news came after the prime minister said more than io—million people have now received a firstjab of a vaccine across the uk. the government is aiming to offer a first dose to 15 million of the most vulnerable people by mid—february. the prime minister said
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that so far in england, almost 90% of everyone aged over 75 has received an initial dose. there were 1,322 new deaths reported in the latest 2a hour period — that's people who died within four weeks of a positive covid—i9 test. dominic hughes has more. with more than ten million people now having had their firstjabs across the uk, the vaccination roll—out is well under way. but could mixing doses of the oxford—astrazeneca and the pfizer—biontech vaccines offer the body even more chances to develop defences against the virus? that's what's behind a new trial being unveiled today. the study will involve 820 volunteers, none of whom have yet had the vaccine. all will be aged 50 or over, part of the group to be vaccinated in the next priority wave. the trial will run initially at eight sites across england. what we're doing here is we are looking to see how well people's immune systems respond
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if you give the first dose with one covid vaccine, the second with another. and the reason we want to do that is to build flexibility into the uk immunisation schedule for covid vaccines, and even globally. it makes it much easier to administer these vaccines if you don't have to worry too much about always giving the second dose the same as the first dose. that also brings resilience into the immunisation schedule. if there were to be supply problems with one of the vaccines, then you are protected against that by being able to immunise with the other vaccine as an alternative. researchers believe there are good reasons to think it may work. for example, exactly this process was used in the fight against ebola. introducing flexibility in the vaccination programme could also help, should there be disruption to vaccine supplies, and it may be of huge benefit to developing countries that have yet to get vaccination programmes up and running. the first results should be known by the early summer. dominic hughes, bbc news. let's get more on this with our chief political
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correspondent, adam fleming. good morning. in some ways yesterday because my press conference from the prime minister was one of those press conferences full of extraordinary news in relation to the vaccine roll—out, which has been a huge success, and the numbers continue to grow. and then come along side that you have the chief medical officer saying we're past the peak, one of those positives. but then underlying we still have those statistics in relation to the number of people dying? morning, charlie. number of people dying? morning, charlie- yes. _ number of people dying? morning, charlie. yes, there _ number of people dying? morning, charlie. yes, there was _ number of people dying? morning, charlie. yes, there was all- number of people dying? morning, charlie. yes, there was all that i charlie. yes, there was all that good _ charlie. yes, there was all that good news _ charlie. yes, there was all that good news but there were quite a lot of bots _ good news but there were quite a lot of bots and _ good news but there were quite a lot of bots and quite a lot of ifs. the first was — of bots and quite a lot of ifs. the first was chris whitty, the chief medicot— first was chris whitty, the chief medical officer, saying we were past the peak— medical officer, saying we were past the peak but only if people continue to follow _ the peak but only if people continue to follow the rules of social distancing, stay at home, wash their hands, _ distancing, stay at home, wash their hands, get _ distancing, stay at home, wash their hands, get a — distancing, stay at home, wash their hands, get a test and isolate if they— hands, get a test and isolate if they prove positive for a coronavirus. so it's not inevitable that cases — coronavirus. so it's not inevitable that cases keep falling. they only keep falling if we keep doing stuff.
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it means— keep falling if we keep doing stuff. it means they continue to fall. the prime _ it means they continue to fall. the prime minister heralding the 10 million — prime minister heralding the 10 million vaccinations but also sticking _ million vaccinations but also sticking to his plan for lifting the lockdown — sticking to his plan for lifting the lockdown in england are very, very slowly _ lockdown in england are very, very slowly he — lockdown in england are very, very slowly. he is sticking to his timetable of looking at the data in about _ timetable of looking at the data in about two — timetable of looking at the data in about two weeks' time, then the week after that, _ about two weeks' time, then the week after that, and the week of the 22nd of february, publishing a sketch for how long _ of february, publishing a sketch for how long it— of february, publishing a sketch for how long it could be lifted. the only thing he is putting a date on and the _ only thing he is putting a date on and the only sector he is talking about, — and the only sector he is talking about, potentially, is schools in england — about, potentially, is schools in england on the 8th of march opening. but only— england on the 8th of march opening. but only if— england on the 8th of march opening. but only if the data proves that it is safe _ but only if the data proves that it is safe to — but only if the data proves that it is safe to do so. i suspect in the next _ is safe to do so. i suspect in the next few— is safe to do so. i suspect in the next few days we will see some conservative members of parliamnt looking _ conservative members of parliamnt looking at _ conservative members of parliamnt looking at those graphs, looking at the number of cases falling, looking at those graphs, looking at the number of cases failing, the number— the number of cases failing, the number of— the number of cases failing, the number of people going into hospital falling. _ number of people going into hospital failing, the number of people dying falling _ failing, the number of people dying falling. and saying, can't we go a little _ falling. and saying, can't we go a little bit — falling. and saying, can't we go a little bit faster? i think the government will resist. like _ government will resist. like you. the uk and eu have said
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they will work hard to resolve... the uk and eu have said they will work hard to resolve concerns about the impact of the brexit trade deal on northern ireland. since the start of the year, supermarkets have struggled with supplies, and border checks had to be suspended last week when staff were threatened. talks last night were described as constructive. the woman accused of killing harry dunn was working for a us intelligence agency at the time of the crash. a court in the us has heard her work was "especially a factor" in her leaving the uk. 19—year—old harry, died when his motorbike was in a crash with a car near raf croughton in northamptonshire in 2019. the family of captain sir tom moore said they were "incredibly touched" by people taking part in a nationwide applause in his memory last night. the prime minister led the tributes to the ioo—year—old fundraiser who died with coronavirus on tuesday. a warning that this report from john maguire contains flash photography from the start. captain sir tom moore's home has seen some spine tingling moments in recent months.
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his 100th lap, his 100th birthday, and last night, his familyjoined the nation to applaud his extraordinary achievements. applause. staff at bedford hospital showed their appreciation for the man they said they'd been immensely privileged to care for in his last days. his name will always be synonymous with the nhs. at whiston hospital on merseyside, they described him as their hero. he touched people in every part of our society, and in cities across the uk they took a minute to say thank you.
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the captain tom train pulled into london's paddington station, as staff formed a guard of honour. so, how should he be more permanently remembered, the prime minister was asked at the downing street covid press conference? on the issue of a statue for captain tom moore, a public memorial of some kind to captain tom, i'm absolutely, of course, open to that. i know that everybody — that's the kind of thing that people would want to support, and we'll be working with his family to see what they feel is most appropriate, and be taking that forward. the six o'clock kick—off allowed for manchester city and burnley footballers tojoin in. one of his most cherished accolades was being named honorary colonel at the army foundation college in harrogate.
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and serving soldiers of the royal irish regiment honoured a former soldier in the loudest way they could. back in his home village in bedfordshire, the applause was not only for captain sir tom, but also the family that had supported him throughout his endeavours. he may be gone, but will never be forgotten. john maguire, bbc news, bedfordshire. it's lovely to see those scenes. and you know for sure that would have meant an enormous amount to the family. meant an enormous amount to the famil . ~ , ,., , , meant an enormous amount to the famil. , , family. absolutely. ten minutes past seven. family. absolutely. ten minutes past seven- there — family. absolutely. ten minutes past seven. there is _ family. absolutely. ten minutes past seven. there is snow _ family. absolutely. ten minutes past seven. there is snow forecast - family. absolutely. ten minutes past seven. there is snow forecast for i seven. there is snow forecast for all parts of the country in the coming days. carol, you are going to give us an in—depth look at that. but at the moment, the next couple of days, i think. good morning.
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of days, i think. good morninu. ., �*, of days, i think. good morninu. . �*, good morning. that's right. good morninu. good morning. that's right. good morning- it _ good morning. that's right. good morning- it is _ good morning. that's right. good morning. it is snowing _ good morning. that's right. good morning. it is snowing in - good morning. that's right. good i morning. it is snowing in aberdeen. for the next few days it will turn colder where it is mild and there is further snow. colder where it is mild and there is furthersnow. not colder where it is mild and there is further snow. not all of us will see it but many of us will. more than in the last week. today we have a band of rain, sleet and snow across northern ireland, northern and then in scotland. most of it is in the hills. increasingly particularly across northern scotland. some of it at lower levels blowing in the gusty winds. at the same time we have a band of showery rain pushing northwards across england and wales. in between something drier and a little bit brighter. still mild in the south. still cold in the north. through this evening and overnight, this band of showery rain, which could be heavy and thundery, becomes ensconced across north—east england, enhancing the risk of localised flooding. and the hill stop which is across scotland. again, some of this getting down to lower levels, with rain on the coast. the risk of ice in the north with some frost. still
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comparatively milder as we push down towards the south. it is from midnight tonight until six o'clock on saturday evening that the met office has a number weather warning in force for heavy snow for parts of scotland. not southern scotland, not part of west of scotland either. this has the potential to be quite impactful. we could have fresh snow, as much as 15 centimetres, about six inches, at lower levels. twice that much above 150 metres. one to watch. thank you. see you later. we've reported a lot recently on the impact of delayed medical appointments and treatments over the past year. the spirit of friendship is something that has kept a lot of patients going during the pandemic. breakfast�*s jayne mccubbin has the story of one woman, for whom the friendship of a stranger helped her cancer diagnosis been finding out. a warning that some viewers may find
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part of jayne's report upsetting. on february the 6th, 2020, mina was married. a month later she was due to have potentially life—saving surgery for pancreatic cancer. but this was the news on february the 6th. its, this was the news on february the 6th. �* , ,., ., , this was the news on february the 6th. , , 6th. a third person has tested ositive 6th. a third person has tested positive for — 6th. a third person has tested positive for coronavirus i 6th. a third person has tested positive for coronavirus in i 6th. a third person has tested positive for coronavirus in the | 6th. a third person has tested i positive for coronavirus in the uk. the virus had started to spread across the country and the impact on cancer services was devastating. everything was good to go and then coronavirus. everything was good to go and then coronavirus-— coronavirus. mina's surgery was cancelled- _ coronavirus. mina's surgery was cancelled. so _ coronavirus. mina's surgery was cancelled. so then _ coronavirus. mina's surgery was cancelled. so then when - coronavirus. mina's surgery was cancelled. so then when i i coronavirus. mina's surgery was cancelled. so then when i went| coronavirus. mina's surgery was i cancelled. so then when i went back in aril, cancelled. so then when i went back in april. the — cancelled. so then when i went back in april, the tumour _ cancelled. so then when i went back in april, the tumour started - cancelled. so then when i went back in april, the tumour started growing i in april, the tumour started growing and it— in april, the tumour started growing and it was— in april, the tumour started growing and it was too late to do the procedure any more.- and it was too late to do the procedure any more. mina speaks to me from her— procedure any more. mina speaks to me from her bed _ procedure any more. mina speaks to me from her bed at _ procedure any more. mina speaks to me from her bed at home, - procedure any more. mina speaks to me from her bed at home, where i procedure any more. mina speaks to| me from her bed at home, where her cancerjourney is near its end. but on world cancer day, she wants to give thanks. we can see how poorly you are. but you really want to chat
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about this, don't you?— about this, don't you? yes, please. yes, it's about this, don't you? yes, please. yes. it's so — about this, don't you? yes, please. yes, it's so important. _ about this, don't you? yes, please. yes, it's so important. why? i about this, don't you? yes, please. | yes, it's so important. why? people suffer— yes, it's so important. why? people suffer in— yes, it's so important. why? people suffer in silence. they don't know how much— suffer in silence. they don't know how much help there is. and what kind of— how much help there is. and what kind of help there is. in lockdown, facina a kind of help there is. in lockdown, facing a terminal— kind of help there is. in lockdown, facing a terminal diagnosis, i kind of help there is. in lockdown, facing a terminal diagnosis, she i facing a terminal diagnosis, she says her impossible situation was made bearable by one woman. a mcmillan volunteer called julie, who she has never met. but he was on the end of a phone when she needed her most. taste end of a phone when she needed her most. ~ ., ., , , . ., end of a phone when she needed her most. ., .., most. we found a special connection. and it was like. _ most. we found a special connection. and it was like, you _ most. we found a special connection. and it was like, you know _ most. we found a special connection. and it was like, you know when i most. we found a special connection. and it was like, you know when they. and it was like, you know when they say sometimes it was meant to be? it was meant _ say sometimes it was meant to be? it was meant to be.— was meant to be. when the pandemic force the closure _ was meant to be. when the pandemic force the closure of— was meant to be. when the pandemic force the closure of face-to-face i force the closure of face—to—face counselling, the charity launched a telephone body service, offering people like me in 12 weeks of hope and help on the phone, a chance to discuss things that might be too painful to discuss at home.
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basically, because my mum had passed in 2017 with cancer, i wanted to give something back.— in 2017 with cancer, i wanted to give something back. people keep sa inc give something back. people keep sa in: to give something back. people keep saying to you. _ give something back. people keep saying to you. be _ give something back. people keep saying to you, be strong, - give something back. people keep saying to you, be strong, you i give something back. people keep saying to you, be strong, you will| saying to you, be strong, you will fight _ saying to you, be strong, you will fight it _ saying to you, be strong, you will fight it you — saying to you, be strong, you will fight it. you will pull through it. through— fight it. you will pull through it. through a — fight it. you will pull through it. through a certain point it is fantastic _ through a certain point it is fantastic. but i have had enough, i have _ fantastic. but i have had enough, i have heard — fantastic. but i have had enough, i have heard enough. let me just feel how i_ have heard enough. let me just feel how i feet _ have heard enough. let me just feel how i feel. you now? you know, let me tell— how i feel. you now? you know, let me tell you — how i feel. you now? you know, let me tell you exactly howl how i feel. you now? you know, let me tell you exactly how i feel without — me tell you exactly how i feel without you telling me that i need to be _ without you telling me that i need to be strong. and she was there for that _ to be strong. and she was there for that and _ to be strong. and she was there for that and for— to be strong. and she was there for that. and for many other things. we laughed _ that. and for many other things. we laughed at— that. and for many other things. we laughed at so many things. i was i was looking forward to the friday calls _ was looking forward to the friday calls. ., , ~' was looking forward to the friday calls. ., , ~ ., calls. you must think of her, i ruess, calls. you must think of her, i guess. often? _ calls. you must think of her, i guess, often? oh, _ calls. you must think of her, i guess, often? oh, yeah, i calls. you must think of her, i i guess, often? oh, yeah, absolutely. untiltoda guess, often? oh, yeah, absolutely. until today i — guess, often? oh, yeah, absolutely. until today i didn't _ guess, often? oh, yeah, absolutely. until today i didn't know— guess, often? oh, yeah, absolutely. until today i didn't know what - guess, often? oh, yeah, absolutely. until today i didn't know what had i until today i didn't know what had happened since my last conversation with her. she
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happened since my last conversation with her. . , happened since my last conversation with her. ,, , ., , ., , with her. she is really, really, reall , with her. she is really, really, really. really _ with her. she is really, really, really, really poorly _ with her. she is really, really, really, really poorly at - with her. she is really, really, really, really poorly at the i with her. she is really, really, i really, really poorly at the moment. but he did record a message with me to give to you. can i show it to you? to give to you. can i show it to ou? ., �* to give to you. can i show it to ou? . �* ., ., , ., you? yeah, i'd love to see it. that would be brilliant. _ you? yeah, i'd love to see it. that would be brilliant. what _ you? yeah, i'd love to see it. that would be brilliant. what would i you? yeah, i'd love to see it. that| would be brilliant. what would you like to say to _ would be brilliant. what would you like to say to julie? _ would be brilliant. what would you like to say to julie? from - would be brilliant. what would you like to say to julie? from the i like to say to julie? from the bottom of— like to say to julie? from the bottom of my _ like to say to julie? from the bottom of my heart, - like to say to julie? from the bottom of my heart, julie, i like to say to julie? from the i bottom of my heart, julie, your bottom of my heart, julie, your kindness— bottom of my heart, julie, your kindness and your caring, and your onm _ kindness and your caring, and your onm your— kindness and your caring, and your joy... your way of seeing life, that carried _ joy... your way of seeing life, that carried me — joy... your way of seeing life, that carried me through. that carried me through _ carried me through. that carried me through. thank you. and i'm still today. _ through. thank you. and i'm still today, even— through. thank you. and i'm still today, even though we don't have the discussions. _ today, even though we don't have the discussions, they are with me. they are with _ discussions, they are with me. they are with me — discussions, they are with me. they are with me. but i can always remember— are with me. but i can always remember what we talked about and i'm so— remember what we talked about and i'm so happy to hear that she is doing _ i'm so happy to hear that she is doing welt _ i'm so happy to hear that she is doing well. it�*s i'm so happy to hear that she is doing well-—
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i'm so happy to hear that she is doinu well. i ., , ., ~ ., ., doing well. it's lovely to know that i've had that _ doing well. it's lovely to know that i've had that kind _ doing well. it's lovely to know that i've had that kind of— doing well. it's lovely to know that i've had that kind of impact - doing well. it's lovely to know that i've had that kind of impact on i i've had that kind of impact on somebody�*s lie. find i've had that kind of impact on somebody's lie.— i've had that kind of impact on somebody's lie. i've had that kind of impact on somebod 's lie. �* , a, a, somebody's lie. and she wanted other --eole somebody's lie. and she wanted other eo - le to somebody's lie. and she wanted other peeple to know _ somebody's lie. and she wanted other people to know that _ somebody's lie. and she wanted other people to know that even _ somebody's lie. and she wanted other people to know that even though - people to know that even though these times are really, really difficult, that there is support out there. ~ , ,., , difficult, that there is support out there. , g , difficult, that there is support out there. _ , ., there. absolutely. just ask. you know, there. absolutely. just ask. you know. you _ there. absolutely. just ask. you know, you look _ there. absolutely. just ask. you know, you look at _ there. absolutely. just ask. you know, you look at the _ there. absolutely. just ask. you know, you look at the new - there. absolutely. just ask. you - know, you look at the new sometimes and you can get the sort of drawn into the bad stuff and the depression and all the negative things. but at the end of the day everybody, i think, things. but at the end of the day everybody, ithink, wants things. but at the end of the day everybody, i think, wants to help everybody, i think, wants to help everybody else. there is not that many bad people in the world. mina wants to spread one last message, to encourage people to seek help, to ask for support and not to ignore symptoms. it’s help, to ask for support and not to ignore symptom-— ignore symptoms. it's so easy to --ostone ignore symptoms. it's so easy to postpone and — ignore symptoms. it's so easy to postpone and say. _ ignore symptoms. it's so easy to postpone and say, i'll _ ignore symptoms. it's so easy to postpone and say, i'll take - ignore symptoms. it's so easy to postpone and say, i'll take care | ignore symptoms. it's so easy to. postpone and say, i'll take care of that later~ —
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postpone and say, i'll take care of that later. seek for help. it is there — that later. seek for help. it is there. is— that later. seek for help. it is there. , ., , y., �* 4' there. is there a message you'd like to send back. _ there. is there a message you'd like to send back, julie? _ there. is there a message you'd like to send back, julie? this _ there. is there a message you'd like to send back, julie? this is - there. is there a message you'd like to send back, julie? this is it - there. is there a message you'd like to send back, julie? this is it so - to send back, julie? this is it so hard. to send back, julie? this is it so hard- yeah. _ to send back, julie? this is it so hard- yeah. i— to send back, julie? this is it so hard. yeah, ijust _ to send back, julie? this is it so hard. yeah, i just wanted - to send back, julie? this is it so hard. yeah, i just wanted to - to send back, julie? this is it so i hard. yeah, i just wanted to thank hard. yeah, ijust wanted to thank yourfor, for her hard. yeah, ijust wanted to thank your for, for her friendship and companionship over the three months that we were chatting. the human spirit is strong and we can rise up and we can deal with these things. and she taught me a lot of lessons about grabbing each day and making the most of it. the irony ofjulie saying thank you to mina, because sincejulie was the one who was the friend. that lovely thought that the human spirit is strong and, you know, there aren't that many bad people in the world. mina as well, thank you so much for talking to us and telling her story
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as well. this is what we have the privilege. as well. this is what we have the rivile . e. , as well. this is what we have the rivilere. , ., ,, , ., privilege. yes, it happens time and time again- — privilege. yes, it happens time and time again- i— privilege. yes, it happens time and time again. i love _ privilege. yes, it happens time and time again. i love the _ privilege. yes, it happens time and time again. i love the fact - privilege. yes, it happens time and time again. i love the fact that - privilege. yes, it happens time and time again. i love the fact that the | time again. i love the fact that the film finishes with that image of that smile and that happy moment in time, which is so very appropriate. we're joined now by two friends who know exactly how important friendship is when battling cancer. deborahjames and emma campbell. good morning to you both. good morning — good morning to you both. good morninu. , ., ., i. good morning to you both. good morninu. , ., ., ., ., morning. deborah, do you want to kick us off? _ morning. deborah, do you want to kick us off? i _ morning. deborah, do you want to kick us off? i know— morning. deborah, do you want to kick us off? i know you _ morning. deborah, do you want to kick us off? i know you are - morning. deborah, do you want to i kick us off? i know you are watching that as you were waiting for us to talk to you. that power of friendship, that understanding. like when mina said, just let me feel how ifeel, stop when mina said, just let me feel how i feel, stop telling when mina said, just let me feel how ifeel, stop telling me when mina said, just let me feel how i feel, stop telling me to when mina said, just let me feel how ifeel, stop telling me to be strong. it is finding the person who just gets you at that awful time? yes, i was nodding. that got me, that fitrn — yes, i was nodding. that got me, that fitrn it — yes, i was nodding. that got me, that film. it took me back to, unfortunately, having to say goodbye to some _ unfortunately, having to say goodbye to some of _ unfortunately, having to say goodbye to some of my friends who i've met during _
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to some of my friends who i've met during cancer. my dear friend rachel, — during cancer. my dear friend rachel, who i presented the podcast with. kelly, we talked about on bbc breakfast. — with. kelly, we talked about on bbc breakfast, who is in a similar situation _ breakfast, who is in a similar situation to mina and did get some treatment— situation to mina and did get some treatment she wanted during lockdown. and hearing those words realty _ lockdown. and hearing those words really took — lockdown. and hearing those words really took me back to those feelings— really took me back to those feelings of saying goodbye to people. it sounds really weird to say this, — people. it sounds really weird to say this, but even in those dark moments — say this, but even in those dark moments there is kind of laughter and there — moments there is kind of laughter and there is smiles and there is happiness, _ and there is smiles and there is happiness, but it's that understanding, it's that understanding, it's that understanding of somebody else at three _ understanding of somebody else at three o'clock in the morning, and that's— three o'clock in the morning, and that's why— three o'clock in the morning, and that's why we have got emma, who i know— that's why we have got emma, who i know we _ that's why we have got emma, who i know we are — that's why we have got emma, who i know we are going to speak to in a minute, _ know we are going to speak to in a minute, you — know we are going to speak to in a minute, you just want to pick up the font to _ minute, you just want to pick up the font to somebody and say, you get it, font to somebody and say, you get it. and _ font to somebody and say, you get it, and they— font to somebody and say, you get it, and they do, they get it because they have _ it, and they do, they get it because they have been there themselves. emma, _ they have been there themselves. emma, you have been introduced. good morning. can you chart a little bit for us yourfriendship, morning. can you chart a little bit for us your friendship, the two of
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you? for us your friendship, the two of ou? ,, , ,., ., for us your friendship, the two of ou? ,, , ., ., for us your friendship, the two of ou? ,, , ,., ., ., ., you? sure. deborah and i met four ears aro you? sure. deborah and i met four years ago at— you? sure. deborah and i met four years ago at a _ you? sure. deborah and i met four years ago at a stand _ you? sure. deborah and i met four years ago at a stand up _ you? sure. deborah and i met four years ago at a stand up to - you? sure. deborah and i met four years ago at a stand up to cancer. years ago at a stand up to cancer campaign_ years ago at a stand up to cancer campaignwe— years ago at a stand up to cancer campaign we were _ years ago at a stand up to cancer campaign we were involved - years ago at a stand up to cancer campaign we were involved in. i years ago at a stand up to cancer. campaign we were involved in. her diagnosis _ campaign we were involved in. her diagnosis was _ campaign we were involved in. her diagnosis was fairly— campaign we were involved in. her diagnosis was fairly recent - campaign we were involved in. her diagnosis was fairly recent at - campaign we were involved in. her diagnosis was fairly recent at that. diagnosis was fairly recent at that point _ diagnosis was fairly recent at that point i_ diagnosis was fairly recent at that point i was— diagnosis was fairly recent at that point. i was sort— diagnosis was fairly recent at that point. i was sort of— diagnosis was fairly recent at that point. i was sort of five _ diagnosis was fairly recent at that point. i was sort of five years - diagnosis was fairly recent at that point. i was sort of five years into mine _ point. i was sort of five years into mine i_ point. i was sort of five years into mine i was — point. i was sort of five years into mine. i was first— point. i was sort of five years into mine. i was first diagnosed - point. i was sort of five years into mine. i was first diagnosed 11- point. i was sort of five years into i mine. i was first diagnosed 11 years a-o. mine. i was first diagnosed 11 years ago and _ mine. i was first diagnosed 11 years ago and from _ mine. i was first diagnosed 11 years ago. and from then, _ mine. i was first diagnosed 11 years ago. and from then, and _ mine. i was first diagnosed 11 years ago. and from then, and via - mine. i was first diagnosed 11 years ago. and from then, and via sociall ago. and from then, and via social media, _ ago. and from then, and via social media, we — ago. and from then, and via social media, we kind _ ago. and from then, and via social media, we kind of— ago. and from then, and via social media, we kind of obviously- ago. and from then, and via sociall media, we kind of obviously stayed in touch— media, we kind of obviously stayed in touch and — media, we kind of obviously stayed in touch and connected. _ media, we kind of obviously stayed in touch and connected. our - in touch and connected. our friendship— in touch and connected. our friendship has— in touch and connected. our friendship has become - in touch and connected. our - friendship has become something really— friendship has become something really solid — friendship has become something really solid and _ friendship has become something really solid and something - friendship has become something really solid and something that i i really solid and something that i certainly— really solid and something that i certainly rely _ really solid and something that i certainly rely on. _ really solid and something that i certainly rely on. she _ really solid and something that i certainly rely on. she is - really solid and something that i certainly rely on. she is a - really solid and something that i certainly rely on. she is a voice. really solid and something that i . certainly rely on. she is a voice of incredible — certainly rely on. she is a voice of incredible sort— certainly rely on. she is a voice of incredible sort of— certainly rely on. she is a voice of incredible sort of honesty- certainly rely on. she is a voice of incredible sort of honesty and - incredible sort of honesty and courage. _ incredible sort of honesty and courage. an— incredible sort of honesty and courage, an example - incredible sort of honesty and courage, an example to- incredible sort of honesty and courage, an example to so. incredible sort of honesty and - courage, an example to so many. but also courage, an example to so many. but atsojust— courage, an example to so many. but atsojust on— courage, an example to so many. but also just on a _ courage, an example to so many. but also just on a personal _ courage, an example to so many. but also just on a personal friendship - also just on a personal friendship level. _ also just on a personal friendship level. she — also just on a personal friendship level. she has _ also just on a personal friendship level, she has been _ also just on a personal friendship level, she has been there - also just on a personal friendship level, she has been there for- also just on a personal friendship level, she has been there for mej also just on a personal friendship . level, she has been there for me in so many— level, she has been there for me in so many moments. _ level, she has been there for me in so many moments, not _ level, she has been there for me in so many moments, not least - level, she has been there for me in so many moments, not least of - level, she has been there for me in so many moments, not least of alll level, she has been there for me in l so many moments, not least of all at three _ so many moments, not least of all at three o'clock— so many moments, not least of all at three o'clock in — so many moments, not least of all at three o'clock in the _ so many moments, not least of all at three o'clock in the morning - so many moments, not least of all at three o'clock in the morning when - three o'clock in the morning when neither— three o'clock in the morning when neither of— three o'clock in the morning when neither of us— three o'clock in the morning when neither of us could _ three o'clock in the morning when neither of us could sleep - three o'clock in the morning when neither of us could sleep the - three o'clock in the morning whenl neither of us could sleep the other day and _ neither of us could sleep the other day and we — neither of us could sleep the other day and we found _ neither of us could sleep the other day and we found ourselves - neither of us could sleep the other. day and we found ourselves chatting ontine _ day and we found ourselves chatting online randomly. _ day and we found ourselves chatting online randomly. it _ day and we found ourselves chatting online randomly. it is _ day and we found ourselves chatting online randomly. it is all— day and we found ourselves chatting online randomly. it is all about- online randomly. it is all about connection, _ online randomly. it is all about connection, isn't— online randomly. it is all about connection, isn't it? _ online randomly. it is all about connection, isn't it? i- online randomly. it is all about connection, isn't it? ithink- online randomly. it is all about. connection, isn't it? i think world cancer— connection, isn't it? i think world cancer day, — connection, isn't it? i think world cancer day, its _ connection, isn't it? i think world cancer day, its connection, -
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connection, isn't it? i think world cancer day, its connection, its . cancer day, its connection, its unity— cancer day, its connection, its unity and _ cancer day, its connection, its unity and its— cancer day, its connection, its unity and it'sjust, _ cancer day, its connection, its unity and it's just, it _ cancer day, its connection, its unity and it'sjust, it is- cancer day, its connection, its unity and it's just, it is the - unity and it'sjust, it is the shared _ unity and it'sjust, it is the shared language, - unity and it'sjust, it is the shared language, i- unity and it'sjust, it is the shared language, i think. unity and it's just, it is the i shared language, i think that whatever— shared language, i think that whatever stage _ shared language, i think that whatever stage you - shared language, i think that whatever stage you are - shared language, i think that whatever stage you are at. shared language, i think that. whatever stage you are at had shared language, i think that- whatever stage you are at had your cancer _ whatever stage you are at had your cancerjourney, _ whatever stage you are at had your cancerjourney, there _ whatever stage you are at had your cancerjourney, there is— whatever stage you are at had your cancerjourney, there is a - whatever stage you are at had your cancerjourney, there is a shared, i cancerjourney, there is a shared, unspoken— cancerjourney, there is a shared, unspoken knowledge _ cancerjourney, there is a shared, unspoken knowledge and - cancerjourney, there is a shared, - unspoken knowledge and understanding of what _ unspoken knowledge and understanding of what we _ unspoken knowledge and understanding of what we are _ unspoken knowledge and understanding of what we are all— unspoken knowledge and understanding of what we are all going _ unspoken knowledge and understanding of what we are all going through - unspoken knowledge and understanding of what we are all going through and - of what we are all going through and expensing _ of what we are all going through and ex-uensin. ., of what we are all going through and ex-uensin. . .,, ,., of what we are all going through and ex-uensin. . .,, y., ., of what we are all going through and ex-uensin. . ., expensing. emma, as you are saying that, it is expensing. emma, as you are saying that. it is so — expensing. emma, as you are saying that, it is so lovely _ expensing. emma, as you are saying that, it is so lovely hearing _ expensing. emma, as you are saying that, it is so lovely hearing both - that, it is so lovely hearing both of you talk about each other. it is lovely. what you will be aware of, of course, and one of the point of this campaign is, there are people who are in similar circumstances who are having to deal with extraordinarily difficult things that don't have those relationships you are talking about. that is the real worry, you are talking about. that is the realworry, isn't you are talking about. that is the real worry, isn't it? you are talking about. that is the realworry, isn't it?— real worry, isn't it? absolutely. for me, real worry, isn't it? absolutely. for me. and — real worry, isn't it? absolutely. for me. and i _ real worry, isn't it? absolutely. for me, and i have _ real worry, isn't it? absolutely. for me, and i have said - real worry, isn't it? absolutely. for me, and i have said this - real worry, isn't it? absolutely. for me, and i have said this a l realworry, isn't it? absolutely. i for me, and i have said this a lot, the connections _ for me, and i have said this a lot, the connections i've _ for me, and i have said this a lot, the connections i've made - for me, and i have said this a lot, the connections i've made over. for me, and i have said this a lot, l the connections i've made over the last couple — the connections i've made over the last couple of— the connections i've made over the last couple of years _ the connections i've made over the last couple of years are _ the connections i've made over the last couple of years are what - the connections i've made over the last couple of years are what i- the connections i've made over the| last couple of years are what i have helped _ last couple of years are what i have helped me — last couple of years are what i have helped me so — last couple of years are what i have helped me so much _ last couple of years are what i have helped me so much on _ last couple of years are what i have helped me so much on my- last couple of years are what i have helped me so much on myjourney. five to _ helped me so much on myjourney. five to ten — helped me so much on myjourney. five to ten years _ helped me so much on myjourney. five to ten years ago _ helped me so much on myjourney. five to ten years ago i— helped me so much on myjourney. five to ten years ago i felt - five to ten years ago i felt incredible _ five to ten years ago i felt incredible isolation- five to ten years ago i felt. incredible isolation because five to ten years ago i felt i incredible isolation because i five to ten years ago i felt - incredible isolation because i had no access— incredible isolation because i had no access to _ incredible isolation because i had no access to the _ incredible isolation because i had no access to the real—life - incredible isolation because i had no access to the real—life cancer. no access to the real—life cancer community _ no access to the real—life cancer community i_ no access to the real—life cancer community. i chose _ no access to the real—life cancer community. i chose not - no access to the real—life cancer community. i chose not to- no access to the real—life cancer community. i chose not to stepl no access to the real—life cancer- community. i chose not to step into it. community. i chose not to step into it it _ community. i chose not to step into it it has _ community. i chose not to step into it it has been — community. i chose not to step into it. it has been transformative -
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community. i chose not to step into it. it has been transformative to - community. i chose not to step intoj it. it has been transformative to me to know _ it. it has been transformative to me to know that — it. it has been transformative to me to know that just _ it. it has been transformative to me to know that just by _ it. it has been transformative to me to know that just by picking - it. it has been transformative to me to know thatjust by picking up- it. it has been transformative to me to know thatjust by picking up my. to know thatjust by picking up my phone _ to know thatjust by picking up my phone i_ to know thatjust by picking up my phone i can — to know thatjust by picking up my phone i can connect _ to know thatjust by picking up my phone i can connect in _ to know thatjust by picking up my phone i can connect in that- to know thatjust by picking up my phone i can connect in that way. l to know thatjust by picking up my. phone i can connect in that way. the idea of— phone i can connect in that way. the idea of anyone — phone i can connect in that way. the idea of anyone suffering _ phone i can connect in that way. the idea of anyone suffering alone - phone i can connect in that way. the idea of anyone suffering alone in- idea of anyone suffering alone in the wee — idea of anyone suffering alone in the wee small— idea of anyone suffering alone in the wee small hours, _ idea of anyone suffering alone in the wee small hours, or- idea of anyone suffering alone in the wee small hours, or in- idea of anyone suffering alone in the wee small hours, or in a - the wee small hours, or in a hospital— the wee small hours, or in a hospital chair, _ the wee small hours, or in a hospital chair, it _ the wee small hours, or in a hospital chair, it is - the wee small hours, or in a hospital chair, it is so - hospital chair, it is so devastating, - hospital chair, it is so . devastating, particularly hospital chair, it is so - devastating, particularly at this time _ devastating, particularly at this time when _ devastating, particularly at this time when so _ devastating, particularly at this time when so much _ devastating, particularly at this time when so much treatment. devastating, particularly at this. time when so much treatment is devastating, particularly at this - time when so much treatment is being undertaken _ time when so much treatment is being undertaken. . . ., , ., �* undertaken. emma, i certainly don't want this interview _ undertaken. emma, i certainly don't want this interview to _ undertaken. emma, i certainly don't want this interview to happen - want this interview to happen without actually knowing what has happened to you. you are diagnosed with breast cancer in 2010. and at that time you were a single mum with triplets, six—year—old triplets. six—month—old. and a six—year—old. i had a _ six—month—old. and a six—year—old. i had a vasectomy— six—month—old. and a six—year—old. i had a vasectomy and _ six—month—old. and a six—year—old. i had a vasectomy and the _ six—month—old. and a six—year—old. i had a vasectomy and the full- six—month—old. and a six—year—old. i had a vasectomy and the full works. i had a vasectomy and the full works. i physically— had a vasectomy and the full works. i physically did — had a vasectomy and the full works. i physically did very _ had a vasectomy and the full works. i physically did very well. _ i physically did very well. emotionally, _ i physically did very well. emotionally, it— i physically did very well. emotionally, it was - i physically did very well. j emotionally, it was much i physically did very well. - emotionally, it was much harder. then— emotionally, it was much harder. then i_ emotionally, it was much harder. then i found _ emotionally, it was much harder. then i found myself _ emotionally, it was much harder. then i found myself in _ emotionally, it was much harder. then i found myself in the - emotionally, it was much harder. - then i found myself in the secondary breast _ then i found myself in the secondary breast cancer— then i found myself in the secondary breast cancer category— then i found myself in the secondary breast cancer category six _ then i found myself in the secondary breast cancer category six years - breast cancer category six years ago _ breast cancer category six years ago and — breast cancer category six years ago and then— breast cancer category six years ago. and then had _ breast cancer category six years ago. and then had further- breast cancer category six years - ago. and then had further recurrence two years— ago. and then had further recurrence two years ago — ago. and then had further recurrence
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two years ago like _ ago. and then had further recurrence two years ago. like deborah, - ago. and then had further recurrence two years ago. like deborah, i- ago. and then had further recurrence two years ago. like deborah, i am i two years ago. like deborah, i am having _ two years ago. like deborah, i am having regular— two years ago. like deborah, i am having regular chemo, _ two years ago. like deborah, i am having regular chemo, regular- two years ago. like deborah, i am l having regular chemo, regular scans and i— having regular chemo, regular scans and i am _ having regular chemo, regular scans and i am doing— having regular chemo, regular scans and i am doing well. _ having regular chemo, regular scans and i am doing well. but _ having regular chemo, regular scans and i am doing well. but so - having regular chemo, regular scans and i am doing well. but so much i having regular chemo, regular scans and i am doing well. but so much ofj and i am doing well. but so much of it is and i am doing well. but so much of it is the _ and i am doing well. but so much of it is the emotional— and i am doing well. but so much of it is the emotional side, _ and i am doing well. but so much of it is the emotional side, the - it is the emotional side, the emotional— it is the emotional side, the emotional impact— it is the emotional side, the emotional impact of- it is the emotional side, the emotional impact of cancer. it is the emotional side, the - emotional impact of cancer. we can recover, _ emotional impact of cancer. we can recover, we — emotional impact of cancer. we can recover, we can— emotional impact of cancer. we can recover, we can be _ emotional impact of cancer. we can recover, we can be physically- recover, we can be physically resilient _ recover, we can be physically resilient. but— recover, we can be physically resilient. but it _ recover, we can be physically resilient. but it is _ recover, we can be physically resilient. but it is all- recover, we can be physically resilient. but it is all about. recover, we can be physically. resilient. but it is all about what goes _ resilient. but it is all about what goes on — resilient. but it is all about what goes on up _ resilient. but it is all about what goes on up here— resilient. but it is all about what goes on up here and _ resilient. but it is all about what goes on up here and that - resilient. but it is all about what goes on up here and that is - resilient. but it is all about what goes on up here and that is why| goes on up here and that is why these _ goes on up here and that is why these conversations— goes on up here and that is why these conversations are - goes on up here and that is why these conversations are so - these conversations are so important _ these conversations are so important-— these conversations are so important. these conversations are so imortant. �* , ., ., important. and deborah, as emma sa s, ou important. and deborah, as emma says. you can _ important. and deborah, as emma says. you can be — important. and deborah, as emma says, you can be physically - says, you can be physically resilient. didn't you both run the london marathon?— resilient. didn't you both run the london marathon? yeah, we did. almost within _ london marathon? yeah, we did. almost within the _ london marathon? yeah, we did. almost within the same - london marathon? yeah, we did. almost within the same week - london marathon? yeah, we did. almost within the same week we | london marathon? yeah, we did. - almost within the same week we had treatment— almost within the same week we had treatment together at the royal marsden, where we were both patients, _ marsden, where we were both patients, followed by then running the london marathon together. i think— the london marathon together. i think we — the london marathon together. i think we both kinda wanted to celebrate just being alive, actually. and our friendship. and everybody— actually. and our friendship. and everybody that supports us. it is kind of— everybody that supports us. it is kind of that of coming together. i know _ kind of that of coming together. i know especially when i was diagnosed, like emma, you feel alone _ diagnosed, like emma, you feel alone you _ diagnosed, like emma, you feel alone, you feel like you were the only person that has been given this diagnosis _ only person that has been given this diagnosis. you feel like life is a little _
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diagnosis. you feel like life is a little bit — diagnosis. you feel like life is a little bit unfair. we have to remember that actually won in two of us will— remember that actually won in two of us will get _ remember that actually won in two of us will get cancer. but in that moment, _ us will get cancer. but in that moment, i— us will get cancer. but in that moment, i suppose, you feel like you are the _ moment, i suppose, you feel like you are the only— moment, i suppose, you feel like you are the only one that understands how you _ are the only one that understands how you feel. and it's exactly what mina _ how you feel. and it's exactly what mina was _ how you feel. and it's exactly what mina was saying on the film. you 'ust mina was saying on the film. you just want— mina was saying on the film. you just want to feel the way that you feet _ just want to feel the way that you feel. sometimes you want to address conversations that nobody else wants to talk— conversations that nobody else wants to talk about. they're very honest and frank — to talk about. they're very honest and frank conversations. it might be about— and frank conversations. it might be about debt — and frank conversations. it might be about debt. it might be about what happens _ about debt. it might be about what happens if— about debt. it might be about what happens if you want there. and actually. — happens if you want there. and actually, you need to people to engage — actually, you need to people to engage in those conversations sometimes, just to kind of allow you to sit— sometimes, just to kind of allow you to sit with _ sometimes, just to kind of allow you to sit with those feelings that you have _ to sit with those feelings that you have. sometimes you need people to celebrate _ have. sometimes you need people to celebrate with and take on mad challenges, that is where myself and emma's_ challenges, that is where myself and emma's friendship comes in and we kind of— emma's friendship comes in and we kind of say. — emma's friendship comes in and we kind of say, why not, why not celebrate _ kind of say, why not, why not celebrate and run a marathon? we are going _ celebrate and run a marathon? we are going to _ celebrate and run a marathon? we are going to do _ celebrate and run a marathon? we are going to do the same again this year~ _ going to do the same again this ear. . , going to do the same again this ear, ., , ., ., , year. that is amazing in itself. emma, year. that is amazing in itself. emma. a _ year. that is amazing in itself. emma, a final— year. that is amazing in itself. emma, a final thought. - year. that is amazing in itself. emma, a final thought. it's . year. that is amazing in itself. i emma, a final thought. it's quite easy to see from the outside, and people hear it in both of you how great it is, you are both going
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through something and you have that common bond. for those outside, it could be a family member, could be friends, don't know how to talk in the same way because you don't have that reference point, because you are not going through it. have you got advice for people? in the piece mina said, people who say things like he mina said, people who say things like be strong, those kind of things that people slip into saying, they mean well but maybe a dozen, had the right way because you don't understand?— right way because you don't understand? ~ , ,., , ~ understand? absolutely. i think that's again. — understand? absolutely. i think that's again, families, - understand? absolutely. i think that's again, families, loved - understand? absolutely. i think. that's again, families, loved ones mean _ that's again, families, loved ones mean welt, — that's again, families, loved ones mean well, but _ that's again, families, loved ones mean well, but it's _ that's again, families, loved ones mean well, but it's so _ that's again, families, loved ones mean well, but it's so hard - that's again, families, loved ones mean well, but it's so hard for. that's again, families, loved ones. mean well, but it's so hard for them to see _ mean well, but it's so hard for them to see what — mean well, but it's so hard for them to see what we _ mean well, but it's so hard for them to see what we are _ mean well, but it's so hard for them to see what we are going _ mean well, but it's so hard for them to see what we are going through. i to see what we are going through. that sometimes— to see what we are going through. that sometimes you _ to see what we are going through. that sometimes you need - to see what we are going through. that sometimes you need the - to see what we are going through. - that sometimes you need the distance of a friend _ that sometimes you need the distance of a friend who — that sometimes you need the distance of a friend who is _ that sometimes you need the distance of a friend who is not _ that sometimes you need the distance of a friend who is not as _ of a friend who is not as emotionally— of a friend who is not as emotionally involved, . of a friend who is not as . emotionally involved, who of a friend who is not as - emotionally involved, who can let you. _ emotionally involved, who can let you. you — emotionally involved, who can let you. you know. _ emotionally involved, who can let you. you know. he _ emotionally involved, who can let you, you know, he just _ emotionally involved, who can let i you, you know, he just understands. ithink— you, you know, he just understands. i think it _ you, you know, he just understands. i think it is _ you, you know, he just understands. ithink it isiust— you, you know, he just understands. i think it is just those _ you, you know, he just understands. i think it isjust those tiny, _ you, you know, he just understands. i think it isjust those tiny, tiny- i think it isjust those tiny, tiny connections _ i think it isjust those tiny, tiny connections. for— i think it isjust those tiny, tiny connections. for me _ i think it isjust those tiny, tiny connections. for me it - i think it isjust those tiny, tiny connections. for me it came i i think it isjust those tiny, tiny- connections. for me it came about online _ connections. for me it came about online because _ connections. for me it came about online because i— connections. for me it came about online because i didn't— connections. for me it came about online because i didn't feel- online because i didn't feel mentally— online because i didn't feel mentally and _ online because i didn't feel mentally and emotionally. online because i didn't feel- mentally and emotionally strong enough — mentally and emotionally strong enough to— mentally and emotionally strong enough to step _ mentally and emotionally strong enough to step into— mentally and emotionally strong enough to step into a _ mentally and emotionally strong enough to step into a physical. mentally and emotionally strong . enough to step into a physical kind of support— enough to step into a physical kind of support centre _ enough to step into a physical kind of support centre because - enough to step into a physical kind of support centre because i- enough to step into a physical kind
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of support centre because i was i enough to step into a physical kind of support centre because i was so scared _ of support centre because i was so scared where _ of support centre because i was so scared. where is _ of support centre because i was so scared. where is my— of support centre because i was so scared. where is my sort- of support centre because i was so scared. where is my sort of- scared. where is my sort of tentative _ scared. where is my sort of tentative tip— scared. where is my sort of tentative tip toes _ scared. where is my sort of tentative tip toes into - scared. where is my sort of| tentative tip toes into social scared. where is my sort of- tentative tip toes into social media led tentative tip toes into social media ted to— tentative tip toes into social media ted to this — tentative tip toes into social media ted to this i— tentative tip toes into social media led to this. i can _ tentative tip toes into social media led to this. i can dip— tentative tip toes into social media led to this. i can dip in— tentative tip toes into social media led to this. i can dip in and - tentative tip toes into social media led to this. i can dip in and out. i led to this. i can dip in and out. it is— led to this. i can dip in and out. it is on— led to this. i can dip in and out. it is on my— led to this. i can dip in and out. it is on my terms. _ led to this. i can dip in and out. it is on my terms. just - led to this. i can dip in and out. . it is on my terms. just observing other— it is on my terms. just observing other people's _ it is on my terms. just observing other people's coping _ it is on my terms. just observing i other people's coping mechanisms. when _ other people's coping mechanisms. when you _ other people's coping mechanisms. when you are — other people's coping mechanisms. when you are ready, _ other people's coping mechanisms. when you are ready, it _ other people's coping mechanisms. when you are ready, it is _ other people's coping mechanisms. when you are ready, it is all- other people's coping mechanisms. when you are ready, it is all about. when you are ready, it is all about when _ when you are ready, it is all about when you — when you are ready, it is all about when you are _ when you are ready, it is all about when you are ready— when you are ready, it is all about when you are ready on _ when you are ready, it is all about when you are ready on your - when you are ready, it is all about . when you are ready on yourjourney, you can't— when you are ready on yourjourney, you can't get— when you are ready on yourjourney, you can't get there _ when you are ready on yourjourney, you can't get there before _ when you are ready on yourjourney, you can't get there before you - when you are ready on yourjourney, you can't get there before you were. you can't get there before you were there _ you can't get there before you were there when — you can't get there before you were there when you _ you can't get there before you were there. when you are _ you can't get there before you were there. when you are ready, - you can't get there before you were i there. when you are ready, whatever tiny there. when you are ready, whatever tiny steps— there. when you are ready, whatever tiny steps to — there. when you are ready, whatever tiny steps to just _ there. when you are ready, whatever tiny steps to just say, _ there. when you are ready, whatever tiny steps to just say, i— there. when you are ready, whatever tiny steps to just say, i am _ there. when you are ready, whatever tiny steps tojust say, i am here - tiny steps tojust say, i am here and i— tiny steps tojust say, i am here and i want — tiny steps tojust say, i am here and i want to— tiny steps tojust say, i am here and i want to talk. _ tiny steps tojust say, i am here and i want to talk. for- tiny steps tojust say, i am here and i want to talk. for our- tiny steps tojust say, i am here j and i want to talk. for our loved ones _ and i want to talk. for our loved ones to— and i want to talk. for our loved ones to understand _ and i want to talk. for our loved ones to understand they- and i want to talk. for our loved ones to understand they will. and i want to talk. for our lovedj ones to understand they will not always _ ones to understand they will not always say— ones to understand they will not always say the _ ones to understand they will not always say the right _ ones to understand they will not always say the right thing. - ones to understand they will not always say the right thing. we . ones to understand they will not. always say the right thing. we don't always— always say the right thing. we don't always know— always say the right thing. we don't always know what _ always say the right thing. we don't always know what to _ always say the right thing. we don't always know what to say— always say the right thing. we don't always know what to say to - always say the right thing. we don't always know what to say to each - always know what to say to each other— always know what to say to each other stiit~ — always know what to say to each other still. we _ always know what to say to each other still. we are _ always know what to say to each other still. we are all— always know what to say to each other still. we are all in- always know what to say to each other still. we are all in such - other still. we are all in such different— other still. we are all in such different places _ other still. we are all in such different places on _ other still. we are all in such different places on our- other still. we are all in such . different places on ourjourney. other still. we are all in such - different places on ourjourney. it is different places on ourjourney. it is realty. — different places on ourjourney. it is really. really— different places on ourjourney. it is really, really hard. _ different places on ourjourney. it is really, really hard. but- different places on ourjourney. it is really, really hard. but you - is really, really hard. but you can't — is really, really hard. but you can't get _ is really, really hard. but you can't get it _ is really, really hard. but you can't get it wrong _ is really, really hard. but you can't get it wrong if— is really, really hard. but you can't get it wrong if you're i is really, really hard. but you . can't get it wrong if you're from is really, really hard. but you - can't get it wrong if you're from an open _ can't get it wrong if you're from an open hearted _ can't get it wrong if you're from an open hearted and, _ can't get it wrong if you're from an open hearted and, you _ can't get it wrong if you're from an open hearted and, you know, - open hearted and, you know, compassion— open hearted and, you know, compassion applies. - open hearted and, you know, compassion applies. it - open hearted and, you know, compassion applies. it is - open hearted and, you know, - compassion applies. it is listening at the _ compassion applies. it is listening at the end — compassion applies. it is listening at the end of— compassion applies. it is listening at the end of the _ compassion applies. it is listening at the end of the day. _ compassion applies. it is listening at the end of the day.— compassion applies. it is listening at the end of the day. well, both of ou, i at the end of the day. well, both of you. i wish — at the end of the day. well, both of you. i wish you _ at the end of the day. well, both of you, i wish you both _ at the end of the day. well, both of you, i wish you both well. - at the end of the day. well, both of you, i wish you both well. i - at the end of the day. well, both of you, i wish you both well. i know. you, i wish you both well. i know you, i wish you both well. i know you are both still undergoing treatment. what you have got each other. lots of love around you as well. that's great. enjoy those three o'clock in the morning conversations. they are probably the best ones, actually. you put the
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world to rights in those conversations. deborahjames and conversations. deborah james and emma conversations. deborahjames and emma campbell. thank you. take care. very moving. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm sonja jessup. an inquiry into the crossrail project warns that a "forensic focus" will be needed it it's to be completed within its revised budget and timescale. the new railway is already more than two years late, and set to cost £4 billion more than the original plan. the london assembly transport committee has urged transport for london and the mayor to make sure past mistakes are not repeated. crystal palace football club is opening up to the public again, but as one of the latest nhs vaccination sites. the club's donated selhurst park in south east london to the nhs. the glaziers lounge in the main stand has been adapted to accommodate nhs staff, volunteers and local residents getting their vaccination.
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as londoners continue life under a third lockdown, it's particularly hard for those who are more vulnerable to coronavirus. people like mark webb, who's had to shield because he has ms. he had this advice for anyone struggling in a simialr position. i think the most important thing is to look at yourself as much as look at others. are you all right really? are you doing enough to look after yourself? are you stepping away from work? because at the moment your commute might be from bed to table, and that is never healthy in the long term. and are you doing something outside of work? let's take a look at the travel situation now. 0n the tube, the hammersmith and city line has minor delays. it's after a number of trains have been cancelled. that's hitting in the service. this is how it looks in new southgate, westbound traffic is slow on the north circular
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from the a10 great cambridge interchange in edmonton towards bounds green road for works. 0n the m25, it'd slow heading southbound on the qe2 bridge following an accidentjust before jucntion 1a for dartford. in bexleyheath, the a2 east rochester way is queueing westbound towards the works at the danson interchange, with delays back towards hall place good morning. we start this morning with temperatures in low single figures, a dry one with some mist and murk around, and the odd mist and fog patch. it is a dry start to the day with some sunshine early on. later we see cloud moving in and some showery rain from the south and west, which could be heavy at times, with some hail and thunder mixed in. but temperatures above average. we keep the rain pulsing for a time through tonight, but it does clear away into the early hours of tomorrow morning. not too chilly a start tomorrow morning having had a early overnight rain. we go through the day tomorrow with dry weather, temperatures above par for the time
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of year, but the big story is the temperatures are really falling away, with some very, very cold weather moving in through the weekend, and particularly noticeable from sunday. with that we will have potentially some disruptive snow at times, lasting into next week. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in an hour. now though it's back to naga and charlie. bye for now. hello. this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. trials have been launched in the uk to find out if giving people different covid vaccines for their first and second jabs the for their first and second jabs latest attempt is whs different the latest attempt is whether to use different vaccines for the first or second dose helps the body defend better against covert 19. so,
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second dose helps the body defend betteragainst covert19. so, can second dose helps the body defend better against covert 19. so, can we pick up on the idea that the different vaccines products, different vaccines products, different vaccines products, different vaccines can be used for the first and second administered dose, so can you explain the thinking behind that? absolutely. this is a study — thinking behind that? absolutely. this is a study that _ thinking behind that? absolutely. this is a study that we _ thinking behind that? absolutely. this is a study that we have - thinking behind that? absolutely. . this is a study that we have funded through the vaccine task force to the tune of £7 million to look at the tune of £7 million to look at the effect of using two different vaccines together and it's something that it vaccines together and it's something thatitis vaccines together and it's something that it is done historically with vaccines for hepatitis for children's vaccines for polio, measles mumps at rubella and will hopefully and will push the uk to the forefront into the forefront of covid—19 and we are proud of the record on the vaccines task force on the deployment programme, but this is another part of the armoury and it's very important for the viewers
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to know that it will not impact the deployment, so if you has a pfizer vaccine as your first dose, you will get that for the second dose and the oxford astrazeneca vaccine, you would have that is your second dose. what is the timeline for that potentially changing? that what is the timeline for that potentially changing? that will not chan . e potentially changing? that will not chance and potentially changing? that will not change and this _ potentially changing? that will not change and this test _ potentially changing? that will not change and this test will _ potentially changing? that will not change and this test will look - potentially changing? that will not change and this test will look at i change and this test will look at 800 patients were part of the programme and they will not report until the summer and we will look at the data when it comes through as to whether we change anything, but at the moment we are not change anything at all, but it's really important and worth reminding ourselves that we will vaccinate the uk adult population as fast as we can and we are aiming to do the top four cohorts, the most vulnerable, by mid february but no one is safe until the whole world is safe, which is why it's important we continue to research and look at ways in how we
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can vaccinate vast amounts of the population of the world as quickly as possible. population of the world as quickly as possible-— as possible. looking at that, you have the programme _ as possible. looking at that, you have the programme laid - as possible. looking at that, you have the programme laid out - as possible. looking at that, you have the programme laid out by| as possible. looking at that, you i have the programme laid out by the committee, but are you confident 15 million vaccines in the top four groups will be met by the 15th of february? groups will be met by the 15th of februa ? , . groups will be met by the 15th of february?_ so - groups will be met by the 15th of february?_ so if - groups will be met by the 15th of february?_ so if that i groups will be met by the 15th of| february?_ so if that is february? yes, i am. so if that is met, february? yes, i am. so if that is met. there _ february? yes, i am. so if that is met, there will _ february? yes, i am. so if that is met, there will be _ february? yes, i am. so if that is met, there will be an _ february? yes, i am. so if that is i met, there will be an announcement on the second phase of vaccination and those people who are prioritised. of course we know there are groups between five and nine, but there are calls for other groups to be included in that and can you tell us which group should be included? i'm talking about vulnerable children under the age of 16, teachers and otherfront line workers, so at this moment in time, which groups are you looking at and are under consideration? just to be clear, the top four is only part of phase one, so then we go on 256,78
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and nine and complete phase one and then we go back to thejcvi and ask them to look at, for example, key workers. ~ , ., workers. the prime minister talks in the ress workers. the prime minister talks in the press conference _ workers. the prime minister talks in the press conference about - workers. the prime minister talks in the press conference about teachers and the police and police women and shop workers who through their profession who will come into contact with the virus in greater volumes and we want them to look at that and advise us as to what we do. many who are clinically vulnerable will have been picked up in phase one anyway because that includes those that their gps feel should be prioritised, so a lot of the key workers will be picked up in the groups one up to nine where we are focused on delivering in phase one. it's interesting you phase that out —— pick that out, that the first four phases are not, or the first four phases are not, or the first four categories, are not phase one, because there is this feeling that february the 15th is almost a marker
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for consideration or reconsideration. so what is the next target? because it's the lith of february, so only ten days away, so how long is the next target get sections five up to nine completed so that phase one is over, and that is when teachers can be considered for vaccination? this is when teachers can be considered for vaccination? b51 is when teachers can be considered for vaccination?— for vaccination? as i said, teachers who are in — for vaccination? as i said, teachers who are in themselves _ for vaccination? as i said, teachers who are in themselves clinically i who are in themselves clinically vulnerable will be in phase one. i’m vulnerable will be in phase one. i'm talkin: vulnerable will be in phase one. i'm talking about overall teachers, because this is my thought, because the government set the target date of the 8th of march for schools to go fully open. of the 8th of march for schools to go fully open-— go fully open. absolutely. if you take the mid-february - go fully open. absolutely. if you take the mid-february target, i go fully open. absolutely. if you i take the mid-february target, that's take the mid—february target, that's 88% of mortality and if you work forward from that by two or three weeks when the first dose begins to offer the high level of protection, that puts you in the first week of march that the prime minister talked about reopening schools and then gradually reopening the rest of the
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economy. the phase one, the top nine, is 99% of mortality, so we should be by then having really good robust data. we have two sets of data we are waiting for and one is in care homes where public health england are testing residential care homes because they are in category one and one with health front line workers who are category two of that top nine, those pieces of evidence coupled with other pieces of evidence from other countries as well will hopefully give us a clear road map to opening the economy where you see a huge reduction of deaths. i where you see a huge reduction of deaths. ~ , ., ., deaths. i think you may have understood _ deaths. i think you may have understood -- _ deaths. i think you may have. understood -- misunderstood deaths. i think you may have i understood -- misunderstood my understood —— misunderstood my question, what is the target date for completing the groups five up to nine? because february the 15th are the first four. forgive me. you are right. the first four. forgive me. you are riuht. ~ ., ., , ., ., right. we have not set a target date. my focus _ right. we have not set a target date. my focus is _ right. we have not set a target
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date. my focus is on _ right. we have not set a target i date. my focus is on mid-february date. my focus is on mid—february and eight weeks ago, we literally had not vaccinated... i understand the tart et had not vaccinated... i understand the target date _ had not vaccinated... i understand the target date is _ had not vaccinated... i understand the target date is mid-february i had not vaccinated... i understand. the target date is mid-february but the target date is mid—february but you will also understand that people want to know when they will be vaccinated and it is helpful for us to have a timeline. we are being patient and we understand the reasons for staying at home keeping space and protecting the nhs, but you are the vaccines minister and ten days away you have the february of 15th and as you have to be looking forward planning? yes. of 15th and as you have to be looking forward planning? yes, and i and i will come _ looking forward planning? yes, and i and i will come on _ looking forward planning? yes, and i and i will come on your— looking forward planning? yes, and i and i will come on your programme i and i will come on your programme and i will come on your programme and talk about it when we set it out. we reached 600,000... 50 and talk about it when we set it out. we reached 600,000. .. so we won't hear — out. we reached 600,000. .. so we won't hear before _ out. we reached 600,000. .. so we won't hear before every _ out. we reached 600,000. .. so we won't hear before every the - out. we reached 600,000. .. so we won't hear before every the 15th? i out. we reached 600,000. .. so we . won't hear before every the 15th? we will won't hear before every the 15th? , will set out the target before we hit the 15th of february, but you can do the maths. we did 600,000 in a single day, so the deployment infrastructure we have built can do as much vaccines as we get supply, so the limiting factor in —— will be vaccine supply, but in the next ten orso
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vaccine supply, but in the next ten or so days we have to do another almost touching 5 million, so we keep that rate up and we will very quickly go down the list of the top nine. �* , ., ., , nine. let's do the maths while ou're nine. let's do the maths while you're on _ nine. let's do the maths while you're on air- _ nine. let's do the maths while you're on air. ten _ nine. let's do the maths while you're on air. ten days, i nine. let's do the maths while you're on air. ten days, 5 - nine. let's do the maths while i you're on air. ten days, 5 million people, so how many people are in categories to nine?— categories to nine? categories one to nine in total _ categories to nine? categories one to nine in total is _ categories to nine? categories one to nine in total is about _ categories to nine? categories one to nine in total is about 32 - to nine in total is about 32 million, of which between one and four is a 15 million. 50 million, of which between one and four is a 15 million.— four is a 15 million. so 17 million, so if we are _ four is a 15 million. so 17 million, so if we are vaccinating _ four is a 15 million. so 17 million, so if we are vaccinating 5 - four is a 15 million. so 17 million, so if we are vaccinating 5 million | so if we are vaccinating 5 million people for ten days, we could be looking at potentially 35 days from the 15th of february two vaccinate categories five to nine? is that a reasonable assumption? even better if the supplies improve? that assumes on _ if the supplies improve? that assumes on the _ if the supplies improve? that assumes on the supply - if the supplies improve? “inst assumes on the supply and i don't want to commit to a date without going through it with a fine tooth
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comb because the limiting factor is the supply of vaccines, ultimately. and as you know, with any manufacturing process, especially one that is new, there are challenges around that. as we have seenin challenges around that. as we have seen in europe and we saw in the early days in the uk as well. fix, early days in the uk as well. a couple of questions regarding quarantine and borders, because it's all about keeping us safe here in the uk. excuse me. the ambition for quarantine hotels and anyone coming into the uk via airports or ports, ferries, trains, was announced last week. yesterday the prime minister said we would get an announcement today and later on it was said, no, that was a mistake. so did the prime minister make a mistake or has that decision to announce today been delayed? decision to announce today been dela ed? ., ~' decision to announce today been dela ed? ., ~ ., ., ., delayed? no, i think the operational arm of the hotel— delayed? no, i think the operational arm of the hotel quarantine, -
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delayed? no, i think the operational arm of the hotel quarantine, and - delayed? no, i think the operational arm of the hotel quarantine, and by| arm of the hotel quarantine, and by the way, that is one part of the border policy and includes predeparture testing and much tighter controls, and as you rightly mention, the passenger locatorforms where we know people are staying, they have to quarantine for ten days and that is only one part. 50 they have to quarantine for ten days and that is only one part.— and that is only one part. so that will be announced _ and that is only one part. so that will be announced next _ and that is only one part. so that will be announced next week. - and that is only one part. so that will be announced next week. so| and that is only one part. so that. will be announced next week. so did the prime minister make a mistake was the announcement delayed? tie. was the announcement delayed? no, the was the announcement delayed? mfr, the announcement was always going to be made when the operation of the hotel quarantine is ready and i think the prime minister was saying that within days... tie. think the prime minister was saying that within days. . ._ that within days... no, he said it would be today. _ that within days... no, he said it would be today. my _ that within days... no, he said it i would be today. my understanding that within days... no, he said it - would be today. my understanding was that it would be _ would be today. my understanding was that it would be within _ would be today. my understanding was that it would be within the _ would be today. my understanding was that it would be within the next - would be today. my understanding was that it would be within the next few - that it would be within the next few days. that it would be within the next few da s. ., , . that it would be within the next few da s. ., that it would be within the next few das. . , that it would be within the next few das. ., , days. people are asking why we can't relax the rules _ days. people are asking why we can't relax the rules a _ days. people are asking why we can't relax the rules a little _ days. people are asking why we can't relax the rules a little bit _ relax the rules a little bit quicker. you will be aware of that. i have a question from a viewer when it comes to vaccines. there is a
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message that needs to come out in terms of who is safe and paul has said, i'm getting vaccinated on saturday, i'm 5a, clinically vulnerable due to double cancer and my wife and son have been shielding since march and my concern is my wife won't be vaccinated, so it still leaves us vulnerable. there is a message that even those who are vulnerable and they have been vaccinated that safety is not an assumption should be made. absolutely right. it was good to see the prime minister reiterate the point last night at the press conference for the whole nation. we have to be really, really careful. we are seeing some good evidence, not yet peer—reviewed by the oxford team about transmission rates being reduced by two thirds of the oxford astrazeneca vaccine, and similar evidence in israel with the pfizer vaccine, but we have two big studies looking at this in soon as have more evidence we will be able to share it with the nation. at the moment, please follow the rules and make
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sure you continue to observe social distancing. this new variant is incredibly infectious and loves social interaction, which is how it begins to capture someone who is most vulnerable and sadly can really hurt them. . ~ most vulnerable and sadly can really hurt them. a ., ., , hurt them. one quick word, to be clear as well, _ hurt them. one quick word, to be clear as well, by _ hurt them. one quick word, to be clear as well, by the _ hurt them. one quick word, to be clear as well, by the 15th - hurt them. one quick word, to be clear as well, by the 15th of - clear as well, by the 15th of february that means everybody will have had the first doses, it doesn't include the second in categories one to four and do you have a timeline for that being finished? second doses for categories one up to four? we start the second dosing from march, because of the 12 week interval, so the second doses begin and we keep first dosing and on the 15th we will set out the timeline for more of the first dose all the way up to nine, and the second dosing, which will carry on as normal because anyone who has had the first dose will have the second dosing 12 weeks, that is just an
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operational thing the nhs will deliver. . ~ operational thing the nhs will deliver. ., ~ , ., , . operational thing the nhs will deliver. . ~ , . ., deliver. thank you very much for our deliver. thank you very much for your time _ deliver. thank you very much for your time this — deliver. thank you very much for your time this morning. - sounds like a good time to look out the window. what does it look like if we look out there? well, isn't that nice and calm. and carol, i hope you can see it, it looks rather beautiful? lovely sunrise but different in other parts of the country. this was an earlier picture taken in north cleveland in aberdeenshire where it is snowing and for the next few days, it's been so mild and the temperatures will plummet and for some of us buy a good 13 degrees or some of us buy a good 13 degrees or so and we will see further snow which at the moment looks like it is coming further south as well. today we have a band of cloud and rain across northern ireland and northern england and some sleet and snow and some hill snow across the north pennines in scotland but increasingly we will see the snow get to lower levels in ireland and blowing in the wind. we also have a band of showery rain moving north across england and also wales and
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that could be heavy and thundery as we go through the afternoon, but in between, dry conditions. still mild in the south and cold in the north. as we head through the evening and overnight we can see how we watch the band of snow and rain move north through northern ireland as well and the showery rain pushes into north—east england where it will become ensconced, so here the ground is saturated and there is a risk of localised flooding and also some frost in scotland and also some ice as well on untreated surfaces. as we go through the midnight hour until 6pm on saturday, the met office has an amber weather warning to cover the period for heavy snow and an amber weather warning means an increased likelihood of impacts due to the weather, so things like power cuts, travel disruption, small rural villages cut off, that kind of thing. and we could have as much as ten or 15 centimetres of snow, getting on the six inches at lower levels above are hundred and 50
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metres we could see twice that amount. there is the snow across parts of scotland and you can see showers coming in across northern ireland, wales and also in the south—west and the rain persists across north—east england where we will have gusty winds as we will across eastern scotland, which is coming from the east, a cold direction. still hanging on to the mild air in the south and it is cold in the north. as we head into the weekend, watch this, this is friday would snow in the war and on saturday it gets to sunday and it will get to southern england and the positioning of this could change and it is something we will keep a close eye on. i have run out of time, sol have to stop. back to you. iam taking i am taking the power back and giving you another 12 minutes. how is that? and stop! former reality tv contestant and a&e doctor alex george has been passionately campaigning for better mental health
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provision following the death of his brother llyr last year. he has since used his high profile to campaignfor he has since used his high profile to campaign for better mental health provision drawing on his own family's experience. he will be advising the government after being appointed as a youth mental health ambassador by borisjohnson and we can speak to alex now. good morning to you. can speak to alex now. good morning to ou. , ., can speak to alex now. good morning to ou. ., ., i. can speak to alex now. good morning to ou. ., ., to you. good morning to you both. and thank you _ to you. good morning to you both. and thank you for _ to you. good morning to you both. and thank you for having _ to you. good morning to you both. and thank you for having me - to you. good morning to you both. and thank you for having me on i to you. good morning to you both. | and thank you for having me on the show. ., ., , ., and thank you for having me on the show. ., . , ., �* and thank you for having me on the show-_ i'm - and thank you for having me on the | show-_ i'm quite show. how are you, alex? i'm quite tired as it has _ show. how are you, alex? i'm quite tired as it has been _ show. how are you, alex? i'm quite tired as it has been an _ show. how are you, alex? i'm quite | tired as it has been an overwhelming week for me and my family, and i met the prime minister on tuesday and since then it has been a whirlwind. i've been blown away by the support from the public and i think it really shows how much people care about mental health. this crisis has been awful and one of the things we can take as a positive is that we have realised how vital it is that we look after ourselves and take care of physical health and mental health and also how important it is that we take care of students and
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children as well because they have had a hard time in the pandemic and we need to look after them. {line had a hard time in the pandemic and we need to look after them.- we need to look after them. one of the really important _ we need to look after them. one of the really important things - we need to look after them. one of the really important things about . the really important things about mental health, and this applies to young and old, but specifically to do with young people is the ability to talk about things. and i know, because you said so already, that you are comfortable talking about your brother, and i should say straightaway, our commiserations to you for the loss of your brother. he was what, 19 years old, and took his own life. this campaign you are involved in now, it's deeply personalfor involved in now, it's deeply personal for you, involved in now, it's deeply personalforyou, isn't involved in now, it's deeply personal for you, isn't it? involved in now, it's deeply personalforyou, isn't it? it involved in now, it's deeply personalfor you, isn't it? it is. and ll r personalfor you, isn't it? it is. and llyrwas— personalfor you, isn't it? it is. and llyr was about _ personalfor you, isn't it? it is. and llyr was about 19 - personalfor you, isn't it? it is. and llyr was about 19 and - personalfor you, isn't it? it is. i and llyr was about 19 and starting medical school and was waiting for his a—level results and that puts a lot of pressure on him and academically a lot of students talk about that combined with the pandemic and one of the things that really hurts me and my family is that he never told us he was struggling. he took such a final decision without sharing with me, as
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an older brother or advocate for mental health, and i've been working on this for a while on this campaign, and that's not only painful but a stark reminder that there is still stigma around mental health. everybody says we have broken it down and talked about it a lot but there is so much work to be done. we are making progress on the fact the prime minister of the country has appointed someone in this role in such a position that hopefully we can do something, that is a real step forward but there's a long way to go. i have no doubt that if there was not such a stigma and if there was not such a stigma and if he had felt more comfortable you might have asked for help and i might have asked for help and i might have asked for help and i might have been able to do something about it, so it's hard for me to accept it but i feel each day if i can get up and can now have the opportunity to help other people and have the backing of the prime minister to do that, that really helps me and my family. it is minister to do that, that really helps me and my family. it is really important. — helps me and my family. it is really important. even — helps me and my family. it is really important, even people _ helps me and my family. it is really important, even people hearing - helps me and my family. it is really| important, even people hearing you saying that given what you know in your professional capacity,
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something like somebody taking their own life and it could be another trauma of a different kind, of a loved one or a friend or a member of yourfamily, the ripple effect loved one or a friend or a member of your family, the ripple effect of that for those people's mental health as well can be really dramatic. those questions you ask yourself about what you could have done or what you might have said, and there can be anger and resentment, all of those things in themselves can be really harmful. absolutely. i ask myself every day and i go through those questions and i talk about it as a little black box that is in my head and every now and then the box opens and i have to deal with some of the things inside the box but as time goes on i'm better at keeping it closed and dealing with it at the right times and not letting it spill out into when i need to focus, like when i am in a&e or doing other things. so many people have experienced lost —— loss this year and sometimes you get numb to the numbers, but so many
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families have been impacted by this and a lot of my work focuses on schools and getting change around the curriculum and making sure we have support for kids going back to school in the transition period but also the wider mental health of the public and i also want to make sure we are remembering nhs staff as well because diagnosis such as ptsd, depression, anxiety, in nhs staff, we will see it on the rise and we need to be there for the people who have cared for others around this because it has been a long, hard battle. it because it has been a long, hard battle. , . , battle. it starts with the little thin . s battle. it starts with the little things and — battle. it starts with the little things and we _ battle. it starts with the little things and we were _ battle. it starts with the little things and we were talking i battle. it starts with the little - things and we were talking about it earlier, that thing about asking someone, just on a routine basis, how are you doing and we know there is the glib answer and everybody says, oh, i'm fine. that thing. a lot of people go through that ritual. how do you make sure, and you must have asked yourself, how do you must have asked yourself, how do you make sure you get beyond that point and without wishing to pry, we are british and sometimes people are afraid of doing it, but how do you move beyond that point? t afraid of doing it, but how do you move beyond that point?-
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afraid of doing it, but how do you move beyond that point? i think you are so right- — move beyond that point? i think you are so right- i— move beyond that point? i think you are so right. i found _ move beyond that point? i think you are so right. i found the _ move beyond that point? i think you are so right. i found the ask- move beyond that point? i think you are so right. i found the ask twice i are so right. i found the ask twice campaign was centred around it, people might say i am fine, and the instincts are powerful and we can realise when somebody might not actually be fine or they are just saying that and they can take the opportunity when it is appropriate, or may be longer in the day and say, charlie, ijust feel like or may be longer in the day and say, charlie, i just feel like you or may be longer in the day and say, charlie, ijust feel like you don't seem yourself, are you sure you are ok? and sometimes that is the opportunity that person needs, you know, i'm not having the best way, this has happened, this has happened, and just doing that and being there for someone is what counts and people worry about the words to use for people but being there to listen is one of the biggest things you can do and being a friend to someone, shoulder to lean on if they need that and pointing people in the right direction. one thing i would say is that there has been some brilliant guidance from the nhs about what to
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do when you are struggling, both for parents and students of children as well and some great advice to support people if you think they are struggling on where to go because often people think, what do i do now and who can i reach out to and there are some amazing organisations, so take a look at the organisations and take a look at the organisations and take note because there is really good advice on there. t take note because there is really good advice on there.— take note because there is really good advice on there. i would say that experience _ good advice on there. i would say that experience tells _ good advice on there. i would say that experience tells me - good advice on there. i would say that experience tells me we've i good advice on there. i would say. that experience tells me we've had good advice on there. i would say i that experience tells me we've had a few ambassadors along the way and they have sort of disappeared a bit. please don't disappear. don't go disappearing, because it's such an important message on the other one is we haven't even talked about your day job and is we haven't even talked about your dayjob and you are a doctor in a&e and hopefully we can incorporate that and talk again. haifa and hopefully we can incorporate that and talk again.— and hopefully we can incorporate that and talk again. how about that? yes, thank that and talk again. how about that? yes. thank you- _ that and talk again. how about that? yes, thank you. it's _ that and talk again. how about that? yes, thank you. it's been _ that and talk again. how about that? yes, thank you. it's been a - that and talk again. how about that? yes, thank you. it's been a busy - that and talk again. how about that? yes, thank you. it's been a busy few| yes, thank you. it's been a busy few months and i don't intend to move anywhere and i'm prepared to move mountains and i won't give up on this. i'm working with some of the most brilliant charities and organisations who are backing me all the way so i'm not going anywhere, i hope. the way so i'm not going anywhere, i ho e, , ., the way so i'm not going anywhere, i hoe. ., ., ~ the way so i'm not going anywhere, i hoe. ., . ~ ., ., ~ the way so i'm not going anywhere, i hope. good to talk to you. thank you very much- — hope. good to talk to you. thank you very much. thank _ hope. good to talk to you. thank you very much. thank you _
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hope. good to talk to you. thank you very much. thank you very _ hope. good to talk to you. thank you very much. thank you very much. - hope. good to talk to you. thank you i very much. thank you very much. when someone says — very much. thank you very much. when someone says they _ very much. thank you very much. when someone says they will _ very much. thank you very much. when someone says they will move _ someone says they will move mountains, believe them. he's not going anywhere. it's time for the latest in our 'lockdown life' series, where familiar faces give us hints and tips on how to get through staying at home. today, it's the turn of maths teacher and author, bobby seagull. and hejoins us now. good morning, bobby. we are going to talk to in a moment but we have a little snippet of what you have been up to. doing some mummy kicks, knee raises, starjumps and your body is tight. now it is time to get your mind active with mathematics. west ham organised a training matches for their reserves and their first—team
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squad. your task is to work out how many people in the first—team match and in the reserves. britain has a very proud asian culture and we want to share it with you, because asian and british culture, it's all intellect, great happy communities. —— all interlinked. put on your glasses, go back in time and space, let's go back to the modern times. jump on. 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 85, 88. we are back. jump on. 40,50, 60,70, 80, 85, 88. we are back-_ jump on. 40,50, 60,70, 80, 85, 88. we are back-— we are back. bobby i am going to rive ou we are back. bobby i am going to give you ten _ we are back. bobby i am going to give you ten out _ we are back. bobby i am going to give you ten out of— we are back. bobby i am going to give you ten out of ten _ we are back. bobby i am going to give you ten out of ten for- give you ten out of ten for enthusiasm straightaway. there you go. you enjoy that. i have to ask, you have been so busy, do you actually venture out in front of the telly and with a pack of crisps and do nothing like most of us are doing? ma; do nothing like most of us are doinu ? g ., , do nothing like most of us are doinr? g ., , .,.
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doing? my down time is watching the adventures of — doing? my down time is watching the adventures of west _ doing? my down time is watching the adventures of west town _ doing? my down time is watching the adventures of west town football - adventures of west town football clu b a nd adventures of west town football club and this year they have provided me lots ofjoy —— west ham football club. j provided me lots of 'oy -- west ham football club.— football club. i have noted the show behind you- — football club. i have noted the show behind you- it _ football club. i have noted the show behind you. it has _ football club. i have noted the show behind you. it has not _ football club. i have noted the show behind you. it has not gone - behind you. it has not gone unnoticed. the importance of keeping physically active, i am asking if you are slobbing on the sofa, but we know about that, but it's also at keeping the brain active because that can make you feeljust as tired if you have not been thinking. absolutely. healthy body, healthy mind and doctor alex was talking about mental health, and physical health and it's trying to combine the two and making sure you are keeping active by doing quizzes, puzzles and learning not too many hobbies but keeping yourself mentally engaged during this period. for some people, and i know maths is your thing, for some people, and i know maths is yourthing, but for some people, and i know maths is your thing, but for some people it's things like crosswords and puzzles, which is all connected, isn't it? yes, it's about finding what your thing is and i do different things like a family library quiz every saturday or even for people who like
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strictly, every wednesday and saturday i do a maths and dance session, so i teach catches some maths tricks and she'd teaches me a dance version. iwho maths tricks and she'd teaches me a dance version-— dance version. who is learning questioning — dance version. who is learning questioning -- _ dance version. who is learning questioning -- quickest- dance version. who is learning questioning -- quickest in - dance version. who is learning j questioning -- quickest in that questioning —— quickest in that equation question what she's actually very good.— equation question what she's actually very good. she's very good at that. actually very good. she's very good at that- she — actually very good. she's very good at that. she has _ actually very good. she's very good at that. she has learned _ actually very good. she's very good at that. she has learned the - at that. she has learned the different dances, mathematical ones, so i got a long way to go.— so i got a long way to go. there you no. as so i got a long way to go. there you go- as long — so i got a long way to go. there you go- as long as— so i got a long way to go. there you go- as long as you _ so i got a long way to go. there you go. as long as you can _ so i got a long way to go. there you go. as long as you can count - so i got a long way to go. there you go. as long as you can count to - go. as long as you can count to four, you are all right when it comes to dancing. there you go. so many children learning in lockdown and i know that you would have been involved in some of the lessons and whatever, but it is keeping them engaged, isn't it? because you haven't got the stimulation of other classmates and seeing them engaged or interaction, so how important is it that that is got right at the moment? j it that that is got right at the moment?— it that that is got right at the moment? ., _ , , �*, moment? i would say firstly it's important _ moment? i would say firstly it's important to — moment? i would say firstly it's important to acknowledge - moment? i would say firstly it's important to acknowledge it's i moment? i would say firstly it's important to acknowledge it's a | important to acknowledge it's a difficult period. you are expected to progress to two or three levels
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of advancement, but i would say that even though parents are juggling cooking, theirjobs, multiple children in the household, the key thing is as a parent, if you've got children, just checking on them and say, 30 seconds every hour, because we know what children are like, if you leave them there, they will be on tick—tock and instagram. it's not like sitting for two hours and asking about pythagoras theorem, it's just checking in so the kids feel as though they are accountable to someone. flan feel as though they are accountable to someone-— to someone. can i raise one thing that i know _ to someone. can i raise one thing that i know a _ to someone. can i raise one thing that i know a lot _ to someone. can i raise one thing that i know a lot of _ to someone. can i raise one thing that i know a lot of parents - that i know a lot of parents struggle with? they want to help their children do mass and will talk about that specifically and they start doing it and say it is so differently now —— do maths. and the children turn around and say it is something you don't do any more, and the parents are trying to help but the parents are trying to help but the way they do things is different from the way they are taught now. understandable. most parents were taught in multiplication, the column method but now students have the
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grid method. the key thing is not to get into an argument say one is better than the other, it's having a conversation and saying, show me your method and i will show you my method, and in those moments try to find the time, butjust regular little engagements.— little engagements. bobby, i understand. _ little engagements. bobby, i understand. you should - little engagements. bobby, ij understand. you should have little engagements. bobby, i- understand. you should have seen our faces this morning and charlie was delighted to have a puzzle. let's do it quickly. delighted to have a puzzle. let's do it ruickl . ., delighted to have a puzzle. let's do it ruickl . . ., ., it quickly. imagine we have a five aside mixed _ it quickly. imagine we have a five aside mixed england _ it quickly. imagine we have a five aside mixed england team, - it quickly. imagine we have a five - aside mixed england team, rashford in goal, alex scott in defence, declan rice in midfield, ellen white up declan rice in midfield, ellen white up front and southgate in defence and you are trying to work out how many high fives there would be in total if they high five each other. five times four times? 25}. total if they high five each other. five times four times? 20. times three, five times four times? 2: times three, times five times four times? 22 times three, times two? five times four times? 20. times three, times two? what - five times four times? 20. times three, times two? what you - five times four times? 20. times three, times two? what you do i five times four times? 20. times three, times two? what you do is five times four times? 20. times - three, times two? what you do is you imaaine three, times two? what you do is you imagine each — three, times two? what you do is you imagine each player, _ three, times two? what you do is you imagine each player, rashford - three, times two? what you do is you imagine each player, rashford does l imagine each player, rashford does for high fives,... 50 imagine each player, rashford does for high fives,...— for high fives,... so it is four lus for high fives,... so it is four plus three —
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for high fives,... so it is four plus three plus _ for high fives,... so it is four plus three plus two? - for high fives,... so it is four plus three plus two? four i for high fives,... so it is four i plus three plus two? four plus three, plus three plus two? four plus three. plus — plus three plus two? four plus three, plus two _ plus three plus two? four plus three, plus two and _ plus three plus two? four plus three, plus two and then - plus three plus two? four plus three, plus two and then five, | plus three plus two? four plus i three, plus two and then five, so then you divide it by do to give ten. i could spend ten minutes on this. ., , ten. i could spend ten minutes on this. . , ., this. can i is point out the equation _ this. can i is point out the equation and _ this. can i is point out the equation and strictly - this. can i is point out the - equation and strictly speaking, but if the manager also gets a high five from each of the players five. southgate is on the pitch, i've got the waistcoat. i am the manager. and the waistcoat. i am the manager. and we should say — the waistcoat. i am the manager. and we should say is _ the waistcoat. i am the manager. and we should say is health and safety information, no high—fiving now, not allowed. let's put it out. aha, allowed. let's put it out. socially distanced high five. bobby, lovely to speak to you, stay chirpy and busy. lovely to speak to you, stay chirpy and bus . ., ~ lovely to speak to you, stay chirpy and bus. ., ~ i. lovely to speak to you, stay chirpy and bus. ., ~' . and busy. thank you so much. headlines _ and busy. thank you so much. headlines in _ and busy. thank you so much. headlines in a _ and busy. thank you so much. headlines in a moment. -
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good morning, welcome to breakfast, with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today: as ten million people receive their firstjab across the uk, trials are taking place to see whether it's safe to have different vaccines for the first and second dose. good morning. iamat i am at epsom racecourse where vaccinations are just about to get started for the day. we are live here this morning taking a closer look at how this successful operation is working on the ground. the chief medical officer says the uk is past the peak of the second wave, but case numbers remain "incredibly high". nationwide applause in honour of captain sir tom moore. his family say they were "incredibly touched".
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good morning. a fair price for energy or pushing people into poverty? charities have told breakfast they're worried about the impact of rising fuel bills for millions of households. good morning. brilliant brighton stun the premier league champions liverpool, who are beaten at anfield for a second match running, in another of this season's big surprises. good morning. we have a band of rain, sleet and hail is now moving steadily north across the country. in the south, heavy, thundery rain heading towards north—east england by tonight. then it is going to turn colder and more of us will see some snow as we head into the weekend. more details later. good morning. it's thursday, the 4th of february. our top story. the uk is "past the peak" of the coronavirus outbreak, according to england's chief medical officer, chris whitty, but he warned that case
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numbers remain very high. the news came after the prime minister said more than ten million people have now received a firstjab of a vaccine across the uk. the government is aiming to offer a first dose to 15 million of the most vulnerable people by mid february. the prime minister said that so far in england, almost 90% of everyone aged over 75 has received an initial dose. there were 1,322 new deaths reported in the latest 24 hour period — that's people who died within four weeks of a positive covid—19 test. trials have been lodged in the uk to find out if giving people different covid vaccines for their first and second jabs work better than just one. let's get more on this with our chief political correspondent, adam fleming. good morning. we tried to look into this with nasim is a highway, the vaccines minister, talking about the potential of the data they are
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looking into with two different vaccines being used, but also tried to get a timeline as well. —— nadhim zahawi. to get a timeline as well. -- nadhim zahawi. ~ ., to get a timeline as well. -- nadhim zahawi. a, ,., ., , zahawi. morning. good try with the vaccines minister. _ zahawi. morning. good try with the vaccines minister. it _ zahawi. morning. good try with the vaccines minister. it is _ zahawi. morning. good try with the vaccines minister. it is worth - vaccines minister. it is worth spending _ vaccines minister. it is worth spending a little bit of time remembering what is actually happening here. the independent committee that advises the government and vaccination has come up government and vaccination has come up with_ government and vaccination has come up with nine _ government and vaccination has come up with nine priority groups of people — up with nine priority groups of people who should get the vaccines. what is _ people who should get the vaccines. what is happening now is that the top four— what is happening now is that the top four are what is happening now is that the top fourare being what is happening now is that the top four are being vaccinated, with a target _ top four are being vaccinated, with a target of— top four are being vaccinated, with a target of all of them being done by the _ a target of all of them being done by the 15th of february. that is people — by the 15th of february. that is people in— by the 15th of february. that is people in care homes, people over 70, people — people in care homes, people over 70, people who work in the nhs and people _ 70, people who work in the nhs and people who work in care homes as welt _ people who work in care homes as welt that — people who work in care homes as welt that is — people who work in care homes as well. that is may be about 15 million — well. that is may be about 15 million people. so then you move on to phase _ million people. so then you move on to phase two. that will come after the 15th— to phase two. that will come after the 15th of— to phase two. that will come after the 15th of february, which will probably— the 15th of february, which will probably be another 70 million people. — probably be another 70 million people, which is going down the age ranges _ people, which is going down the age ranges gradually. what is also happening at the same time is that
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an independent committee is looking at phase _ an independent committee is looking at phase two, what happens after you have vaccinated all the vulnerable people? _ have vaccinated all the vulnerable people? there is a political debate going _ people? there is a political debate going on— people? there is a political debate going on about whether you keep it based _ going on about whether you keep it based on _ going on about whether you keep it based on age, keep going down the a-e based on age, keep going down the age ranges, getting youngerand younger, — age ranges, getting youngerand younger, or do you put other people in there _ younger, or do you put other people in there who — younger, or do you put other people in there who might be vulnerable, such as _ in there who might be vulnerable, such as particular key workers? some people _ such as particular key workers? some people say— such as particular key workers? some people say teachers should be vaccinated. it can all seem a bit confusing — vaccinated. it can all seem a bit confusing but that is what is happening at the moment. the government's focuses on getting the first target, the first four most vulnerable groups done by the 15th of february. intriguingly, there is a bit _ of february. intriguingly, there is a bit of— of february. intriguingly, there is a bit of science going on at the moment— a bit of science going on at the moment as well, which is to see if you can _ moment as well, which is to see if you can give — moment as well, which is to see if you can give some people a first dose _ you can give some people a first dose of— you can give some people a first dose of one vaccine, and the second i was _ dose of one vaccine, and the second i was from _ dose of one vaccine, and the second i was from a — dose of one vaccine, and the second i was from a different vaccine. does that actually give you more bang for your book? — that actually give you more bang for your book? here is how nadhim zahawi explained _ your book? here is how nadhim zahawi explained earlier. the _ explained earlier. the study that we have just funded to the tune of about £7 million, to
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look at the effect of using two different vaccines together, its something that is done historically with vaccines for hepatitis, for children's vaccines in polio, measles, mumps and rubella. it will, hopefully, maintain the uk at the forefront of research into covid vaccines. we are very proud of art track record. obviously you know on the vaccines task force, and the deployment a programme that this is another part of the armoury. now if you've already had a dose of the vaccine — now if you've already had a dose of the vaccine you are not going to be experimented on with getting a second — experimented on with getting a second dose that is different. this williust_ second dose that is different. this williust be — second dose that is different. this willjust be a group of volunteers in a clinical— willjust be a group of volunteers in a clinical trial. the rest of the vaccine — in a clinical trial. the rest of the vaccine programme will carry on as normat _ vaccine programme will carry on as normat so— vaccine programme will carry on as normal. so this is looking forward to the _ normal. so this is looking forward to the future. also looking forward to the future. also looking forward to the _ to the future. also looking forward to the future. also looking forward to the future in terms of the lifting — to the future in terms of the lifting of— to the future in terms of the lifting of the glove down in england, the prime minister, even though— england, the prime minister, even though he — england, the prime minister, even though he is seeing these vaccine
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numbers, — though he is seeing these vaccine numbers, is sticking to his timetable. they will look at the date _ timetable. they will look at the date on — timetable. they will look at the date on the 15th of february. they will publish a plan for lifting the lockdown on the 22nd of february. and the _ lockdown on the 22nd of february. and the earliest anything will happen, _ and the earliest anything will happen, potentially, is a schools in england _ happen, potentially, is a schools in england may be opening from the 8th of march _ england may be opening from the 8th of march. the word downing street keeps _ of march. the word downing street keeps using is cautious. may. _ keeps using is cautious. may, as— keeps using is cautious. may, as well. thank you. the uk and eu have said they will work hard to resolve concerns about the impact of the brexit trade deal on northern ireland. since the start of the year, supermarkets have struggled with supplies, and border checks had to be suspended last week when staff were threatened. talks last night were described as constructive. the family of captain sir tom moore said they were "incredibly touched" by people taking part in a nationwide applause in his memory last night. the prime minister led the tributes to the 100—year—old fundraiser who died
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with coronavirus on tuesday. a warning that this report from john maguire contains flash photography from the start. captain sir tom moore's home has seen some spine tingling moments in recent months. his 100th lap, his 100th birthday, and last night, his familyjoined the nation to applaud his extraordinary achievements. applause. staff at bedford hospital showed their appreciation for the man they said they'd been immensely privileged to care for in his last days. his name will always be synonymous with the nhs. at whiston hospital on merseyside, they described him as their hero. he touched people in every part of our society, and in cities across the uk
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they took a minute to say thank you. the captain tom train pulled into london's paddington station, as staff formed a guard of honour. so, how should he be more permanently remembered, the prime minister was asked at the downing street covid press conference? on the issue of a statue for captain tom moore, a public memorial of some kind to captain tom, i'm absolutely, of course, open to that. i know that everybody — that's the kind of thing that people would want to support, and we'll be working with his family to see what they feel is most appropriate, and be taking that forward. the six o'clock kick—off allowed for manchester city and burnley footballers tojoin in.
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one of his most cherished accolades was being named honorary colonel at the army foundation college in harrogate. and serving soldiers of the royal irish regiment honoured a former soldier in the loudest way they could. back in his home village in bedfordshire, the applause was not only for captain sir tom, but also the family that had supported him throughout his endeavours. he may be gone, but will never be forgotten. john maguire, bbc news, bedfordshire. i also feel for hannah, her husband colin and their children. they have lost their father, grandfather and they have come out because i think they have come out because i think they know how important it is.
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captain tom touched so many hearts. it was important for them to show their appreciation. it was important for them to show theirappreciation. he it was important for them to show their appreciation. he meant the world to them, of course, but touched many of us. absolutely. it has been played — touched many of us. absolutely. it has been played out _ touched many of us. absolutely. it has been played out very - touched many of us. absolutely. it has been played out very much - touched many of us. absolutely. it has been played out very much in. has been played out very much in public. there will be a moment when they want some car. a very moving scenes. 11 minutes past eight. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. we need to listen to you more so than ever this morning, i think. in the north of the country lots of people are used to snow and they almost giggle, i think, at some of the panic people down south have when these now, is but it does affect roads and safety. absolutely, it does. affect roads and safety. absolutely, it does- and — affect roads and safety. absolutely, it does- and i— affect roads and safety. absolutely, it does. and i get _ affect roads and safety. absolutely, it does. and i get is _ affect roads and safety. absolutely, it does. and i get is quite _ affect roads and safety. absolutely, it does. and i get is quite right. - it does. and i get is quite right. for starters, it does. and i get is quite right. forstarters, it it does. and i get is quite right. for starters, it has been mild in the south. it'll turn much colder. in a windshield on sunday and it will be better. for this note to come in the north and it will be travelling further south as well. —— further snow. today we have a band of rain, sleet and snow, the snow
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mostly on the hills in northern ireland, northern england and scotland. the snow blowing on that easterly wind. at the same time we have some heavy and potentially thundery showers drifting northwards across england and wales. in between something drier and brighter. still mild in the south, called in the north. as we head through this evening that band of heavy, potentially thundery showers, becomes ensconced across north—east england, where of course the ground is saturated. the risk of localised flooding. the rain and hail slow —— snow advance across scotland. some of it will get down to lower levels. the risk of ice and frost. but still, not as cold as we come further south. the met office has an amber weather warning out for heavy snow. that is for parts of scotland from midnight tonight. it lasts until tea—time on saturday. we could have as much as 15 centimetres, six inches of fresh snow at lower levels and twice that above. above 150 metres. that is something to watch
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out for. absolutely, carol. be safe out there in these regions where those warnings are. see you in half an hour. 12 warnings are. see you in half an hour. ' , , the prime minister has praised what he's described as the "colossal" effort to vaccinate 10 million people. the government's target was to protect 15 million of the most vulnerable people by the middle of this month. breakfast�*s graham satchell is at epsom racecourse in surrey, one of the vaccination hubs. as we have been watching you this morning, the racecourse is not looking as normal. it has just openedin looking as normal. it has just opened in the last half an hour to people to get their vaccination done. tell us more.— done. tell us more. that is absolutely _ done. tell us more. that is absolutely right, _ done. tell us more. that is absolutely right, charlie. . done. tell us more. that is i absolutely right, charlie. they started — absolutely right, charlie. they started this morning at exactly eight _ started this morning at exactly eight o'clock. you can see the line of vaccination stations. kathleen hasiust— of vaccination stations. kathleen hasjust had herjab and is very happy— hasjust had herjab and is very happy about it. for a 10 million people — happy about it. for a 10 million people to — happy about it. for a 10 million people to have now been given the first jab— people to have now been given the first jab is— people to have now been given the first jab is a significant milestone
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in this— first jab is a significant milestone in this vaccine roll—out programme. and we _ in this vaccine roll—out programme. and we were — in this vaccine roll—out programme. and we were very fortunate to be able to _ and we were very fortunate to be able to film here for a day to get a bit of— able to film here for a day to get a bit of a _ able to film here for a day to get a bit of a closer look behind the scenes— bit of a closer look behind the scenes to _ bit of a closer look behind the scenes to see how this operation is working _ scenes to see how this operation is working on— scenes to see how this operation is working on the ground. just before seven in the morning and lead nurse magdalena gets ready for another day. she heads straight for the vaccines. a precious, life—saving commodity, this a vital stock and temperature check. in an hour, the first of hundreds and hundreds of people will arrive your
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to be vaccinated.— to be vaccinated. good morning everybody- _ to be vaccinated. good morning everybody. there _ to be vaccinated. good morning everybody. there has _ to be vaccinated. good morning everybody. there has been - to be vaccinated. good morning everybody. there has been a i to be vaccinated. good morning i everybody. there has been a little flurry of the new south african variant, so we need to be very aware that we are sanitising, changing our masks, keeping our distance. we are expecting the same numbers as every day, so it will be a busy morning. let's have a good day. senior nurse lisa nash collect and distribute the vaccine. each tiny vial contains ten doses. everything is monitored, documented, accounted for. {lance doses. everything is monitored, documented, accounted for. once they have opened — documented, accounted for. once they have opened it. _ documented, accounted for. once they have opened it, they _ documented, accounted for. once they have opened it, they will— documented, accounted for. once they have opened it, they will put _ documented, accounted for. once they have opened it, they will put a - have opened it, they will put a timer— have opened it, they will put a timer on — have opened it, they will put a timer on for six hours. it has to be used _ timer on for six hours. it has to be used in _ timer on for six hours. it has to be used in six — timer on for six hours. it has to be used in six hours. we don't want to waste _ used in six hours. we don't want to waste any— used in six hours. we don't want to waste any vaccine. we have done very well so _ waste any vaccine. we have done very well so far~ _ waste any vaccine. we have done very well so far. we didn't waste any at all in _ well so far. we didn't waste any at all in the _ well so far. we didn't waste any at all in the last few days. it is really— all in the last few days. it is really good. all in the last few days. it is really good-— all in the last few days. it is really good. all in the last few days. it is reall aood. , . ., , ., really good. outside, richard is on the ate really good. outside, richard is on the gate as — really good. outside, richard is on the gate as the _ really good. outside, richard is on the gate as the first _ really good. outside, richard is on the gate as the first people - really good. outside, richard is on the gate as the first people start i the gate as the first people start to arrive. morning, sir. there is a
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national booking system and everyone has to show their number. this is john, a retired civil engineer. around to the left and masseur, please. around to the left and masseur, lease. ., , . ~' around to the left and masseur, lease. ., , ., ~ , around to the left and masseur, lease. ., , . ~' , . please. lovely. thank you very much and thank you _ please. lovely. thank you very much and thank you for _ please. lovely. thank you very much and thank you for all— please. lovely. thank you very much and thank you for all you _ please. lovely. thank you very much and thank you for all you are - please. lovely. thank you very much and thank you for all you are doing. l and thank you for all you are doing. how are _ and thank you for all you are doing. how are you — and thank you for all you are doing. how are you feeling today? fine, excited, pleased _ how are you feeling today? fine, excited, pleased that _ how are you feeling today? fine, excited, pleased that we - how are you feeling today? fine, excited, pleased that we are - how are you feeling today? fine, excited, pleased that we are all. how are you feeling today? f ye: excited, pleased that we are all on with the show. the excited, pleased that we are all on with the show._ excited, pleased that we are all on with the show. the process is simple and auick. with the show. the process is simple and quick. first, _ with the show. the process is simple and quick. first, everyone _ with the show. the process is simple and quick. first, everyone is- and quick. first, everyone is checked in. then a short wait, just a few minutes. checked in. then a short wait, 'ust a few minutes.�* checked in. then a short wait, 'ust a few minutes. today is my first day of actually working _ a few minutes. today is my first day of actually working as _ a few minutes. today is my first day of actually working as a _ a few minutes. today is my first day of actually working as a nurse - a few minutes. today is my first day of actually working as a nurse year. | of actually working as a nurse year. i have rejoined the nursing register. i have re'oined the nursing register.— i have re'oined the nursing reuister. ., ., . ., register. imogen, who will give john his vaccine. — register. imogen, who will give john his vaccine, left _ register. imogen, who will give john his vaccine, left nursing _ register. imogen, who will give john his vaccine, left nursing five - register. imogen, who will give john his vaccine, left nursing five years i his vaccine, left nursing five years ago to start a family, but she is back. t ago to start a family, but she is back. ., ., , ., ., , back. i thought it was a really excitin: back. i thought it was a really exciting opportunity, - back. i thought it was a really exciting opportunity, i- back. i thought it was a really| exciting opportunity, i wanted back. i thought it was a really i exciting opportunity, i wanted to sort of play a part in it. fantastic, yeah. it is a step in the right— fantastic, yeah. it is a step in the right direction. my wife is being done _ right direction. my wife is being
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done tomorrow. i have just been reading — done tomorrow. i have just been reading a — done tomorrow. i have just been reading a whatsapp message from a brother—in—law in south africa who is in hospital there with it. with covid _ is in hospital there with it. with covid and _ is in hospital there with it. with covid. and not well at all. so, yeah. — covid. and not well at all. so, yeah. you _ covid. and not well at all. so, yeah, you know, it is touching everybody— yeah, you know, it is touching everybody somewhere. next yeah, you know, it is touching everybody somewhere. next in line, anotherjohn- _ everybody somewhere. next in line, anotherjohn. he _ everybody somewhere. next in line, anotherjohn. he is _ everybody somewhere. next in line, anotherjohn. he is being _ everybody somewhere. next in line, anotherjohn. he is being looked - anotherjohn. he is being looked after by his neighbour, deborah. john's wife is in a care home and he has not been able to see her. it john's wife is in a care home and he has not been able to see her.- has not been able to see her. it has been a bad — has not been able to see her. it has been a bad year _ has not been able to see her. it has been a bad year for _ has not been able to see her. it has been a bad year for everybody, - been a bad year for everybody, regardless of who you are. everybody has suffered in some way or another. hard not seeing your wife? it is hard not seeing your wife? it is very difficult. _ hard not seeing your wife? it is very difficult. this _ hard not seeing your wife? it is very difficult. this is _ hard not seeing your wife? ft 3 very difficult. this is for all people who have got to people in care homes and hospitals, very difficult. , ., ., , ., difficult. deborah was here a few da s auo difficult. deborah was here a few days ago with — difficult. deborah was here a few days ago with her _ difficult. deborah was here a few days ago with her husband. - difficult. deborah was here a few days ago with her husband. he i difficult. deborah was here a few i days ago with her husband. he had difficult. deborah was here a few - days ago with her husband. he had a heart transplant three years ago. it's been a very worrying time. we have _ it's been a very worrying time. we have been— it's been a very worrying time. we have been shielding really since last march. i had my vaccination on saturday _ last march. i had my vaccination on saturday. and it was brilliant. it
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really— saturday. and it was brilliant. it really was _ saturday. and it was brilliant. it really was. brilliant. exciting. so, yeah _ really was. brilliant. exciting. so, yeah it's— really was. brilliant. exciting. so, yeah. it's very emotional.- really was. brilliant. exciting. so, yeah. it's very emotional. there is relief and joy _ yeah. it's very emotional. there is relief and joy everywhere - yeah. it's very emotional. there is relief and joy everywhere here. i yeah. it's very emotional. there is | relief and joy everywhere here. the smooth running of this programme relies on thejockey club at epsom racecourse, nhs staff, many working on their days off, and an army of volunteers. on their days off, and an army of volunteers-— on their days off, and an army of volunteers._ at i on their days off, and an army of| volunteers._ at the volunteers. good morning. at the front door. _ volunteers. good morning. at the front door, meeting, _ volunteers. good morning. at the front door, meeting, greeting - volunteers. good morning. at the| front door, meeting, greeting and squirting is baz, who has been here from day one. squirting is baz, who has been here from day one-— squirting is baz, who has been here from day one. everyone i get through here is me getting — from day one. everyone i get through here is me getting back _ from day one. everyone i get through here is me getting back to _ from day one. everyone i get through here is me getting back to my - from day one. everyone i get through i here is me getting back to my normal life again _ here is me getting back to my normal life again in— here is me getting back to my normal life aaain. ., ., here is me getting back to my normal life aaain. ., . a, , ., life again. in normal life baz is a ra er life again. in normal life baz is a rapper and _ life again. in normal life baz is a rapper and a _ life again. in normal life baz is a rapper and a successful - life again. in normal life baz is a rapper and a successful one. - life again. in normal life baz is a rapper and a successful one. he| life again. in normal life baz is a - rapper and a successful one. he has more than 10 million views for his tracks online.— more than 10 million views for his tracks online. you would have heard of us if you — tracks online. you would have heard of us if you are _ tracks online. you would have heard of us if you are into _ tracks online. you would have heard of us if you are into grime. - tracks online. you would have heard of us if you are into grime. yes, - of us if you are into grime. yes, i'm not so _ of us if you are into grime. yes, i'm not so into _ of us if you are into grime. yes, i'm not so into grime, _ of us if you are into grime. yes, i'm not so into grime, i'm - of us if you are into grime. yes, | i'm not so into grime, i'm afraid. you are missing out.— i'm not so into grime, i'm afraid. you are missing out. grime stars and ilot you are missing out. grime stars and pilot andy- -- — you are missing out. grime stars and pilot andy- -- the _ you are missing out. grime stars and pilot andy... the sooner _ you are missing out. grime stars and pilot andy... the sooner i _ you are missing out. grime stars and
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pilot andy... the sooner i can - you are missing out. grime stars and pilot andy... the sooner i can get i pilot andy... the sooner i can get --eole pilot andy... the sooner i can get people through — pilot andy... the sooner i can get people through here, _ pilot andy... the sooner i can get people through here, the - pilot andy... the sooner i can get people through here, the sooner| pilot andy... the sooner i can get i people through here, the sooner the world can you back to normal. and world can you back to normal. and ou can world can you back to normal. and you can get _ world can you back to normal. and you can get flying again? exactly, | you can get flying again? exactly, eah. it you can get flying again? exactly, yeah- it has _ you can get flying again? exactly, yeah. it has taken _ you can get flying again? exactly, yeah. it has taken a _ you can get flying again? exactly, yeah. it has taken a herculean i yeah. it has taken a herculean effort to develop _ yeah. it has taken a herculean effort to develop test - yeah. it has taken a herculean effort to develop test and - yeah. it has taken a herculean - effort to develop test and produce this vaccine. yet the jab itself is so quick. just a couple of seconds and another life protected. and another. and another. they vaccinate around 70 people an hour here. on average between 700 and 900 every day. average between 700 and 900 every da . , , , . . average between 700 and 900 every da. day. this is such a huge success that we are _ day. this is such a huge success that we are able _ day. this is such a huge success that we are able to _ day. this is such a huge success that we are able to vaccinate i day. this is such a huge success that we are able to vaccinate as| that we are able to vaccinate as many people. we won't get out of this until he many people. we won't get out of this until be vaccinated population. with all viruses the only way to keep them at bay is with vaccination. it is so important. we have to vaccinated population. we have to vaccinated population. we have to vaccinated population. we have to get on top this virus. $5 have to get on top this virus. as afternoon turns to evening, a change. forthe afternoon turns to evening, a change. for the final hour the centre concentrates on vaccinating carers and medical workers like stephanie, a nurse. and it's now
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that amanda has the job of making sure the number of doses already open matches the number of people left to jab. taste open matches the number of people left to 'ab. ~ ., ., , , left to 'ab. we have to be very, ve left to jab. we have to be very, very careful _ left to jab. we have to be very, very careful with _ left to jab. we have to be very, very careful with monitoring i left to jab. we have to be very, | very careful with monitoring our dosages. we don't want wastage at the end of the day. it is dosages. we don't want wastage at the end of the day.— dosages. we don't want wastage at the end of the day. it is amber from e stein the end of the day. it is amber from epstein -- — the end of the day. it is amber from epstein -- epsom — the end of the day. it is amber from epstein -- epsom vaccine _ the end of the day. it is amber from epstein -- epsom vaccine centre. i the end of the day. it is amber from | epstein -- epsom vaccine centre. we epstein —— epsom vaccine centre. we have some _ epstein —— epsom vaccine centre. we have some equipment available tonight— have some equipment available tonight and i wonder if you wanted tonight and i wonder if you wanted to pop _ tonight and i wonder if you wanted to pop in? — tonight and i wonder if you wanted to pop in? we are open until eight o'clock— to pop in? we are open until eight o'clock tonight. perfect. all right. no worries — o'clock tonight. perfect. all right. no worries. see you soon. cheers. goodbye — no worries. see you soon. cheers. goodbye. yeah, he is coming. outside, — goodbye. yeah, he is coming. outside, richard is still on duty, guiding people to the right place. i guiding people to the right place. i am on a 13 hour shift. i have had some breaks and i have had a lunch time as well. hat some breaks and i have had a lunch time as well-— time as well. not too bad. you are surviving? — time as well. not too bad. you are surviving? absolutely. _ time as well. not too bad. you are surviving? absolutely. less - time as well. not too bad. you are surviving? absolutely. less than i surviving? absolutely. less than half an hour _ surviving? absolutely. less than half an hour after _ surviving? absolutely. less than half an hour after his _ surviving? absolutely. less than half an hour after his phone - surviving? absolutely. less thanj half an hour after his phone call, francis arrives for his unexpected jab. francis arrives for his unexpected
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'ab. . , , ., francis arrives for his unexpected 'ab. . ,, ., ., ., ., jab. painless. you are a golden touch. a jab. painless. you are a golden touch- a bit — jab. painless. you are a golden touch. a bit of— jab. painless. you are a golden touch. a bit of a _ jab. painless. you are a golden touch. a bit of a surprise - jab. painless. you are a golden| touch. a bit of a surprise today, frank? it _ touch. a bit of a surprise today, frank? it was. _ touch. a bit of a surprise today, frank? it was. it _ touch. a bit of a surprise today, frank? it was. it came - touch. a bit of a surprise today, frank? it was. it came as - touch. a bit of a surprise today, frank? it was. it came as a - touch. a bit of a surprise today, i frank? it was. it came as a shock. we were talking _ frank? it was. it came as a shock. we were talking about _ frank? it was. it came as a shock. we were talking about this - frank? it was. it came as a shock. we were talking about this earlier| we were talking about this earlier today— we were talking about this earlier today and — we were talking about this earlier today and wondering when and how and all of that _ today and wondering when and how and all of that. then we got the call. it was _ all of that. then we got the call. it was wonderful. this is the most fun we have had in years! christmas was isolated. we were supposed to have the kids back at christmas, of course. that didn't happen. we had a wedding counsel. our daughter were supposed to get married in may. that is now postponed. if that is the worst that happened, that is not bad. people have suffered more than we have. wejust bad. people have suffered more than we have. we just have to get on with it. keep drinking the red wine. that is the best advice! so frank is the last vaccination of the day. no doses wasted. the team will be back tomorrow and the next day for weeks and months to come. bringing hope, jab byjab.
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well, it was really interesting for us to— well, it was really interesting for us to be — well, it was really interesting for us to be able to come here and spent a day— us to be able to come here and spent a day here _ us to be able to come here and spent a day here a— us to be able to come here and spent a day here. a couple of things struck— a day here. a couple of things struck me _ a day here. a couple of things struck me about our day here. one was what _ struck me about our day here. one was what a — struck me about our day here. one was what a mammoth national effort this has— was what a mammoth national effort this has become. up and down the country _ this has become. up and down the country you — this has become. up and down the country. you see it on the ground here _ country. you see it on the ground here in— country. you see it on the ground here in this — country. you see it on the ground here in this collegiate, polite efficiency, if i can put it that way. — efficiency, if i can put it that way from _ efficiency, if i can put it that way, from the jockey club and the marshals— way, from the jockey club and the marshals outside, to nhs staff, many of whom _ marshals outside, to nhs staff, many of whom are — marshals outside, to nhs staff, many of whom are working on their days off and _ of whom are working on their days off and at— of whom are working on their days off and at weekends. this runs eight o'clock— off and at weekends. this runs eight o'clock to _ off and at weekends. this runs eight o'clock to eight o'clock seven days a week _ o'clock to eight o'clock seven days a week to — o'clock to eight o'clock seven days a week. to the volunteers, stjohn's ambulance. — a week. to the volunteers, stjohn's ambulance, rappers and pilots, everybody coming together determined to make _ everybody coming together determined to make this work and it is working at the _ to make this work and it is working at the moment. the other thing that really— at the moment. the other thing that really strikes you is that people who are — really strikes you is that people who are coming through, every single one of— who are coming through, every single one of them _ who are coming through, every single one of them seems to have been impacted — one of them seems to have been impacted in some way by the virus. the overwhelming sense in the room is one _ the overwhelming sense in the room is one of— the overwhelming sense in the room is one of relief. relief and complete joy that they are one step closer _ complete joy that they are one step closer to _ complete joy that they are one step
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closer to safety. so in a year when we have _ closer to safety. so in a year when we have a — closer to safety. so in a year when we have a lots of dark moments, places— we have a lots of dark moments, places like — we have a lots of dark moments, places like this are offering hope and light — places like this are offering hope and light. and places like this are offering hope and liaht. �* ,, places like this are offering hope and liaht. �* i. , and light. and you will be well aware of this, _ and light. and you will be well aware of this, i _ and light. and you will be well aware of this, i am _ and light. and you will be well aware of this, i am always - and light. and you will be well - aware of this, i am always mindful that when we put someone like you in a place like that, our gratitude to the people waiting to have their vaccines done. we are sorry for intruding in aren't we? it is important people see what they are really like? important people see what they are reall like? ., , important people see what they are reall like? . , ., , , really like? that is absolutely true, we really like? that is absolutely true. we are _ really like? that is absolutely true, we are intruding. - really like? that is absolutely true, we are intruding. buti really like? that is absolutely true, we are intruding. but inj really like? that is absolutely - true, we are intruding. but in my 'ob true, we are intruding. but in my job i_ true, we are intruding. but in my job i approach people and ask if they are — job i approach people and ask if they are ok. every single person was thrilled _ they are ok. every single person was thrilled to— they are ok. every single person was thrilled to be filmed because they are so— thrilled to be filmed because they are so delighted to be here. i can't tell you _ are so delighted to be here. ican't tell you it— are so delighted to be here. i can't tell you. it was actually a total pleasure — tell you. it was actually a total pleasure for us and our side of the camera _ pleasure for us and our side of the camera to — pleasure for us and our side of the camera to watch people, as i say, getting _ camera to watch people, as i say, getting one — camera to watch people, as i say, getting one step closer to safety and normality.— getting one step closer to safety and normality. really interesting. thank you- _ and normality. really interesting. thank you- 23 _ and normality. really interesting. thank you. 23 minutes _ and normality. really interesting. thank you. 23 minutes past - and normality. really interesting. | thank you. 23 minutes past eight. so, how well had the drive gone? former director of immunisation at the department of health, professor david salisbury joins us now.
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good morning to you. i'm not sure how much you were able to see or hear of that piece. we will come down to some of the technicals and the science and the logistics in a moment, but there is a palpable sense of relief for people when they get into those vaccination holes? edi get into those vaccination holes? of course there is. and what a wonderful process we have to get to 10 million— wonderful process we have to get to 10 million vaccinated so far. and every— 10 million vaccinated so far. and every single person who has been through— every single person who has been through that process probably feels an awful— through that process probably feels an awful lot better for having been given _ an awful lot better for having been given that — an awful lot better for having been given that vaccination. so an awful lot better for having been given that vaccination.— given that vaccination. so help us with some _ given that vaccination. so help us with some technicalities, - given that vaccination. so help us with some technicalities, if - given that vaccination. so help us with some technicalities, if you i with some technicalities, if you would. we speak often, indeed we were speaking to the vaccines minister this morning, and what we routinely hear is the huge success this has been. you hear about one day the record was 600,000 vaccines. that is not always the case 300 is about the average. they say consistently that supply is and
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maybe will be the problem. can you just take us through what the potential pitfalls are in relation to that? how great is the problem around the potential supply? for every vaccine campaign to be successful you need three things. to come _ successful you need three things. to come together in the same place at the same _ come together in the same place at the same time. the first is vaccine supply _ the same time. the first is vaccine supply the — the same time. the first is vaccine supply. the second is people do the vaccinations. you heard that this morning — vaccinations. you heard that this morning. and the third, people to be vaccinated _ morning. and the third, people to be vaccinated. you have heard that this morning _ vaccinated. you have heard that this morning. the critical piece to me is that supply— morning. the critical piece to me is that supply drives the whole thing. and making huge quantities of vaccine — and making huge quantities of vaccine in _ and making huge quantities of vaccine in a very short period of time, _ vaccine in a very short period of time, biological processes, you really— time, biological processes, you really have to be very careful about the promises of vaccine supply. it can go— the promises of vaccine supply. it can go wrong at any time. the quantities— can go wrong at any time. the quantities you have been promised may not— quantities you have been promised may not deliver. it is supply that
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drives _ may not deliver. it is supply that drives the — may not deliver. it is supply that drives the whole thing. that may not deliver. it is supply that drives the whole thing. that may be is the answer _ drives the whole thing. that may be is the answer to _ drives the whole thing. that may be is the answer to my _ drives the whole thing. that may be is the answer to my next _ drives the whole thing. that may be is the answer to my next question i is the answer to my next question anyway. when the government is asked about this they will talk about the amount that has been bought and the amount that has been bought and the amount available. but when we ask the government to talk about what they have got right now, give us a look in the cupboard as to what is available, they don't want to get into that? ~ , , ., into that? well, the best thing to have in your _ into that? well, the best thing to have in your central _ into that? well, the best thing to have in your central government, j into that? well, the best thing to l have in your central government, it is zero. _ have in your central government, it is zero, because every single dose that has— is zero, because every single dose that has come into the country needs to be _ that has come into the country needs to be distributed back out again as fast as— to be distributed back out again as fast as possible. i ran campaigns when _ fast as possible. i ran campaigns when our— fast as possible. i ran campaigns when our objective at the end of every day— when our objective at the end of every day was to have zero stockholding. so the answer to your question. _ stockholding. so the answer to your question, the simple answer, would be zero _ question, the simple answer, would be zero the — question, the simple answer, would be zero. the real question is, how much _ be zero. the real question is, how much are — be zero. the real question is, how much are you _ be zero. the real question is, how much are you having come in every week— much are you having come in every week for— much are you having come in every week for the — much are you having come in every week for the next whatever number of weeks? _ week for the next whatever number of weeks? that is what you need to know and that _ weeks? that is what you need to know and that is— weeks? that is what you need to know and that is what needs to be fulfilled, and that is what is
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frequently difficult. it is going to uet frequently difficult. it is going to get easier. as manufacturers have more _ get easier. as manufacturers have more experience of producing these new vaccines in huge quantities, that experience will start to give you more — that experience will start to give you more certainty about supply. the early days _ you more certainty about supply. the early days are always the trickiest. professor. — early days are always the trickiest. professor, we know the government is doing research into the idea of what i will call mix and match. the idea that you get have one dose of one vaccine and a second dose of a second vaccine. tell us a little bit about that and what we may be second vaccine. tell us a little bit about that and what we may he know from previous working —— work in connection with vaccines? is it connection with vaccines? is it plausible? _ connection with vaccines? is it plausible? everyone _ connection with vaccines? is it plausible? everyone calls it mix—and—match, so i don't see a problem — mix—and—match, so i don't see a problem there. the reason for doing it is to _ problem there. the reason for doing it is to give — problem there. the reason for doing it is to give you some confidence that you — it is to give you some confidence that you are going to have more flexibility— that you are going to have more flexibility about the way in which you use — flexibility about the way in which you use your vaccines, so that if you use your vaccines, so that if you have — you use your vaccines, so that if you have got a surplus of one and you have got a surplus of one and you are _ you have got a surplus of one and you are looking towards a deficit of another, _ you are looking towards a deficit of another, then there is not a
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problem _ another, then there is not a problem. you can use either of them interchangeably. they are quite complicated studies to do because you have _ complicated studies to do because you have got to do one first as a person. — you have got to do one first as a person. the _ you have got to do one first as a person, the other first, you have to follow _ person, the other first, you have to follow people to make sure they make the right _ follow people to make sure they make the right antibody responses. there are scientific reasons to think that you might — are scientific reasons to think that you might getjust as good or possibly— you might getjust as good or possibly better, immune responses by usin- possibly better, immune responses by using a _ possibly better, immune responses by using a different vaccine first and second — using a different vaccine first and second. we have been through this on a number— second. we have been through this on a number of— second. we have been through this on a number of occasions with other vaccines — a number of occasions with other vaccines. part of the issue here though— vaccines. part of the issue here though is— vaccines. part of the issue here though is they are quite different. insofar— though is they are quite different. insofar as— though is they are quite different. insofar as the rna vaccines, the viral— insofar as the rna vaccines, the viral vaccines, where we have got a different _ viral vaccines, where we have got a different carrier virus. so they are different — different carrier virus. so they are different. they are important studies _ different. they are important studies. for me, the most important bit that— studies. for me, the most important bit that i_ studies. for me, the most important bit that i want to know about, looking — bit that i want to know about, looking towards the future, is going to be _ looking towards the future, is going to be about the ability of our
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vaccines— to be about the ability of our vaccines to protect us against variants _ vaccines to protect us against variants. in the longer term we may be having _ variants. in the longer term we may be having to — variants. in the longer term we may be having to think about our vaccines— be having to think about our vaccines like flu, were not only does _ vaccines like flu, were not only does it— vaccines like flu, were not only does it change every year, but we uet does it change every year, but we get four— does it change every year, but we get four different flu viruses in our vaccine. get four different flu viruses in ourvaccine. so get four different flu viruses in our vaccine. so we have to take a longer— our vaccine. so we have to take a longer view— our vaccine. so we have to take a longer view now. we've learnt an awful— longer view now. we've learnt an awful lot — longer view now. we've learnt an awful lot about the vaccines we are using _ awful lot about the vaccines we are using we — awful lot about the vaccines we are using. we need to look to the future — using. we need to look to the future. �* .., using. we need to look to the future. �* i. , using. we need to look to the future. �* ,, , . future. and can you give us a snapshot _ future. and can you give us a snapshot as _ future. and can you give us a snapshot as it _ future. and can you give us a snapshot as it stands - future. and can you give us a snapshot as it stands there i future. and can you give us a | snapshot as it stands there in future. and can you give us a - snapshot as it stands there in terms of what we do know, i mean, people may be becoming familiar with some of the variants that we already have, south africa, the uk variants...? i mean, are there many more that we already know something about that just haven't more that we already know something about thatjust haven't reached our shores? about that 'ust haven't reached our shores? ~ . ., , about that 'ust haven't reached our shores? ~ . . , �* ., shores? well, certainly in brazil there is a variant _ shores? well, certainly in brazil there is a variant that _ shores? well, certainly in brazil there is a variant that looks - shores? well, certainly in brazil there is a variant that looks as l shores? well, certainly in brazil| there is a variant that looks as if it is more — there is a variant that looks as if it is more distant in its change from. — it is more distant in its change from. for— it is more distant in its change from, for example the uk virus. and ithink— from, for example the uk virus. and i think we've — from, for example the uk virus. and i think we've got to really be
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prepared _ i think we've got to really be prepared for viruses to mutate. they do that— prepared for viruses to mutate. they do that all— prepared for viruses to mutate. they do that all the time. but to be mutating _ do that all the time. but to be mutating potentially away from our vaccines _ mutating potentially away from our vaccines and look towards the future, — vaccines and look towards the future, about how we can improve the protection _ future, about how we can improve the protection that we are going to get from our— protection that we are going to get from our vaccines against these different viruses. professor, always interesting talking to you. thank you for your time. professor david salisbury, the former director of immunisation at the department of health. reflecting on exactly where we are with the vaccination programme. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning. i'm sonja jessup. an inquiry into the crossrail project warns that a "forensic focus" will be needed if it's to be completed within its revised budget and timescale. the new railway is already more than two years late, and set to cost £4 billion more than originally planned. the london assembly transport committee has urged transport for london and the mayor to make sure past mistakes are not repeated.
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crystal palace football club is opening up to the public again, but as one of the latest nhs vaccination sites. the club's donated selhurst park in southeast london to the nhs. the glaziers lounge in the main stand has been adapted for nhs staff, volunteers and local residents who are having theirjab. as londoners continue life under a third lockdown, it's particularly hard for those who are more vulnerable to coronavirus. people like mark webb, who's had to shield because he has ms. he had this advice for anyone in a similar position. i think the most important thing is to look at yourself as much as look at others. are you all right really? are you doing enough to look after yourself? are you stepping away from work? because at the moment your commute might be from bed to table, and that is never healthy in the long term. and are you doing something outside of work?
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let's take a look at the travel situation now. on the tube, a number of trains have been cancelled which is having an impact— the district line has minor delays between earl's court and ealing broadway and richmond. the hammersmith and city line has severe delays. the dlr has minor delays because of a signal failure. there's been an accident on the a13. here's how it looks there. it's slow through barking towards the canning town flyover. in new southgate, there are delays westbound on the north circular from green lanes towards bounds green road because of works. and there are works still on the chelsea embankment. it's causing delays in both directions. now the weather with sara thornton. good morning. we start this morning with temperatures in low single figures, a dry one with some mist and murk around, and the odd mist and fog patch. it is a dry start to the day with some sunshine early on. later we see cloud moving in and some showery rain from the south and west,
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which could be heavy at times, with some hail and thunder mixed in. but temperatures above average. we keep the rain pulsing for a time through tonight, but it does clear away into the early hours of tomorrow morning. not too chilly a start tomorrow morning having had a early overnight rain. we go through the day tomorrow with dry weather, temperatures above par for the time of year, but the big story is the temperatures are really falling away, with some very, very cold weather moving in through the weekend, and particularly noticeable from sunday. with that we will have potentially some disruptive snow at times, lasting into next week. there's more from me in half an hour. plenty more on our website too. now it's back to charlie and naga. bye for now. hello.
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this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. we're on bbc one until 9.15 today, when morning live takes over. let's find out what's in store. coming up on morning live today, janette manrara is here to keep me company. nice to be here. on the swivel chair. nice to be here. on the swivel chair- have — nice to be here. on the swivel chair. have a _ nice to be here. on the swivel chair. have a good _ nice to be here. on the swivel chair. have a good swivel. - and dr xand is here too. i'll be shedding light on the latest claims that a runny nose, sore throat and headache could be added to the official list of covid symptoms. i'll also be answering your questions. so please get in touch. we're also talking about door to door testing. our roving reporter sabrina grant's been asking whether or not you think stricter lockdown restrictions should be imposed in the areas where the new covid variant is most common. and, if you're thinking of swapping city life for something more idyllic be careful, because apparently 40% of moves to the countryside result in people moving back.
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but chris bavin is here to tell us how to turn your dream into a reality and, more importantly, stop it turning into a nightmare! also on the menu today. our resident chef, anna haugh, reveals the superfoods that will boost your health and add loads of flavour to your dishes. and will be giving us a taste of what to expect from the brand new series of ready steady cook. and janette you'll be getting us all moving this morning with a strictly fitness workout. we will be focusing on the upper body, arms and posture. loath? we will be focusing on the upper body, arms and posture. why are you lookin: at body, arms and posture. why are you looking at me? _ body, arms and posture. why are you looking at me? just _ body, arms and posture. why are you looking at me? just saying _ body, arms and posture. why are you looking at me? just saying we - body, arms and posture. why are you looking at me? just saying we will- looking at me? just saying we will fix that today. _ looking at me? just saying we will fix that today. we _ looking at me? just saying we will fix that today. we will _ looking at me? just saying we will fix that today. we will see - looking at me? just saying we will fix that today. we will see you - looking at me? just saying we will fix that today. we will see you at| fix that today. we will see you at 915. a lot more foliage there than normal. i'm looking at a lot of greenery. t normal. i'm looking at a lot of greenery-— normal. i'm looking at a lot of ureene . ~ ,, , greenery. i think it is because he is so dark- _ greenery. i think it is because he is so dark- i _ greenery. i think it is because he is so dark. i am _ greenery. i think it is because he is so dark. i am bringing - greenery. i think it is because he is so dark. i am bringing them i greenery. i think it is because he i is so dark. i am bringing them out. a lot of greenery. _ is so dark. i am bringing them out. a lot of greenery. i _ is so dark. i am bringing them out. a lot of greenery. i genuinely - is so dark. i am bringing them out. a lot of greenery. i genuinely like i a lot of greenery. i genuinely like it. ~ , ., a lot of greenery. i genuinely like
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it. , ., , ., , a lot of greenery. i genuinely like it. we should get the shears out. what is going _ it. we should get the shears out. what is going on? _ it. we should get the shears out. what is going on? i _ it. we should get the shears out. what is going on? i am _ it. we should get the shears out. | what is going on? i am confused. it. we should get the shears out. i what is going on? i am confused. it looks like it must smell nice there with a lot of air. taste looks like it must smell nice there with a lot of air.— looks like it must smell nice there with a lot of air. we did have mark the garden — with a lot of air. we did have mark the garden are _ with a lot of air. we did have mark the garden are coming _ with a lot of air. we did have mark the garden are coming in - with a lot of air. we did have mark the garden are coming in on - with a lot of air. we did have mark| the garden are coming in on friday, so he helped us out. see the garden are coming in on friday, so he helped us out.— a decision to increase fuel bills for millions of households is expected this week, despite many more people falling behind on their payments during the pandemic. we know that so many people have been struggling in terms of the pandemic because they have been furloughed and are working in different ways and using more energy if you are working from home, so this will concern a lot of people. that's right, since march people have been working from home and more families are home—schooling, so consumption is going up and more people are struggling with their bills. good morning, everyone. the timing of this rise is controversial as we are talking about the energy price cap today. it was introduced two years ago to protect people from big price hikes. it's currentlyjust
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over £1000 a year. so if you get gas and electricity from the same supplier and use a typical amount of energy, this is the amount and the maximum price you are charged. this cap applies to standard or default tariffs and they are the companies most expensive deals, so the ones you go on to win the contract ends, so this cap applies to those who don't switch suppliers and that still around 11 million households and remember that this is a price cap, not a and remember that this is a price cap, nota bill cap, so if you and remember that this is a price cap, not a bill cap, so if you use more than a typical amount of energy, your bill will cost more and we've been speaking to lynn in glasgow who is working from home and has been keeping a close eye on her heating costs. has been keeping a close eye on her heating costs-— has been keeping a close eye on her heating costs. compared to last year it's between — heating costs. compared to last year it's between ten _ heating costs. compared to last year it's between ten and _ heating costs. compared to last year it's between ten and £15 _ heating costs. compared to last year it's between ten and £15 extra - heating costs. compared to last year it's between ten and £15 extra a - it's between ten and £15 extra a month— it's between ten and £15 extra a month and _ it's between ten and £15 extra a month and by the time i switched provider— month and by the time i switched provider it— month and by the time i switched provider it was i owed the previous company— provider it was i owed the previous company some money although normally i'm in credit— company some money although normally i'm in credit and ijust put that
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down — i'm in credit and ijust put that down to— i'm in credit and ijust put that down to being at home a lot more. so it's even— down to being at home a lot more. so it's even more — down to being at home a lot more. so it's even more important to switch provider— it's even more important to switch provider and try to get the best deat _ provider and try to get the best deat as— provider and try to get the best deat as i— provider and try to get the best deal. as i say, i'm trying not to switch — deal. as i say, i'm trying not to switch on — deal. as i say, i'm trying not to switch on heaters in rooms that are being _ switch on heaters in rooms that are being used. — switch on heaters in rooms that are being used, so reallyjust a room i am in _ being used, so reallyjust a room i am in all— being used, so reallyjust a room i am in all the — being used, so reallyjust a room i am in all the time and because i live alone — am in all the time and because i live alone i_ am in all the time and because i live alone i don't need to heat all of the _ live alone i don't need to heat all of the other rooms. i also find myself— of the other rooms. i also find myself putting on extra layers and going _ myself putting on extra layers and going for— myself putting on extra layers and going for a walk every lunchtime so by the _ going for a walk every lunchtime so by the time — going for a walk every lunchtime so by the time i come back i am warm, so that— by the time i come back i am warm, so that helps — by the time i come back i am warm, so that helps as well. so by the time i come back i am warm, so that helps as well.— so that helps as well. so what is happening _ so that helps as well. so what is happening this _ so that helps as well. so what is happening this week? _ so that helps as well. so what is happening this week? the - so that helps as well. so what is happening this week? the cap i so that helps as well. so what isj happening this week? the cap is expected to go up and the announcement will be made tomorrow morning and it will come into force in april and it could mean that those on default tariffs will pay at least £90 extra per year, so why is it going up? one reason is because of an increase in the wholesale energy costs, that is the amount suppliers pay to buy energy and another reason is bad debt. more than 2 million people are already
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behind on their energy bills and that number is rocketing since the start of the pandemic with an extra 600,000 households struggling. remember, to get the best energy deal, the answer, as always, is to shop around. but charities say they are increasingly worried about fuel poverty and people having to choose between heating and food. lots of you have been in touch about this this morning and thank you for your e—mails. i can read a couple about. clive e—mailed in to say he pays £175 a month for dual fuel with more than 70% of it being electricity. and he says even when everyone is out all day, the bill is still classed as higher than normal so he is confused about that. john has also been in touch to remind people that if you are working from home you can get a tax rebate, up to £6 a week. and rob says he is working from home since march and needs to keep the heating on for most of the
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day because he has got osteoarthritis and his monthly direct debit has gone up by £30 a month and his real worry is how much more it could go up by. and tomorrow i will be speaking to the regulator and energy companies will be putting some of those points to them. absolutely. every penny counts at this moment. thank you. we have a story of gladiatorial proportions for you now. it will make sense. when local radio presenter steve harris tweeted hollywood superstar, russell crowe, he didn't really expect a reply. the bbc radio solent host sent this tweet after an interview with british sailor pip hare, she'd told steve she was a big fan of the actor. a few hours after sending the tweet — he got this reply from russell — "what's up steve?" the presenter explained he wanted a special birthday message for pip, who is currently competing in a gruelling solo
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round the world yacht race. and... he obliged. hgppy happy birthday, it. i hear you are sailing around the world and just this morning i was sailing up cops creek which had a paddle which made it significantly easier and it's a similarjourney, i imagine. so i am just sitting here thinking about the incredible challenge in front of you and how overwhelming it must feel some days, butjust keep going. what an amazing feeling you are going to have when you can say you have claimed the globe. happy birthday. sail well. i claimed the globe. happy birthday. sail well. ~' ., , sail well. i think he was channelling _ sail well. i think he was channelling the - sail well. i think he was channelling the whole i sail well. i think he was - channelling the whole thing, the beard, channelling the whole thing, the heard, he was swaying, he was having it all going on and it's fair to say she was overjoyed and here is a reaction. she was over'oyed and here is a reaction. ., ~ , ., she was over'oyed and here is a reaction. ., ~ i. . she was over'oyed and here is a reaction. ., ~ . ., , reaction. thank you so much for my birthday message. _ reaction. thank you so much for my birthday message. you _ reaction. thank you so much for my birthday message. you have - reaction. thank you so much for my birthday message. you have no - reaction. thank you so much for my| birthday message. you have no idea what a _
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birthday message. you have no idea what a surprise and how great it was to receive _ what a surprise and how great it was to receive it — what a surprise and how great it was to receive it. i've been on my own for 87— to receive it. i've been on my own for 87 days — to receive it. i've been on my own for 87 days and it's just to receive it. i've been on my own for 87 days and it'sjust incredible to know— for 87 days and it'sjust incredible to know that there are people out there _ to know that there are people out there thinking about me, so hank you so much _ there thinking about me, so hank you so much. , ., ., so much. delighted to say that we can talk to — so much. delighted to say that we can talk to pip _ so much. delighted to say that we can talk to pip and _ so much. delighted to say that we can talk to pip and there - so much. delighted to say that we can talk to pip and there is - so much. delighted to say that we can talk to pip and there is a - so much. delighted to say that we | can talk to pip and there is a delay on the boat, so technology is great, but we have this delay on the boat. how long have you been sailing and how is it going?— how is it going? hello. i'm really nood, how is it going? hello. i'm really good. thank _ how is it going? hello. i'm really good, thank you. _ how is it going? hello. i'm really good, thank you. it _ how is it going? hello. i'm really good, thank you. it is _ how is it going? hello. i'm really good, thank you. it is still - how is it going? hello. i'm really good, thank you. it is still darkl good, thank you. it is still dark here and i am on day 88 and i've got just over 2000 miles left to go, so i'm about 1000 miles west of the azores now and hopefully later on this afternoon i will turn right and head over to france. flip.
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this afternoon i will turn right and head over to france.— head over to france. pip, talkers throuuh head over to france. pip, talkers through the _ head over to france. pip, talkers through the russell _ head over to france. pip, talkers through the russell crowe - head over to france. pip, talkers through the russell crowe thing. when did you start loving russell crowe and, given that you are such a big fan, what was it like, getting the message? the big fan, what was it like, getting the message?— big fan, what was it like, getting the message? big fan, what was it like, getting the messaue? , , ., the message? the russell crowe thing was all about — the message? the russell crowe thing was all about master _ the message? the russell crowe thing was all about master and _ the message? the russell crowe thing was all about master and commander. | was all about master and commander. it is a seafaring film and i loved it a lot. actually, no, i think a beautiful mind is one of my favourites, but in particular it is master and commanderfrom russell master and commander from russell crowe. master and commanderfrom russell crowe. it's been a favourite of mine, and i got the message yesterday, and it was really strange because i had no idea that steve would get this together for my birthday anyway and he was going to send me something on sunday, and i
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got sent this message and told i should look at it and fill myself, and i had absolutely no idea —— film myself. i am still a bit stunned by the whole thing. it was amazing, it was amazing, and hearing this voice just saying good luck to you and happy birthday was just incredible. it is lovely talking to you. can i ask you a favour? can you give us a guided tour of where you are geographically in the boat, and what is that dangling down just above you? is it a pretend parrot? what is going on? it you? is it a pretend parrot? what is auoin on? , you? is it a pretend parrot? what is rroin on? ,. , you? is it a pretend parrot? what is rroinon? , , , you? is it a pretend parrot? what is oin. on? ,., , , , ., going on? it is apparent, yes. hold on. iwill going on? it is apparent, yes. hold on- i will put— going on? it is apparent, yes. hold on. i will put the _ going on? it is apparent, yes. hold on. i will put the camera _ going on? it is apparent, yes. hold on. i will put the camera down - going on? it is apparent, yes. hold on. i will put the camera down and | on. i will put the camera down and if i can i will flip the screen round. no, ican't. if i can i will flip the screen round. no, i can't. we are in the living quarters of the boat which is 60 foot long but this, this is the
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sum total of where i have to live here. so, that's it. it's two metres by four metres and here, you can see, my instruments panel there where i control everything and my navigation i do there and this is my colleague parrot who has been around the world with the all the way and when it is wet her wings goes saggy and when it is hot, they are spread, because she is happy —— my poly parrot. the rest of it is such a black hole. if i want to get to the front of the boat, i have to climb through the hole there, which is just black and my cooker is here, so this is where i get the boiled water
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from my water tank and all of my kit and spares are all under there. flip. and spares are all under there. pip, listen, we sure _ and spares are all under there. pip, listen, we sure wish _ and spares are all under there. pip, listen, we sure wish you well for the rest of the journey. it's really gruelling and it's lovely to catch up gruelling and it's lovely to catch up with us and it's really odd that you are in the middle of the ocean we can talk to you and i'm sure that you were given a bit of a lift. and happy birthday for sunday. i hope you get to celebrate. i think there were problems with the picture because it was trying to catch up, but isn't it amazing what you can do, broadcasting inside a boat. and also the blow—up parrot, when the air pressure changes, the wings change. like a barometer. more than 500 people connected to the australian open, including 60 players have had to self—isolate after a hotel porter tested positive for covert 19.
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after a hotel porter tested positive for covert19. someone after a hotel porter tested positive for covert 19. someone desperate to play will be francesca jones and just reaching the tournament marks a remarkable stage an incredible journey. why? because francesca has a rare genetic condition as she was born with three fingers and thumb on each hand. sally has been up with her. fran has frozen. move a little bit. yes, got it. fran, it is lovely to see you and thank you for staying up a little bit late for us to talk to us from melbourne today. how excited do you feel going into the next few days? i feel going into the next few days? i really am looking forward to it. this is what you put yourself in these positions for, you want to play the big matches and be the big stage and of course there will be nerves but i know they will be there
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when i walk on the court, as long as the nerves are well—managed, they are the natural human reaction and i'm desperate to get out there and hopefully i can put my best performance on the court. does it feel a very — performance on the court. does it feel a very long — performance on the court. does it feel a very long way _ performance on the court. does it feel a very long way from - performance on the court. does it feel a very long way from being i performance on the court. does it feel a very long way from being a | feel a very long way from being a little girl in bradford who was sent off to tennis lessons because she had far too much energy? i off to tennis lessons because she had far too much energy? i always kee- that had far too much energy? i always keep that close _ had far too much energy? i always keep that close to _ had far too much energy? i always keep that close to my _ had far too much energy? i always keep that close to my heart - had far too much energy? i always keep that close to my heart but i l keep that close to my heart but i used to go to bradford girls grammar school and we were driving home from school and we were driving home from school and we were driving home from school and my dad was really busy in the summer and so was my mum and he needed to get rid of us and we drove past the tennis club in the next thing there was a massive banner on the front which said, summer camp, between eight and five and my dad literally swerved the car into the car park and signed us up in the next thing i knew i was on a tennis court. the magic started then. i don't know if you would call it magic. i have no idea what tennis
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was at that point. i was better than my sister who i don't think hit the ball in the whole month in the summer camp. but ball in the whole month in the summer camp-— ball in the whole month in the summercam.�* �* ., summer camp. but you didn't always have it easy. — summer camp. but you didn't always have it easy, because _ summer camp. but you didn't always have it easy, because you _ summer camp. but you didn't always have it easy, because you faced - have it easy, because you faced different challenges to the other kids on the court.— different challenges to the other kids on the court. yeah, i was born with the rare _ kids on the court. yeah, i was born with the rare condition _ kids on the court. yeah, i was born with the rare condition and - kids on the court. yeah, i was born with the rare condition and the - kids on the court. yeah, i was born with the rare condition and the way i see it is i was dealt a different set of cards but it never means that you cannot win the game with your cards, you just have to find a strategy that allows you to do so, just try to understand how i can create the best tennis player possible with my strengths and also improve any weaknesses i may have. how important are the support team that you have with you at the moment?— that you have with you at the moment? �* , . ., ., moment? i'm very lucky to have three ru s moment? i'm very lucky to have three guys around — moment? i'm very lucky to have three guys around me _ moment? i'm very lucky to have three guys around me in _ moment? i'm very lucky to have three guys around me in spain _ moment? i'm very lucky to have three guys around me in spain who - moment? i'm very lucky to have three guys around me in spain who worked l guys around me in spain who worked day in, day out with me, and i tell you, that's not an easyjob and i have a lot of support from the lta and i'm lucky to have the people
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around me that are constantly putting on the work to make me a better tennis player. did putting on the work to make me a better tennis player.— better tennis player. did you ever have doubts? _ better tennis player. did you ever have doubts? when _ better tennis player. did you ever have doubts? when you - better tennis player. did you ever have doubts? when you were - better tennis player. did you ever. have doubts? when you were little, was there ever a moment when your condition became a problem for you, and how did you overcome that? mr; and how did you overcome that? y’i brother and how did you overcome that? m brother was professional and how did you overcome that? m1 brother was professional sports instructor and when when we were there, he basically got me and my mum and we walked out the door and he looked at me and said, you can do whatever you want and you have, myself and your mother's100% support, and that is a moment that really meant a lot to me at the time. ~ ., ., really meant a lot to me at the time. . . . , ., ., really meant a lot to me at the i time-_ yeah- really meant a lot to me at the time. ~ ., ., , ., ., yeah. he time. what a brilliant dad. yeah. he has his moments. _ time. what a brilliant dad. yeah. he has his moments. do _ time. what a brilliant dad. yeah. he has his moments. do you _ time. what a brilliant dad. yeah. he has his moments. do you feel, - time. what a brilliant dad. yeah. he | has his moments. do you feel, when ou ste- has his moments. do you feel, when you step out — has his moments. do you feel, when you step out onto — has his moments. do you feel, when you step out onto that _ has his moments. do you feel, when you step out onto that court - has his moments. do you feel, when you step out onto that court like - you step out onto that court like you step out onto that court like you will be a role model and an inspiration may be for kids back at home who have been told that they can't do stuff? if home who have been told that they can't do stuff?— can't do stuff? if people can, even in the slightest, _ can't do stuff? if people can, even in the slightest, be _ can't do stuff? if people can, even in the slightest, be inspired - can't do stuff? if people can, even in the slightest, be inspired by - can't do stuff? if people can, even|
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in the slightest, be inspired by me, then that means a hell of a lot to me and i would be grateful, extremely grateful for that. it’s extremely grateful for that. it's rreat extremely grateful for that. it's r reat to extremely grateful for that. it's great to talk — extremely grateful for that. it's great to talk to you and the very, very best of luck, and will you keep in touch? , ., ., ., very best of luck, and will you keep in touch?— it's i very best of luck, and will you keep in touch?_ it's a l in touch? yes. thanks a lot. it's a rreat in touch? yes. thanks a lot. it's a great story- _ in touch? yes. thanks a lot. it's a great story- her— in touch? yes. thanks a lot. it's a great story. her success - in touch? yes. thanks a lot. it's a great story. her success is - great story. her success is fantastic, no matter what happens next, we will watch with interest to see what unfolds in australia and get on court because it is monday that it get on court because it is monday thatitis get on court because it is monday that it is supposed to start, there will be crowds as well and it will be an occasion. with spring just around the corner, you may have already started thinking about your garden and outdoor spaces. well, if you need any inspiration — you could get it from the bbc�*s latest series, 'your garden made perfect�*, where designers use virtual technology to help imagine the green space. let's take a look. shall we do it? let's go. it is so
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dull. 0h. _ shall we do it? let's go. it is so dull. oh. my — shall we do it? let's go. it is so dull. oh, my goodness. - shall we do it? let's go. it is so dull. oh, my goodness. wouldl shall we do it? let's go. it is so i dull. oh, my goodness. would you like to see — dull. oh, my goodness. would you like to see what _ dull. oh, my goodness. would you like to see what i _ dull. oh, my goodness. would you like to see what i have _ dull. oh, my goodness. would you like to see what i have designed i dull. oh, my goodness. would you| like to see what i have designed for you? _ like to see what i have designed for you? definitely. let's go for it. here _ you? definitely. let's go for it. here we — you? definitely. let's go for it. here we go. 0h, hello. oh, hello. oh, my goodness. it is so warm and inviting. he has rone full it is so warm and inviting. he has gone full on _ it is so warm and inviting. he has gone full on that, _ it is so warm and inviting. he has gone full on that, hasn't - it is so warm and inviting. he has gone full on that, hasn't he? - it is so warm and inviting. he has| gone full on that, hasn't he? with its flashes of orange and red, swaying bamboo and shinto style archway, he has clearly headed east for his garden inspiration. joining us now are angela scanlon, presenter
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of your garden made perfect — and alsojoel bird who's one of the designers this series. good morning to you both. good morninr. good morning to you both. good morning- hi. _ good morning to you both. good morning. hi, jol? _ good morning to you both. good morning. hi, jol? hi, _ good morning to you both. good morning. hi, jol? hi, angela. i good morning to you both. good. morning. hi, jol? hi, angela. you 'ust talk, morning. hi, jol? hi, angela. you just talk. you _ morning. hi, jol? hi, angela. you just talk. you guys. _ morning. hi, jol? hi, angela. you just talk, you guys, a _ morning. hi, jol? hi, angela. you just talk, you guys, a new- morning. hi, jol? hi, angela. you just talk, you guys, a new cracki morning. hi, jol? hi, angela. you i just talk, you guys, a new crack on. it's lovely. angela, catch up with jol, talk about what you are doing. i can't see him. does he have a heart on? ifeel like he is the best dressed landscape gardener. his style is impeccable. he kicked it up a notch. , ., ,, , style is impeccable. he kicked it up anotch. , a notch. joel, you better say something — a notch. joel, you better say something nice _ a notch. joel, you better say something nice now. i a notch. joel, you better say something nice now. angelaj a notch. joel, you better say i something nice now. angela is the rreatest something nice now. angela is the greatest presenter _ something nice now. angela is the greatest presenter on _ something nice now. angela is the greatest presenter on television i greatest presenter on television i’llht greatest presenter on television right now. greatest presenter on television rirht now. ., ., ~' greatest presenter on television rirht now. ., ., ~ , ., ., ,, right now. look, we should talk about the _ right now. look, we should talk about the programme, i right now. look, we should talk about the programme, and i right now. look, we should talk- about the programme, and angela, i had a couple of questions. when these gardens are transformed and people get to see them with the virtual reality, do they then go and
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get their garden is made up like that? in get their garden is made up like that? ., , , , that? in real life, yes. it is the sister show — that? in real life, yes. it is the sister show to _ that? in real life, yes. it is the sister show to the _ that? in real life, yes. it is the sister show to the one i that? in real life, yes. it is the sister show to the one where l that? in real life, yes. it is the i sister show to the one where you go outside on each couple will get two designs presented in virtual reality and essentially get to stand in the finnish design imagined by our designers and they get to choose one and rebuild it.— and rebuild it. angela, i have a question- _ and rebuild it. angela, i have a question- . _ and rebuild it. angela, i have a question. , do _ and rebuild it. angela, i have a question. , do you _ and rebuild it. angela, i have a question. , do you know- and rebuild it. angela, i have a i question. , do you know anything about gardening? i question. , do you know anything about gardening?— question. , do you know anything about gardening? i have learned how to kee- a about gardening? i have learned how to keep a cheese _ about gardening? i have learned how to keep a cheese plant _ about gardening? i have learned how to keep a cheese plant alive, i about gardening? i have learned how to keep a cheese plant alive, and i to keep a cheese plant alive, and i've been told you cannot kill them. but it is false, they are temperamental, like all plants but i have a new—found respect and awe when it comes to gardening. i’m have a new-found respect and awe when it comes to gardening. i'm not sure if that — when it comes to gardening. i'm not sure if that is _ when it comes to gardening. i'm not sure if that is an _ when it comes to gardening. i'm not sure if that is an answer _ when it comes to gardening. i'm not sure if that is an answer to - when it comes to gardening. i'm not sure if that is an answer to the i sure if that is an answer to the question, is it? joel, does angela know anything about gardening? you
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know, it know anything about gardening? you know, i try to avoid the subject, 'ust know, i try to avoid the subject, just in— know, i try to avoid the subject, just in case _ know, i try to avoid the subject, just in case she can't get over herself — just in case she can't get over herself. �* , ~' ., herself. it's like interviewing a politician- _ herself. it's like interviewing a politician. come _ herself. it's like interviewing a politician. come on, _ herself. it's like interviewing a politician. come on, tell- herself. it's like interviewing a politician. come on, tell me, i herself. it's like interviewing a i politician. come on, tell me, what is your thing politician. come on, tell me, what is yourthing in politician. come on, tell me, what is your thing in terms of your design style?— is your thing in terms of your desirns le? . , ., ., design style? well, the programme has these amazing, _ design style? well, the programme has these amazing, extravagant, i has these amazing, extravagant, wonderful— has these amazing, extravagant, wonderful gardens on display, the like you _ wonderful gardens on display, the like you have never seen on a makeover— like you have never seen on a makeover show before but we also have these — makeover show before but we also have these budget gardens, and that is where _ have these budget gardens, and that is where i_ have these budget gardens, and that is where i come in. so i'm trying to show— is where i come in. so i'm trying to show that— is where i come in. so i'm trying to show that if— is where i come in. so i'm trying to show that if you just follow a few basic _ show that if you just follow a few basic design rules and have a little bit of— basic design rules and have a little bit of imagination, you can create a nice space — bit of imagination, you can create a nice space for yourself, your own paradise — nice space for yourself, your own paradise without spending these vast amounts _ paradise without spending these vast amounts of money, so i'm a bit
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different— amounts of money, so i'm a bit different to _ amounts of money, so i'm a bit different to the other designers. you are — different to the other designers. you are the perfect person to talk to this morning because we have been talking about higher energy bills and people being concerned about budgets and people being furloughed but because they are spending a lot of time at home. if you had a budget tip with someone sitting at home, working from home and they have half an hour to make a little tweak to the garden to make them happier, what would you say? i the garden to make them happier, what would you say?— the garden to make them happier, what would you say? i think one of the thinrs what would you say? i think one of the things that _ what would you say? i think one of the things that i _ what would you say? i think one of the things that i try _ what would you say? i think one of the things that i try to _ what would you say? i think one of the things that i try to say i what would you say? i think one of the things that i try to say is i what would you say? i think one of the things that i try to say is to i the things that i try to say is to simplify. — the things that i try to say is to simplify, always simplify your garden — simplify, always simplify your garden and simplify anything in designi — garden and simplify anything in design, simplify your life if you can, _ design, simplify your life if you can, so— design, simplify your life if you can, so it's _ design, simplify your life if you can, so it's about doing one or two things— can, so it's about doing one or two things and — can, so it's about doing one or two things and being extravagant with those _ things and being extravagant with those things. one thing i like to do is create _ those things. one thing i like to do is create a — those things. one thing i like to do is create a nice little seating area in the _ is create a nice little seating area in the best— is create a nice little seating area in the best place in the garden where — in the best place in the garden where the sun catches and you get some _ where the sun catches and you get some plants around you and that is one of— some plants around you and that is one of the — some plants around you and that is one of the most valuable things a human— one of the most valuable things a human can — one of the most valuable things a human can do, to be able to sit in
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their— human can do, to be able to sit in theirown— human can do, to be able to sit in theirown garden. the human can do, to be able to sit in their own garden. the other tip is to watch— their own garden. the other tip is to watch this programme, i suppose, because _ to watch this programme, i suppose, because there is everything you need in it. do _ because there is everything you need in it. , ., because there is everything you need in it. ,, . because there is everything you need in it. ., ., ., ,, because there is everything you need init. ., ., ., ,, , in it. do you want to talk us through. — in it. do you want to talk us through, because _ in it. do you want to talk us through, because joel i in it. do you want to talk us through, because joel was i in it. do you want to talk us i through, because joel was talking through, becausejoel was talking about seating in the garden, so what kind of seeds would you go for if you're choosing one? —— kind of seats. i you're choosing one? -- kind of seats. ~' , , ., seats. i think it depends on personal— seats. i think it depends on personal taste _ seats. i think it depends on personal taste and i seats. i think it depends on personal taste and that i seats. i think it depends on personal taste and that is l seats. i think it depends on i personal taste and that is what has been a revelation to me and a lot of us consider a garden a formulaic thing where you spread out a loan and you put borders in and it is done, but actually the approach with this show is looking at the garden as an extension of your home and i think it's more relevant now than it ever has been and we are all bulging out of our houses and looking at each other 20 47 and getting a bit antsy and if we are lucky enough to have a green space out time —— outside, orany have a green space out time —— outside, or any space,
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have a green space out time —— outside, orany space, it have a green space out time —— outside, or any space, it is often vacant for the few days of the year that we might have the look of a bit of sunshine and if we can consider what we need is a family, is it a big area for the kids or a seating area, we want to do and tonight's episode is a family with three kids, beautiful house and if they go outside they are stumped and they have an awkward garden, but it is just sitting there empty and wasted, so considering it like another room where they can spill out, where it is inviting enough for them to go out, so thinking as a family what you want, is it a big lounge seat, do you like a couch? a bench is beautiful if you want a coffee in the morning. it can be a stomp, if you don't have the budget, a stump of a tree. ., ., ., of a tree. nothing wrong with that. nothinr of a tree. nothing wrong with that. nothing wrong _ of a tree. nothing wrong with that. nothing wrong with _ of a tree. nothing wrong with that. nothing wrong with sitting i of a tree. nothing wrong with that. nothing wrong with sitting on i of a tree. nothing wrong with that. nothing wrong with sitting on a i of a tree. nothing wrong with that. | nothing wrong with sitting on a tree stump. it makes you feel like you are with nature.— are with nature. totally and it's more about _ are with nature. totally and it's more about finding _ are with nature. totally and it's more about finding those i are with nature. totally and it's
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more about finding those little | more about finding those little pockets and areas asjoel said, where the sun rises, whatever you are into and creating a little place to pause. are into and creating a little place to rause. ~ , are into and creating a little place to rause. , ., ,, are into and creating a little place to rause. ~ , ., ,, are into and creating a little place to rause. , . ~' ., to pause. absolutely. thank you for our to pause. absolutely. thank you for your expertise _ to pause. absolutely. thank you for your expertise and _ to pause. absolutely. thank you for your expertise and joel, _ to pause. absolutely. thank you for your expertise and joel, thank i to pause. absolutely. thank you for your expertise and joel, thank you i your expertise and joel, thank you for the hat, lovely seeing you. your garden made perfect�* starts tonight at 8pm on bbc two. you are watching breakfast, it is 859.
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