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after its rather fiery online meeting went viral, has been back in business tonight. handforth parish council was preparing to debate planning matters this evening, but as our north of england correspondentjudith moritz discovered, the council more than lived up to its reputation for vigorous debate. chair, i'm speaking, chair. with respect, chair, i'm still speaking. a parish council meeting on a wet wednesday isn't usually gripping viewing, but this isn'tjust any parish council meeting. we are trying to do handforth parish council business. it's no strasbourg or westminster, but handforth is on the international political map, or at least it has been, since its council planning committee went viral. will you please let. the chairman speak? you have no authority here, - jackie weaver, no authority at all. she's kicked him out. as blockbusters go, the infamous handforth parish council meeting didn't know if it was a drama or a farce.
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either way, its sequel has been hotly anticipated. the meeting was open to the public and it's fair to say the turnout was higher than usual. you probably don't want to appear in an andrew lloyd webber musical playing the part ofjulie�*s ipad. the lead character, jackie weaver, didn't have a part this time around, but other favourites did appear. 0h, he's disappeared. i'll mute myself. you'll be banned to peru, if you're not careful. tonight's meeting descended into similar barracking again. ..we were simply following standing orders and protocol. the meetings were illegal. but councillors tried to get through business as usual. 20/5446m. some found it funny. others, quite the opposite. i've just removed them. whether democratic or dysfunctional, like so many sequels, it probably wasn't as good as the original. i declare the meeting closed. judith moritz, bbc news.
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the many perils of parish councils! hello, i'm tulsen tollett and this is your sports news where we start hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the broadcaster henry bonsu and former trade minister, digbyjones. tomorrow's front pages starting with... hello, digby. hello, henry. hope you are all right- — the guardian focuses on new research showing that covid infections have fallen by two—thirds in a month in england, but the virus is now spreading
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most amongst children. the telegraph reports how parents will be asked to test children for covid twice a week, alongside a picture of prince philip who's been admitted to hospital "as a precautionary measure", after feeling unwell for a few days. "we must take prudent steps to freedom" says the express. in reporting borisjohnson�*s "data, not dates" rationale for planning an exit from lockdown. "small steps to normal life" is the mirror's headline as the paper reports how health chiefs have urged the prime minister not to relax restrictions too quickly. "£4,500 to get covid" is metro's headline on the world's first study, in which people will be deliberately infected with covid—19. it begins in the uk within a month. the ft examines the content deal agreed with google and rupert murdoch's news corp — ending a long—running dispute with big tech companies over paying forjournalistic content — as facebook blocks internet links in australia.
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so let's begin... asi as i say, lovely to have you both with us tonight. this wednesday evening and we are going to start with the telegraph which like many of the papers it's featuring the duke of edinburgh who has been taken to hospital in london after feeling unwell. but buckingham palace stressing this is just a precaution. we are all wishing him the very best. , , ., , ., . best. oh, yes. for every watching toniuht best. oh, yes. for every watching tonight we — best. oh, yes. for every watching tonight we all— best. oh, yes. for every watching tonight we all send _ best. oh, yes. for every watching tonight we all send him _ best. oh, yes. for every watching tonight we all send him our- best. oh, yes. for every watching tonight we all send him our very l tonight we all send him our very best_ tonight we all send him our very best wishes for a speedy recovery or whatever_ best wishes for a speedy recovery or whatever it — best wishes for a speedy recovery or whatever it is that most people are thinking _ whatever it is that most people are thinking in — whatever it is that most people are thinking injune he will be 100, and wouldn't _ thinking injune he will be 100, and wouldn't that be a wonderful achievement and what a great morale boost _ achievement and what a great morale boost for— achievement and what a great morale boost for the nation coming out of all of— boost for the nation coming out of all of this— boost for the nation coming out of all of this mess. i saw nicholas witchel— all of this mess. i saw nicholas witchel do his report on the main new5, _ witchel do his report on the main news, and — witchel do his report on the main
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news, and he said that he is feeling from _ news, and he said that he is feeling from the _ news, and he said that he is feeling from the palace, and that will be little _ from the palace, and that will be little bits— from the palace, and that will be little bits and bobs he's picked up with one — little bits and bobs he's picked up with one or two off the record conversations can the thing that could _ conversations can the thing that could journalist do, he said he's not any— could journalist do, he said he's not any feeling of alarm. that there's— not any feeling of alarm. that there's no— not any feeling of alarm. that there's no feeling of people really worried, _ there's no feeling of people really worried, so i take confidence in that _ worried, so i take confidence in that. clearly something is wrong, so we wish _ that. clearly something is wrong, so we wish him — that. clearly something is wrong, so we wish him well. he that. clearly something is wrong, so we wish him well.— we wish him well. he was feeling unwell enough _ we wish him well. he was feeling unwell enough as _ we wish him well. he was feeling unwell enough as a _ we wish him well. he was feeling j unwell enough as a precautionary measure. back injanuary we unwell enough as a precautionary measure. back in january we found out that the queen and the duke received the vaccinations committed palace stressing this is not covid related. . , palace stressing this is not covid related. ., , ., ., related. indeed, and they would have received as vaccinations _ related. indeed, and they would have received as vaccinations because - received as vaccinations because they would have been in the top tier of the most vulnerable people over 85 a. interesting you say. the duke would be the last person to welcome
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this and i saw a whale biographer saying he's a no nonsense guy, very straight shooting, he would not want all of this. it would be embarrassed. but when you are 99 just short of your centenary than anything can be mild when you were 20 or 30 or a0 years younger can be serious. thus the last ten years. the telegraph pointed out he set a number of ailments, he spent a few nights in the king edward hospital in december 2019 for a pre—existing condition. he's had a number of ailments previously in december 2011 and a member he was not able to fully take part in the queens diamond jubilee celebrations because of a bladder infection, so he's as tough as old boots but when you are 99 you are 99. tough as old boots but when you are 99 you are 953-— 99 you are 99. yes, an incredible thou~ht 99 you are 99. yes, an incredible thought that _ 99 you are 99. yes, an incredible thought that in _ 99 you are 99. yes, an incredible thought that in just _ 99 you are 99. yes, an incredible thought that in just a _ 99 you are 99. yes, an incredible thought that in just a few - 99 you are 99. yes, an incredible| thought that in just a few months' time he will turn 100. digby, henry
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pointed out that a few years ago he spent a few nights in the same hospital. again, this time around we know he did neck by ambulance, he walked to the hospital and as henry was pointing out he will hate all of this farce. , ., , this farce. yes, i had the privilege of sittin: this farce. yes, i had the privilege of sitting next _ this farce. yes, i had the privilege of sitting next to _ this farce. yes, i had the privilege of sitting next to him _ this farce. yes, i had the privilege of sitting next to him on - this farce. yes, i had the privilege of sitting next to him on one - this farce. yes, i had the privilege of sitting next to him on one of. this farce. yes, i had the privilege l of sitting next to him on one of two occasions _ of sitting next to him on one of two occasions and absolutely no fuss individual — occasions and absolutely no fuss individual. just inquiring mind and someone — individual. just inquiring mind and someone that was interested and interesting. and he's the last one that wants — interesting. and he's the last one that wants to be talked about on the bbc news _ that wants to be talked about on the bbc news channel tonight. well let's sto - bbc news channel tonight. well let's sto then. bbc news channel tonight. well let's stop then- wish _ bbc news channel tonight. well let's stop then. wish them _ bbc news channel tonight. well let's stop then. wish them all— bbc news channel tonight. well let's stop then. wish them all the - bbc news channel tonight. well let's stop then. wish them all the best i stop then. wish them all the best that we will stop. the phrase that being said is an abundance of caution, so this is a precautionary measure. the rest in the best of luck and we are going to stop
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fussing come we are going to stay with the daily telegraph because the papers pointing out that parents are being asked to test children for covid twice a week with schools only having some mass checks. it will covid twice a week with schools only having some mass checks.— having some mass checks. it will be hue having some mass checks. it will be huge pressure _ having some mass checks. it will be huge pressure on — having some mass checks. it will be huge pressure on the _ having some mass checks. it will be huge pressure on the government i having some mass checks. it will be | huge pressure on the government to get children back to school and we are hearing that's going to be from the 8th of march, but not everybody will go at the same time because you need to stagger the return to school to maintain social distancing. out of an to maintain social distancing. out ofan abundance, to maintain social distancing. out of an abundance, you might say, of precaution. a battle going on between the government and the unions the largest union representing secondary heads and other units have been saying while we don't want to turn schools into battlefield hospitals with the army coming and doing tests, or teachers in the front lines during the test. that's the compromise come when children go back for the first time you will have that one test, but beyond that there will be tested at
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home using the lateral flow tests which would be rolled out in huge scale around a00,000 or so. the big question is whether or not parents and children themselves can do this properly because there's a high failure rate of false positives, even when they're administered by professionals. that's the big question, will it work and can children return to school safely because there's huge pressure on the government to make sure that this happens it smoothly without increasing risks because we are concerned with the mental health and future academic and social potential of children. bud future academic and social potential of children. �* ., of children. and the not the most leasant of children. and the not the most pleasant think _ of children. and the not the most pleasant think about _ of children. and the not the most pleasant think about how - of children. and the not the most pleasant think about how to - pleasant think about how to administer this test is not the nicest thing to stick down your throat and tickle your tonsils or up your nose, all of those parents thinking about having to do this. it's all something else. fin thinking about having to do this. it's all something else.— thinking about having to do this. it's all something else. on the bit confused, really. _ it's all something else. on the bit confused, really. i— it's all something else. on the bit
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confused, really. iwas_ it's all something else. on the bit confused, really. i was talking - it's all something else. on the bit confused, really. i was talking to | it's all something else. on the bit| confused, really. i was talking to a couple _ confused, really. i was talking to a couple of _ confused, really. i was talking to a couple of friends just confused, really. i was talking to a couple of friendsjust by birmingham earlier— couple of friendsjust by birmingham earlier about this and they were saying _ earlier about this and they were saying that what we expected to do? what will _ saying that what we expected to do? what will be precisely that which will he _ what will be precisely that which will be judged? and henry hasjust said they— will be judged? and henry hasjust said they are not the world so if you leave — said they are not the world so if you leave it to parents that are in a rush. _ you leave it to parents that are in a rush. most— you leave it to parents that are in a rush, most are in a rush getting their— a rush, most are in a rush getting their kids — a rush, most are in a rush getting their kids to — a rush, most are in a rush getting their kids to school anyway, we lived _ their kids to school anyway, we lived a — their kids to school anyway, we lived a children which thought is even _ lived a children which thought is even less— lived a children which thought is even less reliable. with great respect — even less reliable. with great respect to kids are not sure i would rely on _ respect to kids are not sure i would rely on that — respect to kids are not sure i would rely on that. and they may not understand. it's shared by an awful lot of— understand. it's shared by an awful lot of people watching tonight, and i lot of people watching tonight, and i object _ lot of people watching tonight, and i object to— lot of people watching tonight, and i object to trade unions politicising any think of as serious as this _ politicising any think of as serious as this but— politicising any think of as serious as this. but i don't understand the objection. — as this. but i don't understand the objection, and harry mentioned this, what's _ objection, and harry mentioned this, what's wrong with the army carrying out these _ what's wrong with the army carrying out these tests, or the navy or air force _ out these tests, or the navy or air force. what's wrong with the military— force. what's wrong with the
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military being brought into so much of the _ military being brought into so much of the problems and delivery mechanisms of dealing with this pandemic? they deal with crises, they deal— pandemic? they deal with crises, they deal with doing things under fire. that's what they are good at. i've fire. that's what they are good at. we never— fire. that's what they are good at. i've never understood, all throughout this why we did not involve — throughout this why we did not involve the military more. there might— involve the military more. there might be — involve the military more. there might be a — involve the military more. there might be a good reason but i can't see what— might be a good reason but i can't see what i— might be a good reason but i can't see what i can't do it. set it up in the playground from the kids would quite enjoy it i would think. not the test. — quite enjoy it i would think. not the test, but i do mean it will be different— the test, but i do mean it will be different and novel, a guy in uniform _ different and novel, a guy in uniform and all of that stuff, and i don't _ uniform and all of that stuff, and i don't understand why people like trade _ don't understand why people like trade unions in the left, say battlefield playground what rubbish. henry— battlefield playground what rubbish. henry come back in, i can sense you are reaching to. i’m henry come back in, i can sense you are reaching to-_ are reaching to. i'm never been a teacher or— are reaching to. i'm never been a teacher or a _ are reaching to. i'm never been a teacher or a trade _ are reaching to. i'm never been a teacher or a trade unionist, - are reaching to. i'm never been a teacher or a trade unionist, i'm l are reaching to. i'm never been a teacher or a trade unionist, i'm a j teacher or a trade unionist, i'm a member of a union, probably like you. but i think it was that the teachers were thinking about safety first for their teachers, that was
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the first concern because obviously there on the front line and if as we hear children are being spread about, will go more into detail about, will go more into detail about that, they were concerned about that, they were concerned about operationally because not many schools have huge amounts of space in which to socially distance and to prep encampment whereby they can have hundreds of children at any one time having these lateral flow tests. i think that was part of it. he touch up on the next story that we want to focus on, over infections following but it's this younger children primary age children that the growth is going up, this is a study from imperial college london and just talk us through that. what
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and 'ust talk us through that. what is and just talk us through that. what is the relief — and just talk us through that. what is the relief is _ and just talk us through that. what is the relief is that _ and just talk us through that. what is the relief is that the _ and just talk us through that. what is the relief is that the seven day average — is the relief is that the seven day average on — is the relief is that the seven day average on new cases and new infections. — average on new cases and new infections, 70 average in hospitalisation, 70 average in the tragic— hospitalisation, 70 average in the tragic death that happened all over going _ tragic death that happened all over going in_ tragic death that happened all over going in the right direction, so what _ going in the right direction, so what i'm — going in the right direction, so what i'm about to say is not stopping _ what i'm about to say is not stopping any of that, and we should be grateful for that. but the worrying factor of this imperial college — worrying factor of this imperial college survey is that from a wrong word survey, the analysis of data is that probably the new strain and new characteristic of existing virus is attending — characteristic of existing virus is attending younger, much younger children— attending younger, much younger children and easily transmissible between — children and easily transmissible between them, a lot of them are not showing _ between them, a lot of them are not showing symptoms, they asymptomatic and then— showing symptoms, they asymptomatic and then of— showing symptoms, they asymptomatic and then of course they can spread it back— and then of course they can spread it back into— and then of course they can spread it back into the community with people — it back into the community with people who will get ill through this, _ people who will get ill through
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this, hopefully not die but they would — this, hopefully not die but they would have been almost a silent transmitter of this because they will not — transmitter of this because they will not show any symptoms and it's really— will not show any symptoms and it's really hitting the young of our society— really hitting the young of our society in _ really hitting the young of our society in a way that has not done before _ society in a way that has not done before forever. so the worrying factor _ before forever. so the worrying factor of — before forever. so the worrying factor of this is not right now, it's the — factor of this is not right now, it's the implication in consequence two weeks — it's the implication in consequence two weeks out, through beaks out, four weeks— two weeks out, through beaks out, four weeks out, and if that will be at the _ four weeks out, and if that will be at the same time as a release of the restrictions— at the same time as a release of the restrictions coming out of lockdown, then you _ restrictions coming out of lockdown, then you would hope that you are not going _ then you would hope that you are not going to _ then you would hope that you are not going to have borisjohnson is terrified — going to have borisjohnson is terrified about which is up and down, — terrified about which is up and down, up _ terrified about which is up and down, up and down. back into lockdown— down, up and down. back into lockdown and that's the last thing they want. and therefore it's almost dealing _ they want. and therefore it's almost dealing with an unknown here, if i may quote, — dealing with an unknown here, if i may quote, it's a known unknown and that's— may quote, it's a known unknown and that's a _ may quote, it's a known unknown and that's a hit— may quote, it's a known unknown and that's a hit of— may quote, it's a known unknown and that's a bit of a worry. i
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may quote, it's a known unknown and that's a bit of a worry.— that's a bit of a worry. i was wondering _ that's a bit of a worry. i was wondering where _ that's a bit of a worry. i was wondering where this - that's a bit of a worry. i was wondering where this was i that's a bit of a worry. i —" wondering where this was happening. if it's following, the rate of transmission, infections and every other age category apart from primary school and early secondary school children, what is actually happening? because we are not meant to be going to other peoples houses, not mixing, could it be that there is a significant number of children at the age were still going to school? maybe the children of key workers they're going to school now than during the first lockdown, that's worrying when you consider that's worrying when you consider that we are going to send children back to school from the 8th of march. it to be hypervigilant and hyper cautious. the parents of children aged between six and 13 are going to be young. going to be in their a0s or at their oldest early 50s. and there will be among the latter adults to get the vaccine so we need to be cautious.
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