good morning, welcome to breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. our headlines today. buckingham palace remains silent 2a hours after the first broadcast of harry and meghan�*s oprah interview. but in the us, friends of the couple rally round. their cruelty in going after meghan was just outrageous. a lawyer for anne sacoolas, the american woman who caused the death of harry dunn in 2019, has explained why she is not willing to stand trial in the uk. the daughter of former scotland, manchester united and leeds footballer gordon mcqueen speaks for the first time since her father was diagnosed with dementia.

there have been moments where i'm like, god, i can't believe the thing that gave him so much love has now so cruelly taken a lot of him away from us. it comes as a parliamentary inquiry is launched into the links between sport and long—term brain injury. how scammers�* success spread with the virus. tens of millions have been stolen over the past year as fraudsters cash in on people feeling vulnerable, and working from home. we look at ways to stay protected. good morning. it is a cold and clear start to the day across southern areas. in the west, more clout and patchy rain travelling east through the day but later more persistent rain and strengthening winds arrive in the west leading us into a very unsettled couple of days and nights. it's tuesday 9th march. our top story. the royal family remains silent more than 2a hours after the duke

and duchess of sussex's explosive interview with oprah winfrey. in the broadcast, watched by millions worldwide, meghan raised allegations of racism and a lack of support from within the institution. keith doyle has more. viewers in the uk got to watch the full interview last night and the fallout this morning is nuclear. the headlines could not be worse for the palace. turmoil and crisis. they are no less forgiving on the other side of the atlantic. tonight, oprah's interview with the duke and duchess of sussex just aired for the first time in the uk. now britain braces for fallout. despite being previewed, teased and dominating the news, the claims made and heard in the context of the full two hour interview are still able to shock. claims that meghan was driven close to suicide and that a member of the royal family discussed the skin colour of the duke and duchess�*s soon—to—be born child.

in those months when i was pregnant, all around this same time, so we have in tandem the conversation of, he won't be given security, he's not going to be given a title. and also, concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he's born. what? throughout the interview, the picture painted was one of an uncaring and unsupportive institution, at odds with the image of being at the head of a multicultural country and commonwealth. in america, this summer, wejust went through the black lives matter movement and the killing of george floyd. now, what we see, when we see this monarchy, we see an institution that we revere, and then we find out that you guys have the same issues of racial and racism, systemic racism, that we do in the united states. so, yes, it does hurt us. it almost seems like a fairy tale shattered for many of us.

overnight there's been no comment from buckingham palace which is sure to be reeling from such explosive claims by those at the very heart of the royal family. all eyes and the media spotlight is on here today to see how or if it responds. i don't see buckingham palace as being like the kremlin. on the whole, they are a very civilised organisation. but i also don't think that they are likely to engage in this kind of war between two parties which of course the tabloid press would greatly enjoy. the harry and meghan love story was a fairy tale, and brought young, modern vitality into the royal family. this interview has brought up real issues that can't easily be ignored. security, mental health and trust. just a few years on from the fairy tale, and for buckingham palace, all that has turned to crisis management on an epic scale. keith doyle, bbc news. and there's also been reaction to the interview from the white house and former

secretary of state hillary clinton. our washington correspondent lebo disekojoins us now from the us capital. it is clear this conversation will continue for some time will stop yeah, this interview aired last night here. it yeah, this interview aired last night here-— yeah, this interview aired last niuht here. .,, , ., ., night here. it has been more than 24 hours since — night here. it has been more than 24 hours since it — night here. it has been more than 24 hours since it went _ night here. it has been more than 24 hours since it went out _ night here. it has been more than 24 hours since it went out and _ night here. it has been more than 24 hours since it went out and still - night here. it has been more than 24 hours since it went out and still it - hours since it went out and still it makes headlines. by far and large one of the biggest talking point has been the allegations of racism, particularly concerning harry and meghan's child. i think that a lot of people have been asking what this says about race and race relations within the uk more widely, and how far we may have to go in the uk. i think in contrast to some of the coverage i have seen from the uk media, over here, meghan and harry did receive a fairly sympathetic audience and also meghan's experience particularly as a woman

of colour has been believed. also as she spoke about her experiences or revealed that she had felt suicidal, that has been by and large believed. this received record viewing figures, more than 17 million people tuned in to watch and it has been streamed as well. and even as you mentioned in the intro, it came up in the white house, the press secretary was asked about it at a briefing, she was quite diplomatic and tried to be quite careful about what she said but have a listen to her comments.— what she said but have a listen to her comments. meghan markle is a rivate her comments. meghan markle is a private citizen, _ her comments. meghan markle is a private citizen, and _ her comments. meghan markle is a private citizen, and so _ her comments. meghan markle is a private citizen, and so is _ her comments. meghan markle is a private citizen, and so is harry - her comments. meghan markle is a private citizen, and so is harry at i private citizen, and so is harry at this point — private citizen, and so is harry at this point. for anyone to come forward — this point. for anyone to come forward and speak about their own struggles — forward and speak about their own struggles with mental health and tell their own personal story, that takes _ tell their own personal story, that takes courage and that is something the president believes. he had talked — the president believes. he had talked about the importance of committing to investment in these areas _ committing to investment in these areas that— committing to investment in these areas that they have talked about in

the future — areas that they have talked about in the future. ,., , ., areas that they have talked about in the future. , ., , ., the future. somebody who spoke out in a far less — the future. somebody who spoke out in a far less diplomatic— the future. somebody who spoke out in a far less diplomatic way _ the future. somebody who spoke out in a far less diplomatic way is - in a far less diplomatic way is hillary clinton. she said she was disappointed at the way that the royal family, disappointed at the way that the royalfamily, the institution had treated meghan, and also spoke about the behaviour of the british press who she called outrageous. their cruel in who she called outrageous. their cruelty in going _ who she called outrageous. their cruelty in going after _ who she called outrageous. their cruelty in going after meghan was 'ust cruelty in going after meghan was just outrageous. and the fact she did not— just outrageous. and the fact she did not get more support, that the reaction _ did not get more support, that the reaction was, let'sjust paper it over_ reaction was, let'sjust paper it over and — reaction was, let'sjust paper it over and pretend that it didn't happen, — over and pretend that it didn't happen, or it will go away, just keep— happen, or it will go away, just keep your— happen, or it will go away, just keep your head down, well, this young _ keep your head down, well, this young woman was not about to keep your head _ young woman was not about to keep your head down, this is 2021. | your head down, this is 2021. think the your head down, this is 2021. i think the reaction overall has been that this does not look great for the british royal family. that this does not look great for the british royalfamily. one network repeatedly calling this kryptonite for them. i have spoken to a number of americans who said,

as was reflected in the report that we had just now, that when meghan married into the royalfamily, they thought that this was a family that was modernising and british society was modernising and british society was modernising. and the fact that it is turned out this way raises questions about where we are in the uk as a society now.— uk as a society now. thank you very much for talking _ uk as a society now. thank you very much for talking to _ uk as a society now. thank you very much for talking to us. _ the american woman accused over the death of harry dunn would be willing to do community service and make a "contribution" in his memory, according to her lawyer. 19—year—old harry died when his motorcycle was involved in a collision with a car near raf croughton in 2019. anne sacoolas, who was driving the car, later returned to her home in the united states and claimed dimplomatic immunity. her lawyer has told the bbc she won't return to the uk to stand trial. this kind of an accident, had it occurred in the united states, would not be prosecuted criminally. so in the united states, these cases are only prosecuted where there is evidence

of recklessness that rises to the level of close to intent. so drunk driving, distracted driving, or a hit—and—run situation, or excessive speeding. but there was none of that here. we will get reaction from harry dunn's family later in the programme. sports coaches and priests who have sexual relationships with 16 and 17—year—olds could soon be breaking the law, under government plans to close a controversial legal loophole in england and wales. it's one of a number of new crime measures being introduced in parliament today, including tougher sentences for murderers. our home affairs correspondent, june kelly, reports. ellie gould was 17 when her life was taken by a former boyfriend after she ended their brief relationship. her killer, thomas griffiths, was the same age and a fellow student. he went to ellie's home and stabbed her repeatedly with a kitchen knife. griffiths was sentenced to a minimum of 12 and a half years. ellie's mum, carol, is relieved that

under the new measures, griffiths won't be able to have his sentence reviewed. it's a huge relief to us as a family because it means in four years' time we don't have to go through the anguish of writing a victim impact statement and worrying that he could potentially get his sentence reduced. at least we know, at least for the next ten years, he will remain behind bars. the measures being introduced today are being billed as a justice overhaul, and one of the areas they're focusing on is the protection of young people from sexual predators. while the age of consent is 16, in future, sports coaches and faith leaders who have sexual relationships with 16 and 17—year—olds in their care will be breaking the law. they'll be under the same rules as teachers or social workers. it will make a significant difference in terms of the confidence that young people can have that adults in positions

of power and authority over them can't take advantage of those positions of authority to engage in sexual relations with them. so it's a really important protective measure. and as part of the shake—up, police will have greater powers to restrict nonviolent protests described as disrupting the public, or access to parliament. the human rights organisation liberty said the new powers risked stifling dissent. june kelly, bbc news. one of world's biggest beauty manufacturers has promised to stop digitally altering images of their models in its advertising. unilever, which owns the brands dove and lynx, says it will stop airbrushing body shape and skin colour from now on. the company has also pledged to no longer use the word normal on packaging and adverts for all its beauty and personal care brands. detectives investigating the disappearance of a woman missing since wednesday say they remain

"open minded as to all possibilities." 33—year—old sarah everard was last spotted on cctv walking alone in clapham in south london. police say they have received more than 100 calls from the public and are continuing their inquiries. several meteorite fragments have been recovered from a fireball that lit up the sky over southern england at the end of last month. a man in gloucestershire first alerted experts after noticing a pile of charred stone in his driveway. other members of the public have since come forward with their own finds. it's 30 years since meteorite material was last retrieved in the uk. if you are wondering what it looks like, that is a chunk of it. apparently they got lots of photographs of blackstone is that this is actually a bit of a meteorite. let's catch up with the weather.

good morning, both of you. today's weather is fairly quiet for most of us for much of the day but after that things will liven up, we are in for a spell of very unsettled weather, strong winds and heavy rain. the strongest winds are likely to be tomorrow night into thursday morning. what we have this morning are clear skies across the south midlands and southern england, so some frost first thing but some sunshine. towards the west, a week where the front with patchy rain is moving eastwards. —— a week where the front. we are going to see some strengthening winds with this, these are the gusts you can expect, in excess of 40 miles an hour. through the evening, we will have gusts higher than that, potentially disruptive and they get disrupted

through the night. cooler conditions behind, wintry showers on the tops of the hills and mountains. tomorrow that wayne does not really clear england and wales, and other batches coming in hot on its heels and it is going to be another windy day. to give you an idea of the gusts, 40 to 50 miles an hour, for some of us with exposure, it will be more than that. as we go through wednesday night into thursday morning, 70 miles an hour on the coasts, inland, 60 miles an hour. so anchor down your wheelie bins! willa brick on top be enough? it depends where you are, in the outer hebrides, probably not. irate depends where you are, in the outer hebrides, probably not.— hebrides, probably not. we don't need flying _ hebrides, probably not. we don't need flying bricks, _ hebrides, probably not. we don't need flying bricks, do _ hebrides, probably not. we don't need flying bricks, do we! - hebrides, probably not. we don't need flying bricks, do we! thank| need flying bricks, do we! thank ou, for need flying bricks, do we! thank you. forthat- — hayley mcqueen, the daughter of former scotland and manchester united footballer gordon mcqueen, has spoken to breakfast for the first time about her dad's

dementia diagnosis. sally's here to tell us more. good morning. gordon mcqueen is the latest in a number of retired sportsmen who have been diagnosed with dementia and hayley has chosen to speak about it now. gordon mcqueen was known for his no—nonsense approach to the game and indeed his bravery in the air. back then he didn't know the risks that came with heading the ball. today, mps will discuss the long—term effects of sporting head injuries and it is something his family are passionate about raising awareness of. they noticed a change in gordon some time ago but his dementia diagnosis is still very recent. you will recognise his daughter hayley, who is a well known sports journalist and broadcaster for sky television. here she describes the man who was always life and soul of any party. everyone's dad, are, you know, their hero. i didn't realise he was other

people's hero as well. i don't think i really understood quite what he did until i was about maybe eight or nine. mcqueen! there have been moments where i'm like, god, i can't believe the thing that gave him so much love has now so cruelly taken a lot of him away from us. hatley, you only very recently made the statement about your dad's diagnosis of vascular dementia. how is your dad at the moment? yeah, i think he's ok. every day is different, we take each day as it comes. but he knows he's got dementia and he knows there's something different about himself. he talks about feeling different and that he can't think straight sometime. what were the circumstances of his diagnosis? did you have to persuade him to go and have to talk to someone,

or did you get to a point where... no, he started to ask, when am i going to get this sorted, when am i getting better, when is someone going to fix my head? we were kind of hoping that it wouldn't be dementia but i think we all knew that it probably was. he'd said a few years back, if ever i have alzheimer's, dementia, i just don't want to know. but he actually did want to know what was wrong with him because he wanted to try and understand. and maybe trying to work with others to make sure that the next generation of footballers are not in this situation, that families aren't going through this. sport and football, you enter into it thinking it's going to physically and mentally better me. it's going to prolong my life. you don't think at 60 odd years old, you're going to have brain damage from something that you love. look at the leap by mcqueen. looking back now at your dad's career and the time he played, all those headers, when you first suspected there was something wrong, did you immediately think, it's connected to football? no, no. i don't think i realised how much my dad used his head. i didn't realise that it was over and over and over, every day in training for years and years.

he said he wouldn't take back any of his goals or any of the headers that he remembered so fondly, but he said maybe he would have done things differently in training had they been warned. but you can't get angry about that. there is no one to blame, they weren't to know, but we know now and someone will be to blame if we don't do something about it. we've seen so much in the press, haven't we, recently, about former footballers who have been affected by dementia and jack charlton, who so bravely spoke about his own battle with dementia. jack looked after him, took him under his wing. my dad was brought into leeds united to be a replacement. he was like, "god. how am i going to fill the boots of jack charlton?" it's horrible to think where that has led now, but you have to think about the happy times and memories when leeds united were an amazing team. it's a really important day today. we are seeing the dcms starting to talk about this officially. is there an assurance you're looking for? yeah, i think there needs to be changes in the law within football

governing bodies as to how much a player heads the ball, and notjust at under 11 level. it needs to be right through the professional game. sunday league football needs to know about it, everybody needs to know about it. there are lots of footballers out there right now probably thinking, is it me next? is it going to be me? mcqueen! really, really powerful words there from the lovely hayley mcqueen, thank you to hayley and all of her family for sharing her their story and today is an important day because they feel they can use their name, the fame that their dad has had, to maybe help other people with the start of this government inquiry which starts with this committee today. very interesting, thank you very much. let's take a look at today's papers.

no surprise that most of this morning's papers are leading on the harry and meghan interview. "just the four of us now" is the front page headline of the metro which has a black and white photograph of the couple with their son archie. the family portrait, taken after their interview with oprah, was released to mark the news that the couple's second child will be a girl. the guardian's headline says "buckingham palace is in crisis" following the allegation of racism made during meghan and harry's interview. the daily telegraph reports that us presidentjoe biden watched meghan and harry's interview and was "impressed by the duchess's disclosures about her mental health". that was a quote from his press officer. and finally the washington post also has the story on its front page reporting the explosive interview indicates that racism lingers in the royal family. we saw so many of you will have watched what was said in the interview last night which was on

british television until, well, it was very late for me.— british television until, well, it was very late for me. there are ”aes was very late for me. there are pages and _ was very late for me. there are pages and pages _ was very late for me. there are pages and pages and _ was very late for me. there are pages and pages and pages - was very late for me. there are | pages and pages and pages and was very late for me. there are - pages and pages and pages and pages and pages and pull outs and more pages in most of the paper this morning. dissecting every sentence, everything that was said. of course a lot of people talking about the fact that there is still no response from buckingham palace as yet. if there is anything during this programme we will bring it to you and we will continue to cover that story over the next few days. let’s story over the next few days. let's talk about a _ story over the next few days. let's talk about a great _ story over the next few days. let's talk about a great escape. - story over the next few days. let's talk about a great escape. it - story over the next few days. let's talk about a great escape. it is just a kind of fun story from the daily mail. you have to follow this story carefully, it is a picture story. up here, we have killer whales, on the hunt for a penguin, here is the penguin. it is trying to escape. obviously in a very precarious situation. luckily the penguin sees a tourist dinghy, and leaps onto the tourist dinghy, to

escape from the awk killer whales. hand down a tiny bit, you can see it. there he is!— it. there he is! clearly very, very delighted- _ it. there he is! clearly very, very delighted. that _ it. there he is! clearly very, very delighted. that is _ it. there he is! clearly very, very delighted. that is how _ it. there he is! clearly very, very delighted. that is how you - delighted. that is how you p-p-p-pick delighted. that is how you p—p—p—pick a penguin! delighted. that is how you p-p-p-picka penguin! thank delighted. that is how you p-p-p-pick a penguin! thank you for smiling awkwardly at me there! i have a picture for you. this is a picture in the telegraph, just another animal picture, a camel, and another animal picture, a camel, and a little dung beetle. the camel is resting its head, taking a close look at a dung beetle as it takes the opportunity to clear up after... i don't know if it came from the camel. this was taken in north—west india, in the thar desert.

scams, maybe you've been targeted? perhaps a suspicious phone call or maybe a dodgy text asking you to transfer money or hand over bank details. but fraudsters are getting more savvy and the pandemic has provided a new way for them to make money. nina's here with more. i have seen a lot of these coming through on e—mail, text message and phone calls. it is happening a lot at the moment?— phone calls. it is happening a lot at the moment? , . ., , at the moment? yes, the pandemic has resented at the moment? yes, the pandemic has presented more — at the moment? yes, the pandemic has presented more opportunities _ at the moment? yes, the pandemic has presented more opportunities for - presented more opportunities for scammers to have a go. we are talking about fraud, and in particular so called "trusted authority scams." that's when criminals pose as institutions we know, like hmrc, your bank or royal mail. since last march hmrc say they've detected 42! covid—related scams, with fake texts being one of the most prevalent problems. they've also forced 400 websites to close which were trying to fool people into thinking they could get help with money problems related to coronavirus.

the number of scams where criminals pose as trusted organisations doubled in 2020 with more than 39,000 cases. and it's big money we're talking about. £150 million has been taken from british bank accounts meaning each person lost an average of almost £4,000. so what can you do to protect your money? alex neil is the boss at consumer group resolver. they've seen a big spike in people asking for their help with fraud cases. the key things are to have a look. if it's an e—mail or a text, how legitimate does this really feel? so does it have the correct spelling and punctuation and grammar? some scams that are not that sophisticated, you can see that straightaway. if the branding is incorrect, or indeed if the contact details aren't right. or are a bit vague. that can often be a sure sign of a scam.

the other big tip to be honest is just go with your gut. if you've got somebody on the phone and they're making you feel uncomfortable or anxious in any way, that is often a sign of a scam. what they're trying to do is to rush you into giving out information, often bank details or personal information, that you wouldn't ordinarily do. so if you feel that way, just stop the conversation. i think the other thing is that people on the phone, if they have called up out of the blue and you weren't expecting it and it feels threatening or rushed, again, just take a moment, puts the phone down and call those organisations back directly because you should then be able to have the same conversation but with the security of knowing who you are actually talking to. so, basically, if it feels dodgy, as we always say, it probably is. working from home, you are more likely to have your mobile and less likely to have your mobile and less likely to have your mobile and less likely to be around people you can bounce off and say, this feels

weird. there are more people online shopping for the first time so they are vulnerable as well. hmrc and banks say, please let us know if this happens to you and that gives them more tools to spite them. thank you very much, sorry, i would just putting my breakfast away, nobody saw!— just putting my breakfast away, nobody saw! just putting my breakfast away, nobod saw! ., ., ., nobody saw! oh, what have you got toda ? nobody saw! oh, what have you got today? porridge, _ nobody saw! oh, what have you got today? porridge, overnight- nobody saw! oh, what have you got today? porridge, overnight oats. if| today? porridge, overnight oats. if ou can't today? porridge, overnight oats. if you can't start _ today? porridge, overnight oats. if you can't start the _ today? porridge, overnight oats. if you can't start the day _ today? porridge, overnight oats. if you can't start the day with - you can't start the day with overnight oats, you are not having a proper start with the day, morning all. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. concerns have been raised about the future of london zoo, which has been closed for the first time since world war one because of the pandemic. millions of pounds have been lost in ticket sales over the last 12 months. it was hoped it could reopen in time for easter, but under current plans zoos will be shut until at least the 12th of april. over the easter period we're due to lose over £2 million of revenue

that we're expected to take. it does have a massive impact, if you think about how long we've been closed over the past year. i'm really worried now that if we don't start getting visitors back in, we can't survive. the nightingale hospital in east london, set up to treat covid—19 patients, will close next month. the 4,000—bed facility at the excel centre in docklands was one of seven similar hospitals opened in response to the pandemic. the nhs says they were the "ultimate insurance policy", and the one in london will stay open for vaccinations. the pandemic has highlighted the issue of loneliness in london. all this week, we're looking at the difference the community has made on the alton estate in roehampton. one charity working in the area says those in need of support because they're isolated, has increased in the last year. regenerate rise now helps hundreds of older people on the estate. you've got to stay positive, you know. otherwise you're really

down in the doldrums. and if it wasn't for regenerate and people like tony, you know, i'd feel completely cut off. let's take a look at the travel situation now. on the tube sthere are minor delays on the circle, and hammersmith and city line. the metropolitan line is part suspended. turning to the roads, in hanworth there's a lane closed for roadworks in both directions on great chertsey road near the hospital bridge roundabout. the m25 is down to one lane clockwise from junction 29 for romford tojunction 30 for lakeside — that's after a crash and for some road repairs. now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello, good morning. it's all change tomorrow, when it's going to be very wet and windy. but for today, a fairly pleasant day of weather ahead for early spring. we start off with temperatures above freezing, so it's not as chilly as it was this time yesterday. a bit of cloud milling around this morning, but that will thin and break. we'll see some decent spells of sunshine emerge. sunny spells again this afternoon,

and the winds will start by the time we get to the end of the day. top temperatures in double figures again, slightly higher than yesterday's, 11 or 12 degrees celsius, that's 54 in fahrenheit. now through this evening and overnight, the cloud is going to thicken from the west. it'll feel milder, but the wind picks up further and there'll be outbreaks of rain moving eastwards into the start of the day tomorrow. so it's really a wet start to the morning. and it's going to stay wet all day. there'll be some heavy downpours of rain through the day on wednesday. some strong, gusty winds. there's a met office weather warning in place for the strength of the winds on wednesday night into thursday. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. coming up on breakfast this morning... the daughter of the former manchester united footballer,

gordon mcqueen, has spoken for the first time about her dad's heart—breaking dementia diagnosis. sally has more after eight. with more than 112,000 care vacancies in england, we'll find out about a new campaign — backed by some famous faces — encouraging people to join the sector. and ever wondered what it feels like to hold a meteorite? we speak to one of the scientists studying fragments recovered from the fireball which lit up uk skies last week. ten months ago, jake vujovic almost died from coronavirus, and was in hospitalfor107 days. he's now recovering, but suffers from debilitating fatigue. jake is one of a growing number of people who struggle to shake off symptoms weeks and months after contracting the virus. our medical editor fergus walsh reports.

my chances to survive covid were very, very low. i'm much, much stronger now. jake vujovic feels he's been given a second chance at life. he almost died last year, spending three weeks on a ventilator. covid ravaged his body, damaging his lungs and his limbs. ten months on, the 56—year—old has only partially recovered. my feet are still paralysed and basically, i can't go will anywhere without crutches. it's quite risky. the other thing which still remains is a fatigue. it's something that, itjust hits you from nowhere. it's all so unpredictable. jake spent 107 days in five different hospitals before being discharged.

you say that you're returning to work. how has that been for you this week? he's still under the care of the rehab team at london's university college hospital, which has a growing list of long covid patients. patients with covid are suffering with extreme and really debilitating levels of fatigue, breathlessness and cognitive issues. actually seeing them with such long term disabilities, an effect of that is... ..yeah, it's awful. it's harrowing. knowing how close they were to losing him, jake's family simply appreciate having him home. just the fact that he's next to me, that you are sitting next together and talking, and the family has a father, and that we are family again, i think that's the best of everything. i think as a family we have actually grown closer due to this. _ in a way, i'm grateful because, you know, we are more -

close than before. it could be 18 months before jake knows if he'll walk again without crutches. he remains resilient and optimistic. i do believe that one day i will be back completely, 100%. my leg will recover, my feet will recover, my brain will recover. and i will be old jake, working full time, enjoying the life, going out and not be limited by anything. that was jake vujovic ending that report there from our medical editor fergus walsh. let's get more on this from one of our regular gps, dr rosemary leonard. good morning. he is not alone. how much can you _ good morning. he is not alone. how much can you tell— good morning. he is not alone. how much can you tell us _ good morning. he is not alone. how much can you tell us about - good morning. he is not alone. how much can you tell us about long - much can you tell us about long covid? there are still so many things we don't know. this

covid? there are still so many things we don't know.- covid? there are still so many things we don't know. this is such a new disease- _ things we don't know. this is such a new disease. certainly _ things we don't know. this is such a new disease. certainly people - things we don't know. this is such a new disease. certainly people who l new disease. certainly people who have been— new disease. certainly people who have been ventilated can be severely affected _ have been ventilated can be severely affected by it. they need a long rehabilitation process. we have also seen in _ rehabilitation process. we have also seen in younger people who have actually seemingly had a fairly mild covid, _ actually seemingly had a fairly mild covid, who— actually seemingly had a fairly mild covid, who have been left with ongoing — covid, who have been left with ongoing symptoms of cough, fatigue. the other— ongoing symptoms of cough, fatigue. the other thing i hear that a lot is brain— the other thing i hear that a lot is brain fog, — the other thing i hear that a lot is brain fog, they can't concentrate. it brain fog, they can't concentrate. it can— brain fog, they can't concentrate. it can have — brain fog, they can't concentrate. it can have a _ brain fog, they can't concentrate. it can have a profound effect on your— it can have a profound effect on your ongoing life. we are still learning — your ongoing life. we are still learning how best to treat this. the national— learning how best to treat this. the national institute of clinical excellence recently put out some guidelines for us. they mentioned multidisciplinary teams, lots of different— multidisciplinary teams, lots of different teams of different specialists working together to help people _ specialists working together to help people affected by long covid. in the meantime, can you say when people come to you with these kind of problems? we people come to you with these kind of problems?— people come to you with these kind of problems? we expect people who have had covid _ of problems? we expect people who have had covid to _ of problems? we expect people who have had covid to have _ of problems? we expect people who have had covid to have symptoms i have had covid to have symptoms ongoing _ have had covid to have symptoms ongoing for about a month. but after that, if— ongoing for about a month. but after that, ifthey— ongoing for about a month. but after that, if they have still got a symptoms, we started checking if

there _ symptoms, we started checking if there is— symptoms, we started checking if there is anything else on the could be adding — there is anything else on the could be adding to it, are they anaemic? do they— be adding to it, are they anaemic? do they have a thyroid problem? i have _ do they have a thyroid problem? i have they— do they have a thyroid problem? i have they got diabetes? we do a blood _ have they got diabetes? we do a blood test. after that is a question of supporting them as best as we can _ of supporting them as best as we can. �* , . ~' of supporting them as best as we can. 2 ., ~ ., ,. ,. can. let's talk about schools. we note so many _ can. let's talk about schools. we note so many pupils _ can. let's talk about schools. we note so many pupils went - can. let's talk about schools. we note so many pupils went back i can. let's talk about schools. we | note so many pupils went back to schools in england, many of them having tests particularly secondary schools. some parents, their children are not having tests. what you say about that?— you say about that? certainly the schools are _ you say about that? certainly the schools are doing _ you say about that? certainly the schools are doing tests. - you say about that? certainly the schools are doing tests. if - you say about that? certainly the schools are doing tests. if you i you say about that? certainly the l schools are doing tests. if you can .et schools are doing tests. if you can get your— schools are doing tests. if you can get your head around doing the test, it is very— get your head around doing the test, it is very helpful. it is a hassle, no doubt — it is very helpful. it is a hassle, no doubt i_ it is very helpful. it is a hassle, no doubt. i have got so used to doing _ no doubt. i have got so used to doing them, twice a week now to be surgery. _ doing them, twice a week now to be surgery. as — doing them, twice a week now to be surgery, as are all health professionals, and it's not nice as taking _ professionals, and it's not nice as taking a _ professionals, and it's not nice as taking a swab up your nose and your eyes water— taking a swab up your nose and your eyes water and you pull a funny face _ eyes water and you pull a funny face but— eyes water and you pull a funny face. but you get used to it. try to .et face. but you get used to it. try to get into— face. but you get used to it. try to get into the — face. but you get used to it. try to get into the habit of doing it. if we do — get into the habit of doing it. if we do identify children who are feeling — we do identify children who are feeling perfectly well, but have a symptomatic infection, we can stop

the spread — symptomatic infection, we can stop the spread. we symptomatic infection, we can stop the sread. ~ ., ~ ., the spread. we talk about the vaccines every _ the spread. we talk about the vaccines every day _ the spread. we talk about the vaccines every day and - the spread. we talk about the vaccines every day and more i the spread. we talk about the - vaccines every day and more people getting them. where are you with vaccines in your surgery? we getting them. where are you with vaccines in your surgery?- vaccines in your surgery? we are callin: vaccines in your surgery? we are calling our— vaccines in your surgery? we are calling our over _ vaccines in your surgery? we are calling our over 50-year-olds. i vaccines in your surgery? we are | calling our over 50-year-olds. 50 vaccines in your surgery? we are i calling our over 50-year-olds. 50 to calling our over 50—year—olds. 50 to 55-year-old — calling our over 50—year—olds. 50 to 55—year—old is going really well. everybody — 55—year—old is going really well. everybody is busy. maybe the vaccinators are getting tired. we hope _ vaccinators are getting tired. we hope for— vaccinators are getting tired. we hope for a — vaccinators are getting tired. we hope for a break at the end of the month _ hope for a break at the end of the month. then we will start on the main _ month. then we will start on the main bulk— month. then we will start on the main bulk of the second doses. it is ongoing _ main bulk of the second doses. it is ongoing lt— main bulk of the second doses. it is onauoin. , ., ,.,, main bulk of the second doses. it is onauoin. , ., , . main bulk of the second doses. it is onauoin. , ., , ~ ., main bulk of the second doses. it is onuuoin. , ., , . ., ., ongoing. it is nonstop. we also want to talk to you — ongoing. it is nonstop. we also want to talk to you about _ ongoing. it is nonstop. we also want to talk to you about concerns - ongoing. it is nonstop. we also want to talk to you about concerns about | to talk to you about concerns about women not being able to get various tests, including smear tests and breast screening. what can you tell us? ., , ., , , us? one of the problems with the smear tests _ us? one of the problems with the smear tests is _ us? one of the problems with the smear tests is that _ us? one of the problems with the smear tests is that while - us? one of the problems with the smear tests is that while the - smear tests is that while the practice _ smear tests is that while the practice nurses, who are such an important — practice nurses, who are such an important part of the vaccine workforce, while they are giving vaccines — workforce, while they are giving vaccines all day, they can't be doing — vaccines all day, they can't be doing smear tests. we are aware there _ doing smear tests. we are aware there is— doing smear tests. we are aware there is a — doing smear tests. we are aware there is a backlog of smears. where do we _ there is a backlog of smears. where do we put _ there is a backlog of smears. where do we put people? we need some people _ do we put people? we need some people vaccinating but we also need some _ people vaccinating but we also need some of— people vaccinating but we also need some of our nurses doing smears.

they— some of our nurses doing smears. they can't— some of our nurses doing smears. they can't be in two places at once. breast— they can't be in two places at once. breast screening, we now know that it would _ breast screening, we now know that it would one point 2 million women between _ it would one point 2 million women between march and december, numbers were down— between march and december, numbers were down by1.2 between march and december, numbers were down by 1.2 million. the screening _ were down by 1.2 million. the screening services were shut for a while _ screening services were shut for a while they— screening services were shut for a while. they are no reopening but only working at 60% capacity because of social— only working at 60% capacity because of social distance and cleaning up everything afterwards. it is reckoned that about 11,000 women have had _ reckoned that about 11,000 women have had a — reckoned that about 11,000 women have had a missed diagnosis of breast— have had a missed diagnosis of breast cancer since march last year. again, _ breast cancer since march last year. again, there— breast cancer since march last year. again, there were always going to be non-covid _ again, there were always going to be non—covid health harms from this pandemic — non-covid health harms from this andemic. ., . ~ non-covid health harms from this andemic. ., ., ~ ., pandemic. you talk about the backlou . pandemic. you talk about the backlog. when _ pandemic. you talk about the backlog. when could - pandemic. you talk about the backlog. when could that - pandemic. you talk about the | backlog. when could that ever pandemic. you talk about the - backlog. when could that ever be caught up? it backlog. when could that ever be cau~ht u - ? , backlog. when could that ever be caught up?— backlog. when could that ever be cau~-htu? , ., ., caught up? it is going to take time. interestingly. _ caught up? it is going to take time. interestingly. l _ caught up? it is going to take time. interestingly, i had _ caught up? it is going to take time. interestingly, i had my— caught up? it is going to take time. interestingly, i had my letter- caught up? it is going to take time. interestingly, i had my letter for i interestingly, i had my letter for my breast — interestingly, i had my letter for my breast screening and i went online — my breast screening and i went online last night to book an appointment, no appointments available. then it said, phone us.

but we _ available. then it said, phone us. but we have — available. then it said, phone us. but we have disruption on our phone lines _ but we have disruption on our phone lines i_ but we have disruption on our phone lines i have — but we have disruption on our phone lines. i have no idea when i am going _ lines. i have no idea when i am going to — lines. i have no idea when i am going to actually get my breast screening, even though i received the letter~ — screening, even though i received the letter. ., , , ., �* screening, even though i received the letter. ., , the letter. you probably won't be alone in that. _ the letter. you probably won't be alone in that. doctor _ the letter. you probably won't be alone in that. doctor rosemary i alone in that. doctor rosemary leonard, thank you for your time. 38 minutes past six. tuesday morning. _ your time. 38 minutes past six. tuesday morning. study - your time. 38 minutes past six. tuesday morning. study is - your time. 38 minutes past six. tuesday morning. study is with | your time. 38 minutes past six. i tuesday morning. study is with us. she has got a fantastic interview with the daughter of gordon mcqueen later on. but also, quite a bit of sport to mop up for last night —— from last night? sport to mop up for last night -- from last night?— sport to mop up for last night -- from last night? another win for chelsea keeps them in the champions league places. they beat everton 2—0 at stamford bridge. the visitors fell behind in unfortunate fashion, when ben godfrey deflected kai havertz�*s effort into his own net. jorginho's penalty in the second half means it's now 11 unbeaten for manager thomas tuchel. we're chasing our own benchmark and we need to be ready again next saturday, i think, against leeds. does not stop. and this is also good,

because i feel that the group is ready and this is the next challenge, and in the end, the fixture takes care about itself and the results come from performance. and so we rely on this. west ham are chasing a top four place as well. a 2—0 win over leeds means they leapfrog everton into fifth, two points behind chelsea and with a game in hand. aberdeen are on the hunt for a new manager this morning, after parting ways with derek mcinnes. he was the scottish premiership's longest serving manager, but after eight years at pittodrie, and with the team fourth in the table, he's leaving, thanking supporters, players and the board for their backing. the team gb women's football team will be led by interim england manager hege riise this summer. riise is leading the england side on a temporary basis before netherlands boss sarina wiegman takes over in september. the norwegian's appointment will be confirmed later this week.

novak djokovic has beaten roger federer�*s record for most weeks as world number one. this is the 311th week he's been on top of the rankings. djokovic has won 18 grand slams. his great rivals roger federer and rafa nadal both have 20. and after over a year out injured, federer returns to tennis this week at the qatar open. what roger is doing still, you know, at his age is something that is very inspirational for me and many other tennis players. it's great to see him back. and i think, you know, the time is coming closer where the three of us will have to be replaced with the new leaders of the men's game. hopefully, that's not going to happen sooner, but later. and then we're going to make sure that that happens as late as possible. but it's inevitable. england rugby world cup winner heather fisher says losing her hair has been difficult enough, without having to deal with people's reactions.

she started to notice her hair was going back in 2010, and was diagnosed with alopecia. fisher has said she dreads using public toilets because she is frequently mistaken for a man. i get told, "oh, this is a female toilet, get out". and in some cases, which i spoke about, i've been literally prodded with a broomstick to get out of the toilet, and i've had an actual hand come round trying to push me out of the toilet, trying to push the door open. it's really knocked my confidence as a human being, just because i've lost my hair through stress, and just because i choose to play sport and i've got muscles. it's really, really taken a toll out of me. and ifeel like i have to explain myself everywhere i go. that full interview with heather is all over bbc sport on the website today. really interesting saying she has to always have someone with her when they go on tour to provide reassurance and back up in any difficult situations to get into.

good on herfor talking about it though. thank you. good on her for talking about it though. thank you.— good on her for talking about it though. thank you. there is a lot of wind on the — though. thank you. there is a lot of wind on the way. — though. thank you. there is a lot of wind on the way, carol. _ wind on the way, carol. good morning. good morning. lou is absolutely right. it is going to be pretty windy for the next few days. very unsettled. the strongest winds look like being overnight wednesday to thursday. although they will ease a touch on thursday, it is still going to be pretty windy. we have got a developing area of low pressure in the atlantic. it is zooming our way, taking cloud and heavy rain. this morning it is fairly quiet. some mist in the west, clear skies in parts of the south, some early sunshine. a cold start with frost. a weak weather front in the west is going to move eastwards bringing more clout. and rain. generally, we are looking at light winds. through the afternoon you will notice heavy rain coming in across northern ireland and western scotland. the wind is also going to

strengthen. this represents the wind strengthen. this represents the wind strength of the gusts of wind. wherever you are in the west it is going to be windy. through the evening the met office has a warning at four gusts of wind across north—west scotland, 65 to 75 mph. it is not going to be a particularly cold night, temperatures will drop a touch. we start wednesday with this rain in england and wales. it is joined by another band from the west. murky conditions across wales and south—west england. although it will be a dry start in parts of scotland, the rain in northern ireland will sweep north east through the course of the day. and again it is going to be a windy day. 40 to 50 mph. these are the kind of wind gusts you can see in the afternoon and into the evening. they really strengthen as we go through the overnight period. i will show you why. no pressure coming in. the front rattled through quite quickly. look at those isobars across the

board. the strongest winds will be with exposure in the west. 65 to 75 mph. even in land we are looking at gusty winds of 60 mph. these are potentially damaging gusts of wind and could be disruptive. on thursday at the rain goes through but it is followed by a rash of showers. on the hills in the night it could be wintry for a time. although, as i mentioned, it will be windy, it will not be quite as windy as it will be overnight. the other thing worth mentioning is they will be some large waves in the west and also through the english channel, especially overnight on wednesday to thursday. these are our temperatures. you might be wondering what is happening. these are the gusts of wind we can expect on thursday. as we head into the latter part of the week we have another week whether front crossing. it is going to be quite windy. even into the weekend there will be whether front crossing us, bringing rain. so

in summary, for friday, showers passing. some sunshine. still windy. these are the gusts of wind in those circles. even on saturday it is going to be windy and showery as well. tonnes going on with the weather. if all you take away from this podcast is the strongest winds will be overnight on wednesday to thursday, and they could potentially be damaging and destructive. thank you. from setting up test and trace systems to handing out food parcels, a new report out today highlights how english councils have served their communities throughout the pandemic. as part of our power and the people series, our political correspondent alex forsyth has been to lincolnshire, to find out what people there think ahead of the local elections in may. it's wonderful to help these people in these times. the volunteers of branston village have been on the front line of this pandemic. there you are, there's yourfood parcel.

thank you very much indeed. when families started to struggle, they stepped up, delivering food and general support, all led by andy. i was absolutely astounded with the actual response from the community itself. and it's notjust the uptake up to 100 volunteers that i had within a couple of weeks, but it was also with all the surrounding organisations, all the big food chains. they say they were well placed to meet local need quickly, in contrast to larger schemes, which can take time. to me, it's speed. it's a lack of red tape. i think that's what is the superb thing about the local community, meeting the local need. one of the things people say when i deliver a food parcel — "we only asked last night, you're here, it's nine o'clock in the morning." that'll be fantastic, that'll do lovely, thank you. it's notjust volunteers like these. a report out today says across england, councils have played a crucial part in helping communities during the pandemic, knowing what's needed on the ground and proving they should have more powers in future.

in rural places like lincolnshire, local businessman dave thinks councils do have a key role. he's a consultant, the owner of the shooting club, getting some practice in, is a client. dave didn't qualify for the government support on offer, but he's hoping for a grant from the county council. he says they're right to play a part in backing local businesses and promoting the region, too. there's ten or 20 rural counties. we need to level the playing fields. now, boris said that he's going to level up the north. what about levelling up the rural counties as well, mate? covid has changed the landscape. the government's put significant central support in place for businesses and families, and says it's handing down resources and control away from westminster to all parts of the country, with billions set aside to regenerate communities, including rural areas. in some places, councils are looking at a shake—up too. across england, local government is complicated,

different depending where you live. for many, betterfunding is key, giving councils more spending power. some structures might change too. lincolnshire isjust one place looking at whether fewer councils doing more would save money and improve efficiency. there are lots of questions about what works best. in a town on the edge of lincolnshire, mums danielle and victoria say having people who really understand local areas in charge of services and budgets, is what matters to them. i think the local areas, if they have more control over their funds, they're going to be able to meet those needs better. my worry with giving the powers to a bigger council area would be that they would still be as remote. i mean, they might as well be in westminster as far as we're concerned. for some, this pandemic shown the power of local leadership. for others, it's shown the benefits of big picture, central control. either way, it's posed key questions about who knows what's best for communities,

which will be crucial as the country recovers. alex forsyth, bbc news, lincolnshire. back to something we were discussing yesterday. it has been more than 24 hours since harry and meghan's explosive interview with oprah winfrey. it is still making headlines. president biden has weighed in, reportedly saying it took "courag'" for the sussexes to speak out. let's get more now on the us response from author and royal podcaster, dana schwartz, who joins us from los angeles. thank you very much forjoining us live on bbc breakfast. as louise was saying, 24—hour zone, is the dust are starting to settle? what is the reaction like the day after that interview?— reaction like the day after that interview? ., ~ , ., ., ., interview? thank you for having me. it was absolutely _ interview? thank you for having me. it was absolutely a _ interview? thank you for having me. it was absolutely a bombshell. - interview? thank you for having me. it was absolutely a bombshell. it - it was absolutely a bombshell. it feels _ it was absolutely a bombshell. it feels like — it was absolutely a bombshell. it feels like everyone i knew was watching — feels like everyone i knew was watching it. ithink feels like everyone i knew was watching it. i think it was something like 17 million households tuning _ something like 17 million households

tuning ih _ something like 17 million households tuning ih it— something like 17 million households tuning in. it was everything everyone _ tuning in. it was everything everyone was talking about. everyone has their— everyone was talking about. everyone has their own opinion but largely, at least _ has their own opinion but largely, at least in — has their own opinion but largely, at least in my circles, it was full of support— at least in my circles, it was full of support for meghan and harry and the bravery— of support for meghan and harry and the bravery it took to speak out of the bravery it took to speak out of the way _ the bravery it took to speak out of the way they did. do the bravery it took to speak out of the way they did.— the way they did. do you think it has changed _ the way they did. do you think it has changed perceptions - the way they did. do you think it has changed perceptions of- the way they did. do you think it has changed perceptions of the l the way they did. do you think it - has changed perceptions of the royal family in america? i has changed perceptions of the royal family in america?— family in america? i think, unfortunately, _ family in america? i think, unfortunately, did. - family in america? i think, unfortunately, did. most. family in america? i think, - unfortunately, did. most americans don't— unfortunately, did. most americans don't have— unfortunately, did. most americans don't have an intimate understanding of the _ don't have an intimate understanding of the royal family. we enjoy the pageantry and the adorable human mascots— pageantry and the adorable human mascots to the nation, great britain as a whole — mascots to the nation, great britain as a whole i— mascots to the nation, great britain as a whole. i think the crown popularising a turbulent period in the monarchy's history, combined with this, — the monarchy's history, combined with this, has made people see monarchy— with this, has made people see monarchy a more human light. i think seeing _ monarchy a more human light. i think seeing them — monarchy a more human light. i think seeing them as individuals with their— seeing them as individuals with their personal failings as opposed tojust _ their personal failings as opposed tojust the theatrical their personal failings as opposed

to just the theatrical institution as a whole. i�*m to just the theatrical institution as a whole-— to just the theatrical institution asawhole. �* , ., �* to just the theatrical institution asawhole. , ., �* ., as a whole. i'm sure you haven't had as a whole. i'm sure you haven't had a look through _ as a whole. i'm sure you haven't had a look through the _ as a whole. i'm sure you haven't had a look through the papers _ as a whole. i'm sure you haven't had a look through the papers over - as a whole. i'm sure you haven't had a look through the papers over here | a look through the papers over here in the uk but there are pages and pages and pages and pull—outs in all the major papers here. but a lot of people pointing out that this is one side of the story and as yet there has been no response from the palace. do you think that response will be eagerly anticipated in the us as it is here?! will be eagerly anticipated in the us as it is here?— will be eagerly anticipated in the us as it is here? i imagine. i mean, this isjust — us as it is here? i imagine. i mean, this isjust me _ us as it is here? i imagine. i mean, this isjust me saying _ us as it is here? i imagine. i mean, this isjust me saying it. _ us as it is here? i imagine. i mean, this isjust me saying it. i _ us as it is here? i imagine. i mean, this isjust me saying it. i imagine l this isjust me saying it. i imagine the response is going to be very measured — the response is going to be very measured and very polite. i find it very interesting and funny that some of the _ very interesting and funny that some of the response from english and british— of the response from english and british people that were critical of meghan— british people that were critical of meghan and harry, were saying, oh, they want— meghan and harry, were saying, oh, they want privacy, and yet here they are doing _ they want privacy, and yet here they are doing an— they want privacy, and yet here they are doing an interview. from my perspective it seems like the tabloids— perspective it seems like the tabloids and sources from inside the palace _ tabloids and sources from inside the palace were continually criticising meghan— palace were continually criticising meghan and harry on a very one—sided way. meghan and harry on a very one—sided way at _ meghan and harry on a very one—sided way at least _ meghan and harry on a very one—sided way. at least to me it felt like meghan— way. at least to me it felt like meghan la grande harryjust wanted one opportunity to set the record

straight — one opportunity to set the record straight from their perspective. i think— straight from their perspective. i think they— straight from their perspective. i think they were more than entitled to. ., ., . ., think they were more than entitled to. ., ., .., ., ., think they were more than entitled to. ., ., ., ., ., to. you have covered a lot of royal stories over _ to. you have covered a lot of royal stories over the _ to. you have covered a lot of royal stories over the years. _ to. you have covered a lot of royal stories over the years. they - to. you have covered a lot of royal stories over the years. they have l stories over the years. they have been a number of huge significant of elements in that family for many generations. do you think that there is a way back, recovery process? do you think the royal family will come out of the other side of this? absolutely. i mean, the royalfamily absolutely. i mean, the royal family is an institution has lasted 1200 years— is an institution has lasted 1200 years in— is an institution has lasted 1200 years in this current iteration. they— years in this current iteration. they made _ years in this current iteration. they made it through diana. but with meghan. _ they made it through diana. but with meghan. at— they made it through diana. but with meghan, at least from the american perspective, it seems to me like this was— perspective, it seems to me like this was an _ perspective, it seems to me like this was an opportunity to modernise the institution of the monarchy. it could _ the institution of the monarchy. it could be _ the institution of the monarchy. it could be a — the institution of the monarchy. it could be a more diverse and inclusive _ could be a more diverse and inclusive, warmer institution that may be _ inclusive, warmer institution that may be feels a little more in step with the — may be feels a little more in step with the 21st century. and it seems like that— with the 21st century. and it seems like that was an opportunity they flat out— like that was an opportunity they flat out rejected. i think your loss is our— flat out rejected. i think your loss is our gaih — flat out rejected. i think your loss is our gain. we are happy to have

them _ is our gain. we are happy to have them. ., ., , , , ., them. one of the other issues that has come out _ them. one of the other issues that has come out of _ them. one of the other issues that has come out of it _ them. one of the other issues that has come out of it is _ them. one of the other issues that has come out of it is they - them. one of the other issues that has come out of it is they talked i has come out of it is they talked about a member of the royal household, the royalfamily, there is much debate about exactly what they were saying, was talking about they were saying, was talking about the potential colour of their child. do you think they will be asked questions permanently about this, to try to, rather than talking about the entire royal family? try to, rather than talking about the entire royalfamily? now we try to, rather than talking about the entire royal family? now we are asking, which member of the royal household was it who said that? do you think there will be pressure on them to go into more detail about that allegation? ida. them to go into more detail about that allegation?— that allegation? no. ithinki and prince harry _ that allegation? no. ithinki and prince harry were _ that allegation? no. ithinki and prince harry were rightfully - that allegation? no. ithinki and prince harry were rightfully very | prince harry were rightfully very respectful not to use their interview to attack the royal family interview to attack the royal family in any— interview to attack the royal family in any way — interview to attack the royal family in any way. it sounded to me like they— in any way. it sounded to me like they were — in any way. it sounded to me like they were incredibly respectful of they were incredibly respectful of the queen and the crown as an institutioh _ the queen and the crown as an institution. although this morning, 0prah— institution. although this morning, oprah did — institution. although this morning, oprah did clarify that prince harry

wanted _ oprah did clarify that prince harry wanted to— oprah did clarify that prince harry wanted to make it very clear that the individual who he had that conversation with was not the queen or prince _ conversation with was not the queen or prince philip, which leaves fewer possibilities. i think that out of respect, — possibilities. i think that out of respect, meghan and harry did not specify _ respect, meghan and harry did not specify. but i would imagine viewers and audience members filled in that .ap and audience members filled in that gap themselves. in my circle we certainly— gap themselves. in my circle we certainly did. gap themselves. in my circle we certainly did-— gap themselves. in my circle we certainly did. that was cbs. oprah winfrey went _ certainly did. that was cbs. oprah winfrey went on _ certainly did. that was cbs. oprah winfrey went on cbs _ certainly did. that was cbs. oprah winfrey went on cbs to _ certainly did. that was cbs. oprah winfrey went on cbs to talk - certainly did. that was cbs. oprah winfrey went on cbs to talk about| winfrey went on cbs to talk about that. your morning, our last night here in the uk. what about what is next for harry and meghan? what do you see the next few weeks, the next few months looking like for them, do you think? i few months looking like for them, do ou think? . few months looking like for them, do ou think? , ., _ you think? i believe that when i say the want you think? i believe that when i say they want to _ you think? i believe that when i say they want to commit _ you think? i believe that when i say they want to commit to _ you think? i believe that when i say they want to commit to a _ you think? i believe that when i say they want to commit to a lifetime l you think? i believe that when i say| they want to commit to a lifetime of service _ they want to commit to a lifetime of service i_ they want to commit to a lifetime of service. i think after the barrage of attacks— service. i think after the barrage of attacks and press coverage that they have — of attacks and press coverage that they have gotten from some of the british— they have gotten from some of the british tabloids, even the few that have made their way across the seas, i have made their way across the seas, i would _ have made their way across the seas, i would imagine that is exhausting. if i i would imagine that is exhausting. if i were _ i would imagine that is exhausting. if i were meghan and harry i would

want a _ if i were meghan and harry i would want a few— if i were meghan and harry i would want a few weeks or months of relaxing — want a few weeks or months of relaxing in _ want a few weeks or months of relaxing in their santa barbara home — relaxing in their santa barbara home. beyond that, netflix will be committed to putting out programme -- putting— committed to putting out programme -- putting a— committed to putting out programme —— putting a programming that serves their interests. they both seem dedicated to service and raising money— dedicated to service and raising money for— dedicated to service and raising money for causes around the world. and i_ money for causes around the world. and i expect — money for causes around the world. and i expect that will continue whether— and i expect that will continue whether or not they do so with ties official— whether or not they do so with ties official or— whether or not they do so with ties official or unofficial to the royal family — official or unofficial to the royal famil . . , official or unofficial to the royal famil. ., , family. really appreciate your insi . ht family. really appreciate your insight on _ family. really appreciate your insight on that. _ family. really appreciate your insight on that. thank - family. really appreciate your insight on that. thank you - family. really appreciate yourl insight on that. thank you very much. that gives us an indication of, as you said louise, 24 hours on from the interview in america, still a big appetite for the story. as there is here. we await a response from the palace to see exactly how they will counter some of those allegations made in that interview. still to come on breakfast. we speak to athlete keely hodgkinson, who became great britain's youngest european indoor champion

since 1970 over the weekend. she is onlyjust19. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. concerns have been raised about the future of london zoo, which has been closed for the first time since world war two because of the pandemic. millions of pounds have been lost in ticket sales over the last 12 months. it was hoped it could reopen in time for easter but under current plans zoos will be shut until at least the 12th of april. over the easter period we're due to lose over £2 million of revenue that we're expected to take. it does have a massive impact, if you think about how long we've been closed over the past year. i'm really worried now that if we don't start getting visitors back in, we can't survive. the nightingale hospital in east london set up to treat covid

patients will close next month. the 4,000 bed facility at the excel centre in docklands was one of seven similar hospitals. the nhs says the one in london will stay open for vaccinations. the pandemic has highlighted the issue of loneliness in london. all this week, we're looking at the difference the community has made on the alton estate in roehampton. one charity working in the area says those in need of support because they're isolated has increased in the last year. regenerate rise now helps hundreds of older people on the estate. you've got to stay positive, you know. otherwise you're really down in the doldrums. and if it wasn't for regenerate and people like tony, you know, i'd feel completely cut off. let's take a look at the travel situation now. it's all looking good on the tubes. turning to the roads briefly. in hanworth there's a lane closed for roadworks in both directions on great chertsey road near the hospital bridge roundabout. you can see there.

elsewhere the m25 is down to one lane clockwise from junction 29 for romford tojunction 30 for lakeside, that's after a crash and also for some road repairs. finally in tottenham, white hart lane is closed in both directions between the high road and creighton road due to a police investigation. now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello, good morning. it's all change tomorrow, when it's going to be very wet and windy. but for today, a fairly pleasant day of weather ahead for early spring. we start off with temperatures above freezing, so it's not as chilly as it was this time yesterday. a bit of cloud milling around this morning, but that will thin and break. we'll see some decent spells of sunshine emerge. sunny spells again this afternoon, and the winds will start by the time we get to the end of the day. top temperatures in double figures again, slightly higher than yesterday's, 11 or 12 degrees celsius, that's 54 in fahrenheit. now through this evening and overnight, the cloud

is going to thicken from the west. it'll feel milder, but the wind picks up further and there'll be outbreaks of rain moving eastwards into the start of the day tomorrow. so it's really a wet start to the morning. and it's going to stay wet all day. there'll be some heavy downpours of rain through the day on wednesday. some strong, gusty winds. there's a met office weather warning in place for the strength of the winds on wednesday night into thursday. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address.

good morning, welcome to breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. our headlines today. buckingham palace remains silent 24 hours after the first broadcast of harry and meghan's oprah interview. but in the us, friends of the couple rally round. their cruelty in going after meghan

was just outrageous. a lawyer for anne sacoolas, the american woman who caused the death of harry dunn in 2019, has explained why she is not willing to stand trial in the uk. the daughter of former scotland, manchester united and leeds footballer gordon mcqueen speaks for the first time since her father was diagnosed with dementia. there have been moments where i'm like, god, i can't believe the thing that gave him so much love has now so cruelly taken a lot of him away from us. it comes as a parliamentary inquiry is launched into the links between sport and long—term brain injury. and rare rocks from a meteorite that lit up the sky last week have been found in a driveway in gloucestershire. it isa it is a fairly quiet day weather—wise until later on this afternoon when the wind will strengthen in the west, and some rain comes in. that heralds the

start of a very unsettled spell with heavy and persistent rain and gales or severe gales. i will have the details throughout the programme. it's tuesday 9th march. our top story. the royal family remains silent more than 24 hours after the duke and duchess of sussex's explosive interview with oprah winfrey. in the broadcast, watched by millions worldwide, meghan raised allegations of racism and a lack of support from within the institution. keith doyle has more. viewers in the uk got to watch the full interview last night and the fallout this morning is nuclear. the headlines could not be worse for the palace. turmoil and crisis. they are no less forgiving on the other side of the atlantic. tonight, oprah's interview with the duke and duchess of sussex just aired for the first time in the uk. now britain braces for fallout. despite being previewed, teased and dominating the news, the claims made and heard

in the context of the full two hour interview are still able to shock. claims that meghan was driven close to suicide and that a member of the royal family discussed the skin colour of the duke and duchess's soon—to—be born child. in those months when i was pregnant, all around this same time, so we have in tandem the conversation of, he won't be given security, he's not going to be given a title. and also, concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he's born. what? throughout the interview, the picture painted was one neither meghan or harry sed who made those comments but oprah winfrey honoured at the interview with information he got from harry. he did information he got from harry. he: did not share that but he wanted to

make sure that if i knew or if i had the opportunity to share it that it was not his grandmother or grandfather who was part of those conversations. throughout the interview, the picture painted was one of an uncaring and unsupportive institution, at odds with the image of being at the head of a multicultural country and commonwealth. in america, this summer, wejust went through the black lives matter movement and the killing of george floyd. now, what we see, when we see this monarchy, we see an institution that we revere, and now we find out that you guys have the same issues of racial and racism, systemic racism, that we do in the united states. so, yes, it does hurt us. it almost seems like a fairy tale shattered for many of us. overnight there's been no comment from buckingham palace which is sure to be reeling from such explosive claims by those at the very heart of the royal family. all eyes and the media spotlight is on here today to see how or if it responds. i don't see buckingham palace as being like the kremlin. on the whole, they are a very civilised organisation.

but i also don't think that they are likely to engage in this kind of war between two parties which of course the tabloid press would greatly enjoy. the harry and meghan love story was a fairy tale, and brought young, modern vitality into the royal family. this interview has brought up real issues that can't easily be ignored. security, mental health and trust. just a few years on from the fairy tale, and for buckingham palace, all that has turned to crisis management on an epic scale. keith doyle, bbc news. there's also been plenty of reaction to the interview from the us, where it first aired. president biden's press secretary said it had taken "courage" for harry and meghan to speak about mental health, and the former secretary of state hillary clinton has also given her support to the duchess of sussex. meghan markle is a private citizen, and so is harry at this point. for anyone to come forward and speak

about their own struggles with mental health and tell their own personal story, that takes courage and that is something the president believes. he has talked about the importance of investing in a lot of these areas that they are committed to in the future. their cruelty in going after meghan wasjust outrageous. and the fact she did not get more support, that the reaction was, let'sjust paper it over and pretend that it didn't happen, or it will go away, just keep your head down, well, this young woman was not about to keep her head down, this is 2021. so while there's a lot of reaction on both sides of the atlantic, the one response we're yet to get is from the royal family. our royal correspondent daniela relphjoins us now. good morning. yesterday you were outside buckingham palace, i think i asked you then if we would get a

response from the royal family, can we ask the same question today, what do you think might happen? i think we will, but _ do you think might happen? i think we will, but we _ do you think might happen? i think we will, but we are _ do you think might happen? i think we will, but we are not _ do you think might happen? i think we will, but we are not absolutelyl we will, but we are not absolutely sure. we are now 24 hours on, more than 24 hours on from when that interview was first aired in the united states and still nothing from buckingham palace. that in itself is not surprising. they will not want to feel rushed into saying something, they will want to get it right, they will want to consider what's been said and how everything is playing out. you have to remember this is, of course, ultimately a highly charged, highly emotional personalfamily drama highly charged, highly emotional personal family drama that they have to deal with. yesterday there were, as you would of course imagine, meetings within buckingham palace and within other royal households amongst senior staff and perhaps most importantly, amongst senior members of the royal family. most importantly, amongst senior members of the royalfamily. we most importantly, amongst senior members of the royal family. we can expect to seen the queen, the

expect to seen the queen, prince members of the royal family. we can expect to seen the queen, prince of wales and the duke of cambridge there. it is becoming unsustainable for the buckingham palace to say nothing at all. in the past they have had the position, never complain, never explain, but the response to this interview and the demand for some kind of statement from them is very strong. i think today we will see some kind of response. whether they will deal with the detail of the allegations, i'm not sure they will do that, perhaps more likely it will be some kind of statement showing compassion and support for meghan and harry. haste and support for meghan and harry. we have been speaking to somebody from the us this morning talking about how this is framing perceptions of royal family how this is framing perceptions of royalfamily in america, how this is framing perceptions of royal family in america, the perception to them. in your mind, how damaging is what is happening at the moment to the image of the royal family around the world? look the moment to the image of the royal family around the world?— family around the world? look at the headhnes family around the world? look at the headlines this _ family around the world? look at the headlines this morning, _ family around the world? look at the headlines this morning, you - family around the world? look at the headlines this morning, you don't i headlines this morning, you don't really need to go further than that. there is no question that this is

potentially very damaging for the royal family and that is why there will be this clamour for them to say something, and also from their side, for them to pitch and get that right, and to make sure they are saying the right kind of thing to perhaps calm some of the headlines and deal with some of the serious allegations that are being put. on the side of buckingham palace, there is also a large number of staff there who feel very upset because they worked alongside harry and meghan, they did their very best to try and help them, some of those individuals, and they feel very slighted and smarting over what has been said. they have to get the balance right to address the serious things that harry and meghan clearly felt and said yesterday but also deal with the members of staff that they have a duty of care for as well in terms of how they are feeling, and just pitching that public statement right to try and quell those headlines.— statement right to try and quell those headlines. ., ~ , ., . those headlines. thank you so much for the moment. _ those headlines. thank you so much for the moment. as _ those headlines. thank you so much for the moment. as our _ those headlines. thank you so much for the moment. as our royal - for the moment. as our royal correspondent said there, if we get something today on air, we will

bring it to you as soon as it happens but they will not be rushing anything out. one of world's biggest beauty manufacturers has promised to stop digitally altering images of their models in its advertising. unilever, which owns the brands dove and lynx, says it will stop airbrushing body shape and skin colour from now on. the company has also pledged to no longer use the word "normal" on packaging and adverts for all its beauty and personal care brands. sports coaches and faith leaders who have sexual relationships with 16 and 17—year—olds in their care will be breaking the law under new legislation planned for england and wales. the move would put them on par with roles like teachers and social workers. it's one of a number of measures being introduced in the commons later today. the bill also includes a proposal to increase sentences for child killers. detectives investigating the disappearance of a woman missing since wednesday say they remain "open minded as to all possibilities." 33—year—old sarah everard was last

spotted on cctv walking alone in clapham in south london. police say they have received more than 100 calls from the public and are continuing their inquiries. several meteorite fragments have been recovered from a fireball that lit up the sky over southern england at the end of last month. a man in gloucestershire first alerted experts after noticing a pile of charred stone in his driveway. other members of the public have since come forward with their own finds. it's 30 years since meteorite material was last retrieved in the uk. we'll be speaking to one of the experts who has been examing the rock pieces later in the programme. we cannot actually touch it, because it is so fragile. i would love to see it, wouldn't you? that expert coming later on.— coming later on. they can filter earth at a _ coming later on. they can filter earth at a staggering _ coming later on. they can filter earth at a staggering speed - coming later on. they can filter. earth at a staggering speed don't touch it! —— they can fall to earth at a staggering speed! let's catch up with the weather and it is windy on the way?

that's right, good morning. it is a quiet day for most of us until later on and then the wind will strengthen from the west, and that's it for the rest of the week, we are looking at strong winds, severe gales may be inland as well as well heavy rain. a cold start this morning in southern areas especially, here some frost with the clear skies. in the west, patchy cloud and rain, a week weather front drifting west to east. by weather front drifting west to east. by the end of the afternoon, we will have their wind strengthening. the black circles represent the strength of the gusts. this evening and overnight, the band of rain continues to push eastwards and southwards, when the around it as well, it clears scotland and northern ireland with some showers, but because it will be cooler, some of the showers will be wintry but no issues with frost as we push further

south. through wednesday, the rain remains across england and wales. one band tries to clear but another one comes in hot on its heels so it will be a wet day and it will be a windy day as well. the gusts widely 40 to 50 miles an hour. overnight wednesday into thursday, we see the strongest gusts of wind, with severe gales with exposure even inland which could be disruptive and some large seas, big waves in the west and the english channel. it has been over 18 months since the death of harry dunn, who was killed after his motorbike was involved in a crash near a military base in northamptonshire. here on breakfast we have closely followed his family's fight to bring the driver of the other car, anne sacoolas, to justice. now, her lawyer has been speaking about the case to radio 4 presenterjoshua rozenberg. hejoins us now. good to talk to you, thank you for talking to us. harry done's parents have waited 18 months to know how

their son was killed, what can you tell us? —— harry dunn. their son was killed, what can you tell us? -- harry dunn.— tell us? -- harry dunn. anne sacoolas _ tell us? -- harry dunn. anne sacoolas was _ tell us? -- harry dunn. anne sacoolas was visiting - tell us? -- harry dunn. anne sacoolas was visiting this - tell us? -- harry dunn. anne sacoolas was visiting this us| sacoolas was visiting this us communications base in the area, her husband had diplomatic immunity due to hisjob. it was husband had diplomatic immunity due to his job. it was a husband had diplomatic immunity due to hisjob. it was a summer evening, they had a barbecue with their family, and her lawyer told us what happened when she left. she family, and her lawyer told us what happened when she left.— happened when she left. she was drivin: happened when she left. she was driving out _ happened when she left. she was driving out of _ happened when she left. she was driving out of the _ happened when she left. she was driving out of the base, _ happened when she left. she was driving out of the base, took- happened when she left. she was driving out of the base, took a i happened when she left. she was| driving out of the base, took a left turn out _ driving out of the base, took a left turn out of — driving out of the base, took a left turn out of the roadway and instinctively drove on the right side _ instinctively drove on the right side of— instinctively drove on the right side of the road as she read in the united _ side of the road as she read in the united states. she had only been in the uk _ united states. she had only been in the uk for— united states. she had only been in the uk for a few weeks and this is a tragic— the uk for a few weeks and this is a tragic mistake and she has never denied _ tragic mistake and she has never denied that it was her fault that she caused the collision by driving on the _ she caused the collision by driving on the wrong side of the road. that was the collision _ on the wrong side of the road. trust was the collision that led to the death of harry dunn?— was the collision that led to the death of harry dunn? yes, he was ridin: his death of harry dunn? yes, he was riding his motorbike _ death of harry dunn? yes, he was riding his motorbike perfectly - riding his motorbike perfectly safety, correct side of the road,

only 20 seconds after anne sacoolas left the air base so she had not got very far at all when the accident happened. she stopped and spoke to harry, tried to help him, there was a passing motorist, she flagged him down, they called the emergency services and anne sacoolas called security at the airbase and the ministry of defence police for the first to come out and help. the local police arrived, she offered to take a breathalyser test, that produced a zero reading. she remained at the scene until the police told her to leave, and he gave them a long interview at home later. —— she gave them a long interview at home later. fight! later. -- she gave them a long interview at home later. and then she left the _ interview at home later. and then she left the country _ interview at home later. and then she left the country and _ interview at home later. and then she left the country and flew - interview at home later. and then she left the country and flew backj she left the country and flew back to the united states? fight! she left the country and flew back to the united states?— she left the country and flew back to the united states? and that was the controversial— to the united states? and that was the controversial thing, _ to the united states? and that was the controversial thing, she - to the united states? and that was the controversial thing, she left i to the united states? and that was the controversial thing, she left on | the controversial thing, she left on the controversial thing, she left on the 15th of september, two weeks after the accident. but before then, the united states and united kingdom authorities had agreed that she was entitled as a dependent to diplomatic immunity. so she could not face prosecution. the us refused

to waive that immunity, allowing her, that would have allowed her to stand trial, and in those circumstances, it is normalfor the individual concerned to leave otherwise they would be expelled. it wasn't until three months later that the crown prosecution service authorised northamptonshire police to charge anne sacoolas with causing by dangerous driving. but her lawyer told me why she would not be returning to face trial. this kind of an accident, _ returning to face trial. this kind of an accident, had _ returning to face trial. this kind of an accident, had it _ returning to face trial. this kind of an accident, had it occurred l returning to face trial. this kind l of an accident, had it occurred in the united — of an accident, had it occurred in the united states, would not be prosecuted criminally. so in the united — prosecuted criminally. so in the united states these cases are only prosecuted where there is evidence of recklessness, that rises to the level— of recklessness, that rises to the level of— of recklessness, that rises to the level of close to intent. so drunk driving — level of close to intent. so drunk driving, distracted driving, ora hit-and-run_ driving, distracted driving, ora hit—and—run situation. or excessive speeding _ hit—and—run situation. or excessive speeding. there was none of that here _ speeding. there was none of that here. , . speeding. there was none of that here. , , ., , speeding. there was none of that here. , .,, . ., , here. just to be clear, this happened _ here. just to be clear, this happened in _ here. just to be clear, this happened in the _ here. just to be clear, this happened in the uk - here. just to be clear, this happened in the uk so - here. just to be clear, this| happened in the uk so you

here. just to be clear, this - happened in the uk so you would assume she should have been under english law? she assume she should have been under english law?— english law? she should have comlied english law? she should have complied with _ english law? she should have complied with english - english law? she should have complied with english law- english law? she should have| complied with english law and english law? she should have - complied with english law and she could have faced prosecution in england if she had not claimed and been entitled to diplomatic immunity. i put that point to her lawyer, and she said that she had been looking for a way of resolving the case without anne sacoolas returning to the uk. we the case without anne sacoolas returning to the uk.— the case without anne sacoolas returning to the uk. we have been makin: returning to the uk. we have been making efforts _ returning to the uk. we have been making efforts to _ returning to the uk. we have been making efforts to resolve - returning to the uk. we have been making efforts to resolve this - returning to the uk. we have been making efforts to resolve this case j making efforts to resolve this case short _ making efforts to resolve this case short of— making efforts to resolve this case short of her return. we understand that community service is a typical sentence _ that community service is a typical sentence for offences like this, and we have _ sentence for offences like this, and we have offered ever since over a year _ we have offered ever since over a year ago — we have offered ever since over a year ago now that she would be willing — year ago now that she would be willing to — year ago now that she would be willing to serve that kind of a sentence, and to make a contribution in harry's— sentence, and to make a contribution in harry's memory, to take other steps _ in harry's memory, to take other steps to— in harry's memory, to take other steps to try— in harry's memory, to take other steps to try to bring some peace to the family — steps to try to bring some peace to the famil . . ~ steps to try to bring some peace to the famil . ., ~ , steps to try to bring some peace to the famil . . ~' ,, , . the family. thank you very much 21 for takin: the family. thank you very much 21 for taking us _ the family. thank you very much 21 for taking us through _ the family. thank you very much 21 for taking us through all _ the family. thank you very much 21 for taking us through all of - the family. thank you very much 21 for taking us through all of that. i for taking us through all of that. —— thank you very muchjoshua rozenberg, for taking us to all that. you can hear the full version of that interview on law in action on bbc radio 4 at 4pm.

harry's mum charlotte charles and the family spokesman, radd seigerjoin us now from northamptonshire. thank you for talking to us. i know that you have been able to hear some of that interview, and had a few hours to digest it, what are your first impressions?— hours to digest it, what are your first impressions? look, you know, m first first impressions? look, you know, my first impressions _ first impressions? look, you know, my first impressions are _ first impressions? look, you know, my first impressions are still - first impressions? look, you know, my first impressions are still as - my first impressions are still as they always have been. i made a promise to harry the night that he died, thejustice promise to harry the night that he died, the justice would promise to harry the night that he died, thejustice would be done. there are no circumstances at all that are going to make me break that promise. this campaign has been all about accountability, and ensuring that nobody is above the law. she needs to come back. if she wants to resolve this, like she says she does, then it's easy. face the uk justice system, get this done and dusted. she can then move on with her life, and we can start to rebuild ours. i her life, and we can start to rebuild ours.— her life, and we can start to rebuild ours. ~ ., , .,, [k

rebuild ours. i know these last 18 months have _ rebuild ours. i know these last 18 months have been _ rebuild ours. i know these last 18 months have been incredibly - months have been incredibly difficult for you. she did give information about what happened on the night, does that in any way help? the night, does that in any way hel? ., the night, does that in any way hel ? ., ., , the night, does that in any way hel? ., ., , , help? not enough. there is still so manyjigsaw— help? not enough. there is still so many jigsaw pieces _ help? not enough. there is still so many jigsaw pieces that _ help? not enough. there is still so many jigsaw pieces that we - help? not enough. there is still so many jigsaw pieces that we need, l help? not enough. there is still so i manyjigsaw pieces that we need, and that we deserve. we deserve to know exactly what happened. so many questions that we need answered. so she needs to face that uk justice system so that we get those. we need them and we are entitled to them. radd, let's talk about, is this the outcome you expected, if this what you expected to hear from the lawyer? you expected to hear from the la er? ., ., ., , , lawyer? not at all. this is the first time _ lawyer? not at all. this is the first time that _ lawyer? not at all. this is the first time that we _ lawyer? not at all. this is the first time that we have - lawyer? not at all. this is the first time that we have heard | lawyer? not at all. this is the - first time that we have heard from anne _ first time that we have heard from anne sacoolas's lawyer in all this time _ anne sacoolas's lawyer in all this time what— anne sacoolas's lawyer in all this time. what i want to say this morning _ time. what i want to say this morning in response to this is that we should — morning in response to this is that we should not be trying this case and the — we should not be trying this case

and the bbc. mrsjeffress has been invited _ and the bbc. mrsjeffress has been invited to— and the bbc. mrsjeffress has been invited to speak to the crown prosecution service to find a way forward, — prosecution service to find a way forward, and that is where they discussion— forward, and that is where they discussion needs to take place. it is not _ discussion needs to take place. it is not for— discussion needs to take place. it is not for her or me to determine which _ is not for her or me to determine which way— is not for her or me to determine which way this case goes, that's not a luxury— which way this case goes, that's not a luxury that — which way this case goes, that's not a luxury that any of us would be entitled — a luxury that any of us would be entitled to. if we break the law, don't _ entitled to. if we break the law, don't get — entitled to. if we break the law, don't get to go —— we don't get to id don't get to go —— we don't get to go to— don't get to go —— we don't get to go to court— don't get to go —— we don't get to go to court and say, please let me. mrs jeffress — go to court and say, please let me. mrsjeffress is wrong go to court and say, please let me. mrs jeffress is wrong when she says that community service is a typical that community service is atypical order— that community service is a typical order for— that community service is a typical order for causing death by dangerous driving _ order for causing death by dangerous driving, that is absolutely wrong. and it's _ driving, that is absolutely wrong. and it's absolutely wrong to say that this — and it's absolutely wrong to say that this is not a case that would be criminally prosecuted in the united — be criminally prosecuted in the united states. if that was the case, the cps— united states. if that was the case, the cps would not have been able to seek extradition. virtually every single _ seek extradition. virtually every single state in the united states has exactly the same laws against bad driving as we have here. sol would _ bad driving as we have here. sol would just— bad driving as we have here. sol would just urge mrs jeffress to bad driving as we have here. sol would just urge mrsjeffress to hop off the _ would just urge mrsjeffress to hop off the airwaves and get back in touch— off the airwaves and get back in touch with the cps and as charlotte

says. _ touch with the cps and as charlotte says. and _ touch with the cps and as charlotte says, and with your help, and your viewers' _ says, and with your help, and your viewers' help, this campaign is not going _ viewers' help, this campaign is not going to _ viewers' help, this campaign is not going to stop until she faces the uk justice _ going to stop until she faces the uk justice system. you going to stop until she faces the uk justice system-— going to stop until she faces the uk justice system. you referred to what she said about _ justice system. you referred to what she said about the _ justice system. you referred to what she said about the accident, - justice system. you referred to what she said about the accident, i - justice system. you referred to what she said about the accident, i will. she said about the accident, i will just quote again if i can what she said. she said, this kind of accident, had it occurred in the united states, would not be prosecuted criminally. that's one of the reasons they have given to her not returning to the uk. lltlul’ith the reasons they have given to her not returning to the uk.— not returning to the uk. with all due respect _ not returning to the uk. with all due respect to _ not returning to the uk. with all due respect to her, _ not returning to the uk. with all due respect to her, she - not returning to the uk. with all due respect to her, she is- not returning to the uk. with all due respect to her, she is a - not returning to the uk. with all due respect to her, she is a fine| due respect to her, she is a fine lawyer, — due respect to her, she is a fine lawyer, but— due respect to her, she is a fine lawyer, but she's categorically wrong — lawyer, but she's categorically wrong i— lawyer, but she's categorically wrong. i can assure your viewers. if that were _ wrong. i can assure your viewers. if that were the — wrong. i can assure your viewers. if that were the case, there is a principle _ that were the case, there is a principle in extradition called dual criminality where if you are seeking the extradition of somebody from another— the extradition of somebody from another country to come back to your country. _ another country to come back to your country they— another country to come back to your country, they have to have the same laws in _ country, they have to have the same laws in that — country, they have to have the same laws in that country. so, no, she's absolutely— laws in that country. so, no, she's absolutely wrong in what she says. and of— absolutely wrong in what she says. and of course, we know she did not attempt _ and of course, we know she did not attempt to — and of course, we know she did not attempt to kill harry, and we have enormous — attempt to kill harry, and we have enormous respect and sympathy for the anne _ enormous respect and sympathy for the anne sacoolas, that we know she is a victim _ the anne sacoolas, that we know she is a victim as — the anne sacoolas, that we know she

is a victim as well in all of this. but in — is a victim as well in all of this. but in our— is a victim as well in all of this. but in our country as in their country _ but in our country as in their country if— but in our country as in their country, if you drive dangerously, 20 seconds — country, if you drive dangerously, 20 seconds down the wrong side of the road _ 20 seconds down the wrong side of the road and end up killing the child, — the road and end up killing the child, that is not something that we tolerate _ child, that is not something that we tolerate in— child, that is not something that we tolerate in this country. we place enormous — tolerate in this country. we place enormous value on human life, particularly on children. and we expect— particularly on children. and we expectjustice to be done. we are not interested in the outcome of any criminal— not interested in the outcome of any criminal process, that's for the courts — criminal process, that's for the courts. what we say is, mrs sacoolas must _ courts. what we say is, mrs sacoolas must come _ courts. what we say is, mrs sacoolas must come to the starting block. what _ must come to the starting block. what happens next is not up to us as victims _ what happens next is not up to us as victims of— what happens next is not up to us as victims of the crime. i what happens next is not up to us as victims of the crime.— victims of the crime. i know it is very difficult _ victims of the crime. i know it is very difficult for _ victims of the crime. i know it is very difficult for you _ victims of the crime. i know it is very difficult for you to - victims of the crime. i know it is very difficult for you to talk- victims of the crime. i know it is. very difficult for you to talk about this, charlotte. she suggested on doing community service, what you make of that? it’s doing community service, what you make of that?— make of that? it's not for us to comment _ make of that? it's not for us to comment on. _ make of that? it's not for us to comment on, in _ make of that? it's not for us to comment on, in this _ make of that? it's not for us to comment on, in this country i make of that? it's not for us to | comment on, in this country we make of that? it's not for us to - comment on, in this country we don't get to advise our crown prosecution service as to what they hand down. we don't get to influence the judge

and a jury in any way. she may well want to do community service. there's nothing we can do to influence that. she has to go through the uk justice system, and our ukjustice system, through the uk justice system, and our uk justice system, which we all know it's one of the fairest in the world. they will decide. shejust needs to come back and get it over and done with. i needs to come back and get it over and done with.— and done with. i know i have asked ou this and done with. i know i have asked you this question _ and done with. i know i have asked you this question before _ and done with. i know i have asked you this question before but - and done with. i know i have asked you this question before but how. and done with. i know i have asked i you this question before but how are you this question before but how are you doing? we you this question before but how are ou doinu ? ~ . ~ . you this question before but how are ou doinu ? ~ ., . ., ., you this question before but how are ou doinu ? . ., . ., ., ., you doing? we are... we are having a particularly — you doing? we are... we are having a particularly rough _ you doing? we are... we are having a particularly rough time _ you doing? we are... we are having a particularly rough time at _ you doing? we are... we are having a particularly rough time at the - particularly rough time at the moment. a few of us in the family have sought help. i won't go into details, because those other family members are not here. but i don't mind saying i have sought help. things are catching up with me. i would love some time to be able to just throw myself into this grieving

process properly, and have some duvet days, and have some time to really absorb the last 18 months. but we are not being afforded that time at the moment. and i am absolutely willing to push that time aside and continue this campaign. there is no way that i can rest, and there's no way that i and my family can grieve properly anyway without having some closure. and that justice needs to be done. but we, yeah, we are struggling a little bit at the moment. but we will get through it. we have a lot of support from family and some amazing friends, and you, the media, and the wonderful general public. so we will keep going. i can promise you that. you know how strong my promises are so i'm not going anywherejust you know how strong my promises are so i'm not going anywhere just yet. i'm really loud to hear you say that you have sought help as well. thank you have sought help as well. thank you very much to both of you. —— i'm

really glad to hear you say that. a spokesperson for the foreign office says the family are being denied justice while the united states refuses to extradite anne sacoolas and that the foreign secetary has raised the issue with the us secretary of state. if you live in england then yesterday may have been more hectic than what we've been used to, as most children returned to the classroom. however, to resume face—to—face learning safely, secondary school pupils are being asked to have covid tests first. john maguire has been to one school in york to find out how most students and staff found their first day back. children chattering. it has been missing from our soundscape since last year. but now it's back. the playground filled with children. i always think that the best sound in the world, i know other people will say something else, but for me, it's listening to children laughing and shouting and being reallyjoyful and enjoying being with each other and playing. and i know we are a secondary school, but our children still go out and they still play out and they still play football,

they do all those things that children should be doing that they haven't been able to do over the last couple of months. so it's just great to see. first lesson of the day at all saints roman catholic school in york, and this year seven form spent more time learning remotely at home than they have in school. you learn so much from each other in a room. people's ideas. so staff are talking to them about adapting to life back in uniform and wearing masks in class. sophie is glad to be back. i think it's really important that we are back at school, because it's good to learn in the proper environment, and to be with your friends and to be able to socialise and everything. i think that one thing that i didn't really like about the lockdown was that we didn't really get to talk to our friends or, maybe the teachers, if we needed a bit of extra help. while lessons continue, so does the programme to test everyone. the sports hall at the railway

institute next door to york station is once again alive with the sounds of young people, as the 1450 pupils undergo their rapid tests. recent months have been a trying time for school staff, for parents, and their children. well, it's been a long two months, on the end of a long year. and it was hard, and it was hard for them emotionally at first when they realised they were not going to go back. but they've been really resilient, and talking to other parents, lots of children have knuckled down and they've made the best of a bad situation. all saints sixth formers are being taught face—to—face for the first time in months. so, kate, we spoke to you this morning you said you were excited, looking ahead, at coming back to school. now you're back, what's it like? yeah, it's as good as i thought it was going to be. it's really nice to see my friends again. we've already been catching up on things we were taught over zoom, and there's obviously a lot of gaps

that have been filled by our teachers. i know they found it quite hard to teach us. but it'sjust nice to be in this environment surrounded by everyone again. home—schooling was interesting. it was certainly an experience, quite novel at the start. it's just not very personal, and i don't feel like you gain as much from the teachers as you would in school, and often the students as well. probably the best part about going to school again is seeing everyone in person, being able to have a nice chat, and kind of really experience the things that were so normal. and yet are so un—normal now so to speak. i'm very excited. i've had two lessons this morning, and they were really, really good. i felt very happy to be seeing people, to be talking to people, and just happy to be learning again. schools are about so more than just lessons. they are communities. people the pandemic has driven apart but are now coming back together. john maguire, bbc news, york.

shall we remind people of the time again? i'm expecting we are all used to getting the school run going again! it is 7:28am. ih to getting the school run going again! it is 7:28am.— to getting the school run going again! it is 7:28am. in case you are recalibrating _ again! it is 7:28am. in case you are recalibrating again. _ again! it is 7:28am. in case you are recalibrating again. that _ again! it is 7:28am. in case you are recalibrating again. that is - again! it is 7:28am. in case you are recalibrating again. that is a - again! it is 7:28am. in case you are recalibrating again. that is a good i recalibrating again. that is a good word, recalibrating. _ time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. we will bejoined we will be joined by thejustice secretary in a few moments. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. detectives investigating the disappearance of a woman in south london say they have received more than 100 calls from the public and are continuing their inquiries. 33—year—old sarah everard was last spotted on cctv walking alone in clapham last wednesday. police say they remain open minded as to all possibilities. concerns have been raised about the future of london zoo, which has been closed for the first time since world war two because of the pandemic. millions of pounds have been

lost in ticket sales over the last 12 months. it was hoped it could reopen in time for easter, but under current plans zoos will be shut until at least the 12th of april. over the easter period we're due to lose over £2 million of revenue that we're expected to take. it does have a massive impact, if you think about how long we've been closed over the past year. i'm really worried now that if we don't start getting visitors back in, we can't survive. the pandemic has highlighted the issue of loneliness in london. all this week, we're looking at the difference the community has made on the alton estate in roehampton. one charity working in the area says those in need of support because they're isolated. has increased in the last year. regenerate rise now helps hundreds of older people on the estate. you've got to stay positive, you know. otherwise you're really down in the doldrums. and if it wasn't for regenerate, i'd feel completely cut off.

let's take a look at the travel situation now. it's all looking good on the tubes. turning to the roads briefly, in putney heath there are delays on west hill from tibbet�*s corner towards wandsworth because of roadworks. in tottenham, white hart lane remains part closed in both directions due to a police investigation following a fatal stabbing yesterday afternoon. the m25 is down to one lane clockwise from junction 29 for romford tojunction 30 for lakeside. now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello, good morning. it's all change tomorrow, when it's going to be very wet and windy. but for today, a fairly pleasant day of weather ahead for early spring. we start off with temperatures above freezing, so it's not as chilly as it was this time yesterday. a bit of cloud milling around this morning, but that will thin and break. we'll see some decent spells of sunshine emerge. sunny spells again this afternoon, and the winds will start to freshen by the time we get to the end

of the day. top temperatures in double figures again, slightly higher than yesterday's, 11 or 12 degrees celsius, that's 54 in fahrenheit. now through this evening and overnight, the cloud is going to thicken from the west. it'll feel milder, but the wind picks up further and there'll be outbreaks of rain moving eastwards into the start of the day tomorrow. so it's really a wet start to the morning. and it's going to stay wet all day. there'll be some heavy downpours of rain through the day on wednesday. some strong, gusty winds. there's a met office weather warning in place for the strength of the winds on wednesday night into thursday. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. a current legal loophole in england and wales means sports coaches and faith leaders aren't breaking

the law if they have sexual relationships with 16 and 17 year olds. now, new legislation is being introduced to make it illegal. it's one a number of changes to policing and criminal justice that will be raised in parliament today. thejustice secretary robert buckland joins us now. thank you very much for being with us. we will get to some of those police reforms. ijust want us. we will get to some of those police reforms. i just want to ask you this morning, obviously the interview with oprah that harry and meghan have done in the last 24 hours is what a lot of the nation are waking up to again. have you seen it? ., �* ., ., ., �* seen it? no, i'm afraid i haven't come a darn- — seen it? no, i'm afraid i haven't come a darn. like _ seen it? no, i'm afraid i haven't come a darn. like a _ seen it? no, i'm afraid i haven't come a darn. like a lot - seen it? no, i'm afraid i haven't come a darn. like a lot of- seen it? no, i'm afraid i haven't come a darn. like a lot of the i come a darn. like a lot of the nation i was busy doing a lot of things last night, most chiefly work. so i have not seen the interview. i know it has been commented on a lot. i don't think i can add anything, frankly, and i don't think i should, bearing in mind i think this is a matterfor buckingham palace and the royal

family. and it's not for ministers to start adding their contribution to start adding their contribution to a running commentary. i understand that. with that in mind, i will only ask you one other question on it and that will be based on what sir keir starmer said yesterday. he said accusations made by meghan la grande harry should be taken seriously. do you think the palace should be reviewing what was said and who said it? i palace should be reviewing what was said and who said it?— said and who said it? i think that is a matter— said and who said it? i think that is a matter for _ said and who said it? i think that is a matter for the _ said and who said it? i think that is a matter for the palace - said and who said it? i think that is a matter for the palace to - said and who said it? i think thatj is a matter for the palace to deal with. it is not for me and other ministers to comment on. i think it is left —— best left there. i've not seen the interview, so i don't think it would be right to speak about something i have not seen. hopefully ou can something i have not seen. hopefully you can talk — something i have not seen. hopefully you can talk to _ something i have not seen. hopefully you can talk to us _ something i have not seen. hopefully you can talk to us about _ something i have not seen. hopefully you can talk to us about these - you can talk to us about these police reforms. the story we introduced you with was about to sport cultures and religious leaders being added to the position of trust list, which makes it illegalfor them to have sexual activity with 16 and 17—year—olds. i'm sure many of our viewers watching and listening this morning will be amazed that

this morning will be amazed that this isn't the case already. why is it only happening now?— it only happening now? i think everybody _ it only happening now? i think everybody knows _ it only happening now? i think everybody knows that - it only happening now? i think everybody knows that at - it only happening now? i think everybody knows that at the i it only happening now? i think l everybody knows that at the age it only happening now? i think - everybody knows that at the age of 16 is the age of consent for sexual relations. we are dealing with young people transitioning from childhood into adulthood. and naturally, there is a balance to be struck. for a long time teachers, social workers, that type of relationship has been within criminal law. having looked at the body of evidence and some of the really worrying cases involved in dashwood mike involving sports coaches and religious leaders, you have got an authority that can be and is sometimes a sadly abused. i thought of the time for action was now. we have got to make sure that we protect our young people, whilst at the same time we need to recognise, of course, when you are 16 and 17, that is the time when you start to have those adult relationships and the balance needs to be struck carefully.—

to be struck carefully. there was a ministry of — to be struck carefully. there was a ministry ofjustice _ to be struck carefully. there was a ministry ofjustice review - to be struck carefully. there was a ministry ofjustice review to - to be struck carefully. there was a ministry ofjustice review to this i ministry ofjustice review to this in 2018 and nothing happened. i was that? at that — in 2018 and nothing happened. i was that? at that time _ in 2018 and nothing happened. i was that? at that time |_ in 2018 and nothing happened. i was that? at that time i was _ in 2018 and nothing happened. i —" that? at that time i was coming into office. i immediately recognised that i thought action was needed. that is why i've worked hard with officials to scope out what needed to be done. i pay tribute to people like tanni grey—thompson, tracy crouch mp, who have been campaigning on this and have been lobbying me hard on this issue over the past year. now we have the opportunity with his new law to do something about it and i would like to be able to take that action. ok. about it and i would like to be able to take that action.— about it and i would like to be able to take that action. ok, so you are aware of it — to take that action. ok, so you are aware of it when _ to take that action. ok, so you are aware of it when you _ to take that action. ok, so you are aware of it when you first _ to take that action. ok, so you are aware of it when you first came - to take that action. ok, so you are | aware of it when you first came into office back then but it has taken some persuading to convince you of the change, is that what you are saying? the change, is that what you are sa in: ? ., ., , the change, is that what you are sa inc? ., ., , ., saying? no, it has taken a bit of work because — saying? no, it has taken a bit of work because i _ saying? no, it has taken a bit of work because i needed - saying? no, it has taken a bit of work because i needed to - saying? no, it has taken a bit of work because i needed to work. saying? no, it has taken a bit of. work because i needed to work with officials to make sure we got the ambit of this right and the definitions right and we had —— we have the opportunity to take action. one of the other things in these

reforms is the extension to stop and search powers. a fifth of stop and search powers. a fifth of stop and search cases reviewed were done when the evidence behind them was weak. oily police need more these powers? well, i think it's important to emphasise the point that gone are the days when police were just on a whim picking people out in terms of stop and search without any information or intelligence behind it. that's an —— that has to be at the heart of the sensible use of stop and search, which can save lives and protect people from the use of weapons. what these provisions do is allow police officers to check people pass my convictions, people who they might reasonably suspect. and if that person does have a conviction for possession or use of an offensive weapon, that may be grounds for a stop and search. i think it is a reasonable adjustment that we have

made. i believe that police can be trusted to do this sensitively. we are all aware of the dangers of going back to a randomisation which can often discriminate against people from black and ethnic minority backgrounds. that is not what we want or intend to see. this is a sensible adjustment which will help police in their important work in protecting young people. fin help police in their important work in protecting young people. on that issue can i read _ in protecting young people. on that issue can i read you _ in protecting young people. on that issue can i read you a _ in protecting young people. on that issue can i read you a quote - in protecting young people. on that issue can i read you a quote from i issue can i read you a quote from the former metropolitan police superintendent leroy logan, who has been vocal about racial prejudice in the past. he says, police cannot stop and search their way out of rising violent crime problems. are you listening to officers, mr buckland?— you listening to officers, mr buckland? , , . ., ., buckland? well, yes. we are not sa in: buckland? well, yes. we are not saying that _ buckland? well, yes. we are not saying that stop _ buckland? well, yes. we are not saying that stop and _ buckland? well, yes. we are not saying that stop and search - buckland? well, yes. we are not saying that stop and search is i buckland? well, yes. we are not| saying that stop and search is the only tool in the box, far from it. there are other things that are really important. for example, identifying those young people who are truly victims of crime. and i'm thinking in particular of drugs and county lines gangs, which often

involve the exploitation of people. police are getting more savvy about how they deal with this problem. it is sometimes easy to point the finger and treat everybody as a criminal, whereas a lot of these particularly younger people are victims themselves of control and abuse. i am saying that will be scaled up and i have been hugely impressed by operations notjust in the metropolitan police but across the metropolitan police but across the country and targeting that kind of crime and protecting young people on that a cycle of criminality. fine on that a cycle of criminality. one other issue. _ on that a cycle of criminality. one other issue, mr _ on that a cycle of criminality. one other issue, mr buchan. lots of our viewers have been contacting us and contacting you as mps about, about theissue contacting you as mps about, about the issue of nhs pay. just to run through the history. the government agreed a 2.1% pay rise in 2018 for nhs. that was enshrined in parliament in the nhs funding act of 2020. why now are you only offering

1%? ~ ~ �* , , 1%? well, i think it's very important _ 1%? well, i think it's very important to _ 1%? well, i think it's very important to note - 1%? well, i think it's very important to note that i 1%? well, i think it's very - important to note that context, the changes that have been made in regards to pay, particularly for newly qualified nurses and existing pay scales and pay spines which rewards experience and the work that has been done. where we are is this is the beginning of the process. the final recommendations have not yet been made. we have got to remember that in the suedes of public sector there will be a pay freeze for the lowest paid. i don't think at the moment we are at the end of this process. i think we need to see what the recommendations are. and i very much hope that the outcome, whilst it might not be an outcome in these difficult circumstances that will result in pay rises that everybody would want to see, that the work that has been done by nhs workers will be recognised in a way that is

appropriate, bearing in mind of the constraints that we are all under. so if the recommendation came back at 2.1%, you would support it, would you? at 2.1%, you would support it, would ou? �* . at 2.1%, you would support it, would ou? �* , ., ., ., at 2.1%, you would support it, would ou? �*, ., ., ., , ., ., you? it's not for me to start to -are'ude you? it's not for me to start to prejudge what _ you? it's not for me to start to prejudge what the _ you? it's not for me to start to prejudge what the outcome i you? it's not for me to start to prejudge what the outcome of| you? it's not for me to start to i prejudge what the outcome of the negotiations is. i am simply pointing out the fact that the beginning of that process and we will have to see what the accommodations are. but will have to see what the accommodations are. �* , ., . , accommodations are. but you surely a- reciate accommodations are. but you surely appreciate that _ accommodations are. but you surely appreciate that yet _ accommodations are. but you surely appreciate that yet again _ accommodations are. but you surely appreciate that yet again the - appreciate that yet again the government is in that position for mounting —— that there is mounting pressure for a u—turn. you seem to be out of step with public sympathy? well, what we are trying to do is balance the need to deal with the covid crisis and spend huge amounts of money on making this country as safe as possible, but at the same time to remember of course that the pressure on public finances is severe. and it is trying to get that balance right. that is all we are attempting to do. it is difficult.

choices can sometimes lead to controversy. but we need to not prejudge what might happen when this negotiation —— with this negotiation and i'm certainly not going to do that today. we and i'm certainly not going to do that today-— that today. we will follow that closel . that today. we will follow that closely- one _ that today. we will follow that closely. one other— that today. we will follow that closely. one other issue. - that today. we will follow that closely. one other issue. you| that today. we will follow that i closely. one other issue. you will be aware that many students, thousands of pupils, returning to school for the first time this week and in the coming days. there is concern around lateral flow tests being done by pupils. i know you are aware of this, butjust being done by pupils. i know you are aware of this, but just to being done by pupils. i know you are aware of this, butjust to keep our viewers up to date, if you have a lateral flow test at home and it is positive, you can have a pcr test. if that is negative you can come out of nick —— isolation. if you have the lateral flow test in school that is seen as being correct and there is seen as being correct and there is no pcr test. experts are worried about pot —— false positives. if there were to be .1% of a false positive, that is 6000 students that ben cannot go to school and are not having a pcr test to check that lateral flow test. that is thousands

of students and members of their family, potentially close contact at school as well, were then taken out of the education system, which they have already missed out on for many months. there are many experts who are saying you are undermining the entire initiative by not allowing a pcr test for a positive lateral flow test in school. what do you say to that of this morning?— test in school. what do you say to that of this morning? well, look, i think that is _ that of this morning? well, look, i think that is a — that of this morning? well, look, i think that is a very _ that of this morning? well, look, i think that is a very important - think that is a very important contribution. the current arrangements, of course, will remain until easter when we will review them. i think there was an important differentiation to be made between the work being done in schools by staff who are doing it in controlled conditions and what might happen at home. with the best will in the world we all know the pressures of home life. i thought that having that extra qualifying test was sensible. i think in school it is more controlled environment. it's probably safer to rely upon the lateral flow test results. you are right to talk about the number of false positives. it is very small in

the overall scheme of things. but i take on board the observations made. yesterday was reported to be a good day. i think we need to trust staff and pupils and students and parents to get on with the current system. and as i said, the matter will be reviewed during the easter holidays. so if there are huge problems with the false positives issue, you will look at that and potentially change it? ~ ~ �* , look at that and potentially change it? ~ it? well, i think it's always right to kee a it? well, i think it's always right to keep a close _ it? well, i think it's always right to keep a close eye _ it? well, i think it's always right to keep a close eye on - it? well, i think it's always right to keep a close eye on what - it? well, i think it's always right to keep a close eye on what is l to keep a close eye on what is happening. i know that my colleagues in the department for education will be doing that. i think it is right to let the current system take its course. but as i said, there will be a review of this during the easter holidays to make sure that it is running to its best possible potential. running to its best possible potential-— running to its best possible otential. ., , �* a ., potential. ok, robert buckland, thank ou potential. ok, robert buckland, thank you for— potential. ok, robert buckland, thank you for being _ potential. ok, robert buckland, thank you for being with - potential. ok, robert buckland, thank you for being with us. - thank you for being with us. it is coming up to quarter to eight. sally is here to tell us what is going on in the world of sport. ththd going on in the world of sport. and tood for going on in the world of sport. and good for chelsea at the moment? yes, putting together a good run at the moment.

another win for chelsea keeps them in the champions league places. they beat everton 2—0 at stamford bridge. the visitors fell behind in unfortunate fashion, when ben godfrey deflected kai havertz�*s effort into his own net. jorginho's penalty in the second half means it's now 11 unbeaten for manager thomas tuchel. west ham are chasing a top four place as well. craig dawson got their second goal in a 2—0 over leeds. it means they leapfrog everton into fifth, two points behind chelsea and with a game in hand. we're driving each other on, that we can try and do something special. but, you know, a lot of the things we're doing at the moment is a lot better than what's happened in the past, but i'm certainly not settling for it. in fact, i think when you get nearer the top it actually gives you a bigger incentive. i was gutted when we dropped out of the top four last week. but obviously, there's an awful lot of good teams around us. if we don't make it, then it'll be because they're better than us. the gb women's football team will be led by interim england manager hege riise at this summer's olympics. riise is leading the england side

on a temporary basis following phil neville's departure. after the games she will be succeeded by sarina wiegman, who will manage her own netherlands team in tokyo. novak djokovic says chasing the records set by roger federer and rafa nadal are one of his biggest motivations to keep playing tennis the world number one was honoured in belgrade last night for spending more weeks leading the rankings than any other player. it's his fifth spell in top spot and a record 311th week in that position. the rivalries that obviously i had with federer and nadal over the years have made me also a stronger and better player. and of course they also keep motivating me even more to keep going and of course, you know, each one of us has their own uniquejourney and you know, each one of us has their own unique journey and it's wonderful to share the stage with them. i've been speaking to the daughter of the former manchester united footballer, gordon mcqueen,

who has been diagnosed with dementia. you can watch the full interview here on breakfastjust after eight. there we can see gordon mcqueen in his pomp of playing for scotland. i know that was one of his best moments ever, one of his favourite moments ever, one of his favourite moments in football. we have been talking to his daughter, the broadcaster hayley mcqueen, about his recent dementia diagnosis and the family because my concern is that its dementia has been caused by a lifelong career in football, heading the ball so many times. brute heading the ball so many times. we are heading the ball so many times. - are going to see that interviewer ten past eight. thank you. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. idid ask i did ask you earlier to 20 heaters up i did ask you earlier to 20 heaters up because it was particularly chilly this morning. so if you can sort that out, that would be great. thank you. just for you, don! it is not going to be as cold this morning

as it has been. some places are below freezing. look at the start in woodstock in oxfordshire. a beautiful sunrise. a bit on the frosty side. today it is going to be quiet for much of the day. would later the wind will pick up in the west and that heralds a change in the forecast for what we have been used to. strong winds, severe gales, evenin used to. strong winds, severe gales, even in london in the next few days and nights. some heavy rain. we have got clear skies to start with. some sunshine in southern areas. in the west there is more cloud with some spots of rain. that will push east through the day. for many it will be dry and bright. forsome through the day. for many it will be dry and bright. for some it will be sunny. but then in the afternoon more rain in northern ireland and western scotland. it is notjust rain. the wind is going to strengthen. represented by these black circles. that tells you the strength of the wind. overnight it is going to be windy. you can see this band of rain pushing southwards and eastwards, clearing scotland and

northern ireland but leaving showers and on the tops of the hills and mountains they are likely to be wintry. as we head into tomorrow, the rain doesn't really care england and wales. it tries to but it is met by the next batch coming in from the west. again, gusty winds wherever you are. it is overnight wednesday to thursday when we see the strongest, potentially disruptive winds. keep tuned. i will watch very carefully, carol. as ever. throughout the pandemic the hard work and dedication of care workers has been brought into sharp focus, but the sector is in need of more staff. now, a new government campaign has been launched to encourage people to switch careers and sign up, with encouragement from some famous faces. let's take a look. carers are carers a re really carers are really special people. my dad had dementia and was helped enormously. my dad had dementia and was helped enormously-— enormously. my nan, in the last coule enormously. my nan, in the last couple of _ enormously. my nan, in the last couple of years _ enormously. my nan, in the last couple of years of _ enormously. my nan, in the last couple of years of her— enormously. my nan, in the last couple of years of her life, - enormously. my nan, in the last couple of years of her life, she i enormously. my nan, in the last. couple of years of her life, she was in residential care. they looked

after her. they looked after all of us. . ., ~ after her. they looked after all of us. ~ ., " . ., after her. they looked after all of us. working in care you've got to be 0 en and us. working in care you've got to be open and positive. _ us. working in care you've got to be open and positive. for— us. working in care you've got to be open and positive. for the - us. working in care you've got to be open and positive. for the first - open and positive. for the first time in a _ open and positive. for the first time in a long _ open and positive. for the first time in a long time _ open and positive. for the first time in a long time i _ open and positive. for the first time in a long time i go - open and positive. for the first time in a long time i go to - open and positive. for the first| time in a long time i go to work open and positive. for the first - time in a long time i go to work and i love going to work. i smile. ii i love going to work. i smile. if anybody is thinking about a job in adult _ anybody is thinking about a job in adult social— anybody is thinking about a job in adult social care, _ anybody is thinking about a job in adult social care, go _ anybody is thinking about a job in adult social care, go for - anybody is thinking about a job in adult social care, go for it. - anybody is thinking about a job in adult social care, go for it. just i adult social care, go for it. just do it. adult social care, go for it. just do it- you _ adult social care, go for it. just do it. you will _ adult social care, go for it. just do it. you will love _ adult social care, go for it. just do it. you will love it. - we'rejoined now from london by choreographer and presenter arlene phillips, and sian dicker, a former opera singer, who has been working as a carer since the early days of the pandemic. lovely to see you both. why did you want to be involved in this, arlene? i wanted to get involved for two reasons — i wanted to get involved for two reasons. one is adult social care were _ reasons. one is adult social care were an — reasons. one is adult social care were an enormous help to me when my father— were an enormous help to me when my father had _ were an enormous help to me when my father had dementia. i couldn't have managed _ father had dementia. i couldn't have managed without them. but also, working _ managed without them. but also, working within the theatre, so many people _ working within the theatre, so many people that i am in touch with her

looking _ people that i am in touch with her looking for— people that i am in touch with her looking for a future. they are nervous — looking for a future. they are nervous about theatre, they are nervous — nervous about theatre, they are nervous about theatre, they are nervous about how many months i have been out _ nervous about how many months i have been out of _ nervous about how many months i have been out of work and went into adult social— been out of work and went into adult social care _ been out of work and went into adult social care and find that they have fallen _ social care and find that they have fallen in _ social care and find that they have fallen in love with what they are doing _ fallen in love with what they are doint. �* ,, ., fallen in love with what they are doint. . ,, ., , ., ., fallen in love with what they are doint. . ,, ., ,., ., doing. and if shan is one of those --eole. doing. and if shan is one of those people- you _ doing. and if shan is one of those people- you are _ doing. and if shan is one of those people. you are an _ doing. and if shan is one of those people. you are an opera - doing. and if shan is one of those people. you are an opera singer. | people. you are an opera singer. what did you choose to do? 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given time just to take him for a walk _ given time just to take him for a walk and — given time just to take him for a walk. and again, reading to him when he could _ walk. and again, reading to him when he could no— walk. and again, reading to him when he could no longer read. all the things— he could no longer read. all the things that can fill in person as strong — things that can fill in person as strong in — things that can fill in person as strong in their minds as it possibly can't _ strong in their minds as it possibly can't be _ strong in their minds as it possibly can't be at — strong in their minds as it possibly can't be. at the moment there is a crisis _ can't be. at the moment there is a crisis in _ can't be. at the moment there is a crisis in searching for a carers, they— crisis in searching for a carers, they are — crisis in searching for a carers, they are needed at every level. you can go— they are needed at every level. you can go into — they are needed at every level. you can go into it— they are needed at every level. you can go into it without qualifications. you can be trained. and i_ qualifications. you can be trained. and i have — qualifications. you can be trained. and i have found the people i know that have _ and i have found the people i know that have taken a very different path _ that have taken a very different path in — that have taken a very different path in life have found what they are doing — path in life have found what they are doing is really emotionally fulfilling, and also something that they feel, this is a job that will always. — they feel, this is a job that will always, always go on and always happeh — always, always go on and always happen lt— always, always go on and always ha en. . always, always go on and always ha i ten, , ., , , always, always go on and always hauen. . ., , , ., happen. it is really interesting to hear the impact _ happen. it is really interesting to hear the impact that _ happen. it is really interesting to hear the impact that it _ happen. it is really interesting to hear the impact that it had - happen. it is really interesting to hear the impact that it had on i hear the impact that it had on members of yourfamily. i am sure members of yourfamily. i am sure members of yourfamily. i am sure members of many other families who are watching you both this morning.

from your perspective sian, we are hearing how emotionally fulfilling it is. how have you found that from the jobs you have it is. how have you found that from thejobs you have been doing? filth. the jobs you have been doing? oh, absolutely- — the jobs you have been doing? oh, absolutely- as _ the jobs you have been doing? oh, absolutely. as opera singers, the biggest _ absolutely. as opera singers, the biggest part— absolutely. as opera singers, the biggest part of— absolutely. as opera singers, the biggest part of what _ absolutely. as opera singers, the biggest part of what we _ absolutely. as opera singers, the biggest part of what we do - absolutely. as opera singers, the biggest part of what we do is- absolutely. as opera singers, the i biggest part of what we do is about communicating _ biggest part of what we do is about communicating with _ biggest part of what we do is about communicating with an _ biggest part of what we do is about communicating with an audience i biggest part of what we do is about. communicating with an audience and being _ communicating with an audience and being able _ communicating with an audience and being able to — communicating with an audience and being able to make _ communicating with an audience and being able to make a _ communicating with an audience and being able to make a difference - 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someone's day, the little bits of help that — someone's day, the little bits of help that we _ someone's day, the little bits of help that we are _ someone's day, the little bits of help that we are able _ someone's day, the little bits of help that we are able to - someone's day, the little bits of help that we are able to give - someone's day, the little bits of. help that we are able to give them that had _ help that we are able to give them that had a — help that we are able to give them that had a huge _ help that we are able to give them that had a huge impact— help that we are able to give them that had a huge impact on- help that we are able to give them that had a huge impact on their. that had a huge impact on their quality— that had a huge impact on their quality of— that had a huge impact on their quality of life _ that had a huge impact on their quality of life. that _ that had a huge impact on their quality of life. that is _ that had a huge impact on their quality of life. that is so - quality of life. that is so rewarding _ quality of life. that is so rewarding.— quality of life. that is so rewardina. ,, ~' quality of life. that is so rewardint. ,, ~ , rewarding. do you think when things chance, rewarding. do you think when things change. when _ rewarding. do you think when things change. when you — rewarding. do you think when things change, when you go _ rewarding. do you think when things change, when you go back _ rewarding. do you think when things change, when you go back to - rewarding. do you think when things change, when you go back to opera l change, when you go back to opera singing or try to do both? i am ho eful singing or try to do both? i am hopeful to _ singing or try to do both? i am hopeful to keep _ singing or try to do both? i am hopeful to keep trying - singing or try to do both? i am hopeful to keep trying to - singing or try to do both? i am hopeful to keep trying to do both. i have been— hopeful to keep trying to do both. i have been doing _ hopeful to keep trying to do both. i have been doing let's— hopeful to keep trying to do both. i have been doing let's —— _ hopeful to keep trying to do both. i have been doing let's —— little - hopeful to keep trying to do both. i have been doing let's —— little bitsl have been doing let's —— little bits of singing — have been doing let's —— little bits of singing work— have been doing let's —— little bits of singing work in— have been doing let's —— little bits of singing work in the _ have been doing let's —— little bits of singing work in the past - have been doing let's —— little bits of singing work in the past few - of singing work in the past few months — of singing work in the past few months as— of singing work in the past few months as things _ of singing work in the past few months as things have - of singing work in the past few i months as things have gradually lifted _ months as things have gradually lifted i— months as things have gradually lifted i am _ months as things have gradually lifted. lam really— months as things have gradually lifted. i am really hopeful- months as things have gradually lifted. i am really hopeful that i| lifted. i am really hopeful that i

would _ lifted. i am really hopeful that i would be — lifted. i am really hopeful that i would be able _ lifted. i am really hopeful that i would be able to _ lifted. i am really hopeful that i would be able to continue - lifted. i am really hopeful that i would be able to continue to . lifted. i am really hopeful that i - would be able to continue to juggle the two _ would be able to continue to juggle the two i_ would be able to continue to juggle the two. i already _ would be able to continue to juggle the two. i already did _ would be able to continue to juggle the two. i already did a _ would be able to continue to juggle the two. i already did a little - would be able to continue to juggle the two. i already did a little bit - the two. i already did a little bit of work— the two. i already did a little bit of work singing _ the two. i already did a little bit of work singing with _ the two. i already did a little bit of work singing with an - the two. i already did a little bit - of work singing with an organisation going _ of work singing with an organisation going into _ of work singing with an organisation going into care _ of work singing with an organisation going into care homes. _ of work singing with an organisation going into care homes. and - of work singing with an organisation going into care homes. and giving i going into care homes. and giving live performances _ going into care homes. and giving| live performances pre—covid—mac. going into care homes. and giving i live performances pre—covid—mac. i am really— live performances pre—covid—mac. i am really hopeful _ live performances pre—covid—mac. i am really hopeful that _ live performances pre—covid—mac. i am really hopeful that after- live performances pre—covid—mac. i am really hopeful that after all- live performances pre—covid—mac. i am really hopeful that after all of. am really hopeful that after all of this i_ am really hopeful that after all of this i will— am really hopeful that after all of this i will be _ am really hopeful that after all of this i will be able _ am really hopeful that after all of this i will be able to _ am really hopeful that after all of this i will be able to make - am really hopeful that after all of this i will be able to make that i am really hopeful that after all of this i will be able to make that a i this i will be able to make that a much _ this i will be able to make that a much bigger— this i will be able to make that a much bigger focus— this i will be able to make that a much bigger focus of— this i will be able to make that a much bigger focus of my- this i will be able to make that a much bigger focus of my work. i this i will be able to make that a . much bigger focus of my work. that would _ much bigger focus of my work. that would be _ much bigger focus of my work. that would be lovely _ much bigger focus of my work. that would be lovely.— much bigger focus of my work. that would be lovely. good on you. thank ou both. would be lovely. good on you. thank you both- lovely _ would be lovely. good on you. thank you both. lovely to _ would be lovely. good on you. thank you both. lovely to speak _ would be lovely. good on you. thank you both. lovely to speak to - would be lovely. good on you. thank you both. lovely to speak to you. . despite calls for more people to switch careers — like sian has — figures show that last year there were around 112,000 care vacancies in england, at any given time. we'rejoined now by nadra ahmed, the chair of the national care association. morning to you. it is wonderful to hear that experience. how worried are you by these existing vacancies? i think we are really worried because _ i think we are really worried because at the end of the day if we don't _ because at the end of the day if we don't have — because at the end of the day if we don't have the people to deliver the care we _ don't have the people to deliver the care we just can't do it. and we

know— care we just can't do it. and we know that — care we just can't do it. and we know that care services, especially the small— know that care services, especially the small to medium sized that we look after. — the small to medium sized that we look after, are actually telling us that they — look after, are actually telling us that they can't get the staff and therefore they won't be able to deliver— therefore they won't be able to deliver the service. how therefore they won't be able to deliver the service.— therefore they won't be able to deliver the service. how do you feel the process — deliver the service. how do you feel the process of— deliver the service. how do you feel the process of recruiting _ deliver the service. how do you feel the process of recruiting is - the process of recruiting is actually working? we heard shannon talking about how she did her online training. if somebody is watching this morning and thinking that potentially that is something they would like to do, how does that process actually work? i would like to do, how does that process actually work?- would like to do, how does that process actually work? i think if ou've process actually work? i think if you've got _ process actually work? i think if you've got a _ process actually work? i think if you've got a care _ process actually work? i think if you've got a care home - process actually work? i think if you've got a care home nearby, j process actually work? i think if. you've got a care home nearby, and you've got a care home nearby, and you think— you've got a care home nearby, and you think it's — you've got a care home nearby, and you think it's something that you would _ you think it's something that you would want to do, then it's really important — would want to do, then it's really important to let it be known to them and see _ important to let it be known to them and see what they can help you with, 'ust and see what they can help you with, just to _ and see what they can help you with, just to try— and see what they can help you with, just to try to — and see what they can help you with, just to try to encourage you. volunteering to start with, if that is what _ volunteering to start with, if that is what it — volunteering to start with, if that is what it is. we can do all of that through— is what it is. we can do all of that through this — is what it is. we can do all of that through this pandemic. with all the precautions that we need to take. but we _ precautions that we need to take. but we can— precautions that we need to take. but we can do that to encourage people — but we can do that to encourage people. and also to remember that there _ people. and also to remember that there are _ people. and also to remember that

there are so many different careers within— there are so many different careers within the _ there are so many different careers within the social care setting. so cooking — within the social care setting. so cooking, admin work, maintenance, there _ cooking, admin work, maintenance, there are _ cooking, admin work, maintenance, there are lots and lots of different things— there are lots and lots of different things that we do as well as the caret _ things that we do as well as the care, which is all essential. we all make _ care, which is all essential. we all make up— care, which is all essential. we all make up that team to deliver the service _ make up that team to deliver the service to — make up that team to deliver the service to the vulnerable. so if you have _ service to the vulnerable. so if you have got _ service to the vulnerable. so if you have got the compassion, if you know that that _ have got the compassion, if you know that that would make a huge difference to your life as well as somebody else's life, you can move that forward. take that step and see what it _ that forward. take that step and see what it takes you. we can provide all the _ what it takes you. we can provide all the training. what we need is people _ all the training. what we need is people with that golden thread of empathy, of compassion, of recognising that there are needs for other— recognising that there are needs for other people, that they will be able to support — other people, that they will be able to support physical and mental health— to support physical and mental health needs. all of that comes as a package _ health needs. all of that comes as a package. and what you learn as you .et package. and what you learn as you get a _ package. and what you learn as you get a life _ package. and what you learn as you get a life skills. so everything we do will— get a life skills. so everything we do will go — get a life skills. so everything we do will go with you wherever you go. so whether— do will go with you wherever you go. so whether it is first aid, food hygiene _ so whether it is first aid, food hygiene, whatever it might be, and it can _ hygiene, whatever it might be, and it can be _ hygiene, whatever it might be, and it can be a— hygiene, whatever it might be, and it can be a career pathway that you

could _ it can be a career pathway that you could take — it can be a career pathway that you could take. so absolutely, take that step and _ could take. so absolutely, take that step and see where it takes you. you ma be step and see where it takes you. tj'fi�*l. may be surprised. we heard about the emotional fulfilment from the job. you are struggling to hold on to people in those jobs, you are struggling to hold on to people in thosejobs, why you are struggling to hold on to people in those jobs, why is that? it isn't an easy role to fulfil. we know _ it isn't an easy role to fulfil. we know it's — it isn't an easy role to fulfil. we know it's stressful. i think also we know— know it's stressful. i think also we know that — know it's stressful. i think also we know that through this pandemic we've _ know that through this pandemic we've got— know that through this pandemic we've got a staff group that are exhausted, they are absolutely exhausted. they are covering shifts when _ exhausted. they are covering shifts when people are going off. we need to do over— when people are going off. we need to do over staff at this moment in time _ to do over staff at this moment in time what— to do over staff at this moment in time. what we haven't got is we haven't— time. what we haven't got is we haven't got a reform package from government that looks at the true funding _ government that looks at the true funding for social care. so moving this forward is a massive task. but the more — this forward is a massive task. but the more people willing to work in the more people willing to work in the sector, — the more people willing to work in the sector, the less stress it will be for— the sector, the less stress it will be for other people already in that sector— be for other people already in that sector who — be for other people already in that sector who are caring and have been. not only— sector who are caring and have been. not only for— sector who are caring and have been. not only for the past year, which has been — not only for the past year, which has been an extraordinary year, and they are _ has been an extraordinary year, and they are extra ordinary people doing

an extraordinaryjob, but before that _ an extraordinaryjob, but before that we — an extraordinaryjob, but before that. we have moved from being social— that. we have moved from being social care — that. we have moved from being social care, to delivering what is technically— social care, to delivering what is technically a health care service. and looking after people's need to, supporting people, including friends into the _ supporting people, including friends into the service. we supporting people, including friends into the service.— into the service. we are there for everybody- _ into the service. we are there for everybody- to — into the service. we are there for everybody. to talk _ into the service. we are there for everybody. to talk to _ into the service. we are there for everybody. to talk to you. - into the service. we are there for everybody. to talk to you. the i into the service. we are there for. everybody. to talk to you. the chair of the care association. the care association. stay with us, headlines coming up.

good morning, welcome to breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. our headlines today. buckingham palace remains silent 24 hours after the first broadcast of harry and meghan's oprah interview. but in the us, friends of the couple rally round. their cruelty in going after meghan was just outrageous. a lawyer for anne sacoolas, the american woman who caused the death of harry dunn in 2019, has explained why she is not willing to stand trial in the uk. the daughter of former scotland, manchester united and leeds footballer gordon mcqueen speaks for the first time since her father was diagnosed with dementia. there have been moments where i'm like, god, i can't believe the thing that gave him so much love has now so cruelly taken a lot of him away from us. it comes as a parliamentary inquiry is launched into the links between sport

and long—term brain injury. can she win the gold? she's going to get it! keely hodgkinson! gold for great britain. and we'll hear from gb's youngest european indoor champion since 1970. 800 metre runner, keely hodgkinson. enough is enough. boots, sky, 02join dozens of businesses asking for a new law to protect their staff from abuse from customers following a surge in cases over lockdown. are fairly quiet day weather ahead of us until later on, winds will strengthen end we will have unsettled conditions for the next few days and nights. it's tuesday 9th march. our top story. the royal family remains silent more

than 24 hours after the duke and duchess of sussex's explosive interview with oprah winfrey. in the broadcast, watched by millions worldwide, meghan raised allegations of racism and a lack of support from within the institution. keith doyle has more. viewers in the uk got to watch the full interview last night and the fallout this morning is nuclear. the headlines could not be worse for the palace. turmoil and crisis. they are no less forgiving on the other side of the atlantic. tonight, oprah's interview with the duke and duchess of sussex just aired for the first time in the uk. now britain braces for fallout. despite being previewed, teased and dominating the news, the claims made and heard in the context of the full two hour interview are still able to shock. claims that meghan was driven close to suicide and that a member of the royal family discussed the skin colour of the duke and duchess's soon—to—be born child. in those months when i was pregnant,

all around this same time, so we have in tandem the conversation of, he won't be given security, he's not going to be given a title. and also, concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he's born. what? neither meghan or harry would say who made those comments but oprah winfrey followed up that interview with information she got from harry. he did not share the identity with me but he wanted to make sure that i knew and if i had the opportunity to share it, that it was not his grandmother nor his grandfather that were a part of those conversations. throughout the interview, the picture painted was one of an uncaring and unsupportive institution, at odds with the image of being at the head of a multicultural country and commonwealth. in america, this summer, wejust went through the black lives matter movement and the killing of george

floyd. now, what we see, when we see this monarchy, we see an institution that we revere, and now we find out that you guys have the same issues of racial and racism, systemic racism, that we do in the united states. so, yes, it does hurt us. it almost seems like a fairy tale shattered for many of us. overnight there's been no comment from buckingham palace which is sure to be reeling from such explosive claims by those at the very heart of the royal family. all eyes and the media spotlight is on here today to see how or if it responds. i don't see buckingham palace as being like the kremlin. on the whole, they are a very civilised organisation. but i also don't think that they are likely to engage in this kind of war between two parties which of course the tabloid press would greatly enjoy. the harry and meghan love story was a fairy tale, and brought young, modern vitality into the royal family. this interview has brought up real

issues that can't easily be ignored. security, mental health and trust. just a few years on from the fairy tale, and for buckingham palace, all that has turned to crisis management on an epic scale. keith doyle, bbc news. there's also been plenty of reaction to the interview from the us, where it first aired. president biden's press secretary said it had taken "courage" for harry and meghan to speak about mental health, and the former secretary of state hillary clinton has also given her support to the duchess of sussex. meghan markle is a private citizen, and so is harry at this point. for anyone to come forward and speak about their own struggles with mental health and tell their own personal story, that takes courage and that is something the president believes. he has talked about the importance of investing in a lot of these areas that they are committed to in the future. their cruelty in going after meghan

wasjust outrageous. and the fact she did not get more support, that the reaction was, let'sjust paper it over and pretend that it didn't happen, or it will go away, just keep your head down, well, this young woman was not about to keep her head down, this is 2021. we will be talking about shortly, we will speak to our royal correspondent at 8:30am and also a mental health campaign about the implications of that interview. the american woman accused over the death of harry dunn would be willing to do community service and make a "contribution" in his memory, according to her lawyer. 19—year—old harry died when his motorcycle was involved in a collision with a car near raf croughton in 2019. anne sacoolas, who was driving the car, later returned to her home in the united states and claimed dimplomatic immunity. her lawyer has told the bbc she won't return

to the uk to stand trial. this kind of an accident, had it occurred in the united states, would not be prosecuted criminally. so in the united states, these cases are only prosecuted where there is evidence of recklessness that rises to the level of close to intent. so drunk driving, distracted driving, or a hit—and—run situation, or excessive speeding. but there was none of that here. in the last hour we have had reaction from harry's mum, charlotte, who says the only to resolve this is for anne sacoolas to come back and face the uk's justice system. she may well want to do community service. there's nothing we can do to influence that. she has to go through the uk justice system, and our ukjustice system, which we all know it's one of the fairest in the world, they will decide. she just needs to come back and get it over and done with. one of world's biggest beauty manufacturers has promised to stop

digitally altering images of their models in its advertising. unilever, which owns the brands dove and lynx, says it will stop airbrushing body shape and skin colour from now on. the company has also pledged to no longer use the word "normal" on packaging and adverts for all its beauty and personal care brands. sports coaches and faith leaders who have sexual relationships with 16 and 17—year—olds in their care will be breaking the law under new legislation planned for england and wales. the move would put them on par with roles like teachers and social workers. it's one of a number of measures being introduced in the commons later today. the bill also includes a proposal to increase sentences for child killers. detectives investigating the disappearance of a woman missing since wednesday say they remain open minded as to all possibilities. 33—year—old sarah everard was last spotted on cctv walking alone in clapham in south london. let's go to our reporter katharine carpenter, who's at clapham common.

it's been nearly a week now since sarah went missing, what's the latest? there is still a large search operation under way in this part of south london. here yesterday on clapham common, there was a police boat out on one of the ponds with a search dog. and on the south circular where sarah was last seen, there were teams of officers searching bins, skits and grassy areas, looking for any sign of what might have happened to her. she was visitin: might have happened to her. she was visiting friends _ might have happened to her. she was visiting friends on _ might have happened to her. she was visiting friends on wandsworth - might have happened to her. she was visiting friends on wandsworth on - visiting friends on wandsworth on wednesday night, and she left at 9pm _ wednesday night, and she left at 9pm the — wednesday night, and she left at 9pm. the police believe she chose a route _ 9pm. the police believe she chose a route across — 9pm. the police believe she chose a route across the common, to rejoin the south _ route across the common, to rejoin the south circular on the other side _ the south circular on the other side that _ the south circular on the other side. that is where she was last seen _ side. that is where she was last seen on — side. that is where she was last seen on cctv at 9:30pm. walking alone _ seen on cctv at 9:30pm. walking alone and — seen on cctv at 9:30pm. walking alone and wearing that distinctive green _ alone and wearing that distinctive green rain —

alone and wearing that distinctive green rainjacket, heading in the direction — green rainjacket, heading in the direction of home. she has not been seen or— direction of home. she has not been seen or heard from since. the police say although— seen or heard from since. the police say although she was heading in the direction _ say although she was heading in the direction of her house, they cannot be sure _ direction of her house, they cannot be sure if— direction of her house, they cannot be sure if she ever made it. they say they— be sure if she ever made it. they say they have spoken to 750 people during _ say they have spoken to 750 people during this — say they have spoken to 750 people during this search and take on more than 100 _ during this search and take on more than 100 calls from members of the public— than 100 calls from members of the public offering information. but they say— public offering information. but they say they still need more camera footage _ they say they still need more camera footage from delivery drivers, dashboard cameras, from delivery drivers. _ dashboard cameras, from delivery drivers. or— dashboard cameras, from delivery drivers, or perhaps video door bell footage _ drivers, or perhaps video door bell footage, they are still trying to piece _ footage, they are still trying to piece together what might have happened to her. the detective leading — happened to her. the detective leading the investigation says at this stage it is still very much a missing — this stage it is still very much a missing person investigation but she says she _ missing person investigation but she says she remains open for all possibilities. around this whole area _ possibilities. around this whole area there are posters like this, hearing — area there are posters like this, bearing sarah's image, as the search to find _ bearing sarah's image, as the search to find her— bearing sarah's image, as the search to find her intensifies. carol— to find her intensifies. carol can what is happening with the weather this morning.

good morning. for some of us it is a beautiful start to the day, as you can see from this weather watcher picture in kent, but after today, the weather goes downhill. as we go through the afternoon, the wind will strengthen in the west, some rain will arrive and for the next few days or nights that will be the forecast. clear skies across parts of england and north—east scotland this morning, a chilly start. in the west, some cloud and patchy rain, a weak weather front moving east through the day. by the end of the afternoon, we will have rain across northern ireland in western scotland but it will notjust be rain, the wind will strengthen and these black circles represent the strength of the wind gusts. through the evening and overnight, the rain advances are steadily eastwards and southwards, eventually clearing northern ireland and parts of scotland. there will be showers and on the hills and mountains in scotland they will be wintry but we should not have any issues with trust. tomorrow we start

off with all of this rain across england and wales. another weather front comes in behind it bringing more rain, another windy day with some transient snow on the hills and mountains in the north. this gives you an idea of the gust strength in the latter part of the afternoon tomorrow, 40, 45 for some of us, may be 60 miles an hour. as we go through the overnight period, wednesday into thursday, the wind will intensify and even inland we will intensify and even inland we will have severe gales with very large waves in the west and in the english channel. more details in half an hour. hayley mcqueen, the daughter of former scotland and manchester united footballer gordon mcqueen, has spoken to breakfast for the first time about her dad's dementia diagnosis. sally's here to tell us more. so much in the interview as well, sally? so much in the interview as well, sall ? , �* , ., .,

sally? yes, i'm very grateful to haley and _ sally? yes, i'm very grateful to haley and the _ sally? yes, i'm very grateful to haley and the mcqueen - sally? yes, i'm very grateful to haley and the mcqueen family| sally? yes, i'm very grateful to i haley and the mcqueen family for speaking so openly and honestly because the diagnosis that her dad has received is really very fresh. gordon mcqueen was known for his no—nonsense approach to the game and indeed his bravery in the air. back then he didn't know the risks that came with heading the ball. today, mps will discuss the long—term effects of sporting head injuries, and it is something his family are passionate about raising awareness of. they noticed a change in gordon some time ago but his dementia diagnosis is still very recent. you will recognise his daughter hayley, who is a well known sports journalist and broadcaster for sky television. here she describes the man who was always life and soul of any party. everyone's dad, are, you know, their hero. i didn't realise he was other people's hero as well. i don't think i really

understood quite what he did until i was about maybe eight or nine. mcqueen! there have been moments where i'm like, god, i can't believe the thing that gave him so much love has now so cruelly taken a lot of him away from us. hayley, you only very recently made the statement about your dad's diagnosis of vascular dementia. how is your dad at the moment? yeah, i think he's ok. every day is different, we take each day as it comes. but he knows he's got dementia and he knows there's something different about himself. he talks about feeling different and that he can't think straight sometimes. what were the circumstances of his diagnosis? caveit cave it has been hard as well, you think you feel very. —— covid has

been hard as well, you are on your own, you begin to feel very depressed and isolated. you own, you begin to feel very depressed and isolated. you are so close to him. _ depressed and isolated. you are so close to him, when _ depressed and isolated. you are so close to him, when did _ depressed and isolated. you are so close to him, when did you - depressed and isolated. you are so close to him, when did you first. close to him, when did you first notice that he was different? it was a few years — notice that he was different? it was a few years ago. — notice that he was different? it was a few years ago, he _ notice that he was different? it was a few years ago, he said _ notice that he was different? it was a few years ago, he said himself, i a few years ago, he said himself, i'm not right. you are never going to sit down and quit someone on what year it is and who the prime minister is, you assume they know. there were a few things that he got confused and muddled about. slight personality changes are the things we noticed as opposed to something that, we saw something happen and we knew. it was very gradual. what were the circumstances of his diagnosis? did you have to persuade him to go and talk to someone, or did you get to a point where... no, he started to ask, when am i going to get this sorted, when am i getting better, when is someone going to fix my head? we were kind of hoping that it wouldn't be dementia but i think we all knew that it probably was. it was very difficult to covid trying to get hospital appointments and being seen in person. we had a particular day where my mum had gone

to hospital with him and they would not let her in so he was having to go to answer questions about his memory and my mum wasn't there. he said a few years back, "if ever i have alzheimer's, dementia, ijust don't want to know." but he actually did want to know what was wrong with him because he wanted to try and understand. and maybe trying to work with others to make sure that the next generation of footballers are not in this situation, that families aren't going through this. sport and football, you enter into it thinking it's going to physically and mentally better me. it's going to prolong my life. you don't think at 60 odd years old, you're going to have brain damage from something that you love. look at the leap by mcqueen. looking back now at your dad's career and the time he played, all those headers, when you first suspected there was something wrong, did you immediately think, it's connected to football? no, no. i don't think i realised how much my dad used his head. i didn't realise that it was over and over and over, every day in training for years and years. you go back to childhood as well, heading a ball against a brick wall

because if you did not have anyone to play with, that is what you did. he scored some memorable headers. one of the only pictures we have at home is him leaping into the air, scoring a header against england. he's very proud of that. he said he wouldn't take back any of his goals or any of the headers that he remembered so fondly, but he said maybe he would have done things differently in training had they have been warned. but you can't get angry about that. there is no one to blame, they weren't to know, but we know now and someone will be to blame if we don't do something about it. we've seen so much in the press, haven't we, recently, about former footballers who have been affected by dementia and jack charlton, who so bravely spoke about his own battle with dementia. jack looked after him, took him under his wing. my dad was brought into leeds united to be a replacement. he was like, "god. how am i going to fill the boots of jack charlton?" he often came off the bench and replaced him as jack was coming towards the end of his career, and my dad was just starting out.

it's horrible to think where that has led now, but you have to think about the happy times and memories when leeds united were an amazing team. they were for a very big names, not just in british football but world football, and jack was a hero for my dad and somebody he always looked up to. . . dad and somebody he always looked up to. , ., , , ., dad and somebody he always looked up to. , ., to. there is a sense that something has to change- _ to. there is a sense that something has to change- l _ to. there is a sense that something has to change. i think— to. there is a sense that something has to change. i think the _ to. there is a sense that something has to change. i think the fact - to. there is a sense that something has to change. i think the fact thatl has to change. i think the fact that the government _ has to change. i think the fact that the government is _ has to change. i think the fact that the government is getting - has to change. i think the fact that| the government is getting involved is massive. it's almost criminal, really, that it has taken so many high profile deaths for this to be dealt with at the highest level. why are we still in this situation now, of battling to try and get something done about it? cutting out heading under 11s is another step forward but what about in your teen years when your rain is still developing? you're not going to —— when your brain is still developing? that will make change because of it but so what, if it is saving people's lies. you look how var has changed the

game. why not bring in a limit on heading the ball at youth level and professional level. it will be interesting to see what the government will do about it. it's a really important day today. we are seeing the dcms starting to talk about this officially. is there an assurance you're looking for? yeah, i think there needs to be changes in the law within football governing bodies as to how much a player heads the ball, and notjust at under 11 level. it needs to be right through the professional game. sunday league football needs to know about it, everybody needs to know about it. can you make a law? i don't even know if you can make a lot of this kind of thing, but may be just some kind of thing, but may be just some kind of thing, but may be just some kind of guidance into what is safe and not safe. the pfa have been very helpful and cooperative with us. my mum, bless her, she said, gareth southgate is involved in this

heading research information! she called him, iwas heading research information! she called him, i was like, heading research information! she called him, iwas like, oh, god, mum! she got a call back, and i thought, gosh, if gareth southgate spent the time to ring my mum about, bless him, something has to be taken seriously. he wants to find out if what he did during his footballing career will affect him. there are lots of footballers out there probably thinking, is it me next, is it going to be me?— former manchester united and england defender viv anderson worked with gordon mcqueen when he was a coach at middlesbrough. viv joins us now. good morning to you. i hope you are able to listen to hayley�*s was there and listen to what she was saying about her dad. what is it like to hear this story about another player that you know who has been diagnosed with dementia? it’s that you know who has been diagnosed with dementia?— with dementia? it's quite prevalent, isn't it, with — with dementia? it's quite prevalent, isn't it, with nobby_ with dementia? it's quite prevalent, isn't it, with nobby stiles _ with dementia? it's quite prevalent, isn't it, with nobby stiles going - isn't it, with nobby stiles going just recently, and sir bobby having dementia as well. i try to speak to

gordon once a month or so. so i spoke to him only a week ago. he seemed quite chipper, quite compass mentis, he knew who i was, we chatted about different things and what he had seen on television. but it quite sad. think about gordon is that he the best storyteller, a fantastic storyteller, still with us but it will be a battle through his illness. . . but it will be a battle through his illness. ., , ., ., , illness. that is one of the things that hayley _ illness. that is one of the things that hayley said, _ illness. that is one of the things that hayley said, if— illness. that is one of the things that hayley said, if you - illness. that is one of the things that hayley said, if you are - illness. that is one of the things| that hayley said, if you are going to have a a party, the first name on the list would be gordon mcqueen because it would be the life and soul. tell us about your own career with him? . soul. tell us about your own career with him? , . .,,, soul. tell us about your own career with him? , . ,., with him? yes, we crossed paths at middlesbrough, _ with him? yes, we crossed paths at middlesbrough, he _ with him? yes, we crossed paths at middlesbrough, he was _ with him? yes, we crossed paths at middlesbrough, he was a _ with him? yes, we crossed paths at middlesbrough, he was a great - with him? yes, we crossed paths at i middlesbrough, he was a great coach. the players respected him very much. and, yes, here he is now. it is

quite a sad place for the family and everybody. as you say, he was the life and soul of the party. and he loved life. now hejust life and soul of the party. and he loved life. now he just sits life and soul of the party. and he loved life. now hejust sits in life and soul of the party. and he loved life. now he just sits in the chair and watches television in the afternoons. i think this lockdown has not helped. i think if you can get out and about, i think he wants to speak to people and do the things he is to do, as soon as he can do that he will be a lot better in himself. ., . ., , ., ., himself. how much does dementia and the issue of sport _ himself. how much does dementia and the issue of sport and _ himself. how much does dementia and the issue of sport and dementia - the issue of sport and dementia concern you?— the issue of sport and dementia concern you? yes, i think we talk about it all _ concern you? yes, i think we talk about it all the _ concern you? yes, i think we talk about it all the time, _ concern you? yes, i think we talk about it all the time, nobby - about it all the time, nobby recently, nothing seems to be done. i think it is a government thing. i think they will have to implement something at government level, the pfa and the premier league. we have to look at the next generation. gordon, as you say, nothing we can do about it now. it is the next generation we have to look after. if we can implement things, not heading

balls, that is what we did all afternoon, we headed balls. that was the teaching we had. hopefully the next generation will not have to suffer from what we suffered from. we have this dcms committee meeting today and they will be hearing evidence from most of the day from people who are expert in this field. what do you hope, what is the best thing that can come out of this government inquiry starting today? some legislation to say that we should ban heading that pulls up to a certain age. and try to get —— heading footballs. and try to see what triggers dementia in these young children and athletes. that is really important. as hayley said in the piece, we don't want the next generation wondering if it is going to be them. let's do something now, let's not wait until another person suffers from dementia and dies. ltifhl’htzit suffers from dementia and dies. what sort of changes _ suffers from dementia and dies. what sort of changes would _ suffers from dementia and dies. what sort of changes would you like to see, what are the specifics? something that gary lineker said,

children under 11 should not be heading balls. anything that will implement something that we can get the data. that is very important, trying to find out what brings on the dementia. we don't know, we are still in the dark in many respects. anything has got to be better than what we have at the moment. ltifhl’htzit what we have at the moment. what would ou what we have at the moment. what would you say _ what we have at the moment. what would you say to — what we have at the moment. what would you say to the _ what we have at the moment. what would you say to the people who resist anything that might change the rules of the game, the nature of football? i the rules of the game, the nature of football? ~ ., , , . football? i know it is difficult, we have been _ football? i know it is difficult, we have been brought _ football? i know it is difficult, we have been brought up _ football? i know it is difficult, we have been brought up playing - have been brought up playing football in a certain way. but it is time to change. too many people are going down with dementia and nobody knows the cause of it. we have to do something to try and change our mindset. we will always have football but we have to try and change and move with the times. we. change and move with the times. viv, lovel to change and move with the times. viv, lovely to talk — change and move with the times. viv, lovely to talk to _ change and move with the times. viv, lovely to talk to you. thank you very much for your time this morning. interesting to see... what a great picture of gordon! interesting to see viv�*s perspective. there is a real sense of this inquiry starting today that it has to be looked at in a lot more

detail. i know you will continue following that story. i know you will continue following that sto . . ~ i know you will continue following that sto . ., ,, , ., ., ,, i know you will continue following that sto . ., ,, ., ,, ., that story. thank you. thank you to ha le as that story. thank you. thank you to hayley as well _ that story. thank you. thank you to hayley as well for _ that story. thank you. thank you to hayley as well for being _ that story. thank you. thank you to hayley as well for being so - that story. thank you. thank you to hayley as well for being so willing i hayley as well for being so willing and open and honest to talk about her dad and herfamily in that and open and honest to talk about her dad and her family in that way because hopefully, it will add to a conversation which is already ongoing, and the hope is as she said that there will not be other people going to this in generations to come. ~ . . going to this in generations to come. . ., , ., , going to this in generations to come. ., , ., , , come. what she has done is very owerful come. what she has done is very powerful by _ come. what she has done is very powerful by speaking _ come. what she has done is very powerful by speaking out - come. what she has done is very powerful by speaking out so - come. what she has done is very . powerful by speaking out so quickly, it could be very powerful indeed. we will be talking about meteorites in the next half an hour, just leave that out there. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. detectives investigating the disappearance of a woman in south london say they have received more than 100 calls from the public. thirty three—year—old sarah everard was last spotted on cctv walking home from a friends house in clapham last wednesday night. concerns have been raised

about the future of london zoo, which has been closed for the first time since world war two because of the pandemic. millions of pounds have been lost in ticket sales over the last 12 months. it was hoped it could reopen in time for easter, but under current plans, zoos will be shut until at least the 12th of april. over the easter period we're due to lose over £2 million of revenue that we're expected to take. it does have a massive impact, if you think about how long we've been closed over the past year. i'm really worried now that if we don't start getting visitors back in, we can't survive. the nightingale hospital in east london, set up to treat covid patients, will close next month. the 4,000 bed facility at the excel centre in docklands, was one of seven similar hospitals. the nhs says the one in london will stay open for vaccinations. the pandemic has highlighted the issue of loneliness in london. all this week, we're looking at the difference the community has made on the alton estate in roehampton. one charity working in the area says those in need of support

because they're isolated, has increased in the last year. regenerate rise now helps hundreds of older people on the estate. you've got to stay positive, you know. otherwise you're really down in the doldrums. and if it wasn't for regenerate and people like tony, you know, i'd feel completely cut off. let's take a look at the travel situation now. on the tubes there are severe delays on the circle, and hammersmith and city line. on the roads, in putney heath there are delays on west hill from tibbet�*s corner towards wandsworth because of roadworks. in white hart lane remains part closed in both directions that's due to a police investigation following a fatal stabbing yesterday. now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello, good morning. it's all change tomorrow, when it's going to be very wet and windy. but for today, a fairly pleasant day of weather ahead for early spring. we start off with temperatures above freezing, so it's not as chilly as it was this time yesterday. a bit of cloud milling

around this morning, but that will thin and break. we'll see some decent spells of sunshine emerge. sunny spells again this afternoon, and the winds will start to freshen by the time we get to the end of the day. top temperatures in double figures again, slightly higher than yesterday's, 11 or 12 degrees celsius, that's 54 in fahrenheit. now through this evening and overnight, the cloud is going to thicken from the west. it'll feel milder, but the wind picks up further and there'll be outbreaks of rain moving eastwards into the start of the day tomorrow. so it's really a wet start to the morning. and it's going to stay wet all day. there'll be some heavy downpours of rain through the day on wednesday. some strong, gusty winds. there's a met office weather warning in place for the strength of the winds on wednesday night into thursday. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london in an hour. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast

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it's led to calls for an investigation into racism within the royalfamily, and raised questions about the future of the monarchy. our royal correspondent daniela relphjoins us now. we saw you outside buckingham palace yesterday. are we expected, do you think there will be a statement at some point from the royal family? what do we know about ongoing discussions?— what do we know about ongoing discussions? yes, it's hard to see how there — discussions? yes, it's hard to see how there won't _ discussions? yes, it's hard to see how there won't be _ discussions? yes, it's hard to see how there won't be some - discussions? yes, it's hard to see how there won't be some kind . discussions? yes, it's hard to see how there won't be some kind of| how there won't be some kind of response — how there won't be some kind of response from buckingham palace at this stage _ response from buckingham palace at this stage. when you look at those headlines— this stage. when you look at those headlines this morning, they are absolutely terrible for the royal family — absolutely terrible for the royal family. and it's hard from this position— family. and it's hard from this position now, more than 204! was after— position now, more than 204! was after the _ position now, more than 204! was after the interview was first aired in the _ after the interview was first aired in the united states, to see how buckingham palace could not say anything — buckingham palace could not say anything at all. yesterday, there were _ anything at all. yesterday, there were meetings, as you would expect, within— were meetings, as you would expect, within the _ were meetings, as you would expect, within the royal household among staff but _ within the royal household among staff but also with senior members of the _ staff but also with senior members of the family. and in these meetings you would _ of the family. and in these meetings you would expect to see the queen, the prince _ you would expect to see the queen, the prince of wales and the duke of

cambridge — the prince of wales and the duke of cambridge trying to make a judgment call and _ cambridge trying to make a judgment call and how they should react to what _ call and how they should react to what harry and meghan have said. i think— what harry and meghan have said. i think we _ what harry and meghan have said. i think we can expect to hear from single _ think we can expect to hear from single -- — think we can expect to hear from single —— something from buckingham palace _ single —— something from buckingham palace today. that could fall into two camps. you could have a statement that is very detailed and deals— statement that is very detailed and deals with the specific allegations that have been made, particularly those _ that have been made, particularly those really, really difficult areas around _ those really, really difficult areas around racism and around how meghan was treated _ around racism and around how meghan was treated when she asked for help in terms _ was treated when she asked for help in terms of— was treated when she asked for help in terms of her mental health. will they address any of that material in detail, _ they address any of that material in detail, or— they address any of that material in detail, orwillthey they address any of that material in detail, or will they instead perhaps release _ detail, or will they instead perhaps release a _ detail, or will they instead perhaps release a more general statement offering _ release a more general statement offering their support and compassion for the couple during what _ compassion for the couple during what clearly was a very difficult time _ what clearly was a very difficult time for— what clearly was a very difficult time for them? what clearly was a very difficult time forthem? i what clearly was a very difficult time for them? i think there probably— time for them? i think there probably will be something from buckingham palace. and secondly, when _ buckingham palace. and secondly, when it— buckingham palace. and secondly, when it does come, what kind of statement — when it does come, what kind of statement is it? | when it does come, what kind of statement is it?— when it does come, what kind of statement is it? i know you will be watchin: statement is it? i know you will be watching that _ statement is it? i know you will be watching that really _ statement is it? i know you will be watching that really carefully. - statement is it? i know you will be watching that really carefully. it i watching that really carefully. it is making headlines here, it is making headlines in the us. how damaging for their reputation is this for the royalfamily? it is

this for the royal family? it is hard to see — this for the royal family? it is hard to see how— this for the royal family? it is hard to see how it _ this for the royal family? it is hard to see how it will - this for the royal family? it is hard to see how it will be damaging in some _ hard to see how it will be damaging in some way or another because of the nature — in some way or another because of the nature of the allegations that have been made. raise, mental health. — have been made. raise, mental health, these are really, really tricky— health, these are really, really tricky areas where there is direct criticism — tricky areas where there is direct criticism of— tricky areas where there is direct criticism of how buckingham palace and individuals in the royal family handled _ and individuals in the royal family handled those issues. so you cannot shy away— handled those issues. so you cannot shy away from the fact that this is a very— shy away from the fact that this is a very damaging for the royal family — a very damaging for the royal family, hence why we think there will be _ family, hence why we think there will be some kind of statement today — will be some kind of statement today. these are global headlines. notjust— today. these are global headlines. notjust here in uk. particularly in the us— notjust here in uk. particularly in the us as — notjust here in uk. particularly in the us as well. it is interesting to see how— the us as well. it is interesting to see how the response has been framed there _ see how the response has been framed there. because there is clearly, within— there. because there is clearly, within the — there. because there is clearly, within the united states, an immense amount— within the united states, an immense amount of— within the united states, an immense amount of support and love for meghan— amount of support and love for meghan and harry and quite a lot of criticism _ meghan and harry and quite a lot of criticism of— meghan and harry and quite a lot of criticism of the institution of the royal— criticism of the institution of the royal family at the highest level. a spokesperson for president biden talked _ spokesperson for president biden talked about meghan's courage and praising _ talked about meghan's courage and praising her. hillary clinton talking _ praising her. hillary clinton talking about the institution of the monarchy— talking about the institution of the monarchy and saying, hey, it's 2021, maybe _ monarchy and saying, hey, it's 2021, maybe they — monarchy and saying, hey, it's 2021, maybe they need to look at themselves a bit differently. all of

that will— themselves a bit differently. all of that will play into the narrative here — that will play into the narrative here it — that will play into the narrative here. it puts the pressure on buckingham palace.- here. it puts the pressure on buckingham palace. daniela relph, thank ou buckingham palace. daniela relph, thank you for— buckingham palace. daniela relph, thank you for your _ buckingham palace. daniela relph, thank you for your analysis. - meghan's open and honest discussion about her mental health struggles has been praised by campaigners, who say she's raised awareness of the issue. jonny benjamin is the founder of the youth mental health charity beyond, and joins us now. really good to talk to you this morning. i know people don't come more high—profile than meghan. so to hear her talking about what she has been going through in such depth as well, how do you think that will have impacted on many people watching that interview for the first time in the uk last night? yeah, i think it is huge. notjust the fact— yeah, i think it is huge. notjust the fact she talked about mental health. — the fact she talked about mental health, she talked about feeling suicidal — health, she talked about feeling suicidal. that is something that a lot of— suicidal. that is something that a lot of people struggle to talk about — lot of people struggle to talk about. we know there are a lot of high—profile people who have spoken about— high—profile people who have spoken about things like depression,

anxiety _ about things like depression, anxiety, but you hear someone talking — anxiety, but you hear someone talking about their suicidal thoughts and feelings, i think it's so brave — thoughts and feelings, i think it's so brave and so courageous. and i .et so brave and so courageous. and i get really— so brave and so courageous. and i get really frustrated because i have seen a _ get really frustrated because i have seen a lot— get really frustrated because i have seen a lot of people on twitter, from _ seen a lot of people on twitter, from the — seen a lot of people on twitter, from the likes of piers morgan, who are doubting her for saying that. and it's — are doubting her for saying that. and it'sjust so are doubting her for saying that. and it's just so frustrating are doubting her for saying that. and it'sjust so frustrating because ijust— and it'sjust so frustrating because ijust know— and it'sjust so frustrating because ijust know if it had been anything else you — ijust know if it had been anything else you would have talked about, if she had _ else you would have talked about, if she had had cancer, heart disease, or a stroke — she had had cancer, heart disease, or a stroke, and she had had cancer, heart disease, ora stroke, and i heard she had had cancer, heart disease, or a stroke, and i heard you talk about— or a stroke, and i heard you talk about dementia earlier, if she had talked _ about dementia earlier, if she had talked about how she had a diagnosis of dementia, the response would have been different. but because she said she has— been different. but because she said she has struggled with her mental health. _ she has struggled with her mental health, had suicidal thoughts and feelings, — health, had suicidal thoughts and feelings, people think they can doubt — feelings, people think they can doubt that. i think it is really frustrating. everyone instead should be praising — frustrating. everyone instead should be praising her. but they are not. you have — be praising her. but they are not. you have had experience of this yourself, haven't you? if you are able to do it, remind our viewers of

what you went through and how hard it was for you to have that conversation and talk about what you were going through?— were going through? yeah, absolutely. _ were going through? yeah, absolutely. for _ were going through? yeah, absolutely. for me, - were going through? yeah, absolutely. for me, i- were going through? yeah, - absolutely. for me, i struggled a lot with _ absolutely. for me, i struggled a lot with suicidal thoughts and feelings in my teens, in my late teens _ feelings in my teens, in my late teens in — feelings in my teens, in my late teens in particular. and it so hard to say— teens in particular. and it so hard to say those — teens in particular. and it so hard to say those words. it took me years. — to say those words. it took me years. if— to say those words. it took me years, if i'm honest to open up and say that— years, if i'm honest to open up and say that i_ years, if i'm honest to open up and say that i felt suicidal. you know, i say that i felt suicidal. you know, i got _ say that i felt suicidal. you know, i got a _ say that i felt suicidal. you know, i got a diagnosis of a form of schizophrenia when i was 20. i ended up schizophrenia when i was 20. i ended up going _ schizophrenia when i was 20. i ended up going to _ schizophrenia when i was 20. i ended up going to a bridge. thankfully, for me _ up going to a bridge. thankfully, for me i— up going to a bridge. thankfully, for me i was talked off the edge. but i _ for me i was talked off the edge. but i will— for me i was talked off the edge. but i will never forget having that first conversation about having suicidal— first conversation about having suicidal thoughts and feelings in my head. _ suicidal thoughts and feelings in my head. the _ suicidal thoughts and feelings in my head, the shame, the fear, the embarrassment. so again, i think for meghan— embarrassment. so again, i think for meghan to _ embarrassment. so again, i think for meghan to come out on public tv, in front of— meghan to come out on public tv, in front of the _ meghan to come out on public tv, in front of the world, and say that she

experienced suicidal thoughts and feelings, — experienced suicidal thoughts and feelings, ijust know how tough that is. feelings, ijust know how tough that is and. _ feelings, ijust know how tough that is and. you — feelings, ijust know how tough that is. and, you know, ijust wish that there _ is. and, you know, ijust wish that there was— is. and, you know, ijust wish that there was more compassion, empathy and understanding. no one should underestimate the courage it takes for someone to say they have a suicidal— for someone to say they have a suicidal thoughts and feelings. it really— suicidal thoughts and feelings. it really does take so much. i wish that people would appreciate that. you have _ that people would appreciate that. you have painted that picture very powerfully this morning. i wonder then, when you did that, and when somebody likes meghan does that and speaks so openly about it and people shout, prove it, or i don't believe you, what does that do to that person speaking that, but also to those who may be in a similar situation who might be thinking about whether they can have that conversation with someone? it puts --eole off conversation with someone? it puts people off seeking _ conversation with someone? it puts people off seeking help, _ conversation with someone? it puts people off seeking help, which - conversation with someone? it puts people off seeking help, which is i conversation with someone? it puts people off seeking help, which is so frustrating — people off seeking help, which is so frustrating because we are living in a time _ frustrating because we are living in a time when, you know, i'm sorry to say this, _ a time when, you know, i'm sorry to saythis, but— a time when, you know, i'm sorry to say this, but itv have now lets talk about _ say this, but itv have now lets talk about mental health campaign, and then they— about mental health campaign, and then they have piers morgan telling

people _ then they have piers morgan telling people that meghan is not necessarily being true. it seriously damages _ necessarily being true. it seriously damages this mental health movement that we _ damages this mental health movement that we have. and notjust that. so with my— that we have. and notjust that. so with my charity we have a youth board — with my charity we have a youth board. there are a lot of people on the youth _ board. there are a lot of people on the youth board that have been bereaved — the youth board that have been bereaved by suicide. listening to what _ bereaved by suicide. listening to what someone like piers morgan comes outwith _ what someone like piers morgan comes outwith, that they doubt what someone like piers morgan comes out with, that they doubt meghan, do you know— out with, that they doubt meghan, do you know what that does to someone bereaved _ you know what that does to someone bereaved by suicide? i spoke to a lot bereaved by suicide? ! spoke to a lot of— bereaved by suicide? i spoke to a lot of them — bereaved by suicide? i spoke to a lot of them yesterday. they were really _ lot of them yesterday. they were really pained by a lot of what was written _ really pained by a lot of what was written about on twitter, people saying _ written about on twitter, people saying they did not believe meghan having _ saying they did not believe meghan having suicidal thoughts, people claiming — having suicidal thoughts, people claiming she was an actress playing a role _ claiming she was an actress playing a role i_ claiming she was an actress playing a role. ithink claiming she was an actress playing a role. i think people again need to sort of— a role. i think people again need to sort of wake — a role. i think people again need to sort of wake up and realise that, you know. — sort of wake up and realise that, you know, the impact of someone doubting — you know, the impact of someone doubting someone that has suicidal thoughts _ doubting someone that has suicidal thoughts and feelings, and sing it publicly — thoughts and feelings, and sing it publicly, it doesn'tjust have an impact — publicly, it doesn'tjust have an impact on — publicly, it doesn'tjust have an impact on those who have been through— impact on those who have been through it. _ impact on those who have been through it, but the family and friends — through it, but the family and friends of those who have lost loved ones to _ friends of those who have lost loved ones to suicide, it has an impact on them _ ones to suicide, it has an impact on them as— ones to suicide, it has an impact on them as well — ones to suicide, it has an impact on them as well. again, i wish people would _ them as well. again, i wish people would be _ them as well. again, i wish people

would be a — them as well. again, i wish people would be a bit more understanding and empathetic and i think a bit more _ and empathetic and i think a bit more before they say things. we have not no more before they say things. we have got no control— more before they say things. we have got no control about _ more before they say things. we have got no control about what _ more before they say things. we have got no control about what happens . more before they say things. we have got no control about what happens on j got no control about what happens on the other channel, i'm sure you appreciate that. when you heard and watched that interview with meghan, were you surprised that she went into such great detail? you have talked about how hard it is to speak about that in the first place. but it wasn't just one about that in the first place. but it wasn'tjust one answer, was it? yeah, do you know what? this is what really _ yeah, do you know what? this is what really frustrates me, because i know. — really frustrates me, because i know. you _ really frustrates me, because i know, you know, i've been suicidal a number— know, you know, i've been suicidal a number of— know, you know, i've been suicidal a number of times, and i know what it's like _ number of times, and i know what it's like going through that in your head. _ it's like going through that in your head. that — it's like going through that in your head, that kind of process. i won't io head, that kind of process. i won't go into— head, that kind of process. i won't go into it — head, that kind of process. i won't go into it. that kind of process. the way — go into it. that kind of process. the way at _ go into it. that kind of process. the way at that meghan spoke, i really— the way at that meghan spoke, i really related to it. she talked at one point— really related to it. she talked at one point about methods. she used the word _ one point about methods. she used the word methods. how can anyone doubt _ the word methods. how can anyone doubt that, — the word methods. how can anyone doubt that, that she felt suicidal when _ doubt that, that she felt suicidal when she — doubt that, that she felt suicidal when she said on the interview that she was— when she said on the interview that she was going through the methods in her head? _ she was going through the methods in her head? as someone who has been suicidal. _ her head? as someone who has been suicidal. and — her head? as someone who has been suicidal, and anyone who has been

suicidal— suicidal, and anyone who has been suicidal will— suicidal, and anyone who has been suicidal will know what it is like going _ suicidal will know what it is like going through the process of thinking about taking your life and going _ thinking about taking your life and going through the methods when you are into _ going through the methods when you are into it _ going through the methods when you are into it. it's such a horrible, horrible — are into it. it's such a horrible, horrible, horrible place to be in your— horrible, horrible place to be in your head — horrible, horrible place to be in your head when you're suicidal, when your head when you're suicidal, when you are _ your head when you're suicidal, when you are going through the different methods — you are going through the different methods. when you are just thinking about— methods. when you are just thinking about it _ methods. when you are just thinking about it in _ methods. when you are just thinking about it in total, taking your life, it's horrible, intense, scary. it's a scary— it's horrible, intense, scary. it's a scary place, you know? again, people _ a scary place, you know? again, people need to have empathy when someone _ people need to have empathy when someone is going through that. people — someone is going through that. people need to have some sort of reassurance and support. it made me sad that— reassurance and support. it made me sad that meghan didn't actually get that support. that may be she could have got _ that support. that may be she could have got i— that support. that may be she could have got. i think it is a message to everyone _ have got. i think it is a message to everyone out there that we need to do better— everyone out there that we need to do better when it comes to people that are _ do better when it comes to people that are suicidal, that have suicidal— that are suicidal, that have suicidal thoughts and feelings. you know _ suicidal thoughts and feelings. you

know. we _ suicidal thoughts and feelings. you know, we talk about mental health a lot, depression, anxiety, but we need _ lot, depression, anxiety, but we need to— lot, depression, anxiety, but we need to be — lot, depression, anxiety, but we need to be talking a lot more about suicidal— need to be talking a lot more about suicidal ideation and what we can do to support _ suicidal ideation and what we can do to support those who are suicidal. i think— to support those who are suicidal. i think the _ to support those who are suicidal. i think the public needs so much more education _ think the public needs so much more education on the subject. maybe if they had _ education on the subject. maybe if they had more education, they wouldn't — they had more education, they wouldn't be so quick tojudge or to doubt _ wouldn't be so quick tojudge or to doubt someone. i wouldn't be so quick to 'udge or to doubt someone- wouldn't be so quick to 'udge or to doubt someone. i don't want to sound ianorant, doubt someone. i don't want to sound ignorant. but — doubt someone. i don't want to sound ignorant. but i — doubt someone. i don't want to sound ignorant, but i think _ doubt someone. i don't want to sound ignorant, but i think it _ doubt someone. i don't want to sound ignorant, but i think it is _ ignorant, but i think it is something that is hard to talk about, isn't it? i think some people are scared about not only bringing it up, but also having that discussion with members of their family, with their friends as well. we will make sure the end of this interview we put some details on the screen and give viewers a helpline may be, or some more information they can get if they are thinking about some of the things you are talking about this morning. if somebody is watching this, what would advice be?— somebody is watching this, what would advice be? well, my advice would advice be? well, my advice would be to _ would advice be? well, my advice would be to reach _ would advice be? well, my advice would be to reach out. _ would advice be? well, my advice would be to reach out. i _ would advice be? well, my advice would be to reach out. i know- would advice be? well, my advice| would be to reach out. i know that it is easier— would be to reach out. i know that it is easier said than done. i know it is easier said than done. i know it is easier said than done. i know it is hard. — it is easier said than done. i know it is hard. it— it is easier said than done. i know it is hard. it is— it is easier said than done. i know it is hard, it is so hard when you are experiencing suicidal thoughts

and feelings, and it does feel so intense — and feelings, and it does feel so intense and so overwhelming, but there _ intense and so overwhelming, but there is— intense and so overwhelming, but there is so— intense and so overwhelming, but there is so much help and support out there — there is so much help and support out there. and what we saw play out yesterday _ out there. and what we saw play out yesterday with meghan's interview, people _ yesterday with meghan's interview, people saying they were doubting her, people saying they were doubting her. that— people saying they were doubting her, that will not happen when you call the _ her, that will not happen when you call the samaritans or when you reach _ call the samaritans or when you reach out — call the samaritans or when you reach out for support with your trusted — reach out for support with your trusted family member, your friend. that will— trusted family member, your friend. that will not happen. you will be met with — that will not happen. you will be met with reassurance. people will believe _ met with reassurance. people will believe you and help you and support you. believe you and help you and support you the _ believe you and help you and support you. the hardest thing is to go through— you. the hardest thing is to go through it _ you. the hardest thing is to go through it on your own when you are stuck— through it on your own when you are stuck in _ through it on your own when you are stuck in your— through it on your own when you are stuck in your head, when you're feeling — stuck in your head, when you're feeling suicidal. you feel so trapped _ feeling suicidal. you feel so trapped. it'sjust, you need to reach — trapped. it'sjust, you need to reach out _ trapped. it'sjust, you need to reach out for support. you need summary— reach out for support. you need summary to help to guide you out of that _ summary to help to guide you out of that. because suicidal thoughts and feelings, _ that. because suicidal thoughts and feelings, they can be overcome. they will always— feelings, they can be overcome. they will always be overcome, but it is so hard _ will always be overcome, but it is so hard to — will always be overcome, but it is so hard to do that on your own. that is why— so hard to do that on your own. that is why meghan turned to harry. she couldn't— is why meghan turned to harry. she couldn't do— is why meghan turned to harry. she couldn't do it on her own trapped in her head _ couldn't do it on her own trapped in her head. please do it. there are organisations waiting for your call organisations waiting for your call or your— organisations waiting for your call or your text. organisations waiting for your call oryourtext. if organisations waiting for your call or your text. if you are feeling suicidal. — or your text. if you are feeling suicidal, reach out and you will be

helped _ suicidal, reach out and you will be heled. �* , ., suicidal, reach out and you will be heled. �* ,, ., . suicidal, reach out and you will be heled. �* ., . helped. are you all right? are you all riaht helped. are you all right? are you all right today? _ helped. are you all right? are you all right today? yeah, _ helped. are you all right? are you all right today? yeah, and - helped. are you all right? are you all right today? yeah, andjust, ii all right today? yeah, and 'ust, i aet so all right today? yeah, and 'ust, i get so frustrated. - all right today? yeah, and 'ust, i get so frustrated. i'm . all right today? yeah, andjust, i get so frustrated. i'm sorry - all right today? yeah, andjust, i get so frustrated. i'm sorry i've i get so frustrated. i'm sorry i've been _ get so frustrated. i'm sorry i've been like — get so frustrated. i'm sorry i've been like i've babbled on. you haven't at _ been like i've babbled on. you haven't at all. _ been like i've babbled on. you haven't at all. you _ been like i've babbled on. tj'f7l. haven't at all. you talking about these things as someone who has felted, and has been through it, i think that has been a real help to a lot of people watching this morning. thank you. ijust lot of people watching this morning. thank you. i just don't want anyone thank you. ijust don't want anyone to have _ thank you. ijust don't want anyone to have to— thank you. ijust don't want anyone to have to go— thank you. ijust don't want anyone to have to go through it on their own~ _ to have to go through it on their own~ i_ to have to go through it on their own~ i don't _ to have to go through it on their own. i don't want anyone to have to watch _ own. i don't want anyone to have to watch that _ own. i don't want anyone to have to watch that meghan interview and think— watch that meghan interview and think they can't talk about it because _ think they can't talk about it because they think people will doubt them or— because they think people will doubt them or not believe them. there are so many— them or not believe them. there are so many kind — them or not believe them. there are so many kind and compassionate people _ so many kind and compassionate people out there within the mental health— people out there within the mental health space that will believe you, that will— health space that will believe you, that will help you. ijust don't want — that will help you. ijust don't want anyone to feel they have to keep— want anyone to feel they have to keep it _ want anyone to feel they have to keep it to— want anyone to feel they have to keep it to themselves. that is the worst— keep it to themselves. that is the worst thing to do is to keep it to yourself — worst thing to do is to keep it to ourself. ~ ., ,, . ., worst thing to do is to keep it to ourself. . ., ,, . ., yourself. well, appreciate your time this morning- _ yourself. well, appreciate your time this morning. thank _ yourself. well, appreciate your time this morning. thank you _ yourself. well, appreciate your time this morning. thank you for - yourself. well, appreciate your time this morning. thank you for being i yourself. well, appreciate your time | this morning. thank you for being so open and honest with us.— open and honest with us. johnny benjamin- _

open and honest with us. johnny benjamin. and _ open and honest with us. johnny benjamin. and johnny _ open and honest with us. johnny| benjamin. and johnny mentioned open and honest with us. johnny i benjamin. and johnny mentioned a shout, he mentioned samaritans. and details of organisations offering information and support are available at bbc. co. uk/actionline. there are numbers that every child line, for young there are numbers that every child line, foryoung minds, so there are numbers that every child line, for young minds, so much other information as well. if you have any concerns about yourself or someone you know, do go to the acts on line and you will get more information. thank you tojohnny. don't listen to the noise sometimes. there are some good, decent people out there who can help you if you are struggling. that's really important this morning. ellie gould's life was tragically cut short two years ago, when she was murdered by her ex—boyfriend when she was just 17 years old. now, the government is proposing changes to the law which would mean tougher punishments for teenagers convicted of murder. it comes after ellie's family campaigned for reforms. ellie's mum carolejoins us now. good morning to you. thank you so much for talking to us again. so,

these changes, what does it mean for you? these changes, what does it mean for ou? ~ . ., these changes, what does it mean for ou? ~ , ., ., ., , you? well, first of all it means that thomas _ you? well, first of all it means that thomas griffiths - you? well, first of all it means that thomas griffiths will - you? well, first of all it means that thomas griffiths will not i you? well, first of all it means i that thomas griffiths will not get his sentence reviewed. for us as a family— his sentence reviewed. for us as a family that — his sentence reviewed. for us as a family that is a huge relief that in four years — family that is a huge relief that in four years we don't have to go through— four years we don't have to go through the anguish of a review process— through the anguish of a review process and thomas griffiths potentially having his sentence reduced — potentially having his sentence reduced. the other thing is that somebody like a thomas griffiths, going _ somebody like a thomas griffiths, going forward with these new —— these _ going forward with these new —— these new— going forward with these new —— these new reforms, his starting point _ these new reforms, his starting point would increase to 14 years. that _ point would increase to 14 years. that is _ point would increase to 14 years. that is a — point would increase to 14 years. that is a big improvement on the 12 years _ that is a big improvement on the 12 years but — that is a big improvement on the 12 years. but where it doesn't quite work— years. but where it doesn't quite work is _ years. but where it doesn't quite work is when it comes to somebody that is— work is when it comes to somebody that is aged — work is when it comes to somebody that is aged 16. their sentence will be reduced — that is aged 16. their sentence will be reduced to ten years. so really, they haven't — be reduced to ten years. so really, they haven't quite got it right yet. i they haven't quite got it right yet. i know— they haven't quite got it right yet. i know you've campaigned extremely hard on this. and you will continue. is that one of the things you would like to see changed?—

is that one of the things you would like to see changed? yeah, obviously the reason somebody _ like to see changed? yeah, obviously the reason somebody aged _ like to see changed? yeah, obviously the reason somebody aged 16, - like to see changed? yeah, obviously the reason somebody aged 16, their. the reason somebody aged 16, their sentence _ the reason somebody aged 16, their sentence will only be ten years, is they have — sentence will only be ten years, is they have come up with a framework where _ they have come up with a framework where the _ they have come up with a framework where the youth will serve two thirds — where the youth will serve two thirds of— where the youth will serve two thirds of the adult sentence. of course — thirds of the adult sentence. of course if— thirds of the adult sentence. of course if the adult sentence is only 15 years. _ course if the adult sentence is only 15 years, two thirds of 15 is ten. that— 15 years, two thirds of 15 is ten. that is— 15 years, two thirds of 15 is ten. that is where it falls down. so ultimately, the final hurdle we want to get— ultimately, the final hurdle we want to get over— ultimately, the final hurdle we want to get over is that domestic homicides and the sentencing become on par— homicides and the sentencing become on par with _ homicides and the sentencing become on par with other murders. if the adult _ on par with other murders. if the adult sentencing is increased to 25 years. _ adult sentencing is increased to 25 years. then — adult sentencing is increased to 25 years, then of course the youth sentencing willjust fall into place — sentencing will 'ust fall into lace. ~ . ~ sentencing will 'ust fall into .lace, . ., ~' ., sentencing will 'ust fall into lace. ~ ., ~ ., sentencing will 'ust fall into lace. .m' ., , place. we talked about your family. what about other _ place. we talked about your family. what about other families - place. we talked about your family. what about other families and - place. we talked about your family. | what about other families and other people, for example, relatives of victims, will this make a big difference to them going into the future, do you think? it difference to them going into the future, do you think?— future, do you think? it will do, because obviously _ future, do you think? it will do, because obviously youths - future, do you think? it will do, because obviously youths that l future, do you think? it will do, i because obviously youths that turn 18 will _ because obviously youths that turn 18 will not — because obviously youths that turn 18 will not be allowed to have a review. — 18 will not be allowed to have a review, and that is obviously a big cloud _ review, and that is obviously a big

cloud that — review, and that is obviously a big cloud that hangs over a lot of victims's _ cloud that hangs over a lot of victims's heads. and other sorts of crime. _ victims's heads. and other sorts of crime. the — victims's heads. and other sorts of crime, the youth sentencing will increase — crime, the youth sentencing will increase. but it doesn't increase across _ increase. but it doesn't increase across the — increase. but it doesn't increase across the board for domestic homicides. and this is why we are still campaigning with the government to get domestic homicides to be treated exactly the same as any other— to be treated exactly the same as any other homicide. as to be treated exactly the same as any other homicide. asi to be treated exactly the same as any other homicide. as i mentioned, ou have any other homicide. as i mentioned, you have campaigned _ any other homicide. as i mentioned, you have campaigned tirelessly. - you have campaigned tirelessly. there are changes being made. does it in any way help you? it there are changes being made. does it in any way help you?— it in any way help you? it does help us. it in any way help you? it does help us- robert — it in any way help you? it does help us. robert buckland, _ it in any way help you? it does help us. robert buckland, the _ it in any way help you? it does help us. robert buckland, the lord - us. robert buckland, the lord chancellor, has been listening to us. chancellor, has been listening to us and — chancellor, has been listening to us and in — chancellor, has been listening to us. and in his latest correspondence he does _ us. and in his latest correspondence he does reassure us that he is still looking _ he does reassure us that he is still looking at— he does reassure us that he is still looking at this and the sentencing for domestic homicides. we are crossing — for domestic homicides. we are crossing everything that in may, when _ crossing everything that in may, when the — crossing everything that in may, when the smart sentencing reform comes— when the smart sentencing reform comes back into parliament, that the appropriate _ comes back into parliament, that the appropriate changes will be made. it's appropriate changes will be made. it's good _ appropriate changes will be made. it's good to talk to you again. thank you very much as ever for your time. thank you. it is thank you very much as ever for your

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pleasantly surprised, because they are beautiful. now today, many of us are beautiful. now today, many of us are going to have a fine day until later on. later in the west of the weather is going to change. we have got stronger winds and some heavy rain coming ourway. got stronger winds and some heavy rain coming our way. that heralds a change for the rest of the week. it will become windier and wetter. what is happening is we have this area of cloud in the atlantic. it is an area of low pressure. it is a potent one with various fronts attached to it which would bring in some rain. it has been a cold start. we have had some frost and we have had a week where the front putting from the west to the east, taking its cloud and the odd spot of rain with it. but many will stay dry with some sunshine today, until later if you are in northern ireland and western scotland. you have got a thick cloud and some rain. if you are in the sunshine, gentle breezes, it won't feel too bad. the wind will continue to strengthen as we go through the latter part of the afternoon into the evening and overnight. these black circles give you an idea of

the wind through the evening across north—west scotland we could have gusts of up to 75 mph. that is damaging. the rain moves south and east, clearing scotland and northern ireland, leaving some showers on the gusty winds. some will be wintry on the tops of the hills and mountains. tomorrow it is going to be wet whichever way you look at it across england and wales. we have also got rain moving across scotland and northern ireland. gusty winds once again. these are our temperatures. fairly academic act six to 12 degrees. these are the gusts of wind you can expect in the latter part of the afternoon. it gives you an idea of where the strongest winds are likely to be. if anything, they will strengthen as we go through the overnight period. looking at the isobars on the chart tells you even inland we are looking at gales, severe gales with exposure. and they will be some very large waves around

as well in the west and through the english channel. on thursday the rain doesn't move away. we are left with some showers. wintriness on the hills and the mountains. although the wind will ease a little bit on thursday, it is still going to be gusty. you are still going to notice it. temperatures six to about 12 degrees, even if you have some sunshine. these are the gusts. we have got 57 in the north channel. 72 across the english channel. again, large waves. as for what happens after that, well, friday and into saturday the weather still remains unsettled. we are looking at the showers. some will be heavy and thundery with some hail. there will be sunshine in between on friday. these are the gusts of wind represented once again in the black circles. saturday sees further showers coming our way. there will be some sunshine in between. still gusty winds. not as gusty as they are going to be. into sunday we have got a more organised band of rain

coming our way. it is time in the next few days to batten down the hatches. carol, thank you. i think you will enjoy this next story. just over a week ago, the night sky above the uk was briefly lit up by a meteorite roaring its way towards earth. incredibly, fragments from that fireball have been recovered, after landing in a driveway in gloucestershire. let's find out more from dr ashley king, a research fellow at the natural history museum, who has been examining the debris. who looks very excited, by the way. look at that smile! you were telling us, we were talking last week, about the importance of trying to find this material. and, i mean, louisa says you're excited. give us an idea of that level of excitement? this sounds like incredible stuff? there we go! the arms are raised, with gloves on!— gloves on! yeah, it still hasn't sunk in. it's _

gloves on! yeah, it still hasn't sunk in. it's an _ gloves on! yeah, it still hasn't sunk in. it's an absolutely - sunk in. it's an absolutely incredible event that we have had in the past _ incredible event that we have had in the past week or so. it really is a once—in—a—lifetime thing. i hope with— once—in—a—lifetime thing. i hope with that — once—in—a—lifetime thing. i hope with that we might get a meteorite fall in_ with that we might get a meteorite fall in my— with that we might get a meteorite fall in my lifetime, never thought we would — fall in my lifetime, never thought we would get something as precious as the _ we would get something as precious as the one _ we would get something as precious as the one we have managed to recover— as the one we have managed to recover this week. at as the one we have managed to recover this week.— as the one we have managed to recover this week. at the moment we are lookin: recover this week. at the moment we are looking at — recover this week. at the moment we are looking at pictures _ recover this week. at the moment we are looking at pictures of— recover this week. at the moment we are looking at pictures of the - recover this week. at the moment we are looking at pictures of the flash . are looking at pictures of the flash across the night sky. i will come off those because i want you to show us what you have found. i know it's really precious. i'm not sure you can touch it. let's have a look. i am just going to hold it up. so, this is— am just going to hold it up. so, this is a — am just going to hold it up. so, this is a vial— am just going to hold it up. so, this is a vial of black powder. it is a carbonaceous meteorite. it is the first— is a carbonaceous meteorite. it is the first of— is a carbonaceous meteorite. it is the first of its kind ever recovered in the _ the first of its kind ever recovered in the united kingdom. it's soft and incredibly— in the united kingdom. it's soft and incredibly fragile. sol in the united kingdom. it's soft and incredibly fragile. so i don't want to get— incredibly fragile. so i don't want to get any— incredibly fragile. so i don't want to get any of it out to show you. when _ to get any of it out to show you. when you — to get any of it out to show you. when you handle them they crumble in your hand _ when you handle them they crumble in your hand. what is important for us

is to collect — your hand. what is important for us is to collect that material really quickly. — is to collect that material really quickly, so we can look after it. we saw our quickly, so we can look after it. saw your level quickly, so we can look after it. - saw your level of excitement. can you do us a favour? can you hold that back up to the camera for a while? many of us would probably never see this stuff again. targets are exactly what is in there. so. are exactly what is in there. so, this contains _ are exactly what is in there. so, this contains all _ are exactly what is in there. so, this contains all the _ are exactly what is in there. so, this contains all the ingredients that went into making our stars. you can see _ that went into making our stars. you can see the — that went into making our stars. you can see the dark colours. it probably— can see the dark colours. it probably contains a really simple, organic— probably contains a really simple, organic materials.— organic materials. sorry, can you turn it side _ organic materials. sorry, can you turn it side on? _ organic materials. sorry, can you turn it side on? we _ organic materials. sorry, can you turn it side on? we can - organic materials. sorry, can you turn it side on? we can just - organic materials. sorry, can you turn it side on? we can just see i organic materials. sorry, can you i turn it side on? we can just see the black base. and take it back a little bit towards you. there we go! there she is! sorry, carry on. right, so we have organic materials. we have _ right, so we have organic materials. we have found minerals which contain water _ we have found minerals which contain water locked in their structure. these — water locked in their structure. these are _ water locked in their structure. these are the ingredients that going into making our solar system. how do

we end _ into making our solar system. how do we end up— into making our solar system. how do we end up with oceans? it can answer questions _ we end up with oceans? it can answer questions like that. to we end up with oceans? it can answer questions like that.— questions like that. to be honest with ou, questions like that. to be honest with you. i— questions like that. to be honest with you. i was — questions like that. to be honest with you, i was expecting - questions like that. to be honest with you, i was expecting a - questions like that. to be honest| with you, i was expecting a larger rock! but my point is, how did somebody find that? so. but my point is, how did somebody find that? , ., , ., ., find that? so, this was amazing. it actually landed _ find that? so, this was amazing. it actually landed on _ find that? so, this was amazing. it actually landed on somebodymy i actually landed on somebodymy driveway. in gloucestershire. one of them _ driveway. in gloucestershire. one of them in _ driveway. in gloucestershire. one of them in the — driveway. in gloucestershire. one of them in the family heard the thud about— them in the family heard the thud about ten— them in the family heard the thud about ten o'clock last sunday. they didn't _ about ten o'clock last sunday. they didn't really think anything it. they— didn't really think anything it. they decided it was a picture frame falling _ they decided it was a picture frame falling out — they decided it was a picture frame falling out of a window. they woke the next _ falling out of a window. they woke the next morning and they had seen the next morning and they had seen the reports — the next morning and they had seen the reports that there had been potentially meteorite in the area. they looked on their driveway and there _ they looked on their driveway and there was— they looked on their driveway and there was a vial of material that wasn't _ there was a vial of material that wasn't there before they went to bed _ wasn't there before they went to bed. �* , ., , ., ., wasn't there before they went to bed. �* , ., , ., bed. and they were really good. you are tiven bed. and they were really good. you are given out — bed. and they were really good. you are given out the _ bed. and they were really good. you are given out the warnings _ bed. and they were really good. you are given out the warnings to - bed. and they were really good. you are given out the warnings to take i are given out the warnings to take care and everything. they were really cautious. they do the right things, did they?—

things, did they? yes, they did absolutely _ things, did they? yes, they did absolutely everything - things, did they? yes, they did| absolutely everything perfectly. things, did they? yes, they did i absolutely everything perfectly. i think— absolutely everything perfectly. i think this material, this batch of material. — think this material, this batch of material, is collected less than 12 hours _ material, is collected less than 12 hours after — material, is collected less than 12 hours after it landed on the surface of the _ hours after it landed on the surface of the earth. they put it into this ba- of the earth. they put it into this bag so _ of the earth. they put it into this bag so it— of the earth. they put it into this bag so it was not exposed. that really _ bag so it was not exposed. that really is — bag so it was not exposed. that really is crucial for us to do amazing _ really is crucial for us to do amazing science with this rock. so these _ amazing science with this rock. so these are — amazing science with this rock. so these are really fragile. they deteriorate really quickly. so we wanted — deteriorate really quickly. so we wanted to recover this as quickly as we possibly— wanted to recover this as quickly as we possibly could, get it into the appropriate storage conditions and let the _ appropriate storage conditions and let the science begin. gk. appropriate storage conditions and let the science begin.— let the science begin. ok, so obviously _ let the science begin. ok, so obviously you _ let the science begin. ok, so obviously you had _ let the science begin. ok, so obviously you had to - let the science begin. ok, so obviously you had to handle i let the science begin. ok, so| obviously you had to handle it let the science begin. ok, so - obviously you had to handle it very carefully. what happens now? ltutfhat carefully. what happens now? what are ou carefully. what happens now? what are you going _ carefully. what happens now? what are you going to _ carefully. what happens now? what are you going to do? _ carefully. what happens now? what are you going to do? so, we are putting — are you going to do? so, we are putting it — are you going to do? so, we are putting it into proper storage, so it will— putting it into proper storage, so it will go— putting it into proper storage, so it will go into proper boxes in special— it will go into proper boxes in special containers that stop it interacting with our atmosphere. this really— interacting with our atmosphere. this really was a team effort. it was not — this really was a team effort. it was notjust me doing this. this was a whole _ was notjust me doing this. this was a whole group of research institutions across the united kingdom working to recover this meteorite. we have all got suites of

specialised — meteorite. we have all got suites of specialised equipment that will help us to study the organic components, the minerals and what was going on in our— the minerals and what was going on in our solar— the minerals and what was going on in our solar system 4.6 billion years— in our solar system 4.6 billion years ago _ in our solar system 4.6 billion years ago-— in our solar system 4.6 billion earsato. a , �* . years ago. and ashley, i'm 'ust still years ago. and ashley, i'm 'ust stiu giggling i years ago. and ashley, i'm 'ust still giggling about- years ago. and ashley, i'm 'ust still giggling about what . years ago. and ashley, i'm just still giggling about what louise | still giggling about what louise said when you are talking about this amazing dust you have got, she is disappointed it is not big enough! yeah, so i should say that we actually — yeah, so i should say that we actually recovered nearly half a kilo of — actually recovered nearly half a kilo of material. i'm showing you some _ kilo of material. i'm showing you some of— kilo of material. i'm showing you some of the black here. we do have some _ some of the black here. we do have some larger— some of the black here. we do have some larger stones that are tens of grams _ some larger stones that are tens of grams in _ some larger stones that are tens of grams in size. there is plenty of stuff— grams in size. there is plenty of stuff for— grams in size. there is plenty of stuff for us _ grams in size. there is plenty of stuff for us to work with.- stuff for us to work with. what i love about _ stuff for us to work with. what i love about this _ stuff for us to work with. what i love about this story, _ stuff for us to work with. what i love about this story, i - stuff for us to work with. what i love about this story, i think. stuff for us to work with. what i love about this story, i think we were talking to you however long ago it was, and you said, go and look for this bit of meteorite and summary actually find it. it's just incredible? summary actually find it. it's 'ust incredible?— incredible? yes, basically ifi had to ian incredible? yes, basically ifi had to [an a incredible? yes, basically ifi had to plan a meteorite _ incredible? yes, basically ifi had to plan a meteorite falling - incredible? yes, basically ifi had to plan a meteorite falling in - incredible? yes, basically ifi had to plan a meteorite falling in the | to plan a meteorite falling in the uk, to plan a meteorite falling in the uk. this— to plan a meteorite falling in the uk, this would be the perfect scenario _ uk, this would be the perfect scenario. we got the message out

really— scenario. we got the message out really quickly, they saw this information, they got in touch with us on _ information, they got in touch with us on monday telling us they thought they might have an immediate right. we could _ they might have an immediate right. we could recover it, get it into the museum _ we could recover it, get it into the museum within days of that event happening. that's incredibly rare. these _ happening. that's incredibly rare. these types of meteorite, we only have 65,000 worldwide. only 51 of those _ have 65,000 worldwide. only 51 of those are _ have 65,000 worldwide. only 51 of those are of this type and were actually— those are of this type and were actually seen to come through the atmosphere. | actually seen to come through the atmosphere-— actually seen to come through the atmosphere. i am going to have to contain my — atmosphere. i am going to have to contain my disappointment - atmosphere. i am going to have to contain my disappointment at - atmosphere. i am going to have to contain my disappointment at the l contain my disappointment at the size. thank you so much. thank you so much. it's great to talk to you. if you could come back with a bigger bit! you're watching bbc breakfast. it's 8.59.

hello. this is bbc news, i'm victoria derbyshire. here are the headlines this tuesday morning. silence so far from buckingham palace, which has yet to comment on harry and meghan's explosive claims in that tv interview. meghan's dad, thomas markle, said he was "disappointed" with the interview, and said this about the claim that an unnamed royal family member asked "how dark" archie's skin might be. i don't think the british royal family are racist, i don't think the british are racist. i think los angeles is racist, california is racist, but i don't think the brits are. harry says in part the couple left the uk because of the bigoted british tabloid newspapers — has he got a point or not? let me know what you think,

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