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specialists and the foreign correspondents, who file their stories for audiences back home, dateline: london. this week: borisjohnson boasts of vaccine success. his government says two jabs will be followed by a covid booster in the autumn — as europeans struggle with too many infections and too few doses of vaccine. a rare mis—step by angela merkel — have germans, and others, had enough of lockdown? and the evergreen trafficjam that risked withering global trade. with me this weekend... ashis ray, from india, is approaching 45 years as a foreign correspondent, as well as serving at the crease as a cricket commentator. stefanie bolzen is uk and ireland correspondent for germany's welt. with me here, clive myrie, who reports internationally for the bbc as well as presenting the news back home. "the reason we have the vaccine success", prime minister boris johnson is reported to have told his mps this week, "is because of capitalism, because of greed."
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whether he was joking or saying what he thinks in an unguarded moment during a private meeting, its perhaps more accurate to say that globalisation, which helped covid's rapid spread, is critical to vaccination success. this weekend uk government ministers predicted a boosterjab by september. but india has halted exports and europe is threatening to. stefanie, let's talk about what is happening. they are pretty troubled by what has been happening. they singled out the uk in particular. what is there problem and what of the changes that are likely to follow from this? do you think they are follow —— they will follow through on the threats? are follow -- they will follow through on the threats? yes, well, it's a very interesting _ through on the threats? yes, well, it's a very interesting question. - it's a very interesting question. for now, it has only been threats. interestingly, there are reports in the uk and also back in europe that right now, there are talks going on between the british government and the european commission, who have
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found an agreement after what has been a very tumultuous week, where the european commission actually made their possibilities to stop exporting vaccines produced in europe to the uk and to other parts of the world even more likely and stronger measures that they can take. so, they said that in the future, the european commission would look at proportionality and how many vaccines the country actually has which is receiving vaccines from europe. for example, astrazeneca is produced in the uk and these vaccine should also go to europe. the commission released numbers and the numbers are quite staggering in the way that half of what is produced in the european union goes outside the european union goes outside the european union and the slow roll—out in europe has led to problems for the politicians in europe. if}
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europe has led to problems for the politicians in europe.— politicians in europe. 30 million vaccines have _ politicians in europe. 30 million vaccines have gone _ politicians in europe. 30 million vaccines have gone to _ politicians in europe. 30 million vaccines have gone to the - politicians in europe. 30 million vaccines have gone to the uk i politicians in europe. 30 million i vaccines have gone to the uk and politicians in europe. 30 million - vaccines have gone to the uk and the uk has exported to the eu, none. well, yes. we don't know because there haven't been any number is officially released by the british government birds, of course, it is all about reciprocity and if you talk about the british government talking about a third vaccine— a booster vaccine. you might say that in britain, for example, the parts of the biotech vaccine are produced in yorkshire. there is complete interdependence, so if the british are not delivering any more, biontech cannot produce and biontech will not come to the uk. in germany, we have seen a rather tumultuous
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week but i think we have to talk about that anyway. why is my guess, we have got plenty more to talk about on this, haven't we? part of the doses that _ about on this, haven't we? part of the doses that the _ about on this, haven't we? part of the doses that the british - the doses that the british government was expecting to get from astrazeneca are actually manufactured with the institute in india. tell us a bit about the institute and also what the implications are from the problem is that they are experiencing in sourcing some of the elements of that from the united states? weill. that from the united states? well, festivals, that from the united states? well, festivals. the _ that from the united states? well, festivals, the institute _ that from the united states? well, festivals, the institute is _ that from the united states? well, festivals, the institute is the - festivals, the institute is the world — festivals, the institute is the world world's biggest manufacturer of vaccines and they have been very much _ of vaccines and they have been very much at _ of vaccines and they have been very much at the — of vaccines and they have been very much at the forefront of supplies, not only— much at the forefront of supplies, not only within india but also exporting to other countries by virtue — exporting to other countries by virtue of— exporting to other countries by virtue of the indian government's insistence — virtue of the indian government's insistence that it does so and come over and _ insistence that it does so and come over and above, it has a commitment of 550 _ over and above, it has a commitment of 550 million doses to kovacs,
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which _ of 550 million doses to kovacs, which is — of 550 million doses to kovacs, which is run by the world health organization. —— to covax. between the serum _ organization. —— to covax. between the serum institute and astrazeneca, the serum institute and astrazeneca, the institute... they are both manufacturing the same oxford vaccine — manufacturing the same oxford vaccine. so, as a result of this, astrazeneca _ vaccine. so, as a result of this, astrazeneca asked for 5 million doses— astrazeneca asked for 5 million doses to — astrazeneca asked for 5 million doses to be sent to the uk and in that situation, the difficulty that arose _ that situation, the difficulty that arose was this, there was no problem until a _ arose was this, there was no problem untii a few— arose was this, there was no problem until a few weeks ago, when they were _ until a few weeks ago, when they were merrily exporting to other countries — were merrily exporting to other countries to the extent that india was exporting more than it had made available _ was exporting more than it had made available to _ was exporting more than it had made available to its own people and this came _ available to its own people and this came under severe criticism in the indian _ came under severe criticism in the indian parliament from indian opposition members of parliament and
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is, also, _ opposition members of parliament and is, also, all— opposition members of parliament and is, also, all ofa opposition members of parliament and is, also, all of a sudden there is now— is, also, all of a sudden there is now what— is, also, all of a sudden there is now what is— is, also, all of a sudden there is now what is being called a second wave _ now what is being called a second wave in— now what is being called a second wave in india. in fact, in the past 24 hours. — wave in india. in fact, in the past 24 hours, more than 62,000 new cases have been— 24 hours, more than 62,000 new cases have been detected and that being the case — have been detected and that being the case, the indian government has now clamped down and told all indian companies, _ now clamped down and told all indian companies, including serum institute that you _ companies, including serum institute that you cannot export any more untit— that you cannot export any more until further notice. so, that you cannot export any more untilfurther notice. so, this that you cannot export any more until further notice. so, this is the difficulty and this present point — the difficulty and this present point of— the difficulty and this present point of time, the institute has applied — point of time, the institute has applied to the indian government for applied to the indian government for a licence _ applied to the indian government for a licence to— applied to the indian government for a licence to fulfil this obligation of 5 million to the uk. and to astrazeneca. and my best guess is, that you _ astrazeneca. and my best guess is, that you will see a slight delay in that you will see a slight delay in that export but it will happen in due course. it will not happen immediately but it will happen in due course. as the two governments,
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that is— due course. as the two governments, that is the _ due course. as the two governments, that is the government of the united kingdom _ that is the government of the united kingdom and the indian government, sort this— kingdom and the indian government, sort this matter out. boris kingdom and the indian government, sort this matter out.— sort this matter out. boris johnson is due to celebrate _ sort this matter out. boris johnson is due to celebrate india's - is due to celebrate india's important national day very shortly, isn't he? we will be talking about that hopefully on dateline in the coming weeks. there is a connection between india and the uk. here is another one, the institute says it relies in part of some key materials, such as bioreactors filters and bags, i don't know quite what that means goals they come from the united states and they have... what you are seeing here is basic commerce — what you are seeing here is basic commerce being _ what you are seeing here is basic commerce being broken - what you are seeing here is basic commerce being broken on - what you are seeing here is basic commerce being broken on the l what you are seeing here is basic- commerce being broken on the wheel of national— commerce being broken on the wheel of national priorities. _ commerce being broken on the wheel of national priorities. so, _ of national priorities. so, agreements _ of national priorities. so, agreements were - of national priorities. so, agreements were made i of national priorities. so, - agreements were made between of national priorities. so, _ agreements were made between the companies _ agreements were made between the companies and — agreements were made between the companies and the _ agreements were made between the companies and the european - agreements were made between the companies and the european union i agreements were made between thel companies and the european union in order— companies and the european union in order to _ companies and the european union in order to produce _ companies and the european union in order to produce certain _ companies and the european union in order to produce certain stocks- companies and the european union in
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order to produce certain stocks of- order to produce certain stocks of vaccines — order to produce certain stocks of vaccines those _ order to produce certain stocks of vaccines. those agreements - order to produce certain stocks ofi vaccines. those agreements were order to produce certain stocks of- vaccines. those agreements were also made _ vaccines. those agreements were also made with— vaccines. those agreements were also made with other — vaccines. those agreements were also made with other countries. _ vaccines. those agreements were also made with other countries. as - vaccines. those agreements were also made with other countries. as a - made with other countries. as a result, — made with other countries. as a result, you _ made with other countries. as a result, you have _ made with other countries. as a result, you have got— made with other countries. as a result, you have got stocks - made with other countries. as a. result, you have got stocks being made _ result, you have got stocks being made in — result, you have got stocks being made in europe _ result, you have got stocks being made in europe that _ result, you have got stocks being made in europe that are - result, you have got stocks being made in europe that are being i result, you have got stocks being l made in europe that are being sent all of— made in europe that are being sent all of the _ made in europe that are being sent all of the world _ made in europe that are being sent all of the world because _ made in europe that are being sent all of the world because of - made in europe that are being sent all of the world because of those i all of the world because of those agreements _ all of the world because of those agreements. india _ all of the world because of those agreements. india makes- all of the world because of those . agreements. india makes contracts with some — agreements. india makes contracts with some of— agreements. india makes contracts with some of these _ agreements. india makes contracts with some of these companies - agreements. india makes contracts| with some of these companies and, agreements. india makes contracts. with some of these companies and, as a result, _ with some of these companies and, as a result, stocks — with some of these companies and, as a result, stocks are _ with some of these companies and, as a result, stocks are leaving _ with some of these companies and, as a result, stocks are leaving india - a result, stocks are leaving india because — a result, stocks are leaving india because of— a result, stocks are leaving india because of commerce _ a result, stocks are leaving india because of commerce and - a result, stocks are leaving india because of commerce and those | a result, stocks are leaving india - because of commerce and those deals that are _ because of commerce and those deals that are made — because of commerce and those deals that are made. but, _ because of commerce and those deals that are made. but, india _ because of commerce and those deals that are made. but, india is— because of commerce and those deals that are made. but, india is seeing. that are made. but, india is seeing a rise _ that are made. but, india is seeing a rise in— that are made. but, india is seeing a rise in their— that are made. but, india is seeing a rise in their infection— that are made. but, india is seeing a rise in their infection rates. - that are made. but, india is seeing a rise in their infection rates. joe . a rise in their infection rates. joe biden, _ a rise in their infection rates. joe biden, inherits— a rise in their infection rates. joe biden, inherits a _ a rise in their infection rates. joe biden, inherits a particularly- biden, inherits a particularly appalling _ biden, inherits a particularly appalling vaccine _ biden, inherits a particularly appalling vaccine roll—out i biden, inherits a particularly. appalling vaccine roll—out from biden, inherits a particularly- appalling vaccine roll—out from the trump _ appalling vaccine roll—out from the trump administration _ appalling vaccine roll—out from the trump administration and - appalling vaccine roll—out from the trump administration and he - appalling vaccine roll—out from the trump administration and he says, appalling vaccine roll—out from the. trump administration and he says, i am going _ trump administration and he says, i am going to — trump administration and he says, i am going to invoke _ trump administration and he says, i am going to invoke the _ trump administration and he says, i am going to invoke the defence - am going to invoke the defence protection _ am going to invoke the defence protection acts— am going to invoke the defence protection acts which _ am going to invoke the defence protection acts which means i am going to invoke the defence. protection acts which means that am going to invoke the defence - protection acts which means that he can take _ protection acts which means that he can take control— protection acts which means that he can take control of— protection acts which means that he can take control of certain _ protection acts which means that he can take control of certain suppliesl can take control of certain supplies of products— can take control of certain supplies of products in _ can take control of certain supplies of products in the _ can take control of certain supplies of products in the supply _ can take control of certain supplies of products in the supply chain, - of products in the supply chain, which _ of products in the supply chain, which leads— of products in the supply chain, which leads to _ of products in the supply chain, which leads to moderna - of products in the supply chain, which leads to moderna and - of products in the supply chain, i which leads to moderna and pfizer of products in the supply chain, - which leads to moderna and pfizer to say they— which leads to moderna and pfizer to say they will — which leads to moderna and pfizer to say they will increase _ which leads to moderna and pfizer to say they will increase the _ which leads to moderna and pfizer to say they will increase the supply, - say they will increase the supply, so that _ say they will increase the supply, so that they _ say they will increase the supply, so that they can _ say they will increase the supply, so that they can vaccinate - so that they can vaccinate everybody _ so that they can vaccinate everybody. so, _ so that they can vaccinate everybody. so, you - so that they can vaccinate everybody. so, you are i so that they can vaccinate i
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everybody. so, you are seen so that they can vaccinate _ everybody. so, you are seen commerce to essentially _ everybody. so, you are seen commerce to essentially undercut _ everybody. so, you are seen commerce to essentially undercut boris _ to essentially undercut boris johnson's _ to essentially undercut boris johnson's claimed _ to essentially undercut boris johnson's claimed that - to essentially undercut boris johnson's claimed that it - to essentially undercut boris johnson's claimed that it is. to essentially undercut borisi johnson's claimed that it is all about— johnson's claimed that it is all about capitalism _ johnson's claimed that it is all about capitalism and - johnson's claimed that it is all about capitalism and greed. l johnson's claimed that it is all. about capitalism and greed. you johnson's claimed that it is all- about capitalism and greed. you are seeing _ about capitalism and greed. you are seeing has _ about capitalism and greed. you are seeing has been _ about capitalism and greed. you are seeing has been completely- about capitalism and greed. you are seeing has been completely wiped l seeing has been completely wiped away by— seeing has been completely wiped away by national _ seeing has been completely wiped away by national priorities. - seeing has been completely wiped away by national priorities. the i away by national priorities. the fact is, — away by national priorities. the fact is, variants— away by national priorities. the fact is, variants can _ away by national priorities. the fact is, variants can spread - away by national priorities. the | fact is, variants can spread stop away by national priorities. the - fact is, variants can spread stop we are in— fact is, variants can spread stop we are in a _ fact is, variants can spread stop we are in a globalised _ fact is, variants can spread stop we are in a globalised world _ fact is, variants can spread stop we are in a globalised world and - fact is, variants can spread stop we are in a globalised world and as - fact is, variants can spread stop we are in a globalised world and as a l are in a globalised world and as a result, _ are in a globalised world and as a result, we — are in a globalised world and as a result, we have _ are in a globalised world and as a result, we have to _ are in a globalised world and as a result, we have to work- are in a globalised world and as a | result, we have to work together. nationalism — result, we have to work together. nationalism will— result, we have to work together. nationalism will not _ result, we have to work together. nationalism will not solve - result, we have to work together. nationalism will not solve this - result, we have to work together. | nationalism will not solve this but that is— nationalism will not solve this but that is where _ nationalism will not solve this but that is where we _ nationalism will not solve this but that is where we are. _ nationalism will not solve this but that is where we are.— that is where we are. meanwhile, ashis has referred _ that is where we are. meanwhile, ashis has referred to _ that is where we are. meanwhile, ashis has referred to covax. - that is where we are. meanwhile, | ashis has referred to covax. right now, we must work done at wonder why people are talking about boosters. —— we must wonder why people are talking about boosters because we haven't even got the doses yet. "my mistake", german chancellor angela merkel told a news conference wednesday, after she scrapped a five day easter lockdown just 48 hours after it was announced. a third wave of infection is stalking europeans, including germans, but protests against lockdown are being experienced, both on the continent and in the uk. here, many have bridled at the idea, floated by mrjohnson, of having to show proof of vaccination even to visit the pub.
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ashis, in terms of the prospects of this overtime, it looks as if pandemic, virus, will eventually become endemic. have we had enough of a debate yet about what the implications of that are for personal freedom against the desire to protect? in personal freedom against the desire to rotect? .,. personal freedom against the desire to rotect? .. , , personal freedom against the desire to rotect? , , ., to protect? in fact, it seems to me that we are — to protect? in fact, it seems to me that we are in _ to protect? in fact, it seems to me that we are in a _ to protect? in fact, it seems to me that we are in a firefighting - that we are in a firefighting situation. you douse the fire at one point _ situation. you douse the fire at one point and _ situation. you douse the fire at one point and a — situation. you douse the fire at one point and a fire arises in another. although — point and a fire arises in another. although i — point and a fire arises in another. although i have said this before that last — although i have said this before that last year, i think there was bundling — that last year, i think there was bundling by the british government and as— bundling by the british government and as a _ bundling by the british government and as a result, waves of the disease — and as a result, waves of the disease have occurred and more people — disease have occurred and more people than necessary have died, but the vaccination has gone very well in britain — the vaccination has gone very well in britain and i think there is room for conservatism with a small c. in
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this situation, rather than being aggressive and ambitious and thinking — aggressive and ambitious and thinking about opening up businesses because _ thinking about opening up businesses because you could have another wave of infection _ because you could have another wave of infection if that aggressive approach is adopted, sol of infection if that aggressive approach is adopted, so i am very much _ approach is adopted, so i am very much with— approach is adopted, so i am very much with the british government on this. much with the british government on this i_ much with the british government on this. i believe the opposition parties — this. i believe the opposition parties with the party, government on this— parties with the party, government on this as — parties with the party, government on this as well —— i believe the opposition— on this as well —— i believe the opposition parties are with the government on this as well. stefanie. _ government on this as well. stefanie, we heard this question of the angela merkel apology. how much do you think this reversal of policy in a matter of hours or a couple of daysis in a matter of hours or a couple of days is down to a sense that germans have had enough of the restrictions, which they have been labouring under pretty much for the whole of the last year? pretty much for the whole of the last ear? , , , ., , ., last year? definitely, germans have had enough- — last year? definitely, germans have had enough. that _ last year? definitely, germans have had enough. that is _ last year? definitely, germans have had enough. that is certainly - last year? definitely, germans have had enough. that is certainly not. last year? definitely, germans have had enough. that is certainly not a l had enough. that is certainly not a phenomena only restricted to germany. all over europe, people are
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very frustrated mainly because the vaccine roll—out is so slow. if you look at the uk, more or less it has four times more vaccines even per aduu four times more vaccines even per adult then the eu average. someone yesterday on the phone in germany said to me, look, compliance is a good thing and people do comply but if there is something to look forward to. here in the uk, the vaccine roll—out goes really well and you have days, where lockdown will be restricted, while on the continent it goes the other way and lockdowns are really being introduced again. for example, poland isjust going back into lockdown for three weeks. in belgium, restrictions are coming backin belgium, restrictions are coming back in again. they are now stopping traffic between france and germany, so from sunday night on, you have to show a negative test if you want to from france into germany and that's why people are getting very impatient and they are getting angry because nothing is improving. of
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course, angela merkel is asking for forgiveness and that was also in the context of the german election looming. in september, there is a federal election and just now the cdu had the biggest drop on record in the polls this week. on top of the difficult situation of the pandemic in germany, there is an increasing difficult situation with the election.— the election. there are lots of countries. _ the election. there are lots of countries, where _ the election. there are lots of countries, where people - the election. there are lots of countries, where people have| countries, where people have resisted restrictions on freedom and liberty. it has been done for health reasons but there are always suspicions that it has been done for political convenience or because there are some countries with some governments, where their instinct is to restrict not to liberate. that
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governments, where their instinct is to restrict not to liberate.— to restrict not to liberate. that is absolutely _ to restrict not to liberate. that is absolutely true. _ to restrict not to liberate. that is absolutely true. by _ to restrict not to liberate. that is absolutely true. by and - to restrict not to liberate. that is absolutely true. by and large - to restrict not to liberate. that is absolutely true. by and large in i to restrict not to liberate. that is i absolutely true. by and large in the developing world, i would say that it is easier— developing world, i would say that it is easier to impose restrictions because — it is easier to impose restrictions because governments tend to be autocratic. in india for instance, the position of lockdowns have been somewhat— the position of lockdowns have been somewhat haphazard and they have been detrimental. for instance, the one that _ been detrimental. for instance, the one that took place in march of last year was _ one that took place in march of last year was ordered within four hours, so the _ year was ordered within four hours, so the matter did not go through parliament at all. when it came into force _ parliament at all. when it came into force it _ parliament at all. when it came into force. it continues again in a somewhat— force. it continues again in a somewhat iron scientific manner for it was— somewhat iron scientific manner for it was lifted —— unscientific manner _ it was lifted —— unscientific manner a— it was lifted —— unscientific manner. a month and a half ago, the lndian _ manner. a month and a half ago, the indian government was proclaiming that freedom has been achieved but it wasn't— that freedom has been achieved but it wasn't the case and we have the situation _ it wasn't the case and we have the situation of — it wasn't the case and we have the situation of an alarming rise now in lndia _ situation of an alarming rise now in lndia of— situation of an alarming rise now in india of cases and doctors are predicting that this second wave in india predicting that this second wave in lndia could — predicting that this second wave in india could be worse than the first
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wave _ india could be worse than the first wave in— india could be worse than the first wave in a — india could be worse than the first wave. in a liberal democracy like western— wave. in a liberal democracy like western democracies and in britain. i western democracies and in britain. i would _ western democracies and in britain. i would say— western democracies and in britain. i would say that it's less easy because _ i would say that it's less easy because there will be contentious issues, _ because there will be contentious issues, challenges will take place. you mentioned the matter of a vaccine — you mentioned the matter of a vaccine certificate to enter pubs but if _ vaccine certificate to enter pubs but if you — vaccine certificate to enter pubs but if you have got people who have -ot but if you have got people who have got to _ but if you have got people who have got to doses of the vaccine to enter the pub— got to doses of the vaccine to enter the pub and — got to doses of the vaccine to enter the pub and you don't allow others who may— the pub and you don't allow others who may or— the pub and you don't allow others who may or may not have been offered to doses _ who may or may not have been offered to doses or— who may or may not have been offered to doses or who may not qualify. the younger _ to doses or who may not qualify. the younger generation for instance wanting — younger generation for instance wanting to go to a pub may not have -ot wanting to go to a pub may not have got to— wanting to go to a pub may not have got to a _ wanting to go to a pub may not have got to a stage of vaccination, then that would — got to a stage of vaccination, then that would certainly amount to discrimination, but i would venture to say— discrimination, but i would venture to say that — discrimination, but i would venture to say that this is not that much of a problem — to say that this is not that much of a problem in developing countries, sadly— a problem in developing countries, sadly so~ _ a problem in developing countries, sadly so it — a problem in developing countries, sadly so. it should be so but i
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think— sadly so. it should be so but i think it — sadly so. it should be so but i think it is _ sadly so. it should be so but i think it is something that the world will have _ think it is something that the world will have to grapple with because this problem, this coronavirus, does not seem _ this problem, this coronavirus, does not seem to — this problem, this coronavirus, does not seem to be going away in a hurry. — not seem to be going away in a hurry. and _ not seem to be going away in a hurry, and so it could be a pretty long — hurry, and so it could be a pretty long haut— hurry, and so it could be a pretty long haul and the world will have to adjust _ long haul and the world will have to adjust to— long haul and the world will have to adjust to living with it rather than wishing _ adjust to living with it rather than wishing it — adjust to living with it rather than wishing it away. do adjust to living with it rather than wishing it away.— adjust to living with it rather than wishing it away. do you think that this question _ wishing it away. do you think that this question of _ wishing it away. do you think that this question of how— wishing it away. do you think that this question of how we _ wishing it away. do you think that this question of how we are - wishing it away. do you think that this question of how we are goingj wishing it away. do you think that i this question of how we are going to persuade people rather thanjust persuade people rather than just instruct persuade people rather thanjust instruct people, something will have to change, won't it about how we handle it? ~ ., , , handle it? what is interesting in the uk is that _ handle it? what is interesting in the uk is that its _ handle it? what is interesting in the uk is that its position - handle it? what is interesting in the uk is that its position is - the uk is that its position is primarily— the uk is that its position is primarily coming _ the uk is that its position is primarily coming from - the uk is that its position is primarily coming from the i the uk is that its position is - primarily coming from the prime minister's — primarily coming from the prime minister's own— primarily coming from the prime minister's own backbenches. - primarily coming from the prime | minister's own backbenches. the polls _ minister's own backbenches. the polls consistent _ minister's own backbenches. the polls consistent here _ minister's own backbenches. the polls consistent here that - minister's own backbenches. the polls consistent here that the - polls consistent here that the british— polls consistent here that the british people _ polls consistent here that the british people believe - polls consistent here that the british people believe that. polls consistent here that the british people believe that iti polls consistent here that the i british people believe that it has to be _ british people believe that it has to be done _ british people believe that it has to be done. boris _
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british people believe that it has to be done. borisjohnson - british people believe that it has to be done. borisjohnson has i british people believe that it has to be done. borisjohnson has to british people believe that it has i to be done. borisjohnson has to be mindful— to be done. borisjohnson has to be mindful of— to be done. borisjohnson has to be mindful of the — to be done. borisjohnson has to be mindful of the voices _ to be done. borisjohnson has to be mindful of the voices even - to be done. borisjohnson has to be mindful of the voices even though i to be done. borisjohnson has to be. mindful of the voices even though he does have _ mindful of the voices even though he does have an — mindful of the voices even though he does have an 80 _ mindful of the voices even though he does have an 80 seat _ mindful of the voices even though he does have an 80 seat majority. - mindful of the voices even though he does have an 80 seat majority. even| does have an 80 seat majority. even though _ does have an 80 seat majority. even though the _ does have an 80 seat majority. even though the vaccine _ does have an 80 seat majority. even though the vaccine roll—out - does have an 80 seat majority. even though the vaccine roll—out has - does have an 80 seat majority. even| though the vaccine roll—out has been successful. _ though the vaccine roll—out has been successful. he — though the vaccine roll—out has been successful, he is— though the vaccine roll—out has been successful, he is being _ though the vaccine roll—out has been successful, he is being done - though the vaccine roll—out has been successful, he is being done at - successful, he is being done at seeing — successful, he is being done at seeing his— successful, he is being done at seeing his -- _ successful, he is being done at seeing his —— he— successful, he is being done at seeing his —— he is— successful, he is being done at seeing his —— he is seeing- successful, he is being done at seeing his —— he is seeing his. successful, he is being done at - seeing his —— he is seeing his goals rise _ seeing his —— he is seeing his goals rise he _ seeing his —— he is seeing his goals rise he is— seeing his —— he is seeing his goals rise he is saying _ seeing his —— he is seeing his goals rise. he is saying that— seeing his —— he is seeing his goals rise. he is saying that if— seeing his —— he is seeing his goals rise. he is saying that if we - seeing his —— he is seeing his goals rise. he is saying that if we need i rise. he is saying that if we need to lock— rise. he is saying that if we need to lock down _ rise. he is saying that if we need to lock down for _ rise. he is saying that if we need to lock down for a _ rise. he is saying that if we need to lock down for a little - rise. he is saying that if we need to lock down for a little longer, i to lock down for a little longer, then— to lock down for a little longer, then it — to lock down for a little longer, then it is — to lock down for a little longer, then it is going _ to lock down for a little longer, then it is going to _ to lock down for a little longer, then it is going to have - to lock down for a little longer, then it is going to have to - to lock down for a little longer, then it is going to have to be i to lock down for a little longer, - then it is going to have to be done. he is— then it is going to have to be done. he is very— then it is going to have to be done. he is very cautious, _ then it is going to have to be done. he is very cautious, he _ then it is going to have to be done. he is very cautious, he is— then it is going to have to be done. he is very cautious, he is very - he is very cautious, he is very worried — he is very cautious, he is very worried about _ he is very cautious, he is very worried about the _ he is very cautious, he is very worried about the winter - he is very cautious, he is very i worried about the winter coming. he is very cautious, he is very - worried about the winter coming. he is worried _ worried about the winter coming. he is worried about _ worried about the winter coming. he is worried about the _ worried about the winter coming. he is worried about the continent - worried about the winter coming. he is worried about the continent and i is worried about the continent and the longer— is worried about the continent and the longer this— is worried about the continent and the longer this vaccine _ is worried about the continent and the longer this vaccine is - is worried about the continent and the longer this vaccine is out - the longer this vaccine is out there. — the longer this vaccine is out there. the _ the longer this vaccine is out there, the more _ the longer this vaccine is out there, the more chance - the longer this vaccine is outi there, the more chance there the longer this vaccine is out. there, the more chance there is mutation — there, the more chance there is mutation he _ there, the more chance there is mutation. he is— there, the more chance there is mutation. he is talking - there, the more chance there is mutation. he is talking about i there, the more chance there is. mutation. he is talking about the possibility— mutation. he is talking about the possibility of _ mutation. he is talking about the possibility of still— mutation. he is talking about the possibility of still having - possibility of still having restrictions _ possibility of still having restrictions come - possibility of still having . restrictions come christmas possibility of still having - restrictions come christmas time. this is— restrictions come christmas time. this is chris — restrictions come christmas time. this is chris whitty. _ restrictions come christmas time. this is chris whitty. you - restrictions come christmas time. this is chris whitty. you have - restrictions come christmas time. this is chris whitty. you have got| this is chris whitty. you have got this good — this is chris whitty. you have got this good cop, _ this is chris whitty. you have got this good cop, bad _ this is chris whitty. you have got this good cop, bad cop— this is chris whitty. you have got this good cop, bad cop with - this is chris whitty. you have got this good cop, bad cop with borisj this good cop, bad cop with boris johnson — this good cop, bad cop with boris johnson but — this good cop, bad cop with boris johnson but he _ this good cop, bad cop with boris johnson but he clearly— this good cop, bad cop with boris johnson but he clearly has - this good cop, bad cop with boris - johnson but he clearly has manoeuvre because _ johnson but he clearly has manoeuvre because at _ johnson but he clearly has manoeuvre because at the — johnson but he clearly has manoeuvre because at the moment, _ johnson but he clearly has manoeuvre because at the moment, the - johnson but he clearly has manoeuvre because at the moment, the british. because at the moment, the british public— because at the moment, the british public are _ because at the moment, the british public are listening _
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because at the moment, the british public are listening to _ because at the moment, the british public are listening to him - because at the moment, the british public are listening to him and - because at the moment, the british public are listening to him and he i public are listening to him and he doesn't _ public are listening to him and he doesn't have _ public are listening to him and he doesn't have to _ public are listening to him and he doesn't have to listen _ public are listening to him and he doesn't have to listen to - public are listening to him and he doesn't have to listen to those i doesn't have to listen to those voices— doesn't have to listen to those voices in— doesn't have to listen to those voices in his _ doesn't have to listen to those voices in his backbenches. - now, it's almost as long as new york's empire state building is high, and it spent most of the week blocking egypt's suez canal. the evergreen, stranded in a sandstorm, caused an almighty traffic jam. the alternative — take the pre—1880s route for freight going around africa. even with 21st century ships, that's quite a diversion — up to three weeks. ashis, there is something kind of almost funny about the idea that despite all of the logistics and all of the modern technology that the combination of a bit of bad weather, a really bad sand storm, and a troublesome three—point turn can jam one of the most important waterways in the world but in a sense, it is potentially a lot more serious, isn't it? notjust because of the economic cost but because of the strategic significance of this canal. . , ,., , strategic significance of this canal. . , , , , strategic significance of this canal. absolutely. it seems amusing for a moment _ canal. absolutely. it seems amusing for a moment but _ canal. absolutely. it seems amusing for a moment but at _ canal. absolutely. it seems amusing for a moment but at the _ canal. absolutely. it seems amusing for a moment but at the moment, i canal. absolutely. it seems amusing for a moment but at the moment, it| for a moment but at the moment, it
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is really— for a moment but at the moment, it is really becoming more serious. i do believe — is really becoming more serious. i do believe that it is a problem, which _ do believe that it is a problem, which is — do believe that it is a problem, which is again going to take a few more _ which is again going to take a few more days— which is again going to take a few more days before it is resolved. 9 billion— more days before it is resolved. 9 billion dollars worth of goods passed — billion dollars worth of goods passed through the suez canal every day. passed through the suez canal every day that _ passed through the suez canal every day that is — passed through the suez canal every day. that is a huge proportion. countries — day. that is a huge proportion. countries are having to divert ships to around _ countries are having to divert ships to around the cape until this matter is sorted _ to around the cape until this matter is sorted out and it is, indeed, a problem — is sorted out and it is, indeed, a problem. this is accumulating countries _ problem. this is accumulating countries like india, for instance, ekport— countries like india, for instance, export to — countries like india, for instance, export to europe, north america, south _ export to europe, north america, south america via the suez canal and the other— south america via the suez canal and the other way round. the american continent _ the other way round. the american continent and the european continent supply— continent and the european continent supply goods notjust india but beyond — supply goods notjust india but beyond through the suez canal. so,
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that is— beyond through the suez canal. so, that is certainly a problem. it is a critical— that is certainly a problem. it is a critical state of affairs and it makes — critical state of affairs and it makes matters more expensive for the simple _ makes matters more expensive for the simple reason that the ships have to take a _ simple reason that the ships have to take a longer route and there will be delays — take a longer route and there will be delays in deliveries because of the fact— be delays in deliveries because of the fact that it's a longerjourney. so, everything put together, ithink it is a _ so, everything put together, ithink it is a bit— so, everything put together, ithink it is a bit of— so, everything put together, ithink it is a bit of a crisis at the moment— it is a bit of a crisis at the moment and it seems that the owners of the _ moment and it seems that the owners of the ships— moment and it seems that the owners of the ships have apologised and they are — of the ships have apologised and they are saying that they are trying their best — they are saying that they are trying their best but there is no immediate resolution — their best but there is no immediate resolution. it will take, possibly, a few— resolution. it will take, possibly, a few weeks to work it out. stefanie. _ a few weeks to work it out. stefanie, a lot of the history of europe's historical success, the rise of the great empires, was dependent on these routes. they would get goods from the empire into consuming europe. we always used to talk about the northwest passage at the beginning of the 19th and 20th century, they finally managed it.
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now, the ice is melting around the arctic and we see these countries jostling under the guise of scientific expedition for access for these new routes. it is still an important part of the way we connect. , , , , ., connect. yes, it is. the numbers are so interesting- _ connect. yes, it is. the numbers are so interesting. i— connect. yes, it is. the numbers are so interesting. i think _ connect. yes, it is. the numbers are so interesting. i think it _ connect. yes, it is. the numbers are so interesting. i think it was - so interesting. i think it was reported that every hour, the ship is stuck in the suez canal, it is like 300 million dollars of damage to the economy. it shows how dependent the world is and how dependent the world is and how dependent you are on some waterways and subsea passages but to be honest, ijust thought and subsea passages but to be honest, i just thought suddenly, somehow it reflects also what it means one things come to a halt and suddenly everything stops, like the lockdown that we are in now, and we are now exactly one year after that first lockdown started in europe and it made me think of what comes
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afterwards and how much reflection there has now been going on and also there has now been going on and also the question of what comes afterwards? is capitalism really working yet and there are so many fascinating books coming out about the future of capitalism, is gdp really the right measurement to measure our being and our presence and ourfuture, especially as measure our being and our presence and our future, especially as mac so, it actually made me think more about the philosophical, broader context that we are in and what it all means for us. share context that we are in and what it all means for us.— context that we are in and what it all means for us. are we all going to end op — all means for us. are we all going to end op like _ all means for us. are we all going to end up like the _ all means for us. are we all going to end up like the marie - all means for us. are we all going to end up like the marie celeste i to end up like the marie celeste floating in the middle and everybody wonders what ever happened to us. one thing which brought many people together during lockdown, virtually at least, were quizzes. so, let's end on a question... which long—running television quiz show was inspired by wartime interrogation, is introduced with a music track called �*approachine menace' and has just appointed its latest presenter? it's mastermind. you may know it even if you're not watching in the uk —
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there are versions in india, israel, kazakhstan, russia and turkey, as well as in other countries in english. the new host of mastermind — congratulations, clive. have you been practising your interrogation techniques in your mirror at home? i have. yes, it's something i'm looking — have. yes, it's something i'm looking forward _ have. yes, it's something i'm looking forward to _ have. yes, it's something i'm looking forward to and - have. yes, it's something i'm looking forward to and it's - looking forward to and it's interesting _ looking forward to and it's interesting that— looking forward to and it's interesting that the - looking forward to and it's i interesting that the franchise looking forward to and it's - interesting that the franchise has gone _ interesting that the franchise has gone all— interesting that the franchise has gone all over— interesting that the franchise has gone all over the _ interesting that the franchise has gone all over the world _ interesting that the franchise has gone all over the world and - interesting that the franchise hasj gone all over the world and there seems _ gone all over the world and there seems to— gone all over the world and there seems to be _ gone all over the world and there seems to be something - gone all over the world and there seems to be something about. gone all over the world and there - seems to be something about people wanting _ seems to be something about people wanting to _ seems to be something about people wanting to see — seems to be something about people wanting to see others _ seems to be something about people wanting to see others squirm, - wanting to see others squirm, potentially _ wanting to see others squirm, potentially. it's— wanting to see others squirm, potentially. it's been- wanting to see others squirm, potentially. it's been going. wanting to see others squirm, i potentially. it's been going since 1972~_ potentially. it's been going since 1972 as— potentially. it's been going since 1972 as you _ potentially. it's been going since 1972. as you say _ potentially. it's been going since 1972. as you say, bill— potentially. it's been going since 1972. as you say, bill writes, - potentially. it's been going sincej 1972. as you say, bill writes, the luy 1972. as you say, bill writes, the guy who — 1972. as you say, bill writes, the guy who produced _ 1972. as you say, bill writes, the guy who produced the _ 1972. as you say, bill writes, the guy who produced the whole - 1972. as you say, bill writes, the. guy who produced the whole thing when _ guy who produced the whole thing when it— guy who produced the whole thing when it started _ guy who produced the whole thing when it started in _ guy who produced the whole thing when it started in the _ guy who produced the whole thing when it started in the 705, - guy who produced the whole thing when it started in the 705, he - guy who produced the whole thing when it started in the 705, he was guy who produced the whole thing i when it started in the 705, he was a prisoner— when it started in the 705, he was a prisoner of— when it started in the 705, he was a prisoner of war. _ when it started in the 705, he was a prisoner of war, 5hot _ when it started in the 705, he was a prisoner of war, shot down - when it started in the 705, he was a prisoner of war, shot down over- prisoner of war, shot down over germany— prisoner of war, shot down over germany and _
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prisoner of war, shot down over germanyand he _ prisoner of war, shot down over germany and he was _ prisoner of war, shot down over. germany and he was interrogated prisoner of war, shot down over- germany and he was interrogated and he was _ germany and he was interrogated and he was asked. — germany and he was interrogated and he was asked, your— germany and he was interrogated and he was asked, your name, _ germany and he was interrogated and he was asked, your name, your- germany and he was interrogated and he was asked, your name, your rank. he was asked, your name, your rank and your— he was asked, your name, your rank and your number— he was asked, your name, your rank and your number and _ he was asked, your name, your rank and your number and that _ he was asked, your name, your rank and your number and that is - he was asked, your name, your rank and your number and that is where i and your number and that is where the opening — and your number and that is where the opening lines— and your number and that is where the opening line5 come _ and your number and that is where the opening line5 come from - and your number and that is where the opening line5 come from for. the opening line5 come from for questioning _ the opening line5 come from for questioning it— the opening line5 come from for questioning. it is— the opening line5 come from for questioning. it is going - the opening line5 come from for questioning. it is going to- the opening line5 come from for questioning. it is going to be . the opening line5 come from for. questioning. it is going to be fun. i questioning. it is going to be fun. i raise _ questioning. it is going to be fun. i raise this — questioning. it is going to be fun. i raise this question, _ questioning. it is going to be fun. i raise this question, a5hi5. - questioning. it is going to be fun. i raise this question, a5hi5. theyl i raise this question, ashis. they do a seller celebrity that they do a celebrity version. what would be your specialised subject? weill. celebrity version. what would be your specialised subject? your specialised sub'ect? well, my wife think it _ your specialised sub'ect? well, my wife think it should — your specialised subject? well, my wife think it should be _ your specialised subject? well, my wife think it should be indian - wife think it should be indian cricket — wife think it should be indian cricket and i agree. stefanie, what would be yours? _ cricket and i agree. stefanie, what would be yours? european - cricket and i agree. stefanie, what| would be yours? european football matches between _ would be yours? european football matches between manchester- would be yours? european football matches between manchester city| would be yours? european football. matches between manchester city in 1978 and i979. matches between manchester city in 1978 and 1979-— 1978 and 1979. clive, you are safe and never — 1978 and 1979. clive, you are safe and never having _ 1978 and 1979. clive, you are safe and never having to _ 1978 and 1979. clive, you are safe and never having to answer - 1978 and 1979. clive, you are safe and never having to answer these j and never having to answer these questions. and never having to answer these cuestions. ., ., , and never having to answer these cuestions. ., ,, , , ,
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and never having to answer these questions._ what | questions. thankfully, yes. what would it have _ questions. thankfully, yes. what would it have been _ questions. thankfully, yes. what would it have been if _ questions. thankfully, yes. what would it have been if you - questions. thankfully, yes. what would it have been if you had - questions. thankfully, yes. what i would it have been if you had been questions. thankfully, yes. what. would it have been if you had been a guest facing clive?— guest facing clive? vaccine supply chains. no question _ guest facing clive? vaccine supply chains. no question about - guest facing clive? vaccine supply chains. no question about it. - guest facing clive? vaccine supply chains. no question about it. i- guest facing clive? vaccine supply chains. no question about it. i amj chain5. no question about it. i am an expert — chain5. no question about it. i am an expert. aren't— chain5. no question about it. i am an expert. aren't we _ chain5. no question about it. i am an expert. aren't we all? - chains. no question about it. i am an expert. aren't we all?- an expert. aren't we all? many congratulations. _ an expert. aren't we all? many congratulations. he _ an expert. aren't we all? many congratulations. he did - an expert. aren't we all? many congratulations. he did not - an expert. aren't we all? many l congratulations. he did not know that was coming and he has taken it on the chin, god bless you sir! thank you to all of us. that's it for dateline london for this week. we're back next week at the same time. goodbye. hello there. there is some warmer weather on the way for a while next week but the weekend started really quite chilly out there with some sunshine, but this is what's coming our way. the cloud and rain streaming
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in from the atlantic replacing those earlier wintry showers that we had first thing this morning. so whilst there's still some sunshine around its going be slowly fading, the cloud increases from the west, we see a few more showers coming into the south—west of england and wales. a bit of patchy rain for northern ireland and into western parts of scotland with the hazy sunshine lasting for longer across the eastern side of the uk. after that cold start, temperatures are no great shakes this afternoon and just making double figures for many parts of the country. as it turns more cloudy the winds pick up as well and it's going to be windy overnight, rain pushing down across many areas. not much towards the south and south—east of england and the rain will turn more showery, i think, in scotland. but because it's windy overnight, because there's more cloud around it will be much, much milder tonight than it was last night. but we start with cloud, we've got some rain around on sunday, it'll be a windy start as well. that rain moves away from much of wales, the midlands, continues to affect the far north of england, northern ireland and the rain pushes northwards into scotland. it does become drier across most of england and wales,
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still quite cloudy, a bit of sunshine from time to time but it is going to be a windy day everywhere, some strong to gale force gusts. but the winds from the south—west so those temperatures are going to be rising. still a few degrees higher than today, actually, so peaking at around 16 or so across some eastern part of england. but that rain is setting in in the north and the north west of scotland in particular on that weather front there, a lot of rain for the beginning of the new week. away from here though, it does become drier as we're closer to an area of high pressure. still quite breezy, i think, for a while on monday, the winds do gradually ease down. the thicker cloud across the north bringing rain into scotland, some heavy rain in the north—west of scotland. for england and wales in particular, though, it will become sunnier through the day and warmer as well. even for northern ireland, the north east of scotland, temperatures will be rising but we're looking at 20 or 21 through lincolnshire, cambridgeshire and towards east anglia in general. those temperatures continue to rise on tuesday, 23, possibly 24 degrees as the winds become lighter but the heat doesn't last.
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northerly winds mean it will be cooler by the time we get to the easter weekend. goodbye.
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