tv Brexit with Ros Atkins BBC News May 3, 2021 6:45pm-7:01pm BST
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we should be fishermen and women. we should be the guardians — fishermen and women. we should be the guardians of _ fishermen and women. we should be the guardians of our _ fishermen and women. we should be the guardians of our own _ fishermen and women. we should be the guardians of our own seas, - fishermen and women. we should be the guardians of our own seas, not . the guardians of our own seas, not ministers we don't know, we haven't voted in, making decisions for us. borisjohnson argued more prosperity would come with more control. you have not would come with more control. you have got the _ would come with more control. you have got the eu _ would come with more control. gm have got the eu commission sitting instead of us deciding how fish stocks of uk fish will be parcelled up stocks of uk fish will be parcelled up and divvied up so you take back control. but up and diwied up so you take back control. �* �* ., , up and diwied up so you take back control. �* 1, _ ., ., control. but did boris johnson and his government _ control. but did boris johnson and his government take _ control. but did boris johnson and his government take back - control. but did boris johnson and| his government take back control? the brexit trade deal reduces the value of fish that eu boats can catch in uk waters by 25% across five years, and it's estimated that by 2026 uk boats will have access to an extra £145 million worth of fish every year. that is a shift but definitely not taking back control immediately, and what happens beyond 2026 isn't settled. because of this, not everyone is happy. this is one
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fishermen before the deal. it doesn't strike me as being particularly fair. but doesn't strike me as being particularly fair. doesn't strike me as being articularl fair. �* �* �* particularly fair. but brexit hasn't chanced particularly fair. but brexit hasn't changed the _ particularly fair. but brexit hasn't changed the equation _ particularly fair. but brexit hasn't changed the equation on - particularly fair. but brexit hasn't changed the equation on cod. - particularly fair. but brexit hasn't i changed the equation on cod. then there is the promise of keeping eu fishing boats out. this is the minister before the deal. access to territorial seas _ minister before the deal. access to territorial seas are _ minister before the deal. access to territorial seas are out _ minister before the deal. access to territorial seas are out of _ minister before the deal. access to territorial seas are out of scope - territorial seas are out of scope for any fisheries framework agreement with the eu. it for any fisheries framework agreement with the eu. it wasn't out of sco e, agreement with the eu. it wasn't out of scene. the — agreement with the eu. it wasn't out of scene. the uk _ agreement with the eu. it wasn't out of scope, the uk signed _ agreement with the eu. it wasn't out of scope, the uk signed a _ agreement with the eu. it wasn't out of scope, the uk signed a deal - agreement with the eu. it wasn't out of scope, the uk signed a deal that l of scope, the uk signed a deal that allowed some eu boats to fish those waters. fishing news reported this under the headline boris brexit betrayal, arguing a one—off chance to right wrongs has been squandered. boris johnson's defence to right wrongs has been squandered. borisjohnson�*s defence was to look to the long term. ba; boris johnson's defence was to look to the long term.— to the long term. by 2026, the fishina to the long term. by 2026, the fishing peeple _ to the long term. by 2026, the fishing people of _ to the long term. by 2026, the fishing people of this _ to the long term. by 2026, the fishing people of this country i to the long term. by 2026, the l fishing people of this country will have access to all the fish in all the territorial waters of this country. the territorial waters of this count . , , , ~ ,
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the territorial waters of this count . , , , ~' , ., country. this is highly unlikely to ha en country. this is highly unlikely to happen because _ country. this is highly unlikely to happen because the _ country. this is highly unlikely to happen because the eu - country. this is highly unlikely to} happen because the eu response country. this is highly unlikely to - happen because the eu response would make the move costly and some supporters of brexit have already seen enough. we supporters of brexit have already seen enough-— seen enough. we were very disappointed _ seen enough. we were very disappointed with _ seen enough. we were very disappointed with the - seen enough. we were very. disappointed with the overall seen enough. we were very - disappointed with the overall shape of the deal on fisheries. we want to be able to take advantage of being an independent state fully and not essentially one where we feel we have our hands tied behind our backs. . ., , backs. the challenge here is connected — backs. the challenge here is connected to _ backs. the challenge here is connected to where - backs. the challenge here is connected to where the - backs. the challenge here is connected to where the uk i backs. the challenge here is - connected to where the uk sells its fish which is neatly summarised by this fish merchant.— this fish merchant. knife is -- 9596 of what we — this fish merchant. knife is -- 9596 of what we buy _ this fish merchant. knife is -- 9596 of what we buy is _ this fish merchant. knife is -- 9596 of what we buy is exported - this fish merchant. knife is -- 9596 of what we buy is exported to - this fish merchant. knife is -- 9596 of what we buy is exported to the l this fish merchant. knife is -- 9596 l of what we buy is exported to the eu so it is our market. without it, we would have no business. this issue is about the _ would have no business. this issue is about the eu _ would have no business. this issue is about the eu access _ would have no business. this issue is about the eu access to _ would have no business. this issue is about the eu access to uk - would have no business. this issue| is about the eu access to uk waters and the uk access to eu markets. these two factors are being constantly balanced. brexit hasn't changed that. borisjohnson is saying after 2026... changed that. boris johnson is saying after 2026. . ._ changed that. boris johnson is saying after 2026. .. there is no theoretical— saying after 2026. .. there is no theoretical limit _ saying after 2026. .. there is no
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theoretical limit on _ saying after 2026. .. there is no theoretical limit on the - saying after 2026. .. there is no theoretical limit on the quantity saying after 2026. .. there is no i theoretical limit on the quantity of our fish we can fish in theoretical limit on the quantity of ourfish we can fish in our own waters. our fish we can fish in our own waters. , ., ., u, waters. there is no theoretical limit but a _ waters. there is no theoretical limit but a clear— waters. there is no theoretical limit but a clear practical- waters. there is no theoretical limit but a clear practical one. | waters. there is no theoretical l limit but a clear practical one. in reality the uk government in 2026 will not block all eu access to uk waters because the price paid in lost export markets would be too high. it's a compromise, one that has brought some changes but so far for uk fishing brexit is far from the transformational moment it was sold as. borisjohnson made this promise on brexit and northern ireland. we boris johnson made this promise on brexit and northern ireland. we will resect the brexit and northern ireland. we will respect the peace _ brexit and northern ireland. we will respect the peace process _ brexit and northern ireland. we will respect the peace process and - brexit and northern ireland. we will respect the peace process and the l respect the peace process and the good friday agreement. but northern ireland's violent _ good friday agreement. but northern ireland's violent past _ good friday agreement. but northern ireland's violent past remains - good friday agreement. but northern ireland's violent past remains clear. ireland's violent past remains clear in the memory, and this month we have seen reminders of that violence, the most serious for years. but where if at all does
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brexit fit into this? to answer that we need to understand what was promised and what has happened. from the start, there was one thing on which the eu and the uk agreed. we will which the eu and the uk agreed. , will under no circumstances have checks at or near the border in northern ireland. but checks at or near the border in northern ireland.— northern ireland. but that commitment _ northern ireland. but that commitment didn't - northern ireland. but that commitment didn't solve l northern ireland. but that i commitment didn't solve this problem. commitment didn't solve this roblem. ~ ., commitment didn't solve this roblem. ~ . . , ., , commitment didn't solve this roblem. . . , ., problem. we leave the customs union and sinale problem. we leave the customs union and single market, _ problem. we leave the customs union and single market, there _ problem. we leave the customs union and single market, there has - problem. we leave the customs union and single market, there has to - problem. we leave the customs union and single market, there has to be i problem. we leave the customs union and single market, there has to be a l and single market, there has to be a horden _ and single market, there has to be a horden lt— and single market, there has to be a horden it can — and single market, there has to be a border. it can be on the island of island _ border. it can be on the island of island or— border. it can be on the island of island or in— border. it can be on the island of island or in the sea but you cannot magic— island or in the sea but you cannot magic away— island or in the sea but you cannot magic away the need for a border. could _ magic away the need for a border. could brexit involve checks in the irish sea between northern ireland and the rest of the uk? in 2018 borisjohnson ruled this out, while attacking the then prime minister theresa may's brexit plan. we will be damaging _ theresa may's brexit plan. we will be damaging the _ theresa may's brexit plan. we will be damaging the fabric _ theresa may's brexit plan. we will be damaging the fabric of - theresa may's brexit plan. we will be damaging the fabric of the - theresa may's brexit plan. we will| be damaging the fabric of the union with checks and customs controls between great britain and northern
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ireland. no british conservative government could or should sign up to any such arrangement. but government could or should sign up to any such arrangement.— government could or should sign up to any such arrangement. but that is what brexit has _ to any such arrangement. but that is what brexit has delivered. _ to any such arrangement. but that is what brexit has delivered. in - to any such arrangement. but that is what brexit has delivered. in 2020 l what brexit has delivered. in 2020 there was this meeting between boris johnson and ireland's prime minister. borisjohnson said there would be no border over the irish sea, but if that is what was said this is what has happened. the brexit trade deal comes with a northern ireland protocol which stipulates northern ireland in effect stays in the eu single market for goods and so certain goods moving to northern ireland from the rest of the uk are subject to checks, which we were told wouldn't happen. that has brought pressure on the peace settlement. the good friday agreement was signed in the 90s, friday agreement was signed in the 905, it friday agreement was signed in the 90s, it ended violence between nationalists who want northern ireland to join the republic of ireland to join the republic of ireland and loyalists who want it to stay in the uk. as part of this the irish border is completely open with no checks. the eu and the uk agreed
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any land no checks. the eu and the uk agreed any [and border checks risk to republican anger. but there was no equivalent calculation for loyalists and checks in the irish sea, and anger has followed. the and checks in the irish sea, and anger has followed. the protocol has made us feel — anger has followed. the protocol has made us feel like _ anger has followed. the protocol has made us feel like foreigners - anger has followed. the protocol has made us feel like foreigners in - anger has followed. the protocol has made us feel like foreigners in our. made us feel like foreigners in our own country. tea and sympathy will not cut the mustard. we own country. tea and sympathy will not cut the mustard.— not cut the mustard. we have also seen violence _ not cut the mustard. we have also seen violence in _ not cut the mustard. we have also seen violence in loyalist _ not cut the mustard. we have also seen violence in loyalist areas, - seen violence in loyalist areas, this was belfast in april. this was connected to upset over the handling of a large republican funeral last year which is connected to a broader perception that loyalists are not being treated fairly. borisjohnson expressed concern and has called the checks in the irish sea unnecessary, describing what is happening this way. we describing what is happening this wa . ~ . describing what is happening this wa. . , way. we are getting the barnacles off the thing. _ way. we are getting the barnacles off the thing, and _ way. we are getting the barnacles off the thing, and stand _ way. we are getting the barnacles off the thing, and stand paperingl way. we are getting the barnacles| off the thing, and stand papering it into shape. he off the thing, and stand papering it into sha e. , off the thing, and stand papering it into shae. , ., off the thing, and stand papering it into shae. , . ., into shape. he is arguing to sandpaper _ into shape. he is arguing to sandpaper into _ into shape. he is arguing to sandpaper into shape - into shape. he is arguing to sandpaper into shape the i into shape. he is arguing to - sandpaper into shape the cheques he agreed to. in fact the uk has delayed some of these checks and is
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accused by the eu of breaking international law, all of which highlights that to be outside of the eu and to avoid border checks remains a problem that is hard to sandpaper away. so not for the first time, belfast port is centre stage. this after all is the city that built the titanic, something its creators was unsinkable. in 2018, as borisjohnson creators was unsinkable. in 2018, as boris johnson warned creators was unsinkable. in 2018, as borisjohnson warned about getting the wrong type of brexit, he turned to that story. the the wrong type of brexit, he turned to that story-— to that story. the titanic springs to that story. the titanic springs to mind. to that story. the titanic springs to mind- and — to that story. the titanic springs to mind. and now— to that story. the titanic springs to mind. and now is— to that story. the titanic springs to mind. and now is the - to that story. the titanic springs to mind. and now is the time . to that story. the titanic springs to mind. and now is the time to | to mind. and now is the time to point out the iceberg ahead. molar point out the iceberg ahead. now boris johnson _ point out the iceberg ahead. now borisjohnson believes, with brexit here, the uk can sail on, with greater prosperity to come. but for some his titanic warning still stands. they see a brexit for northern ireland which isn't as promised, what is certain is that how brexit works for northern
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ireland is still being contested. next we turn to trade because it was at the heart of what brexiteers promised the uk. n at the heart of what brexiteers promised the uk.— at the heart of what brexiteers romised the uk. , , promised the uk. i genuinely believe our future will _ promised the uk. i genuinely believe our future will be _ promised the uk. i genuinely believe our future will be so _ promised the uk. i genuinely believe our future will be so much _ promised the uk. i genuinely believe our future will be so much brighter. our future will be so much brighter if we vote to leave and take back control of our trade. the if we vote to leave and take back control of our trade.— control of our trade. the vote to leave website _ control of our trade. the vote to leave website said... _ and if that was vote leave, their opponents had predictions too. the economic opponents had predictions too. tue: economic argument opponents had predictions too. tte: economic argument is opponents had predictions too. tt2 economic argument is beyond doubt. leaving the eu is a one—way ticket to a poorer britain. fist leaving the eu is a one-way ticket to a poorer britain.— leaving the eu is a one-way ticket to a poorer britain. at the time my colleaaue to a poorer britain. at the time my colleague alex _ to a poorer britain. at the time my colleague alex forsyth _ to a poorer britain. at the time my colleague alex forsyth outlined - colleague alex forsyth outlined other warnings.— colleague alex forsyth outlined other warnings. house prices will fall...
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and this government assessment predicted a vote to leave would push our economy into a recession. the uk voted out and brexit is now here, so what did happen? house prices didn't fall between 2016 and early 2020 when the pandemic started. unemployment figures didn't rise for the same period. on food prices the british retail consortium reports prices falling for now. and a recession didn't follow. however, look at this graph from the bank of england in 2018, its calculations found all brexit scenarios producing a small uk economy than if brexit hadn't happened. what about the new trade deals around the world? here is the international trade minister tweeting this month...
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so 68 deals done, but many of them are direct copies of the existing eu deal with those countries and deals with india and the us are a good way off. then there is the promise of trading freely with the eu. here is the european parliament ratifying the european parliament ratifying the new uk eu deal which allows tariff—free and quota free trade in goods. but there are new taxes to pay, in some cases additional vat, in some cases goods are not tariff—free and that is having an impact. th tariff-free and that is having an im act. ,., tariff-free and that is having an imact. , ., . , tariff-free and that is having an imact. . , �* impact. in some instances we can't aet it to impact. in some instances we can't get it to them _ impact. in some instances we can't get it to them at _ impact. in some instances we can't get it to them at all, _ impact. in some instances we can't get it to them at all, in _ impact. in some instances we can't get it to them at all, in other- get it to them at all, in other instances they get charged such a large amount of import duty they are not going to do that. here large amount of import duty they are not going to do that.— not going to do that. here are the fiaures. .. not going to do that. here are the figures... imports _ not going to do that. here are the figures... imports and _ not going to do that. here are the figures... imports and exports - not going to do that. here are the. figures... imports and exports fell, then recovered but not to where they were. one of the reasons for that is something vote leave said brexit would reduce, bureaucracy. the
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messaging _ would reduce, bureaucracy. tt2 messaging from government is very much we are helping. the answer from me is you are not helping at all. we know paperwork has increased, also hear know paperwork has increased, also bearin know paperwork has increased, also hear in mind the trade deal covers bear in mind the trade deal covers goods, not services, and the uk economy is dominated by services like banking and insurance. but the dealfor the like banking and insurance. but the deal for the city of london to access the eu still has to be done. so where does this leave us? the german commentator concludes... if you look at imf growth forecasts for the world's wealthiest countries, uk is third though bear in mind all gdp figures are dominated by the pandemic. certainly those of the more catastrophic brexit predictions have not come to pass. northough brexit predictions have not come to pass. nor though is there evidence of a brexit boost to trade, but some argue the uk will pay a cost. this
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think tank argues... this week, borisjohnson has talked of the trade deal as the final step in a long journey. it is undoubtedly a political landmark, but really this is just the start. evidence of that came this week. france is demanding uk fishing guarantees and threatening blocks on financial services. the trade deal may be done but the negotiating isn't, nor are the ramifications for trade that brexit will bring. hello. the wetter weather is pushing its way to the south—east of the uk, the
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wind is picking up in wales and the south of england, particularly gusty around the coast. this will head out into the north sea, the rain and moving through, with more showers and longer spells of rain. it won't be as cold as it was last night in scotland and northern england, it should be frost—free because the wind will keep blowing overnight. the winds do gradually ease. we will see some sunshine and showers, perhaps longer spells of rain moving down across northern ireland into northern england. it will feel chilly in the wind, even some sunshine in scotland with temperatures no better than 8 degrees. higher temperatures in southern parts of england and wales but it stays cold really threw the rest of the week. —— through the rest of the week. —— through the rest of the week.
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. the european commission recommends easing restrictions to allow more travellers this summer. but as a number of european countries begin to ease coronavirus lockdowns, there's a growing debate about how much travel should be allowed. us secretary of state antony blinken meets the british foreign secretary ahead of the g7 gathering in london. coronavirus, afghanistan and threats from russia and china were on the agenda there's nothing quite like being face—to—face — or sometimes mask—to—mask — and i'm particularly pleased we've had an opportunity to do that here today and this will extend on for the next few days. india's supreme court orders the government
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