it's 6pm. welcome if you'rejustjoining us. with me in london and kirsty wark in edinburgh. we are taking you through the evening right until 10pm because we have lots of results coming in from the scottish parliament, the wealth janet and local authorities in england. a500 council seats being elected, 1a3 local authorities. we have mayoral contest in cities and regions, and we have police and crime commissioners, honestly it is a bumper course of results for you. so stay with us, he will bring you right up to date. it was a really bad start to the day for labour, it has to be said, because they lost the hartlepool by—election, there was a stunning conservative win

there. it had been a safe labour seat since the 1960s, but not any more. it now a conservative majority, nearly 7000 votes winning there. labour leader circuits, saying it was bitterly disappointing.- saying it was bitterly disappointing. saying it was bitterly disauointina. ., disappointing. here at holyrood, we have had a steady _ disappointing. here at holyrood, we have had a steady stream _ disappointing. here at holyrood, we have had a steady stream of- disappointing. here at holyrood, we have had a steady stream of results| have had a steady stream of results and what is the most important election in scotland since devolution. the snp have so far gained the constituencies of ayr from the conservatives, nicola sturgeon�*s scottish national party is not having it all its own way. there is some evidence of tactical voting against her. it is certainly too early to say if she is going to get the overall majority she needs if she is going to claim a mandate for a second referendum on independence. we for a second referendum on independence.— for a second referendum on independence. for a second referendum on indeendence. ~ . ~' , . for a second referendum on indeendence. . ~' , . , independence. we are keeping an eye on all of the — independence. we are keeping an eye on all of the mayoral _ independence. we are keeping an eye on all of the mayoral contest - independence. we are keeping an eye on all of the mayoral contest around | on all of the mayoral contest around england where labour have won in liverpool, the conservatives have chalked up a huge majority in the tees valley. rita is with me to give an eye on the results including in

wales. the story in wales so far is of a significantly better performance for labour than in england. for example in gower where they held off a tory attack and increased their majority. 12 results increased their majority. 12 results in from wales out of a total of 60, many more still to come. the next few hours could _ many more still to come. the next few hours could be _ many more still to come. the next few hours could be decisive, - many more still to come. the next few hours could be decisive, not i few hours could be decisive, not onlyjust in scotland, sirjohn curtis is crunching all the numbers and we think we are edging ever closer to being able to say who has one, sojoin us for all of closer to being able to say who has one, so join us for all of the political twists and turns of election 2021.

you're joining you'rejoining us at you're joining us at the very first minute, because we are now about to have a rush of results from now till 10pm. we will not get this all, they will go into tomorrow lots of them, but we will have a good idea by ten p. kirsty, for you so far in scotland, which is such a pivotal election at this time with the future of the union being questioned, what has been so far for you the most notable set of results? which ones would you pick out those he was justjoining which ones would you pick out those he wasjustjoining us? i which ones would you pick out those he wasjust joining us?— he wasjust “oining us? i would certainl he wasjust joining us? i would certainly say — he wasjust joining us? i would certainly say that _ he wasjust joining us? i would certainly say that in _ he wasjust joining us? i would certainly say that in terms - he wasjust joining us? i would certainly say that in terms of. he wasjust joining us? i would i certainly say that in terms of the snp targets, obviously ayr is a critical one and also east lothian. these are two of the victory is needed because they are in the snp�*s top targets. as our political correspondent completely reminded us time and time again, it is not over until it is over because all of the impact of that and what the snp does in the constituencies is offset by what might happen in the list. what is quite clear is that nicola

sturgeon will go forward, she may not reach her 65, the magical number she would need to win outright, but she would need to win outright, but she will be in the winning camp because she will probably have the greens with her who will provide the overall majority that she needs and that she will say is a mandate to the call for a second independence referendum. the key thing in scotland at the moment is, yet again, an exciting story in scotland and the constitution which has re—dominated scottish politics for the last 20 odd years continues to dominate. that tussle between scotland and downing street is only going to get much more visceral as we have a conservative leader, a conservative prime minister who will push back at every turn on the legitimacy of granting a second independence referendum. that is what is so fascinating, because it comes down to an argument about what constitutes consent by the voters. if the voters do not consent to be

part of the uk and consent to having an independence referendum, can borisjohnson hold the uk together under the force of the law and nothing else? that is one of the most fascinating conundrums of stock that will unravel tonight, i think. interesting again, kirsty. lots to think about going forward. of course we are keeping close tabs on what is going on with the english local elections, and of course... what going on with the english local elections, and of course... what i was going — elections, and of course... what i was going to _ elections, and of course... what i was going to say _ elections, and of course... what i was going to say about _ elections, and of course... what i was going to say about that - elections, and of course... what i was going to say about that was l elections, and of course... what i i was going to say about that was we were talking about the red wall in the north, but then when you look at basildon and potentially what is happening in liverpool, labour is notjust happening in liverpool, labour is not just taking a happening in liverpool, labour is notjust taking a hit along the red wall, labour is taking a hit in other areas of england. indeed, and that is something _ other areas of england. indeed, and that is something i _ other areas of england. indeed, and that is something i wanted - other areas of england. indeed, and that is something i wanted to - other areas of england. indeed, and that is something i wanted to pick. that is something i wanted to pick up that is something i wanted to pick up with sirjohn curtis. i think thatjohn is with us. so let's say welcome tojohn once again. can i just do three sections with you? because i like setting you a bit of

a challenge. you normally rise to the challenge well. basically a summary of where we are with scotland, where we are with the english local authorities and so far, the summary of where we are with wales. let's go! in far, the summary of where we are with wales. let's go!— with wales. let's go! in scotland, we have so _ with wales. let's go! in scotland, we have so far _ with wales. let's go! in scotland, we have so far across _ with wales. let's go! in scotland, we have so far across all- with wales. let's go! in scotland, we have so far across all of - with wales. let's go! in scotland, we have so far across all of the i we have so far across all of the constituencies seen the narrowest of swings _ constituencies seen the narrowest of swings to _ constituencies seen the narrowest of swings to the snp of the order of 1% from the _ swings to the snp of the order of 1% from the conservatives and a marginal— from the conservatives and a marginal .5% from labour. if that were _ marginal .5% from labour. if that were to _ marginal .5% from labour. if that were to be — marginal .5% from labour. if that were to be replicated in each and every _ were to be replicated in each and every constituency would not be sufficient — every constituency would not be sufficient to get the snp to the 65 mark _ sufficient to get the snp to the 65 mark. however, it does not need to be much _ mark. however, it does not need to be much more than that before they might— be much more than that before they might get— be much more than that before they might get past the 65 mark, and we have already seen how the snp have managed _ have already seen how the snp have managed to pick up two of the crucial— managed to pick up two of the crucial nine constituencies, six of which _ crucial nine constituencies, six of which they— crucial nine constituencies, six of which they need to get to the 65 mark— which they need to get to the 65 mark during the course of the day. i think— mark during the course of the day. i think the _ mark during the course of the day. i think the snp are not doing as well as some _ think the snp are not doing as well as some of— think the snp are not doing as well as some of them were optimistic forecasting for before yesterday. but they— forecasting for before yesterday. but they are still in the game, and

we may— but they are still in the game, and we may well be waiting until the last vole — we may well be waiting until the last vote in the last constituency or the _ last vote in the last constituency or the last — last vote in the last constituency or the last region sometime tomorrow. before we know whether they will— tomorrow. before we know whether they will make it. in wales, the interesting thing about wales is that we — interesting thing about wales is that we thought the printable thing which _ that we thought the printable thing which would happen was that everybody struggles a bit, they don't _ everybody struggles a bit, they don't do — everybody struggles a bit, they don't do so well as it does in westminster. doesn't get much more than 35% _ westminster. doesn't get much more than 35% of— westminster. doesn't get much more than 35% of the vote. we thought the conservatives were going to profit from _ conservatives were going to profit from the — conservatives were going to profit from the collapse of the ukip vote in wales, — from the collapse of the ukip vote in wales, which was very substantial in wales, which was very substantial in 2016 _ in wales, which was very substantial in 2016. actually, labour have been able to— in 2016. actually, labour have been able to advance in 2016 numbers, they are _ able to advance in 2016 numbers, they are much holding their own. and they are much holding their own. and the conservatives have not actually been critically profiting from the collapse — been critically profiting from the collapse of the ukip vote in wales is not _ collapse of the ukip vote in wales is not as— collapse of the ukip vote in wales is not as a — collapse of the ukip vote in wales is not as a result, mark drakeford, i'm not— is not as a result, mark drakeford, i'm not sure — is not as a result, mark drakeford, i'm not sure he will get the 31 seat he would _ i'm not sure he will get the 31 seat he would really like, but maybe he is not _ he would really like, but maybe he is not going to be any much worse position— is not going to be any much worse position than the 29 that he got back— position than the 29 that he got back in— position than the 29 that he got back in 2016. that brings us to

england — back in 2016. that brings us to england stop we have so far said that the — england stop we have so far said that the incoming government in scotland — that the incoming government in scotland is doing pretty well, the incumbent government in wales are doing _ incumbent government in wales are doing pretty well, and the incumbent government in england is doing pretty— government in england is doing pretty well. of course we have the hartlepool by—election, but more broadly— hartlepool by—election, but more broadly we are looking at a set of results _ broadly we are looking at a set of results where certainly in one half other— results where certainly in one half other places that were last contested... other places that were last contested. . .— other places that were last contested. . . other places that were last contested... ., ., contested... there with me for one second, contested... there with me for one second. john- _ contested... there with me for one second, john. let's _ contested... there with me for one second, john. let's go _ contested... there with me for one second, john. let's go to _ contested... there with me for one second, john. let's go to blaenau i second, john. let's go to blaenau gwent. 2611. speaks - gwent. 2611. i speaks welsh mandy moore independent, 2376. speaks _ mandy moore independent, 2376. speaks welsh _ speaks welsh applied, either party of wales, 3588~ — 3588. -

applause speaks welsh a big slide for plaid cymru. abolished the welsh assembly party. speaks _ abolished the welsh assembly party. speaks welsh — speaks welsh welsh liberal democrats, 333. speaks — welsh liberal democrats, 333. speaks welsh _ speaks welsh therefore i give public notice that thomas _ therefore i give public notice that thomas allen _ therefore i give public notice that thomas allen rhys _ therefore i give public notice that thomas allen rhys davies - therefore i give public notice that thomas allen rhys davies is- therefore i give public notice that thomas allen rhys davies is a - therefore i give public notice that. thomas allen rhys davies is a duly electedm — thomas allen rhys davies is a duly electedm he — thomas allen rhys davies is a duly elected... , ., . .,, elected... he survived a close contest last — elected... he survived a close contest last time _ elected... he survived a close contest last time with - elected... he survived a close contest last time with plaid i elected... he survived a close l contest last time with plaid who elected... he survived a close - contest last time with plaid who run him very close, certainly this time he has a very solid majority of 6500 plus in blaenau gwent. that again is

a huge boost to welsh labour, they never thought they would lose the seat, let's be clear. blood can became very clear last time which surprised a lot of people. this what time plaid cymru are nowhere in sight. labour on 10,200. i time plaid cymru are nowhere in sight. labouron10,200. iwant time plaid cymru are nowhere in sight. labour on 10,200. i want to look at the show because you will see what i mean by the difference. a9% to labour, nearly half the vote, 17 to plaid cymru, 12 the conservatives and 11 independence. if you look at the side abolished the welsh assembly, they are on a 7% which is actually more than they have been getting elsewhere. let's look at blaenau gwent�*s change. the big difference here is plaid cymru's big difference here is plaid cymru's big performance to get close to the winning post last time that has just gone away this time in a 19% down. the conservatives up by six and

independence by 11. a big swing of 1a% from plaid cymru to labour. i would like to bring john curtis back. that actually is another interesting one because not only does itjust solidify interesting one because not only does it just solidify the welsh labour performance, although there are individual circumstances in blaenau gwent, timothy matt will be nursing their wounds there. edit nursing their wounds there. of course, blaenau gwent was one of a couple _ course, blaenau gwent was one of a couple of _ course, blaenau gwent was one of a couple of constituencies _ course, blaenau gwent was one of a couple of constituencies not - course, blaenau gwent was one of a couple of constituencies not welsh i couple of constituencies not welsh speaking _ couple of constituencies not welsh speaking territory _ couple of constituencies not welsh speaking territory where _ couple of constituencies not welsh speaking territory where plaid - couple of constituencies not welsh . speaking territory where plaid cymru are usually— speaking territory where plaid cymru are usually strongest _ speaking territory where plaid cymru are usually strongest when _ speaking territory where plaid cymru are usually strongest when they - speaking territory where plaid cymru are usually strongest when they did i are usually strongest when they did well in _ are usually strongest when they did well in 2016 — are usually strongest when they did well in 2016 i— are usually strongest when they did well in 2016. ithink— are usually strongest when they did well in 2016. i think that _ are usually strongest when they did well in 2016. i think that perhaps i well in 2016. i think that perhaps the implication _ well in 2016. i think that perhaps the implication we _ well in 2016. i think that perhaps the implication we might- well in 2016. i think that perhaps the implication we might want i well in 2016. i think that perhaps the implication we might want to draw— the implication we might want to draw from — the implication we might want to draw from this _ the implication we might want to draw from this is _ the implication we might want to draw from this is that _ the implication we might want to draw from this is that the - the implication we might want tol draw from this is that the chances of leanne — draw from this is that the chances of leanne wood _ draw from this is that the chances of leanne wood in _ draw from this is that the chances of leanne wood in rhondda - draw from this is that the chances of leanne wood in rhondda have i of leanne wood in rhondda have repeating — of leanne wood in rhondda have repeating her— of leanne wood in rhondda have repeating her remarkable - of leanne wood in rhondda havel repeating her remarkable success of leanne wood in rhondda have i repeating her remarkable success in winning _ repeating her remarkable success in winning that — repeating her remarkable success in winning that constituency _ repeating her remarkable success in winning that constituency in - repeating her remarkable success in winning that constituency in 2016 i repeating her remarkable success in winning that constituency in 2016 ifl winning that constituency in 2016 if blaenau _ winning that constituency in 2016 if blaenau gwent _ winning that constituency in 2016 if blaenau gwent is _ winning that constituency in 2016 if blaenau gwent is any _ winning that constituency in 2016 if blaenau gwent is any guide - winning that constituency in 2016 if blaenau gwent is any guide at - winning that constituency in 2016 if blaenau gwent is any guide at all. blaenau gwent is any guide at all the guiding — blaenau gwent is any guide at all the guiding devoting _ blaenau gwent is any guide at all the guiding devoting the -

the guiding devoting the temperament, - the guiding devoting the temperament, she - the guiding devoting the temperament, she will. the guiding devoting the - temperament, she will discover the guiding devoting the _ temperament, she will discover she has lost _ temperament, she will discover she has lost her — temperament, she will discover she has lost her seat. _ temperament, she will discover she has lost her seat. it _ temperament, she will discover she has lost her seat. it is— temperament, she will discover she has lost her seat. it is another- has lost her seat. it is another part— has lost her seat. it is another part of— has lost her seat. it is another part of a — has lost her seat. it is another part of a story— has lost her seat. it is another part of a story whereby, - has lost her seat. it is another part of a story whereby, as - has lost her seat. it is anotherl part of a story whereby, as you has lost her seat. it is another- part of a story whereby, as you can see, _ part of a story whereby, as you can see, the _ part of a story whereby, as you can see, the labour— part of a story whereby, as you can see, the labour party— part of a story whereby, as you can see, the labour party is _ part of a story whereby, as you can see, the labour party is holding. part of a story whereby, as you can see, the labour party is holding its own, _ see, the labour party is holding its own. feasibly— see, the labour party is holding its own, feasibly the _ see, the labour party is holding its own, feasibly the conservatives - see, the labour party is holding its i own, feasibly the conservatives have .ot own, feasibly the conservatives have got their— own, feasibly the conservatives have got their share — own, feasibly the conservatives have got their share of _ own, feasibly the conservatives have got their share of the _ own, feasibly the conservatives have got their share of the vote, - own, feasibly the conservatives have got their share of the vote, which - got their share of the vote, which is why— got their share of the vote, which is why we — got their share of the vote, which is why we are _ got their share of the vote, which is why we are saying _ got their share of the vote, which is why we are saying that - got their share of the vote, which is why we are saying that they. is why we are saying that they should — is why we are saying that they should he _ is why we are saying that they should be pretty— is why we are saying that they should be pretty much - is why we are saying that they should be pretty much where i is why we are saying that they. should be pretty much where they ended _ should be pretty much where they ended up— should be pretty much where they ended up in— should be pretty much where they ended up in 2016. _ should be pretty much where they ended up in 2016. i— should be pretty much where they ended up in 2016. i think- should be pretty much where they ended up in 2016. i think before . should be pretty much where they. ended up in 2016. i think before we were _ ended up in 2016. i think before we were interrupted _ ended up in 2016. i think before we were interrupted by— ended up in 2016. i think before we were interrupted by that _ ended up in 2016. i think before we were interrupted by that crucial- were interrupted by that crucial result _ were interrupted by that crucial result in — were interrupted by that crucial result in south _ were interrupted by that crucial result in south wales, - were interrupted by that crucial result in south wales, we - were interrupted by that crucial result in south wales, we were| result in south wales, we were talking — result in south wales, we were talking about _ result in south wales, we were talking about england - result in south wales, we were talking about england and - result in south wales, we were talking about england and i- result in south wales, we werel talking about england and i was explaining — talking about england and i was explaining or— talking about england and i was explaining or reminding - talking about england and i wasj explaining or reminding viewers talking about england and i was- explaining or reminding viewers that there _ explaining or reminding viewers that there were _ explaining or reminding viewers that there were two — explaining or reminding viewers that there were two parts _ explaining or reminding viewers that there were two parts to _ explaining or reminding viewers that there were two parts to the - explaining or reminding viewers that there were two parts to the english. there were two parts to the english local elections, _ there were two parts to the english local elections, one _ there were two parts to the english local elections, one part— there were two parts to the english local elections, one part was - there were two parts to the english local elections, one part was of- there were two parts to the english local elections, one part was of the seats— local elections, one part was of the seats which— local elections, one part was of the seats which were _ local elections, one part was of the seats which were last _ local elections, one part was of the seats which were last contested - local elections, one part was of the seats which were last contested inl seats which were last contested in 2016, _ seats which were last contested in 2016. the — seats which were last contested in 2016, the election _ seats which were last contested in 2016, the election is _ seats which were last contested in 2016, the election is being - 2016, the election is being postponed _ 2016, the election is being postponed from _ 2016, the election is being postponed from last - 2016, the election is being postponed from last year. | 2016, the election is being - postponed from last year. the other half the _ postponed from last year. the other half the elections _ postponed from last year. the other half the elections which _ postponed from last year. the other half the elections which were - postponed from last year. the other half the elections which were meantj half the elections which were meant to take _ half the elections which were meant to take place — half the elections which were meant to take place this _ half the elections which were meant to take place this year, _ half the elections which were meant to take place this year, mostly - to take place this year, mostly county — to take place this year, mostly county councils _ to take place this year, mostly county councils which - to take place this year, mostly county councils which were - to take place this year, mostly county councils which were aa | to take place this year, mostly - county councils which were aa years a lo. county councils which were aa years ago two _ county councils which were aa years ago~ two very— county councils which were aa years ago. two very different _ county councils which were aa years ago. two very different baselines, i ago. two very different baselines, 2016 conservative _ ago. two very different baselines, 2016 conservative and _ ago. two very different baselines, 2016 conservative and labour- ago. two very different baselines, l 2016 conservative and labour pretty close to _ 2016 conservative and labour pretty close to each — 2016 conservative and labour pretty close to each other, _ 2016 conservative and labour pretty close to each other, 2017 _ close to each other, 2017 conservatives _ close to each other, 2017 conservatives well - close to each other, 2017| conservatives well ahead. close to each other, 2017 _ conservatives well ahead. compared to 2016. _ conservatives well ahead. compared to 2016. there — conservatives well ahead. compared to 2016, there is— conservatives well ahead. compared to 2016, there is a _ conservatives well ahead. compared to 2016, there is a very _ conservatives well ahead. compared to 2016, there is a very clear- conservatives well ahead. compared to 2016, there is a very clear swing i to 2016, there is a very clear swing from _ to 2016, there is a very clear swing from labour— to 2016, there is a very clear swing from labour to— to 2016, there is a very clear swing from labour to the _ to 2016, there is a very clear swing from labour to the conservatives, i to 2016, there is a very clear swing i from labour to the conservatives, to the conservatives _ from labour to the conservatives, to the conservatives are _ from labour to the conservatives, to the conservatives are definitely - the conservatives are definitely ahead _ the conservatives are definitely ahead in— the conservatives are definitely ahead in the _ the conservatives are definitely ahead in the local— the conservatives are definitely

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there is overall not a great deal ofl moving from one side to the other. but the _ moving from one side to the other. but the other— moving from one side to the other. but the other crucial— moving from one side to the other. but the other crucial thing - moving from one side to the other. but the other crucial thing to - moving from one side to the other. but the other crucial thing to be . but the other crucial thing to be aware _ but the other crucial thing to be aware of— but the other crucial thing to be aware of is _ but the other crucial thing to be aware of is that _ but the other crucial thing to be aware of is that basically- aware of is that basically leave—voting _ aware of is that basically leave—voting england i aware of is that basically leave—voting england of| aware of is that basically- leave—voting england of which article — leave—voting england of which article is — leave—voting england of which article is an— leave—voting england of which article is an example - leave—voting england of which article is an example has - leave—voting england of which. article is an example has swung leave—voting england of which - article is an example has swung to the conservatives, _ article is an example has swung to the conservatives, where - article is an example has swung to the conservatives, where as - article is an example has swung to the conservatives, where as the l article is an example has swung to i the conservatives, where as the main voting _ the conservatives, where as the main voting england — the conservatives, where as the main voting england for— the conservatives, where as the main voting england for the _ the conservatives, where as the main voting england for the most - the conservatives, where as the main voting england for the most part- the conservatives, where as the main voting england for the most part hasl voting england for the most part has not stop— voting england for the most part has not stop at— voting england for the most part has not stop at this _ voting england for the most part has not stop at this two _ voting england for the most part has not stop at this two remain - voting england for the most part has not stop at this two remain voting. i not stop at this two remain voting. because _ not stop at this two remain voting. because in— not stop at this two remain voting. because in 2017 _ not stop at this two remain voting. because in 2017 and _ not stop at this two remain voting. because in 2017 and 2019 _ not stop at this two remain voting. because in 2017 and 2019 when - not stop at this two remain voting. because in 2017 and 2019 when the j because in 2017 and 2019 when the conservatives — because in 2017 and 2019 when the conservatives gained _ because in 2017 and 2019 when the conservatives gained a _ because in 2017 and 2019 when the conservatives gained a lot - because in 2017 and 2019 when the conservatives gained a lot of- because in 2017 and 2019 when the i conservatives gained a lot of ground amongst _ conservatives gained a lot of ground amongst leave — conservatives gained a lot of ground amongst leave voters, _ conservatives gained a lot of ground amongst leave voters, losing - conservatives gained a lot of ground | amongst leave voters, losing ground amongst _ amongst leave voters, losing ground amongst remaining _ amongst leave voters, losing ground amongst remaining voters, - amongst leave voters, losing ground amongst remaining voters, labour. amongst remaining voters, labour becoming — amongst remaining voters, labour becoming more _ amongst remaining voters, labour becoming more of— amongst remaining voters, labour becoming more of a _ amongst remaining voters, labour becoming more of a party. - amongst remaining voters, labour becoming more of a party. they. becoming more of a party. they changed — becoming more of a party. they changed clinicians— becoming more of a party. they changed clinicians supporting i becoming more of a party. theyl changed clinicians supporting our two pencil— changed clinicians supporting our two pencil parties _ changed clinicians supporting our two pencil parties evidenced - changed clinicians supporting our two pencil parties evidenced by i changed clinicians supporting our. two pencil parties evidenced by 2019 is being _ two pencil parties evidenced by 2019 is being played — two pencil parties evidenced by 2019 is being played up— two pencil parties evidenced by 2019 is being played up again _ two pencil parties evidenced by 2019 is being played up again in _ two pencil parties evidenced by 2019 is being played up again in these - is being played up again in these elections — is being played up again in these elections in _ is being played up again in these elections in the _ is being played up again in these elections in the sense _ is being played up again in these elections in the sense because . is being played up again in these - elections in the sense because these are now— elections in the sense because these are now catching _ elections in the sense because these are now catching up _ elections in the sense because these are now catching up with _ elections in the sense because these are now catching up with the - elections in the sense because thesel are now catching up with the changed coalitions _ are now catching up with the changed coalitions that — are now catching up with the changed coalitions that were _ are now catching up with the changed coalitions that were already— are now catching up with the changed coalitions that were already there -

coalitions that were already there 18 months— coalitions that were already there 18 months ago _ coalitions that were already there 18 months ago-— coalitions that were already there 18 months ago. thank you for now. before i let — 18 months ago. thank you for now. before i let you _ 18 months ago. thank you for now. before i let you go, _ 18 months ago. thank you for now. before i let you go, we _ 18 months ago. thank you for now. before i let you go, we have - 18 months ago. thank you for now. before i let you go, we have been l before i let you go, we have been telling viewers that there's lots of excitement still to come. from your point of view having gone through all of these seats and permutations in great detail, just give us your headlines — what are you looking for for the rest of the evening? what are the main signal that you are looking for?— are the main signal that you are looking for? almost inevitably as far as scotland _ looking for? almost inevitably as far as scotland is _ looking for? almost inevitably as far as scotland is concerned, - looking for? almost inevitably as far as scotland is concerned, we | looking for? almost inevitably as i far as scotland is concerned, we are now literally — far as scotland is concerned, we are now literally looking at the results of individual constituencies because this is— of individual constituencies because this is long — of individual constituencies because this is long seems to be the case that in— this is long seems to be the case that in the — this is long seems to be the case that in the end of the outcome of the election in scotland whether the snp get _ the election in scotland whether the snp get an overall majority probably didn't— snp get an overall majority probably didn't rest— snp get an overall majority probably didn't rest on the overall share of the vote — didn't rest on the overall share of the vote across the country as a whole — the vote across the country as a whole but _ the vote across the country as a whole. but what happened in a small number— whole. but what happened in a small number of— whole. but what happened in a small number of constituencies. the nine possible _ number of constituencies. the nine possible targets the snp could get, there are _ possible targets the snp could get, there are two more of them to be counted _ there are two more of them to be counted this evening. edinburgh centrai— counted this evening. edinburgh central and dumbarton. counted this evening. edinburgh centraland dumbarton. edinburgh central and dumbarton. edinburgh centrai— central and dumbarton. edinburgh central the centraland dumbarton. edinburgh central the snp are very confident, dumbarton perhaps an awful lot closer~ — dumbarton perhaps an awful lot closer~ in — dumbarton perhaps an awful lot closer. in scotland it is literally those _ closer. in scotland it is literally those two _ closer. in scotland it is literally

those two seats. in wales, i think we are _ those two seats. in wales, i think we are looking to see whether or not labour— we are looking to see whether or not labour continue to make relative progress — labour continue to make relative progress. but we know little yet of the vote _ progress. but we know little yet of the vote in — progress. but we know little yet of the vote in wales and virtually nothing — the vote in wales and virtually nothing about it in scotland, and that is— nothing about it in scotland, and that is a — nothing about it in scotland, and that is a big gap in our knowledge. in england — that is a big gap in our knowledge. in england what we are looking for is that— in england what we are looking for is that some of the wards will be have _ is that some of the wards will be have been— is that some of the wards will be have been collecting the results were _ have been collecting the results were particularly interested to get data from — were particularly interested to get data from the south—east of england. because _ data from the south—east of england. because it _ data from the south—east of england. because it does look that whereas the conservatives are doing well in the conservatives are doing well in the very— the conservatives are doing well in the very leave voting areas, the south-east— the very leave voting areas, the south—east of england which is much less tending towards leave is proving — less tending towards leave is proving to be more difficult for conservatives. so far as us telling you so— conservatives. so far as us telling you so far— conservatives. so far as us telling you so far this evening what we think— you so far this evening what we think the — you so far this evening what we think the so—called projected national— think the so—called projected national share is, telling the english _ national share is, telling the english local election results into a pseudo- — english local election results into a pseudo— general election outcome, we need _ a pseudo— general election outcome, we need a _ a pseudo— general election outcome, we need a bit more information as to exactly— we need a bit more information as to exactly how— we need a bit more information as to exactly how things are doing in the south _ exactly how things are doing in the south east — exactly how things are doing in the south east before we can unveil that the default and hopefully that will be another piece of excitement to keep— be another piece of excitement to keep everybody going.

some great pointers, as ever, john. and now i am going to talk to nick eardley, because we are somehow talking about the constituencies is been a really big deal and delist being the add—on, but to be quite clear we're talking about 129 seats in the scottish parliament come of which 73 cover constituencies and 56 come from the lists, so gillis are currently important. nick, you've got intel from a couple of seats. yeah, sojohn mentioned the two pcs we are _ yeah, sojohn mentioned the two pcs we are watching, edinburgh central and dumbarton, very crucial to the snp, _ and dumbarton, very crucial to the snp, but _ and dumbarton, very crucial to the snp, but a — and dumbarton, very crucial to the snp, but a few more to mention, one is murray, _ snp, but a few more to mention, one is murray, the — snp, but a few more to mention, one is murray, the seed that douglas ross _ is murray, the seed that douglas ross holds couple estimates are's s&p seat — ross holds couple estimates are's s&p seat at the moment held. the snp are slightly— s&p seat at the moment held. the snp are slightly nervous about that. remember, there's that big swing

towards _ remember, there's that big swing towards the tories in the northeast already— towards the tories in the northeast already in— towards the tories in the northeast already in a couple seats, so worth watching, — already in a couple seats, so worth watching, but on the other side of the scale. — watching, but on the other side of the scale, the other side of the country. — the scale, the other side of the country, dumfriesshire, there is some _ country, dumfriesshire, there is some optimism from the snp camp of what is _ some optimism from the snp camp of what is going on there.— what is going on there. remind me the tory majority- _ what is going on there. remind me the tory majority. the _ what is going on there. remind me the tory majority. the tory - what is going on there. remind me| the tory majority. the tory majority the tory ma'ority. the tory ma'ority at the the tory majority. the tory ma'ority at the moment in i the tory majority. the tory majority at the moment in dumfriesshire - the tory majority. the tory majority at the moment in dumfriesshire is i at the moment in dumfriesshire is pretty— at the moment in dumfriesshire is pretty healthy, let me describe it here _ pretty healthy, let me describe it here it _ pretty healthy, let me describe it here it is — pretty healthy, let me describe it here. it is 1200... it is pretty healthy, let me describe it here. it is 1200...— here. it is 1200... it is seven on the snp target _ here. it is 1200... it is seven on the snp target list. _ here. it is 1200... it is seven on the snp target list. the - here. it is 1200... it is seven on the snp target list. the south i here. it is 1200... it is seven on| the snp target list. the south of scotland, the — the snp target list. the south of scotland, the conservatives - the snp target list. the south of| scotland, the conservatives have done _ scotland, the conservatives have done pretty well in general elections, so it is surprising to hear— elections, so it is surprising to hear that— elections, so it is surprising to hear that is— elections, so it is surprising to hear that is considered in the mix. finally, _ hear that is considered in the mix. finally, we — hear that is considered in the mix. finally, we have eastwood, a curious seatr _ finally, we have eastwood, a curious seat. it— finally, we have eastwood, a curious seat. it was— finally, we have eastwood, a curious seat. it was a — finally, we have eastwood, a curious seat, it was a three—way marginal over— seat, it was a three—way marginal over the _ seat, it was a three—way marginal over the years. he was labour for a while, _ over the years. he was labour for a while, they— over the years. he was labour for a while, they lusted last time in part it is believed because the enticement is

—— anti—semitism row. tories are a bit nervous — —— anti—semitism row. tories are a bit nervous their scapula interesting. let me take you back to murray, _ interesting. let me take you back to murray, because it will be... douglas ross will be in a position anyway— douglas ross will be in a position anyway because douglas ross will be in a position anyway becaus— douglas ross will be in a position anyway because heat is on a list, so he is going — anyway because heat is on a list, so he is going beat _ anyway because heat is on a list, so he is going beat both _ anyway because heat is on a list, so he is going beat both places. - anyway because heat is on a list, so he is going beat both places. the i he is going beat both places. the job in westminster and also a job in edinburgh, and a lot of people frown on that, alex salmond and others do as well, but a lot of people frown on that sample yes, they do, and i suspect he will come under pressure over the next couple months. because argument conservatives would make is if he is the man try to connect uk government and the scottish parliament, it is good to be in both, — parliament, it is good to be in both, but. _ parliament, it is good to be in both, but, yeah, thejob is been parliament, it is good to be in both, but, yeah, the job is been a bit controversial. both, but, yeah, the “0b is been a bit controversial.— bit controversial. nick, for now, thank you _ bit controversial. nick, for now, thank you very _ bit controversial. nick, for now, thank you very much. _ bit controversial. nick, for now, thank you very much. we - bit controversial. nick, for now, thank you very much. we are i bit controversial. nick, for now, i thank you very much. we are joined now by the reform uk party leader. compared with what you might have

thought you would achieve at the stage come or are you? obviously, it is not easy — stage come or are you? obviously, it is not easy building _ stage come or are you? obviously, it is not easy building a _ stage come or are you? obviously, it is not easy building a new— stage come or are you? obviously, it is not easy building a new political. is not easy building a new political brand _ is not easy building a new political brand at— is not easy building a new political brand at the — is not easy building a new political brand at the backend _ is not easy building a new political brand at the backend of— is not easy building a new political brand at the backend of a - is not easy building a new political. brand at the backend of a pandemic, when _ brand at the backend of a pandemic, when people — brand at the backend of a pandemic, when people been— brand at the backend of a pandemic, when people been locked _ brand at the backend of a pandemic, when people been locked down, - brand at the backend of a pandemic, when people been locked down, andj when people been locked down, and we've _ when people been locked down, and we've learned — when people been locked down, and we've learned some _ when people been locked down, and we've learned some lessons, - when people been locked down, and we've learned some lessons, we - when people been locked down, and i we've learned some lessons, we would like to _ we've learned some lessons, we would like to have _ we've learned some lessons, we would like to have done — we've learned some lessons, we would like to have done a _ we've learned some lessons, we would like to have done a bit _ we've learned some lessons, we would like to have done a bit better, - we've learned some lessons, we would like to have done a bit better, but- like to have done a bit better, but rome _ like to have done a bit better, but rome is— like to have done a bit better, but rome is not— like to have done a bit better, but rome is not filled _ like to have done a bit better, but rome is not filled in— like to have done a bit better, but rome is not filled in today. - like to have done a bit better, but rome is not filled in today. this . rome is not filled in today. this has been — rome is not filled in today. this has been a _ rome is not filled in today. this has been a beginning _ rome is not filled in today. this has been a beginning of- rome is not filled in today. this has been a beginning of a - rome is not filled in today. this i has been a beginning of a journey for us _ has been a beginning of a “ourney for us. , �* ., for us. isn't the momentum running awa from for us. isn't the momentum running away from you? _ for us. isn't the momentum running away from you? excuse _ for us. isn't the momentum running away from you? excuse me, - for us. isn't the momentum running away from you? excuse me, i i for us. isn't the momentum running away from you? excuse me, i afraidj away from you? excuse me, i afraid we are going up to figure two and borough west, which is about to declare. —— having to go to edinburgh west. j. declare. -- having to go to edinburgh west.— declare. -- having to go to edinburgh west. i, andrew kern donica kerr. _ edinburgh west. i, andrew kern donica kerr, declare _ edinburgh west. i, andrew kern donica kerr, declare that i edinburgh west. i, andrew kern donica kerr, declare that the i edinburgh west. i, andrew kern| donica kerr, declare that the toll number— donica kerr, declare that the toll number of— donica kerr, declare that the toll number of votes given to each candidate _ number of votes given to each candidate was as follows. —— andrew kerr~ _ candidate was as follows. —— andrew kerr~ alex _ candidate was as follows. —— andrew kerr. alex hamilton, scottish liberal— kerr. alex hamilton, scottish liberal democrats,

25,578. daniel fraser, scottish libertarian party, 201. scottish labour— libertarian party, 201. scottish labour party, 2550. scottish national— labour party, 2550. scottish national party, 15,693. scottish conservative and unionist party, 2798~ _ conservative and unionist party, 2798. therefore i give public notice that alex— 2798. therefore i give public notice that alex cole hamilton is duly elected — that alex cole hamilton is duly elected as a member for the scottish parliament— elected as a member for the scottish parliament for the edinburgh west constituency. parliament for the edinburgh west constituency-— parliament for the edinburgh west constituen . ., ., constituency. there we have got the result in edinburgh _ constituency. there we have got the result in edinburgh west, _ constituency. there we have got the result in edinburgh west, and i constituency. there we have got the | result in edinburgh west, and indeed it is a victory, not unexpected, for the little democrat alex cole hamilton. we look at the charity vote, he liberal democrats, 5a%, snp

3a, conservative six and labour five, and we see the liberal democrats action on the roads there, another sign of tactical voting, going to the party you think can most represent in that area, the unionist boat, so the snp, the liberal democrats wing, is done after we go back to the chairman —— we go back to the reform uk party. you talk about rome not being built in a day, but you are like the lost city of the lantus, you have nowhere to go. there's for you.— to go. there's for you. complete nonsense- _ to go. there's for you. complete nonsense. we _ to go. there's for you. complete nonsense. we are _ to go. there's for you. complete nonsense. we are building i to go. there's for you. complete nonsense. we are building a i to go. there's for you. complete | nonsense. we are building a new political— nonsense. we are building a new political brand, _ nonsense. we are building a new political brand, huge _ nonsense. we are building a new political brand, huge relay- nonsense. we are building a newj political brand, huge relay meant today— political brand, huge relay meant today going — political brand, huge relay meant today going on _ political brand, huge relay meant today going on for _ political brand, huge relay meant today going on for study - today going on for study conservatives _ today going on for study conservatives have i today going on for study . conservatives have moved today going on for study i conservatives have moved to today going on for study - conservatives have moved to the today going on for study _ conservatives have moved to the left of centre. _ conservatives have moved to the left of centre. taking _ conservatives have moved to the left of centre, taking the _ conservatives have moved to the left of centre, taking the labour- conservatives have moved to the left of centre, taking the labour ground i of centre, taking the labour ground very successfully, _ of centre, taking the labour ground very successfully, but _ of centre, taking the labour ground very successfully, but as _ of centre, taking the labour ground very successfully, but as we - of centre, taking the labour ground very successfully, but as we come i very successfully, but as we come out of _ very successfully, but as we come out of the — very successfully, but as we come out of the pandemic, _ very successfully, but as we come out of the pandemic, as _ very successfully, but as we come out of the pandemic, as look- very successfully, but as we come i out of the pandemic, as look forward to trying _ out of the pandemic, as look forward to trying to _ out of the pandemic, as look forward to trying to recover _ out of the pandemic, as look forward to trying to recover from _ out of the pandemic, as look forward to trying to recover from this, - out of the pandemic, as look forward to trying to recover from this, the i to trying to recover from this, the question— to trying to recover from this, the question is, — to trying to recover from this, the

question is, who _ to trying to recover from this, the question is, who is _ to trying to recover from this, the question is, who is going - to trying to recover from this, the question is, who is going to - to trying to recover from this, the question is, who is going to pay. to trying to recover from this, the . question is, who is going to pay the bills? _ question is, who is going to pay the bills? how— question is, who is going to pay the bills? howare _ question is, who is going to pay the bills? how are we _ question is, who is going to pay the bills? how are we going _ question is, who is going to pay the bills? how are we going to - question is, who is going to pay the bills? how are we going to create . question is, who is going to pay the bills? how are we going to create a | bills? how are we going to create a high-growth, — bills? how are we going to create a high-growth, low— bills? how are we going to create a high—growth, low tax, _ bills? how are we going to create a high—growth, low tax, high- high—growth, low tax, high productivity— high—growth, low tax, high productivity environment? | high—growth, low tax, high- productivity environment? and that is very— productivity environment? and that is very much— productivity environment? and that is very much what _ productivity environment? and that is very much what we _ productivity environment? and that is very much what we want - —— will want to talk about. what the conservatives — —— will want to talk about. what the conservatives are _ —— will want to talk about. what the conservatives are talk _ —— will want to talk about. what the conservatives are talk about, - —— will want to talk about. what the conservatives are talk about, low. conservatives are talk about, low regulationm _ conservatives are talk about, low regulation... that _ conservatives are talk about, low regulation... that is _ conservatives are talk about, low regulation... that is going - conservatives are talk about, low regulation... that is going to i conservatives are talk about, low regulation... that is going to bel regulation... that is going to be the big — regulation... that is going to be the big point— regulation... that is going to be the big point and _ regulation... that is going to be the big point and we _ regulation... that is going to be the big point and we want- regulation... that is going to be the big point and we want to i regulation... that is going to be the big point and we want to be| regulation... that is going to be. the big point and we want to be a part of— the big point and we want to be a part of that, _ the big point and we want to be a part of that, because _ the big point and we want to be a part of that, because there - the big point and we want to be a part of that, because there is i the big point and we want to be a part of that, because there is nol part of that, because there is no one pitching _ part of that, because there is no one pitching very— part of that, because there is no one pitching very high—growth, i part of that, because there is no i one pitching very high—growth, low tax agenda, — one pitching very high—growth, low tax agenda, which _ one pitching very high—growth, low tax agenda, which is _ one pitching very high—growth, low tax agenda, which is going - one pitching very high—growth, low tax agenda, which is going to - one pitching very high—growth, low tax agenda, which is going to be i one pitching very high—growth, lowl tax agenda, which is going to be the way that— tax agenda, which is going to be the way that you — tax agenda, which is going to be the way that you can— tax agenda, which is going to be the way that you can high _ tax agenda, which is going to be the way that you can high wages - tax agenda, which is going to be the way that you can high wages and i tax agenda, which is going to be thej way that you can high wages and get more _ way that you can high wages and get more tax _ way that you can high wages and get more tax revenues... _ way that you can high wages and get more tax revenues... that— way that you can high wages and get more tax revenues... that is- way that you can high wages and get more tax revenues... that is no- more tax revenues... that is no longer— more tax revenues... that is no longer the — more tax revenues... that is no longer the pitch— more tax revenues... that is no longer the pitch of— more tax revenues... that is no longer the pitch of the - more tax revenues... that is no- longer the pitch of the conservative party, _ longer the pitch of the conservative party, that — longer the pitch of the conservative party, that is — longer the pitch of the conservative party, that is the _ longer the pitch of the conservative party, that is the pitch— longer the pitch of the conservative party, that is the pitch we - longer the pitch of the conservative party, that is the pitch we are - party, that is the pitch we are going — party, that is the pitch we are going to — party, that is the pitch we are going to make. _ party, that is the pitch we are going to make, as _ party, that is the pitch we are going to make, as well- party, that is the pitch we are going to make, as well as- party, that is the pitch we are| going to make, as well as how party, that is the pitch we are i going to make, as well as how we party, that is the pitch we are - going to make, as well as how we are going _ going to make, as well as how we are going to _ going to make, as well as how we are going to reform — going to make, as well as how we are going to reform the _ going to make, as well as how we are going to reform the public— going to make, as well as how we are going to reform the public service. i going to reform the public service. sorry— going to reform the public service. sorry to _ going to reform the public service. sorry to interrupt _ going to reform the public service. sorry to interrupt you, _ going to reform the public service. sorry to interrupt you, but - going to reform the public service. j sorry to interrupt you, but actually thatis sorry to interrupt you, but actually that is not the pitch that is going to go down well in hartlepool, and the tories had a stunning victory in hartlepool, which would suggest the tories are doing a pretty good job

with appealing to the 360 who support deacons of the party, and actually there is no room for another party that takes a right position... another party that takes a right position- - -_ position... the point is, the conservatives _ position... the point is, the conservatives moved i position... the point is, the conservatives moved to i position... the point is, the conservatives moved to the j position... the point is, the i conservatives moved to the left composure _ conservatives moved to the left composure what _ conservatives moved to the left composure what they— conservatives moved to the left composure what they have i conservatives moved to the leftl composure what they have taken conservatives moved to the left i composure what they have taken the labour _ composure what they have taken the labour vote — composure what they have taken the labour vote in — composure what they have taken the labour vote in very _ composure what they have taken the labour vote in very big _ composure what they have taken the labour vote in very big numbers, i labour vote in very big numbers, because — labour vote in very big numbers, because they're _ labour vote in very big numbers, because they're opening - labour vote in very big numbers, because they're opening the i because they're opening the chequebook. _ because they're opening the chequebook, they— because they're opening the chequebook, they put - because they're opening the chequebook, they put a i because they're opening the chequebook, they put a big i because they're opening the - chequebook, they put a big armour on everybody— chequebook, they put a big armour on everybody with — chequebook, they put a big armour on everybody with the _ chequebook, they put a big armour on everybody with the furlough, - chequebook, they put a big armour on everybody with the furlough, and i- everybody with the furlough, and i had people — everybody with the furlough, and i had pe0ple say— everybody with the furlough, and i had pe0ple say to _ everybody with the furlough, and i had people say to me _ everybody with the furlough, and i had people say to me in— everybody with the furlough, and ii had people say to me in hartlepool, we want _ had people say to me in hartlepool, we want some — had people say to me in hartlepool, we want some of— had people say to me in hartlepool, we want some of boris's _ had people say to me in hartlepool, we want some of boris's money, - had people say to me in hartlepool, i we want some of boris's money, and at some _ we want some of boris's money, and at some point— we want some of boris's money, and at some point the _ we want some of boris's money, and at some point the debate _ we want some of boris's money, and at some point the debate is- we want some of boris's money, and at some point the debate is going. we want some of boris's money, and at some point the debate is going to| at some point the debate is going to shift, _ at some point the debate is going to shift, going— at some point the debate is going to shift, going to — at some point the debate is going to shift, going to change, _ at some point the debate is going to shift, going to change, and - at some point the debate is going to shift, going to change, and it's- shift, going to change, and it's going — shift, going to change, and it's going to — shift, going to change, and it's going to be, _ shift, going to change, and it's going to be, who— shift, going to change, and it's going to be, who is— shift, going to change, and it's going to be, who is going - shift, going to change, and it's going to be, who is going to. shift, going to change, and it's. going to be, who is going to pay shift, going to change, and it's- going to be, who is going to pay the bills and _ going to be, who is going to pay the bills and how— going to be, who is going to pay the bills and how are _ going to be, who is going to pay the bills and how are we _ going to be, who is going to pay the bills and how are we going - going to be, who is going to pay the bills and how are we going to - going to be, who is going to pay the bills and how are we going to create some _ bills and how are we going to create some growth— bills and how are we going to create some growth in_ bills and how are we going to create some growth in order— bills and how are we going to create some growth in order to— bills and how are we going to create some growth in order to start - bills and how are we going to create some growth in order to start going| some growth in order to start going our way— some growth in order to start going our way out — some growth in order to start going our way out of _ some growth in order to start going our way out of this _ some growth in order to start going our way out of this crisis _ some growth in order to start going our way out of this crisis rather- our way out of this crisis rather than _ our way out of this crisis rather than taxing _ our way out of this crisis rather than taxing our— our way out of this crisis rather than taxing our way— our way out of this crisis rather than taxing our way out - our way out of this crisis rather than taxing our way out of- our way out of this crisis rather than taxing our way out of this| than taxing our way out of this crisis — than taxing our way out of this crisis and _ than taxing our way out of this crisis. and that _ than taxing our way out of this crisis. and that is— than taxing our way out of this crisis. and that is very - than taxing our way out of this crisis. and that is very much . than taxing our way out of this i crisis. and that is very much the bay crisis. and that is very much the hey we — crisis. and that is very much the hey we want _ crisis. and that is very much the hey we want to _ crisis. and that is very much the bay we want to be _ crisis. and that is very much the bay we want to be having, - crisis. and that is very much the bay we want to be having, so i crisis. and that is very much the i bay we want to be having, so we're looking _ bay we want to be having, so we're looking forward, _ bay we want to be having, so we're looking forward, not _ bay we want to be having, so we're looking forward, not backward, - bay we want to be having, so we'rel looking forward, not backward, that is what _ looking forward, not backward, that is what is _ looking forward, not backward, that is what is going _ looking forward, not backward, that is what is going to _ looking forward, not backward, that is what is going to be _ looking forward, not backward, that is what is going to be about, - looking forward, not backward, that is what is going to be about, and i is what is going to be about, and we've _ is what is going to be about, and we've got— is what is going to be about, and we've got to _ is what is going to be about, and we've got to create _ is what is going to be about, and we've got to create some - is what is going to be about, and we've got to create some growth is what is going to be about, and . we've got to create some growth in the country — we've got to create some growth in the country for— we've got to create some growth in the country for stubby— we've got to create some growth in the country for stubby look- we've got to create some growth in the country for stubby look at - we've got to create some growth in the country for stubby look at the l the country for stubby look at the chancellor's — the country for stubby look at the chancellor's recent _ the country for stubby look at the chancellor's recent budget, - the country for stubby look at the chancellor's recent budget, the l chancellor's recent budget, the medium — chancellor's recent budget, the medium growth _ chancellor's recent budget, the medium growth is _ chancellor's recent budget, the medium growth is lowest - chancellor's recent budget, the medium growth is lowest for. chancellor's recent budget, the| medium growth is lowest for 60 yearsm — medium growth is lowest for 60 yearsm i— medium growth is lowest for 60 years... i wonder— medium growth is lowest for 60 years... i wonder how— medium growth is lowest for 60 years... i wonder how long - medium growth is lowest for 60 . years... i wonder how long people are going — years... i wonder how long people

are going to— wa nt want that to be the future and the ambition, — want that to be the future and the ambition, we _ want that to be the future and the ambition, we need— want that to be the future and the ambition, we need to _ want that to be the future and the ambition, we need to be - want that to be the future and the ambition, we need to be much - want that to be the future and the . ambition, we need to be much more ambitious, _ ambition, we need to be much more ambitious, nruch— ambition, we need to be much more ambitious, much more _ ambition, we need to be much morei ambitious, much more high—growth, and we _ ambitious, much more high—growth, and we want — ambitious, much more high—growth, and we want to— ambitious, much more high—growth, and we want to be _ ambitious, much more high—growth, and we want to be part _ ambitious, much more high—growth, and we want to be part of— ambitious, much more high—growth, and we want to be part of that - and we want to be part of that debate — and we want to be part of that debate and _ and we want to be part of that debate. and he _ and we want to be part of that debate. and he was _ and we want to be part of that debate. and he was going - and we want to be part of that debate. and he was going to i and we want to be part of that. debate. and he was going to pay and we want to be part of that - debate. and he was going to pay the cost? _ debate. and he was going to pay the cost? ., , . . , . cost? you might see increased tax recei ts cost? you might see increased tax receipts might _ cost? you might see increased tax receipts might pay _ cost? you might see increased tax receipts might pay the _ cost? you might see increased tax receipts might pay the cost - cost? you might see increased tax receipts might pay the cost of - cost? you might see increased tax receipts might pay the cost of thati receipts might pay the cost of that cub let's look at tees valley and what he is doing with buying an airport, with a freeport, that is the way you build growth. you bill small, agile, fleet of foot businesses in those areas and that is what you build the economy. and is what you build the economy. and there is no — is what you build the economy. and there is no one _ is what you build the economy. and there is no one who has been advocating _ there is no one who has been advocating freeport - there is no one who has been advocating freeport is - there is no one who has been advocating freeport is more. there is no one who has been- advocating freeport is more than me. i advocating freeport is more than me. i was _ advocating freeport is more than me. i was talking — advocating freeport is more than me. i was talking about _ advocating freeport is more than me. i was talking about it _ advocating freeport is more than me. i was talking about it back _ advocating freeport is more than me. i was talking about it back in - advocating freeport is more than me. i was talking about it back in 2016, i i was talking about it back in 2016, but we _ i was talking about it back in 2016, but we have — i was talking about it back in 2016, but we have to _ i was talking about it back in 2016, but we have to talk _ i was talking about it back in 2016, but we have to talk about - i was talking about it back in 2016, but we have to talk about more - but we have to talk about more areas — but we have to talk about more areas the _ but we have to talk about more areas. the self—employed - but we have to talk about more areas. the self—employed are i but we have to talk about more - areas. the self—employed are being completely— areas. the self—employed are being completely invented _ areas. the self—employed are being completely invented by _ areas. the self—employed are being completely invented by this - completely invented by this government _ completely invented by this government. these - completely invented by this government. these are - completely invented by this government. these are the| completely invented by this - government. these are the things. and we _ government. these are the things. and we have — government. these are the things. and we have got _ government. these are the things. and we have got to _ government. these are the things. and we have got to have, - government. these are the things. and we have got to have, yes, - government. these are the things. and we have got to have, yes, wei and we have got to have, yes, we want _ and we have got to have, yes, we want to— and we have got to have, yes, we want to reduce _ and we have got to have, yes, we want to reduce emissions, - and we have got to have, yes, we want to reduce emissions, we - and we have got to have, yes, we. want to reduce emissions, we want and we have got to have, yes, we - want to reduce emissions, we want to do in _ want to reduce emissions, we want to do in a _ want to reduce emissions, we want to do in a smart— want to reduce emissions, we want to do in a smart way— want to reduce emissions, we want to do in a smart way with _ want to reduce emissions, we want to do in a smart way with technology- do in a smart way with technology that creates — do in a smart way with technology that creates and _ do in a smart way with technology that creates and saves _ do in a smart way with technology

that creates and saves british - do in a smart way with technology. that creates and saves britishjobs, not sends— that creates and saves britishjobs, not sends them _ that creates and saves britishjobs, not sends them overseas, - that creates and saves britishjobs, not sends them overseas, and - that creates and saves britishjobs, not sends them overseas, and we i that creates and saves british jobs, i not sends them overseas, and we do not sends them overseas, and we do not want _ not sends them overseas, and we do not want to— not sends them overseas, and we do not want to send _ not sends them overseas, and we do not want to send all— not sends them overseas, and we do not want to send all of— not sends them overseas, and we do not want to send all of our— not sends them overseas, and we do not want to send all of our money. not want to send all of our money towards _ not want to send all of our money towards renewable _ not want to send all of our money towards renewable companies - not want to send all of our money- towards renewable companies located offshore _ towards renewable companies located offshore these — towards renewable companies located offshore. these are _ towards renewable companies located offshore. these are the _ towards renewable companies located offshore. these are the challenges . offshore. these are the challenges heing _ offshore. these are the challenges being faced — offshore. these are the challenges being faced in— offshore. these are the challenges being faced in the _ offshore. these are the challenges being faced in the next _ offshore. these are the challenges being faced in the next couple - offshore. these are the challenges being faced in the next couple of l being faced in the next couple of years _ being faced in the next couple of years and — being faced in the next couple of years and we _ being faced in the next couple of years and we want _ being faced in the next couple of years and we want to _ being faced in the next couple of years and we want to be - being faced in the next couple of years and we want to be very- being faced in the next couple of . years and we want to be very much part of— years and we want to be very much part of that — years and we want to be very much part of that debate. _ years and we want to be very much part of that debate.— part of that debate. thank you so much forjoining _ part of that debate. thank you so much forjoining us. _ part of that debate. thank you so much forjoining us. we - part of that debate. thank you so much forjoining us. we are - part of that debate. thank you so much forjoining us. we are nowl much forjoining us. we are now joined by the bbc�*s political editor in scotland sarah smith. sarah, where stan scotland? ihla in scotland sarah smith. sarah, where stan scotland? no change thus far, of all where stan scotland? no change thus far. of all the — where stan scotland? no change thus far, of all the seats _ where stan scotland? no change thus far, of all the seats we _ where stan scotland? no change thus far, of all the seats we have - where stan scotland? no change thus far, of all the seats we have had - far, of all the seats we have had dectared — far, of all the seats we have had declared in _ far, of all the seats we have had declared in scotland, only two of them _ declared in scotland, only two of them have — declared in scotland, only two of them have changed hands, they have both treen— them have changed hands, they have both been gains for the snp. i think every— both been gains for the snp. i think every party— both been gains for the snp. i think every party would knowledge the snp are going _ every party would knowledge the snp are going to be the largest government —— largest party, in power for three terms _ —— largest party, in power for three terms are — —— largest party, in power for three terms. are they going to get more than 65— terms. are they going to get more than 65 season have an overall majority? _ than 65 season have an overall majority? that still hangs the balance _ majority? that still hangs the balance. seems pretty likely that even _ balance. seems pretty likely that even if— balance. seems pretty likely that even if they do not, there will be enough _ even if they do not, there will be enough scottish greens returned there _ enough scottish greens returned there witt— enough scottish greens returned there will be uploaded dependent majority— there will be uploaded dependent majority in the next parliament and

that could — majority in the next parliament and that could have real consequences. —— a pro—independence. is that could have real consequences. -- a pro-independence.— that could have real consequences. -- a pro-independence. is there any less legitimacy _ -- a pro-independence. is there any less legitimacy for _ -- a pro-independence. is there any less legitimacy for a _ -- a pro-independence. is there any less legitimacy for a second - less legitimacy for a second referendum request if you do not have majority if you're like another pro independence parties? the snp would say not- _ pro independence parties? the snp would say not. they _ pro independence parties? the snp would say not. they have _ pro independence parties? the snp would say not. they have a - pro independence parties? the snpj would say not. they have a majority in the _ would say not. they have a majority in the parliament, their fortune go ahead _ in the parliament, their fortune go ahead a— in the parliament, their fortune go ahead. a little it's on the history. the last— ahead. a little it's on the history. the last parliament had a pro—independence majority, with the snp and _ pro—independence majority, with the snp and the greens together. that parliament even passed a motion saying _ parliament even passed a motion saying they wanted to have another referendum, but the prime minister, the then— referendum, but the prime minister, the then prime minister theresa may, said they— the then prime minister theresa may, said they felt they would vote no. but in _ said they felt they would vote no. but in 2007, when the snp... 2011, sorry. _ but in 2007, when the snp... 2011, sorry. that — but in 2007, when the snp... 2011, sorry, that is — but in 2007, when the snp... 2011, sorry, that is when david cameron agreed _ sorry, that is when david cameron agreed to— sorry, that is when david cameron agreed to a — sorry, that is when david cameron agreed to a vote.— sorry, that is when david cameron agreed to a vote. what has happened since then, agreed to a vote. what has happened since then. as — agreed to a vote. what has happened since then, as it _ agreed to a vote. what has happened since then, as it were, _ agreed to a vote. what has happened since then, as it were, consolidated l since then, as it were, consolidated that feeling among the snp, is that we have had brexit, and we had a

situation when 62% of the people in scotland voted to remain in the uk, and what the snp would say it was that was a total disregard of the democratic wishes of the people of scotland. �* . democratic wishes of the people of scotland. . . ._ , democratic wishes of the people of scotland. . . , . �* , scotland. and that maybe what's chan . ed scotland. and that maybe what's changed some — scotland. and that maybe what's changed some of _ scotland. and that maybe what's changed some of the _ scotland. and that maybe what's changed some of the electoral. changed some of the electoral arithmetic here in scotland, and you've _ arithmetic here in scotland, and you've seen the snp really consolidate both in westminster seats _ consolidate both in westminster seats and it looks so going to in hotyrood — seats and it looks so going to in holyrood. since then it's probably hard and — holyrood. since then it's probably hard and allowed people's desire to have a _ hard and allowed people's desire to have a referendum and see an independent scotland forcible to change — independent scotland forcible to change the prime and is a's mind? this is— change the prime and is a's mind? this is what— change the prime and is a's mind? this is what comes down to for sub the snp _ this is what comes down to for sub the snp will say he cannot ignore democracy if there

nicola sturgeon has been criticised for sunni she wants to go to quickly because her policy is to go in the first—half of this parliament by late 2023. and people are not in favour of mixing a referendum with a covid recovery. ointment if nicola sturgeon takes care —— if covid recovery. ointment if nicola sturgeon takes care --_ sturgeon takes care -- if nicola sturueon sturgeon takes care -- if nicola sturgeon takes _ sturgeon takes care -- if nicola sturgeon takes over, _ sturgeon takes care -- if nicola sturgeon takes over, that - sturgeon takes care -- if nicola | sturgeon takes over, that would sturgeon takes care -- if nicola - sturgeon takes over, that would see how she would be seen as a statesman who is leading the country.

absolutely, as you were