nicola sturgeon has been criticised for sunni she wants to go to quickly because her policy is to go in the first—half of this parliament by late 2023. and people are not in favour of mixing a referendum with a covid recovery. 0intment if nicola sturgeon takes care —— iii covid recovery. ointment if nicola sturgeon takes care --_ sturgeon takes care -- if nicola sturueon sturgeon takes care -- if nicola sturgeon takes _ sturgeon takes care -- if nicola sturgeon takes over, _ sturgeon takes care -- if nicola sturgeon takes over, that - sturgeon takes care -- if nicola | sturgeon takes over, that would sturgeon takes care -- if nicola - sturgeon takes over, that would see how she would be seen as a statesman who is leading the country. absolutely, as you were saying, if the prime minister is cunning enough to go quickly, they will have a better chance. we are still looking at polls, even over the last year, it is still 50-50. at polls, even over the last year, it is still 50—50. recently we have seen more support for the union, that anything can happen in the course of a referendum campaign. thank you very much. let's just

pause for a second because we are about to have yet another string of results, notjust from scotland from wales as well. i will be talking as we go along with some of the results of the english local authorities too which are still coming in. in welsh terms, this is the picture really as we understand it. the ukip vote which was really high in wales in 2016 has pretty much evaporated. and where it has gone as far as we can measure it so far is that it has led to a kind of 5% boost for labour, and 5% for the conservatives, with plaid can reach pretty much flat and plaid can reach pretty much flat and plaid cymru would have expected to be not running flat in this senedd election, they would have been expecting to be shown to make some kind of gain. we will talk to one of plaid cymru's members in a second. but let's look at some of these

battlegrounds first with rita so that we get a bit of context. i am just being told that swansea west has been held by labour, not a surprise. but a conservative to labour swing of 2.1%. againjust showing that welsh labour is managing to stave off. interesting isn't it. a very different sort of pattern in wales— isn't it. a very different sort of pattern in wales than in england. you can see _ pattern in wales than in england. you can see from _ pattern in wales than in england. you can see from the _ pattern in wales than in england. you can see from the board - pattern in wales than in england. you can see from the board here | pattern in wales than in england. i you can see from the board here the latest results, six labour holds here, one conservative holed in one conservative gain. i want to show you a couple of the labour holds. wrexham in which the conservatives won in the general election in 2019, labour has hung onto this seat here. lesley griffiths with a majority of 1350. let's see what happened to the share of the vote there. labour and

conservative just a little smidge. actually plaid cymru benefiting a lot from the drop in the ukip vote. interesting that in wrexham, but labour have hung on and they will be of course a very relieved about that. i want also to show you delyn in the north—eastern corner, this was another westminster seat the conservatives won in 2019. but hannah blethyn has hung on to it here with a healthy majority of nearly 4000. let's take a look at what happened to the share. she got 48%, the conservatives 35. plaid cymru and the conservatives have gone up there, they both from the ukip vote at the drop in the lib dems and plaid cymru. let's show you

want the conservatives have gained, this is the vale of clwyd. a tiny majority death the gareth davies, he has just hit the labour candidate to the post there. this has always been labour in the assembly, you can see it coming back all those years. let's take a look here at what has happened to the share of the vote. that is the overall raw share, but thatis that is the overall raw share, but that is the share change — five percentage points by the conservatives. labour has gone up a little bit as well, they have all gone up a little bit which does suggest there is somebody else who hasn't been standing this time around. and their votes have been re—apportioned. let's see what else we can see here. that is a swing from labour to conservative of 2.3%. thanks very much. that gives us a bit of context, and of course you're interested too in those areas where

the battle is between labour and plaid cymru, because that is going to be an interesting outcome for us to be an interesting outcome for us to see, notjust in places like the rumba for example where the party leader at the time leanne wood unseated one of the most prominent labour ministers at the time, leighton andrews. but also in other parts of wales where that is the kind of competition we are looking at. we will see what happens when the nfa comes along. what i would like to do now is go to anglesey —— to llanelli. the deputy leader here. congratulations on your election, first of all. silence i am delighted to have been re—elected with a... i can hear you, yes, hume. if you can hear me what i'm saying is that i am delighted to have had a strong support once again

to continue representing the wonderful island of anglesey. i think you have the record of nine hours of broadcasting having the longest delay of the lot on the line! as a seasoned broadcaster yourself, it won't bother you at all. i will ask you first of all, where do you think plaid cymru will be proud of its performance on these elections? find be proud of its performance on these elections? �* ., , ., be proud of its performance on these elections? �* ., , elections? and are you pleased with what ou elections? and are you pleased with what you have _ elections? and are you pleased with what you have heard _ elections? and are you pleased with what you have heard so _ elections? and are you pleased with what you have heard so far? - well, people will have had that pause to think what is he going to say now? what i will say is that in places where we have been able to show that we are a party of the community and we were sitting on a good solid majorities before, we have been able to stretch those majorities. this is a party that is a grassroots party in many ways, but it is a party that is building a nation. that is our project, to build a more prosperous wales, to

build a more prosperous wales, to build a more confident wales, and whatever the individual results that i will have time to reflect on. forgive me for not having had time to reflect on them yet, what i will reflect on is the growing confidence in that debate on nationhood that i felt throughout wales, even if we have not got some of the results that we wanted is an individual constituency.— that we wanted is an individual constituen . ., ., ., constituency. you are not confident that ou constituency. you are not confident that you will _ constituency. you are not confident that you will increase _ constituency. you are not confident that you will increase your - constituency. you are not confident that you will increase your number| that you will increase your number of seats in the senedd after all of this? i of seats in the senedd after all of this? 2, �* of seats in the senedd after all of this? u, �* ., , this? i can't tell, i have been stuck in _ this? i can't tell, i have been stuck in a — this? i can't tell, i have been stuck in a constituency - this? i can't tell, i have been| stuck in a constituency bubble this? i can't tell, i have been - stuck in a constituency bubble for the last few hours. i am not in a position yet where i can really reflect on what has happened and what is likely to happen elsewhere. in the content of the election, it is quite difficult when you are coming off the back of a pandemic where a government has had a huge amount of exposure, where thankfully things like vaccine programmes have been running well and they are able to look to build on the credit for that. in the same way as the conservatives have been able to do

in england. that is the context of this election. as i say, through all of that, even when we have not been getting the result that we wanted in individual seats so far, that debate where we are heading out wales seems to me to have taken a change of direction, i have felt it on the ground in anglesey over the past few weeks. even by people who have not been convinced entirely of independence, they want to talk about it, that is exciting. qm. independence, they want to talk about it, that is exciting. 0k, they want to talk _ about it, that is exciting. 0k, they want to talk about _ about it, that is exciting. 0k, they want to talk about it, _ about it, that is exciting. 0k, they want to talk about it, but - about it, that is exciting. 0k, they want to talk about it, but really i want to talk about it, but really you want them to vote for you. and on the basis of what we have seen so far, i am just, on the basis of what we have seen so far, iamjust, we on the basis of what we have seen so far, i am just, we have not had an all in, but on the basis of what we have seen so far, it is not a great set of elections for plaid cymru. if thatis set of elections for plaid cymru. if that is the case, what conclusions will you draw from that in terms of the way that you discuss the whole concept of independence? and gauge the true popularity of it amongst welsh voters? fix,

the true popularity of it amongst welsh voters?— welsh voters? a very important auestion welsh voters? a very important question and — welsh voters? a very important question and an _ welsh voters? a very important question and an adult _ welsh voters? a very important question and an adult over- welsh voters? a very important question and an adult over the. welsh voters? a very important - question and an adult over the next few days and indeed weeks because it does take time to chew the card over the likes of results, we will reflect on that. i know i have had more conversations about independence on the doorstep, and i know that i have increased the majority here. so when you are able to frame the debate on the way people feel they can engage with, where they want to talk to the nitty—gritty and talk pragmatism and talk how will this happen and how will that happen? we can take strides forward. but when you have an election that is in the context of covid, a positive picture, thankfully in terms of covid in wales, a success story in terms of vaccination, you have a government thatis vaccination, you have a government that is able to solidify its position stop thank you forjoining us, we will talk to some of your colleagues on as well.— us, we will talk to some of your colleagues on as well. let's go to the latest declaration. _ colleagues on as well. let's go to the latest declaration. the - the latest declaration. the returning _

the latest declaration. the returning officer _ the latest declaration. the returning officer for - the latest declaration. the returning officer for the scottish parliamentary _ returning officer for the scottish parliamentary election - returning officer for the scottish parliamentary election for - returning officer for the scottish parliamentary election for the l parliamentary election for the dumfriesshire _ parliamentary election for the dumfriesshire constituency i parliamentary election for the - dumfriesshire constituency hereby dumfriesshire constituency here by - ive dumfriesshire constituency hereby give notice — dumfriesshire constituency hereby give notice and _ dumfriesshire constituency hereby give notice and the _ dumfriesshire constituency hereby give notice and the total— dumfriesshire constituency hereby give notice and the total number. dumfriesshire constituency herebyl give notice and the total number of votes _ give notice and the total number of votes polled — give notice and the total number of votes polled for— give notice and the total number of votes polled for each _ give notice and the total number of votes polled for each candidate - give notice and the total number of| votes polled for each candidate was as follows: — votes polled for each candidate was as follows: that _ votes polled for each candidate was as follows: that richard _ votes polled for each candidate was as follows: that richard john - as follows: that richard john brodie, _ as follows: that richard john brodie, scottish _ as follows: that richard john brodie, scottish liberal- as follows: that richard john - brodie, scottish liberal democrats, 1314. mcalpine, _ brodie, scottish liberal democrats, 1314. mcalpine, scottish— brodie, scottish liberal democrats, 1314. mcalpine, scottish national. 1314. mcalpine, scottish national party. _ 1314. mcalpine, scottish national party. snp, — 1314. mcalpine, scottish national party, snp,15,421._ 1314. mcalpine, scottish national party, snp,15,421. oliver- 1314. mcalpine, scottish national. party, snp, 15,421. 0liver mundell, scottish— party, snp, 15,421. 0liver mundell, scottish conservative _ party, snp, 15,421. 0liver mundell, scottish conservative and _ party, snp, 15,421. 0liver mundell, scottish conservative and unionist i scottish conservative and unionist party. _ scottish conservative and unionist party,19,487.— scottish conservative and unionist party, 19,487. colin— scottish conservative and unionist party, 19,487. colin smith, - scottish conservative and unionist i party, 19,487. colin smith, scottish labour— party, 19,487. colin smith, scottish labour party— party, 19,487. colin smith, scottish labour party and _ party, 19,487. colin smith, scottish labour party and scottish _ labour party and scottish co—operative _ labour party and scottish co—operative party, - labour party and scottish co—operative party, 4671. labour party and scottish i co—operative party, 4671. i labour party and scottish - co—operative party, 4671. i hereby declare _ co—operative party, 4671. i hereby declare that — co—operative party, 4671. i hereby declare that oliver— co—operative party, 4671. i hereby declare that 0liver mundell- co—operative party, 4671. i hereby declare that 0liver mundell has i co—operative party, 4671. i hereby. declare that 0liver mundell has been duly elected — declare that 0liver mundell has been duly elected to — declare that 0liver mundell has been duly elected to serve _ declare that 0liver mundell has been duly elected to serve as _ declare that 0liver mundell has been duly elected to serve as of— declare that 0liver mundell has been duly elected to serve as of the - duly elected to serve as of the member— duly elected to serve as of the member of— duly elected to serve as of the member of the _ duly elected to serve as of the member of the scottish -

duly elected to serve as of the - member of the scottish parliament for the _ member of the scottish parliament for the dumfriesshire _ member of the scottish parliamentj for the dumfriesshire constituency. the number— for the dumfriesshire constituency. the number of— for the dumfriesshire constituency. the number of ballot _ for the dumfriesshire constituency. the number of ballot papers - for the dumfriesshire constituency. i the number of ballot papers rejected and not _ the number of ballot papers rejected and not counted... _ the number of ballot papers rejected and not counted... that— the number of ballot papers re'ected and not counted. . — and not counted... that is oliver mundell son _ and not counted... that is oliver mundell son of _ and not counted... that is oliver mundell son of david _ and not counted... that is oliver mundell son of david mundell. and not counted... that is oliver. mundell son of david mundell who and not counted... that is oliver- mundell son of david mundell who was the secretary of state for scotland, he has been returned. a strong challenge for the snp. we were saying that the snp had high hopes, jordan mcalpine who is a list msp. he was challenging 0liver mundell. we will look at that result in dumfriesshire, we can see in terms of share of the vote the conservatives are on 48% of the vote. the snp on 38 and labour on 11. let's look at that vote in terms of the unionist vote and the change, it shows that 10% increase in the conservative vote in dumfriesshire, and a 14% drop in the labour vote. snp are up four. that is interesting because that is a straight labour to conservative tactical voting on behalf of the union. that unionist

vote is consolidating all the way through the day. we are joined now by our correspondent. what do you make of that? that by our correspondent. what do you make of that?— make of that? that is a strong, isn't it? the — make of that? that is a strong, isn't it? the conservatives - make of that? that is a strong, i isn't it? the conservatives started this tactic— isn't it? the conservatives started this tactic in — isn't it? the conservatives started this tactic in the debate in the 2017 _ this tactic in the debate in the 2017 general election when they said, _ 2017 general election when they said. "we — 2017 general election when they said, "we are both capable, robust party— said, "we are both capable, robust party of— said, "we are both capable, robust party of the — said, "we are both capable, robust party of the union. care about the union _ party of the union. care about the union. abandon your tribal loyalties and come _ union. abandon your tribal loyalties and come to us. " it is striking how much _ and come to us. " it is striking how much tactical— and come to us. " it is striking how much tactical loyalty that is against _ much tactical loyalty that is against the snp in many constituencies here. what we are seeing _ constituencies here. what we are seeing is — constituencies here. what we are seeing is that the old left— right jalopy— seeing is that the old left— right jalopy that dominates british politics— jalopy that dominates british politics is giving way in scotland or has _ politics is giving way in scotland or has any— politics is giving way in scotland or has any given way to two new tribes _ or has any given way to two new tribes called yes and no.- tribes called yes and no. except the are tribes called yes and no. except they are not _ tribes called yes and no. except they are not new— tribes called yes and no. except they are not new because - tribes called yes and no. except they are not new because they. tribes called yes and no. except - they are not new because they were there in 2014. it is a re—of that divide. it there in 2014. it is a re-of that divide. . . there in 2014. it is a re-of that divide. , , ., , ., divide. it is, it is what started the 2014 referendum, - divide. it is, it is what started the 2014 referendum, by - divide. it is, it is what started - the 2014 referendum, by redefining the 2014 referendum, by redefining the hotline. brexited the the same thing _ the hotline. brexited the the same thing in _ the hotline. brexited the the same thing in the rest of the country.

this— thing in the rest of the country. this is— thing in the rest of the country. this is your— thing in the rest of the country. this is your home territory, in dumfriesshire, that was once a labour area but now it is consolidated by the conservatives. it was, and of course that part of the country— it was, and of course that part of the country is a fertile territory for the — the country is a fertile territory for the snp as well. galloway has had snp — for the snp as well. galloway has had snp mps and indie msps and tends to swing _ had snp mps and indie msps and tends to swing between the conservatives and the _ to swing between the conservatives and the snp. labour squeezed everywhere by this. the and the snp. labour squeezed everywhere by this.— and the snp. labour squeezed everywhere by this. the other one we are still waiting _ everywhere by this. the other one we are still waiting for _ everywhere by this. the other one we are still waiting for is _ everywhere by this. the other one we are still waiting for is ayr, _ everywhere by this. the other one we are still waiting for is ayr, third - are still waiting for is ayr, third in the list. the majority there only 750. that was one which we were waiting for edinburgh central which is conservative majority of 610. indeed the snp are much more confident in edinburgh central. thea;t confident in edinburgh central. they are, the confident in edinburgh central. they are. they win _ confident in edinburgh central. they are, they win that _ confident in edinburgh central. they are, they win that one, that will be are, they win that one, that will be a net _ are, they win that one, that will be a net gain — are, they win that one, that will be a net gain if— are, they win that one, that will be a net gain. if they win ayr, ayr is in the _ a net gain. if they win ayr, ayr is in the south _ a net gain. if they win ayr, ayr is in the south of scotland, if they win it _ in the south of scotland, if they win it as— in the south of scotland, if they win it as a — in the south of scotland, if they win it as a constituency they will not lose — win it as a constituency they will not lose one of the list mps in the south _ not lose one of the list mps in the south of— not lose one of the list mps in the south of scotland, so that would in a sense _ south of scotland, so that would in a sense cancel it out. but south of scotland, so that would in a sense cancel it out.— a sense cancel it out. but the one we are waiting — a sense cancel it out. but the one we are waiting for _ a sense cancel it out. but the one we are waiting for is _ a sense cancel it out. but the one we are waiting for is dumbarton, | we are waiting for is dumbarton, because we know that there has been a delay in dumbarton. the seat with

the least majority in scotland, 109. and that is what we will be looking for. as i was beginning to say to nick earlier, we mustn't underestimate the fact that we talk about constituencies, but constituencies form the 73, the list is 56, and that system was designed to make sure there was an overall majority, it hasn't worked out that way. but it will certainly, we have not heard much about the greens, it will bring the greens back in and bring more liberal democrats msps in full so the picture quite radically. it will be interesting to see how this tactical voting tactic by the conservatives plays out. they made a great _ conservatives plays out. they made a great deal _ conservatives plays out. they made a great deal of peach paper and the second _ great deal of peach paper and the second vote we all had. because if this article — second vote we all had. because if this article voting works as well as it seems— this article voting works as well as it seems to — this article voting works as well as it seems to have worked for them, it will change — it seems to have worked for them, it will change. we will still be talking _ will change. we will still be talking this time tomorrow, we still

won't _ talking this time tomorrow, we still won't know— talking this time tomorrow, we still won't know this time tomorrow for the people — won't know this time tomorrow for the people go to the wire.- won't know this time tomorrow for the people go to the wire. thank you very much- — the people go to the wire. thank you very much. thanks _ the people go to the wire. thank you very much. thanks to _ the people go to the wire. thank you very much. thanks to alan _ the people go to the wire. thank you very much. thanks to alan and - the people go to the wire. thank you j very much. thanks to alan and kirsty will be back— very much. thanks to alan and kirsty will be back shortly. _ very much. thanks to alan and kirsty will be back shortly. we _ very much. thanks to alan and kirsty will be back shortly. we were - will be back shortly. we were talking earlier about the big labour — ayr struggle in wales which labour are looking healthy in. at this stage. in the rhondda, which is one of the most iconic valleys you can think of in terms of coal mining and the industrial past, that was taken by leanne wood, the then leader of plaid cymru back in 2016 against labour's leighton andrews. and she was standing again in this campaign. i havejust had was standing again in this campaign. i have just had a was standing again in this campaign. i havejust had a message was standing again in this campaign. i have just had a message from was standing again in this campaign. i havejust had a message from one very senior labour figure i havejust had a message from one very senior labourfigure in i havejust had a message from one very senior labour figure in wales are saying that they are looking to an easy win in the rhondda. he is suggesting that it will be a pretty painful defeat in leanne wood of plaid cymru, no result in it yet. i am just telling you what they are telling me, so that is quite significant as well.

we were talking about the mayoral contest in liverpool later on and issues around that and the important local authority battles as well. i'm gonna bring in —— going to bring in yunus mulla. as you get the award for most patient reporter. tell us about this if you can assign fellow labour has managed to hold on to a number of the councils for the count has come in. number of the councils for the count has come in— number of the councils for the count has come in. j ., ., ., , ._ has come in. they've managed to stay red, has come in. they've managed to stay red. greater— has come in. they've managed to stay red, greater manchester, _ has come in. they've managed to stay red, greater manchester, rochdale i red, greater manchester, rochdale and 0ldham, although the leader in 0ldham lost his seat to an independent. in lancashire, labour held onto blackburn and darwen. and now, not under any overall control. stockport county usually significant as well, that was under no overall control. labourwas as well, that was under no overall control. labour was the largest

party there but no longer the case. the liberal democrats are the largest party there and that is usually significant. it is the mayoral contest which is also press quite interesting here in the northwest. for mayors jobs are up for grabs, including that the rectally elected mayoral seat in liverpool. last year, the previous mayorjoe anderson faced those allegations of bribery and misinterpretations as part of a police investigation, so he stepped down, he has always denied any wrongdoing, there have been no charges, but that investigation is still ongoing, so labour that had this process in finding some kind of replacement and that eventually settled on joann replacement and that eventually settled onjoann anderson, an unexperienced counsellor, and on that backdrop we have the government expection which point out significant failings in that authority, so this was going to be

contest, and in that mayoral contest, and in that mayoral contest, it had to go to a second preferences of basically no candidate got more than 50%, until went to second preferences, and eventuallyjoanne anderson was eventually joanne anderson was declared eventuallyjoanne anderson was declared the victor there, so that is quite an interesting development there. we are also expecting, of course, the other mayoral contest results, including that one here in greater manchester, andy burnham, high—profile figure. he had those conflict with the government over funding the pandemic, but we are not expecting that result until tomorrow. interestingly, the turnout there in greater manchester for that contest is in the mid 30s.— contest is in the mid 30s. kirstie kieran and _ contest is in the mid 30s. kirstie kieran and ruh. _ contest is in the mid 30s. kirstie kieran and ruh. looking - contest is in the mid 30s. kirstie kieran and ruh. looking at - contest is in the mid 30s. kirstie l kieran and ruh. looking at wigan, the seat of lisa

labour has managed to do 0k there. burnley stays under no overall control but bolton as well. labour's performance _ control but bolton as well. labour's performance across _ control but bolton as well. labour's performance across the _ control but bolton as well. labour's performance across the north - control but bolton as well. labour's performance across the north of. performance across the north of england. 0ur labour holding up more strongly in the north—west and why do you think that is? share strongly in the north-west and why do you think that is?— do you think that is? are you still with us? sorry. —

do you think that is? are you still with us? sorry, i— do you think that is? are you still with us? sorry, i thought- do you think that is? are you still with us? sorry, i thought that - do you think that is? are you still| with us? sorry, i thought that was it from me- _ with us? sorry, i thought that was it from me- i— with us? sorry, i thought that was it from me. i think _ with us? sorry, i thought that was it from me. i think we _ with us? sorry, i thought that was it from me. i think we are - with us? sorry, i thought that was it from me. i think we are trying i with us? sorry, i thought that was| it from me. i think we are trying to make it up — it from me. i think we are trying to make it up to _ it from me. i think we are trying to make it up to you. _ it from me. i think we are trying to make it up to you. vicki _ it from me. i think we are trying to make it up to you. vicki is - it from me. i think we are trying to make it up to you. vicki is with - it from me. i think we are trying to make it up to you. vicki is with me j make it up to you. vicki is with me in the _ make it up to you. vicki is with me in the studio _ make it up to you. vicki is with me in the studio. i hope you can hear what _ in the studio. i hope you can hear what she — in the studio. i hope you can hear what she has to say. it in the studio. i hope you can hear what she has to say.— what she has to say. it was 'ust about labour's i what she has to say. it wasjust about labour's performance - what she has to say. it wasjust about labour's performance inl what she has to say. it wasjust i about labour's performance in the north—east in the north—west and that difference were in the north—west, labourseem that difference were in the north—west, labour seem to be holding up better, do you think that is a fair reflection of what is going on? do labourfeel they have a stronger performance in your area? it is a fair reflection so far but a number of results are not in yet, we are waiting for a lot of results across in merseyside and lancashire as well. so, perhaps, obviously, what they are hoping for is they don't get that repeat that we had seenin don't get that repeat that we had seen in the north—east. don't get that repeat that we had seen in the north-east.— don't get that repeat that we had seen in the north-east. good, thank ou ve seen in the north-east. good, thank you very much _ seen in the north-east. good, thank you very much we'll— seen in the north-east. good, thank you very much we'll let _ seen in the north-east. good, thank you very much we'll let you - seen in the north-east. good, thank you very much we'll let you go - seen in the north-east. good, thank you very much we'll let you go now. | you very much we'll let you go now. there you are, he waits ages and then he gets three all at once asking questions. 0k, what are we

doing next? 0k, well, this is chris my director talking to me now and given me a lot of trouble, he is telling me to chat to vicky. the issueis telling me to chat to vicky. the issue is this, the key. if we look at areas like the north—west, we just heard there, and liverpool, i just heard there, and liverpool, i just wonder if you are keir starmer listening to that, listening to the analysis of what labour's challenge has been in areas like that and what it has failed to come up with, you know, it brings us back to the conversation i was having with you earlier, what does he mean by a pretty radical restart, really, a pretty radical restart, really, a pretty radical restart, really, a pretty radical relaunch, if you like, regardless of the sensitivities of some people in the party. i am sensitivities of some people in the party. iam beginning sensitivities of some people in the party. i am beginning to wonder what that looks like. we party. i am beginning to wonder what that looks like.— that looks like. we don't know, and i think that looks like. we don't know, and i think that — that looks like. we don't know, and i think that is _ that looks like. we don't know, and i think that is part _ that looks like. we don't know, and i think that is part of _ that looks like. we don't know, and i think that is part of the _ that looks like. we don't know, and i think that is part of the problem. | i think that is part of the problem. his team would say it is not fair to judge him yet because yes, he has been a leaderfor a judge him yet because yes, he has been a leader for a year, judge him yet because yes, he has been a leaderfor a year, but it judge him yet because yes, he has been a leader for a year, but it has not been normal political times. he

came in, and we were a week away from the lockdown. i did an interview with haim... from the lockdown. i did an interview with haim. .. interview with haim... vicky, i am really sorry. _ interview with haim... vicky, i am really sorry. i _ interview with haim... vicky, i am really sorry. i am _ interview with haim... vicky, i am really sorry, i am going _ interview with haim... vicky, i am really sorry, i am going to - interview with haim. .. vicky, i am | really sorry, i am going to bridgend in north wales.— in north wales. declare the total number of _ in north wales. declare the total number of votes _ in north wales. declare the total number of votes was _ in north wales. declare the total number of votes was as - in north wales. declare the totall number of votes was as follows... lots of candidates in bridgend in south wales, they will dote through them all independent, 3046. stephen james black slow. _ them all independent, 3046. stephen james black slow. this _ them all independent, 3046. stephen james black slow. this is _ them all independent, 3046. stephen james black slow. this is to _ them all independent, 3046. stephen james black slow. this is to see - james black slow. this is to see whether the _ james black slow. this is to see whether the conservatives - james black slow. this is to see whether the conservatives and l james black slow. this is to see - whether the conservatives and labour would come on top. let's see. carol yvonne jones. _ would come on top. let's see. carol yvonne jones, independent, - would come on top. let's see.

to conservatives.— to conservatives. geraint david jones, to conservatives. geraint david jones. 232- _ harvey richard jones, democratic party, . .. harvey richard jones, democratic -a ,... ., ., , , party,... leanne elizabeth lewis, plaid cymru. _ party,... leanne elizabeth lewis, plaid cymru, the _ party,... leanne elizabeth lewis, plaid cymru, the party _ party,... leanne elizabeth lewis, plaid cymru, the party of - party,... leanne elizabeth lewis, plaid cymru, the party of wales, | plaid cymru, the party of wales, 3091. sarah murphy, welsh labour, 12,388.

that looks like a labour win, doesn't it? rachael nugent vein, welsh conservative party candidate, 8324. yes, welsh labour will be breathing a big sigh of relief because they have come in with a very strong performance and a pretty solid majority. performance and a pretty solid ma'ori . ., . ., majority. reform uk, changing olitics majority. reform uk, changing politics for— majority. reform uk, changing politics for good, _ majority. reform uk, changing politics for good, 534. - majority. reform uk, changing| politics for good, 534. christine and roach,... speaks welsh. therefore, i give public notice... lesson that i what has gone on there. i was telling you early about all these constituencies, basically, where lots of these old labour seats

went to the conservatives at the last election and the great nervousness for labour was that this would repeat itself. well, it doesn't seem to be happening, this is another seat which went conservative in the general, but conservative hopes of taking it have been dashed, and labour have held on. that is a pretty solid majority. ten out of 45% which is basically around the average turnout in wales for these senate elections. it is considerably lower than the uk general election.— considerably lower than the uk general election. less bloody msn. onl general election. less bloody msn. 0nly opportunity — general election. less bloody msn. 0nly opportunity i _ general election. less bloody msn. 0nly opportunity i get _ general election. less bloody msn. only opportunity i get to _ general election. less bloody msn. only opportunity i get to take - general election. less bloody msn. only opportunity i get to take my . 0nly opportunity i get to take my mask off on the day. i, andrew kerr, returning officerfor mask off on the day. i, andrew kerr, returning officer for the mask off on the day. i, andrew kerr, returning officerfor the edinburgh returning officer for the edinburgh central constituency, returning officerfor the edinburgh central constituency, declare that the total number of votes given to each candidate was as follows... bonnie prince bob, independent, 363.

scott douglas, scottish conservative and unionist party, 11,544. alison johnson, scottish green party, 3921. maddy kirkman, scottish labour party, 6839. tam laird, scottish libertarian party, 137. donald mackay, uk independence party, 78. angus robertson, scottish national party, 16,276. and bruce royal wilson, scottish

liberal democrats, 2555. i never give public notice that angus robertson is duly elected as a member of the scottish parliament for the edinburgh central constituency.— for the edinburgh central constituency. for the edinburgh central constituen . ., ., ., , constituency. so, that is a famous victo in constituency. so, that is a famous victory in edinburgh _ constituency. so, that is a famous victory in edinburgh central - constituency. so, that is a famous victory in edinburgh central for - constituency. so, that is a famous| victory in edinburgh central for the snp _ victory in edinburgh central for the snp that — victory in edinburgh central for the snp. that was ruth davidson's seat, it has— snp. that was ruth davidson's seat, it has now— snp. that was ruth davidson's seat, it has now been taken by angus robertson who were there snp leader at westminster, and is now most certainly— at westminster, and is now most certainly going to go into a job in the scottish parliament. he is a very— the scottish parliament. he is a very senior— the scottish parliament. he is a very senior figure in the snp and this is— very senior figure in the snp and this is a — very senior figure in the snp and this is a victory that was much wanted — this is a victory that was much wanted by— this is a victory that was much wanted by nicola sturgeon. let's take us— wanted by nicola sturgeon. let's take us through it now the details on that _ take us through it now the details on that. so, the snp with 39%, the conservatives 28%, labour had 16%, and the _ conservatives 28%, labour had 16%, and the greens on nine. let's look at the _ and the greens on nine. let's look at the change in the vote there. the snp have _ at the change in the vote there. the snp have put on 10%, the snp, down three. _ snp have put on 10%, the snp, down three, labour down six, the greens

down _ three, labour down six, the greens down % _ three, labour down six, the greens down % in— three, labour down six, the greens down 4%. in offence, you know, angus robertson— down 4%. in offence, you know, angus robertson hoovered up the green vote. _ robertson hoovered up the green vote. he — robertson hoovered up the green vote, he has deftly been the focus of this— vote, he has deftly been the focus of this election and the conservative snp swing is 6.6%. this is exactly— conservative snp swing is 6.6%. this is exactly what nicola sturgeon wanted — is exactly what nicola sturgeon wanted to see. she wanted to see angus— wanted to see. she wanted to see angus robertson, it was a very hard—fought seat, and he has made it. hard-fought seat, and he has made it. , ., , hard-fought seat, and he has made it. joanna cherry expressed an interest in _ it. joanna cherry expressed an interest in being _ it. joanna cherry expressed an interest in being a _ it. joanna cherry expressed an interest in being a candidate i it. joanna cherry expressed an - interest in being a candidate there. angus robertson will be a big figure in the neck scottish parliament and it is striking how impressive this victory is. there were very strong personal vote for her last time around but this is where that tactical vote, which has worked so well for the conservatives in hoovering up the other prounion party support hasn't really worked at all here. if you add the labour vote to the conservative vote, it comes, it doesjust vote to the conservative vote, it comes, it does just get over angus robertson's 16,000 comes, it does just get over angus

robertson's16,000 something. but both parties are along, even at every labour voter had voted conservative, they would only have just beaten anderson —— and is robertson so it is a very strong wind vane. robertson so it is a very strong wind vane-— robertson so it is a very strong wind vane. , ., ., ~ robertson so it is a very strong wind vane. , ., ., ,, ., wind vane. they have taken three of those targets- _ wind vane. they have taken three of those targets. if— wind vane. they have taken three of those targets. if they _ wind vane. they have taken three of those targets. if they do _ wind vane. they have taken three of those targets. if they do take - wind vane. they have taken three of those targets. if they do take the i those targets. if they do take the other two votes, they are heading for a majority. other two votes, they are heading for a majority-— for a ma'ority. they could well... this for a majority. they could well... this could _ for a majority. they could well... this could be _ for a majority. they could well... this could be their— for a majority. they could well... this could be their route - for a majority. they could well... this could be their route to i for a majority. they could well... this could be their route to a i this could be their route to a majority indeed. we have to look what happens. the snp had fought list msps, they are not certain to be re—elected. it very much depends where in the country the gains are. but here, this is a net gain because wet edinburgh central is, they don't have list mps. similar to dumbarton, they don't have snp to the west the country. they don't have snp to the west the count . �* . . they don't have snp to the west the count . �* , , . ., country. let's be quite clear here, antus country. let's be quite clear here, angus robertson _ country. let's be quite clear here, angus robertson is _ country. let's be quite clear here, angus robertson is a _ country. let's be quite clear here, angus robertson is a very - angus robertson is a very influential person in the party. he

is somebody who can be relied on to do a very seniorjob is gone. and he is loyal to nicola sturgeon, strongly supportive of her, very experienced and highly regarded, and many see him as a future first minister. . .. many see him as a future first minister. ., ,, , ., many see him as a future first minister. ., ,, ,, ~ , many see him as a future first minister. ., ,, ~ , ., minister. thank you. always good to hear from allan, _ minister. thank you. always good to hear from allan, thanks _ minister. thank you. always good to hear from allan, thanks very - minister. thank you. always good to hear from allan, thanks very much. | hear from allan, thanks very much. it is 7pm. this is obviously our continuing coverage of the elections in england, wales and scotland. we have been on air since 9am, and we have been on air since 9am, and we have had some notable results which we have talked about. there are lots more results to come in, in fact it will stretch into tomorrow, some of them into sunday. if things are going very slowly, some of them into monday. but those will be just a few drips and drabs by the end. today and tomorrow will be most of them coming in, and we should get quite a few before we come off air tonight in about three hours' time. plenty to stay for, we willjust take a

little break and join sean for the news. good evening. the conservatives are celebrating a major victory in the hartlepool by—election with the prime minister borisjohnson by—election with the prime minister boris johnson saying by—election with the prime minister borisjohnson saying the result is a mandate to continue to deliver, not just for the north—east of england, but the whole country. the labour party's vote but the whole country. the labour pa rty�*s vote fell by 9% in but the whole country. the labour party's vote fell by 9% in the first electoral test for its leader sir keir starmer. 0ur political correspondent, damian grammaticas reports. the borisjohnson, the boris johnson, this the borisjohnson, this was a another labour stronghold demolished. he was the first conservative mp to represent hartlepool in 57 years. if conservative mp to represent hartlepool in 57 years. if there is a lesson out _ hartlepool in 57 years. if there is a lesson out of— hartlepool in 57 years. if there is a lesson out of this _ hartlepool in 57 years. if there is a lesson out of this whole i hartlepool in 57 years. if there is l a lesson out of this whole election campaign, the whole election across the whole of the uk, it is that the public want politicians to get on with focusing on their knees and their priorities. bud with focusing on their knees and their priorities.—

their priorities. and the region delivered another _ their priorities. and the region delivered another bitter i their priorities. and the region delivered another bitter blow. their priorities. and the region l delivered another bitter blow for labour, its candidate for tees valley mayor was soundly beaten too. the conservative incumbent returned with more than 70% of the vote. in council elections, conservatives took control of nuneaton and bedworth in the west midlands and basildon in essex. glum labourfaces as harlow in essex went to the tories, and doubling in the west midlands too. i tories, and doubling in the west midlands too.— midlands too. i am bitterly disappointed _ midlands too. i am bitterly disappointed in _ midlands too. i am bitterly disappointed in the - midlands too. i am bitterly disappointed in the result, j midlands too. i am bitterly i disappointed in the result, and i take full responsibility for the results. and i will take full responsibility for fixing things. we have changed as a party, but we have not set out a strong enough case to the country. the not set out a strong enough case to the country-— the country. the greens have been -tickin u- the country. the greens have been picking up seats. _ the country. the greens have been picking up seats, hear _ the country. the greens have been picking up seats, hear from - the country. the greens have been picking up seats, hear from labour picking up seats, hearfrom labour in sheffield. picking up seats, hear from labour in sheffield-— in sheffield. well done, fantastic! the liberal _ in sheffield. well done, fantastic! the liberal democrats _ in sheffield. well done, fantastic! the liberal democrats from i in sheffield. well done, fantastic! the liberal democrats from the l the liberal democrats from the conservatives in cambridgeshire. in the welsh parliament election, labour has lost the vale of clwyd to

the conservatives but held on elsewhere. scotland's parliament is where the result could be the most consequential, the snp has taken it there. the question here — cannot nicola sturgeon get an overall majority and plan to use it to push for independence? i am extremely ha - for independence? i am extremely ha-- and for independence? i am extremely happy and extremely _ for independence? i am extremely happy and extremely confident i for independence? i am extremely| happy and extremely confident that we are on track in the snp for a fourth consecutive election victory. and to have the ability to form a government again, that is an extraordinary achievement for any political party. extraordinary achievement for any political party-— political party. north and south of the border. _ political party. north and south of the border, the _ political party. north and south of the border, the final— political party. north and south of the border, the final shape i political party. north and south of the border, the final shape of- the border, the final shape of things will only be clear over the weekend. what happens in scotland could take some of the wind out of boris johnson's could take some of the wind out of borisjohnson's balloons. damian grammaticas, bbc news. in other news this evening, portugal, gibraltar and israel are among 12 countries which people in england would be able to travel to from the 17th of may, without having to quarantine on their return home. popular destinations such as spain, france and italy are not yet on what is

called the greenest, which means there are minimum requirements for travellers. the transport secretary said the list will be expanded but only when it is safe to do so. the si . ns only when it is safe to do so. the signs overseas — only when it is safe to do so. the signs overseas are _ only when it is safe to do so. t1e: signs overseas are now only when it is safe to do so. tue: signs overseas are now more promising as a result of their vaccination programme is beginning to crank up. and as the summer progresses, we hope that more traditional tourist destinations will be unlocked. but we have to turn the key slowly, and greenest countries will be placed on a watch list if they start to have any concerns. and if it is necessary because of a new upswing in cases or a new variant, we will not hesitate to act fast and withdraw green status. , ., to act fast and withdraw green status. i ., ., ., status. the joint committee on vaccination _ status. the joint committee on vaccination and _ status. the joint committee on vaccination and immunisation l status. the joint committee on i vaccination and immunisation has recommended that people under the age of a0 should be offered an alternative faxing to the astrazeneca jab after concerns about blood clots. the issues being raised as a precautionary measure england's

deputy chief medical officer says the uk is still on course to give every adult at least one coronavirus vaccine dosed by the end ofjuly. police in kent are appealing to the public to help identify a man who was a scene close to whether police committee support officerjulia james was killed. they have released this photograph of the man that was taken in kent today after 53—year—old died. julia was found deadin 53—year—old died. julia was found dead in a woodland near her home ten days ago. a postmortem revealed she died from significant head injuries. the election results will keep coming in over the next few days. the live coverage of those results and expert analysis on what they mean for you, do visit our website or of course used the bbc news app. that is it from me until the top of 8pm. back to election 2021.

welcome back to the bbc�*s election coverage with me and kirsty. we are keeping an eye on all of these results coming in, we will cross england scotland and wales. we will see some significant results already. kirsty, just going back there to angus robertson being elected at the in edinburgh, ijust thought, well, there is a big political beast who will be taking his place in the scottish parliament. a, his place in the scottish parliament.— his place in the scottish parliament. �* , , parliament. a very big political beast, parliament. a very big political beast. and _ parliament. a very big political beast, and as _ parliament. a very big political beast, and as alan _ parliament. a very big political beast, and as alan was - parliament. a very big political beast, and as alan wasjust - parliament. a very big political- beast, and as alan wasjust saying, beast, and as alan was just saying, very close to nicola sturgeon, very much on her wing of the party. very much on her wing of the party. very much in tune with her and her attitude towards the progression towards an independence referendum. there is no doubt that she is going to want him closely by her side in the scottish parliament. he will come in that i imagine he will go straight into a very big job in the parliament. that is a very big, it was actually a terrific majority in

edinburgh central. obviously ruth davidson a hard act to follow, no particular recognition for her successor. and yet everybody does know angus robertson because he was the snp leader at westminster. on that point of view, this is a very significant moment for nicola sturgeon. what we are also waiting for tonight as dumbarton, which is the one with the littlest majority, 109 in scotland. and he will get that before 9pm, we understand. and when that comes in, and we will be even clearer about the snp's trajectory. right now, there has been quite a lot happening, so i want to bring in david wallace lockett to get us up to speed, where are we? �* ., , lockett to get us up to speed, where are we? �* . , ., ~ , are we? after that result from angus robertson, here _ are we? after that result from angus robertson, here are _ are we? after that result from angus robertson, here are the _ are we? after that result from angus robertson, here are the number- are we? after that result from angus robertson, here are the number of. robertson, here are the number of seats_ robertson, here are the number of seats we _ robertson, here are the number of seats we are currently sitting on in scotland~ — seats we are currently sitting on in scotland. the snp on 35, lib dems fourth _ scotland. the snp on 35, lib dems fourth. they will have none and the

greens_ fourth. they will have none and the greens have — fourth. they will have none and the greens have none. let's remember the conservative, _ greens have none. let's remember the conservative, labour and greens are expected _ conservative, labour and greens are expected to — conservative, labour and greens are expected to pick up the majority of their seats — expected to pick up the majority of their seats when the regional list results _ their seats when the regional list results are announced tomorrow. three _ results are announced tomorrow. three seats have changed hands so far, three seats have changed hands so far. east _ three seats have changed hands so far, east lothian if we remember is one of— far, east lothian if we remember is one of them — far, east lothian if we remember is one of them. the snp took it with a majority— one of them. the snp took it with a majority of— one of them. the snp took it with a majority ofjust over 1100 votes. it is a game — majority ofjust over 1100 votes. it is a game from labour. if you look at the _ is a game from labour. if you look at the share — is a game from labour. if you look at the share of those votes, those who oppose independence have potentially split between the conservatives and labour, allowing the snp _ conservatives and labour, allowing the snp to— conservatives and labour, allowing the snp to make that again. let's cross— the snp to make that again. let's cross now— the snp to make that again. let's cross now to the other side of scotland _ cross now to the other side of scotland to ayr. the former conservative mspjohn scotland to ayr. the former conservative msp john scott scotland to ayr. the former conservative mspjohn scott had held the seat _ conservative mspjohn scott had held the seat for 20 years. the snp has taken _ the seat for 20 years. the snp has taken it— the seat for 20 years. the snp has taken it with a slim majority of 170 votes. _ taken it with a slim majority of 170 votes, another key game for the snp along _ votes, another key game for the snp along with _ votes, another key game for the snp along with edinburgh central. let's look at _ along with edinburgh central. let's look at an— along with edinburgh central. let's look at an example of what might have treen— look at an example of what might have been tactical voting, edinburgh west _ have been tactical voting, edinburgh west they— have been tactical voting, edinburgh west. they held with a big increase in the _ west. they held with a big increase in the majority, up to 10,000 votes now~ _ in the majority, up to 10,000 votes now what — in the majority, up to 10,000 votes now what is —

in the majority, up to 10,000 votes now. what is interesting is to look at the _ now. what is interesting is to look at the vote — now. what is interesting is to look at the vote change. the conservative vote is _ at the vote change. the conservative vote is down — at the vote change. the conservative vote is down a lot. labour is slightly— vote is down a lot. labour is slightly down. so did the supporters of these _ slightly down. so did the supporters of these parties back the lib dems as the _ of these parties back the lib dems as the party best placed to beat the snp? _ as the party best placed to beat the snp? we _ as the party best placed to beat the snp? we can have a look at our map which _ snp? we can have a look at our map which shows— snp? we can have a look at our map which shows every constituency in scotland — which shows every constituency in scotland the same size. a1 seats fitted _ scotland the same size. a1 seats filled insofar, three have changed hands, _ filled insofar, three have changed hands, three seats which could be crucial— hands, three seats which could be crucial in — hands, three seats which could be crucial in the party was an outright snp majority. strong performances still needed for that one, we will have _ still needed for that one, we will have to — still needed for that one, we will have to wait until tomorrow to completely see this picture and to -et completely see this picture and to get the _ completely see this picture and to get the regional list seat results. thank— get the regional list seat results. thank you — get the regional list seat results. thank you very much. a quick one, the ayr new msp is head of the ayr tourist board, that is a pretty good job if you want to be msp, you get to know everybody and use say good things about the town. and that is getting a very local candidate. that is a remarkable _ getting a very local candidate. that is a remarkable result actually for the conservatives who have held that seat for _ the conservatives who have held that seat for such a long time to lose it now _ seat for such a long time to lose it now these —

seat for such a long time to lose it now. these margins are tiny, these are just _ now. these margins are tiny, these are just literally hundreds of people — are just literally hundreds of people deciding whether there will be an— people deciding whether there will be an snp overall majority in the next _ be an snp overall majority in the next scottish parliament. i am very struck— next scottish parliament. i am very struck by— next scottish parliament. i am very struck by how tight some of these races _ struck by how tight some of these races are — struck by how tight some of these races are. despite the big movements between _ races are. despite the big movements between the unionist parties, edinburgh west result is a very telling — edinburgh west result is a very telling one, clearly many labour and conservative party supporters voted for the _ conservative party supporters voted for the lib— conservative party supporters voted for the lib dem candidate to keep the snp _ for the lib dem candidate to keep the snp out. that is of the great feature — the snp out. that is of the great feature of— the snp out. that is of the great feature of this election, i think, the discipline shown by the unionist parties _ the discipline shown by the unionist arties. �* , .,, the discipline shown by the unionist arties. . , .,, ., the discipline shown by the unionist arties. . , ., , , parties. and people doing their sums very carefully- _ parties. and people doing their sums very carefully. yes, _ parties. and people doing their sums very carefully. yes, it _ parties. and people doing their sums very carefully. yes, it reveals - very carefully. yes, it reveals uuite a very carefully. yes, it reveals quite a strong _ very carefully. yes, it reveals quite a strong level— very carefully. yes, it reveals quite a strong level of- quite a strong level of psychological knowledge among the electorate. they do seem to know which _ electorate. they do seem to know which candidate is most likely to keep— which candidate is most likely to keep the — which candidate is most likely to keep the snp candidate out in these constituencies, very striking. it will be — constituencies, very striking. it will be interesting to drill into some — will be interesting to drill into some of— will be interesting to drill into some of those numbers later. let�*s some of those numbers later. let's co some of those numbers later. let's to back some of those numbers later. let's go back to — some of those numbers later. let's go back to dumbarton, _ some of those numbers later. let's go back to dumbarton, a _

some of those numbers later. let�*s go back to dumbarton, a majority of 109. likejohn scott conservative who has just been ousted ayr, jackie baillie has been the since 1999. she has been a stalwart of the labour party, she was deputy leader, she has got them out of lots of fixes. but it might be all over for her has got them out of lots of fixes. but it might be all overfor her in terms of the constituency tonight. one of the longest serving, in that since _ one of the longest serving, in that since the _ one of the longest serving, in that since the beginning. she is a strong constituency mp, i was there interviewing her only a few weeks a-o. interviewing her only a few weeks ago. constituents approach and interrupted our interview, and she had stopped the interview to deal with the _ had stopped the interview to deal with the constituents' concerns or stop when — with the constituents' concerns or stop when you have a majority of 109. _ stop when you have a majority of 109. that — stop when you have a majority of 109. that is — stop when you have a majority of 109, that is what you do. we stop when you have a ma'ority of 109, that is what you do._ stop when you have a ma'ority of 109, that is what you do. we will be 'oined now 109, that is what you do. we will be joined now by _ 109, that is what you do. we will be joined now by angus _ 109, that is what you do. we will be joined now by angus robertson, - 109, that is what you do. we will be j joined now by angus robertson, the new snp msp for edinburgh central. congratulations. you are now returned, as it were, to a position, un leader at westminster. he will now be by nicola sturgeon's side in

scottish parliament. what is the key thing that you have to do in that regard? thing that you have to do in that reaard? ~ ., , thing that you have to do in that retard? ., , , ., , thing that you have to do in that reaard? ., , , ., regard? when as many seats as we can in the election- — regard? when as many seats as we can in the election. we _ regard? when as many seats as we can in the election. we are _ regard? when as many seats as we can in the election. we are not _ regard? when as many seats as we can in the election. we are not even - in the election. we are not even have _ in the election. we are not even have to — in the election. we are not even have to wade through, but i observe that the _ have to wade through, but i observe that the snp is gaining seats after three _ that the snp is gaining seats after three terms in government. and now heading _ three terms in government. and now heading towards a fourth term in government. i think i any neutral assessment, comparing scotland with other normal european countries, it is a remarkable achievement that the snp has _ is a remarkable achievement that the snp has so _ is a remarkable achievement that the snp has so far been polling so strongly— snp has so far been polling so strongly and winning additional seats~ — strongly and winning additional seats~ in— strongly and winning additional seats. in an essential, it is the trest— seats. in an essential, it is the best result _ seats. in an essential, it is the best result at the snp has ever had, and we _ best result at the snp has ever had, and we have — best result at the snp has ever had, and we have of course just won, just gained _ and we have of course just won, just gained the _ and we have of course just won, just gained the seat that was held by the leader— gained the seat that was held by the leader of— gained the seat that was held by the leader of the scottish conservative party. _ leader of the scottish conservative party, ruth davidson. what leader of the scottish conservative party, ruth davidson.— leader of the scottish conservative party, ruth davidson. what do you think has changed _ party, ruth davidson. what do you think has changed since _ party, ruth davidson. what do you think has changed since you - party, ruth davidson. what do you think has changed since you lost i think has changed since you lost murray in 2017? what has changed? the brexit result is the biggest single — the brexit result is the biggest single factor that has impacted on people's— single factor that has impacted on people's thinking, and that was especially the case in edinburgh centrat —

especially the case in edinburgh central. edinburgh is a strong pro—european part of scotland and scotland _ pro—european part of scotland and scotland voted by 62% to remain in the eu _ scotland voted by 62% to remain in the eu we — scotland voted by 62% to remain in the eu. we have been taken out against — the eu. we have been taken out against our democratic well. this has had — against our democratic well. this has had a — against our democratic well. this has had a huge impact for a lot of people _ has had a huge impact for a lot of people and — has had a huge impact for a lot of people and is one of the reasons why the snp _ people and is one of the reasons why the snp vote went up so heavily in edinburgh — the snp vote went up so heavily in edinburgh central. we were the strong — edinburgh central. we were the strong pro—european party, and people _ strong pro—european party, and people wanted to vote for a pro—european party. we also wants to vote for— pro—european party. we also wants to vote for a — pro—european party. we also wants to vote for a party that trust people to have — vote for a party that trust people to have a — vote for a party that trust people to have a democratic state in the country's — to have a democratic state in the country's future, and that is exactly _ country's future, and that is exactly what will happen if the snp wins this— exactly what will happen if the snp wins this election.— wins this election. nicola sturgeon has repeatedly _ wins this election. nicola sturgeon has repeatedly said _ wins this election. nicola sturgeon has repeatedly said that _ wins this election. nicola sturgeon has repeatedly said that she - wins this election. nicola sturgeon has repeatedly said that she will. wins this election. nicola sturgeon | has repeatedly said that she will be back at her desk on monday morning dealing with the pandemic and its after effects, because that is the principal focus. after effects, because that is the principalfocus. she is assiduously not talking about indyref2, presumably as you move forward now, that will be very much front and centre your thinking? you that will be very much front and centre your thinking?— that will be very much front and centre your thinking? you are quite riaht, centre your thinking? you are quite right. nicola _ centre your thinking? you are quite right, nicola sturgeon, _ centre your thinking? you are quite right, nicola sturgeon, the - centre your thinking? you are quite right, nicola sturgeon, the snp's l right, nicola sturgeon, the snp's first priority is dealing with the

pandemic as it faces all of us around — pandemic as it faces all of us around the world. we need to make sure that _ around the world. we need to make sure that the scottish parliament has the _ sure that the scottish parliament has the appropriate powers of a normal— has the appropriate powers of a normal country as we emerge from the pandemic— normal country as we emerge from the pandemic to _ normal country as we emerge from the pandemic to be able to make the best possible _ pandemic to be able to make the best possible decisions for the economic recovery— possible decisions for the economic recovery and dealing with public health _ recovery and dealing with public health and restoring our links with the european union. in this parliamentary term, we will be doing both of— parliamentary term, we will be doing both of these things. we do have to live in— both of these things. we do have to live in a _ both of these things. we do have to live in a democracy, so given that people _ live in a democracy, so given that people are — live in a democracy, so given that people are voting resoundingly snp candidates, the snp forms a government in the scottish parliament, it is for that democratic which of the people to be respected _ democratic which of the people to be respected by everybody. — we do after _ respected by everybody. — we do after all — respected by everybody. — we do after all live in a democracy. 60% after all live in a democracy. 6096 voted no. — after all live in a democracy. 6096 voted no, different— after all live in a democracy. 6096 voted no, different to _ after all live in a democracy. 515196 voted no, different to the other side of the country.— voted no, different to the other side of the country. sorry, are you sa inc side of the country. sorry, are you sa in: it side of the country. sorry, are you saying it has _ side of the country. sorry, are you saying it has all — side of the country. sorry, are you saying it has all the _ side of the country. sorry, are you saying it has all the more - saying it has all the more remarkable that the snp hasjust saying it has all the more remarkable that the snp has just won in edinburgh central? i think you're right _ in edinburgh central? i think you're riuht. ~ ., �* in edinburgh central? i think you're riuht.~ . �* ., ., in edinburgh central? i think you're riuht. . �* ., ., �* right. what i'm saying and what i'm

lookin: right. what i'm saying and what i'm looking forward _ right. what i'm saying and what i'm looking forward to... _ right. what i'm saying and what i'm looking forward to... sorry. - right. what i'm saying and what i'm looking forward to... sorry. i- right. what i'm saying and what i'm looking forward to... sorry. i think| looking forward to... sorry. i think the coalition of yes voters is changing, isn't it? i think what you have got in edinburgh in the referendum and independence, the first referendum, 60% in edinburgh voted against. there will you have to shift the diver may be the dow has a ready shifted in edinburgh, it would be suggested, because of the whole eu brexit vote?— whole eu brexit vote? indeed, the snp would not _ whole eu brexit vote? indeed, the snp would not be _ whole eu brexit vote? indeed, the snp would not be winning - whole eu brexit vote? indeed, the snp would not be winning an - snp would not be winning an essential if you weren't already changing — essential if you weren't already changing their minds. we have gone up changing their minds. we have gone up from _ changing their minds. we have gone up from about 10,000 in the last scottish— up from about 10,000 in the last scottish parliament elections to more _ scottish parliament elections to more than 16,000. that is quite a jump _ more than 16,000. that is quite a 'um -. ~ ., more than 16,000. that is quite a 'um . _ . ., ., more than 16,000. that is quite a 'um.~ . ., , more than 16,000. that is quite a jump. we will have to stop you there, jump. we will have to stop you there. we _ jump. we will have to stop you there, we are _ jump. we will have to stop you there, we are going _ jump. we will have to stop you there, we are going to - jump. we will have to stop you there, we are going to a - there, we are going to a declaration. sorry to stop you. not quite yet but apologies for cutting across angus robertson there. the count is not quite there for us, it will happen quite soon but we will come back to it in a moment. it will be edinburgh southern when we get there but it is

not quite yet. while we wait for that, what i would like to do, and again there will be people joining us at this stage because they've been out at work and doing stuff all day, which is perfectly understandable, just to bring you up to date, we have been alluding to the snp's strong performance in many areas of scotland, the welsh labour party's strong performers in parts of wales. so, let's look at the situation at local authorities in england because there are 1a3 local authorities in the local election, not all of them all out elections, as we say, where every member is up for election, some of them by halves and some of them by thirds, so it is and some of them by thirds, so it is a bit of a mixed bag. but we still see certain clear trends. rita, tell us what is of interest here. this is where we are. _ us what is of interest here. this is where we are, we _ us what is of interest here. this is where we are, we have _ us what is of interest here. this is where we are, we have had - us what is of interest here. this is where we are, we have had 59 - us what is of interest here. this is where we are, we have had 59 ofl

us what is of interest here. this is i where we are, we have had 59 of the 1a3 councils declared and this is what the scoreboard shows. the conservatives have 26 councils, they have gained eight and lost one, labour has 25, it has gained nine and lost for and not too much change for the other parties and some of them remain hung. if we take a look at how that translates into councillors, you can see there is a certain amount of churn there. the conservatives have gained 159 councillors and labour has lost 167. a variety of councils have been up for election this time around. let's see if my screen will cooperate with me here. let's try that again. am i not going to have any luck? i was wanting to show you some of the councils which have changed hands. i'll give it one more go. there we go. and then try it here. i'm afraid

it's not going to work. i go. and then try it here. i'm afraid it's not going to work.— it's not going to work. i don't envy -- envy you _ it's not going to work. i don't envy -- envy you at _ it's not going to work. i don't envy -- envy you at all— it's not going to work. i don't envy -- envy you at all with _ it's not going to work. i don't envy -- envy you at all with that - it's not going to work. i don't envy | -- envy you at all with that screen. —— envy you at all with that screen. i would lose my patience, you've done brilliantly. i'm just thinking, 0k, done brilliantly. i'm just thinking, ok, local authorities, done brilliantly. i'm just thinking, ok, localauthorities, i understand in cornwall, there has been a conservative gain, but we are going to go to edinburgh southern. let's go to that declaration. well, i rushed into that but they are not quite ready yet but edinburgh southern is the one we're looking at. currently or at held by labour... at. currently or at held by labour- - -_ at. currently or at held by labour... ., ., , ., . ., labour... can i have your attention, lease. labour... can i have your attention, please- the — labour... can i have your attention, please. the next _ labour... can i have your attention, please. the next constituency - please. the next constituency declaration, _ please. the next constituency declaration, i, _ please. the next constituency declaration, i, andrew- please. the next constituency declaration, i, andrew kerr, i please. the next constituency. declaration, i, andrew kerr, the returning — declaration, i, andrew kerr, the returning officer— declaration, i, andrew kerr, the returning officer for— declaration, i, andrew kerr, the returning officer for edinburgh l returning officer for edinburgh southern _ returning officer for edinburgh southern constituency - returning officer for edinburgh southern constituency declare j returning officer for edinburgh - southern constituency declare the total number— southern constituency declare the total number of— southern constituency declare the total number of votes _ southern constituency declare the total number of votes for- southern constituency declare the total number of votes for each - total number of votes for each candidate _ total number of votes for each candidate was— total number of votes for each candidate was as _ total number of votes for each candidate was as follows... i

total number of votes for each i candidate was as follows... miles briggs. _ candidate was as follows... miles briggs. scottish— candidate was as follows... miles briggs, scottish conservative - candidate was as follows... miles briggs, scottish conservative and unionist — briggs, scottish conservative and unionist party. _ briggs, scottish conservative and unionist party, 5258. _ briggs, scottish conservative and unionist party, 5258. philip - briggs, scottish conservative and . unionist party, 5258. philip holden, scottish— unionist party, 5258. philip holden, scottish family _ unionist party, 5258. philip holden, scottish family party, _ unionist party, 5258. philip holden, scottish family party, 317. _ unionist party, 5258. philip holden, scottish family party, 317. daniel. scottish family party, 317. daniel johnson, — scottish family party, 317. daniel johnson, scottish— scottish family party, 317. daniel johnson, scottish labour- scottish family party, 317. daniel johnson, scottish labour party. scottish family party, 317. daniel. johnson, scottish labour party and scottish— johnson, scottish labour party and scottish co—operative _ johnson, scottish labour party and scottish co—operative party, - johnson, scottish labour party and . scottish co—operative party, 20,760. katrina _ scottish co—operative party, 20,760. katrina mcdonald, _ scottish co—operative party, 20,760. katrina mcdonald, scottish _ katrina mcdonald, scottish nationalist _ katrina mcdonald, scottish nationalist party, - katrina mcdonald, scottish nationalist party, 16,738. i katrina mcdonald, scottish i nationalist party, 16,738. and katrina mcdonald, scottish - nationalist party, 16,738. and fred mcintosh. — nationalist party, 16,738. and fred mcintosh, scottish _ nationalist party, 16,738. and fred mcintosh, scottish liberal- mcintosh, scottish liberal democrats. _ mcintosh, scottish liberal democrats, 2189. - mcintosh, scottish liberal. democrats, 2189. therefore, mcintosh, scottish liberal- democrats, 2189. therefore, i give public— democrats, 2189. therefore, i give public notice — democrats, 2189. therefore, i give public notice that _ democrats, 2189. therefore, i give public notice that daniel— democrats, 2189. therefore, i give public notice that danieljohnson, i public notice that danieljohnson, scottish— public notice that danieljohnson, scottish labour— public notice that danieljohnson, scottish labour party _ public notice that danieljohnson, scottish labour party and - public notice that danieljohnson,| scottish labour party and scottish co-operative _ scottish labour party and scottish co—operative party, _ scottish labour party and scottish co—operative party, is _ scottish labour party and scottish co—operative party, is duly- scottish labour party and scottishl co—operative party, is duly elected as a member— co—operative party, is duly elected as a memberfor_ co—operative party, is duly elected as a member for the _ co—operative party, is duly elected as a member for the edinburgh - as a memberforthe edinburgh southern — as a memberforthe edinburgh southern constituency. - as a memberforthe edinburgh southern constituency. so, - as a member for the edinburgh southern constituency. so, labour has held onto _ southern constituency. so, labour has held onto that _ southern constituency. so, labour has held onto that seat _ southern constituency. so, labour has held onto that seat in - southern constituency. so, labour. has held onto that seat in edinburgh southern and that is the area that has returned the only labour mp.

let's take a look at how that election panned out. in terms of share of the vote, we had there that labour had a5%, snp had 37%, conservative 12%, liberal democrat 5%, and the change in the share of the vote, labour actually dropped ten percentage points, snp put on a%, but the conservatives lost 1a%. so, the snp to labour swing is three percentage points. just coming to you, alan, on that. it was pretty certain that actually they would hang on, labour would hang on in that area, they are quite strong in edinburgh southern. thea;r that area, they are quite strong in edinburgh southern.— that area, they are quite strong in edinburgh southern. they are, the eo - le's edinburgh southern. they are, the people's republic— edinburgh southern. they are, the people's republic of _ edinburgh southern. they are, the people's republic of morningside, | people's republic of morningside, traditionally, historically, it was a solid — traditionally, historically, it was a solid conservative seat. what we see here _ a solid conservative seat. what we see here with the collapse of the conservative vote, down to 5000. if

you had _ conservative vote, down to 5000. if you had said — conservative vote, down to 5000. if you had said that 30 years ago... but if— you had said that 30 years ago... but if you — you had said that 30 years ago... but if you said 20 years ago that labour would have won at westminster, you wouldn't have believed it. westminster, you wouldn't have believed it— westminster, you wouldn't have believed it. exactly. clearly, lots of natural conservative - believed it. exactly. clearly, lots of natural conservative voters i of natural conservative voters backing — of natural conservative voters backing the labour candidate dared to keep _ backing the labour candidate dared to keep the nationalists. a very hi-h to keep the nationalists. a very high level— to keep the nationalists. a very high level of technical knowledge and tactical voting. so, high level of technical knowledge and tactical voting.— high level of technical knowledge and tactical voting. so, what we are lookin: at and tactical voting. so, what we are looking at now. _ and tactical voting. so, what we are looking at now, the _ and tactical voting. so, what we are looking at now, the key _ and tactical voting. so, what we are looking at now, the key things - and tactical voting. so, what we are looking at now, the key things to i looking at now, the key things to looking at now, the key things to look at tonight are going to be dumbarton, and eastwood. because of the snp take dumbarton and eastwood, and then we have to factor in the list, that puts them in a very strong position heading towards, not getting but getting a majority. —— not getting but heading towards. they already have one gaining edinburgh central, they have also talk in _ edinburgh central, they have also talk in east lothian, they are games as well, _ talk in east lothian, they are games as well, though they might lose list

as well, though they might lose list as a result — as well, though they might lose list as a result of gaining them but if they went — as a result of gaining them but if they went dumbarton and eastwood, that is— they went dumbarton and eastwood, that is their route to an overall manrity~ — that is their route to an overall majority. this is not supposed to happen— majority. this is not supposed to happen in— majority. this is not supposed to happen in this parliament. the electoral— happen in this parliament. the electoral system is designed to almost — electoral system is designed to almost make it unthinkable that a single _ almost make it unthinkable that a single party could hold this majority. single party could hold this ma'ori . �* single party could hold this ma'ori . . ., , single party could hold this ma'ori . . ., ., , , . ma'ority. and it has happened twice. in majority. and it has happened twice. in 2011, majority. and it has happened twice. in 2011, that _ majority. and it has happened twice. in 2011, that led — majority. and it has happened twice. in 2011, that led directly _ majority. and it has happened twice. in 2011, that led directly to _ majority. and it has happened twice. in 2011, that led directly to the - in 2011, that led directly to the first referendum on scottish independence. indeed. the no vote was 55, and the yes vote was a5, so we are in that territory again because it looks like, on the strength of this result so far, they are going to be looking for another referendum, either with the help of the greens are without. and referendum, either with the help of the greens are without.— the greens are without. and that is the greens are without. and that is the other factor, _ the greens are without. and that is the other factor, how _ the greens are without. and that is the other factor, how strong - the greens are without. and that is the other factor, how strong will i the other factor, how strong will the other factor, how strong will the greens be, and will the greens surge _ the greens be, and will the greens surge deprive the snp of more of their four— surge deprive the snp of more of their four list msps? the list is very— their four list msps? the list is very unreadable. the concept is making — very unreadable. the concept is making a — very unreadable. the concept is making a bet rate song and dance

about _ making a bet rate song and dance about the — making a bet rate song and dance about the so—called peach paper, that is— about the so—called peach paper, that is very— about the so—called peach paper, that is very un—callable in this election. _ that is very un—callable in this election. it— that is very un—callable in this election, it is very hard to tell. it election, it is very hard to tell. it is _ election, it is very hard to tell. it is crucial _ election, it is very hard to tell. it is crucial for snp msp seats from the list _ it is crucial for snp msp seats from the list. , ., the list. interesting, though, we talk regularly — the list. interesting, though, we talk regularly in _ the list. interesting, though, we talk regularly in politics - the list. interesting, though, we talk regularly in politics about. talk regularly in politics about people landing other people their votes for a particular purpose but actually when that sometimes happens, it ends up being entrenched, they end up having a different picture because of that. we are seeing that all over the country. — we are seeing that all over the country, north and south of the border, — country, north and south of the border, traditional, tribal loyalties were broken, first by the independence referendum in scotland and then— independence referendum in scotland and then by brexit. once somebody has broken — and then by brexit. once somebody has broken with tradition... when i was working — has broken with tradition... when i was working in the red wall in the run-up— was working in the red wall in the run-up to — was working in the red wall in the run—up to the 2019 general election, if i run—up to the 2019 general election, if i had _ run—up to the 2019 general election, if i had this— run—up to the 2019 general election, if i had this phrase once, i heard it a hundred _ if i had this phrase once, i heard it a hundred times, my father would turn in _ it a hundred times, my father would turn in his— it a hundred times, my father would turn in his grave. the generation that voted — turn in his grave. the generation that voted labour work for the first time not _

that voted labour work for the first time not going to vote labour and what _ time not going to vote labour and what they— time not going to vote labour and what they have done that... as they have done it — what they have done that... as they have done it and _ what they have done that... as they have done it and then _ what they have done that. .. as they have done it and then saw— what they have done that... as they have done it and then saw through i have done it and then saw through the town's funds, they saw the benefit of that, maybe they got to buy their house, maybe they got to put their children into a new primary school, once they see the actual result of voting like that, however much labour would say the local authority have been denuded and libraries have closed and libraries have closed and sport centres have close, once they have voted like that, they are less likely to return to their old ways. where they say we don't count the votes. _ where they say we don't count the votes. we — where they say we don't count the votes, we weigh them. find where they say we don't count the votes, we weigh them.— votes, we weigh them. and that roblem votes, we weigh them. and that problem outweighing _ votes, we weigh them. and that problem outweighing it - votes, we weigh them. and that problem outweighing it leads i votes, we weigh them. and that problem outweighing it leads to| problem outweighing it leads to another thought about labour in scotland, which has been a problem for labour the last 15 years has been the complacency that followed the 1997 general election and the establishment of the scottish parliament. two things there, the first was that george robertson, one of the most famous things he ever said, was devolution will kill

nationalism stone dead, the problem with that was a letter complacency among rank and file who went up to westminster, in and out every week, and more often stayed in westminster and more often stayed in westminster and did not know their constituency properly. fin and did not know their constituency --roerl . ., ::' :: properly. on the night of the 2010 aeneral properly. on the night of the 2010 general election, _ properly. on the night of the 2010 general election, i— properly. on the night of the 2010 general election, i was _ properly. on the night of the 2010 general election, i was in - general election, i was in meadowbank whether spotty results were being collated and as seat after _ were being collated and as seat after seat was tumbling to david conservative —— the conservative south _ conservative —— the conservative south of — conservative —— the conservative south of the _ conservative —— the conservative south of the board, every labour mp in scotland _ south of the board, every labour mp in scotland held their feet and most of them _ in scotland held their feet and most of them with their majority. that was a _ of them with their majority. that was a high — of them with their majority. that was a high water mark of fortress scotland — was a high water mark of fortress scotland for labour. the following year. _ scotland for labour. the following year. 2011, — scotland for labour. the following year, 2011, the vote disappeared, the vote — year, 2011, the vote disappeared, the vote went to the snp and propelled the snp into a majority in that building over there, which made a referendum inevitable, and during the referendum campaign in 2013, 2014. _ the referendum campaign in 2013, 2014, labour's boat haemorrhaged 201a, labour's boat haemorrhaged away _ 201a, labour's boat haemorrhaged away to _ 201a, labour's boat haemorrhaged away to the yes campaign alike that was over. _ away to the yes campaign alike that was over, the bond between those traditional— was over, the bond between those traditional labour constituencies and the — traditional labour constituencies and the labour candidates, that was

broken _ and the labour candidates, that was broken. �* ., ~ and the labour candidates, that was broken. �* ., ,, , ., and the labour candidates, that was broken. �* ., ,, ,, ., broken. allen, thank you. thanks aaain to broken. allen, thank you. thanks again to alan _ broken. allen, thank you. thanks again to alan there. _ broken. allen, thank you. thanks again to alan there. just - broken. allen, thank you. thanks again to alan there. just a - broken. allen, thank you. thanks again to alan there. just a few. again to alan there. just a few points to pick up very quickly. i'll just run through them. i'm hearing plaid cymru held on to ceredigion. that has been a competitive seat in the presiding officer there. another quick word about the constituency lists in wales, 26 of the less, they show that the abolished welsh assembly party, which is running some candidates in wales, it is only fighting on the list, by the way, is currently running at a.5% said john curtis which suggests it may not win a seat in the next senate, there had been some forecasts, some opinion polls say they could come up with six or seven seats, john suggesting at this point, that may not be the case. a quick word with vicky because one of keir starmer�*s frontbenchers resigned a few weeks ago, vicky, didn't get a lot of

attention then, but is getting more attention then, but is getting more attention today because of what he said. , , , , ., ., said. yes, this is the shadow defence minister, _ said. yes, this is the shadow defence minister, he - said. yes, this is the shadow defence minister, he is- said. yes, this is the shadow i defence minister, he is talking about— defence minister, he is talking about the _ defence minister, he is talking about the labour party and what kirsty— about the labour party and what kirsty was — about the labour party and what kirsty was talking about there, because — kirsty was talking about there, because the fear amongst lots of labour— because the fear amongst lots of labour mps which is what happened in scotland. _ labour mps which is what happened in scotland, the labour party accused of taking _ scotland, the labour party accused of taking his vote for granted the decades— of taking his vote for granted the decades and then being virtually wiped _ decades and then being virtually wiped out, people lending their votes _ wiped out, people lending their votes to— wiped out, people lending their votes to others are never coming back, _ votes to others are never coming back, that — votes to others are never coming back, that is what they fear might be happening in parts of england. he said labour— be happening in parts of england. he said labour has lost touch with ordinary— said labour has lost touch with ordinary british people, london based _ ordinary british people, london based bourgeoisie with the support of brigades of woke social media worriers— of brigades of woke social media worriers has effectively captured the party — worriers has effectively captured the party. 50, this is the big problem _ the party. 50, this is the big problem that sir keir starmer has -ot problem that sir keir starmer has got now — problem that sir keir starmer has got now. we saw him interviewed earlier, _ got now. we saw him interviewed earlier, not— got now. we saw him interviewed earlier, not giving anything away about _ earlier, not giving anything away about what he is going to do, apart from _ about what he is going to do, apart from saying — about what he is going to do, apart from saying he is going to do something, look at the results now, he is _ something, look at the results now, he is going — something, look at the results now, he is going to have to do something potentially quite radical, now what is that— potentially quite radical, now what is that going to be? he has the left

of his— is that going to be? he has the left of his party, union leaders like len mccluskey. — of his party, union leaders like len mccluskey, saying you've got to revive _ mccluskey, saying you've got to revive socialism, make the case for socialism _ revive socialism, make the case for socialism even struggle and we did under— socialism even struggle and we did underjeremy corbyn, and yet others like lord _ underjeremy corbyn, and yet others like lord mandelson saying, that is completely the wrong answer, you've -ot completely the wrong answer, you've got to _ completely the wrong answer, you've got to try _ completely the wrong answer, you've got to try and forge a much broader coalition, _ got to try and forge a much broader coalition, and as peter mandelson said, _ coalition, and as peter mandelson said. the — coalition, and as peter mandelson said, the labour party is not making a cultural— said, the labour party is not making a cultural connection with those traditional labour voters who have switched _ traditional labour voters who have switched the conservatives, and it is interesting, it is not about left or right — is interesting, it is not about left or right any— is interesting, it is not about left or right any more, it is about much more _ or right any more, it is about much more than — or right any more, it is about much more than that and whether labour have glassed the enormity of what they have — have glassed the enormity of what they have to do, whether they hoped 'ust they have to do, whether they hoped just by— they have to do, whether they hoped just by changing reader that would be enough, these are jobs —— these results _ be enough, these are jobs —— these results suggest they haven't reached the bottom of where they can go. wales— the bottom of where they can go. wales is— the bottom of where they can go. wales is an — the bottom of where they can go. wales is an exception, they are holding — wales is an exception, they are holding up there but that is going to be _ holding up there but that is going to be one — holding up there but that is going to be one of the smaller moments of li-ht to be one of the smaller moments of light for— to be one of the smaller moments of light for them, really, along with london _ light for them, really, along with london and siddique khan, presumably and very— london and siddique khan, presumably and very likely to still come home again— and very likely to still come home again as _ and very likely to still come home again as mayor, but this goes far

deeper— again as mayor, but this goes far deeper thanjust the leader. his parliamentary leader know it, is he willing _ parliamentary leader know it, is he willing to _ parliamentary leader know it, is he willing to say things that are potentially deeply upset many of the party members who put him into that position. _ party members who put him into that position, that is the problem he has -ot position, that is the problem he has got over— position, that is the problem he has got over the — position, that is the problem he has got over the next few months and years _ got over the next few months and ears. ., , ., , ., years. one of the testing grounds of the west midlands _ years. one of the testing grounds of the west midlands because - years. one of the testing grounds of the west midlands because that i the west midlands because that really is where labour is on test. my really is where labour is on test. my colleague there is in birmingham. thanks forjoining us, elizabeth, give us a guide, then, tell us about this hugely important battleground. and given that vicky was talk about labour and its performance, just give us a guide as to what has been going on with labour in the west midlands in these elections. a challenging night for labour in the west midlands, similar to what we have heard in the north—east. we are talking about those battlegrounds in the 2019 general election, the red wall if you like across the black country in the

post—industrial areas. these are seats where the conservatives made huge gains in the 2019 general election. and i think we are almost seeing a bit of a continuation of that attitude from voters in these council elections. the big one really dudley, up by a third, they gained 12 seats of the conservatives. they took it from no overall control, they now run at dudley council. 11 of those seats coming from labour. and if we look into other parts of the urban conurbation centre of the west midlands around birmingham, places where labour have held on, they run the council they could not lose them or do anything but win them given the mathematics this time. but even in places like wolverhampton and sandwell, labourare in places like wolverhampton and sandwell, labour are losing seats to the conservatives. someone like sandwell a few years ago, 60 councillors in sandwell, 60 councillors in sandwell, 60 councillors all at labour. they have lost eight this time to the conservatives. then if you look at

what happened in west bromwich and other places in the general election, it reflects that back. all of the mps in west bromwich bar one 20 conservatives in 2019, and you are starting to see this reflected in these areas where you would... people voting there 15 years ago, if you ask them if they would consider voting conservative, it would be out of the question. it really does feel like a continuation of that pattern here on the ground and the west midlands. of course one of the big attention grabbing elections that is happening in this part of the world is the election the west midlands male, andy street one matt —— west midlands mayor, andy street won against the odds. his team very quietly confident. we speak to labour, liam byrne the former minister in gordon brown's government, an mp in birmingham, his team really downcast. they were talking things over the last few

days are saying that the polls that we are hearing, the national polls in london are wrong, we are not getting that response on the doorstep. but actually it is looking like they were wrong and the electorate here in the west midlands is turning much more to the conservatives. that seems to be something that, well, we have seen it developed over many years now but certainly seems to be something that is solidifying. irate certainly seems to be something that is solidifying-— is solidifying. we will wait for other results _ is solidifying. we will wait for other results as _ is solidifying. we will wait for other results as well - is solidifying. we will wait for| other results as well including people like andy burnham for the big mayoral positions. obviously the conservatives will point to andy street and then we will look at tees valley, we were taking... they will again be making the case that these positions can be used, if used properly, to connect and to effect change. but of course for that to happen, there have to be resources available for them to invest and all the rest of it. so there is a linkage here, however you want to

define it, between a conservative government and these conservative layers in different contacts who are able to say, "look, we have money for this or that." that is an interesting challenge for labour as well in this kind of contact. it is certainly the — well in this kind of contact. it 5 certainly the messaging, andy street's campaign for the conservatives is something they have repeated over and over again. "i know the right people to talk to, i the contacts at number have ten." a number of big government departments are moving to the west midlands. it seems that maybe is gaining traction with the electorate, the idea that there is some connection between these big jobs, these big metro layers being of the same party as the government. and that is something that we have heard repeated again and again. "i know how to negotiate, i could bring money to the area." and that seems to be winning people over. great money to the area." and that seems to be winning people over.— to be winning people over. great to talk to you. — to be winning people over. great to talk to you, thank _ to be winning people over. great to talk to you, thank you _ to be winning people over. great to talk to you, thank you so _ to be winning people over. great to talk to you, thank you so much i to be winning people over. great to talk to you, thank you so much for| talk to you, thank you so much for

taking us through what is a really important at a ground in these elections. willjoin kirsty again. we are waiting on the east would result which may come soon. we may have to break into the next conversation. i'mjoined by have to break into the next conversation. i'm joined by the writer and broadcaster and columnist for both the times and the spectator. good evening to you both. first of all, just reflect on these snp constituency gains for us, most recently of course angus robertson in edinburgh central.— recently of course angus robertson in edinburgh central. well, here we have an snp _ in edinburgh central. well, here we have an snp government, - in edinburgh central. well, here we have an snp government, this i in edinburgh central. well, here we have an snp government, this is i have an snp government, this is going _ have an snp government, this is going for— have an snp government, this is going for their fourth term in a proportional parliament where it should _ proportional parliament where it should not be possible to get an overall— should not be possible to get an overall majority. and we are seeing gains, _ overall majority. and we are seeing gains, which is really quite extraordinary. edinburgh central, this was— extraordinary. edinburgh central, this was the constituency that ruth davidson— this was the constituency that ruth davidson had, she is now elevated to the house _ davidson had, she is now elevated to the house of lords. so that was up for grabs. — the house of lords. so that was up for grabs, and it has been grabbed by the _

for grabs, and it has been grabbed by the snp, by angus robertson, who was ousted _ by the snp, by angus robertson, who was ousted from his own constituency in murray— was ousted from his own constituency in murray at— was ousted from his own constituency in murray at the last general election— in murray at the last general election as an mp. so he is back into holyrood. ayr equally held by the conservatives and now an snp win. the conservatives and now an snp win and _ the conservatives and now an snp win. and east lothian, which is never— win. and east lothian, which is never in — win. and east lothian, which is never in their short history of the scottish— never in their short history of the scottish parliament not had a labour mspr _ scottish parliament not had a labour msp, it— scottish parliament not had a labour msp, it has— scottish parliament not had a labour msp, it has been iain gray who was the leader— msp, it has been iain gray who was the leader for a while, it is now an snp seat~ — the leader for a while, it is now an snp seat. those are three of the seats, _ snp seat. those are three of the seats, there are six seats that are needed _ seats, there are six seats that are needed if— seats, there are six seats that are needed if the snp is to break the bank— needed if the snp is to break the bank and — needed if the snp is to break the bank and managed to get what it did in 2011 _ bank and managed to get what it did in 2011 which is this supposedly impossible total of 65 seats which means _ impossible total of 65 seats which means it — impossible total of 65 seats which means it has a working majority on its own _ means it has a working majority on its own as — means it has a working majority on its own as a — means it has a working majority on its own as a party. means it has a working ma'ority on its own as a mi its own as a party. alex, by the anal sis its own as a party. alex, by the analysis of— its own as a party. alex, by the analysis of angus _ its own as a party. alex, by the analysis of angus robertson, i its own as a party. alex, by the i analysis of angus robertson, what done it was brexit in terms of putting him in edinburgh central where, as leslie said, he lost murray in 2017. brexit has been the big thing that has reenergised the

snp vote. ~ ., , big thing that has reenergised the snp vote. ~ . , ., snp vote. well, that is part of it. the snp had _ snp vote. well, that is part of it. the snp had to _ snp vote. well, that is part of it. the snp had to wait _ snp vote. well, that is part of it. the snp had to wait quite - snp vote. well, that is part of it. the snp had to wait quite a i snp vote. well, that is part of it. the snp had to wait quite a long | the snp had to wait quite a long time _ the snp had to wait quite a long time for— the snp had to wait quite a long time for the _ the snp had to wait quite a long time for the brexit— the snp had to wait quite a long time for the brexit bounce, i the snp had to wait quite a long time for the brexit bounce, but. the snp had to wait quite a long i time for the brexit bounce, but that has arrived — time for the brexit bounce, but that has arrived. and _ time for the brexit bounce, but that has arrived. and it _ time for the brexit bounce, but that has arrived. and it is— time for the brexit bounce, but that has arrived. and it is quite - time for the brexit bounce, but that has arrived. and it is quite clearly. has arrived. and it is quite clearly obviously— has arrived. and it is quite clearly obviously a — has arrived. and it is quite clearly obviously a fairly— has arrived. and it is quite clearly obviously a fairly remarkable i obviously a fairly remarkable achievement— obviously a fairly remarkable achievement to _ obviously a fairly remarkable achievement to be _ obviously a fairly remarkable achievement to be winning . obviously a fairly remarkable - achievement to be winning another thumping _ achievement to be winning another thumping election— achievement to be winning another thumping election victory- achievement to be winning another thumping election victory when i achievement to be winning another| thumping election victory when you have been— thumping election victory when you have been in— thumping election victory when you have been in power— thumping election victory when you have been in power for— thumping election victory when you have been in power for 14 - thumping election victory when you have been in power for 14 years. i thumping election victory when you | have been in power for 14 years. on the other— have been in power for 14 years. on the other hand. _ have been in power for 14 years. on the other hand, although... - have been in power forla years. on the other hand, although. . .- the other hand, although... really sor to the other hand, although... really sorry to interrupt, _ the other hand, although... really sorry to interrupt, we _ the other hand, although... really sorry to interrupt, we will - the other hand, although... really sorry to interrupt, we will be i the other hand, although... really sorry to interrupt, we will be back| sorry to interrupt, we will be back in a short while. there is a declaration in llanelli. speaks welsh this is normally a very tough contest between plaid cymru and labour. and it is llanelli, just on them for my welsh friends tell me... this has previously been held by labour and plaid cymru, this has previously been held by labourand plaid cymru, a this has previously been held by labour and plaid cymru, a very narrow majority last time. t0

labour and plaid cymru, a very narrow majority last time. narrow ma'ority last time. to serve in the narrow majority last time. to serve in the senedd _ narrow majority last time. to serve in the senedd for _ narrow majority last time. to serve in the senedd for the _ narrow majority last time. to serve in the senedd for the nelly, - narrow majority last time. to serve in the senedd for the nelly, i i narrow majority last time. to serve in the senedd for the nelly, i give. in the senedd for the nelly, i give notice _ in the senedd for the nelly, i give notice that— in the senedd for the nelly, i give notice that the _ in the senedd for the nelly, i give notice that the number— in the senedd for the nelly, i give notice that the number of- in the senedd for the nelly, i give notice that the number of votes . notice that the number of votes recorded — notice that the number of votes recorded for— notice that the number of votes recorded for each— notice that the number of votes recorded for each candidate i notice that the number of votes recorded for each candidate at. notice that the number of votes i recorded for each candidate at the said election — recorded for each candidate at the said election is _ recorded for each candidate at the said election is as _ recorded for each candidate at the said election is as follows: - recorded for each candidate at the said election is as follows: mark . said election is as follows: mark reform — said election is as follows: mark reform uk _ reform uk speaks i reform uk i speaks welsh 672. welsh liberal democrat, 606. plaid

cymru, 5aa. jones, helen mary, plaid cymru _ cymru, 5aa. jones, helen mary, plaid cymru the _ cymru, 5aa. jones, helen mary, plaid cymru the party— cymru, 5aa. jones, helen mary, plaid cymru the party of— cymru, 5aa. jones, helen mary, plaid cymru the party of wales. _ cymru the party of wales. applause _ applause 8255. ukip, scrap the assembly,, 722. independent, 542. welsh conservative

party candidate, 4947. welsh labour, 13,930. applause _ applause applause a hefty win for lee waters, who had a majority in the hundreds last time over helen maryjones who is a former member of the senedd the llanelli. but a majority of 5675, so honestly in terms of llanelli and its battles, that is a huge majority for lee waters. and we will take a look at eastwood in a moment which is coming in from scotland. for this llanelli result, that is going to be

ringing alarm bells for plaid cymru, which has had its own problems in llanelli in recent years with some reorganisation there which happened under the leadership of leanne wood. they will certainly be looking at the result, but it labour will be cock—a—hoop, because that is a really very good result for them in llanelli. we will come back to a little analysis a little later on. but let kirsty to cut through the result in eastwood, because that is an important one that has just come in as well. an important one that has 'ust come in as well. �* , an important one that has 'ust come in as well. d ., ., ~' an important one that has 'ust come in as well. �*, ., ., ~ ., ., in as well. let's look at that eastwood — in as well. let's look at that eastwood result, _ in as well. let's look at that eastwood result, because i in as well. let's look at that l eastwood result, because this in as well. let's look at that i eastwood result, because this was number eight on the target for the snp. let's see what happened in eastwood. certainly the conservatives have held that seat, and let's look at that vote in more detail. because it is 42% for conservatives, 36% for the snp, 16 for labour. let's look at that in

terms of the share of the vote. the conservatives are up 6%, snp is up 6%, but labour is down 15%. that suggests the snp to conservatives if it's 4%. suggests the snp to conservatives if it's a%. the important thing there was that the labour vote was down because they saw the former leader of the conservatives in the parliament in edinburgh as the more important unionist candidate. again, what it was was we have straightforwardly more tactical voting. we can see that there that snp to conservative by four percentage points. that was a big hope for the snp, but they have not managed it. so now over to you. thanks for taking us through that. we were looking at the results from llanelli, which is a stunning win for welsh labour. against plaid cymru. with that in mind, let me bring in one of the most prominent

of mark drakeford's minister, the health minister in wales. thanks for joining us. i am just wondering what you made of that result in llanelli and what is going on so far for you? it is a really big win for us in llanelli, it has always been a very tight seat. in fact, no individual has held that seat two elections in a row. 50 we are just not used to seeing that size majority in that seat. a big result for welsh labour. i am just hearing that rhonda result has come in with a victory for us there. two direct labour against ayr fights, we have succeeded by a decent margin. i think that shows that the leadership we have provided to the pandemic has been something people in wales have valued and told us about on the doorstep, they voted for it. a slightly different picture in north wales where we have lost one seat, we may win a seat back on the list. we still need to listen and to understand what is happening there, but if you had told me six months ago that we would be on the

cusp of getting very near to our result in the last senedd, potentially even better, i would have bitten your hand off for that result. 50 we are delighted, and it does show we are taking nothing for granted. every seat and every vote. bear with us, if you would. thanks for pointing us on rhonda, we have just had the figure in. just so the viewers can see the figures, elizabeth williams on a 12,000 there. the former plaid cymru leader who took this last time down to 7300 votes. the tories behind there. the majority, a big majority again for welsh labour of 5500 votes. let's go straight back to vaughan gething. just in what you were saying there about a very strong performance in those contests against plaid cymru. and it shows a really positive patriotic campaign we fought here. the big issue on the doorstep was covid and covid recovery. lots of

comments about the success of our vaccination programme. and of course plaid cymru chose to front a presidential campaign largely and on course to finish third. the challenge is for plaid cymru, that even though we are going to be the biggest party in wales, welsh labour certainly will not be taking those votes for granted, and we need to keep on listening, keep on learning, keep on listening, keep on learning, keep on listening, keep on learning, keep on making choices for the future of wales that are consistent with our values. and that does mean still listening to what is happening in north wales and notjust celebrating the success we have had so far in the south. there is one big result to come of course and thatis big result to come of course and that is in the vale of glamorgan, a seat the tories were heavily targeting, and that has real significance for the future of the senedd. i'm delighted for all of our candidates and activists, and i am really pleased that the people of wales have responded so positively to our offering in this election. what are your party colleagues tell you about the vale of glamorgan? are they making positive noises? it looks like it is really tight, a few

weeks ago, the tories were sounding very positive and were assuming they were going to win by some distance. we always thought it would be entirely tight, i did the last mock—up of the evening in the cold just before 10pm in barry, so we took nothing for granted, worked works of the way through to the end. and we are looking to see what the actual result is. she held onto that seat over a long period of years, and had to fight hard, there has been a tory mp in the vale of glamorgan since 2010. so a big result amongst welsh conservatives. we think it will be very tight, and i am holding out some optimism that she will be returned once again. very quickly if i may, it has not been possible since 1999 that any party, and labour in this case certainly, to get 31 seats in the assembly, as it was, the senedd now. are we still seen that today? are you till saying that despite this strong performance of yours, you are not likely to reach 31 seats?

it would be difficult for us to get to 31 seats. we would need to look at north wales as well to see the results there and we would need to make choices. being the largest party, we are going to be the largest party, we need to decide how to covering —— govern in a way that delivers the promises and deliver the covert recovery that it requires. —— the covid recovery. we need to win elections and renew our trust and faith with the people of wales. , ., ., trust and faith with the people of wales. h, ., ., trust and faith with the people of wales. ., ., ~' trust and faith with the people of wales. ., ., ~ ., ,, trust and faith with the people of wales. ., ., ~ ., ., ~ wales. good to talk to you, thank ou. wales. good to talk to you, thank yom now. — wales. good to talk to you, thank yom now. we _ wales. good to talk to you, thank you. now, we can _ wales. good to talk to you, thank you. now, we can return - wales. good to talk to you, thank you. now, we can return to - wales. good to talk to you, thank you. now, we can return to leslie reddick and _ you. now, we can return to leslie reddick and the _ you. now, we can return to leslie reddick and the times _ you. now, we can return to leslie reddick and the times and - you. now, we can return to leslie i reddick and the times and spectator commentator, we have had the eastwood — commentator, we have had the eastwood result, the conservative vote there — eastwood result, the conservative vote there was the most reliable unionist— vote there was the most reliable unionist vote in the area, would you make _ unionist vote in the area, would you make of— unionist vote in the area, would you make of that?— make of that? what this election confirms is _

make of that? what this election confirms is that _ make of that? what this election confirms is that scotland - make of that? what this election confirms is that scotland is - confirms is that scotland is divided, pretty much 50—50 on the national question, the question of independence and this is reflected, obviously, in an election campaign in which the snp will win something close to 50% of the vote and newness parties will went the other 50% of the votes but that is divided between conservatives, labourers and liberals so it is only in a relatively small number of constituencies where you see voters coalescing around the most plausible anti—snp candidate. in that sense, there isn't very much that we are learning that is new in this election, it is a further underlining of the fact that scotland exists in a sense, as sort of nervous equilibria, if you like, there is a stalemate. years of constitutional trend ahead of us. years of constitutional where —— warfare lie behind us and ahead of

us. the chances are they will have a majority, along with the greens, the snp, obviously we haven't had dumbarton yet. but on the question of a second independence referendum, nicola sturgeon says she wants it. we have the chance of an interview with alex salmond. alex salmond, thank you forjoining us tonight. by what we are hearing from the performers on the list, it may be that you are not returned to parliament in edinburgh to sit as an album snp. —— msp. taste parliament in edinburgh to sit as an album snp. -- msp.— album snp. -- msp. we are still obviously hopeful _ album snp. -- msp. we are still obviously hopeful because - album snp. -- msp. we are still obviously hopeful because most| album snp. -- msp. we are still. obviously hopeful because most of the votes are still to be counted on the votes are still to be counted on the list but we think we are going to fall a bit short tomorrow. we've got some ballot boxes showing alba

at 10%. what we are doing is registering, we have looked at a constituency where we beat the liberal democrats, for example, so we are making breakthrough in some places. but to make the parliamentary breakthrough, we may fall short. we have 5000 members, 20 councillors, two mamas and the westminster parliament, that is not that bad in six weeks for a political party. that bad in six weeks for a political party-— that bad in six weeks for a political party. two mps at westminster, _ political party. two mps at westminster, what - political party. two mps at westminster, what we - political party. two mps at| westminster, what we that political party. two mps at - westminster, what we that political platform they stand on, is it to harry the snp into an early referendum?— harry the snp into an early referendum? well, two of the arguments — referendum? well, two of the arguments we _ referendum? well, two of the arguments we made - referendum? well, two of the arguments we made in - referendum? well, two of the arguments we made in this i referendum? well, two of the - arguments we made in this campaign look like, and i mean the final results aren't in yet, kirsty, but look like they may be proven to be correct, that is to say we are going to miss out on a super majority, it will be an independence majority in a scots parliament but not quite the extent that was possible to do and

therefore it is going to be very important for the mps at westminster, the alba representative that counsel level, urging forward those who are elected on a platform of independence, to get on with it and start explaining independence to the people. and the second thing... can ijust ask the people. and the second thing... can i just ask you that... the people. and the second thing... can ijust ask you that... a; the people. and the second thing... can i just ask you that. . ._ can i just ask you that... a million votes, can i just ask you that... a million votes. there _ can i just ask you that... a million votes, there is _ can i just ask you that... a million votes, there is a _ can i just ask you that... a million votes, there is a delay _ can i just ask you that... a million votes, there is a delay on - can i just ask you that... a million votes, there is a delay on the - can i just ask you that... a million | votes, there is a delay on the line. yes, sorry, there is a delay on the line. what i was going to say is are you going to support nicola sturgeon in this? are you going to be at her back or are you going to back off now and are you going to support nicola sturgeon? you are very critical of her style of politics, heading towards a referendum. you want a more direct reproach —— approach, you want to go for an independence referendum, whether or not you get a section 30. are you going to back off alec nicola sturgeon lead the party in whatever direction she feels is right to was

that referendum independence —— independence referendum? bilbo that referendum independence -- independence referendum? alba has been entirely— independence referendum? alba has been entirely positive _ independence referendum? alba has been entirely positive about - independence referendum? alba has been entirely positive about nicola i been entirely positive about nicola sturgeon, we have been urging people to vote snp. indeed, one of the six seats in the snp... there were about 1200 votes in the list. we probably saved the snp's bacon by urging people to vote for the snp constituency level, as you would expect, because we are an independent supporting party but we want to see more urgency in the independence campaign. nicola has won a commanding result, whether she gets an overall majority are not. but with when a big result comes a big responsibility, and the independence voters want to see that case being brought forward, not sometime in hereafter but in the here and now. fif sometime in hereafter but in the here and now.— sometime in hereafter but in the here and now. _, , , , here and now. of course, everybody knows that — here and now. of course, everybody knows that you _ here and now. of course, everybody knows that you and _ here and now. of course, everybody knows that you and nicola _ here and now. of course, everybody knows that you and nicola sturgeon| knows that you and nicola sturgeon have had your travails, you were

quoted recently as saying about her, if i wanted to destroy her, it could have been done. are you proud of what she has done for the snp? and would you say that you would never ever try to destroy her?— ever try to destroy her? yeah, it is total rubbish, _ ever try to destroy her? yeah, it is total rubbish, that _ ever try to destroy her? yeah, it is total rubbish, that article, - ever try to destroy her? yeah, it is total rubbish, that article, taken . total rubbish, that article, taken completely out of context. i was pointing out that even in the parliamentary inquiries, despite being invited to call for her resignation. the distinguishing mark in this campaign is every word we had said about independence and independently this has been entirely positive. yes, they will be on to see more urgency and then a benz debate. now, those who have won the election had the responsibility to take matters forward. alba are in a good position, with an activist base and members of parliament, we will be there as the guardians of the independence cause and argue strongly that it must be taken forward. there are two points of

view in scotland, in the independence camp, some people believe you should soft peddle independence in order to sneak it past people. i believe the way to increase independence support, as was demonstrated in 2014, is to advocate independence and to make sure you have answers to the very real pertinent questions about currency, about europe, about independence and economic revival, about independence in the modern era, not the era of 2014 but the changed world we leave now —— we live in now. alba addresses this and therefore we are entirely supportive of nicola putting forward the independence case. understandably, albert feel that kate should be put forward with alacrity and urgency. —— alba feel that that case should be put forward with alacrity and

urgency. i said the line in the article was taken out of context. what i said at the parliamentary committee, despite being asked about unionist, i refuse to call for an echo's resignation, that is the point i was making in the article, and the point i'm making to you, kirsty, alba have been entirely positive, our entire campaign has been spot —— positive about scottish independence and look at the future of scotland. that is why i think alba will be well set to play a significant role in scottish politics as we move into that exciting prospect.— politics as we move into that exciting prospect. thank you very much, exciting prospect. thank you very much. alex _ exciting prospect. thank you very much, alex salmond. _ exciting prospect. thank you very much, alex salmond. i— exciting prospect. thank you very much, alex salmond. i would - exciting prospect. thank you very| much, alex salmond. i would like exciting prospect. thank you very i much, alex salmond. i would like to go back to lesley reddick. what did you make of that interview that alex salmond hasjust you make of that interview that alex salmond has just given? you make of that interview that alex salmond hasjust given? well. you make of that interview that alex salmond hasjust given?— salmond has 'ust given? well, i thouuht it salmond hasjust given? well, i thought it was _ salmond hasjust given? well, i thought it was kind _ salmond hasjust given? well, i thought it was kind of _ salmond hasjust given? well, i thought it was kind of very i thought it was kind of very generous, given the amount of effort

and political capital that has been used up by alex and lots of independence supporters in trying to get alba off the ground. we don't know if there is a list section of the seats, it hasn't been counted yet, but as it is concealing a number of places, there is not enough on the ground is about to expect there to be many acting at all. i think what alba have done is they have opened up people's thinking a lot about the second vote they have in scotland but strangely they have in scotland but strangely the beneficiaries of that could be a different party entirely, the greens, partly because they have also been included in debates and they have planning —— extremely well, a very deft combination of a co—leadership between law slater and patrick harvie, a lot of younger people very, very concerned about the environment. and all of that now is fronted by the greens for the first time, making a really clear commitment to an independence

referendum themselves so the combination is pretty powerful, may be more powerful with more media exposure than alba. i be more powerfulwith more media exposure than alba.— exposure than alba. i want to give the last word _ exposure than alba. i want to give the last word to _ exposure than alba. i want to give the last word to alex _ exposure than alba. i want to give the last word to alex massie, i the last word to alex massie, looking ahead to borisjohnson's implacable opposition to an independence referendum. is that, do you think, a tenable position, if the snp plus greens are going again explicitly in their manifestos as parties for scottish independence? it was a pro—independence majority in the _ it was a pro—independence majority in the old _ it was a pro—independence majority in the old scottish party and it was going _ in the old scottish party and it was going to _ in the old scottish party and it was going to be the same in the new one but the _ going to be the same in the new one but the old _ going to be the same in the new one but the old parliament couldn't detiver— but the old parliament couldn't deliver or— but the old parliament couldn't deliver or force a referendum and it is not _ deliver or force a referendum and it is not clear— deliver or force a referendum and it is not clear that the new one can either _ is not clear that the new one can either. despite those manifesto commitments. the number, the people that matter— commitments. the number, the people that matter here are not boris johnson, _ that matter here are not boris johnson, actually, it is the people of scotland, and though they are voting _ of scotland, and though they are voting for— of scotland, and though they are voting for nsp —— snp and green candidates, if you ask people if they— candidates, if you ask people if they want— candidates, if you ask people if they want a referendum on the next two years. _

they want a referendum on the next two years, only 28 people said they do, two years, only 28 people said they do. if— two years, only 28 people said they do. if you _ two years, only 28 people said they do, if you want when the next five years. _ do, if you want when the next five years. the — do, if you want when the next five years, the figure goes up to 40 to 45%~ _ years, the figure goes up to 40 to 45%~ those — years, the figure goes up to 40 to 45%. those are the circumstances it seems _ 45%. those are the circumstances it seems to— 45%. those are the circumstances it seems to me — 45%. those are the circumstances it seems to me in which it would be prudent— seems to me in which it would be prudent and sensible are desirable to have _ prudent and sensible are desirable to have a — prudent and sensible are desirable to have a second independence referendum. it may be at present that people like the idea of independence in theory than they do independence in theory than they do in practice _ independence in theory than they do in practice but clearly, you know, the argument for a referendum as a degree _ the argument for a referendum as a degree of— the argument for a referendum as a degree of moral authority and weight behind _ degree of moral authority and weight behind it— degree of moral authority and weight behind it so it will become difficult, the longer the uk says no to it, _ difficult, the longer the uk says no to it. or— difficult, the longer the uk says no to it, or people say no to it, the harder— to it, or people say no to it, the harder that _ to it, or people say no to it, the harder that line becomes to sustain. and now— harder that line becomes to sustain. and now is _ harder that line becomes to sustain. and now is not the time, it will do for the _ and now is not the time, it will do for the time — and now is not the time, it will do for the time being, and now is not the time, it will do forthe time being, but and now is not the time, it will do for the time being, but it isn't a long-term — for the time being, but it isn't a long—term answer to the very real problem _ long—term answer to the very real problem is — long—term answer to the very real problem is that unionism has. long-term answer to the very real problem is that unionism has. thanks so much for— problem is that unionism has. thanks so much forjoining _ problem is that unionism has. thanks so much forjoining us. _ problem is that unionism has. thanks so much forjoining us. we _ problem is that unionism has. thanks so much forjoining us. we were i so much for 'oining us. we were talkin: so much forjoining us. we were talking earlier _ so much forjoining us. we were talking earlier about _ so much forjoining us. we were talking earlier about the - so much forjoining us. we were talking earlier about the result i so much forjoining us. we were| talking earlier about the result in eastwood and sirjohn curtis has just passed this note on to me saying the successful conservative

defence of eastwood significantly reduces the snp's chances of winning an overall majority. and this appeared to be among the more likely places where the snp might when one of their key oppositional marginal seats that were left to declare. the victor in eastwood is the conservative jackson carlisle, former conservative leader. it is great to have you with us, congratulations on your election. thank you very much. can i take you -- can— thank you very much. can i take you -- can i_ thank you very much. can i take you -- can i take — thank you very much. can i take you —— can i take you back to the campaign? _ -- can i take you back to the campaign?— -- can i take you back to the camaiun? . .,~ , ., campaign? can you talk us through the factors in _ campaign? can you talk us through the factors in that _ campaign? can you talk us through the factors in that campaign - campaign? can you talk us through the factors in that campaign which | the factors in that campaign which you thought were the most telling ones which produce this victory for you? ones which produce this victory for ou? �* . ., , you? i'm officially delighted with the results- _ you? i'm officially delighted with the results. the _ you? i'm officially delighted with the results. the vote _ you? i'm officially delighted with the results. the vote share i you? i'm officially delighted with the results. the vote share for. you? i'm officially delighted with i the results. the vote share for the conservative party is up and it would be fair to say the issue is to

focus entirely on the recovery from the pandemic not to put ourselves through all the division and heartache of another introspective long conversation and then a referendum about the future of scotland and the union, it was very much one of the things that people said to me from various parties who were voting to support me in a selection, that they had a was the keyissue selection, that they had a was the key issue that had drawn them to support me this time around. i’m support me this time around. i'm lookin: at support me this time around. i'm looking at the tally and the conservatives in scotland are on three, down to. down two. i wanted to draw on your experience on the campaign trail, where do you think you will end up? what is your sense of the conservative performance in this campaign? i had ihada i had a feeling at times that we may end up with a parliament which does

not look that wholly different to the one that was there before. so i would expect the conservative party is still to be the largest party in opposition, what the final number will be i don't know. and i hope and believe that we can still deny the snp that the majority that would allow them to railroad legislation through what was a parliament that was always designed not to be a parliament with a government with a majority, but a parliament in which any leading party would have to reach out to get progress on all the various issues. and i think if we can do that, then actually we can make some productive progress of the people of scotland. but make some productive progress of the people of scotland.— people of scotland. but surely what is likel to people of scotland. but surely what is likely to happen, _ people of scotland. but surely what is likely to happen, i— people of scotland. but surely what is likely to happen, i mean, - is likely to happen, i mean, obviously i want your view on it, is that the snp will do what it has done before and catch up with the greens possibly someone else to put through the programme. in which case, it is difficult to see what you as a scottish conservatives can do in that context. irate you as a scottish conservatives can do in that context.— do in that context. we will vigorously _ do in that context. we will vigorously oppose. - do in that context. we will vigorously oppose. i- do in that context. we will vigorously oppose. i think| do in that context. we will- vigorously oppose. i think one of the things that is undoubtedly true

is that the last year has been dominated by the pandemic and the attention of us all on it. it is interesting that actually before we went into that pandemic, the snp was beginning to struggle slightly in opinion polls because i think there was a much greater recognition that nearly every level and in every public service, we were in a worse position than we had been 12 months before. as we move out of the pandemic, as we actually starts to concentrate on ensuring that we have the jobs and the economy is recovering, that we start to look again at getting the cancer waiting times that have lengthened as a result of the pandemic, the focus of everybody will be on the successful delivery of the domestic agenda in scotland. and of the snp do not deliver on that, we will be standing there rigorously opposing them. and on the back of a manifesto which opinion polls actually showed was the most popular of the manifestos, when people were asked to read it when people were asked to read it when not knowing whose it was. we have de are detailed policies which

will be the basis of a constructive opposition to ensure that the snp are now in theirfinal term of office and that scotland in due course has an alternative government and future. , .. and future. during the campaign, boris johnson _ and future. during the campaign, boris johnson made _ and future. during the campaign, boris johnson made several i and future. during the campaign, boris johnson made several visits and future. during the campaign, i boris johnson made several visits to borisjohnson made several visits to wales, as i understand it, he made not a single visit to scotland, correct me if i am wrong. is that because he didn't want to or is that because he didn't want to or is that because he didn't want to or is that because he is an embarrassment to you in scotland? i because he is an embarrassment to you in scotland?— because he is an embarrassment to you in scotland? i heard a lot about this, buti you in scotland? i heard a lot about this, but | think — you in scotland? i heard a lot about this, but i think david _ you in scotland? i heard a lot about this, but i think david cameron i you in scotland? i heard a lot about this, but i think david cameron and| this, but i think david cameron and became once to the scottish election campaign in 2016. the prime minister is not on the ballot, and david cameron came when there was not a pandemic. sol cameron came when there was not a pandemic. so i was not at all surprised that the prime minister was not in scotland on this occasion, he comes up as head of the government. but this would purely have been done for party political purposes, nothing he made the correct decision. this is a scottish election for a scottish parliament, with our scottish leader who i am looking forward very much to getting behind at holyrood, that is what is important. we will work closely with

the prime minister of course for the betterment of scotland, because so much of the recovery from the pandemic for our economy depends on are working closely with the chancellor rishi sunak and also with the prime minister. but i think the fact he was not here during the election is something people like to make a great issue of, i don't not think it had anything to do with the delivery of the campaign, our campaign message or the result we will achieve. campaign message or the result we will achieve-— will achieve. good to talk to you. thank you- _ will achieve. good to talk to you. thank you. and _ will achieve. good to talk to you. thank you. and now _ will achieve. good to talk to you. thank you. and now we - will achieve. good to talk to you. thank you. and now we can i will achieve. good to talk to you. thank you. and now we can be i will achieve. good to talk to you. i thank you. and now we can be joined thank you. and now we can be 'oined b the thank you. and now we can be 'oined by the woman — thank you. and now we can be 'oined by the woman «i thank you. and now we can be 'oined by the woman of the i thank you. and now we can be 'oined by the woman of the moment, i thank you. and now we can be joined by the woman of the moment, the i by the woman of the moment, the deputy— by the woman of the moment, the deputy leader of the scottish labour party. _ deputy leader of the scottish labour party. who — deputy leader of the scottish labour party, who is in dumbarton which is the most _ party, who is in dumbarton which is the most marginal constituency in scotland — the most marginal constituency in scotland. 109 votes in it, and the snp at _ scotland. 109 votes in it, and the snp at your heels. this is a long wait _ snp at your heels. this is a long wait for— snp at your heels. this is a long wait for you _ snp at your heels. this is a long wait for you to get this result, and you know— wait for you to get this result, and you know of— wait for you to get this result, and you know of course this is a critical— you know of course this is a critical result for you, but also it would _ critical result for you, but also it would be — critical result for you, but also it would be a — critical result for you, but also it would be a grimly important result for the _ would be a grimly important result for the snp. what is it looking like? — for the snp. what is it looking like? -- — for the snp. what is it looking like? -- an— for the snp. what is it looking like? —— an extremely important result— like? —— an extremely important result for— like? —— an extremely important result for the snp. |

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eagle eyes, do you think it is closerthan109? | eagle eyes, do you think it is closer than 109?— eagle eyes, do you think it is closer than 109? . , ., closer than 109? i have genuinely no idea. closer than 109? i have genuinely no idea- some — closer than 109? i have genuinely no idea- some of— closer than 109? i have genuinely no idea. some of the _ closer than 109? i have genuinely no idea. some of the people _ closer than 109? i have genuinely no idea. some of the people looking i idea. some of the people looking around _ idea. some of the people looking around and — idea. some of the people looking around and sampling _ idea. some of the people looking around and sampling the - idea. some of the people looking around and sampling the votes i around and sampling the votes suggested _ around and sampling the votes suggested maybe _ around and sampling the votes suggested maybe even- around and sampling the votes suggested maybe even closer. | around and sampling the votes i suggested maybe even closer. but around and sampling the votes - suggested maybe even closer. but who knows? _ suggested maybe even closer. but who knows? i'm _ suggested maybe even closer. but who knows? i'm not— suggested maybe even closer. but who knows? i'm not going _ suggested maybe even closer. but who knows? i'm not going to— suggested maybe even closer. but who knows? i'm not going to speculate i knows? i'm not going to speculate further, _ knows? i'm not going to speculate further, but— knows? i'm not going to speculate further, but do _ knows? i'm not going to speculate further, but do you _ knows? i'm not going to speculate further, but do you know - knows? i'm not going to speculate further, but do you know the i knows? i'm not going to speculate further, but do you know the nicel further, but do you know the nice thing _ further, but do you know the nice thing about— further, but do you know the nice thing about this _ further, but do you know the nice thing about this campaign, - thing about this campaign, irrespective _ thing about this campaign, irrespective of— thing about this campaign, irrespective of the - thing about this campaign, irrespective of the result, i thing about this campaign, l irrespective of the result, is actually— irrespective of the result, is actually the _ irrespective of the result, is actually the positive - irrespective of the result, is- actually the positive conversations we have _ actually the positive conversations we have had — actually the positive conversations we have had with _ actually the positive conversations we have had with people - actually the positive conversations we have had with people at - actually the positive conversations we have had with people at the . we have had with people at the doors — we have had with people at the doors. suddenly— we have had with people at the doors. suddenly labour- we have had with people at the doors. suddenly labour now. we have had with people at thei doors. suddenly labour now has we have had with people at the - doors. suddenly labour now has not 'ust doors. suddenly labour now has not just permission— doors. suddenly labour now has not just permission to _ doors. suddenly labour now has not just permission to speak— doors. suddenly labour now has not just permission to speak but - doors. suddenly labour now has not just permission to speak but to - just permission to speak but to actually— just permission to speak but to actually be _ just permission to speak but to actually be heard. _ just permission to speak but to actually be heard. and - just permission to speak but to actually be heard. and we - just permission to speak but to| actually be heard. and we had a great _ actually be heard. and we had a great discussions _ actually be heard. and we had a great discussions with _ actually be heard. and we had a great discussions with people i actually be heard. and we had aj great discussions with people of their— great discussions with people of their experience _ great discussions with people of their experience of— great discussions with people of their experience of the - great discussions with people of i their experience of the pandemic, what _ their experience of the pandemic, what they— their experience of the pandemic, what they want _ their experience of the pandemic, what they want to _ their experience of the pandemic, what they want to see _ their experience of the pandemic, what they want to see parliament| their experience of the pandemic, - what they want to see parliament do, what they want to see parliament do, what they— what they want to see parliament do, what they want — what they want to see parliament do, what they want to _

what they want to see parliament do, what they want to see _ what they want to see parliament do, what they want to see a _ what they want to see parliament do, what they want to see a group - what they want to see parliament do, what they want to see a group of- what they want to see a group of labour— what they want to see a group of labour msps_ what they want to see a group of labour msps in— what they want to see a group of labour msps in the _ what they want to see a group of labour msps in the parliament l what they want to see a group of| labour msps in the parliament to what they want to see a group of- labour msps in the parliament to do. that is_ labour msps in the parliament to do. that is to _ labour msps in the parliament to do. that is to prioritise _ labour msps in the parliament to do. that is to prioritise recovery, - labour msps in the parliament to do. that is to prioritise recovery, to- that is to prioritise recovery, to talk about — that is to prioritise recovery, to talk aboutjobs_ that is to prioritise recovery, to talk about jobs and _ that is to prioritise recovery, to talk about jobs and the - that is to prioritise recovery, to. talk about jobs and the economy, that is to prioritise recovery, to- talk about jobs and the economy, to -et talk about jobs and the economy, to get our— talk about jobs and the economy, to get our nhs — talk about jobs and the economy, to get our nhs ttack— talk about jobs and the economy, to get our nhs back on— talk about jobs and the economy, to get our nhs back on track, - talk about jobs and the economy, to get our nhs back on track, and - talk about jobs and the economy, to get our nhs back on track, and to l get our nhs back on track, and to also make — get our nhs back on track, and to also make sure _ get our nhs back on track, and to also make sure that— get our nhs back on track, and to also make sure that our— get our nhs back on track, and to also make sure that our children, | also make sure that our children, who have — also make sure that our children, who have been _ also make sure that our children, who have been out _ also make sure that our children, who have been out of _ also make sure that our children, who have been out of school - also make sure that our children, who have been out of school for i also make sure that our children, i who have been out of school for the best part _ who have been out of school for the best part of — who have been out of school for the best part of one _ who have been out of school for the best part of one year, _ who have been out of school for the best part of one year, have - who have been out of school for the best part of one year, have the - best part of one year, have the ability— best part of one year, have the ability to— best part of one year, have the ability to catch _ best part of one year, have the ability to catch up _ best part of one year, have the ability to catch up and - best part of one year, have the ability to catch up and seize - best part of one year, have the | ability to catch up and seize the opportunities _ ability to catch up and seize the opportunities they— ability to catch up and seize the opportunities they would - ability to catch up and seize the - opportunities they would otherwise have missed~ — opportunities they would otherwise have missed. the— opportunities they would otherwise have missed-— opportunities they would otherwise have missed. the pub in the labour is they are — have missed. the pub in the labour is they are not _ have missed. the pub in the labour is they are not making _ have missed. the pub in the labour is they are not making headway - have missed. the pub in the labour is they are not making headway in l is they are not making headway in the constituencies, no spectacular victories _ the constituencies, no spectacular victories -- — the constituencies, no spectacular victories —— the problem. you are in the same _ victories —— the problem. you are in the same position as you have been for the _ the same position as you have been for the last— the same position as you have been for the last four years. that brings me ohto _ for the last four years. that brings me onto the possibility of an independence referendum, we are now looking _ independence referendum, we are now looking at— independence referendum, we are now looking at the probable snp perhaps with green majority in the scottish parliament. we know that the nicola sturgeon _ parliament. we know that the nicola sturgeon is focused on the pandemic, she says. _ sturgeon is focused on the pandemic, she says, but looking ahead to an independence referendum in the first part of— independence referendum in the first part of the _ independence referendum in the first part of the next parliament. what is labour's _ part of the next parliament. what is labour's position going to be on this? _ labour's position going to be on this? because if you are going to stand _ this? because if you are going to stand irr— this? because if you are going to stand in the way of an independence

referendum, are you going to stand shoulder— referendum, are you going to stand shoulder to— referendum, are you going to stand shoulder to shoulder with boris johnson — shoulder to shoulder with boris johnson on this? shoulder to shoulder with boris johnson on this?— shoulder to shoulder with boris johnson on this? ., ., ,, . . johnson on this? look, we have made it erfectl johnson on this? look, we have made it perfectly clear _ johnson on this? look, we have made it perfectly clear in _ johnson on this? look, we have made it perfectly clear in our— johnson on this? look, we have made it perfectly clear in our manifesto - it perfectly clear in our manifesto that we _ it perfectly clear in our manifesto that we are — it perfectly clear in our manifesto that we are against _ it perfectly clear in our manifesto. that we are against independence, it perfectly clear in our manifesto - that we are against independence, we don't think— that we are against independence, we don't think the — that we are against independence, we don't think the time _ that we are against independence, we don't think the time is right for - that we are against independence, we don't think the time is right for an - don't think the time is right for an independence _ don't think the time is right for an independence referendum. - don't think the time is right for an independence referendum. i'm i don't think the time is right for ani independence referendum. i'm old enough — independence referendum. i'm old enou:h... ~ . independence referendum. i'm old. enough---— let enough... when will it be right? let me 'ust enough... when will it be right? let me just finish _ enough... when will it be right? let me just finish the _ enough... when will it be right? let me just finish the point, _ enough... when will it be right? let me just finish the point, because i enough... when will it be right? let me just finish the point, because in| me just finish the point, because in 2008. _ me just finish the point, because in 2008. we _ me just finish the point, because in 2008. we had _ me just finish the point, because in 2008. we had a _ me just finish the point, because in 2008, we had a global— me just finish the point, because in 2008, we had a global recession i me just finish the point, because in. 2008, we had a global recession that was not _ 2008, we had a global recession that was not as— 2008, we had a global recession that was not as bad — 2008, we had a global recession that was not as bad in— 2008, we had a global recession that was not as bad in terms _ 2008, we had a global recession that was not as bad in terms of— 2008, we had a global recession that was not as bad in terms of impact- 2008, we had a global recession that was not as bad in terms of impact on| was not as bad in terms of impact on the economy— was not as bad in terms of impact on the economy and _ was not as bad in terms of impact on the economy and jobs _ was not as bad in terms of impact on the economy and jobs as _ was not as bad in terms of impact on the economy and jobs as the - was not as bad in terms of impact on. the economy and jobs as the pandemic has been _ the economy and jobs as the pandemic has been there — the economy and jobs as the pandemic has been. there are _ the economy and jobs as the pandemic has been. there are people _ the economy and jobs as the pandemic has been. there are people still- the economy and jobs as the pandemic has been. there are people still in - has been. there are people still in fellow— has been. there are people still in fellow who— has been. there are people still in fellow who are _ has been. there are people still in fellow who are worried _ has been. there are people still in fellow who are worried about - has been. there are people still in i fellow who are worried about whether they will _ fellow who are worried about whether they will have — fellow who are worried about whether they will have a — fellow who are worried about whether they will have a job _ fellow who are worried about whether they will have a job when _ fellow who are worried about whether they will have a job when they - fellow who are worried about whether they will have a job when they come i they will have a job when they come out of— they will have a job when they come out of the _ they will have a job when they come out of the furlough, _ they will have a job when they come out of the furlough, we _ they will have a job when they come out of the furlough, we have - they will have a job when they come out of the furlough, we have not - out of the furlough, we have not seen _ out of the furlough, we have not seen the — out of the furlough, we have not seen the full _ out of the furlough, we have not seen the full impact _ out of the furlough, we have not seen the full impact of - out of the furlough, we have not seen the full impact of the - out of the furlough, we have not - seen the full impact of the pandemic yet. seen the full impact of the pandemic yet and _ seen the full impact of the pandemic yet and if— seen the full impact of the pandemic yet and if it— seen the full impact of the pandemic yet. and if it took— seen the full impact of the pandemic yet. and if it took ten _ seen the full impact of the pandemic yet. and if it took ten years - seen the full impact of the pandemic yet. and if it took ten years to - yet. and if it took ten years to recover — yet. and if it took ten years to recover from _ yet. and if it took ten years to recover from the _ yet. and if it took ten years to recover from the global- yet. and if it took ten years to - recover from the global recession, it will— recover from the global recession, it will take — recover from the global recession, it will take a — recover from the global recession, it will take a while _ recover from the global recession, it will take a while to _ recover from the global recession, it will take a while to recover- recover from the global recession, it will take a while to recover from| it will take a while to recover from the pandemic _ it will take a while to recover from the pandemic. and _ it will take a while to recover from the pandemic. and we _ it will take a while to recover from the pandemic. and we have - it will take a while to recover from the pandemic. and we have said l it will take a while to recover from i the pandemic. and we have said very clearly— the pandemic. and we have said very clearly that _ the pandemic. and we have said very clearly that our — the pandemic. and we have said very clearly that our focus _ the pandemic. and we have said very clearly that our focus should - the pandemic. and we have said very clearly that our focus should be - the pandemic. and we have said very clearly that our focus should be on i clearly that our focus should be on that, _ clearly that our focus should be on that, should — clearly that our focus should be on that, should be _ clearly that our focus should be on that, should be on _ clearly that our focus should be on that, should be on recovery, - clearly that our focus should be on that, should be on recovery, not. that, should be on recovery, not referendums _ that, should be on recovery, not referendums. and _ that, should be on recovery, not referendums. and actually - that, should be on recovery, not referendums. and actually that. that, should be on recovery, not. referendums. and actually that was what people — referendums. and actually that was what people were _ referendums. and actually that was what people were saying _ referendums. and actually that was what people were saying to - referendums. and actually that was what people were saying to me - referendums. and actually that was what people were saying to me on. referendums. and actually that was i what people were saying to me on the as well _

what people were saying to me on the as well iti— what people were saying to me on the as well. . what people were saying to me on the as well. , . . ., , as well. if there is a ma'ority in the scoursh * as well. if there is a majority in the scottish parliament - as well. if there is a majority in the scottish parliament for - as well. if there is a majority in the scottish parliament for the | as well. if there is a majority in - the scottish parliament for the idea of an independence referendum, would you stand _ of an independence referendum, would you stand on a platform with conservatives, other unionists after all, conservatives, other unionists after all. a _ conservatives, other unionists after all, a unionist alliance standing against — all, a unionist alliance standing against the nationalists and the greens— against the nationalists and the greens against an independence referendum? is that what you would do? would _ referendum? is that what you would do? would there be a better together campaign _ do? would there be a better together campaign this time around? what would _ campaign this time around? what would happen? ? to be honest, we have _ would happen? ? to be honest, we have covered this ground in a previous— have covered this ground in a previous interview, and i am very clear— previous interview, and i am very clear that — previous interview, and i am very clear that the labour party's position— clear that the labour party's position is that we do not want to see a _ position is that we do not want to see a referendum because we think the recovery is more important. at the recovery is more important. the end of the recovery is more important. at the end of the day, the parliament can pass _ the end of the day, the parliament can pass resolutions _ the end of the day, the parliament can pass resolutions and _ the end of the day, the parliamenti can pass resolutions and emotions, but the _ can pass resolutions and emotions, but the reality— can pass resolutions and emotions, but the reality is _ can pass resolutions and emotions, but the reality is the _ but the reality is the responsibility- but the reality is the responsibility lies i but the reality is the l responsibility lies with but the reality is the - responsibility lies with the uk government _ responsibility lies with the uk government. of— responsibility lies with the uk government. of course - responsibility lies with the uk i government. of course scotland responsibility lies with the uk - government. of course scotland has the government. of course scotland has the right— government. of course scotland has the right to — government. of course scotland has the right to choose, _ government. of course scotland has the right to choose, we _ government. of course scotland has the right to choose, we would - government. of course scotland has the right to choose, we would never| the right to choose, we would never deny that. _ the right to choose, we would never denythat. but— the right to choose, we would never deny that, but actually the - deny that, but actually the priority. _ deny that, but actually the priority. i— deny that, but actually the priority, i believe, - deny that, but actually the priority, i believe, is- deny that, but actually the i priority, i believe, is recovery from — priority, i believe, is recovery from the _ priority, i believe, is recovery from the pandemic. - priority, i believe, is recovery from the pandemic. nothingi priority, i believe, is recovery- from the pandemic. nothing else.

your— from the pandemic. nothing else. your result, — from the pandemic. nothing else. your result, i_ from the pandemic. nothing else. your result, i gather, _ from the pandemic. nothing else. your result, i gather, will- from the pandemic. nothing else. your result, i gather, will come i from the pandemic. nothing else. your result, i gather, will come in before _ your result, i gather, will come in before the — your result, i gather, will come in before the end of the night at least — before the end of the night at least. thank you so much forjoining us. least. thank you so much for 'oining us. ~ least. thank you so much for 'oining us. . . ., , , ., us. we will certainly be there for that, us. we will certainly be there for that. kirsty- _ us. we will certainly be there for that. kirsty. an _ us. we will certainly be there for that, kirsty. an interesting - us. we will certainly be there for that, kirsty. an interesting one i us. we will certainly be there for| that, kirsty. an interesting one to say the least. we'll take a pause for the news in just say the least. we'll take a pause for the news injust the say the least. we'll take a pause for the news in just the second and will be back to talk more about the snp's remaining targets with rita. we will talk aboutjohn curtice and how he sees the overall share, the projected national share, which we will explain to you in a second. that is also coming up and we will talk to one of the senior ministers in borisjohnson's cabinet after shaun gives us the latest news. thank you very much. election results have been coming in throughout the day across england, scotland and wales, the conservatives are separating a major victory in hartlepool. the conservatives are celebrating a major victory in the hartlepool by—election, winning the seat for the first time in over 60 years. meanwhile in scotland, results in the parliament elections are still coming in — with the snp hoping to secure an outright majority and further their calls for another

independence referendum. results so far suggest it could be incredibly close. damian grammaticas reports. our political correspondent damian grammaticas reports. a tory triumph, that was not the best likeness, before borisjohnson, this was another labour stronghold demolished. jill mortimer is the first conservative mp to represent hartlepool in 57 years. if first conservative mp to represent hartlepool in 57 years.— hartlepool in 57 years. if there is a lesson out _ hartlepool in 57 years. if there is a lesson out of— hartlepool in 57 years. if there is a lesson out of this _ hartlepool in 57 years. if there is a lesson out of this whole - hartlepool in 57 years. if there is l a lesson out of this whole election campaign, local election campaign across the whole of the uk, it is that the public want politicians to get on with focusing on their needs and their priorities. band get on with focusing on their needs and their priorities.— and their priorities. and the region delivered another _ and their priorities. and the region delivered another bitter _ and their priorities. and the region delivered another bitter blow- and their priorities. and the region delivered another bitter blow for l delivered another bitter blow for labour, its candidate for tees valley mayor was soundly beaten too. the conservative incumbent return with more than 70% of the vote. in council elections, conservatives took control of nuneaton and bedworth in the west midlands, and basildon in essex. glum labourfaces as harlow in essex went to the

tories, and doubling in the west midlands too.— tories, and doubling in the west midlands too. well, i am bitterly disappointed _ midlands too. well, i am bitterly disappointed in _ midlands too. well, i am bitterly disappointed in the _ midlands too. well, i am bitterly disappointed in the result. - midlands too. well, i am bitterly disappointed in the result. and l midlands too. well, i am bitterly disappointed in the result. and i| disappointed in the result. and i take full responsibility for the results, and i will take full responsibility for fixing things. the greens have been picking up seats, hearfrom labour in sheffield. seats, hear from labour in sheffield-— seats, hear from labour in sheffield. ~ ., . . seats, hear from labour in sheffield. ~ ., . - sheffield. well done, fantastic! the liberal democrats _ sheffield. well done, fantastic! the liberal democrats from _ sheffield. well done, fantastic! the liberal democrats from the - liberal democrats from the conservatives in cambridgeshire. in the welsh parliament election, labour has lost in the vale of clwyd to the conservatives but won rhondda. the scottish highlands where it could be most consequential. the snp has taken ayr and edinburgh central, the question here — cannot nicola sturgeon get an overall majority? if so, how soon might she push independence? it can might she push independence? it can be ha - might she push independence? it can be happy and — might she push independence? it can be happy and extend _ might she push independence? it can be happy and extend are _ might she push independence? it can be happy and extend are confident that we are on track in the snp for a fourth consecutive election victory and to have the ability to

form a government again. that is an extraordinary achievement for any political party stop north and south of the border, the final shape of things will only be clear over the weekend. ~ . . , , , ., . weekend. what happens in scotland could take some _ weekend. what happens in scotland could take some of— weekend. what happens in scotland could take some of the _ weekend. what happens in scotland could take some of the wind - weekend. what happens in scotland could take some of the wind out - weekend. what happens in scotland could take some of the wind out of. could take some of the wind out of boris johnson's sales. in other news, the international travel ban for england will start to be slowly lifted in ten days' time. portugal, israel and gibraltar are on a list ofjust 12 green countries that you will be able to travel to without quaranting on return. meanwhile, turkey has been added to the red list for travel, so thousands of fans with tickets for the manchester city chelsea champions league final there at the end of the month have been told not to go. here's caroline davies. the beaches of portugal are one step closer. the green list of countries is out. from the 17th of may, anyone travelling from any of these 12 countries and territories won't need to quarantine when they arrive in england. that doesn't mean all these countries will welcome tourists

from the 17th of may. some like australia and new zealand will not. there are only 12 countries and territories on this list, passengers will be very disappointed by that as will the industry, why are there so few? we have to be cautious about this, and we don't want to overturn all the brilliant work of the british people in taking these vaccines and staying at home and all of that pain. so we can't do anything to put that at risk. three countries have also been added to the red list from 4am on wednesday including turkey, where the champions league final is due to take place later this month. the government has confirmed talks are happening to bring it to the uk and said fans shouldn't travel there. there was relief in portugal. miguel runs a restaurant in the algarve. this is an absolute amazing news. in portugal, we must

to say thank you. with the virus still circulating, some think opening international travel is still too great a risk. especially the poor nations have not even got going with their vaccination programme. so we have got to get that programme going, suppress the infections before we say international travel is now considerably safer. more countries will be added or removed from the list every three weeks, and the government say those fully vaccinated will be able to show their status on the nhs app from the 17th of may. for now, travel to most of the world is still not possible, but more is promised, just over the horizon. caroline davies, bbc news. the latest figures show 2,490 new infections in the latest 24—hour period, meaning an average of 2,060 new cases per day in the last week. 15 deaths were reported in the latest 24—hour period. 12 deaths were announced on average

every day in the past week. 127,598 people have now died. as for vaccinations, more than 35 million people have now had their first covid jab. more than 16.5 million people are now fully vaccinated. adults under the age of a0 will be offered an alternative to the oxford—astrazeneca vaccine because of concern over rare blood clots. the under—305 were already being offered a differentjab. our medical editor, fergus walsh, reports. the oxford—astrazeneca vaccine is the main workhorse of the nhs immunisation campaign, and highly effective at preventing serious covid infection. but unlike the pfizer and moderna jabs, it's been linked to a rare clotting disorder. 28.5 million doses of the oxford—astrazeneca vaccine have been given in the uk up to the last week of april. there have been 242 cases of rare

blood clots combined with low platelet levels, almost all after the first shot. the overall incidence is one in 100,000 doses, but the risks are higher for those in their 305, where it rises to one in 60,000 doses. there have been 49 deaths in total. that's two deaths per one million doses of vaccine. falling infection rates means the threat to the under 405 from covid is now so small that the potential risk from the astrazeneca vaccine to this age group looms larger. so where possible, they will be given a differentjab. we offer this advice, which places a high priority on safety, in the hope that it will further increase vaccine confidence, so that those of us who are being offered a vaccine in the coming weeks can feel more confident

and feel more able to step forward, accept the offer of the vaccine. the nhs is still on target to offer every adult a first dose by the end ofjuly, and vaccines remain the key to ending the pandemic. they have already saved over 10,000 british lives. but, actually, the greater value of these vaccines is the lives they will save in the future by keeping the disease under long—term control. and that is why we must finish the job. the under 405 play a key role in transmission of coronavirus, so vaccination will protect them in any third wave and protect the vulnerable even more. fergus walsh, bbc news. police are appealing to the public to help identify a man who was seen close to where the police community support officerjulia james was killed. they've released a photograph that was taken in kent the day

after the 53—year—old died. she was found dead in akholt wood near her home ten days ago. a postmortem revealed she died from significant head injuries. helena wilkinson reports. who is this man? detectives desperately need to know. they say he could be the key to unlocking what happened to julia james. somebody knows who that man is. we desperately need you to make contact with us and help us identify who that person is. if that person is watching, please make contact with us. we believe that you have crucial information. the man in the image that police have released today was spotted somewhere along this country lane in aylesham last wednesday, the day after the body ofjulia james was discovered. this is an area that's not far from the crime scene. where the photograph came from, or who took it, police won't say. julia james had been walking her dog when she was attacked, just a few hundred yards from her home. she suffered significant

head injuries. her husband posted this photograph of them both, saying how much he missed her. a reward of up to £10,000 has been offered by crime stoppers for information leading to a conviction in this case. officers from forces across the country have now been asked to support kent police on what continues to be a challenging case for them. on the tenth day of this investigation, they're hoping they are getting closer to the breakthrough they need. helena wilkinson, bbc news, aylesham in kent. the election results will keep coming in over the next few days. for live coverage of the results as they come in, and expert analysis of what they mean for you, visit our website or the bbc news app. now back to elections 2021.

yes, kirsty and i welcome you back to the bbc election coverage. it is 20 past eight and we have had quite a few results in. not all of them, by any means and we will both be here tomorrow also looking at more results as they come in and we can analyse them. we have reached quite analyse them. we have reached quite an important moment in the coverage because those of you who are connoisseurs of the coverage will know that at a certain point, sir john curtit and his team of expert number crunches came up with the protected national chair of the vote. john, correct me if i am wrong, but it is a projected national share. what would the parties have got in a projected share had there been a general

election same people voted in the same way. that is important as people often vote in different ways in local and regional elections. that is to give you a sense of the relative performance of the parties. let's look at the figures before we talk to john. the let's look at the figures before we talk tojohn. the projected national share is as follows. conservatives on 36%, labour on 29%, liberal democrats on 17, which is far higher than they have been doing on opinion polls today and that is to do with their local election performance and their local election performance and the others on 18%. 36 to the tories on 29 to labour, 17 to liberal democrats and 18 to the others. let's bring in sirjohn and first of all, are you happy with my definition of the pns? very good. nine out of _ definition of the pns? very good.

nine out of ten _ definition of the pns? very good. nine out of ten at _ definition of the pns? very good. nine out of ten at least. - definition of the pns? very good. nine out of ten at least. the - nine out of ten at least. the crucial point is we are trying to give you an indication of how people behave in the english local elections, just the english local elections, just the english local elections, it doesn't include the london mayoral election or scotland or wales. this is for the english local elections will stop and this is how it might translate had this been a general election. what is how it might translate had this been a general election. what do you make of these _ been a general election. what do you make of these figures? _ been a general election. what do you make of these figures? you - been a general election. what do you make of these figures? you will- been a general election. what do you make of these figures? you will see l make of these figures? you will see that there is — make of these figures? you will see that there is a _ make of these figures? you will see that there is a seven-point - that there is a seven—point conservative lead over labour. that is very much in line with what the recent opinion polls have been telling us. i reckon that on average the opinion polls have put conservatives at six points ahead while here it is seven points ahead. .2 as you have already said is the liberal democrats are doing better in this production than in the current polls, in the current polls they are only at 7% but the truth is they are only at 7% but the truth is they always do better in local

elections and if you compare, and this is the point of the excise, is to enable you to compare these local elections with previous elections and the liberal democrats are not doing as well as 2019 but better than 2018. it is part of the course of the liberal democrats, their pavement politics are still alive but this is not a sign of any significant recovery. let's go back to conservative and labour. you will remember that during the many hours we have been broadcasting we have been constantly reminding people that there are two baselines for the english local elections, one was 2016 when conservative and labour were roughly connect and the other one was 2017 when the conservatives were as much as nine or ten points ahead in the projected national share, and even more so in the polls. you can now see why indeed the conservatives have been making net gains. they is been making those

net gains. they is been making those net gains. they is been making those net gains primarily on the basis of what has happened in the 2016 councils because there is a very clear swing from labour to conservative, but equally this result is not quite so good for the conservatives as the one in 2017 and so therefore, we have been seeing that some occasional games by labour to the conservatives. another crucial point i will make and you'll remember that this morning, many a labour politician rushing to judgment on the basis of hartlepool and the relatively small amount of local election information saying that the labour party was in this dire stage and coming up with this or that strategy by sir keir starmer. i think we need to point out that at seven points, you don't expect an opposition party to be seven points behind at this point in

the polls, but it is less than the 12 point lead they had in the 2019 elections. so it would be wrong to say that the labour party has made no progress at all, although it is the progress of the snail rather than that of a hair in the opinions of some. i think there are still plenty of questions are labour party needs to address about this election result, but they have made some progress, itjust has an awful lot further to go. it progress, itjust has an awful lot further to 90-— further to go. it is interesting that ou further to go. it is interesting that you are _ further to go. it is interesting that you are saying _ further to go. it is interesting that you are saying that - further to go. it is interesting l that you are saying that labour further to go. it is interesting - that you are saying that labour has made some progress and you can see how, but indeed when we had the statement from the labour leader circular sama earlier, that was linking —— sir keir starmer, that was ringing alarm bells saying that they really need to take radical action or they will not be connecting at people that will bring it up again over and above the

tories. the signals from labour themselves, from the leadership are rather alarmist on that point. sure. rather alarmist on that point. sure, because behind _ rather alarmist on that point. sure, because behind those _ rather alarmist on that point. (is because behind those overground figures is the other thing we have been saying that the last two hours -- 12 been saying that the last two hours —— 12 hours which is that labour have been doing a lot worse compared with 2016 and 2017 and are doing worse than the vote leave parts and best in the vote remain parts. the downside of that contract is with great concern that it merits the upside. that is that the labour party believes it has to reconnect with vote leave voters and thus its traditional working class base in order to have the chance of winning an election. in truth, that could be executed but it is not the only strategy. another is quite simply to

gain votes among both remain and leave voters. you may have... you might start winning other constituencies that you don't normally win and get yourself up to another... you don't prioritise leave voters and just come up with an overall message that makes it more popular with both groups. the other strategy is to accept that you are no longer a working class pop killer party. —— popular party. they should be trying to consolidate this position amongst the more rimane inclined voters. the constituency of people who even with the and labour

still sharing with the liberal democrats in a way the... these are all possible ways of trying to deal with the labour problem. somehow it requires the labour party to think about what it requires i think the second thing that came out of this party is that labour's problem is not simply because it is too left—wing or too right—wing, it is that boris johnson left—wing or too right—wing, it is that borisjohnson has won over leave voters because of a divide. on the other hand, there are still clearly many people inside the labour party who are wanting to use those results to fight the battle between left and right. the message that both of those sides needs to take on board is actually, whether somebody is on the left on the right, matters less to whether they will vote for labour party now than it traditionally did. that cultural divide is nowjust as important. however labour party decides to

recover, it has got to think about how it will deal with the cultural divide, as well as where it stands on the left, right spectrum. john come stay _ on the left, right spectrum. john come stay with _ on the left, right spectrum. john come stay with us _ on the left, right spectrum. john come stay with us for _ on the left, right spectrum. john come stay with us for a - on the left, right spectrum. john come stay with us for a second. can we have a look at dumbarton to see what is going on there. so that we can make somejudgment what is going on there. so that we can make some judgment year. they are gathering in obviously, it seems to me that... this is going by my experience of the accounts, they are gathering and walking up. i think we will get a declaration here very soon. we arejust will get a declaration here very soon. we are just going to hopefully stay with it. are theyjust going to checkin stay with it. are theyjust going to check in the room next door? i stay with it. are they just going to check in the room next door? i think we should say _ check in the room next door? i think we should say here _ check in the room next door? i think we should say here that _ check in the room next door? i think we should say here that if— check in the room next door? i think we should say here that if the - we should say here that if the labour party hang on to dumbarton, the snp's chances of getting the majority don't disappear, but they do take another substantial fall in the likelihood of that happening. so this is potentially a pretty crucial

declaration. this is potentially a pretty crucial declaration-— this is potentially a pretty crucial declaration. , ., . . . declaration. john, thanks. we are 'ust on declaration. john, thanks. we are just on these _ declaration. john, thanks. we are just on these images. _ declaration. john, thanks. we are just on these images. i _ declaration. john, thanks. we are just on these images. i think- declaration. john, thanks. we are just on these images. i think the l just on these images. i think the agents and the staff are just gathering for a quick chat before the declaration comes. i'm grateful to the conservative mp and the vaccine deployment for waiting so graciously for talking to us. thank you so much. if that result comes from dumbarton, iwill cut you so much. if that result comes from dumbarton, i will cut off from it and then i will come back to you. first of all, your broad thoughts on how the conservative party has done. i think that if you look at the results — i think that if you look at the results in _ i think that if you look at the results in nuneaton and bedworth and nuneaton _ results in nuneaton and bedworth and nuneaton is always a bout whether in general— nuneaton is always a bout whether in general elections into which way it swings. _ general elections into which way it swings. it— general elections into which way it swings, it is where the country effectively goes and delivers a mandate to a particular party. the result _ mandate to a particular party. the result there and the result in harlow— result there and the result in harlow and basildon and in sheffield as well, _ harlow and basildon and in sheffield as well, of— harlow and basildon and in sheffield as well, of course, ben howson in

the north—east and hartlepool. i think— the north—east and hartlepool. i think that — the north—east and hartlepool. i think that voters understood the enormity— think that voters understood the enormity of the task of the pandemic. i don't think they light where _ pandemic. i don't think they light where labour was, pandemic. i don't think they light where labourwas, orat pandemic. i don't think they light where labour was, or at least sir keir starmer certainly was on this issue _ keir starmer certainly was on this issue. there were too many political warring _ issue. there were too many political warring moments for him which bothered — warring moments for him which bothered them. i think they didn't like that— bothered them. i think they didn't like that there were no policies from _ like that there were no policies from labour. john mcdonald, i don't agree _ from labour. john mcdonald, i don't agree regularly with him, but in this case — agree regularly with him, but in this case that interview with one of your colleagues robert preston, not a single _ your colleagues robert preston, not a single policy kept going on about wallpaper and curtains. i had you said that — wallpaper and curtains. i had you said that night, it could be curtains _ said that night, it could be curtains for keir starmer if he was not careful — curtains for keir starmer if he was not careful. the voters want to know what you _ not careful. the voters want to know what you can — not careful. the voters want to know what you can do for them and if you are on— what you can do for them and if you are on their— what you can do for them and if you are on their side. i think that boris — are on their side. i think that borisjohnson and his are on their side. i think that boris johnson and his team and whether— boris johnson and his team and whether it _ boris johnson and his team and whether it is a oral candidates or

our local— whether it is a oral candidates or our local councillors —— mayor candidates _ our local councillors —— mayor candidates deliver a certain position— candidates deliver a certain position onjob candidates deliver a certain position on job prospects after the pandemic, — position on job prospects after the pandemic, also into renewables and 6.4 pandemic, also into renewables and 64 billion _ pandemic, also into renewables and 6.4 billion going into the economy and the _ 6.4 billion going into the economy and the kick—start for people in jobs _ and the kick—start for people in jobs that— and the kick—start for people in jobs that parents and grandparents worry— jobs that parents and grandparents worry about. i think they had a compelling story. but they have to now really— compelling story. but they have to now really focusing deliver all of that in— now really focusing deliver all of that in the coming years. because i think— that in the coming years. because i think that _ that in the coming years. because i think that is — that in the coming years. because i think that is what people are looking — think that is what people are looking for us to do and none better boris _ looking for us to do and none better borisjohnson. he has that ability, both when he was mayor of london and now prime minister, supply and deployment. he has that sort of obsessive laser—like focus on delivering, delivering, and that will make all the difference. minister, there will

be viewers watching thinking, "ok, he went on the campaign trail, he went to wales because i know to some of those visits, this compelling story, he didn't want to take to scotland because he didn't go there." why was that? he scotland because he didn't go there. " why was that? he went to visit the factory _ there. " why was that? he went to visit the factory which _ there. " why was that? he went to visit the factory which is _ there. " why was that? he went to visit the factory which is making i visit the factory which is making one of— visit the factory which is making one of our— visit the factory which is making one of our vaccines, a big investment made. a french company that has— investment made. a french company that has invested in a big manufacturing facility. we the government has also further invested in expanding that facility, and boris — in expanding that facility, and boris visited the. at the time, i think— boris visited the. at the time, i think nicola sturgeon said he shouldn't be here, he was absolutely i’i l i'it shouldn't be here, he was absolutely right to _ shouldn't be here, he was absolutely right to be _ shouldn't be here, he was absolutely right to be there. the scottish team have done _ right to be there. the scottish team have done a — right to be there. the scottish team have done a tremendousjob right to be there. the scottish team have done a tremendous job to focus this election on what we are going to do— this election on what we are going to do to _ this election on what we are going to do to make sure the children of scotland _ to do to make sure the children of scotland catch up on their education? the education system used to be the _ education? the education system used to be the pride of the world... , 'ust to be the pride of the world... just stop to be the pride of the world... , just stop you, sorry? dumbarton. i

hereby give notice that the total number— hereby give notice that the total number of— hereby give notice that the total number of ballot _ hereby give notice that the total number of ballot papers - hereby give notice that the total| number of ballot papers counted hereby give notice that the total. number of ballot papers counted in the dumbarton— number of ballot papers counted in the dumbarton constituency- number of ballot papers counted in the dumbarton constituency is - the dumbarton constituency is 38.565 — the dumbarton constituency is 38.565 the _ the dumbarton constituency is 38,565. the electorate - the dumbarton constituency is 38,565. the electorate was i the dumbarton constituency is - 38,565. the electorate was 56,296. the turnout — 38,565. the electorate was 56,296. the turnout is — 38,565. the electorate was 56,296. the turnout is 68.5%. _ 38,565. the electorate was 56,296. the turnout is 68.5%. the - 38,565. the electorate was 56,296. the turnout is 68.5%. the total- the turnout is 68.5%. the total number — the turnout is 68.5%. the total number of _ the turnout is 68.5%. the total number of votes _ the turnout is 68.5%. the total number of votes cast _ the turnout is 68.5%. the total number of votes cast for- the turnout is 68.5%. the total number of votes cast for each i number of votes cast for each candidate _ number of votes cast for each candidate in— number of votes cast for each candidate in this _ number of votes cast for each candidate in this constituencyj number of votes cast for each . candidate in this constituency is number of votes cast for each - candidate in this constituency is as follows: _ candidate in this constituency is as follows: mark— candidate in this constituency is as follows: markjackie _ candidate in this constituency is as follows: markjackie baillie, - follows: markjackie baillie, scottish _ follows: markjackie baillie, scottish labour— follows: markjackie baillie, scottish labour party - follows: markjackie baillie,| scottish labour party 17,825. applause _ applause scottish conservatives and unionist party, _ scottish conservatives and unionist party. 3205. — scottish conservatives and unionist party, 3205. scottish— scottish conservatives and unionist party, 3205. scottish liberal- party, 3205. scottish liberal democrats. _ party, 3205. scottish liberal democrats, 676. _ party, 3205. scottish liberal democrats, 676. scottish. party, 3205. scottish liberal- democrats, 676. scottish national party. _ democrats, 676. scottish national party. snp. — democrats, 676. scottish national

party. snp.16.342._ democrats, 676. scottish national party, snp, 16,342. james- democrats, 676. scottish national. party, snp, 16,342. james morrison, independent. _ party, snp, 16,342. james morrison, independent, 183. _ party, snp, 16,342. james morrison, independent, 183. independent, - party, snp, 16,342. james morrison, independent, 183. independent, 94. | independent, 183. independent, 94. scottish— independent, 183. independent, 94. scottish libertarian— independent, 183. independent, 94. scottish libertarian party, _ independent, 183. independent, 94. scottish libertarian party, 134. - independent, 183. independent, 94. scottish libertarian party, 134. and. scottish libertarian party, 134. and the total— scottish libertarian party, 134. and the total number— scottish libertarian party, 134. and the total number of— scottish libertarian party, 134. and the total number of rejected - scottish libertarian party, 134. and the total number of rejected votesi the total number of rejected votes was 106 _ the total number of rejected votes was 106 the _ the total number of rejected votes was 106. the reason _ the total number of rejected votes was 106. the reason for— the total number of rejected votes was 106. the reason for the - was 106. the reason for the rejections— was 106. the reason for the rejections are _ was 106. the reason for the rejections are as _ was 106. the reason for the rejections are as follows: i was 106. the reason for the . rejections are as follows: want was 106. the reason for the - rejections are as follows: want of an official— rejections are as follows: want of an official mark, _ rejections are as follows: want of an official mark, 1, _ rejections are as follows: want of an official mark, 1, voting - rejections are as follows: want of an official mark, 1, voting for- rejections are as follows: want of. an official mark, 1, voting for more than _ an official mark, 1, voting for more than one _ an official mark, 1, voting for more than one candidate... _ an official mark, 1, voting for more than one candidate... ship- an official mark, 1, voting for more than one candidate. . ._ an official mark, 1, voting for more than one candidate... snp is number one target. — than one candidate... snp is number one target, dumbarton, _ than one candidate... snp is number one target, dumbarton, has - than one candidate... snp is number one target, dumbarton, has not - one target, dumbarton, has not fallen to them. in fact, jackie baillie the deputy leader of labour at the scottish parliament has increased her majority. remember she had a majority of 109. let's go through now and look at the votes cast. there we have jackie baillie on 17,826. the snp on 16,342. let's look at how that share of the change

in the share of the vote. it looks as if, as we can see, labour put on as if, as we can see, labour put on a six percentage points, the snp dropped three, the conservatives dropped three, the conservatives drop to six, and the lib dems dropped two. the swing from snp to labour is 1.8%. look at that switch between the conservatives and labour, what has happened here is that jackie baillie, labour, what has happened here is thatjackie baillie, a long—standing member of the scottish parliament since 1999, has added to her tally, taking conservative votes, tactical voting where she has seen in that area as the best defender of the union. we arejoined now by andrew wilson who wrote the sustainability report on scotland, former msp. what do you make of that? that was the number one target a big blow for you. i number one target a big blow for ou. ~' . . number one target a big blow for ou. ~ , . . , you. i think it is a great result forjackie. _ you. i think it is a great result forjackie, congratulations. i you. i think it is a great result i forjackie, congratulations. she you. i think it is a great result - forjackie, congratulations. she has been— forjackie, congratulations. she has been in— forjackie, congratulations. she has been in this— forjackie, congratulations. she has been in this parliament since the

beginning — been in this parliament since the beginning and is a great public servant — beginning and is a great public servant. you cannot win every seats, we have — servant. you cannot win every seats, we have won _ servant. you cannot win every seats, we have won three seats today. it looks _ we have won three seats today. it looks like — we have won three seats today. it looks like the snp is on course for a historic— looks like the snp is on course for a historic fourth term which is unprecedented in this parliament. it looks— unprecedented in this parliament. it looks likely there will be a pro—independence majority tomorrow, but we _ pro—independence majority tomorrow, but we will _ pro—independence majority tomorrow, but we will have to wait and see. i think— but we will have to wait and see. i think it _ but we will have to wait and see. i think it has — but we will have to wait and see. i think it has been across the country. _ think it has been across the country, tactical voting in some areas _ country, tactical voting in some areas the — country, tactical voting in some areas the swing has been very inconsistent. this will happen, but congratulations to jackie. i don't think— congratulations to jackie. i don't think it — congratulations to jackie. i don't think it will be material to the outcome _ think it will be material to the outcome of the election. it is interesting — outcome of the election. it is interesting because - outcome of the election. it 3 interesting because talking about lending votes, it means labour supporters are prepared to hand that voters to the tories and vice versa in order to make some kind of strong unionist stance here. you are looking at probably this majority, either most likely with the greens rather than on your own. it is interesting because it is a fourth term, by any standard for a party to reach a fourth term on this showing is by no means surely a disappointment for the nationalists?

quite the opposite, it is an amazing, _ quite the opposite, it is an amazing, so far, outcome that a fourth _ amazing, so far, outcome that a fourth term _ amazing, so far, outcome that a fourth term government. not only that, _ fourth term government. not only that. but— fourth term government. not only that, but with the greens having in their manifesto commitment to a referendum, as to the snp, you are seeing _ referendum, as to the snp, you are seeing after — referendum, as to the snp, you are seeing after a period of remarkable, how to _ seeing after a period of remarkable, how to put _ seeing after a period of remarkable, how to put it? shenanigans in scottish— how to put it? shenanigans in scottish politics,... | how to put it? shenanigans in scottish politics,...— how to put it? shenanigans in scottish politics,... i will keep ou scottish politics,... i will keep you there. _ scottish politics,... i will keep you there. i — scottish politics,... i will keep you there, i just _ scottish politics,... i will keep you there, i just want - scottish politics,... i will keep you there, i just want a - scottish politics,... i will keep you there, i just want a word i scottish politics,... i will keep i you there, i just want a word with you there, ijust want a word with john curtice. let's be clear, do you think there is a pathway to outright victory for the snp there or is it more likely to be snp plus green? there is still a pathway to an overall— there is still a pathway to an overall majority, _ there is still a pathway to an overall majority, kirsty, - there is still a pathway to an overall majority, kirsty, but| there is still a pathway to ani overall majority, kirsty, but it there is still a pathway to an . overall majority, kirsty, but it is a very— overall majority, kirsty, but it is a very narrow _ overall majority, kirsty, but it is a very narrow one. _ overall majority, kirsty, but it is a very narrow one. there - overall majority, kirsty, but it is a very narrow one. there are . overall majority, kirsty, but it is a very narrow one. there are a i a very narrow one. there are a couple _ a very narrow one. there are a couple of — a very narrow one. there are a couple of constituencies - a very narrow one. there are a couple of constituencies left, i couple of constituencies left, conservative _ couple of constituencies left, conservative held _ couple of constituencies left, i conservative held constituencies like gallery— conservative held constituencies like gallery and _ conservative held constituencies like gallery and aberdeenshire l conservative held constituencies- like gallery and aberdeenshire west where _ like gallery and aberdeenshire west where the _ like gallery and aberdeenshire west where the snp — like gallery and aberdeenshire west where the snp might— like gallery and aberdeenshire west where the snp mightjust _ like gallery and aberdeenshire west where the snp mightjust pick- like gallery and aberdeenshire west where the snp mightjust pick up. . like gallery and aberdeenshire westl where the snp mightjust pick up. to be honest. _ where the snp mightjust pick up. to be honest. on— where the snp mightjust pick up. to be honest, on the _ where the snp mightjust pick up. to be honest, on the basis— where the snp mightjust pick up. to be honest, on the basis of— where the snp mightjust pick up. to be honest, on the basis of results- be honest, on the basis of results so far. _ be honest, on the basis of results so far. we — be honest, on the basis of results so far, we think _ be honest, on the basis of results so far, we think it— be honest, on the basis of results so far, we think it is— be honest, on the basis of results so far, we think it is less - be honest, on the basis of results so far, we think it is less than - so far, we think it is less than likely — so far, we think it is less than likely then— so far, we think it is less than likely. then they _ so far, we think it is less than likely. then they might - so far, we think it is less than likely. then they might just . so far, we think it is less than . likely. then they mightjust pick so far, we think it is less than - likely. then they mightjust pick up a seat _ likely. then they mightjust pick up a seat in _ likely. then they mightjust pick up a seat in the — likely. then they mightjust pick up a seat in the highlands. _ likely. then they mightjust pick up a seat in the highlands. for- likely. then they mightjust pick up a seat in the highlands. for all- likely. then they mightjust pick up a seat in the highlands. for all of. a seat in the highlands. for all of that, _ a seat in the highlands. for all of that. that — a seat in the highlands. for all of that. that may— a seat in the highlands. for all of that, that may still— a seat in the highlands. for all of that, that may still take - a seat in the highlands. for all of that, that may still take them - a seat in the highlands. for all of that, that may still take them to| that, that may still take them to 65. that, that may still take them to 65~ i_ that, that may still take them to 65~ ithink. _ that, that may still take them to 65~ ithink. as— that, that may still take them to 65. i think, as andrew—

that, that may still take them to 65. i think, as andrew wilson i that, that may still take them to 65. i think, as andrew wilson is| 65. i think, as andrew wilson is beginning — 65. i think, as andrew wilson is beginning to _ 65. i think, as andrew wilson is beginning to acknowledge, - 65. i think, as andrew wilson is beginning to acknowledge, it i 65. i think, as andrew wilson is beginning to acknowledge, it is| 65. i think, as andrew wilson is - beginning to acknowledge, it is now the most _ beginning to acknowledge, it is now the most probable _ beginning to acknowledge, it is now the most probable outcome - beginning to acknowledge, it is now the most probable outcome being l beginning to acknowledge, it is now. the most probable outcome being that the most probable outcome being that the snp _ the most probable outcome being that the snp is _ the most probable outcome being that the snp is going — the most probable outcome being that the snp is going to _ the most probable outcome being that the snp is going to be _ the most probable outcome being that the snp is going to be one _ the most probable outcome being that the snp is going to be one or- the most probable outcome being that the snp is going to be one or two - the snp is going to be one or two seats— the snp is going to be one or two seats short — the snp is going to be one or two seats short and _ the snp is going to be one or two seats short and we _ the snp is going to be one or two seats short and we are _ the snp is going to be one or two seats short and we are thereforei seats short and we are therefore looking — seats short and we are therefore looking at — seats short and we are therefore looking at an _ seats short and we are therefore looking at an snp— _ seats short and we are therefore looking at an snp— green- seats short and we are therefore. looking at an snp— green majority for a _ looking at an snp— green majority for a referendum _ looking at an snp— green majority for a referendum rather— looking at an snp— green majority for a referendum rather than- looking at an snp— green majority for a referendum rather than the i looking at an snp— green majority. for a referendum rather than the snp on their— for a referendum rather than the snp on their own — for a referendum rather than the snp on theirown~ i— for a referendum rather than the snp on their own. i think _ for a referendum rather than the snp on their own. i think two _ for a referendum rather than the snp on their own. i think two things - for a referendum rather than the snp on their own. i think two things mayi on their own. i think two things may flow from _ on their own. i think two things may flow from that: _ on their own. i think two things may flow from that: the _ on their own. i think two things may flow from that: the first _ on their own. i think two things may flow from that: the first is _ on their own. i think two things may flow from that: the first is that - flow from that: the first is that the uk — flow from that: the first is that the uk government— flow from that: the first is that the uk government will- flow from that: the first is that the uk government will feel. flow from that: the first is that. the uk government will feel more emboldened — the uk government will feel more emboldened to— the uk government will feel more emboldened to say— the uk government will feel more emboldened to say no _ the uk government will feel more emboldened to say no to - the uk government will feel more emboldened to say no to the - the uk government will feel more i emboldened to say no to the request that is— emboldened to say no to the request that is bound — emboldened to say no to the request that is bound to— emboldened to say no to the request that is bound to happen _ emboldened to say no to the request that is bound to happen at _ emboldened to say no to the request that is bound to happen at some - that is bound to happen at some point _ that is bound to happen at some point from — that is bound to happen at some point from the _ that is bound to happen at some point from the new— that is bound to happen at some point from the new parliament. i that is bound to happen at some i point from the new parliament. but secondly. _ point from the new parliament. but secondly. it— point from the new parliament. but secondly. it may— point from the new parliament. but secondly, it may actually _ point from the new parliament. but secondly, it may actually speed - point from the new parliament. but secondly, it may actually speed upi secondly, it may actually speed up the constitutional— secondly, it may actually speed up the constitutional clash, _ secondly, it may actually speed up the constitutional clash, one - the constitutional clash, one suspects _ the constitutional clash, one suspects that— the constitutional clash, one suspects that some - the constitutional clash, one suspects that some people i the constitutional clash, one - suspects that some people inside the snp will— suspects that some people inside the snp will regard — suspects that some people inside the snp will regard this _ suspects that some people inside the snp will regard this as _ suspects that some people inside the snp will regard this as a _ snp will regard this as a disappointment. - snp will regard this as a disappointment. and . snp will regard this as a i disappointment. and some snp will regard this as a - disappointment. and some of snp will regard this as a _ disappointment. and some of them at least will— disappointment. and some of them at least will argue — disappointment. and some of them at least will argue that _ disappointment. and some of them at least will argue that one _ disappointment. and some of them at least will argue that one reason - disappointment. and some of them at least will argue that one reason for. least will argue that one reason for this is— least will argue that one reason for this is miss— least will argue that one reason for this is miss sturgeon— least will argue that one reason for this is miss sturgeon has— least will argue that one reason for this is miss sturgeon has not- least will argue that one reason for this is miss sturgeon has not been| this is miss sturgeon has not been pursuing _ this is miss sturgeon has not been pursuing the — this is miss sturgeon has not been pursuing the independent- this is miss sturgeon has not been pursuing the independent projecti this is miss sturgeon has not been. pursuing the independent project and the independence _ pursuing the independent project and the independence referendum - pursuing the independent project and. the independence referendum strongly enough _ the independence referendum strongly enough miss— the independence referendum strongly enough. miss sturgeon— the independence referendum strongly enough. miss sturgeon i— the independence referendum strongly enough. miss sturgeon i think- the independence referendum strongly enough. miss sturgeon i think will- enough. miss sturgeon i think will be in _ enough. miss sturgeon i think will be in a _ enough. miss sturgeon i think will be in a weaker— enough. miss sturgeon i think will be in a weaker position _ enough. miss sturgeon i think will be in a weaker position vis—a—vis i be in a weaker position vis—a—vis her party. — be in a weaker position vis—a—vis her party. that— be in a weaker position vis—a—vis her party, that will— be in a weaker position vis—a—vis her party, that will give - be in a weaker position vis—a—vis her party, that will give her- be in a weaker position vis—a—vis her party, that will give her less| her party, that will give her less room _ her party, that will give her less room for— her party, that will give her less room for manoeuvre _ her party, that will give her less room for manoeuvre in - her party, that will give her less room for manoeuvre in terms i her party, that will give her less room for manoeuvre in terms of

trying _ room for manoeuvre in terms of trying to— room for manoeuvre in terms of trying to play— room for manoeuvre in terms of trying to play the _ room for manoeuvre in terms of trying to play the timing - room for manoeuvre in terms of trying to play the timing of- room for manoeuvre in terms of trying to play the timing of the i trying to play the timing of the referendum _ trying to play the timing of the referendum or— trying to play the timing of the referendum or the _ trying to play the timing of the referendum or the referendum trying to play the timing of the - referendum or the referendum request lon- referendum or the referendum request long rather— referendum or the referendum request long rather than— referendum or the referendum request long rather than short. _ referendum or the referendum request long rather than short. miss— long rather than short. miss sturgeon _ long rather than short. miss sturgeon because _ long rather than short. miss sturgeon because she - long rather than short. miss sturgeon because she is i long rather than short. miss sturgeon because she is in. long rather than short. miss| sturgeon because she is in a long rather than short. miss- sturgeon because she is in a weaker position— sturgeon because she is in a weaker position may— sturgeon because she is in a weaker position may now— sturgeon because she is in a weaker position may now want _ sturgeon because she is in a weaker position may now want to _ sturgeon because she is in a weaker position may now want to push i sturgeon because she is in a weaker position may now want to push for l position may now want to push for the referendum _ position may now want to push for the referendum more _ position may now want to push for the referendum more than- position may now want to push for the referendum more than more l the referendum more than more strongly, — the referendum more than more strongly, but_ the referendum more than more strongly, but at_ the referendum more than more strongly, but at the _ the referendum more than more strongly, but at the same - the referendum more than more strongly, but at the same time, | strongly, but at the same time, boris _ strongly, but at the same time, borisjohnson _ strongly, but at the same time, borisjohnson may— strongly, but at the same time, boris johnson may now - strongly, but at the same time, boris johnson may now feel- strongly, but at the same time, - boris johnson may now feel somewhat more emboldened _ boris johnson may now feel somewhat more emboldened to— boris johnson may now feel somewhat more emboldened to try _ boris johnson may now feel somewhat more emboldened to try to _ boris johnson may now feel somewhat more emboldened to try to put - boris johnson may now feel somewhat more emboldened to try to put her- more emboldened to try to put her off. �* t, more emboldened to try to put her off. �* l, , more emboldened to try to put her off. �* t, , t, t, off. before i put that back to andrew wilson, _ off. before i put that back to andrew wilson, what - off. before i put that back to andrew wilson, what about | off. before i put that back to i andrew wilson, what about the inverse of that? what alex massie was saying is that if you were to say to people right now in scotland if they wanted an independence referendum, the result of that opinion opinion poll would be 29% or so if you were to wait five or ten years, it would be 45%. what about the possibility that nicola sturgeon does not want a referendum right now but she needs to put her case again and what then for boris johnson but she needs to put her case again and what then for borisjohnson is he might sweep and counter intuitively in counter intuitively and save, "you want a referendum? you have to have it now." fin and save, "you want a referendum? you have to have it now."— you have to have it now." on that articular you have to have it now." on that particular saturday, _ you have to have it now." on that particular saturday, it _ you have to have it now." on that particular saturday, it would - you have to have it now." on that| particular saturday, it would mean you have to have it now." on that i particular saturday, it would mean a complete _ particular saturday, it would mean a complete 180 — particular saturday, it would mean a complete 180 degrees _ particular saturday, it would mean a complete 180 degrees turn -

particular saturday, it would mean a complete 180 degrees turn from - particular saturday, it would mean a complete 180 degrees turn from thei complete 180 degrees turn from the claim of— complete 180 degrees turn from the claim of the — complete 180 degrees turn from the claim of the conservative _ complete 180 degrees turn from the claim of the conservative party - claim of the conservative party during — claim of the conservative party during this _ claim of the conservative party during this election, _ claim of the conservative party during this election, it - claim of the conservative party during this election, it would . claim of the conservative party l during this election, it would be, claim of the conservative party i during this election, it would be, i think. _ during this election, it would be, i think. one — during this election, it would be, i think. one of— during this election, it would be, i think, one of the _ during this election, it would be, i think, one of the most _ during this election, it would be, i| think, one of the most remarkable u-turns _ think, one of the most remarkable u-turns in — think, one of the most remarkable u—turns in british— think, one of the most remarkable u—turns in british politics - think, one of the most remarkable u—turns in british politics if- think, one of the most remarkable u—turns in british politics if he - u—turns in british politics if he were _ u—turns in british politics if he were suddenly— u—turns in british politics if he were suddenly to _ u—turns in british politics if he were suddenly to go _ u—turns in british politics if he were suddenly to go down - u—turns in british politics if he| were suddenly to go down that u—turns in british politics if he - were suddenly to go down that path. we are _ were suddenly to go down that path. we are talking — were suddenly to go down that path. we are talking about _ were suddenly to go down that path. we are talking about boris _ were suddenly to go down that path. we are talking about borisjohnson! i we are talking about borisjohnson! we are talking about borisjohnson! we are talking about borisjohnson! we are talking about a country that is pretty— we are talking about a country that is pretty much_ we are talking about a country that is pretty much divided _ we are talking about a country that is pretty much divided down - we are talking about a country that is pretty much divided down the . is pretty much divided down the middle — is pretty much divided down the middle on — is pretty much divided down the middle on the _ is pretty much divided down the middle on the merits _ is pretty much divided down the middle on the merits of- middle on the merits of independence. - middle on the merits of independence. it - middle on the merits of independence. it will. middle on the merits of| independence. it will be middle on the merits of. independence. it will be a middle on the merits of— independence. it will be a gamble, where _ independence. it will be a gamble, where we — independence. it will be a gamble, where we are — independence. it will be a gamble, where we are at _ independence. it will be a gamble, where we are at the _ independence. it will be a gamble, where we are at the moment, - independence. it will be a gamble, where we are at the moment, a i independence. it will be a gamble, - where we are at the moment, a gamble for troth— where we are at the moment, a gamble for both sides _ where we are at the moment, a gamble for both sides of— where we are at the moment, a gamble for both sides of the _ where we are at the moment, a gamble for both sides of the referendum - where we are at the moment, a gamble for both sides of the referendum was i for both sides of the referendum was heid~ _ for both sides of the referendum was heid~ and _ for both sides of the referendum was heid~ and mr— for both sides of the referendum was held. and mrjohnson _ for both sides of the referendum was held. and mrjohnson would - for both sides of the referendum was held. and mrjohnson would be - for both sides of the referendum was| held. and mrjohnson would be facing the possibility— held. and mrjohnson would be facing the possibility that _ held. and mrjohnson would be facing the possibility that he _ held. and mrjohnson would be facing the possibility that he would - the possibility that he would actually _ the possibility that he would actually lose. _ the possibility that he would actually lose. so _ the possibility that he would actually lose. so some - the possibility that he would l actually lose. so some pretty obvious— actually lose. so some pretty obvious downside _ actually lose. so some pretty obvious downside to - actually lose. so some pretty obvious downside to this, - actually lose. so some pretty| obvious downside to this, one actually lose. so some pretty i obvious downside to this, one is actually lose. so some pretty - obvious downside to this, one is you are arguably— obvious downside to this, one is you are arguably undermining _ obvious downside to this, one is you are arguably undermining your- are arguably undermining your credibility— are arguably undermining your credibility if— are arguably undermining your credibility if you _ are arguably undermining your credibility if you are—like - are arguably undermining your credibility if you are—like if - are arguably undermining yourl credibility if you are—like if your centrai— credibility if you are—like if your central message, _ credibility if you are—like if your central message, and - credibility if you are—like if your central message, and secondly| credibility if you are—like if your- central message, and secondly you are bringing — central message, and secondly you are bringing on— central message, and secondly you are bringing on a _ central message, and secondly you are bringing on a contest _ central message, and secondly you are bringing on a contest which - central message, and secondly you are bringing on a contest which you are bringing on a contest which you are by— are bringing on a contest which you are by no— are bringing on a contest which you are try no nteens— are bringing on a contest which you are by no means guaranteed - are bringing on a contest which you are by no means guaranteed to- are bringing on a contest which you| are by no means guaranteed to win. andrew— are by no means guaranteed to win. andrew wilson. _ are by no means guaranteed to win. andrew wilson, what _ are by no means guaranteed to win. andrew wilson, what is _ are by no means guaranteed to win. andrew wilson, what is your- are by no means guaranteed to win.| andrew wilson, what is your analysis of that? , ., ,._ , of that? the first thing to say is there will literally _ of that? the first thing to say is there will literally be _ of that? the first thing to say is there will literally be no - of that? the first thing to say is there will literally be no one - of that? the first thing to say is there will literally be no one in| there will literally be no one in there will literally be no one in the snp — there will literally be no one in the snp disappointed with this result— the snp disappointed with this result today. on course for what is happenind — result today. on course for what is happening. the second thing is i

have _ happening. the second thing is i have never— happening. the second thing is i have never set at any point that i thought — have never set at any point that i thought an — have never set at any point that i thought an snp majority was likely because _ thought an snp majority was likely because there is not a country on the planet— because there is not a country on the planet where there is a pr systen1 — the planet where there is a pr system where one party has an overall— system where one party has an overall majority. but system where one party has an overall majority.— overall ma'ority. but you did in 2011. that— overall majority. but you did in 2011. that has _ overall majority. but you did in 2011. that has different - 2011. that has different circumstances - 2011. that has different circumstances with - 2011. that has different - circumstances with unionist and 2011. that has different _ circumstances with unionist and the snp. circumstances with unionist and the snp if— circumstances with unionist and the snp if we — circumstances with unionist and the snp. if we are going to do this, if scotland — snp. if we are going to do this, if scotland is — snp. if we are going to do this, if scotland is going to choose independence, the uk government needs— independence, the uk government needs to _ independence, the uk government needs to decide if the uk is held together— needs to decide if the uk is held together by force of law or by force of consent — together by force of law or by force of consent and democracy? i think this country— of consent and democracy? i think this country has to be built on democracy, and most people agree. the second — democracy, and most people agree. the second point is if scotland is going _ the second point is if scotland is going to — the second point is if scotland is going to do this, we need to do it in a way— going to do this, we need to do it in a way that is the opposite, the antithesis— in a way that is the opposite, the antithesis of the antidote to brexit _ antithesis of the antidote to brexit. we need a prospectus that is clear about — brexit. we need a prospectus that is clear about all the trade—offs, what the transition looks like, that need to be _ the transition looks like, that need to be set— the transition looks like, that need to be set out in advance will stop this needs — to be set out in advance will stop this needs to be done in an orderly fashion _ this needs to be done in an orderly fashion when people are ready. i don't fashion when people are ready. don't know fashion when people are ready. i don't know if you have the alex salmond interview there, he seemed to be suggesting, not suggesting that nicola sturgeon went back slightly, but indicating that actually he wanted to reenergise the move towards an independence

referendum vote. we know from alex salmond in the past but he has said that there is no need to wait for a section 30 from borisjohnson, if you have the consent of the pollen, you have the consent of the pollen, you can go for that. nicola sturgeon has been pretty implacably opposed to that. , ., ., , . ., to that. either you get a section 30, to that. either you get a section 30. that'll _ to that. either you get a section 30. that'll be — to that. either you get a section 30, that'll be the _ to that. either you get a section 30, that'll be the way _ to that. either you get a section 30, that'll be the way to - to that. either you get a section 30, that'll be the way to do - to that. either you get a section 30, that'll be the way to do it, | to that. either you get a section. 30, that'll be the way to do it, or the scottish parliament can legislate for it, then it is up to boris — legislate for it, then it is up to borisjohnson to take legislate for it, then it is up to boris johnson to take it to the courts — boris johnson to take it to the courts. the orderly thing to do is to recognise people's right to self—determination. every prime minister— self—determination. every prime minister since i was born held to that position, borisjohnson is different. _ that position, borisjohnson is different, we know he is different. if it different, we know he is different. if it is _ different, we know he is different. if it is going to be done, it needs to be _ if it is going to be done, it needs to be done — if it is going to be done, it needs to be done in an orderly way. the opposite — to be done in an orderly way. the opposite of— to be done in an orderly way. the opposite of brexit, a clear white paper— opposite of brexit, a clear white paper setting out all of the issues, currency, — paper setting out all of the issues, currency, deficit, border. how many years— currency, deficit, border. how many years after— currency, deficit, border. how many years after the brexit vote, we still don't _ years after the brexit vote, we still don't really know what the border— still don't really know what the border setting will be and how it will evolve between us and northern ireiand _ will evolve between us and northern ireland. that is how not to do it, scotland — ireland. that is how not to do it, scotland will do it differently. thank — scotland will do it differently. thank you very much indeed. a quick u date on thank you very much indeed. a quick update on some _ thank you very much indeed. a quick update on some of— thank you very much indeed. a quick update on some of the _ thank you very much indeed. a quick update on some of the results - thank you very much indeed. a quick update on some of the results that i update on some of the results that have come in while the guests they were talking to kirsty. plaid cymru

leader adam price has been re—elected in carmarthen east. labour have held on to cynon valley. a very bad result for the lib dems because their only constituency member of the senedd in wales was kirsty williams, the former education minister, she has stood down at this time. the lib dems have lost at sea, the conservatives have gained that seat. a boost to the conservatives too you actually have the parliamentary seat for westminster as well. an interesting seatin westminster as well. an interesting seat in itself. we were talking about the projected national shadow let me know argue again of whatjohn curtice shared with us a short while ago. the projected national share, this is what would have happened if there had been an election in

england, based on these folks today, the big qualification there. 36 to the big qualification there. 36 to the tories, 29 to labour, i7 the big qualification there. 36 to the tories, 29 to labour, 17 to the lib dems. as i say, it is based on a different voting pattern, and 18 to the others. with that in mind and that gap of seven points between labour and the conservatives, i will welcome peter kyle, the labour mp for hove, the shadowjustice minster. i know you are a big vote of thanks for being so patient and waiting to talk to us, thank you very much forjoining us. that projected national share, that gap of 7%, does that surprise you? does that convert you? where are you on that? lam i am certainly not comforted. these are very disappointing results. the act that we have lost places like hartlepool in the by—election there is a real blow for the labour party. we have a lot of shared history with the industrial history of places like hartlepool and the fact that a

community like that has decided to part ways with us at this particular moment in time is a very difficult thing for us to stomach. we will learn a lot from it and also we will use this defeat in the selection to rebound and regroup and come back with a change labour party and a labour party that is changing faster and deeper. those are the words of keir starmer today and whereas today is a very difficult day for us, actually, there is great optimism and i believe that we are going to use this moment in time to realign the priorities with the labour party to match those of the country, because they have told us quite loudly and clearly in the set of elections that they feel our priorities are not aligned with theirs. if we do, ifeel there is a very great future for the labour party, not in the very distant future, but in the short term. i’m future, but in the short term. i'm aroin to future, but in the short term. i'm going to come — future, but in the short term. i'm going to come back to the change and

realigning priorities and what that means. the first thing i said... it was becausejohn curtice and i were discussing earlier and noticing the seven—point gap in the national share and given the way that some of the labour figures have share and given the way that some of the labourfigures have responded today, including keir starmer early run when he gave that interview, as john was suggesting, it looked as if it was a double—figure gap. why the intense reaction from some people as if it was a complete and utter meltdown, which you could argue looking at your councils and everything else, it is disappointing and clearly you have had several bad blows, but 7% is something that is not insurmountable. given that, i am just wondering, gave viewers a bit of an example. a practical example. when you talk about realigning priorities with voters, what is a

practical example of that? i'm talking about a policy offering, really. how do you realign your priorities in that sense? first of all, i priorities in that sense? first of all. i take _ priorities in that sense? first of all, i take your _ priorities in that sense? first of all, i take your point. _ priorities in that sense? first of all, i take your point. the - priorities in that sense? first of. all, i take your point. the labour party in the south of england has made gains, in surrey, and taken a seat of the tories in the isle of wight and in kent also. there are a optimistic side here, but overall the reason the labour party are struggling today if some of our real hartland, the communities that have been wedded to the labour party and we have served for so long, have turned against us and that is why it is a difficult david labour party. in terms of moving forward with practical examples is simply because the public is told us and i have heard it many times this week, i have been across the country in various different places, people have said that the labour party is talking too much to itself on serving some of the interest that are priorities for the labour party are priorities for the labour party are not talking enough to the interests of working people up and

down the country. i think you are going to see in the coming weeks and in the coming months and perhaps much sooner, a sharp realignment where the labour party is more aligned with the economic realities of everyday working people up and down the country. i think that is one of the clear examples you're going to see in the coming days and weeks. we have been told that in certain areas, we talk too much about some of the contemporary cultural issues and not enough about some of the hard realities faced and the economic realities faced by people who are not down at the very, very bottom in the words of some of the voters who have spoken to me and who aren't at the very top, and we sometimes talk too much about them and the money and then in terms of taxation, but everyday working people, who are working incredibly hard and want to be recognised more by the labour party. that is what i am talking about and i think that is

what keir starmer is talking about and those are the kind of things you can see lots more of in the coming days and weeks. can see lots more of in the coming days and weeks— can see lots more of in the coming days and weeks. some four colleagues of ours in days and weeks. some four colleagues of yours in the — days and weeks. some four colleagues of yours in the commons _ days and weeks. some four colleagues of yours in the commons have - days and weeks. some four colleagues of yours in the commons have been i of yours in the commons have been saying that this is exactly what jeremy corbyn was about. he was about a line party for the interests of working people. what are these people talking about? what is your answer to them? i people talking about? what is your answer to them?— people talking about? what is your answer to them? i don't recognise a correlation between _ answer to them? i don't recognise a correlation between the _ answer to them? i don't recognise a correlation between the two. - answer to them? i don't recognise a correlation between the two. the i correlation between the two. the voters have told us categorically are numerous elections, don't forget that we lost 60 mp5 are numerous elections, don't forget that we lost 60 mps in the 2019 election that we won't align to them. so i'm sorry, there is an electoral reality that is at stake in the business of politics and it is unavoidable. we have to accept that the public have say that we have drifted from the priorities and we are not speaking to them, and actually, keir starmer has said very clear today that he is going to review policies, i'm pleased about

that and it will be a quick review and he will go deeper and faster in realigning the labour party. we have also got to stop, in the eye of the public talking to ourselves too often and then break out to a conversation that routes ourselves and the values of britain, celebrates the values of britain, is comfortable with our history, culture and achievements of the country and figures out where we are going as a country and put our values and principles to work to serve that teacher and deliver a better future than we are enjoying at the moment. we need to rebuild after the bad brexit deal, we need to rebuild after the pandemic. we have a very exciting future ahead as a country, but the long—term values and principles are built to tackle these big moments in time. that is what keir starmer is now focused on. we have just heard from the public, they want us to realign in this way

and that is why i am really excited to be a part of that going forward because that is where keir starmer is taking us. it because that is where keir starmer is taking us— is taking us. it is tantalising, all of these hints. _ is taking us. it is tantalising, all of these hints. we _ is taking us. it is tantalising, all of these hints. we look - is taking us. it is tantalising, all of these hints. we look forward | is taking us. it is tantalising, all. of these hints. we look forward to seeing exactly how they manifest themselves. just the last point, if you would. do you think the current leadership line—up, as in the front bench — not the policy leader, is actually the one that keir starmer thinks will actually deliver this alignment and connect properly and efficiently with voters? all we can —— or can we expect that to change in the coming weeks? -- or can we expect that to change in the coming weeks?— -- or can we expect that to change in the coming weeks? thank you for la in: the in the coming weeks? thank you for laying the bear _ in the coming weeks? thank you for laying the bear trap _ in the coming weeks? thank you for laying the bear trap for _ in the coming weeks? thank you for laying the bear trap for me - in the coming weeks? thank you for laying the bear trap for me to - in the coming weeks? thank you for laying the bear trap for me to jump | laying the bear trap for me to jump into, i laying the bear trap for me to jump into, lam laying the bear trap for me tojump into, i am on laying the bear trap for me to jump into, i am on the front bench and so it is totally self—serving for me to talk about these things and it is way above my pay grade, but what i will say is that i believe in how keir starmer will be moving forward. he is in the business of identifying the priorities for our country and he will be realigning our policy

offering to much better align with those priorities and bring them together. of course, the personnel tasked with delivering it will flow from the purpose we are set, the policy purpose. the policy purpose will come first, i expect, and i know that everything that flows from it will be in the best interest of voters, rooted in the priorities of our country. that comes first and foremost and that is the task that keir starmer has set himself on the labour party and everything else, including the in personnel and personalities will from that. peter k le, personalities will from that. peter kyle. thank _ personalities will from that. peter kyle. thank you — personalities will from that. peter kyle, thank you for _ personalities will from that. peter kyle, thank you forjoining - personalities will from that. peter kyle, thank you forjoining us. - personalities will from that. peter kyle, thank you forjoining us. he is the —— the labour mp from hove in the shadowjustice minister giving us a spirited defence for the radical realignment that case, keir

starmer will be delivering in the coming weeks. probably, i speakfrom some experience here, one of the slowest processes is actually in london. the process of electing to the assembly in london and then of course, the actual result of the mayoral election, all of this tends to take quite a while and can go for a couple of days and all the rest of it. rita has got some london constituency results up for us and i'm just wondering, constituency results up for us and i'mjust wondering, could constituency results up for us and i'm just wondering, could you give us a progress report? where we at the moment? the us a progress report? where we at the moment?— us a progress report? where we at the moment? ., ., , , ., the moment? the london results are very interesting- _ the moment? the london results are very interesting. it _ the moment? the london results are very interesting. it is _ the moment? the london results are very interesting. it is thought - the moment? the london results are very interesting. it is thought to - very interesting. it is thought to be a very safe labour stronghold, but we are seeing some churning those results. just to talk you through this, it says london constituency results, but these are the initial votes for the london mayor. the way that it works as people vote within their constituencies and the votes are then aggregated together. there are

ill then aggregated together. there are ill constituencys and the votes are all added up in the mayoral contest takes place on the basis of the aggregated score. what we have here is the initial six constituency results and as you can see, there has been some churn. in ealing and hillingdon, for example, where last time in 2016, labour top the poll, this time around and this is why it has gone blue, it is the conservative candidate sean bailey who has topped the poll. that a share in terms of the vote and this is the shared change. the conservatives have gone up one and labour is down by four. that represents a swing from labour to conservative by 2.7%. in the short, these figures are suggesting to us that labour is down by around four percentage points and conservatives overall are roughly the same. greens have picked up a couple of

percentage points, as has one of the independent, laurence fox. let's take a look at brent and harrow where labour topped last time and this time it is the conservatives. sean bailey on more votes. that is a share the party is gone and conservatives up a little bit, but it is labour who have dropped by 6% there. i think the swing is roughly similar to what we saw before, actually, it is a little bit more. 3.5% from labour to conservative. those are very quite eye—catching results. there is also slightly better news for labour in centre, conservatives have topped the poll just as they did last time around five years ago, but if we look at the change of the vote, the

conservatives are down 8% and labour is up slightly. in west central, although the conservatives are topping the poll, actually there is that swing to labour. what does this all mean? you have to bear in mind that this is a second preference process. if one of the candidates gets 50% of the vote or over, they immediately win the contest and become mayor. if they don't, it is a run—off between the top two candidates and everybody else in the list, the second preference votes are redistributed to the top two. this is some way in the process if you like, as was said, london takes a while. these are the first indications of some movement in the london vote. indications of some movement in the london vote-— indications of some movement in the london vote. ., ,, , ., , . . london vote. thank you very much. we can return to — london vote. thank you very much. we can return to adina _ london vote. thank you very much. we can return to adina campbell _

london vote. thank you very much. we can return to adina campbell who - london vote. thank you very much. we can return to adina campbell who is - can return to adina campbell who is an exam the palace where the london boats are being counted. —— vote. sean bailey has been beaten in prenton ealing. that should have come as a shock, wasn't expecting that one. it come as a shock, wasn't expecting that one. . . , come as a shock, wasn't expecting that one. , ., , , . that one. it is a very mixed picture b the that one. it is a very mixed picture by the results _ that one. it is a very mixed picture by the results have _ that one. it is a very mixed picture by the results have come - that one. it is a very mixed picture by the results have come here - that one. it is a very mixed picture by the results have come here at l by the results have come here at alexandra palace. going by the very first barrier that declared its that is brent and harrow, it assured that bailey secured a majority of the votes there with just over 65,000 preference votes, followed closely by siddique khan for labour with 60,000 first votes. the north—east london borough, a massive turn there, 111,004 siddique khan and just lower for sean bailey with just

over 40,001st preference votes. it doesn't like a two horse race with the other labour votes. the other candidates even in touching distance of the other runners. we have to be cautious at this stage because there more constituencies to get through over the next 24 hours. at the moment, i would say a very, very mixed picture. moment, i would say a very, very mixed picture-— moment, i would say a very, very mixed picture. how does it compare to how the tories _ mixed picture. how does it compare to how the tories did _ mixed picture. how does it compare to how the tories did in _ mixed picture. how does it compare to how the tories did in 2008 - mixed picture. how does it compare to how the tories did in 2008 and i to how the tories did in 2008 and 2012 at this stage? that to how the tories did in 2008 and 2012 at this stage?— 2012 at this stage? at this stage, back in 2016. _ 2012 at this stage? at this stage, back in 2016, labour's _ 2012 at this stage? at this stage, back in 2016, labour's siddique l 2012 at this stage? at this stage, - back in 2016, labour's siddique khan actually won the election on second preference votes. it is not usual for the person who wins the london mayor election to win on those preference votes, it does normally go through the second round. we are expecting the final declaration at the very earliest at some point tomorrow evening, may be on to the

early hours of sunday morning as the pandemic and slow down the counting process. we will be keeping a close eye here. at the moment, it looks like it is a battle between the conservative party and labour. thank ou ve conservative party and labour. thank you very much _ conservative party and labour. thank you very much indeed. _ conservative party and labour. thank you very much indeed. at _ conservative party and labour. thank you very much indeed. at this - conservative party and labour. thank you very much indeed. at this stage, we can take stock. if you have heard this phrase in politics before, you can take stock of what is happening in scotland the what is happening now. we have 47 of the hundred and 29 seats cleared. remember that of those, 76 are constituencies, but we still have a slew of seats that will return 56 msps to parliament, but in terms of the important seats the snp had to crack if they were going to return to the parliament with an outright majority, let see what happened there. the snp have got 38 seats, up by three will stop liberal democrats are in for, conservatives

are on three, labour on to and that is —1. we can now turn to our correspondence. where are we tonight? john curtice was quite clear. it was pretty unlikely that the snp will return an outright majority. the road to a majority seems block. it is been interesting to see the collaboration. in edinburgh, many natural conservative voters voting for the labour candidate as the most likely to keep the snp out. and eastwood commit many, and dumbarton, many conservative voters voting for jackie bailey to keep the snp out. and the opposite way in the east. but as many outstanding day for the snp. it does look like the new scottish parliament will look like i a lot like the old scottish parliament with more green representations. the big question is what will this do to the union of

the next five years. we know historically the union has been strong when this meant a shared sense of values, and a shared sense of purpose, uniting the people of scotland and the people of the rest of the uk. the age of empire, industry, the two world wars, reconstruction from all pan— british enterprises that bound the people of scotland into a shared product in a shared project you if you like most question is now, it we know equally the union is at its weakest when the scotland has imposed on it policies and values that ran counter to the values of today, that was true in the 80s and 90s in that period transform scotland's attitude towards a space in the union and produce this building of scottish parliament in the same thing i can hear echoes of it today in the brexit project. scotland doesn't want to walk the brexit path but it will have to as part of the united kingdom. how much damage that would do to scott's faith in the uk? we'll have to wait and see. —— in the

union. have to wait and see. -- in the union. �* ., ., have to wait and see. -- in the union. . ., ., ., ., , , union. and we have a lot of numbers of msps all— union. and we have a lot of numbers of msps all in _ union. and we have a lot of numbers of msps all in their _ union. and we have a lot of numbers of msps all in their position - union. and we have a lot of numbers of msps all in their position of- union. and we have a lot of numbers of msps all in their position of the i of msps all in their position of the parliament to vote from a party not their own so when it comes down to policy, and keeping the constituents happy, ill be very p°licy. and keeping the constituents happy, ill be very interesting policy, and keeping the constituents happy, ill be very interesting see our politics pans out.— our politics pans out. yes. what emerted our politics pans out. yes. what emerged after— our politics pans out. yes. what emerged after the _ our politics pans out. yes. what emerged after the 2014 - our politics pans out. yes. what emerged after the 2014 it - our politics pans out. yes. what emerged after the 2014 it was i our politics pans out. yes. what i emerged after the 2014 it was the collapse of the old right spectrum and the emergence of new two tribes called yes and the prounion parties have had to aggregate around a single candidate to make sure that by dividing the snp doesn't get in by dividing the snp doesn't get in by the simple process of dividing the prounion vote and that is become a characteristic of scottish politics and it is here to stay and quite impressive how well organised thatis quite impressive how well organised that is distinctively voters have support the union know which candidates to vote for.- support the union know which candidates to vote for. thank you indeed, candidates to vote for. thank you indeed. alan- _ candidates to vote for. thank you indeed, alan. thank _ candidates to vote for. thank you indeed, alan. thank you - candidates to vote for. thank you indeed, alan. thank you very - candidates to vote for. thank you i indeed, alan. thank you very much. we have one hour to go in this coverage and this is our final hour

of the day before we return tomorrow, don't panic. we will be back, we will be back with our wine gums, i should give any brand names but it is red, it is a farm animal. ——| but it is red, it is a farm animal. —— i should not get any. guess what it is. actually, the wine gums are a very good combination like high octane fuel. i'm not asking kirstie for her entity secrets. she is looking much fresher than i am. i'm much more elegant as well i can say. getting lots of comments because you are a magnificent coat on social media. leave alone the magnificent analysis. you had a good day. we are coming back after the news. that is in a second. if mr mark drakeford, the first minister wales is watching our coverage, why would he be, mark, can we say that you are very welcome to have a chat with us about your party parchment performance and well. i can't imagine you will be

shy about it. if mr drakeford is around and want to talk to us, we will happy to have in mind. you have until laissez a quarter to ten to turn up. we will be very pleased if he did that. kirsty and i will take a little break and join sean for the news. thank you very much and good evening. election results will be coming in throughout the day on england, scotland and wales, the conservatives are celebrating a major victory in the hartlepool by election, winning the seat for the first time in more than 60 years. in scotland, results in the parliament elections are still coming in with the snp hoping to secure an outright majority and further is because for another independent referendum. results thus far suggest it could be incredibly close. they mean dramatic is has more. —— damien grammatically has more. jill mortimer is the first mp to represent hartlepool in 67 years. iii

represent hartlepool in 67 years. if there is a lesson out of this whole election campaign across the whole of the uk, it is that the public want politicians to get on with focusing on their needs and their priorities. that focusing on their needs and their riorities. �* ., priorities. at the region delivered another bitter _ priorities. at the region delivered another bitter blow _ priorities. at the region delivered another bitter blow for _ priorities. at the region delivered another bitter blow for labour. i priorities. at the region delivered i another bitter blow for labour. the candidate for tees valley merritt was soundly beaten. the conservative incumbent returned with more than 70% of the vote. in council elections, conservatives took control of nuneaton and bedworth in the west midlands. and bowser then in essex. glum labourfaces as hollow in essex went to the tories. in deadly in the midlands too. labour did retain control of liverpool with councils and manchester hastings but there was little comfort. i manchester hastings but there was little comfort-— little comfort. i am bitterly disappointed _ little comfort. i am bitterly disappointed in _ little comfort. i am bitterly disappointed in the - little comfort. i am bitterly disappointed in the results| little comfort. i am bitterly - disappointed in the results and i take full responsibility for the results and i will take full

responsibility for fixing things. the greens have been picking up seats here from labour in sheffield. the liberal democrats and the conservatives in cambridgeshire. in the west parliament election, labour lost the to the conservatives. but one has enough other challenges so wales at least labour are celebrating. scotland's parliament has said the result could be the most consequential. the snp has taken air and most consequential. the snp has taken airand it most consequential. the snp has taken air and it a real essential, the question here, can nicola sturgeon get an overall majority, and if so how soon might she push for independence?— and if so how soon might she push for independence? extremely happy. extremely confident _ for independence? extremely happy. extremely confident that _ for independence? extremely happy. extremely confident that we - for independence? extremely happy. extremely confident that we are - for independence? extremely happy. extremely confident that we are on l extremely confident that we are on track in the snp for a fourth consecutive election victory and to have the ability to form a government again and that is an extraordinary achievement for any political party. extraordinary achievement for any political party-—

political party. north and south of the border. _ political party. north and south of the border, the _ political party. north and south of the border, the final— political party. north and south of the border, the final shape - political party. north and south of the border, the final shape of- the border, the final shape of things will only be clear over the weekend. but what happens in scotland can take some of the wind out of borisjohnson's celebration. particle enter bottle and israel are among 12 countries which people in england will be able to travel to from the 17th of may without having to quarantine when they return. —— portugal. destinations like spain, and france are not on the green list which means there are minimum requirements for travellers and the transfer secretary says he lives will be expended only when it is safe to do so. the will be expended only when it is safe to do so.— will be expended only when it is safe to do so. the signs overseas are now more _ safe to do so. the signs overseas are now more promising - safe to do so. the signs overseas are now more promising as - safe to do so. the signs overseas are now more promising as a - safe to do so. the signs overseas l are now more promising as a result of their vaccination programme beginning to crank up. as the summer progresses we hope that more traditional tourist destinations will be unlocked but we have to turn the key slowly and green lit countries will be placed on a watchlist if we start to have any concerns. and if it is necessary

because of a new upswing in cases or a new variant, we will not hesitate to act fast and withdraw green status. . . to act fast and withdraw green status. ., , , . ., , ., status. the transfer secretary at grant schapps- _ status. the transfer secretary at grant schapps. joining - status. the transfer secretary at grant schapps. joining me - status. the transfer secretary at grant schapps. joining me now, | status. the transfer secretary at - grant schapps. joining me now, katie bowman, editor of the family travel magazine and online website. thank you forjoining us. any surprises in this list for you?— this list for you? travel editors and people _ this list for you? travel editors and people in _ this list for you? travel editors and people in the _ this list for you? travel editors and people in the travel- this list for you? travel editors i and people in the travel industry felt about this, it was like watching the grand national with the favours coming in and the outsiders and one surprise that was absolutely definitely going to be on the green list was martha, we have seen that has been bumped to the amber list. but beyond that, the only surprise was how few countries were on it. rather than how many and basically it is like if in doubt situation, if in doubt of your country is probably on the amber list. that in doubt of your country is probably on the amber list.— on the amber list. that obviously it will mean that _ on the amber list. that obviously it will mean that if _ on the amber list. that obviously it will mean that if people _ on the amber list. that obviously it will mean that if people travel - on the amber list. that obviously it will mean that if people travel to i will mean that if people travel to those countries they can expect things like quarantine read less and

won't even be allowed back from if they don't but presumably amber means you can go to my but there will be consequences. lsilal’eilil means you can go to my but there will be consequences.— will be consequences. well grant scha - -s will be consequences. well grant schapps was _ will be consequences. well grant schapps was very _ will be consequences. well grant schapps was very key _ will be consequences. well grant schapps was very key to - will be consequences. well grant schapps was very key to point. will be consequences. well grant| schapps was very key to point out that amber list is not the amber list as a west last summer. this is not a play hard and fast with the rules and are you prepared to stick around at home for ten days in take that penalty on the chin. it is not for leisure travel at all beyond green. that is amber list and read list is not for leisure travel at all. there are clear rules about how many tests you might take and how you quarantine, quarantine at home or in a place of your choosing if you return from an amber list destination. where you are quarantine in a hotel at the expense of £1750 if you return from every destination but he was very clear that it destination but he was very clear thatitis destination but he was very clear that it is really holidays equal green list and nothing more. which

raises the question _ green list and nothing more. which raises the question i _ green list and nothing more. which raises the question i suppose - green list and nothing more. which raises the question i suppose given how many people are waiting for this list to appear. what is the effect been on holiday prices to those destinations in the last few hours? this is an interesting one. i am watching this scenario as a traveller editor but also as an avid traveller editor but also as an avid traveller with my two weeks in portugal booked forjuly. i have held off booking flights just saying what is happening, seeing whether it will go up ahead and i have obviously been watching the flights for example to airports in lisbon and algarve and porto. yet those flight prices have not changed from a month ago to a week ago to five minutes ago i checked. knowing that i was going to be speaking to you. it is very interesting, there is this pent—up demand, we are all chomping at the bit to get on holiday and you can imagine you will see a spike in prices but as far as portugal is concerned, that has not

happened yet. portugal is concerned, that has not happened yet-— portugal is concerned, that has not happened yet. very intriguing. a lot ofthe happened yet. very intriguing. a lot of the websites _ happened yet. very intriguing. a lot of the websites that _ happened yet. very intriguing. a lot of the websites that people - happened yet. very intriguing. a lot of the websites that people booked | of the websites that people booked through rely on algorithms. the more clicks there are, the more people show interest in particular flights and the more the price starts to go up. presumably that was suggesting people are even looking at these options at the moment. i people are even looking at these options at the moment.- people are even looking at these options at the moment. i think we're all a lot more — options at the moment. i think we're all a lot more cautious _ options at the moment. i think we're all a lot more cautious than - options at the moment. i think we're all a lot more cautious than we - options at the moment. i think we're all a lot more cautious than we were| all a lot more cautious than we were last that is absolutely the case. you must remember that this is for travel green list commit a to may 17. three weeks after that, there will be another review three weeks after that and another overview. perhaps families and holiday—makers are watching and waiting for their greece trip or their spanish trip or their italian trip. it is very early days and is a long way to go until the boom time ofjuly and august. it may be that people are hanging on and we are certainly all as a nation and we are certainly all as a nation a travel is much more cautious about jumping on planes and we were last

summer. ., ., ~ , ., , jumping on planes and we were last summer. . . ~ , ., y . summer. katie, thank you very much. we probably — summer. katie, thank you very much. we probably will— summer. katie, thank you very much. we probably will be _ summer. katie, thank you very much. we probably will be talking _ summer. katie, thank you very much. we probably will be talking to - summer. katie, thank you very much. we probably will be talking to you - we probably will be talking to you again. for now, thank you. the latest figures on affection show 2419 people were reported to become infected and the hour period of friday. about 2060 cases every day in the last week. 15 deaths were reported in the 24 hours to friday, people previously testing positive for covid—19 in the 28 days before their death. 12 deaths on average announce every day in the past week. i hundred and 27,598 people have died in the period of the pandemic across the uk. vaccinations, the figure stands at 35 million people having had the first covid—19 job and more than 16 the —— 16 million having the first day. vaccinations now.

we are recommending the people under 40 should be offered a alternative after the blood caught concerns. the age threshold is being raised as a precautionary measure and england's deputy chief medical officer says the uk is still on course to give every adult in this country at least a coronavirus vaccine by the end of july. jeremy brown at the professor of respiratory infections at the university college of london and sits on thejoint university college of london and sits on the joint committee of vaccination and immunisation and speaking to us in a personal capacity in terms of his opinion. i want to ask you, was this kind of quite closely debated by members of the committee? yes quite closely debated by members of the committee?— the committee? yes it has been debated over _ the committee? yes it has been debated over the _ the committee? yes it has been debated over the past _ the committee? yes it has been debated over the past two - the committee? yes it has been debated over the past two or i the committee? yes it has been i debated over the past two or three weeks really. it is taking quite a long time to come to this decision. there are various factors that had to be taken into consideration. but the continuing incident is about half of what it was a month ago of covid—19 affections it means now the

chance of catching covid—19 is really quite low and therefore the very rare side effect that occurs at the astrazeneca vaccine becomes more of an issue then it would be if there is a high infection. essentially if you are under the age of 40, the rare side effect is it becomes an issue because you there chance of getting severe covert is so small now. —— saviour covid—19. in terms of the availability, that will this cause any problems for the government in terms of the procurement of doses or would you say they already have sufficient in the armoury to be able to adapt in this way? lstate the armoury to be able to adapt in this wa ? ~ ., ., ., this way? we are fortunate, there are three vaccines _ this way? we are fortunate, there are three vaccines already - this way? we are fortunate, there are three vaccines already used i this way? we are fortunate, there are three vaccines already used in j are three vaccines already used in this country and there may be a few more coming through over the next few months. there is a bit of choice involved. it's always a problem if you restrict the use of a vaccine in certain age groups and to be fair we are not restricting use. we say

there is a preference for using the pfizer or modernity. we will still be using the astrazeneca. —— moderna vaccine. wherever it is difficult to get people the pfizer vaccine. so there is enough supply of the other vaccines to ensure we are still on course. that is the good news. fin course. that is the good news. on the practicality of this, the older age groups will of already being jabbed on this, there's less if any hardly any particular concern for the older age groups judging hardly any particular concern for the older age groupsjudging by hardly any particular concern for the older age groups judging by this decision. what about their practicality, do we get to know whether it is possible to mix and match with vaccines? if you had the firstjabbed with one vaccine, do you have to have the second from the same one? at the moment we are saying you take the second also be the same dose same vaccine is the first dose and there is no evidence that anybody with the same dose of

the astrazeneca has ever had this clot. ctr the astrazeneca has ever had this clot. ., ., , ., _, clot. or a low platelet count problem- — clot. or a low platelet count problem- it _ clot. or a low platelet count problem. it didn't _ clot. or a low platelet count problem. it didn't seem - clot. or a low platelet count problem. it didn't seem to i clot. or a low platelet count - problem. it didn't seem to happen with the second out. it is perfectly safe for people of the astrazeneca first dose to carry forward now with the second dose. i think in the future, we will have more complications. it will be difficult to match people to their original vaccine they had. when we come to the boosters which may or may not happen this year but will probably happen this year but will probably happen at some point in the future, so it will be hard to be sure you will get the same vaccine as you have the first time around. however, most of these vaccines come all the vaccines we use in this country, they use the same protein is the target for the vaccination and it is very likely that the vaccines will be very easily use between each other and stimulate a similar immune response when you have a mixed vaccine rather than the same vaccine. we have or have the data.

it is coming. there is a child looking into this. we will get that later on in the year probably by the summer. —— we don't have day to get. thank you, professor brown. fresh allegations of sexual misconduct have been made against the actor and director noel clark for that relating to a time of the bbc doctor who. more women have come forward and struck into the guardian who spent alleging incidents of harassment and inappropriate behaviour during the making of the bbc one series and the bbc says it is shocked to hear the allegations and he has denied all claims made against him. police in kent are filling to the public them identify a man who was sitting close to where the police community support officer julia james was killed the day after. they released a photograph that was taken in can't at the day after their 53—year—old died. she was down dead to her home ten days ago. postmortem revealed she died from significant head injuries. helen wilkerson has more. laisl’ha from significant head injuries. helen wilkerson has more. who is

this man, detective _ helen wilkerson has more. who is this man, detective desperately i helen wilkerson has more. who is i this man, detective desperately need to know. , _, this man, detective desperately need to know. , , to know. they say he could be the ke to to know. they say he could be the key to unlocking _ to know. they say he could be the key to unlocking what _ to know. they say he could be the key to unlocking what happened i to know. they say he could be the| key to unlocking what happened to julia james. ,., , key to unlocking what happened to juliajames. , ~ ., , key to unlocking what happened to julia james-— key to unlocking what happened to juliajames. , ~' ., , ., ., julia james. somebody knows who that man is. we desperately _ julia james. somebody knows who that man is. we desperately need _ julia james. somebody knows who that man is. we desperately need you - julia james. somebody knows who that man is. we desperately need you to i man is. we desperately need you to make contact with us and help us identify who that person is. if that person is watching, please make contact with us. we believe you have crucial information. the contact with us. we believe you have crucial information.— crucial information. the man in the ima . e crucial information. the man in the image that — crucial information. the man in the image that police _ crucial information. the man in the image that police have _ crucial information. the man in the image that police have released i image that police have released today was spotted somewhere along this country lane in eltham last wednesday. the day after the body of julia james was discovered. this is an area that is not far from the crime scene, where the photograph came from or who ticket police won't say. —— make ajames had been walking her dog when she was attacked, just a few hundred yards from her home. —— aylesham. she separate head injury significantly. her husband posted this photograph of them saying how much she missed her. a reward of up to £10,000 has

been offered by crime stoppers for information leading to a conviction information leading to a conviction in this case. officers from forces across the country have now been asked to support kent please i will continue to be a challenging case for them to him on the tenth day of this investigation, they are hoping they are getting closer to the breakthrough they need. —— kent police. a new story, back to election 2021. —— that is if our new stories. welcome back to election in 2021. welcome back to election in 2021. welcome to everybody. we are coming to the end of this marathon broadcast today, not too many results to come and now i don't think between now and ten o'clock. the best thing is to try to start to

summarise what has been going on over the last 13 hours or so. we will start with the physician in scotland and the state of the party. let's turn to every two to have a look at that. let's turn to every two to have a look at that-— let's turn to every two to have a look at that. this is where we are at with 48 — look at that. this is where we are at with 48 of _ look at that. this is where we are at with 48 of the _ look at that. this is where we are at with 48 of the hundred - look at that. this is where we are at with 48 of the hundred and - look at that. this is where we are at with 48 of the hundred and 29 | at with 48 of the hundred and 29 seats declared. these are all constituency seats, the first part of the proceeds not the regional lisee social, little bit later. as you can see, not all that much turn in terms of actual seats gained or lost. the snp have gained three, conservatives are last two and labour has lost one. let's take a look at those three seats. the snp gained this by a tiny margin. but it was a gain for them in a different story in edinburgh central where they had a very big gained there. angus robertson becoming the msp for edinburgh central. this was ruth

davison, the conservative am a former conservative leader in scotland, herseat former conservative leader in scotland, her seat before her. he got a majority of nearly 5000 there, and if you just take a look at the share of the vote, 39% for the snp as compared to 28% for the conservatives. the shared changes pretty dramatic. 10% rise for the snp. we should see the swing here from conservative to snp of 6.6%. and the other snp again, that was from the code conservative, from labour. they held onto their very marginal seat and done barton but they lost this also become a marginal gain by the snp paul mcclendon. a small majority then we saw in edinburgh central but let me show you. that is the share of the vote of the two top parties, pretty

close, but the snp putting on 4% which enabled them to swoop in and gain deceit from labour. that is the swing. —— gain in this week. gain deceit from labour. that is the swing. -- gain in this week.- swing. -- gain in this week. thank ou. i'm swing. -- gain in this week. thank you- l'm joined _ swing. -- gain in this week. thank you. i'mjoined now— swing. -- gain in this week. thank you. i'm joined now by _ swing. -- gain in this week. thank you. i'mjoined now by nick- swing. -- gain in this week. thank you. i'm joined now by nick early i you. i'm joined now by nick early again. —— nick eardley. the snp are still in the running for an outright majority. what will be the route to that? it majority. what will be the route to that? , , ., ~ majority. what will be the route to that? , ,~ ~ ,.,,.,_ that? it is very hard. and probably auoin to that? it is very hard. and probably going to come _ that? it is very hard. and probably going to come down _ that? it is very hard. and probably going to come down to _ that? it is very hard. and probably going to come down to one - that? it is very hard. and probably going to come down to one seat. i that? it is very hard. and probably i going to come down to one seat. the snp hq, there are two potential routes. one unlikely, feasible also, the feasible one, they when a west aberdeen sherry, and they keep one less seat in the south of scotland and was lisee in the highlands in ireland felt that that would be down to in the south of scotland but they went extra constituencies. —— a west abeerdeenshire. went extra constituencies. -- a west abeerdeenshire.— abeerdeenshire. remind me of the ma'ori

abeerdeenshire. remind me of the majority and _ abeerdeenshire. remind me of the majority and west _ abeerdeenshire. remind me of thej majority and west abeerdeenshire. abeerdeenshire. remind me of the i majority and west abeerdeenshire. it is a fairly small one. let me find my notes. it is 900. so it is small but in the northeast where things haven't always been great. it's been a mixed bag. sometimes it is been goodin a mixed bag. sometimes it is been good in ok or bad for the snp. there will be watching that like it hot tomorrow. that could be one of the last seats. it will be late into the afternoon probably. that is three seats that way. the other way, a lot less likely, they keep one and the highlands and they get one of the south of scotland and went somewhere else. that feels unlikely. it feels like that seat tomorrow and aberdeen sherry wes will be really crucial but are long shot. —— abeerdeenshire wes. but are long shot. -- abeerdeenshire wes. . ~ but are long shot. -- abeerdeenshire wes. ., ,, , ., but are long shot. -- abeerdeenshire wes. ., ~' but are long shot. -- abeerdeenshire wes. ., ,, ., but are long shot. -- abeerdeenshire wes. ., ~' ., ., but are long shot. -- abeerdeenshire wes. ., ,, ., ., �*, wes. thank you, nick for now. let's to to wes. thank you, nick for now. let's go to trend — wes. thank you, nick for now. let's go to trend the _ wes. thank you, nick for now. let's go to trend the limit _ wes. thank you, nick for now. let's go to trend the limit to _ wes. thank you, nick for now. let's go to trend the limit to hindley, - go to trend the limit to hindley, the mp for inverness. the make a similar calculation to nick there? —— drew hindley.i

similar calculation to nick there? -- drew hindley.— -- drew hindley. i think it is alwa s -- drew hindley. i think it is always been _ -- drew hindley. i think it is always been clear _ -- drew hindley. i think it is always been clear that - -- drew hindley. i think it is i always been clear that getting -- drew hindley. i think it is - always been clear that getting a majority — always been clear that getting a majority in this electoral system is incredible — majority in this electoral system is incredible and challenge. we have done _ incredible and challenge. we have done a _ incredible and challenge. we have done a fantasticjob today i think winning — done a fantasticjob today i think winning a — done a fantasticjob today i think winning a fourth election. some great _ winning a fourth election. some great breakthroughs but if we get a majority _ great breakthroughs but if we get a majority it — great breakthroughs but if we get a majority it will be down to those factors _ majority it will be down to those factors on — majority it will be down to those factors on the list but we will have to wait _ factors on the list but we will have to wait and — factors on the list but we will have to wait and see. 50 factors on the list but we will have to wait and see.— factors on the list but we will have to wait and see. so what impact do ou think to wait and see. so what impact do you think the _ to wait and see. so what impact do you think the return _ to wait and see. so what impact do you think the return of— to wait and see. so what impact do you think the return of angus - you think the return of angus robertson will half to the scottish parliament? i robertson will half to the scottish parliament?— parliament? i think it is a fantastic _ parliament? i think it is a fantastic gain _ parliament? i think it is a fantastic gain for - parliament? i think it is a fantastic gain for the - parliament? i think it is a | fantastic gain for the snp. parliament? i think it is a - fantastic gain for the snp. you heard — fantastic gain for the snp. you heard the _ fantastic gain for the snp. you heard the majority that he managed to secure _ heard the majority that he managed to secure there. that doesn't surprise _ to secure there. that doesn't surprise me knowing the man and performance that he puts in for his constituency and his parliamentary skills _ constituency and his parliamentary skills he — constituency and his parliamentary skills. he will be a great asset for the scottish parliament and i'm delighted to have both him as a former— delighted to have both him as a former mp colleague and of course neil grady, who he offset his

particular factory. neil grady, who he offset his particularfactory. —— neil grady, who he offset his particular factory. —— who also had a spectacular— particular factory. —— who also had a spectacular victory. i particular factory. -- who also had a spectacular victory.— a spectacular victory. i think i'm riaht in a spectacular victory. i think i'm right in saying _ a spectacular victory. i think i'm right in saying that _ a spectacular victory. i think i'm right in saying that of— a spectacular victory. i think i'm right in saying that of course i a spectacular victory. i think i'm i right in saying that of course neil grady�*s transfers let me there will be a by election. grady's transfers let me there will be a by election.— be a by election. there is a by election in _ be a by election. there is a by election in there _ be a by election. there is a by election in there next - be a by election. there is a by election in there next week. i be a by election. there is a by i election in there next week. that and ou a election in there next week. that and you a chance _ election in there next week. that and you a chance for _ election in there next week. trust and you a chance for another indication... he and you a chance for another indication. . ._ and you a chance for another indication... he did the right thing and stay down _ indication... he did the right thing and stay down from _ indication... he did the right thing and stay down from his _ indication... he did the right thing i and stay down from his westminster seat to— and stay down from his westminster seat to fight this election. it wasn't — seat to fight this election. it wasn't going to take up two jobs seat to fight this election. it wasn't going to take up twojobs in addition _ wasn't going to take up two 'obs in addition. ., ., _ wasn't going to take up two 'obs in addition. ., ., ., , addition. fair to say of course, alex hammond _ addition. fair to say of course, alex hammond that _ addition. fair to say of course, alex hammond that the - addition. fair to say of course, alex hammond that the two i addition. fair to say of course, i alex hammond that the two jobs addition. fair to say of course, - alex hammond that the two jobs lined as well. i don't think the snp were complaining too much about that when he did a. the complaining too much about that when he did a. ,, ., ., ., he did a. the snp have now made it clear that they _ he did a. the snp have now made it clear that they don't _ he did a. the snp have now made it clear that they don't have _ he did a. the snp have now made it clear that they don't have a - he did a. the snp have now made it clear that they don't have a dual - clear that they don't have a dual mandate — clear that they don't have a dual mandate position. neil grey did the

i’ili'lt mandate position. neil grey did the right thing stepping down from his westminster seat. and when he very handsomely to go and be in msp where ithink— handsomely to go and be in msp where i think he _ handsomely to go and be in msp where i think he will be another fantastic addition _ i think he will be another fantastic addition to the snp team along with angus— addition to the snp team along with angus robertson. a very talented team _ angus robertson. a very talented team and — angus robertson. a very talented team and some fresh intake we have from the _ team and some fresh intake we have from the msp across today. not just in anirban— from the msp across today. not just in anirban essential but everywhere near~ _ in anirban essential but everywhere near~ in _ in anirban essential but everywhere near~ in all— in anirban essential but everywhere near. in all the surrounding seats. -- inverness— near. in all the surrounding seats. —— inverness essential. near. in all the surrounding seats. -- inverness essential.— -- inverness essential. what alex hammond — -- inverness essential. what alex hammond said _ -- inverness essential. what alex hammond said tonight, _ -- inverness essential. what alex hammond said tonight, he - -- inverness essential. what alex i hammond said tonight, he conceded the list is not going well enough to return many mps the list is not going well enough to return many mp5 from the list, that magic finger perhaps 5% or 6% is not likely to be reached. however, there are two former snp mps who are now arbour mps at westminster. when do you think the role will be and how will you operate with those mps who after all have a sense defected from

the snp to alex sam and's fledging party? we the snp to alex sam and's fledging .a 2 . the snp to alex sam and's fledging .a ? . ., , ., the snp to alex sam and's fledging -a ? ~ ., , ., ., , the snp to alex sam and's fledging party? we will operate as we have alwa s party? we will operate as we have always done- _ party? we will operate as we have always done- -- — party? we will operate as we have always done. -- alex _ party? we will operate as we have always done. -- alex salmon's - always done. —— alex salmon's fledging — always done. —— alex salmon's fledging party. we will get the right— fledging party. we will get the right things done for scotland and make _ right things done for scotland and make sure — right things done for scotland and make sure we are providing scotland's voice. i cannot speak for those _ scotland's voice. i cannot speak for those others who have decided to take that — those others who have decided to take that path. that is up to them but we _ take that path. that is up to them but we will— take that path. that is up to them but we will always work with people who want _ but we will always work with people who want to do the right things and make _ who want to do the right things and make sure — who want to do the right things and make sure we are putting the benefits — make sure we are putting the benefits and people of scotland and the benefits for them first. so we will see _ the benefits for them first. so we will see what happens with that but i will see what happens with that but i cannot _ will see what happens with that but i cannot talk about folk that are not in _ i cannot talk about folk that are not in our— i cannot talk about folk that are not in our party, that is something you have _ not in our party, that is something you have to— not in our party, that is something you have to ask them about. thank ou ve you have to ask them about. thank you very much _ you have to ask them about. thank you very much for _ you have to ask them about. thank you very much forjoining _ you have to ask them about. thank you very much forjoining us. - you have to ask them about. thank you very much forjoining us. 27 i you very much forjoining us. 27 minutes past nine. as we get towards the end of this broadcast, let's have a look and looking at the figures, may be experimenting with

the figures in a certain way, what we have done is fed the pattern so far into the machine, and we have come up with a bbc production from the house of commons. let's not take it that seriously. just for us to have a look and see what we think about it. here it is for you. three to six need for a majority. this projection based on the votes we have seen today would put the conservatives on 3— 327. that is not a majority. labour on 226. lib dem on 24. that would be an increase. the others on 73. that would include all the smaller parties of course and it would include the snp as well. that is the kind of picture that you get. i know a lot of you will be justjumping that you get. i know a lot of you will bejustjumping up and down and saying it is kind of nonsense to try and projected that way but anyway it gives you a sense of how these

numbers today would feed through. let's talk a little bit about that. what the real votes we had today as well, with emily emily and james johnson, the former conservative party poster who work closely with theresa may and good to have you with us. thank you forjoining us. let's start with emily. giving your expertise, and scotland, what do you make of these results? are they in line with what you had been forecasting and if any the surprises? of course, one of the big question is whether the snp was able to win a majority are not and that was always going to come to a handful of key marginal seats and certainly we have seen that play out today. while the snp was able to make games, losing

eastwood and dumbarton makes it more difficult to get majority. what we are seen as more tactical voting from unionists on the constitutional vote to keep the snp out by voting for whichever of the union parties, whether conservative other which is likely to be locally the snp. the people at the top would say that it is very important to cast their votes on the issue of independence, but there is also the nhs, managing the economy and a big thing for people was independence and we are seeing more alignment now than we did a couple of years back between which party people are planning to vote for and their position on independence. it vote for and their position on independence.— vote for and their position on independence. it is interesting because lots — independence. it is interesting because lots of _ independence. it is interesting because lots of people - independence. it is interesting because lots of people say - independence. it is interesting - because lots of people say tactical voting, some people do it and it doesn't lead to much, but this is a

concerted exercise of tactical voting and some of these constituencies and shifting thousands of votes at the same time, so in some of the seats, as you just mentioned, it has certainly had an effect. ~ , ,., , , effect. absolutely. it will be fascinating _ effect. absolutely. it will be fascinating to _ effect. absolutely. it will be fascinating to see _ effect. absolutely. it will be fascinating to see how - effect. absolutely. it will be fascinating to see how thatl effect. absolutely. it will be - fascinating to see how that shapes out on the regional list tomorrow. something were picking up at the start of the campaign was with the launch of alex salmond alba party, it drew attention to being able to use that regional vote tactically, either to help build a greater majority for independence or for staying in the union. but certainly, in the polling, what we have seen is that doesn't seem to have been benefiting alba as much as it has other pro—independence parties such as a scottish greens. we'll find out

tomorrow with the regional vote to see what the greens end up with is the other big pro—independence party in the scottish government. thank ou ve in the scottish government. thank you very much. — in the scottish government. thank you very much. just _ in the scottish government. thank you very much, just turning - in the scottish government. thank you very much, just turning to - you very much, just turning to james. foryoursense you very much, just turning to james. for your sense of the conservative performance, can be just principally about england although there are interesting examples in scotland and wales, i know that. what will the conservatives be looking at in terms of the area that were even stronger than expected today?— than expected today? certainly, as ou sa , than expected today? certainly, as you say, hartlepool, _ than expected today? certainly, as you say, hartlepool, the _ than expected today? certainly, as you say, hartlepool, the tees - than expected today? certainly, as i you say, hartlepool, the tees valley where _ you say, hartlepool, the tees valley where the _ you say, hartlepool, the tees valley where the conservative incumbent that won _ where the conservative incumbent that won a — where the conservative incumbent that won a huge aspect of the vote, conservatives will be very happy with those. they will also be happy to have _ with those. they will also be happy to have made away in the red wall areas _ to have made away in the red wall areas where they have done better on 2016, _ areas where they have done better on 2016. but _ areas where they have done better on 2016, but actually brought match where _ 2016, but actually brought match where they were in 2017 and 2019 and they will— where they were in 2017 and 2019 and they will be _ where they were in 2017 and 2019 and they will be looking to the south as well in _ they will be looking to the south as well in cambridgeshire where the

trends _ well in cambridgeshire where the trends that you saw in 2019 with more _ trends that you saw in 2019 with more liberal and more educated young voters _ more liberal and more educated young voters turned away from conservative votes~ _ voters turned away from conservative votes i_ voters turned away from conservative votes. i think you'll be looking back— votes. i think you'll be looking back at— votes. i think you'll be looking back at this and go, this is not 2019 — back at this and go, this is not 2019 i— back at this and go, this is not 2019. i think it is very easy to get carried _ 2019. i think it is very easy to get carried away with the results. for example — carried away with the results. for example hartlepool this morning, but that is— example hartlepool this morning, but that is one _ example hartlepool this morning, but that is one playing catch up. clearly. _ that is one playing catch up. clearly. in _ that is one playing catch up. clearly, in the mid term, they are in a clearly, in the mid term, they are ina very— clearly, in the mid term, they are in a very strong position. but they are not— in a very strong position. but they are not unconquerable either. that is interesting _ are not unconquerable either. trust is interesting because it means the conclusion i will certainly be noted by lots of people watching and i am just thinking, ok, if you are saying not incomparable, what would be the weak areas? given that we are talking about strength and strong performances, what would be the weak areas going forward for the conservatives based on the set of results? if conservatives based on the set of results? ., ., ~' conservatives based on the set of results? ., ., ~ ,., results? if we look in the polling ofthe results? if we look in the polling of the red _ results? if we look in the polling of the red wall, _ results? if we look in the polling of the red wall, obviously - results? if we look in the polling of the red wall, obviously it - results? if we look in the polling of the red wall, obviously it is i of the red wall, obviously it is difficult — of the red wall, obviously it is difficult to compare to 2019 because it was— difficult to compare to 2019 because it was a _ difficult to compare to 2019 because

it was a snap election, but if you look— it was a snap election, but if you look at _ it was a snap election, but if you look at some of the polling on the red wall, — look at some of the polling on the red wall, you can see that since 2019. _ red wall, you can see that since 2019. the — red wall, you can see that since 2019, the labour party has gained lib dem _ 2019, the labour party has gained lib dem voters. we are not seeing that in— lib dem voters. we are not seeing that in this — lib dem voters. we are not seeing that in this election because the lib dem — that in this election because the lib dem tend to be higher in local votes. _ lib dem tend to be higher in local votes. but — lib dem tend to be higher in local votes, but nationally that tends to be higher— votes, but nationally that tends to be higher and that even gives labour a boost _ be higher and that even gives labour a boost in _ be higher and that even gives labour a boost in those working class seats~ — a boost in those working class seats~ we _ a boost in those working class seats. we are looking today, what today— seats. we are looking today, what today is _ seats. we are looking today, what today is certainly shown us is that brexit— today is certainly shown us is that brexit and — today is certainly shown us is that brexit and jeremy corbyn were not the only— brexit and jeremy corbyn were not the only conditions the conservative needed _ the only conditions the conservative needed to— the only conditions the conservative needed to win his votes, they are holding _ needed to win his votes, they are holding onto them despite the two things— holding onto them despite the two things being off the plate. we did polling _ things being off the plate. we did polling on election day we did polling — polling on election day we did polling yesterday and that shows the main reason that people are voting for the _ main reason that people are voting for the tories is that they are the most _ for the tories is that they are the most competent party and most able to handle _ most competent party and most able to handle the pandemic and a vaccine roll-out _ to handle the pandemic and a vaccine roll—out most well. if i were to change — roll—out most well. if i were to change it — roll—out most well. if i were to change it if— roll—out most well. if i were to change it if you run them last year when _ change it if you run them last year when people were doubting the

competence of the conservatives, that could — competence of the conservatives, that could look very different. that is what _ that could look very different. that is what the — that could look very different. that is what the labour party need to look— is what the labour party need to look out — is what the labour party need to look out for. if it happened yesterday, it could be in different conditions. can yesterday, it could be in different conditions. . . yesterday, it could be in different conditions. ., , , , ., conditions. can i 'ust pick up on map from h conditions. can i 'ust pick up on map from krrsty _ conditions. can ijust pick up on map from kirsty here _ conditions. can ijust pick up on map from kirsty here in - conditions. can ijust pick up on - map from kirsty here in edinburgh. just what _ map from kirsty here in edinburgh. just what you — map from kirsty here in edinburgh. just what you are _ map from kirsty here in edinburgh. just what you are saying _ map from kirsty here in edinburgh. just what you are saying on - map from kirsty here in edinburgh. just what you are saying on the - just what you are saying on the touch _ just what you are saying on the touch of— just what you are saying on the touch of oak— just what you are saying on the touch of oak and _ just what you are saying on the touch of oak and the _ just what you are saying on the i touch of oak and the effectiveness of it shifting — touch of oak and the effectiveness of it shifting the _ touch of oak and the effectiveness of it shifting the dial, _ touch of oak and the effectiveness of it shifting the dial, and - touch of oak and the effectiveness of it shifting the dial, and what . of it shifting the dial, and what we're _ of it shifting the dial, and what we're saying _ of it shifting the dial, and what we're saying earlier— of it shifting the dial, and what we're saying earlier was - of it shifting the dial, and what we're saying earlier was the i we're saying earlier was the learning _ we're saying earlier was the learning process _ we're saying earlier was the learning process for- we're saying earlier was the learning process for that - we're saying earlier was the i learning process for that came we're saying earlier was the - learning process for that came much earlier _ learning process for that came much earlier it _ learning process for that came much earlier it came _ learning process for that came much earlier it came in— learning process for that came much earlier. it came in the _ learning process for that came much earlier. it came in the first _ earlier. it came in the first election— earlier. it came in the first election referendum - earlier. it came in the first election referendum when| earlier. it came in the first - election referendum when people prepared — election referendum when people prepared to — election referendum when people prepared to part— election referendum when people prepared to part their— election referendum when people prepared to part their political - prepared to part their political differences _ prepared to part their political differences to _ prepared to part their political differences to have _ prepared to part their political differences to have their - prepared to part their political i differences to have their cultural allegiance — differences to have their cultural allegiance and _ differences to have their cultural allegiance and whether - differences to have their cultural allegiance and whether they- allegiance and whether they supported _ allegiance and whether they supported independence - allegiance and whether they supported independence or| allegiance and whether they. supported independence or not allegiance and whether they- supported independence or not but actually— supported independence or not but actually they've _ supported independence or not but actually they've got _ supported independence or not but actually they've got form _ supported independence or not but actually they've got form here - supported independence or not but actually they've got form here in i actually they've got form here in training — actually they've got form here in training in— actually they've got form here in training in any— actually they've got form here in training in any deleting - actually they've got form here in training in any deleting —— - actually they've got form here in training in any deleting —— and i actually they've got form here in| training in any deleting —— and do you think— training in any deleting —— and do you think that _ training in any deleting —— and do you think that it _ training in any deleting —— and do you think that it will _ training in any deleting —— and do you think that it will be _ training in any deleting —— and do you think that it will be leading i training in any deleting —— and do| you think that it will be leading up to the _ you think that it will be leading up to the possibility _ you think that it will be leading up to the possibility of _ you think that it will be leading up to the possibility of another - to the possibility of another referendum. _ to the possibility of another referendum. lit— to the possibility of another referendum.— to the possibility of another referendum. , , . ., referendum. it is difficult to say because of— referendum. it is difficult to say because of course, _ referendum. it is difficult to say because of course, the - referendum. it is difficult to say

because of course, the snp - referendum. it is difficult to say| because of course, the snp will, come what may, be the dominant party still in the scottish parliament. it has been 14 years in government now. actually, when we ask voters about party competence in scotland which parties they trust the most, the snp does still come out as the most trusted party on a whole range of key issues, from the economy to education, to the nhs. but i think it is a really interesting question about certainly we have seen more alignment between parties that people are going to vote for and their position on independence. and so we will need to see how that shakes out over the coming months. james, you were advising douglas ross _ james, you were advising douglas ross and — james, you were advising douglas ross and what _ james, you were advising douglas ross and what they— james, you were advising douglas ross and what they are _ james, you were advising douglas ross and what they are boris - james, you were advising douglas . ross and what they are boris johnson at the _ ross and what they are boris johnson at the end _ ross and what they are boris johnson at the end of— ross and what they are boris johnson at the end of this, _ ross and what they are boris johnson at the end of this, what _ ross and what they are boris johnson at the end of this, what would -

ross and what they are boris johnson at the end of this, what would you . at the end of this, what would you be giving — at the end of this, what would you be giving us — at the end of this, what would you be giving us advice _ at the end of this, what would you be giving us advice with _ at the end of this, what would you be giving us advice with regards. at the end of this, what would you| be giving us advice with regards to the relationship _ be giving us advice with regards to the relationship with _ be giving us advice with regards to the relationship with boris - be giving us advice with regards to i the relationship with borisjohnson? it the relationship with borisjohnson? it really— the relationship with borisjohnson? it really depends _ the relationship with borisjohnson? it really depends on _ the relationship with borisjohnson? it really depends on what _ the relationship with borisjohnson? it really depends on what side - the relationship with borisjohnson? it really depends on what side the i it really depends on what side the snp coming down on. if they do get majority. _ snp coming down on. if they do get majority. l— snp coming down on. if they do get majority, i think borisjohnson has to step _ majority, i think borisjohnson has to step carefully. a lot of research that i_ to step carefully. a lot of research that i had — to step carefully. a lot of research that i had done into voting for snp, many— that i had done into voting for snp, many people are not that keen on referendum. if borisjohnson does many people are not that keen on referendum. if boris johnson does a flat know. _ referendum. if boris johnson does a flat know. if— referendum. if boris johnson does a flat know, if the conservatives say definitely — flat know, if the conservatives say definitely never, it might be that douglas— definitely never, it might be that douglas ross has to say not now, now is not _ douglas ross has to say not now, now is not the _ douglas ross has to say not now, now is not the time instead. if there is not an— is not the time instead. if there is not an snp— is not the time instead. if there is not an snp majority, even if there is an— not an snp majority, even if there is an independence majority, i suspect— is an independence majority, i suspect that politically that does -ive suspect that politically that does give borisjohnson a little bit more room _ give borisjohnson a little bit more room for— give borisjohnson a little bit more room for manoeuvre to say no. give boris johnson a little bit more room for manoeuvre to say no. james and emily. _ room for manoeuvre to say no. james and emily. good — room for manoeuvre to say no. james and emily. good to — room for manoeuvre to say no. james and emily, good to have _ room for manoeuvre to say no. james and emily, good to have you - room for manoeuvre to say no. james and emily, good to have you with - room for manoeuvre to say no. james and emily, good to have you with us. | and emily, good to have you with us. thank you both for your insightful comments and it is good to have your

company for tonight. we'll be talking to an author and broadcaster in a few seconds to give us their thoughts. before that, can we run through the state of the parties in england? have we maybe half of the councils declared? absolutely. these are the councillors that you are seeing for each of the main parties and as he can see, the conservatives have gained 160 councillors, labour has lost 174 and lib dems have lost 27, but green has gained 40 and ukip is lost 17. if we take a look at what that means in terms of councils, as he said, 73 of 143 councils, as he said, 73 of 143 councils has declared, labour has lost three of —— control of four and conservatives have gained... we are

just going to cardiff west. the cardiff west — just going to cardiff west. tie: cardiff west constituency declares that the total votes are as follows. speaks welsh so, this is cardiff west and this is the seat where the first minister is standing. not a the seat where the first minister is standing. nota big the seat where the first minister is standing. not a big majority last time, let's see. standing. not a big ma'ority last time, let's seeh standing. not a big ma'ority last time, let's see. plaid cymru, the -a of time, let's see. plaid cymru, the party of wales. _ time, let's see. plaid cymru, the party of wales, 5897 _ time, let's see. plaid cymru, the party of wales, 5897 votes. - party of wales, 5897 votes. speaks welsh captain linea, 95 votes. abolish the welsh assembly party, 682 votes. dramatically down in 2016. mark

drake, dramatically down in 2016. mark drake. 17.665 _ dramatically down in 2016. mark drake, 17,665 votes. _ dramatically down in 2016. mark drake, 17,665 votes. that - dramatically down in 2016. mark drake, 17,665 votes. that is - dramatically down in 2016. mark drake, 17,665 votes. that is a i drake, 17,665 votes. that is a massive majority _ drake, 17,665 votes. that is a massive majority for - drake, 17,665 votes. that is a massive majority for the - drake, 17,665 votes. that is a massive majority for the first| massive majority for the first minister. massive ma'ority for the first minister. . . massive ma'ority for the first minister. ,, ., , massive ma'ority for the first minister. ,, . , . , minister. sean driscoll, welsh conservative _ minister. sean driscoll, welsh conservative party _ minister. sean driscoll, welsh conservative party candidate, | minister. sean driscoll, welsh - conservative party candidate, 6454 votes. speaks welsh david peter griffin, green party, 1287 votes. we have got majority of 11,000 for mark drake said, last time it was 100.— time it was 100. and the liberal democrats _ time it was 100. and the liberal democrats with _ time it was 100. and the liberal democrats with 803. _ time it was 100. and the liberal democrats with 803. we'll - time it was 100. and the liberal democrats with 803. we'll stay | time it was 100. and the liberal - democrats with 803. we'll stay with this because — democrats with 803. we'll stay with this because we _ democrats with 803. we'll stay with this because we may _ democrats with 803. we'll stay with this because we may well— democrats with 803. we'll stay with this because we may well get - democrats with 803. we'll stay with this because we may well get a - this because we may well get a speech from mr drake said. ihleiil

this because we may well get a speech from mr drake said. neiljohn mcavo , speech from mr drake said. neiljohn mcavoy. — speech from mr drake said. neiljohn mcavoy. nick _ speech from mr drake said. neiljohn mcavoy, nick mullins, _ speech from mr drake said. neiljohn mcavoy, nick mullins, reform- speech from mr drake said. neiljohn| mcavoy, nick mullins, reform uk, 325 hertz. therefore _ mcavoy, nick mullins, reform uk, 325 hertz. therefore i _ mcavoy, nick mullins, reform uk, 325 hertz. therefore i give _ mcavoy, nick mullins, reform uk, 325 hertz. therefore i give public - 325 hertz. therefore i give public notice that _ 325 hertz. therefore i give public notice that mark _ 325 hertz. therefore i give public notice that mark drakeford - 325 hertz. therefore i give public notice that mark drakeford is - 325 hertz. therefore i give public| notice that mark drakeford is duly elected as a member senate for the cardiff assembly.— cardiff assembly. look at that ma'ori cardiff assembly. look at that majority of — cardiff assembly. look at that majority of the _ cardiff assembly. look at that majority of the land _ cardiff assembly. look at that majority of the land fall, - cardiff assembly. look at that majority of the land fall, a - majority of the land fall, a significant increase on his majority last time. significant increase on his ma'ority last time. ., ., , ., ., , last time. the total number of votes cast across — last time. the total number of votes cast across cardiff _ last time. the total number of votes cast across cardiff west... _ last time. the total number of votes cast across cardiff west... let's - cast across cardiff west... let's have a look _ cast across cardiff west... let's have a look at _ cast across cardiff west... let's have a look at the _ cast across cardiff west... let's have a look at the share, - cast across cardiff west... let's have a look at the share, stay i cast across cardiff west... let's have a look at the share, stay with it just have a look at the share, stay with itjust in case we hear from the first minister, mark drakeford with 13%, plaid cymru down 16 which is a big drop in last time. and on the national side, they are up 10% and the greens are more or less the same

and the lib dems are more or less the same. let's see what's going on. i will now us the successful candidate say a few words. mark drakeford. _ candidate say a few words. mark drakeford, the _ candidate say a few words. mark drakeford, the first _ candidate say a few words. mark drakeford, the first minister of wales. let's see what he has to say about the performance of its parties. speaks welsh —— speaks welsh i am going to be very brief as it is rather late. i am going to be very brief as it is rather late-— i am going to be very brief as it is rather late. ., ,, , ., ., , ., rather late. thank you for everyone sta int rather late. thank you for everyone sta in: so rather late. thank you for everyone staying so in _ rather late. thank you for everyone staying so in these _ rather late. thank you for everyone staying so in these extra _ rather late. thank you for everyone staying so in these extra ordinary i staying so in these extra ordinary circumstances of the selection. can i thank my opponents from the mainstream parties during the selection, for the democratically successful way and respectful way this campaign is being conducted. i really appreciate that. i must of

course thank all my supporters who have worked throughout this campaign without having a candidate here to work with them for so many evenings and parts of the last month. you have been absolutely fantastic. my agent, selwyn hughes, once again and everybody else who has played their part. speaks welsh and of course, mostly and mainly to the residents of the west cardiff constituency for once again having faith in me and welsh labour to represent them at the senedd for the next five years. we represent them at the senedd for the next five years-— next five years. we didn't really aet over next five years. we didn't really get over commentary _ next five years. we didn't really get over commentary on - next five years. we didn't really get over commentary on how i next five years. we didn't really. get over commentary on how the next five years. we didn't really - get over commentary on how the first minister's party stand, but i can't believe that he is not pleased with

how well welsh labour have done in so many areas. they have outperformed expectations, fought off conservative opposition and gained from ply come through. it will be very happy for mark drakeford. —— plaid cymru. but it is strange not to be making any tub thumping speech, but let's face it, when we heard from keir starmer early run today, that was a contribution that said all about, we have learnt lessons and we need to reconnect with our voters. that is not a message that mark drakeford needs to be giving on the basis of these results. i think there may well be questions about whether there are any questions. as i spoke to the welsh health minister

earlier, are there any lessons they could share with the labour in london. some of those areas in wales, where there are heavy brexit voting areas. there are some pertinent lessons to be learned. similar challenges for parts of north east england, for example. but as a result and from cardiff west. at quarter to ten, the first minister re—elected and kirsty, i didn't think we would get to cardiff weston is good to see that and to be able to say that the result has been declared in the first minister is backin declared in the first minister is back in and from our point of view, that kind of ties up the welsh labour story, doesn't it? that kind of ties up the welsh labourstory, doesn't it? it that kind of ties up the welsh labour story, doesn't it? it does. but we have _ labour story, doesn't it? it does. but we have also _ labour story, doesn't it? it does. but we have also got _ labour story, doesn't it? it does. but we have also got the - labour story, doesn't it? it does. - but we have also got the opportunity to speak to lord danny finkelstein at the times and steve richards and

all these different elements. let me first of all, good evening to both of you and thank you for being with us at this time on friday night. let's take you right back to the hartlepool by—election this morning. danny finkelstein. and subsequently, the most rattled keir starmer i have ever seen at an interview today. clearly, labour is in a very big bind now about the future direction. absolutely. i can't understand why because _ absolutely. i can't understand why because when i track to death i can understand — because when i track to death i can understand why he was rattled because — understand why he was rattled because when i tried to think of what _ because when i tried to think of what advice i would give, it is very hard _ what advice i would give, it is very hard if— what advice i would give, it is very hard if he — what advice i would give, it is very hard. if he tries to go for that, can he — hard. if he tries to go for that, can he win _ hard. if he tries to go for that, can he win the next general election? _ can he win the next general election? is labour's liberal base bil election? is labour's liberal base big enough. it is not doing very well— big enough. it is not doing very well as— big enough. it is not doing very well as this after they lost the last election. it

well as this after they lost the last election.— well as this after they lost the last election. it is interesting, it is almost as— last election. it is interesting, it is almost as if— last election. it is interesting, it is almost as if we _ last election. it is interesting, it is almost as if we want - last election. it is interesting, it is almost as if we want a - last election. it is interesting, it is almost as if we want a rerun i last election. it is interesting, it| is almost as if we want a rerun of the blair blame, but it is not the 90s and it properly won't work now because we have a particular set of labour voters whose families are labour voters whose families are labour voters who don't want that any more. he labour voters who don't want that an more. . . . any more. he is half right, it is artl any more. he is half right, it is partly about — any more. he is half right, it is partly about leadership. - any more. he is half right, it is - partly about leadership. successful leaders _ partly about leadership. successful leaders in — partly about leadership. successful leaders in british— partly about leadership. successful leaders in british politics _ partly about leadership. successful leaders in british politics are - partly about leadership. successful leaders in british politics are both. leaders in british politics are both actors _ leaders in british politics are both actors and — leaders in british politics are both actors and teachers. _ leaders in british politics are both actors and teachers. i— leaders in british politics are both actors and teachers. i don't - leaders in british politics are both actors and teachers. i don't say. actors and teachers. i don't say that— actors and teachers. i don't say that in— actors and teachers. i don't say that in a — actors and teachers. i don't say that in a derogatory— actors and teachers. i don't say that in a derogatory sense, - actors and teachers. i don't say that in a derogatory sense, it i actors and teachers. i don't sayj that in a derogatory sense, it is not the — that in a derogatory sense, it is not the only— that in a derogatory sense, it is not the only qualification - that in a derogatory sense, it is not the only qualification of- not the only qualification of leadership. _ not the only qualification of leadership, but— not the only qualification of leadership, but it _ not the only qualification of leadership, but it is - not the only qualification of leadership, but it is an- not the only qualification of- leadership, but it is an essential one~ _ leadership, but it is an essential one you — leadership, but it is an essential one you have _ leadership, but it is an essential one. you have to _ leadership, but it is an essential one. you have to communicate, | one. you have to communicate, explain — one. you have to communicate, explain and _ one. you have to communicate, explain and engage _ one. you have to communicate, explain and engage and - one. you have to communicate, explain and engage and those i one. you have to communicate, i explain and engage and those who have had _ explain and engage and those who have had the — explain and engage and those who have had the ability— explain and engage and those who have had the ability to _ explain and engage and those who have had the ability to do - explain and engage and those who have had the ability to do that - explain and engage and those who have had the ability to do that had| have had the ability to do that had been _ have had the ability to do that had been electorally_ have had the ability to do that had been electorally successful. - have had the ability to do that had been electorally successful. i - have had the ability to do that hadi been electorally successful. i agree with him _ been electorally successful. i agree with him about _ been electorally successful. i agree with him about that. _ been electorally successful. i agree with him about that. i— been electorally successful. i agree with him about that. i don't - been electorally successful. i agree with him about that. i don't agree i with him about that. i don't agree with him about that. i don't agree with them — with him about that. idon't agree with them if— with him about that. i don't agree with them if he _ with him about that. idon't agree with them if he is— with him about that. i don't agree with them if he is arguing - with him about that. i don't agree with them if he is arguing that - with him about that. i don't agree i with them if he is arguing that what is required — with them if he is arguing that what is required is — with them if he is arguing that what is required is a _ with them if he is arguing that what is required is a return— with them if he is arguing that what is required is a return to _ with them if he is arguing that what is required is a return to the - with them if he is arguing that what is required is a return to the 1990s| is required is a return to the 1990s or that _ is required is a return to the 1990s or that tony— is required is a return to the 1990s or that tony blair— is required is a return to the 1990s or that tony blair was _ is required is a return to the 1990s or that tony blair was a _ is required is a return to the 1990s or that tony blair was a product. is required is a return to the 1990s or that tony blair was a product of| or that tony blair was a product of a distinct—

or that tony blair was a product of a distinct period _ or that tony blair was a product of a distinct period in _ or that tony blair was a product of a distinct period in british- a distinct period in british politics. _ a distinct period in british politics, very— a distinct period in british politics, very different - a distinct period in british. politics, very different from a distinct period in british- politics, very different from now. he is _ politics, very different from now. he is and — politics, very different from now. he is and was— politics, very different from now. he is and was a— politics, very different from now. he is and was a passionate - politics, very different from now. i he is and was a passionate remain. he is and was a passionate remain. he is— he is and was a passionate remain. he is part _ he is and was a passionate remain. he is part of— he is and was a passionate remain. he is part ofa _ he is and was a passionate remain. he is part of a poetic— he is and was a passionate remain. he is part of a poetic liberal- he is part of a poetic liberal consensus. _ he is part of a poetic liberal consensus, as— he is part of a poetic liberal consensus, as was - he is part of a poetic liberal consensus, as was david i he is part of a poetic liberal- consensus, as was david cameron he is part of a poetic liberal— consensus, as was david cameron and 0sborne _ consensus, as was david cameron and 0sborne as— consensus, as was david cameron and 0sborne as well — consensus, as was david cameron and osborne as well. miles _ consensus, as was david cameron and osborne as well. miles away - consensus, as was david cameron and osborne as well. miles away from - consensus, as was david cameron and osborne as well. miles away from the | osborne as well. miles away from the ideas whirling — osborne as well. miles away from the ideas whirling around _ osborne as well. miles away from the ideas whirling around british - ideas whirling around british politics— ideas whirling around british politics now _ ideas whirling around british politics now. levelling - ideas whirling around british politics now. levelling up, i ideas whirling around british - politics now. levelling up, build back— politics now. levelling up, build back better. _ politics now. levelling up, build back better, connecting - politics now. levelling up, build back better, connecting the - politics now. levelling up, build back better, connecting the left| back better, connecting the left behind — back better, connecting the left behind all— back better, connecting the left behind. all implying _ back better, connecting the left behind. all implying agency- back better, connecting the lefti behind. all implying agency with back better, connecting the left - behind. all implying agency with the state in _ behind. all implying agency with the state in ways — behind. all implying agency with the state in ways that _ behind. all implying agency with the state in ways that haven't _ behind. all implying agency with the state in ways that haven't been - behind. all implying agency with the state in ways that haven't been part| state in ways that haven't been part of british— state in ways that haven't been part of british politics _ state in ways that haven't been part of british politics for _ state in ways that haven't been part of british politics for a _ state in ways that haven't been part of british politics for a long - state in ways that haven't been part of british politics for a long time. i of british politics for a long time. danny— of british politics for a long time. danny finkelstein, _ of british politics for a long time. danny finkelstein, he _ of british politics for a long time. danny finkelstein, he wrote - of british politics for a long time. danny finkelstein, he wrote a - of british politics for a long time. i danny finkelstein, he wrote a piece earlier in the week that there are structural problems. if the tories tie their policies and so closely with the red wall. it is tie their policies and so closely with the red wall.— tie their policies and so closely with the red wall. it is a very good oli for with the red wall. it is a very good policy for now- — with the red wall. it is a very good policy for now. you _ with the red wall. it is a very good policy for now. you build - with the red wall. it is a very good policy for now. you build a - policy for now. you build a coalition _ policy for now. you build a coalition which is stronger and wider— coalition which is stronger and wider than that of labour, but you do that— wider than that of labour, but you do that by— wider than that of labour, but you do that by supposing the medium to longer— do that by supposing the medium to longer term. do that by supposing the medium to longerterm. i do that by supposing the medium to longer term. i think what's the eve was missing —

longer term. i think what's the eve was missing in his analysis is the conservative party is very adaptable to circumstances and has always been. _ to circumstances and has always been. it— to circumstances and has always been. it is— to circumstances and has always been, it is the advantage over labour~ — been, it is the advantage over labour~ it— been, it is the advantage over labour. it doesn't mind changing coalition— labour. it doesn't mind changing coalition and it doesn't mind changing _ coalition and it doesn't mind changing its position, for example from _ changing its position, for example from 2010 — changing its position, for example from 2010 when it faced a deficit election— from 2010 when it faced a deficit election and that was very advantageous compared to the position— advantageous compared to the position now. after brexit, they don't _ position now. after brexit, they don't mind _ position now. after brexit, they don't mind doing that. they can now take what— don't mind doing that. they can now take what looks like a potent but reasonably short term position. 0lder— reasonably short term position. older voters, reasonably short term position. oldervoters, let reasonably short term position. older voters, let urban voters, win seats _ older voters, let urban voters, win seats in— older voters, let urban voters, win seats in places you haven't got them before _ seats in places you haven't got them before but— seats in places you haven't got them before but you do endanger in the longer— before but you do endanger in the longer term your younger support and your city— longer term your younger support and your city support and if the country becomes— your city support and if the country becomes more urban a more diverse and overtime or liberal, you may end ”p and overtime or liberal, you may end up with— and overtime or liberal, you may end up with a _ and overtime or liberal, you may end up with a demographic that looks more _ up with a demographic that looks more short—term. but they can adapt to that _ more short—term. but they can adapt to that when — more short—term. but they can adapt to that when it happens i guess. can i 'ust rom

to that when it happens i guess. can ljust romp in _ to that when it happens i guess. can ljust romp in -- _ to that when it happens i guess. cari ijust romp in —— jumping? you've been reporting so long in these changes. we had a period where the prime minister can face allegations of sleaze and that the minister is working with him can face allegations of, you know, giving contracts to friends and all the rest of it and for that i have no electoral effect at all? is that where we are? it electoral effect at all? is that where we are?— electoral effect at all? is that where we are? it would seem so. these elections _ where we are? it would seem so. these elections suggest - where we are? it would seem so. these elections suggest exactly i these elections suggest exactly that _ these elections suggest exactly that~ that— these elections suggest exactly that. that doesn't _ these elections suggest exactly that. that doesn't mean, - these elections suggest exactly that. that doesn't mean, as - these elections suggest exactly i that. that doesn't mean, as danny finkelstein— that. that doesn't mean, as danny finkelstein is— that. that doesn't mean, as danny finkelstein is argued _ that. that doesn't mean, as danny finkelstein is argued before, - that. that doesn't mean, as danny finkelstein is argued before, that. finkelstein is argued before, that at some — finkelstein is argued before, that at some point. _ finkelstein is argued before, that at some point, they— finkelstein is argued before, that at some point, they don't - finkelstein is argued before, thatl at some point, they don't become potent~ _ at some point, they don't become potent. evidently, _ at some point, they don't become potent. evidently, that— at some point, they don't become potent. evidently, that is- at some point, they don't become potent. evidently, that is not- at some point, they don't become potent. evidently, that is not thei potent. evidently, that is not the case _ potent. evidently, that is not the case at _ potent. evidently, that is not the case at the — potent. evidently, that is not the case at the moment _ potent. evidently, that is not the case at the moment because - potent. evidently, that is not the case at the moment because of. potent. evidently, that is not the - case at the moment because of these results _ case at the moment because of these results again. — case at the moment because of these results again. it— case at the moment because of these results. again, it is _ case at the moment because of these results. again, it is a _ case at the moment because of these results. again, it is a danger- case at the moment because of these results. again, it is a danger here - results. again, it is a danger here to misread — results. again, it is a danger here to misread the _ results. again, it is a danger here to misread the mid—19— results. again, it is a danger here to misread the mid—19 90s, - results. again, it is a danger here to misread the mid—19 90s, keiri to misread the mid—19 90s, keir starmer— to misread the mid—19 90s, keir starmer has _ to misread the mid—19 90s, keir starmer has been _ to misread the mid—19 90s, keir starmer has been going - to misread the mid—19 90s, keir starmer has been going on- to misread the mid—19 90s, keiri starmer has been going on about to misread the mid—19 90s, keir- starmer has been going on about tory sleaze _ starmer has been going on about tory sleaze is— starmer has been going on about tory sleaze is tony — starmer has been going on about tory sleaze is tony blair _ starmer has been going on about tory sleaze is tony blair went _ starmer has been going on about tory sleaze is tony blair went on _ starmer has been going on about tory sleaze is tony blair went on about - sleaze is tony blair went on about tory sleaze. — sleaze is tony blair went on about tory sleaze. but _ sleaze is tony blair went on about tory sleaze, but sleaze _ sleaze is tony blair went on about tory sleaze, but sleaze was - sleaze is tony blair went on about. tory sleaze, but sleaze was only an element _ tory sleaze, but sleaze was only an element of — tory sleaze, but sleaze was only an element of the _

tory sleaze, but sleaze was only an element of the fall— tory sleaze, but sleaze was only an element of the fall of— tory sleaze, but sleaze was only an element of the fall of the _ tory sleaze, but sleaze was only an element of the fall of the tories - tory sleaze, but sleaze was only an element of the fall of the tories in| element of the fall of the tories in 97 and _ element of the fall of the tories in 97 and one — element of the fall of the tories in 97 and one i— element of the fall of the tories in 97 and one i don't _ element of the fall of the tories in 97 and one i don't think— element of the fall of the tories in 97 and one i don't think that - element of the fall of the tories in| 97 and one i don't think that would be particularly— 97 and one i don't think that would be particularly powerful _ 97 and one i don't think that would be particularly powerful in - 97 and one i don't think that would be particularly powerful in its - 97 and one i don't think that would be particularly powerful in its own. j be particularly powerful in its own. it is be particularly powerful in its own. it is always — be particularly powerful in its own. it is always combined _ be particularly powerful in its own. it is always combined with - be particularly powerful in its own. it is always combined with other. it is always combined with other factors. — it is always combined with other factors, which— it is always combined with other factors, which might _ it is always combined with other factors, which might still- it is always combined with other factors, which might still comei it is always combined with other. factors, which might still come into play but _ factors, which might still come into play but evidently— factors, which might still come into play but evidently haven't - factors, which might still come into play but evidently haven't yet. - factors, which might still come into play but evidently haven't yet. justl play but evidently haven't yet. just followin: play but evidently haven't yet. just following on. _ play but evidently haven't yet. following on, steve, as well play but evidently haven't yet.- following on, steve, as well because earlier i was talking to the labour mp for hove and shadowjustice minister and was struck by the nature of language he used for the need for change. very much along the lines of what keir starmer said. we need to realign our priorities on deeper change and then he said this will happen in the next few weeks. obviously, policy changes and matter of weeks would be rather ambitious. what kind of change is what we need in labour to see that they have changed in a matter of weeks? what could they be talking about? there is a aood could they be talking about? there is a good question _ could they be talking about? there is a good question and _ could they be talking about? there is a good question and there - could they be talking about? there is a good question and there is a danger— is a good question and there is a danger of—

is a good question and there is a danger of case. _ is a good question and there is a danger of case, and _ is a good question and there is a danger of case, and keir- is a good question and there is a | danger of case, and keir starmer is a good question and there is a i danger of case, and keir starmer in a panic— danger of case, and keir starmer in a panic because _ danger of case, and keir starmer in a panic because he _ danger of case, and keir starmer in a panic because he feels _ danger of case, and keir starmer in a panic because he feels besieged. | danger of case, and keir starmer in| a panic because he feels besieged. i don't _ a panic because he feels besieged. i don't think— a panic because he feels besieged. i don't think it — a panic because he feels besieged. i don't think it would _ a panic because he feels besieged. i don't think it would be _ a panic because he feels besieged. i don't think it would be a _ a panic because he feels besieged. i don't think it would be a good - a panic because he feels besieged. i don't think it would be a good time i don't think it would be a good time to explore — don't think it would be a good time to explore the _ don't think it would be a good time to explore the nature _ don't think it would be a good time to explore the nature of _ don't think it would be a good time to explore the nature of that - to explore the nature of that change. _ to explore the nature of that change. but _ to explore the nature of that change. but i _ to explore the nature of that change, but i will— to explore the nature of that change, but i will observe i to explore the nature of that i change, but i will observe this to explore the nature of that - change, but i will observe this that the endless — change, but i will observe this that the endless stuff _ change, but i will observe this that the endless stuff on _ change, but i will observe this that the endless stuff on twitter- change, but i will observe this that the endless stuff on twitter from i the endless stuff on twitter from commentators _ the endless stuff on twitter from commentators saying _ the endless stuff on twitter from commentators saying that - the endless stuff on twitter from| commentators saying that labour needs— commentators saying that labour needs to — commentators saying that labour needs to change, _ commentators saying that labour needs to change, but _ commentators saying that labour needs to change, but being - commentators saying that labour| needs to change, but being vague commentators saying that labour- needs to change, but being vague and imprecise _ needs to change, but being vague and imprecise about — needs to change, but being vague and imprecise about how. _ needs to change, but being vague and imprecise about how. i— needs to change, but being vague and imprecise about how. i think- needs to change, but being vague and imprecise about how. i think it- needs to change, but being vague and imprecise about how. i think it is- imprecise about how. i think it is within— imprecise about how. i think it is within boris— imprecise about how. i think it is within borisjohnson's_ imprecise about how. i think it is| within boris johnson's theoretical agenda. — within boris johnson's theoretical agenda. guite _ within boris johnson's theoretical agenda. quite a _ within boris johnson's theoretical agenda, quite a lot— within boris johnson's theoretical agenda, quite a lot of— within boris johnson's theoretical agenda, quite a lot of space - within boris johnson's theoretical agenda, quite a lot of space for. agenda, quite a lot of space for labour — agenda, quite a lot of space for labour if— agenda, quite a lot of space for labour. if the _ agenda, quite a lot of space for labour. if the tory _ agenda, quite a lot of space for labour. if the tory government| agenda, quite a lot of space for- labour. if the tory government does it, labour. if the tory government does it. back— labour. if the tory government does it. back it _ labour. if the tory government does it. back it as— labour. if the tory government does it, back it. as boris _ labour. if the tory government does it, back it. as boris sometimes - it, back it. as boris sometimes cleverly— it, back it. as boris sometimes cleverly backed _ it, back it. as boris sometimes cleverly backed blair. - it, back it. as boris sometimes cleverly backed blair. if- it, back it. as boris sometimes cleverly backed blair. if they i it, back it. as boris sometimes i cleverly backed blair. if they don't do the _ cleverly backed blair. if they don't do the levelling _ cleverly backed blair. if they don't do the levelling up _ cleverly backed blair. if they don't do the levelling up as _ cleverly backed blair. if they don't do the levelling up as it _ cleverly backed blair. if they don't do the levelling up as it implies. cleverly backed blair. if they don't do the levelling up as it implies or they don't— do the levelling up as it implies or they don't reconnect _ do the levelling up as it implies or they don't reconnect with - do the levelling up as it implies or they don't reconnect with the - do the levelling up as it implies or they don't reconnect with the lefti they don't reconnect with the left behind. _ they don't reconnect with the left behind. they— they don't reconnect with the left behind, they don't _ they don't reconnect with the left behind, they don't build - they don't reconnect with the left behind, they don't build back- they don't reconnect with the left i behind, they don't build back better in the _ behind, they don't build back better in the way— behind, they don't build back better in the way that _ behind, they don't build back better in the way that it _ behind, they don't build back better in the way that it implies, _ behind, they don't build back better in the way that it implies, there - behind, they don't build back better in the way that it implies, there is i in the way that it implies, there is space _ in the way that it implies, there is space the — in the way that it implies, there is space the. obviously, _ in the way that it implies, there is space the. obviously, there - in the way that it implies, there is space the. obviously, there are i in the way that it implies, there is i space the. obviously, there are 1000 space the. obviously, there are1000 other— space the. obviously, there are 1000 other things — space the. obviously, there are 1000 other things but _ space the. obviously, there are 1000 other things but because _ space the. obviously, there are 1000 other things but because the - other things but because the changing _ other things but because the changing calls— other things but because the changing calls for— other things but because the changing calls for go - other things but because the changing calls for go back i other things but because the changing calls for go back to|

changing calls for go back to centre. _ changing calls for go back to centre. do— changing calls for go back to centre, do this, _ changing calls for go back to centre, do this, do - changing calls for go back to centre, do this, do that, - changing calls for go back to centre, do this, do that, are notoriously— centre, do this, do that, are notoriously imprecise - centre, do this, do that, are notoriously imprecise and i i centre, do this, do that, are - notoriously imprecise and i think you are — notoriously imprecise and i think you are right— notoriously imprecise and i think you are right to _ notoriously imprecise and i think you are right to question - notoriously imprecise and i think| you are right to question whether weeks _ you are right to question whether weeks - — you are right to question whether weeks - the — you are right to question whether weeks — the nature _ you are right to question whether weeks — the nature of— you are right to question whether weeks — the nature of the - you are right to question whether weeks — the nature of the change you are right to question whether - weeks — the nature of the change can be addressed — weeks — the nature of the change can be addressed. but _ weeks — the nature of the change can be addressed. but it— weeks — the nature of the change can be addressed. but it is— weeks — the nature of the change can be addressed. but it is urgent, - weeks — the nature of the change can be addressed. but it is urgent, or- be addressed. but it is urgent, or else they— be addressed. but it is urgent, or else they are _ be addressed. but it is urgent, or else they are in— be addressed. but it is urgent, or else they are in deep, _ be addressed. but it is urgent, or else they are in deep, deep- be addressed. but it is urgent, or. else they are in deep, deep trouble and this— else they are in deep, deep trouble and this might— else they are in deep, deep trouble and this might not _ else they are in deep, deep trouble and this might not be _ else they are in deep, deep trouble and this might not be the _ else they are in deep, deep trouble and this might not be the worst- else they are in deep, deep trouble and this might not be the worst of. and this might not be the worst of it. ., . ~ ., and this might not be the worst of it. ., a ., ., and this might not be the worst of it. quick one for you, steve, for me. it. quick one for you, steve, for me- you — it. quick one for you, steve, for me- you are _ it. quick one for you, steve, for me. you are the _ it. quick one for you, steve, for me. you are the great - it. quick one for you, steve, for me. you are the great chronicle j it. quick one for you, steve, for. me. you are the great chronicle are of prime minister's. has this been transformative for boris johnson himself, do you think? does it allow himself, do you think? does it allow him a place in this hall of prime minister's, attlee, blair, thatcher? he certainly will go down as one of their historic — he certainly will go down as one of their historic premise _ he certainly will go down as one of their historic premise does- he certainly will go down as one of. their historic premise does whatever happens _ their historic premise does whatever happens because _ their historic premise does whatever happens because of— their historic premise does whatever happens because of brexit, - their historic premise does whatever happens because of brexit, which i their historic premise does whatever. happens because of brexit, which was very much— happens because of brexit, which was very much him — happens because of brexit, which was very much him that _ happens because of brexit, which was very much him that delivered - happens because of brexit, which was very much him that delivered and - very much him that delivered and followed — very much him that delivered and followed with— very much him that delivered and followed with a _ very much him that delivered and followed with a big _ very much him that delivered and followed with a big majority. - very much him that delivered and followed with a big majority. thisj followed with a big majority. this realignment _ followed with a big majority. this realignment also _ followed with a big majority. this realignment also is _ followed with a big majority. this realignment also is a _ followed with a big majority. this realignment also is a historic- realignment also is a historic achievement— realignment also is a historic achievement on— realignment also is a historic achievement on his - realignment also is a historic achievement on his part. - realignment also is a historic. achievement on his part. there realignment also is a historic- achievement on his part. there is no question— achievement on his part. there is no question on— achievement on his part. there is no question on it. — achievement on his part. there is no question on it. it— achievement on his part. there is no question on it, it doesn't— achievement on his part. there is no question on it, it doesn't happen - question on it, it doesn't happen very often— question on it, it doesn't happen very often that _ question on it, it doesn't happen very often that a _ question on it, it doesn't happen very often that a party _ question on it, it doesn't happen very often that a party invade - very often that a party invade another— very often that a party invade another party _ very often that a party invade another party pass _ very often that a party invadej another party pass traditional very often that a party invade - another party pass traditional base in the _

another party pass traditional base in the way— another party pass traditional base in the way that _ another party pass traditional base in the way that he _ another party pass traditional base in the way that he managed - another party pass traditional base in the way that he managed to - another party pass traditional base in the way that he managed to do. | in the way that he managed to do. there _ in the way that he managed to do. there are — in the way that he managed to do. there are big _ in the way that he managed to do. there are big questions— in the way that he managed to do. there are big questions on- in the way that he managed to do. | there are big questions on whether he can— there are big questions on whether he can deliver— there are big questions on whether he can deliver on _ there are big questions on whether he can deliver on his— there are big questions on whether he can deliver on his broader- there are big questions on whether he can deliver on his broader policyj he can deliver on his broader policy agenda _ he can deliver on his broader policy agenda and — he can deliver on his broader policy agenda and questions _ he can deliver on his broader policy agenda and questions about - he can deliver on his broader policyi agenda and questions about conduct and all— agenda and questions about conduct and all sorts — agenda and questions about conduct and all sorts of— agenda and questions about conduct and all sorts of other _ agenda and questions about conduct and all sorts of other things, - agenda and questions about conduct and all sorts of other things, but - and all sorts of other things, but he will— and all sorts of other things, but he will be — and all sorts of other things, but he will be one _ and all sorts of other things, but he will be one of— and all sorts of other things, but he will be one of the _ and all sorts of other things, but he will be one of the historic- and all sorts of other things, but i he will be one of the historic prime minister's. — he will be one of the historic prime minister's, whatever— he will be one of the historic prime minister's, whatever happens - he will be one of the historic prime | minister's, whatever happens next. steve _ minister's, whatever happens next. steve richards, _ minister's, whatever happens next. steve richards, danny— minister's, whatever happens next. steve richards, danny finkelstein,| steve richards, danny finkelstein, thank you forjoining us.— thank you for 'oining us. running out of time. — thank you forjoining us. running out of time, but _ thank you forjoining us. running out of time, but i _ thank you forjoining us. running out of time, but i wanted - thank you forjoining us. running out of time, but i wanted to - thank you forjoining us. running out of time, but i wanted to askl thank you forjoining us. running i out of time, but i wanted to ask him another question. hopefully, we'll be seeing you tomorrow and happy to have you back tomorrow for the rest of the results. let's talk to john curtis again. thank you for providing us with your usual flawless and expert analysis. where are we at the end of this very long day? are we at the end of this very long da ? ~ . are we at the end of this very long da ? . ., ., are we at the end of this very long da? ., ., ., day? we have a conservative government _ day? we have a conservative government that _ day? we have a conservative government that a _ day? we have a conservative government that a party - day? we have a conservative government that a party thatj day? we have a conservative - government that a party that has beenin government that a party that has been in office for 18 months in this

term and been in office since 2010, they find themselves in a strong position, clearly ahead with the english local elections outside of london. certainly a success. we have seen the labour party in wales do certainly better than we were expecting, probably in the end may well end up with 30 seats and that may mean that they, if the liberal democrats do pick up some seats, that they will be ale to engineer a majority that way or by persuading one of the opposition to become presiding officer. labour may find itself not having to do a deal with plight, —— plight comrie —— plaid cymru. unless the dust pass towards

a snp majority is possible. irrespective of what they get majority are not, the outcome does really integrate that scotland is now very much divided country and it looks to be that probably 49% of people who voted for one of the pro—independence parties, on the constituency ballots and media around half of the less. that is basically what the opinion polls in scotland are telling us. more than half want to leave the uk and half wish to spay to stay. what is also clear is that this issue really matters to voters. the union has spent most of his campaign saying the constitutional question may not be on the agenda and voters have had a high level of turnout, emulating or echoing the high turnout in the

referendum in 2014. the unionists of have managed to perhaps convince snp voters not to... taste have managed to perhaps convince snp voters not to- - -— voters not to... we will talk again tomorrow — voters not to... we will talk again tomorrow when _ voters not to... we will talk again tomorrow when we _ voters not to... we will talk again tomorrow when we get _ voters not to... we will talk again tomorrow when we get more - voters not to... we will talk again i tomorrow when we get more results in. thank you very much. kirsty, i know you still have some work to do tonight, which i have to say i do not envy you for. just tonight, which i have to say i do not envy you for.— not envy you for. just a final thou~ht not envy you for. just a final thought before _ not envy you for. just a final thought before we - not envy you for. just a final thought before we say - not envy you for. just a final thought before we say good | not envy you for. just a final- thought before we say good night. i think that _ thought before we say good night. i think that the final thought is there — think that the final thought is there is— think that the final thought is there is so much unfold tomorrow. each _ there is so much unfold tomorrow. each of— there is so much unfold tomorrow. each of these different areas in the local elections, the mayoral election. _ local elections, the mayoral election, london's election and in scotland — election, london's election and in scotland but we will have more tonight — scotland but we will have more tonight on newsnight. on bbc two at a quarter— tonight on newsnight. on bbc two at a quarter to tonight on newsnight. on bbc two at a quarterto11. we tonight on newsnight. on bbc two at a quarter to 1t— a quarter to 11. we look forward to newsnight- _ a quarter to 11. we look forward to newsnight. rita, _ a quarter to 11. we look forward to newsnight. rita, a _ a quarter to 11. we look forward to newsnight. rita, a final— a quarter to 11. we look forward to newsnight. rita, a final thought i newsnight. rita, a final thought from you? newsnight. rita, a finalthought from ou? . ., , , newsnight. rita, a finalthought from ou? . ., ,y ., , newsnight. rita, a finalthought from ou? ,y . from you? echoing kirsty, really. we started off with _ from you? echoing kirsty, really. we started off with seven _ from you? echoing kirsty, really. we started off with seven sets _ from you? echoing kirsty, really. we started off with seven sets of - started off with seven sets of elections and we still have the one

going. we do have —— ongoing and we don't have any decided yet. thank ou ve don't have any decided yet. thank you very much- — don't have any decided yet. thank you very much. thank— don't have any decided yet. thank you very much. thank you - don't have any decided yet. thank you very much. thank you for - you very much. thank you for watching, it has been a long day but we have had some memorable events. kirsty will be back a little later, she deserves a medal. 115 tomorrow on bbc one and the news channel as we have more results coming in, england, scotland and wales. we will see them. from kirsty and from me and from rita, it is thank you for watching.

tonight at ten — major gains tonight at ten — major gains for the conservatives for the conservatives in england as labour's leader in england as labour's leader admits his party's lost admits his party's lost the trust of working people. the trust of working people.

the tories win the hartlepool the tories win the hartlepool by—election — a labour seat by—election — a labour seat for more than six decades. borisjohnson is there to celebrate with his new mp. if there's a lesson out of this whole election, the whole election campaign across the uk, it's that the public want politicians to get on with focusing on their needs and their priorities. a shattering day for labour in england as sir keir starmer says he takes full responsibility for the result and forfixing things. very often, we've been talking to ourselves instead of to the country, and we've lost the trust of working people particularly in places like hartlepool. i intend to do whatever is necessary to fix that.