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over the whole year. now on bbc news, dateline london. hello, welcome to the programme which brings together leading uk commentators, journalists born overseas who apply their trade in the uk, along with bbc specialists, dateline london. british labour funded specialists, dateline london. british labourfunded in part by the unions, appears to be in trouble this weekend. it is a different sort of union, that of the nations of the uk, also under threat. the uk is basking in the success of its
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vaccination programmes opposite time to share its more —— good fortune more lightly? and shedding more light than heat, to veterans of the newspaper trade. at american by birth, janet daley, has lived in the uk since the 1960s. her politics shifted from labour to conservatives. back in the 80s, a columnist —— foley —— polly toynbee has supported labour except for a period in the 80s when she hoped to break the mould of british politics. and with me, biggzy�*s chief environment correspondent justin rollout. —— the bbc�*s chief environment correspondence. the latest brick to be broken is what was known as the red wall. constituencies who led the most would protect the labour party from being swept away altogether. a conservative mp was elected for the first time since 1959. when the tories
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started smashing labour's brad wall at the last general election —— red wall, it was put on labour's then leader jeremy corbyn and en brexit. this week, janet, i wonder if it is a case of borisjohnson? certainly by definition. it is not about brexit or it is not all about brexit except for in the most symbolic totemic sense. it is not all keir starmer�*s fault either. you might be surprised to hear me say that. brexit became the issue which made it clear to the traditional working class northern voters that their party held them in contempt. if you describe everybody who voted for brexit as a stupid bigot, not many people are going to vote for you who voted leave. keir starmer�*s problem is notjust the kind of local
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problem that it is often described as, which is to say a metropolitan london based click has taken over the party, fails to understand working—class voters, that is all true but that is just the tip of the iceberg. the real problem for labour is that it is a party that was created during the industrial revolution as a consequence of the industrial revolution, to speak for the industrial and we are now in a post—industrial age where there isn't any industrial proletariat anymore, so who does labour speak for? proletariat anymore, so who does labour speakfor? and one of the transitory decisions, perhaps, that they have made, is to go for an american—style identity politics, and that has been absolutely destructive of their relationship with their traditional working class voters who see them now not even as the nice people as opposed to that nasty tory people, they now see them as running a kind of vindictive
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cult, the cultural crisis. they see them as leading as indeed give historical vendetta against their own country and their own history which completely alienates them from these sort of voters. and i'm afraid that there isn't much sense that the westminster based labour party is even, has even any inkling of understanding these people. that there is a sense in these communities that they are actively disliked by most of the people who constitute the labour leadership, even the jeremy corbyn marxist wing, that this is essentially a failure of understanding of what these communities are like and what they value.— and what they value. polly toynbee. _ and what they value. polly toynbee. is _ and what they value. polly toynbee, is your - and what they value. polly toynbee, is your analysis | and what they value. polly i toynbee, is your analysis as bleak as janet's for the labour party? it bleak as janet's for the labour pa ? , , , , .,~ party? it is pretty bleak. toda , party? it is pretty bleak. today. it _ party? it is pretty bleak. today, it seems - party? it is pretty bleak. today, it seems as - party? it is pretty bleak. today, it seems as if- party? it is pretty bleak. today, it seems as if a l today, it seems as if a sinkhole _ today, it seems as if a sinkhole is under —— has opened
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up. sinkhole is under —— has opened up it_ sinkhole is under —— has opened up it has— sinkhole is under —— has opened up. it has been thinking for awhile _ up. it has been thinking for awhile. certainly, the brexit vote — awhile. certainly, the brexit vote was_ awhile. certainly, the brexit vote was the gut punch to labour support and to labour's position — labour support and to labour's position. where everything has become — position. where everything has become topsy—turvy, we now have a situation — become topsy—turvy, we now have a situation where i think by the — a situation where i think by the time _ a situation where i think by the time you have added up all the time you have added up all the votes — the time you have added up all the votes of this extensive election, more abc one voters will be — election, more abc one voters will be voting labour and morsi 2de, _ will be voting labour and morsi zde, ih — will be voting labour and morsi 2de, in words, traditional working _ 2de, in words, traditional working class, manual classes, will be — working class, manual classes, will be working yeah voting conservative. everything is upside _ conservative. everything is upside down. of course there is lots of— upside down. of course there is lots of conservative voters in the shires, too. a party called labour— the shires, too. a party called labour ho _ the shires, too. a party called labour no longer has, asjanet was _ labour no longer has, asjanet was saying, that old industrial base _ was saying, that old industrial base any longer. everything has changed. — base any longer. everything has changed, and labour is going to find it— changed, and labour is going to find it very— changed, and labour is going to find it very difficult to find itself _ find it very difficult to find itself a _ find it very difficult to find itself a new identity. but it is almost as if it needs to tear— is almost as if it needs to tear everything up, begin all over— tear everything up, begin all over again tear everything up, begin all overagain and tear everything up, begin all over again and maybe have a new name, _ over again and maybe have a new name. i_ over again and maybe have a new name, i don't think keir
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starmer— name, i don't think keir starmer himself did badly. after— starmer himself did badly. after a _ starmer himself did badly. after a very rocky time under jeremy corbyn who attracted very — jeremy corbyn who attracted very little support from traditional labour voters, keir starmer— traditional labour voters, keir starmer was a steady the vote mah — starmer was a steady the vote mah he — starmer was a steady the vote man. he had been a serious man, a very— man. he had been a serious man, a very good — man. he had been a serious man, a very good contrast, many thought, — a very good contrast, many thought, to borisjohnson. iris johhson — thought, to borisjohnson. iris johnson is _ thought, to borisjohnson. iris johnson is wild, erratic, could do and — johnson is wild, erratic, could do and say— johnson is wild, erratic, could do and say anything he wants. a bit of— do and say anything he wants. a bit of a — do and say anything he wants. a bit of a trump character. it seemed _ bit of a trump character. it seemed a _ bit of a trump character. it seemed a very serious labour front— seemed a very serious labour front wrench was a good antidote, but itjust hasn't worked _ antidote, but itjust hasn't worked out —— labour front bench _ worked out —— labour front bench it _ worked out —— labour front bench. it may well be that boris's _ bench. it may well be that boris's wild antics will be even _ boris's wild antics will be even more after this, and coming _ even more after this, and coming to the —— the euphoria, people — coming to the —— the euphoria, people are _ coming to the —— the euphoria, people are feeling good this week, — people are feeling good this week, the news in the vaccines
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are terrific, _ week, the news in the vaccines are terrific, it is terrific for— are terrific, it is terrific for boris _ are terrific, it is terrific for boris. once we are over that, — for boris. once we are over that, we _ for boris. once we are over that, we are likely to find much _ that, we are likely to find much more uncertainty and back to under— much more uncertainty and back to under -- _ to under —— austerity, high unemployment was a bit maybe that labour finds its feet and its role — that labour finds its feet and its role then, but at the moment today, it is pretty bteak~ _ moment today, it is pretty bleak. , . moment today, it is pretty bleak-- can - moment today, it is pretty bleak.- can i - moment today, it is pretty bleak.- can i say - moment today, it is pretty i bleak.- can i say there bleak. janet. can i say there is an additional— bleak. janet. can i say there is an additional dimension . bleak. janet. can i say there | is an additional dimension to this. apart from the loss of the working class vote and the failure to understand of what the working—class voters think and want and value, the collapse of ideological politics. the 20th century was the age of ideology. sometimes with quite hideous consequences. and we now emerging into an age in which the balance is going to have to be found between free—market economics and social democratic values. most voters want both and to some extent, tony blair established that fact. and if you can find a pragmatic solution to that, i mean, he never did, actually, he thought you could have mutually
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contradictory positions at the same time and that act worked for a while, but to get compromises between the social democratic inclinations, the communal considerations that we have seen come to the fore so strongly in this pandemic year, and free—market economics and personal aspiration, that is a tricky balance and will have to be reached afresh every year, every time, every decade, because the idea of politics as theology is gone. and thank god for that. it theology is gone. and thank god for that. , ., ,., ., for that. if you will pardon the pun- _ for that. if you will pardon the pun. i'll— for that. if you will pardon the pun. i'll come - for that. if you will pardon the pun. i'll come back. for that. if you will pardon the pun. i'll come back to| for that. if you will pardon - the pun. i'll come back to you in a sec, polly. ijust want to bring justin in. that kind of politics janet is talking about, is an opening for environmental politicians, is it not? that is about compromise and finding common good, that people, regardless of their ideology, can all sign
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up of their ideology, can all sign up to, which is there is not much point of having politics of any kind if you are sitting on a planet that is going up this fact. on a planet that is going up this fact-— this fact. absolutely. is the insurgent — this fact. absolutely. is the insurgent party _ this fact. absolutely. is the insurgent party at - this fact. absolutely. is the insurgent party at this - insurgent party at this election— insurgent party at this election the _ insurgent party at this election the greens? i insurgent party at this . election the greens? we insurgent party at this - election the greens? we have seen — election the greens? we have seen some _ election the greens? we have seen some gains. _ election the greens? we have seen some gains. this- election the greens? we have seen some gains. this five - election the greens? we have seen some gains. this five ——| seen some gains. this five —— five _ seen some gains. this five —— five seats— seen some gains. this five —— five seats in— seen some gains. this five —— five seats in sheffield - seen some gains. this five —— five seats in sheffield was - seen some gains. this five ——j five seats in sheffield was not pa rticuta rtv _ five seats in sheffield was not particularly up _ five seats in sheffield was not particularly up in _ five seats in sheffield was not particularly up in the - five seats in sheffield was not particularly up in the north . five seats in sheffield was not particularly up in the north inl particularly up in the north in the midlands _ particularly up in the north in the midlands as _ particularly up in the north in the midlands as well. - particularly up in the north in the midlands as well. find i particularly up in the north in the midlands as well. and we don't know — the midlands as well. and we don't know what _ the midlands as well. and we don't know what the - the midlands as well. and we don't know what the result i the midlands as well. and we | don't know what the result will be in scotland where there is an expectation the greens could do pretty well on the list system and they will be another tick in the box for the pro—independence... tick in the box for the pro-independence. .. this is an incremental— pro-independence. .. this is an incremental game. _ pro-independence. .. this is an incremental game. it - pro-independence. .. this is an incremental game. it is quite l incremental game. it is quite interesting, _ incremental game. it is quite interesting, the _ incremental game. it is quite interesting, the green - incremental game. it is quite| interesting, the green party's only— interesting, the green party's ontv mp — interesting, the green party's only mp carolyn _ interesting, the green party's only mp carolyn lucas - interesting, the green party's only mp carolyn lucas said i interesting, the green party's. only mp carolyn lucas said this proves— only mp carolyn lucas said this proves that _ only mp carolyn lucas said this proves that the _ only mp carolyn lucas said this proves that the greens - only mp carolyn lucas said this proves that the greens can - proves that the greens can perform _ proves that the greens can perform outside _ proves that the greens can perform outside of- proves that the greens canl perform outside of brighton proves that the greens can - perform outside of brighton and their— perform outside of brighton and their traditional— perform outside of brighton and their traditional heartland. - perform outside of brighton and their traditional heartland. it - their traditional heartland. it gives— their traditional heartland. it gives them _ their traditional heartland. it gives them a _ their traditional heartland. it gives them a reach - their traditional heartland. it gives them a reach across i their traditional heartland. iti gives them a reach across the countrv — gives them a reach across the countrv but _ gives them a reach across the country. but we're _ gives them a reach across the country. but we're not - gives them a reach across the country. but we're not seeing| country. but we're not seeing an insurgent _ country. but we're not seeing an insurgent party— country. but we're not seeing an insurgent party that is- country. but we're not seeing an insurgent party that is on. an insurgent party that is on the border, _ an insurgent party that is on the border, on— an insurgent party that is on the border, on the - an insurgent party that is on the border, on the edge - an insurgent party that is on the border, on the edge of. the border, on the edge of control, which— the border, on the edge of control, which we - the border, on the edge of control, which we are - the border, on the edge of. control, which we are seeing, verv— control, which we are seeing, very in— control, which we are seeing, very in germanv _
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control, which we are seeing, very in germany. the - control, which we are seeing, very in germany. the leader. control, which we are seeing, i very in germany. the leader of the greens— very in germany. the leader of the greens in— very in germany. the leader of the greens in germany- very in germany. the leader of the greens in germany who . very in germany. the leader of the greens in germany who isi very in germany. the leader ofi the greens in germany who is a trampoline _ the greens in germany who is a trampoline is, _ the greens in germany who is a trampoline is, a— the greens in germany who is a trampoline is, a 40—year—old, i trampoline is, a 40—year—old, wonderful, _ trampoline is, a 40—year—old, wonderful, glamorous, - wonderful, glamorous, charismatic— wonderful, glamorous, charismatic character, i wonderful, glamorous, . charismatic character, up against _ charismatic character, up against the _ charismatic character, up against the leader- charismatic character, up against the leader who i charismatic character, up against the leader who isj against the leader who is chosen— against the leader who is chosen by— against the leader who is chosen by the _ against the leader who is chosen by the coalition, i against the leader who is . chosen by the coalition, part of the — chosen by the coalition, part of the cdu. _ chosen by the coalition, part of the cdu, angela - chosen by the coalition, part of the cdu, angela merkel'sj of the cdu, angela merkel's partv, — of the cdu, angela merkel's party, he _ of the cdu, angela merkel's party. he is _ of the cdu, angela merkel's party. he is a _ of the cdu, angela merkel's party, he is a middle—aged,| party, he is a middle—aged, nothing _ party, he is a middle—aged, nothing wrong _ party, he is a middle—aged, nothing wrong with - party, he is a middle—aged, - nothing wrong with middle—aged white _ nothing wrong with middle—aged white blokes, _ nothing wrong with middle—aged white blokes, i'm— nothing wrong with middle—aged white blokes, i'm one _ nothing wrong with middle—aged white blokes, i'm one of- nothing wrong with middle—aged white blokes, i'm one of them, i white blokes, i'm one of them, but he — white blokes, i'm one of them, but he is — white blokes, i'm one of them, but he is an— white blokes, i'm one of them, but he is an un— _ white blokes, i'm one of them, but he is an un— charismatic, . but he is an un— charismatic, vou _ but he is an un— charismatic, you know. _ but he is an un— charismatic, you know. up _ but he is an un— charismatic, you know, up against - but he is an un— charismatic, you know, up against this - you know, up against this younger— you know, up against this younger figure _ you know, up against this younger figure with - you know, up against this younger figure with a - you know, up against this younger figure with a real chance _ younger figure with a real chance of— younger figure with a real chance of winning - younger figure with a real chance of winning the - chance of winning the leadership— chance of winning the leadership in- chance of winning the i leadership in germany. chance of winning the _ leadership in germany. imagine a green — leadership in germany. imagine a green leader— leadership in germany. imagine a green leader in— leadership in germany. imagine a green leader in germany, - a green leader in germany, imagine— a green leader in germany, imagine how— a green leader in germany, imagine how that _ a green leader in germany, imagine how that would - imagine how that would transform _ transform green politics. much more ambitious, _ transform green politics. much more ambitious, they- more ambitious, they take carbon cutting _ more ambitious, they take carbon cutting targets - carbon cutting targets much stricter, cut away the j remaining coal plants stricter, cut away the . remaining coal plants in germany, _ remaining coal plants in germany, so _ germany, trans remaining coal plants in germany, trans —— - remaining coal plants in germany, trans —— it. remaining coal plants in i germany, trans —— it could remaining coal plants in - germany, trans —— it could be transformational. _ germany, trans —— it could be transformational. for- germany, trans —— it could be transformational. for green. transformational. for green parties _ transformational. for green parties to— transformational. for green parties to make _ transformational. for green parties to make this - transformational. for green parties to make this leap i transformational. for green. parties to make this leap into the mainstream. _ parties to make this leap into the mainstream.— the mainstream. polly, 'ust with you. i the mainstream. polly, 'ust with you. ii the mainstream. polly, 'ust with you. i suppose i the mainstream. polly, just with you. i suppose there . the mainstream. polly, just i with you. i suppose there are, even among the conservatives, who might lament if labour's on
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such a serious can climb because it is along with the conservative party, a party that has until been —— that has at least until now been wanting the uk as a group of nations. could that we can the argument, if it comes to it, on scottish independence? if if it comes to it, on scottish independence?— independence? if the nationalists - independence? if the nationalists in - independence? if the i nationalists in scotland, independence? if the - nationalists in scotland, the smp, _ nationalists in scotland, the smp, have a majority and they have _ smp, have a majority and they have a — smp, have a majority and they have a majority for breaking away, — have a majority for breaking away, that will be very much because _ away, that will be very much because of the added antithesis of chris— because of the added antithesis of chrisjohnson in because of the added antithesis of chris johnson in scotland because of the added antithesis of chrisjohnson in scotland —— snl _ of chrisjohnson in scotland —— snl he — of chrisjohnson in scotland —— snl he is— of chrisjohnson in scotland —— snl. he is so disliked that during his whole campaign, borisjohnson, the uk prime minister. _ borisjohnson, the uk prime minister, has not dared step foot— minister, has not dared step foot in— minister, has not dared step foot in scotland because they detest — foot in scotland because they detest him so much. it may well be that— detest him so much. it may well be that he — detest him so much. it may well be that he will be responsible for helping to propel scotland out of — for helping to propel scotland out of the united kingdom. when things— out of the united kingdom. when things start to break up in that— things start to break up in that way, everything becomes much — that way, everything becomes much more uncertain. i think all political parties will build _ all political parties will build topic may be the case that— build topic may be the case that the _ build topic may be the case that the conservatives within themselves will find their own
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opposition because that often happens, if you have one hyper dominant— happens, if you have one hyper dominant party then its own factions— dominant party then its own factions begin to provide the opposition, which they have done — opposition, which they have done quite a bit in the past. it done quite a bit in the past. it will— done quite a bit in the past. it will be _ done quite a bit in the past. it will be interesting to see if that— it will be interesting to see if that what happens. we are a democracy. we have to have an opposition, one way or another, whether— opposition, one way or another, whether it — opposition, one way or another, whether it is labour refunding itself, — whether it is labour refunding itself, may be an aggressive attiance _ itself, may be an aggressive alliance with other parties. there has to be a voice against and over— there has to be a voice against and over dominant party. after all, and over dominant party. after all. under— and over dominant party. after all, underthe and over dominant party. after all, under the queen's rain, the — all, under the queen's rain, the conservatives have been in power — the conservatives have been in power more than twice as often as labour _ power more than twice as often as labour. this is a profoundly conservative country, occasionally punctuated by the invasion— occasionally punctuated by the invasion of a labour government but not — invasion of a labour government but not for— invasion of a labour government but not for long.— but not for long. janet, very briefly if— but not for long. janet, very briefly if you _ but not for long. janet, very briefly if you would. - but not for long. janet, very briefly if you would. i - but not for long. janet, very briefly if you would. i want i but not for long. janet, very. briefly if you would. i want to take a point _ briefly if you would. i want to take a point about _ briefly if you would. i want to take a point about the - briefly if you would. i want to take a point about the green | take a point about the green developments. i'm afraid i have to revert to the analysis i made a moment ago because there are two versions of green.
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there is the anticapitalist version of green which is the version of green which is the version we have heard most from over the last decade or so, but there is also an emerging prodevelopment, i mean, boris johnson is talking now about using green infrastructure to develop the economies of these deprived areas, of these depressed areas. so there is a kind of cooperative capitalist with capitalism branch of greenery, and it will have to sort itself out politically, exactly what it represents was not i think the anticapitalist strand is really counter—productive because of the most part people now do except free—market economics, even people who used to vote labour. so i think the developing green energy is a form of infrastructure. joe biden is doing this, too, actually, infrastructure development. so i think there is a political divide even within the green movement. we will come back to the environment a little later in the programme will. thanks for that, for now. they may, as
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polly was indicating, be a vaccine balance and some of these results. we will know more by the end of the weekend but the rollout is widely seen as a success with the people in their early 40s now getting the jab. all of us have received at least one dose of a vaccine against the covid—19 virus. vaccine against the covid—19 virus. the british government spoke this week of acquiring doses to tabout people's protection in the autumn. joe biden equally anxious to vaccinate his citizens, is pressing day for a patent waiver, so vaccine manufacture can be accelerated here. and indeed around the world. but ollie, i am wondering, if patents is really the essence of the problem here? —— polly. it is certainly part of it. i don't think any democracy can very easily give away vaccines to other countries until it has thoroughly vaccinated its own population. we're going to reach that soon and i hope we're going to continue manufacture more and more, but help other countries too as well. it is a little bit sad
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that you have america, the great bastion of capitalism, saying "we're going to abandon patterns and let other countries have all of the they need to develop their own vaccine manufacturing "—— patents. and here we are in britain, and europe also sadly reluctant, as if preserving big pharma is more important than the lives of people in india and everywhere else. unless we vaccinate everywhere particularly the places that are now under such a poorly attacked by this virus, it will come back to bite us, it will come back to bite us, it will come back to bite us, it will come back in a variant form, the whole world has to be vaccinated and we have to get behind everywhere weekend. we could compensate big pharma letting go of their patents, there is nothing to stop government doing that. one way or another it has to be got out there as fast as possible. janet, you were making pre— much that point the last time you when i spoke on this
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programme a few months ago, that of course we are all in this together. in terms of the practicality, is it possible government ministers could turn around to voters in britain and say, you will want to travel, is a reasonable argument, the chances of you being able to travel is dependent on other countries getting the vaccine so we're going to give up a little bit of our benefit to increase the chances of everybody benefit.- increase the chances of everybody benefit. you mean . ive everybody benefit. you mean rive u- everybody benefit. you mean give up a _ everybody benefit. you mean give up a bit _ everybody benefit. you mean give up a bit of _ everybody benefit. you mean give up a bit of our _ everybody benefit. you mean give up a bit of our vaccine? l give up a bit of our vaccine? you — give up a bit of our vaccine? you mean _ give up a bit of our vaccine? you mean the boosted down the line? i you mean the boosted down the line? . , ., ., line? i am entirely in favour of giving — line? i am entirely in favour of giving access _ line? i am entirely in favour of giving access vaccines i line? i am entirely in favour. of giving access vaccines that are sitting in the cupboard as it were — are sitting in the cupboard as it were to— are sitting in the cupboard as it were to developing countries that need it, poorer countries. but the — that need it, poorer countries. but the patient question is very— but the patient question is very serious. we mustn't forget, — very serious. we mustn't forget, i_ very serious. we mustn't forget, i am no fan of big pharma, it is one of the few remaining _ pharma, it is one of the few remaining prejudices of my markist— remaining prejudices of my marxist youth, but it was big pharma _ marxist youth, but it was big pharma that got us out of this terrible — pharma that got us out of this terrible crisis, they were the ones — terrible crisis, they were the ones who— terrible crisis, they were the ones who discovered, through intensive _ ones who discovered, through intensive work and quite miraculous series of discoveries, the way out of
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this — discoveries, the way out of this and _ discoveries, the way out of this. and they did that because they— this. and they did that because they earn— this. and they did that because they earn a lot of money and they— they earn a lot of money and they can _ they earn a lot of money and they can put a lot of money into— they can put a lot of money into research. as it happened into research. as it happened in this— into research. as it happened in this country the government actually— in this country the government actually subsidised astrazeneca to develop that oxford vaccine, but in _ to develop that oxford vaccine, but in most of those circumstances, it was done by the pharmaceutical companies themselves, with the vast wealth— themselves, with the vast wealth that they gain from their— wealth that they gain from their profits. if you take away their profits. if you take away the incentive for pharmaceutical companies to survive — pharmaceutical companies to survive and do research, and you take _ survive and do research, and you take away the resources because _ you take away the resources because you remove their patents and their ability to make _ patents and their ability to make profits on these discoveries, you are going to lay up— discoveries, you are going to lay up problems for the future. what _ lay up problems for the future. what pharmaceutical company is going _ what pharmaceutical company is going to — what pharmaceutical company is going to invest enormous amounts of money and intensive research — amounts of money and intensive research and labour to make the discoveries that are saving our lives _ discoveries that are saving our lives now. _ discoveries that are saving our lives now, if it knows that it's — lives now, if it knows that it's patent can be taken away as a — it's patent can be taken away as a political gesture? i don't as a political gesture? idon't think— as a political gesture? i don't think that _ as a political gesture? i don't think that is the way to go. we could always —
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think that is the way to go. - could always compensate those companies, it doesn't stop government buying the patents. when we are in this kind of global emergency, what we have discovered, which has been exciting, is that anything can be done, we can borrow any amount of money, you can furlough people, you can support businesses that would otherwise collapse, and of course we can deal with the cash. (crosstalk). let me bring injustin at this point. i let me bring in justin at this oint. ~ , point. i think there is potentially _ point. i think there is potentially a - point. i think there is potentially a more i potentially a more optimistic way to— potentially a more optimistic way to look— potentially a more optimistic way to look at _ potentially a more optimistic way to look at this. - potentially a more optimistic way to look at this. we - potentially a more optimistic way to look at this. we have | potentially a more optimistic. way to look at this. we have a greater— way to look at this. we have a greater number— way to look at this. we have a greater number of— way to look at this. we have a greater number of effective i greater number of effective vaccines _ greater number of effective vaccines than _ greater number of effective vaccines than we _ greater number of effective vaccines than we ever - greater number of effective i vaccines than we ever thought possible. _ vaccines than we ever thought possible. i_ vaccines than we ever thought possible, ithink— vaccines than we ever thought possible, i think as _ vaccines than we ever thought possible, i think as polly- possible, i think as polly says. _ possible, i think as polly says. of— possible, i think as polly says, of course - possible, i think as polly| says, of course countries possible, i think as polly- says, of course countries are going — says, of course countries are going to _ says, of course countries are going to vaccinate _ says, of course countries are going to vaccinate their- going to vaccinate their populations _ going to vaccinate their populations first, - going to vaccinate their populations first, that. going to vaccinate theirl populations first, that is going to vaccinate their- populations first, that is what you expect _ populations first, that is what you expect and _ populations first, that is what you expect and what - populations first, that is what you expect and what you - populations first, that is what| you expect and what you want because — you expect and what you want because we _ you expect and what you want because we need _ you expect and what you want because we need people - you expect and what you want because we need people to i you expect and what you want| because we need people to be vaccinated _ because we need people to be vaccinated and _ because we need people to be vaccinated and that _ because we need people to be vaccinated and that is - because we need people to be vaccinated and that is where l vaccinated and that is where the effective _ vaccinated and that is where the effective vaccinations i vaccinated and that is wherel the effective vaccinations will happen. _ the effective vaccinations will happen. but _ the effective vaccinations will happen, but pretty— the effective vaccinations will happen, but pretty soon, - the effective vaccinations will happen, but pretty soon, we| happen, but pretty soon, we have — happen, but pretty soon, we have seen— happen, but pretty soon, we have seen around _ happen, but pretty soon, we have seen around the - happen, but pretty soon, we have seen around the world, canada — have seen around the world, canada and _ have seen around the world, canada and america - have seen around the world, canada and america alreadyl canada and america already building _ canada and america already building up— canada and america already building up stockpiles - canada and america already building up stockpiles of- canada and america already i building up stockpiles of these vaccines. _ building up stockpiles of these vaccines, vaccines _ building up stockpiles of these vaccines, vaccines have - building up stockpiles of these vaccines, vaccines have a - building up stockpiles of these vaccines, vaccines have a usel vaccines, vaccines have a use by date. _ vaccines, vaccines have a use by date. they— vaccines, vaccines have a use by date, they will— vaccines, vaccines have a use by date, they will have - vaccines, vaccines have a use by date, they will have to - vaccines, vaccines have a use by date, they will have to getj by date, they will have to get rid of — by date, they will have to get rid of these _ by date, they will have to get rid of these vaccines - by date, they will have to get rid of these vaccines and - by date, they will have to get rid of these vaccines and thei rid of these vaccines and the best— rid of these vaccines and the best way— rid of these vaccines and the best way to _ rid of these vaccines and the best way to get _ rid of these vaccines and the best way to get rid - rid of these vaccines and the best way to get rid of - rid of these vaccines and the best way to get rid of them. rid of these vaccines and thel best way to get rid of them is
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to give — best way to get rid of them is to give them _ best way to get rid of them is| to give them to countries that need them. a huge amount of international credibility - need them. a huge amount of international credibility to - need them. a huge amount of international credibility to be. international credibility to be had by— international credibility to be had by giving _ international credibility to be had by giving away _ international credibility to be had by giving away vaccines, | international credibility to be i had by giving away vaccines, so potentially _ had by giving away vaccines, so potentially we _ had by giving away vaccines, so potentially we could... - had by giving away vaccines, so potentially we could... that- had by giving away vaccines, so potentially we could. . .- potentially we could... that is vaccine diplomacy. _ potentially we could... that is vaccine diplomacy. exactly. i vaccine diplomacy. exactly. potentially _ vaccine diplomacy. exactly. potentially we _ vaccine diplomacy. exactly. potentially we could - vaccine diplomacy. exactly. potentially we could see i vaccine diplomacy. exactly. . potentially we could see this turning — potentially we could see this turning around _ potentially we could see this turning around rather- potentially we could see this turning around rather fasterl turning around rather faster perhaps _ turning around rather faster perhaps than _ turning around rather faster perhaps than it _ turning around rather faster perhaps than it look - turning around rather faster perhaps than it look like - turning around rather faster perhaps than it look like ati perhaps than it look like at the moment. _ perhaps than it look like at the moment. i— perhaps than it look like at the moment.— perhaps than it look like at the moment. i think there is one risk in — the moment. i think there is one risk in giving _ the moment. i think there is one risk in giving away - the moment. i think there is one risk in giving away the i one risk in giving away the vaccines, although i entirely approve of that idea, and that is that many of the poorer countries, i am sad to say, have corrupt governments and is going to take notjust giving the stuff away, notjust delivering it in crates, but overseeing the distribution of it to make sure that it is distributed properly and fairly, and not simply brought by the richest people and most influential people in a corrupt society. influential people in a corrupt socie . ., . influential people in a corrupt socie . ., , society. now the clash between france and _ society. now the clash between france and the uk for fishing i france and the uk for fishing rights this week is a reminder of perhaps the shape of things to come, that it could in future be conflicts over resources including water and the air we breathe. they could be the things we end up fighting over. i'm betting
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climate change depends on countries not playing politics. distracted by covid and election politics we may have been but there have been a lot happening in this year of big climate decisions. justin, quite a few reports of the past few weeks that give us a unique insight into the battleground that will have to be confronted come the end of the year when the countries need to agree the enforcement of the paris agreement?— enforcement of the paris agreement? enforcement of the paris aureement? , ., , , ., agreement? obviously we have had a transformation _ agreement? obviously we have had a transformation in - agreement? obviously we have had a transformation in the - had a transformation in the international— had a transformation in the international politics - had a transformation in the international politics of - international politics of climate _ climate withjoe biden's administration. - climate withjoe biden's administration. we - climate withjoe biden's administration. we saw| administration. we saw right on the first day of his _ the first day of his administration - the first day of his administration he| the first day of his _ administration he announced he was going — administration he announced he was going to _ administration he announced he was going to have _ administration he announced he was going to have this - was going to have this international- was going to have this| international meeting, was going to have this - international meeting, big emitters _ international meeting, big emitters would _ international meeting, big emitters would come - international meeting, big - emitters would come together and talk— emitters would come together and talk about _ emitters would come together and talk about climate, - emitters would come together and talk about climate, we - emitters would come togetherl and talk about climate, we saw ambitious _ and talk about climate, we saw ambitious new— and talk about climate, we saw ambitious new targets - and talk about climate, we saw ambitious new targets from - ambitious new targets from america. _ ambitious new targets from america, britain, _ ambitious new targets from america, britain, canada, i america, britain, canada, relatively— america, britain, canada, relatively ambitious- america, britain, canada, relatively ambitious from i relatively ambitious from canada. _ relatively ambitious from canada, not _ relatively ambitious from canada, not massive, - canada, not massive, but we did see some, and then there is - see some, and then there is an organisation called _ organisation called climate tracker which estimates the impact these _ tracker which estimates the impact these ambitions - tracker which estimates the impact these ambitions will| impact these ambitions will have — impact these ambitions will have on— impact these ambitions will have on the _ impact these ambitions will have on the actual - impact these ambitions will have on the actual climate, j have on the actual climate, they— have on the actual climate, they say— have on the actual climate, they say collected - have on the actual climate, they say collected togetherj they say collected together these — they say collected together these new _ they say collected together these new ambitions - they say collected together l these new ambitions reduces they say collected together - these new ambitions reduces the expected —
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these new ambitions reduces the expected temperature _ these new ambitions reduces the expected temperature rise - these new ambitions reduces the expected temperature rise by. expected temperature rise by 0.2 expected temperature rise by 0~2 celsius _ expected temperature rise by 0.2 celsius and _ expected temperature rise by 0.2 celsius and these - expected temperature rise by 0.2 celsius and these are - 0.2 celsius and these are saying _ 0.2 celsius and these are saying we _ 0.2 celsius and these are saying we are _ 0.2 celsius and these are saying we are still - 0.2 celsius and these are saying we are still on - 0.2 celsius and these are i saying we are still on target by the — saying we are still on target by the end _ saying we are still on target by the end of— saying we are still on target by the end of the _ saying we are still on target by the end of the century. saying we are still on target by the end of the century to saying we are still on target. by the end of the century to be 2.4 centigrade above _ 2.4 centigrade above where we are at— 2.4 centigrade above where we are at now. _ 2.4 centigrade above where we are at now, above _ are at now, above preindustrial. - are at now, above preindustrial. are at now, above reindustrial. ~ . , ., preindustrial. which is not sustainable. _ preindustrial. which is not sustainable. exactly. - preindustrial. which is not sustainable. exactly. and| preindustrial. which is not - sustainable. exactly. and that is if people — sustainable. exactly. and that is if people live _ sustainable. exactly. and that is if people live up _ sustainable. exactly. and that is if people live up to - sustainable. exactly. and that is if people live up to the - is if people live up to the commitments— is if people live up to the commitments they- is if people live up to the commitments they have i is if people live up to the - commitments they have made, is if people live up to the _ commitments they have made, and there _ commitments they have made, and there is— commitments they have made, and there is a _ commitments they have made, and there is a huge _ commitments they have made, and there is a huge credibility— commitments they have made, and there is a huge credibility gap - there is a huge credibility gap with— there is a huge credibility gap with these _ there is a huge credibility gap with these promises. - there is a huge credibility gap with these promises. so - there is a huge credibility gap with these promises. so veryl with these promises. so very depressing _ with these promises. so very depressing news. _ with these promises. so very depressing news. we - with these promises. so very depressing news. we saw. with these promises. so very depressing news. we saw at| with these promises. so very. depressing news. we saw at the same _ depressing news. we saw at the same time — depressing news. we saw at the same time for _ depressing news. we saw at the same time for example, - same time for example, president _ same time for example, president bolsonaro - same time for example, president bolsonaro of i same time for example, - president bolsonaro of brazil said "i — president bolsonaro of brazil said "i can _ president bolsonaro of brazil said "i can end _ president bolsonaro of brazil said "i can end illegal- said "i can end illegal deforestation, - said "i can end illegal deforestation, you i said "i can end illegal. deforestation, you have said "i can end illegal- deforestation, you have to give me. _ deforestation, you have to give me. it — deforestation, you have to give me. it will— deforestation, you have to give me, it will cost _ deforestation, you have to give me, it will cost you _ deforestation, you have to give me, it will cost you £1- deforestation, you have to give me, it will cost you £1 billion i me, it will cost you £1 billion a year— me, it will cost you £1 billion a year but _ me, it will cost you £1 billion a year but i _ me, it will cost you £1 billion a year but i can— me, it will cost you £1 billion a year but i can do— me, it will cost you £1 billion a year but i can do it". - me, it will cost you £1 billion a year but i can do it". he i a year but i can do it". he went— a year but i can do it". he went away— a year but i can do it". he went away the _ a year but i can do it". he went away the very - a year but i can do it". he went away the very next i a year but i can do it". he - went away the very next week, he cut — went away the very next week, he cut the _ went away the very next week, he cut the funding _ went away the very next week, he cut the funding for- went away the very next week, he cut the funding for the - he cut the funding for the environmental— he cut the funding for the environmental police - he cut the funding for the environmental police to l he cut the funding for the l environmental police to the lowest _ environmental police to the lowest level _ environmental police to the lowest level it _ environmental police to the lowest level it had - environmental police to the lowest level it had ever- environmental police to the i lowest level it had ever been. we saw — lowest level it had ever been. we saw today— lowest level it had ever been. we saw today there _ lowest level it had ever been. we saw today there were - lowest level it had ever been. i we saw today there were figures announced — we saw today there were figures announced by— we saw today there were figures announced by the _ we saw today there were figures announced by the brazilian - announced by the brazilian government— announced by the brazilian government itself, - announced by the brazilian government itself, by- announced by the brazilian government itself, by a . government itself, by a satellite _ government itself, by a satellite monitoring - satellite monitoring organisation, - satellite monitoring organisation, the i satellite monitoring - organisation, the highest satellite monitoring _ organisation, the highest level of deforestation— organisation, the highest level of deforestation in _ organisation, the highest level of deforestation in any- organisation, the highest level of deforestation in any april i of deforestation in any april in history. _ of deforestation in any april in history. so— of deforestation in any april in history, so 58,000 - of deforestation in any april i in history, so 58,000 hectares of forest cut back, _
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in history, so 58,000 hectares of forest cut back, 43% - in history, so 58,000 hectares of forest cut back, 43% rise . in history, so 58,000 hectares of forest cut back, 43% rise inl of forest cut back, 43% rise in april last year. —— _ of forest cut back, 43% rise in april last year. —— on- of forest cut back, 43% rise in april last year. —— on april- april last year. —— on april last— april last year. —— on april last year _ april last year. —— on april last year. an _ april last year. —— on april last year. an indication - april last year. —— on april. last year. an indication that 2021— last year. an indication that 2021will— last year. an indication that 2021 will be _ last year. an indication that 2021 will be an _ last year. an indication that 2021 will be an even - last year. an indication that 2021 will be an even bigger| 2021 will be an even bigger deforestation— 2021 will be an even bigger deforestation year- 2021 will be an even bigger deforestation year than - 2021 will be an even biggerl deforestation year than last year — deforestation year than last year and _ deforestation year than last year. and that _ deforestation year than last year. and that is— deforestation year than last year. and that is echoes - deforestation year than last year. and that is echoes ofi deforestation year than last i year. and that is echoes of the fish. _ year. and that is echoes of the fish. what _ year. and that is echoes of the fish, what they— year. and that is echoes of the fish, what they call— year. and that is echoes of the fish, what they call a _ year. and that is echoes of the fish, what they call a tragedy. fish, what they call a tragedy of the — fish, what they call a tragedy of the commons, _ fish, what they call a tragedy of the commons, a - fish, what they call a tragedy of the commons, a race - fish, what they call a tragedy of the commons, a race to i of the commons, a race to exploit _ of the commons, a race to exploit this _ of the commons, a race to exploit this resource - of the commons, a race to exploit this resource and l of the commons, a race to - exploit this resource and yeah, and a _ exploit this resource and yeah, and a measure _ exploit this resource and yeah, and a measure of— exploit this resource and yeah, and a measure of the - exploit this resource and yeah, | and a measure of the challenge ahead _ and a measure of the challenge ahead for— and a measure of the challenge ahead for us— and a measure of the challenge ahead for us all. _ and a measure of the challenge ahead for us all.— ahead for us all. janet, are ou ahead for us all. janet, are you optimistic _ ahead for us all. janet, are you optimistic about - ahead for us all. janet, are you optimistic about what l ahead for us all. janet, are - you optimistic about what might be achieved this year, when you hear things like that, do you think it is almost ten steps forward, five steps back at least? it forward, five steps back at least? ., , ., , least? it goes back to my point about corrupt _ least? it goes back to my point about corrupt governments, i least? it goes back to my point. about corrupt governments, and unless we can guarantee equally enlightened and democratic and responsible and accountable government in every country in the world, it is going to be trying to get a green world policy, global policy, is going to be a challenge. laughs. depends on glasgow, this meeting that the british are posting, we have sort of agreed the rules, it is actually the enforcement and the penalties and thereby hangs a lot? yes.
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and thereby hangs a lot? yes, it is going _ and thereby hangs a lot? yes, it is going to _ and thereby hangs a lot? yes, it is going to be _ and thereby hangs a lot? yes, it is going to be very - it is going to be very difficult indeed. huge sacrifices have to be made by everybody. one of the sacrifices is we will have to deal — sacrifices is we will have to deal with _ sacrifices is we will have to deal with obnoxious governments who are _ deal with obnoxious governments who are doing terrible things and set — who are doing terrible things and set the climate issue on one — and set the climate issue on one side. _ and set the climate issue on one side, as people are talking about— one side, as people are talking about with china for instance, the uighurs are a separate issue. _ the uighurs are a separate issue, we will deal with that separate, so setting climate aside. — separate, so setting climate aside, somebody like bolsonaro, you may— aside, somebody like bolsonaro, you may have to put up with some — you may have to put up with some corruption, you may have to bribe — some corruption, you may have to bribe him, in other countries around the world, you are going — countries around the world, you are going to have to do whatever it takes. a lot of those _ whatever it takes. a lot of those things will be very expensive, very unpalatable, and difficult. so it is not just— and difficult. so it is not just a _ and difficult. so it is not just a question of each of us having — just a question of each of us having to _ just a question of each of us having to do unpalatable things like give — having to do unpalatable things like give up beef, the methane report— like give up beef, the methane report this week suggesting that nobody should be eating beef — that nobody should be eating beef. it is notjust those personal sacrifices that are difficult _ personal sacrifices that are difficult especially in democracies, but actually how diplomacy works, and attaching
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climate — diplomacy works, and attaching climate from other diplomatic aims~ — climate from other diplomatic aims. . . climate from other diplomatic aims. ., , , aims. can i 'ust “ump in their, i don't aims. can ijust “ump in their, i am want — aims. can ijust “ump in their, i don't want to — aims. can ijustjump in their, i don't want to sound - aims. can ijustjump in their, i don't want to sound like - aims. can ijustjump in their, i don't want to sound like an i idon't want to sound like an eternal— i don't want to sound like an eternal optimist _ i don't want to sound like an eternal optimist but - i don't want to sound like an eternal optimist but there i i don't want to sound like ani eternal optimist but there is, at the — eternal optimist but there is, at the moment _ eternal optimist but there is, at the moment we _ eternal optimist but there is, at the moment we have - eternal optimist but there is, at the moment we have got i eternal optimist but there is, i at the moment we have got this triumvirate _ at the moment we have got this triumvirate of— at the moment we have got this triumvirate of america, - at the moment we have got this triumvirate of america, europe i triumvirate of america, europe and china. _ triumvirate of america, europe and china. all— triumvirate of america, europe and china, all talking - triumvirate of america, europe and china, all talking quite - and china, all talking quite seriously— and china, all talking quite seriously about _ and china, all talking quite seriously about cutting - and china, all talking quite - seriously about cutting carbon. there — seriously about cutting carbon. there is — seriously about cutting carbon. there is an _ seriously about cutting carbon. there is an opportunity - seriously about cutting carbon. there is an opportunity for - there is an opportunity for them _ there is an opportunity for them to— there is an opportunity for them to say— there is an opportunity for them to say listen, - there is an opportunity for them to say listen, we - there is an opportunity for them to say listen, we will only— them to say listen, we will only import _ them to say listen, we will only import from - them to say listen, we will only import from you - them to say listen, we will only import from you if- them to say listen, we will| only import from you if you have — only import from you if you have similar— only import from you if you have similar carbon- only import from you if you i have similar carbon standards as us. _ have similar carbon standards as us. there _ have similar carbon standards as us. there is— have similar carbon standards as us, there is a _ have similar carbon standards as us, there is a way- have similar carbon standards as us, there is a way for- have similar carbon standardsj as us, there is a way for them to begin — as us, there is a way for them to begin to— as us, there is a way for them to begin to encourage - as us, there is a way for them to begin to encourage the - as us, there is a way for them | to begin to encourage the rest of the — to begin to encourage the rest of the world _ to begin to encourage the rest of the world to _ to begin to encourage the rest of the world to get _ to begin to encourage the rest of the world to get along - to begin to encourage the rest of the world to get along sidel of the world to get along side with— of the world to get along side with the — of the world to get along side with the carbon _ of the world to get along side with the carbon cutting - of the world to get along side i with the carbon cutting agenda, using _ with the carbon cutting agenda, using their— with the carbon cutting agenda, using their economic— with the carbon cutting agenda, using their economic leverage. i using their economic leverage. if using their economic leverage. if you — using their economic leverage. if you took _ using their economic leverage. if you took the _ using their economic leverage. if you took the three _ using their economic leverage. if you took the three of- using their economic leverage. if you took the three of them i if you took the three of them together. _ if you took the three of them together. we _ if you took the three of them together, we are _ if you took the three of them together, we are talking - if you took the three of them i together, we are talking about more — together, we are talking about more than _ together, we are talking about more than half— together, we are talking about more than half the _ together, we are talking about more than half the world - more than half the world economy _ more than half the world economy. there - more than half the world economy. there is- more than half the world economy. there is a - more than half the world| economy. there is a kind more than half the world i economy. there is a kind of potential— economy. there is a kind of potential therefore - economy. there is a kind of potential therefore a - economy. there is a kind of potential therefore a kind i economy. there is a kind of| potential therefore a kind of stick — potential therefore a kind of stick as— potential therefore a kind of stick as well— potential therefore a kind of stick as well as _ potential therefore a kind of stick as well as a _ potential therefore a kind of stick as well as a carrot - potential therefore a kind of stick as well as a carrot i- stick as well as a carrot i think _ stick as well as a carrot i think. q; :: stick as well as a carrot i think. 5; :: , _, , stick as well as a carrot i think. as , , .~ stick as well as a carrot i think. as , , i] stick as well as a carrot i think. as , , [m think. 30 seconds, janet. i am a bit worried _ think. 30 seconds, janet. i am a bit worried about _ think. 30 seconds, janet. i am a bit worried about polly's - a bit worried about polly's totalitarian vision, you know, i thought the whole point was we were all going to drive to more freedom and more democracy, and if the price of
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a global green policy is that we all have to become as totalitarian as, say, china is today, that doesn't strike me as very palatable. in today, that doesn't strike me as very palatable.— today, that doesn't strike me as very palatable. in that case i better as very palatable. in that case i better get — as very palatable. in that case i better get the _ as very palatable. in that case i better get the last _ as very palatable. in that case i better get the last word - as very palatable. in that case i better get the last word to l i better get the last word to polly. riff i better get the last word to poll . . ., , i better get the last word to poll . _, , ., �* i better get the last word to poll . .., , ., �* ~' polly. of course i don't think that but i — polly. of course i don't think that but i simply _ polly. of course i don't think that but i simply think - polly. of course i don't think that but i simply think in - polly. of course i don't think that but i simply think in ourj that but i simply think in our dealings _ that but i simply think in our dealings with china we have to put climate on one side separate to the criticisms we have — separate to the criticisms we have about the uighurs, it is not about— have about the uighurs, it is not about us becoming totalitarian, it is about being pragmatic, and that is painful. polly— pragmatic, and that is painful. polly toynbee, justin rowlatt, janet daly, thank you for making this programme are very easy one, it is a pleasure to have a 3d and to have you, join us again same time next week, goodbye. —— have the three of you.
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hello again. friday was all about sunshine and showers. the best of the drier weather and sunshine was across western areas of the uk. but across northern and eastern scotland, eastern areas of england, we did have widespread showers, and some of them really pokey with some hail mixed in as well. at the same time, over the last 24 hours, trouble's been brewing out in the atlantic. look at this area of cloud and how it's rapidly developed into what is quite a beautiful looking area of low pressure. however, this area of low pressure is a loitering low pressure system, a particularly slow moving system that's going to be with us for the next five days or so, bringing rain and showers our way. so, an unsettled spell of weather. the rain is beginning to arrive at the moment and will continue to work its way in across parts of england, wales and northern ireland over the next few hours. but as the rain starts falling, the mild air starts moving in, so temperatures 10 degrees by dawn across the south—west. cold with a patchy frost in scotland, but at least there'll be a bright start here. it's in wales where the rain is going to be at its heaviest
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and particularly across the high ground of the brecon beacons. here, through the weekend, we could see over 100 mm of rain, and that could cause some localised flooding issues. after a bright start in scotland, the rain is going to be working in here as we go through the afternoon, but at the same time, the rain should ease off towards south—east england and perhaps northern ireland as well. temperatures higher than they've been for quite a while — 17 degrees or so in london, but it's still cold in scotland. 7 or 8 degrees for many here with that persistent rain, and it'll be windy for many of us as well. indeed, through saturday night, there will be further bursts of rain coming and going, but it will be turning increasingly mild through the night as well. temperatures are staying at around 12 or 13 degrees across england and wales, and a frost free night, something we really haven't seen much of over the last month or so. the low pressure still with us for the second half of the weekend, arguably the better of the two days. it's a day of sunshine and showers, but those showers slightly to merge together to give some lengthier outbreaks of rain across western areas. we do have some showers pushing their way eastwards
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across england from a weak cold front, and that front separates really very mild air across eastern areas. with the fresher atlantic air, we have most parts around 15—17 degrees. that area of the pressure is loitering, no surprise to see rain and showers for most of the days next week as well. that's your weather.
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