witnesses have lived civilian witnesses have lived through _ civilian witnesses have lived through this inquest, especially those _ through this inquest, especially those who have passed away and family— those who have passed away and family members who have passed. thank_ family members who have passed. thank you — family members who have passed. thank you very much on behalf of the murphy— thank you very much on behalf of the murphy family. i call alice harper to speak on behalf of the family. my i call alice harper to speak on behalf of the family. my name is alice harper. — behalf of the family. my name is alice harper, daughter- behalf of the family. my name is alice harper, daughter of - behalf of the family. my name is alice harper, daughter of daniel| alice harper, daughter of daniel taggart — —— teggart. it's so important to our family. — —— teggart. it's so important to our family. it _ —— teggart. it's so important to our family. it meant almost more than we could _ family. it meant almost more than we could put— family. it meant almost more than we could put into words. we always knew our daddy _ could put into words. we always knew our daddy was innocent, and now the world _ our daddy was innocent, and now the world can _ our daddy was innocent, and now the world can know and keep this on record — world can know and keep this on record. after a difficult 18 months

of legal— record. after a difficult 18 months of legal and a full year of reviews, the judge — of legal and a full year of reviews, the judge in the law says our father is innocent — the judge in the law says our father is innocent. a terrible... tragedy of almost — is innocent. a terrible... tragedy of almost 50 years ago. the community that took our daddy from us and _ community that took our daddy from us and left _ community that took our daddy from us and left us a broken family. was not his_ us and left us a broken family. was not his fault — us and left us a broken family. was not his fault. the fault lies with brilish— not his fault. the fault lies with british shoulders who shot him. and innocent _ british shoulders who shot him. and innocent father, a brother, a son in a system _ innocent father, a brother, a son in a system which seemed... this is the truth _ a system which seemed... this is the truth of— a system which seemed... this is the truth of those — a system which seemed... this is the truth of those events. i was 23 when my father, _ truth of those events. i was 23 when my father, danielteggart,

truth of those events. i was 23 when my father, daniel teggart, was murdered. he was 44 and had 13 children. — murdered. he was 44 and had 13 children, four under the age of 11. iwas _ children, four under the age of 11. i was married with one small baby, a three—year—old, my charlie. last time _ three—year—old, my charlie. last time i_ three—year—old, my charlie. last time i saw— three—year—old, my charlie. last time i saw my daddy, he had come to see me _ time i saw my daddy, he had come to see me that— time i saw my daddy, he had come to see me that day. was introduced. my uncle _ see me that day. was introduced. my uncle and _ see me that day. was introduced. my uncle and his — see me that day. was introduced. my uncle and his family lived a few doors _ uncle and his family lived a few doors from the army post, which had been put _ doors from the army post, which had been put through his window that day. been put through his window that day my— been put through his window that day. my daddy wanted me to take my uncle and _ day. my daddy wanted me to take my uncle and his family to the safety of my— uncle and his family to the safety of my home. daddy asked me to cut his hair— of my home. daddy asked me to cut his hair that — of my home. daddy asked me to cut his hair that day, i remember he

wore _ his hair that day, i remember he wore a _ his hair that day, i remember he wore a suit — his hair that day, i remember he wore a suit and a lovely white shirt with yellow— wore a suit and a lovely white shirt with yellow and blue stripes. my daddy— with yellow and blue stripes. my daddy left me to go and have his dinner— daddy left me to go and have his dinner that night, daddy left me to go and have his dinnerthat night, and daddy left me to go and have his dinner that night, and to let my uncle _ dinner that night, and to let my uncle and — dinner that night, and to let my uncle and his family know that they could _ uncle and his family know that they could come — uncle and his family know that they could come and stay with me. i never see my— could come and stay with me. i never see my daddy again. i went to the army— see my daddy again. i went to the army barracks to find out if they had my— army barracks to find out if they had my daddy. the soldiers in the barracks _ had my daddy. the soldiers in the barracks laughed at me. aline had my daddy. the soldiers in the barracks laughed at me. a line from a song _ barracks laughed at me. a line from a song at _ barracks laughed at me. a line from a song at that particular time. i was extremely upset, but we continue to look— was extremely upset, but we continue to look for— was extremely upset, but we continue to look for him. that afternoon, when _ to look for him. that afternoon, when we — to look for him. that afternoon, when we couldn't find him, and he didn't— when we couldn't find him, and he didn't come — when we couldn't find him, and he didn't come home, i went to the army post again _ didn't come home, i went to the army post again and again, a third time. "tell— post again and again, a third time. "tell me _ post again and again, a third time. "tell me if— post again and again, a third time. "tell me if they have my daddy." a

soldier— "tell me if they have my daddy." a soldier shouted at me, "there is an unidentified — soldier shouted at me, "there is an unidentified body in the morgue." my uncle arrived and we went together. we identified my daddy by his curly hair. we identified my daddy by his curly hair his— we identified my daddy by his curly hair. his face was unrecognisable. we were _ hair. his face was unrecognisable. we were asked about the bruising on his body, _ we were asked about the bruising on his body, but we had seen enough. 14 tinres, _ his body, but we had seen enough. 14 tinres, they— his body, but we had seen enough. 14 times, they shot him. unthinkable, the pain— times, they shot him. unthinkable, the pain he — times, they shot him. unthinkable, the pain he must have suffered. what was even _ the pain he must have suffered. what was even worse was the next day, the army— was even worse was the next day, the army declared that my father was a lui'i army declared that my father was a gun nran _ army declared that my father was a gun man. my daddy was no gun man. not only— gun man. my daddy was no gun man. not only did — gun man. my daddy was no gun man. not only did they murder him, they took away— not only did they murder him, they took away and blacken his good name.

my life _ took away and blacken his good name. my life has— took away and blacken his good name. my life has never been the same from that day _ my life has never been the same from that day. our family was shattered. many— that day. our family was shattered. many to _ that day. our family was shattered. many to this day stuff or mental health— many to this day stuff or mental health and other issues —— a stuffer mental— health and other issues —— a stuffer mental health. my mother couldn't turn to— mental health. my mother couldn't turn to her— mental health. my mother couldn't turn to her immediate family, as they— turn to her immediate family, as they lived — turn to her immediate family, as they lived under the division. 0ur they lived under the division. our family— they lived under the division. our family was— they lived under the division. our family was further traumatised when my 15—year—old brother... was murdered _ my 15—year—old brother... was murdered. he had the mentalage my 15—year—old brother... was murdered. he had the mental age of nine _ murdered. he had the mental age of nine he _ murdered. he had the mental age of nine. he was killed to mac years later— nine. he was killed to mac years later in— nine. he was killed to mac years later in 1973. —— two years later. this— later in 1973. —— two years later. this is— later in 1973. —— two years later. this is what— later in 1973. —— two years later. this is what the legacy looks like in our— this is what the legacy looks like in ourfamily. 0ur this is what the legacy looks like

in ourfamily. ourfamily's... no in our family. our family's... no one— in our family. our family's... no one is— in ourfamily. ourfamily's... no one is above— in ourfamily. ourfamily's... no one is above the law. there should be no _ one is above the law. there should be no amnesty for anyone. in 1998, we started — be no amnesty for anyone. in 1998, we started an investigation. the police _ we started an investigation. the police never investigated my daddy's murder _ police never investigated my daddy's murder. that is when i had my second family. _ murder. that is when i had my second family. the _ murder. that is when i had my second family, the ballymurphy massacre. right _ family, the ballymurphy massacre. right through all the work that we've — right through all the work that we've done. for everything we have achieved, _ we've done. for everything we have achieved, we've had to fight the system, — achieved, we've had to fight the system, which is stacked against us. a group— system, which is stacked against us. a group of— system, which is stacked against us. a group of grown—up children who hadn't _ a group of grown—up children who hadn't had — a group of grown—up children who hadn't had time to grieve. this campaign _ hadn't had time to grieve. this campaign got us here today and to our loved — campaign got us here today and to our loved one's death after 50 years — our loved one's death after 50 years. now the truth is known. we have _ years. now the truth is known. we have corrected their lies. my daddy,

daddy— have corrected their lies. my daddy, daddy teggart, was an innocent man and declared innocent. and their medals— and declared innocent. and their medals should be taken because they cheered _ medals should be taken because they cheered for what they'd done in ballymurphy to allow our loved ones. thank— ballymurphy to allow our loved ones. thank you _ ballymurphy to allow our loved ones. thank you very much. thank you. applause — on the 11th of august, 1971, my brother left our home and never came back. the only thing we knew was that the british army were responsible for his death. my brother was murdered, but no one cared. there was no investigation because no one cared. —— no one heard. we lived with unanswered

questions for 15 years. no one cared because ourjohn wasjust questions for 15 years. no one cared because ourjohn was just another 21—year—old catholic from ballymurphy, but our community cared. they have supported us as families and our campaign for truth for all these years. and his family cared. he was my big brother. we would never give up fighting for him. we as a family shared a deep love for one another, and i have carried that love for ourjohn my entire life. john had his whole life ahead of him, but his life was cut short. he never had the chance her choice to marry, to travel and to have children. my brother terry was 18 in august 1971. he was arrested a short distance from wherejohn laid the wounded. he was convicted, a conviction overturned six years ago. my

conviction overturned six years ago. my sister was 14 and i was only eight when ourjohn was murdered. life as we knew it was never the same again. we grew up watching the life from my mummy�*s eyes and my daddy had to stay strong for us, but we could see his pain. there was an emptiness in our home. our sister passed away in 2014, without seeing truth orjustice. rita and i have campaigned for our brothers, it has completely overshadowed our life. it should not have taken 50 years to have an inquest that asked questions that should have been asked back in 1971. neither of my brothers had a gun, neither of my brothers were gunmen. there was no riot. the british act left my family broken. because of the lack of accountability, we never recovered.

no one was held accountable who murdered my brother because state into unity still exists. the one piece of comfort we take away from todayis piece of comfort we take away from today is that the official record has been rectified. john was not a gun man. he was shot in the back. he was... the soldiers lied, gun man. he was shot in the back. he was... the soldiers tied, the papers lied, mikejackson was... the soldiers tied, the papers lied, mike jackson light and the state covered it up. this is clearly not the end of ourjourney. now the laverty family want accountability. applause i call kathleen mcgarry of the dockerty family.— i call kathleen mcgarry of the dockerty family. i call kathleen mcgarry of the

docke famil . ., g . , dockerty family. hello. my name is kathleen. dockerty family. hello. my name is kathleen- my _ dockerty family. hello. my name is kathleen. my brother— dockerty family. hello. my name is kathleen. my brother was - dockerty family. hello. my name is kathleen. my brother was 30 - dockerty family. hello. my name is kathleen. my brother was 30 years j kathleen. my brother was 30 years old when _ kathleen. my brother was 30 years old when he was murdered by british army _ old when he was murdered by british army he _ old when he was murdered by british army. he was married with four children — army. he was married with four children. devastated. his wife never recovered _ children. devastated. his wife never recovered. they said he was a gun man~ _ recovered. they said he was a gun man he _ recovered. they said he was a gun man he was— recovered. they said he was a gun man. he was shot dead the night before _ man. he was shot dead the night before and — man. he was shot dead the night before and his body dumped, all deliberate lies. the soldier who shot— deliberate lies. the soldier who shot him — deliberate lies. the soldier who shot him said he was a gun man and a petrol— shot him said he was a gun man and a petrol bomber, again deliberate lies _ petrol bomber, again deliberate lies. there was no forensic evidence of any— lies. there was no forensic evidence of any sort — lies. there was no forensic evidence of any sort. eddie was checking on my daddy— of any sort. eddie was checking on my daddy and us siblings to see if we were _ my daddy and us siblings to see if we were all ok. that was his only claim _ we were all ok. that was his only claim he — we were all ok. that was his only claim. he came to my house, i left him and— claim. he came to my house, i left him and he— claim. he came to my house, i left him and he talked about the death of father— him and he talked about the death of father mullen and mrs conway. he got very emotional as he spoke. when he

left my— very emotional as he spoke. when he left my father, he called my sister before _ left my father, he called my sister before making his way down the road and on _ before making his way down the road and on his— before making his way down the road and on his way, he had to call to the hospital to deliver a message for teresa — the hospital to deliver a message forteresa. but the hospital to deliver a message for teresa. but he stopped to speak to a man _ for teresa. but he stopped to speak to a man named billy, back to the barricade — to a man named billy, back to the barricade and a soldier left out and shot him _ barricade and a soldier left out and shot him dead. the next thing... all of the _ shot him dead. the next thing... all of the witnesses who came to court testified _ of the witnesses who came to court testified that eddie posed no threat to any— testified that eddie posed no threat to any soldier. i want to thank all those _ to any soldier. i want to thank all those who— to any soldier. i want to thank all those who had the courage to come to court and _ those who had the courage to come to court and gather evidence. i know it was not _ court and gather evidence. i know it was not easy— court and gather evidence. i know it was not easy to do. lawyers gave all of them _ was not easy to do. lawyers gave all of them a _ was not easy to do. lawyers gave all of them a very hard time. his death

devastated — of them a very hard time. his death devastated our family. my mum never recovered _ devastated our family. my mum never recovered. for seven years, we watched — recovered. for seven years, we watched her slowly die in front of us. watched her slowly die in front of us his— watched her slowly die in front of us. his wife mary died nine years later— us. his wife mary died nine years later and — us. his wife mary died nine years later and left the children orphaned. the children had a terrible. _ orphaned. the children had a terrible, hard life. everybody tried their best — terrible, hard life. everybody tried their best. thingsjust didn't work their best. thingsjust didn't work the way— their best. thingsjust didn't work the way it— their best. thingsjust didn't work the way it was planned. their whole life, the way it was planned. their whole life. eddie _ the way it was planned. their whole life, eddie was the life and soul of our family — life, eddie was the life and soul of ourfamily. he life, eddie was the life and soul of our family. he was a character and he loved _ our family. he was a character and he loved everyone of us,. eddie's kids never— he loved everyone of us,. eddie's kids never got to know their father. they were — kids never got to know their father. they were robbed of a beautiful soul and had _ they were robbed of a beautiful soul and had a _ they were robbed of a beautiful soul and had a very difficult life as a result — and had a very difficult life as a result. today, justice has put...

0ur— result. today, justice has put... 0ur eddie — result. today, justice has put... our eddie was an innocent man. i'm 'ust our eddie was an innocent man. i'm just so— our eddie was an innocent man. i'm just so sorry — our eddie was an innocent man. i'm just so sorry that he's taken, it's taken _ just so sorry that he's taken, it's taken so — just so sorry that he's taken, it's taken so long and the agony isjust hard to— taken so long and the agony isjust hard to sink— taken so long and the agony isjust hard to sink in. i would also like to thank— hard to sink in. i would also like to thank all— hard to sink in. i would also like to thank all those people, too many to thank all those people, too many to mention. — to thank all those people, too many to mention, along us on ourjourney to mention, along us on ourjourney to the _ to mention, along us on ourjourney to the truth — to mention, along us on ourjourney to the truth. thank you very much. applause — applause i call on behalf of the court. ourfamily has our family has seen and heard what we always knew. the soldiers in the british government. were lying through their teeth. to cover up the

cold—blooded murder of our loved ones. now the world knows they're innocent. who are asking for amnesty. we live with the fact that our daddy was murdered in cold blood on the streets of ballymurphy. he was picked up by the ones who shot him. instead of bringing them straight to the hospital, which is only a couple of minutes away, they took him to... my daddy was for a couple of days, then mummy had to discover where he was herself. no police came to our door. my daddy was classed as a gun man. because they told the media... the army told

they told the media... the army told the lies... my mother also received hate mail from the lies... my mother also received hate mailfrom my daddy's the lies... my mother also received hate mail from my daddy's workmates because of the lies that were told. it says" may your husband and his subhuman pass roast in hell." that is what my mummy got. soldiers were told that they were above the law. the british government and politicians think that only innocent victims were killed. but today has proved that all our loved ones were innocent and many more innocent victims left behind us. if this new legislation, it will be harderfor them to receive justice. legislation, it will be harderfor them to receivejustice. our verdict today gives all those families that are asking for truth to be told. never give up, never given. my daddy

was a hard—working man who loved his wife and kids and worked very hard to give us everything we wanted. when they murdered my daddy, they stole the heart of our family, our hopes and our dreams. they were shattered on that day in 1971. they left my mummy with seven kids, the oldest being four months old. i'm only sorry it's taken this long. many of our loved ones... —— the youngest. he fought until the day he died forjustice. that they youngest. he fought until the day he died for justice. that they all deserved. thank you. applause

ididn't i didn't bring any notes today. my father left for work on the 10th of august, 1971. my mother he told my mother there had been a bother at ballymurphy, so if it kicked off again, he would probably stay with the priest. and see her the next day. the next morning, my sister was reading the news. in the headline was a man called williejohn mckerr had been shot in ballymurphy and was in the royal hospital. we knew because of the mckerr that it had to because of the mckerr that it had to be our daddy. we were not aware of what all these families had been going through for years. we felt

that we were the only family that had been affected. we didn't hear of anything else that happened, and we hadn't gotten the publicity we had today. we set out, by coincidence, my sister was speaking to someone and we found out anything had happened. the worst when my father being ex—army, ex—british army, wounded in the second world war — he lost his hand in north africa — he was proud of his... he was at military school. he was a catholic. the only thing he belonged to was the british legion. politics weren't spoken about in our house. it was work, school, education, church. i

amjust work, school, education, church. i am just stunned by what i heard has gone on by an army that my father was part of. we entered into this because of his name being tarnished as a gun man. it upset all of us. we've had the verdict today that he was innocent, and that's what we set out to achieve. i can only thank everyone here and all of these families that had supported us through this, i guided us. we thought we were so hard done by what happened in these other families thought we were so hard done by what happened in these otherfamilies in a way we were lucky. but we set out to prove that our father was not a gunman. he was innocent, and we've achieved that. we don't know who did

it. quite frankly, whoever did it will have to meet their own maker. but i'm just sorry that an institution like the british army, that he was so fond of, has brought into disrepute. that's all i have to say. into disrepute. that's all i have to sa . �* ~ ,, say. applause studio: - studio: we'll leave that conference there. i think there are going to be questions from the press. just to recap if you are justjoining questions from the press. just to recap if you arejustjoining us, those relatives reacting to the inquest findings in northern ireland that ten people shot 50 years ago in august, 1971 in well spell fast or entirely innocent —— west belfast. all but one of those shootings was the british army and the use of lethal force in that three day period in august 1971 was not

justified. one of those killed was a catholic priest, another a mother of eight. ten people died in all. apologies for some of the very strong language you could hear and that news conference. obviously very raw emotions. let's go to our northern ireland correspondent richard morgan. some very powerful emotions there. a mixture from the relatives of real anger at what happened to their loved ones, but also relief and really welcoming these findings from the coroner. you reall not these findings from the coroner. you really got a — these findings from the coroner. rim, really got a sense they are asked to how the families were feeling as a result of today's inquest findings. we are in ballymurphy in west belfast. the streets have changed since 1971. the impact of what happened over those three days has

really scarred this community. as you arrive and, black flag on the bmp you arrive and, black flag on the lamp post and pictures of those who were killed in their windows. ten people killed over three days, and the coroner today after 100 days of evidence and more than 150 witnesses, finding that they were all innocent. nine of those ten people the coroner found were shot by the british army. the tenth, john mckerr, could not be confident whether he was shot by the army or paramilitaries. i want to bring in the daughter of one of the victims shotin the daughter of one of the victims shot in ballymurphy. how are you feeling after today? hetero; shot in ballymurphy. how are you feeling after today?— shot in ballymurphy. how are you feeling after today? very happy, i'm ve ha - feeling after today? very happy, i'm very happy that _ feeling after today? very happy, i'm very happy that we _ feeling after today? very happy, i'm very happy that we got _ feeling after today? very happy, i'm very happy that we got the - feeling after today? very happy, i'm very happy that we got the verdict . very happy that we got the verdict that the _ very happy that we got the verdict that the judge gave us, but it was also a _ that the judge gave us, but it was also a wee — that the judge gave us, but it was also a wee bit surreal. i think it was _ also a wee bit surreal. i think it was a _ also a wee bit surreal. i think it was a case _ also a wee bit surreal. i think it was a case we knew, but it's amazing to know _ was a case we knew, but it's amazing to know the _ was a case we knew, but it's amazing

to know the world knows we aren't telling _ to know the world knows we aren't telling lives. we were just trying tom _ telling lives. we were just trying tom and — telling lives. we were just trying to... and that was absolutely amazing _ to... and that was absolutely amazing -- _ to... and that was absolutely amazing —— telling lies. us as a family— amazing —— telling lies. us as a family have _ amazing —— telling lies. us as a family have thought very hard to get our mummy's name cleared. what sort of toll has that — our mummy's name cleared. what sort of toll has that taken _ our mummy's name cleared. what sort of toll has that taken on _ our mummy's name cleared. what sort of toll has that taken on you _ our mummy's name cleared. what sort of toll has that taken on you with - of toll has that taken on you with your family, of toll has that taken on you with yourfamily, waiting 50 of toll has that taken on you with your family, waiting 50 years to have that said in court today? it’s have that said in court today? it's took a heavy toll. we've had a lot of sickness — took a heavy toll. we've had a lot of sickness in our family due to depression, posttraumatic stress. my brother— depression, posttraumatic stress. my brother actually died, he became an alcoholic— brother actually died, he became an alcoholic after my mummy dive and my father— alcoholic after my mummy dive and my father died _ alcoholic after my mummy dive and my father died a _ alcoholic after my mummy dive and my father died a broken man ten years after— father died a broken man ten years after she _ father died a broken man ten years after she was murder. he could never cope with _ after she was murder. he could never cope with. he was left with all the children — cope with. he was left with all the children. the youngest one was two years— children. the youngest one was two years of— children. the youngest one was two years of age. he just didn't want to do it _ years of age. he just didn't want to do it it's _ years of age. he just didn't want to do it. it's affected us all in different— do it. it's affected us all in different ways, but the one thing that kept— different ways, but the one thing that kept us strong was the fact we needed _ that kept us strong was the fact we needed to— that kept us strong was the fact we needed to keep fighting to get our mummy's — needed to keep fighting to get our mummy's name cleared. ijust felt

that i_ mummy's name cleared. ijust felt that i owed — mummy's name cleared. ijust felt that i owed it to my family to get her name — that i owed it to my family to get her name cleared because they not only murdered my mummy, they tortured — only murdered my mummy, they tortured my mummy's family while she was alive _ tortured my mummy's family while she was alive and when she died. is tortured my mummy's family while she was alive and when she died. is this was alive and when she died. is this the end of your _ was alive and when she died. is this the end of yourjourney _ was alive and when she died. is this the end of yourjourney and? - was alive and when she died. is this the end of yourjourney and? have l the end of yourjourney and? have you achieved what you set out to? not really because she's been declared — not really because she's been declared innocent, but let's look at it this _ declared innocent, but let's look at it this way— declared innocent, but let's look at it this way - — declared innocent, but let's look at it this way — why was she shot dead? why was— it this way — why was she shot dead? why was she — it this way — why was she shot dead? why was she murdered? why did the soldiers _ why was she murdered? why did the soldiers who shot her not come to court _ soldiers who shot her not come to court and — soldiers who shot her not come to court and say why they shot her? they _ court and say why they shot her? they said — court and say why they shot her? they said she had guns, why didn't they explain? they had their chance to tell— they explain? they had their chance to tell their— they explain? they had their chance to tell their story, so who's going to tell their story, so who's going to give _ to tell their story, so who's going to give me — to tell their story, so who's going to give me that answer? is the british— to give me that answer? is the british government going to? i personally believe they should be disbanded. they're a combat army.

they're _ disbanded. they're a combat army. they're not— disbanded. they're a combat army. they're not a peacemaking force. thank _ they're not a peacemaking force. thank you — they're not a peacemaking force. thank you very much forjoining us on bbc news. those ten families today, the coroner ruling that they were wholly innocent. they were killed over that three day period in ballymurphy in 1971. the ministry of defence said they note the findings which have been long—awaited, they recognise the difficult process and will take time to review in court. richard, thank you very much indeed. let's turn our attention to the other main new story of the day. the queen has set out the government's priorities at the state opening of parliament. reeta chakrabarti has the details. inaudible

in a covid—secure ceremony in the house of lords, the queen said that the government's priority is to "deliver a national recovery from the pandemic that makes the united kingdom stronger, healthier and more prosperous than before". there were also pledges on infrastructure, training and skills, planning law reform and the environment. the prime minister said the speech outlined a plan for "unleashing our nation's full potential" as the uk recovers from coronavirus. labour has called on the government to deliver "action" rather than "rhetoric". our political correspondent chris mason was watching. an occasion rich in colour and convention, the queen visiting parliament to read out the government's plans. pomp and pageantry, yes, but much more low—key than usual, the monarch arriving by car rather than horse—drawn carriage. wearing a dress and a hat rather than a robe. long—standing rituals maintained,

the door to the commons slammed, symbolising the independence of the elected chamber from the queen. some familiar faces did head to the house of lords, one by one, masks on, at a social distance. and in the upper chamber, the usual fancy dress but far fewer people in there. and so, to the speech itself. my lords and members of the house of commons, my government's priority is to deliver a national recovery from the pandemic that makes the united kingdom stronger, healthier and more prosperous than before. to achieve this, my government will level up opportunities across all parts of the united kingdom, supporting jobs, businesses and economic growth and addressing the impact of the pandemic. there are 30 bills in total, plans for new laws.

at its heart, the central priority is getting the economy fired up again after the pandemic. there is an environment bill on post—brexit rules for protecting nature. and the government says proposals on a new approach to social care in england will be brought forward. i pray that the blessing of almighty god may rest upon your councils. the ceremony concluding, the politics resumes, as ministers make their case for what they want to achieve. opportunity and talent are not equally matched in the country, so talent is equally spread allover the country but the opportunity to go to a good school, get the right skills, get the skills that actually are required by today's employers which is also a moving feast, it's something we haven't spent enough time and attention on. the opposition parties begin their critique. i think after the terrible year we've had which the ceremony this morning really reflected,

our social care sector, health sector, education sector, deserve to know they are getting the reward that they truly deserve. we deserve a government that takes seriously the massive climate change crisis, housing crisis. i would like to see some _ recognition, from the conservative government that scotland has two governments, and scotland has i a government in edinburgh that has been re—elected for the fourth timej in a row with an unprecedented mandate from the people. - for the monarch, a scaled—down occasion still afforded time for brief pleasa ntries. as the queen returns to buckingham palace, the debate here will crank up further. the prime minister and the labour leader leading the discussion in the commons, as the arguments begin about the government's priorities. the government has a big majority and has made big promises. its challenge now,

delivering on them. chris mason, bbc news, westminster. during the debate that followed the queen's speech the prime minister spoke in the commons — and gave more detail on the government's plans for the year ahead. he said the bills on education, health, jobs, and planning will "unleash" the uk's full potential as the country recovers from the coronavirus pandemic. this government won't settle for going back to the way things were. the people of this country have shown by their amazing response to covid that we can do better than that, and the people of this country deserve better than that. and the purpose of this queen's speech is to take this country forward with superb infrastructure — £640 billion, i can tell the right honourable gentleman opposite — with a new focus on skills, on technology, on gigabyte broadband and by fighting crime, by being tough on crime. by investing in our great public services — above all, our nhs — by helping millions of people to realise their dream of homeownership.

we intend to unite and level up across the whole of our united kingdom because we one nation conservatives understand... ina minute. ..understand this crucial point. you will find flair and imagination and enthusiasm and genius distributed evenly across this country while opportunity is not, and we need to change that because it is notjust a moral and a social disgrace, it's an economic mistake. it's a criminal waste of talent. responding to the queen's speech, the leader of the opposition, sir keir starmer, said the pandemic has brutally exposed the consequences of a decade of neglect. we needed a queen's speech that rose to the _ we needed a queen's speech that rose to the scale _ we needed a queen's speech that rose to the scale of the moment, that rewarded — to the scale of the moment, that rewarded the sacrifices of the last year and — rewarded the sacrifices of the last year and rebuild the foundation. but instead, _ year and rebuild the foundation. but instead, this queen's speech merely

papers _ instead, this queen's speech merely papers over— instead, this queen's speech merely papers over the cracks. it's packed with short—term gimmicks, distant promises — with short—term gimmicks, distant promises. this government is never short— promises. this government is never short of— promises. this government is never short of those. but it mrs the urgency— short of those. but it mrs the urgency in— short of those. but it mrs the urgency in the scale of the transformation that's needed. in our economy, _ transformation that's needed. in our economy, or— transformation that's needed. in our economy, or public services in our society _ economy, or public services in our society it — economy, or public services in our society. it lacks the ambition or a plan _ society. it lacks the ambition or a plan to— society. it lacks the ambition or a plan to achieve it. the heart of this queen's speech should have been a jobs _ this queen's speech should have been a jobs plan, _ this queen's speech should have been a jobs plan, a this queen's speech should have been ajobs plan, a plan to this queen's speech should have been a jobs plan, a plan to tackle unemployment, particularly the shocking — unemployment, particularly the shocking levels of youth unemployment. but also to change how the economy works. that isn't impossible. the queen's speech included a number of economic measures including investing in and improving national infrastructure. there were also plans for a lifetime skills guarantee. the queen also said that the government will ensure that the public finances are returned to a sustainable path once the economic recovery is secure. our economics correspondent andy verity has more.

widening homeownership has been the aim of prime ministers of all stripes in the last 40 years, from mrs thatcher to tony blair to boris johnson. but there is a fundamental problem. in the last 25 years, house prices have risen by more than 150% in real terms, after taking inflation into account. but wages have only risen by 22%. even with some of the cheapest mortgages ever offered, home ownership, especially among young people, has been dropping for years. among under 355, fewer than half own a home. the government says there is too little supply of housing. it's answer is wholesale reform of planning laws, which it says are the reason it takes 15 years or more between developers buying land and selling a home. a new zoning system will allow fast—track planning applications, potentially halving the time it takes to build a new home. but it is not uncontroversial. we have major concerns about the government's proposed planning bill, because we think that it will weaken local democracy and influence

in the planning system, and also that it will lead to less genuinely affordable homes being built. the economy faces huge challenges emerging from lockdown, with some jobs disappearing and shortages of skilled workers like chefs, but the number reskilling through further education has dropped sharply since 2010. the government's plan is a new flexible loan scheme to allow adults to fund a change in career. but will it do the job? businesses will have been delighted to hear skills featured so much in the queen's speech today. it is going to be the big challenge getting people to where those newjobs are as they are created. we will be looking for a commitment from the government to employers' voices being heard in the system, including tackling the problematic apprenticeship levy. after the worst year for the economy in three centuries, the challenge of delivering a recovery plan that adapts the economy to the post—covid world and leads to greater home ownership is huge. the measures announced in the queen's speech may be

radical, and they may not be enough on their own to meet the scale of that challenge. andy verity, bbc news. among the measures outlined in the queen's speech is a bill which the government says will support a "lifetime skills guarantee" for access to post—16 education and training. there's also a higher education bill which could see universities in england facing fines if they fail to protect free speech on campus. let's hear now from the labour mp and shadow education secretary, kate green. good afternoon to you, kate. what do you make of the government's proposals? you make of the government's preposals?_ you make of the government's --roosals? ~ .., ., . proposals? welcome as ever, what we are caettin proposals? welcome as ever, what we are getting is — proposals? welcome as ever, what we are getting is big _ proposals? welcome as ever, what we are getting is big promises, _ proposals? welcome as ever, what we are getting is big promises, but - proposals? welcome as ever, what we are getting is big promises, but the i are getting is big promises, but the reality is much thinner. so the lifetime skills guarantee and the premise of loans to enable people to have adult or further higher education, this loan arrangement

won't come in until 2025. the support is only available through the guarantee forjobs in certain sectors, not in retail, not in hospitality, sectors that have been hit hard by the pandemic. if you've got two a levels already, you are not going to get access to support forfurther training, and we know to that if you need to borrow money, you are not supported with your living costs while you are studying. that's going to make it really difficult for mature students, people with family commitments, for example to go back into education. so i think there is a big gulf between what the government is saying it wants to do and what we are actually going to see coming out of these proposals. yet are actually going to see coming out of these proposals.— of these proposals. yet the aim is a aood one of these proposals. yet the aim is a good one for— of these proposals. yet the aim is a good one for maturely. _ of these proposals. yet the aim is a good one for maturely. you - of these proposals. yet the aim is a good one for maturely. you make l of these proposals. yet the aim is a l good one for maturely. you make the point that you are not eligible if you have got qualifications up to a level level, but that is the point, isn't it? that people who perhaps didn't get to that level, who want to re—educate, upscale later in life, will be able to do it on this

scheme. the problem is if you are working in industry and have qualifications for an industry where there aren't going to bejobs in future because i think we all know that the labour market is changing very, very dramatically. you know, you will need to retrain and rescale, and many people will be shut out of that path by the way that the government is structuring this. we also need to make sure that people with very low levels of skills and qualifications have a proper pathway up to getting those level three, those a level and equivalent qualifications. at the moment, that's pathway hasn't been put in place. there is a gap at the very bottom of the skills letter, if you like them over the government isn't putting in funding or support to enable people to get those basic level qualifications that would start them on the road up to level three qualifications. bind start them on the road up to level three qualifications.— three qualifications. and on the issue of fines _ three qualifications. and on the issue of fines for _ three qualifications. and on the issue of fines for universities? l issue of fines for universities? well, this is about the proposals if universities don't support opportunities forfree universities don't support opportunities for free speech. welcome of course we are all in favour of free speech on campus,

bikes, really, this shouldn't be the most important thing the government is doing about universities, what students are worried about is paying the rent, finishing their courses, getting a job. there are only a tiny handful of cases, actually more people haven't been able to exercise free speech on campus. we have seen, for example, thejoint free speech on campus. we have seen, for example, the joint parliamentary committee on human rights identifying that this is really very rare. only half a dozen cases out of 10,000 bookings on campus, one of those was a booking by a fraudster where people haven't actually been able to go ahead with planned events. so, you know, this is a distraction, a dead cat to draw away attention from the government's real failure to support students properly. students who have had a really difficult year with their studies during the pandemic and many of them now, of course, very worried about their future studies and about the job they will get after graduating. the job they will get after graduating-— the job they will get after ruraduatin. . ., . graduating. 0k, we have to leave it there. graduating. 0k, we have to leave it there- and — graduating. 0k, we have to leave it there- and you _ graduating. 0k, we have to leave it there. and you very _ graduating. 0k, we have to leave it there. and you very much - graduating. 0k, we have to leave it there. and you very much indeed, i there. and you very much indeed, kate greene, from the labour party, thank you. i'm becoming prime

minister in 2019, borisjohnson pledged to fix the crisis in adult social care. today's queen's speech said simply that measures would be brought forward. campaigners have criticised the lack of detail on the proposals. this afternoon, the former prime minister, theresa may, said it's not an easy issue to solve. this speech commits the government to bring forward proposals on social care reform. no, this commitment has been made by governments of all colours over the last two decades and it's a bit rich for the leader of the opposition and other members of the opposition and other members of the opposition and other members of the labour party to complain to the government on this issue given that they were 13 years in government and had i think six or seven different proposals and never actually delivered anything on this issue. i know it's not an easy issue. i know it's not an easy issue. i know it's not an easy issue. i put forward a plan, it was comprehensively rejected, so i recognise the difficulty in trying to come forward with something here but it is an issue we need to grasp. i think the pandemic has shown the issues around social care that came

up issues around social care that came up in the pandemic have shown the importance of the sand of reform that genuinely provides a sustainable social care system into the future. but it's also, welcome if the honourable gentleman would just wait for me to say this point commit also needs to be a system that does not exacerbate the intergenerational divisions. so what did we hear on _ intergenerational divisions. so what did we hear on health _ intergenerational divisions. so what did we hear on health and _ intergenerational divisions. so what did we hear on health and social- did we hear on health and social care in the speak —— speech today? would speak to alastair mcguire who is professor of health economics at the london school of economics. good afternoon, professor. what did you make of what you heard? the queen's speech is largely symbolic. itjust shows the queen's speech is largely symbolic. it just shows the direction _ symbolic. it just shows the direction of travel. there was a lot of detail— direction of travel. there was a lot of detail missing, but the detail goes _ of detail missing, but the detail goes back to the bill that was passed — goes back to the bill that was passed this year by the governments on integration and innovation. the plan really— on integration and innovation. the plan really is to move away from competing — plan really is to move away from competing hospital trusts competing for patients to cooperation for the

delivery— for patients to cooperation for the delivery of— for patients to cooperation for the delivery of health care generally. and i_ delivery of health care generally. and i think that's a good move. it's very ambitious. it kind of delegates power— very ambitious. it kind of delegates power to— very ambitious. it kind of delegates power to local authorities, well, local— power to local authorities, well, local institutions as well as local authorities. so it delegates the operation to the localities within england's, but it's accompanied by centralised ministerial power, and we will— centralised ministerial power, and we will have to wait for the detail to see _ we will have to wait for the detail to see how— we will have to wait for the detail to see how that goes, buts, of course, — to see how that goes, buts, of course, anything under covid that was delegated by ministerial power didn't— was delegated by ministerial power didn't go— was delegated by ministerial power didn't go extremely well, and i'm thinking — didn't go extremely well, and i'm thinking here of things like the track— thinking here of things like the track and — thinking here of things like the track and trace idea, the idea of procurement for ppe, even the announcements of lockdown and the eat 0ut _ announcements of lockdown and the eat out to _ announcements of lockdown and the eat out to help out idea. all these schemes— eat out to help out idea. all these schemes were central schemes, and it didn't— schemes were central schemes, and it didn't really— schemes were central schemes, and it didn't really work particularly well, — didn't really work particularly well, so _ didn't really work particularly well, so whether centralised power is going _ well, so whether centralised power is going to — well, so whether centralised power is going to work effectively with

combined operational delivery at the local level, i'm not too sure. i would — local level, i'm not too sure. i would have _ local level, i'm not too sure. i would have to see the detail to see that _ would have to see the detail to see that i_ would have to see the detail to see that. ., .. , . ~ would have to see the detail to see that. ., , . ~ . that. i wonder if we can 'ust take a ste back that. i wonder if we can 'ust take a step back and t that. i wonder if we can 'ust take a step back and look _ that. i wonder if we can 'ust take a step back and look at _ that. i wonder if we can just take a step back and look at the - that. i wonder if we can just take a step back and look at the nhs - that. i wonder if we can just take a step back and look at the nhs and | step back and look at the nhs and how it compares internationally. it's just gone through this incredibly difficult year with the pandemic. how has it performed, and how does it compare with health systems in similar countries? over the past three decades, the uk has consistently have lower public spending on health and most of the other high income countries in europe, scandinavian countries, for example, so, it started from a very low expenditure base. if you think about 60% of that expenditure turns into pay, so it's very heavily spent on the workforce. it's meant that with low levels of expenditure, we have got very difficult workforce

problems. that's combined with a severe difficulty in workforce planning so that we have found ourselves with huge vacancy rates, very high vacancy rates for physicians, about 10%, and similarly for nurses. we have lower per capita volumes of physicians and nurses and most other high income countries, so the number of physicians and nurses that we have is relatively low compared to other countries. that we would find comparable data for. we also have low bed numbers, in particular low i see you bad numbers per head of population. of course, that was a difficulty as covid struck because our hospital capacity wasn't there. again, the government centrally built these nightingale hospitals, so—called, but again, they didn't think ahead to the local problems because somebody had to staff those hospitals, luckily they

weren't needed, but the staffing of those hospitals became a difficulty as well. . ., ., . ., as well. 0k, we are going to have to leave it there. _ as well. 0k, we are going to have to leave it there. thank _ as well. 0k, we are going to have to leave it there. thank you _ as well. 0k, we are going to have to leave it there. thank you very - as well. 0k, we are going to have to leave it there. thank you very much | leave it there. thank you very much for your time. that is professor alastair mcguire from the london school of economics. well, watching all the developments here today and with me now is our political correspondence, jonathan blake. jonathan, a great deal to chew over. what stood out to? i jonathan, a great deal to chew over. what stood out to?— what stood out to? i think in some wa s, ou what stood out to? i think in some ways. you didn't — what stood out to? i think in some ways, you didn't really _ what stood out to? i think in some ways, you didn't really need - what stood out to? i think in some ways, you didn't really need to - ways, you didn't really need to listen to the green any further than the first line of her speech promising that the government would deliver a national recovery from the pandemic, because forall deliver a national recovery from the pandemic, because for all of the talk of leveling up in the government's other priorities, the bills, the pieces of legislation that are contained within the queen's speech that we are today, it is the pandemic still that will overshadow, influence the government's plans from here on or sometime to come. that said, i think what is significant in there, the headline announcement of further education money, which is difficult for anyone to disagree with, really,

not a particularly controversial policy, but it doesn't go far enough wasn't in the speech, and that was the detailed plans that the government has promised previously to come forward with and hasn't done, again today. malcolm it was borisjohnson on the steps of downing street after he won the 2019 election to promise to deal without that problem once and for all. today was an opportunity to come forward, people hoped with detailed plans to do that, but they weren't forthcoming. we did get a premise that later in the year, detailed proposals would come forward, but as you have heard from us or tier starmer said that that is not your —— nearly enough certainly for labour and for many others who really want to find out and want the government to fix that problem with some urgency. we have heard a lot about leveling up. there wasn't a huge amount in the speech in terms of new commitments, new money, new policies that the government is going to do in that area. at the moment, they are sort of lumping

together bid —— big infrastructure projects, hospital building broadband, transport, network announcements, most of which we have heard already. i think conservative mps, a lot of conservative voters will be wanting to know what the government's plans are in that area to meet that commitment to address inequality and parts of the uk, and they will be looking for later in they will be looking for later in the year when the government has promised to come forward with a bit more detail in the so—called leveling up white paper which we are expecting later in the year. jonathan, many thanks for all of that. thank you, that is our political correspondentjonathan blake. a great deal happening here in westminster today. they will form the basis of our discussions and debates over the next days, weeks and months to come. but that's, it's back to you. rita, thank you very much indeed. also at westminster today, the financier lex green cell being questioned by mps over the collapse of his firm and

the lobbying controversy that centred on the former prime minister, david cameron. the treasury select committee's inquiry has also investigated how mr cameron lobbied the chancellor of the exchequer, rishi sunak over government backed coronavirus loans for the firm. mr green cell told mps he bears full responsibility for the collapse of his company. please understand that i bear complete responsibility for the collapse of greenville capital. i am desperately saddened that more than 1000 very— desperately saddened that more than 1000 very hard—working people have lost their— 1000 very hard—working people have lost theirjobs at green cell. likewise, _ lost theirjobs at green cell. likewise, i take full responsibility for any— likewise, i take full responsibility for any hardship being felt by our clients _ for any hardship being felt by our clients and their suppliers, and indeed, — clients and their suppliers, and indeed, investors in our programmes. it's indeed, investors in our programmes. lt's deeply— indeed, investors in our programmes. it's deeply regrettable that we were let down _ it's deeply regrettable that we were let down by our leading insurer

whose — let down by our leading insurer whose actions assured greenville's collapse. _ whose actions assured greenville's collapse, indeed some of our biggest customers _ collapse, indeed some of our biggest customers. to all of those affected by this, _ customers. to all of those affected by this, i_ customers. to all of those affected by this, i am truly sorry. lets customers. to all of those affected by this, i am truly sorry.— by this, i am truly sorry. lets talk to our political— by this, i am truly sorry. lets talk to our political correspondent - by this, i am truly sorry. lets talk| to our political correspondent who joins me. such a contract —— controversial figure. joins me. such a contract —— controversialfigure. what joins me. such a contract —— controversial figure. what to joins me. such a contract —— controversialfigure. what to be learned today? controversial figure. what to be learned today?— controversial figure. what to be learned today? controversial figure. what to be learned toda ? . �*, ~ . learned today? that's right, ben. we have been desperate _ learned today? that's right, ben. we have been desperate to _ learned today? that's right, ben. we have been desperate to hear - learned today? that's right, ben. we have been desperate to hear from i learned today? that's right, ben. we. have been desperate to hear from him have been desperate to hearfrom him for weeks since this whole saga interrupted. shining a very bright light into the world of lobbying and how people try and influence the actions of ministers. not from all the way through this, greenville and david cameron who is of course working for greenville capital for the time that we are talking about have insisted that they have done nothing wrong, that they were obeying the rules, but it really has been a fascinating case study into how that world works. in the intensive lobbying efforts that

david cameron working for this company applied to his friends and government during the early weeks of the pandemic last year, and will as well as hearing from lex green cell today, the treasury select committee have released whatsapp messages and e—mails that david cameron has provided them ahead of his own appearance in front of the committee on thursday that show us just how he was flattering his friends and governments, he was trying to persuade them very intently to hear his pleas for them to take green cell's products seriously. one of the solutions he was arguing for the covid crisis commit to provide supply chain finance and he was desperate for the treasury to enable it to access one of the government backed loan schemes. in the end, unsuccessfully, but the tax —— texts are worth reading. unsuccessfully, but the tax -- texts are worth reading.— are worth reading. what is this whole affair — are worth reading. what is this whole affair go _ are worth reading. what is this whole affair go now? - are worth reading. what is this whole affair go now? is - are worth reading. what is this whole affair go now? is a - are worth reading. what is this whole affair go now? is a set l are worth reading. what is this| whole affair go now? is a set on thursday whole affair go now? is a set on thursda, , . ., thursday they continue their in . uiries

thursday they continue their inquiries by _ thursday they continue their inquiries by hearing - thursday they continue their inquiries by hearing from - thursday they continue their i inquiries by hearing from david cameron himself, and that really will be fascinating. it's one of a number of inquiries up and running in westminster, when is done by a government lawyer within site number ten that will report back at the end ofjune looking at how david cameron's lobbying, what its effect was. there is also an inquiry into the much broader issue of lobbying by the committee. on several fronts, of lobbying by the committee. on severalfronts, this is something that people in westminster really are keen to get to grips with and investigate further. mil are keen to get to grips with and investigate further.— are keen to get to grips with and investigate further. all right, ben, thank ou investigate further. all right, ben, thank you very _ investigate further. all right, ben, thank you very much _ investigate further. all right, ben, thank you very much indeed. - thank you very much indeed. political correspondent. now, i think we can hear actually from the treasury select committee that were questioning lex green cell, steve baker is just putting some questions now. let's listen in. baker isjust putting some questions now. let's listen in.— now. let's listen in. those businesses _ now. let's listen in. those businesses such _ now. let's listen in. those businesses such as - now. let's listen in. those businesses such as my - now. let's listen in. those i businesses such as my own. now. let's listen in. those - businesses such as my own. would now. let's listen in. those _ businesses such as my own. would you a . ree with businesses such as my own. would you agree with me — businesses such as my own. would you agree with me that _ businesses such as my own. would you agree with me that there _ businesses such as my own. would you agree with me that there is _ businesses such as my own. would you agree with me that there is a _ businesses such as my own. would you agree with me that there is a rager - agree with me that there is a rager -- major— agree with me that there is a rager -- maior bris— agree with me that there is a rager —— major bris care that using a ion machine _ —— major bris care that using a ion machine learning to rapidly expand credit— machine learning to rapidly expand credit on— machine learning to rapidly expand credit on a — machine learning to rapidly expand credit on a huge scale that the

risks— credit on a huge scale that the risks of— credit on a huge scale that the risks of such a business model, indeed — risks of such a business model, indeed the _ risks of such a business model, indeed the risk are inherent in any kind of— indeed the risk are inherent in any kind of use — indeed the risk are inherent in any kind of use with that kind of technology could very, very quickly expand _ technology could very, very quickly expand beyond our capacity to regulate — expand beyond our capacity to regulate and contain those risks at all. i. all. i think arr. - i think that's arr. — i think that's why you all. i think that's why you are askin- i think that's why you are asking questions of me so that you can make sure that you can understand those risks. i have certainly learned something today~ _ i have certainly learned something today. thank you very much. thank ou, today. thank you very much. thank you. chair- — today. thank you very much. thank you. chair- i— today. thank you very much. thank you, chair. iwant _ today. thank you very much. thank you, chair. i want to _ today. thank you very much. thank you, chair. i want to harp— today. thank you very much. thank you, chair. i want to harp back- today. thank you very much. thank you, chair. i want to harp back to l you, chair. i want to harp back to the time — you, chair. i want to harp back to the time when _ you, chair. i want to harp back to the time when your— you, chair. i want to harp back to the time when your business - you, chair. i want to harp back to the time when your business was valued _ the time when your business was valued at — the time when your business was valued at $55 _ the time when your business was valued at $3.5 billion _ the time when your business was valued at $3.5 billion with - the time when your business was valued at $3.5 billion with the . valued at $3.5 billion with the capital— valued at $3.5 billion with the capital injection— valued at $3.5 billion with the capital injection that - valued at $3.5 billion with the capital injection that you - valued at $3.5 billion with the - capital injection that you received from _ capital injection that you received from softbank. _ capital injection that you received from softbank. i— capital injection that you received from softbank. ijust— capital injection that you received from softbank. ijust want - capital injection that you received from softbank. ijust want to - capital injection that you received from softbank. ijust want to ask| from softbank. ijust want to ask you what— from softbank. ijust want to ask you what you _ from softbank. ijust want to ask you what you thought _ from softbank. ijust want to ask you what you thought about - from softbank. ijust want to ask you what you thought about that| you what you thought about that evaluation — you what you thought about that evaluation at _ you what you thought about that evaluation at the _ you what you thought about that evaluation at the time? - you what you thought about that evaluation at the time? my - you what you thought about that evaluation at the time?- you what you thought about that evaluation at the time? my view of the evaluation _ evaluation at the time? my view of the evaluation at _ evaluation at the time? my view of the evaluation at the _ evaluation at the time? my view of the evaluation at the time - evaluation at the time? my view of the evaluation at the time was - evaluation at the time? my view ofj the evaluation at the time was that it is consistent with the evaluation of the business when our previous

institution had invested about a year before. institution had invested about a year before-— institution had invested about a ear before. ., , , . , year before. hominy times earnings was are? year before. hominy times earnings was age? 20 _ year before. hominy times earnings was age? 20 times. _ year before. hominy times earnings was age? 20 times. 20 _ year before. hominy times earnings was age? 20 times. 20 times - year before. hominy times earnings was age? 20 times. 20 times one l year before. hominy times earnings i was age? 20 times. 20 times one year forward. was age? 20 times. 20 times one year forward- you — was age? 20 times. 20 times one year forward. you have _ was age? 20 times. 20 times one year forward. you have mentioned - was age? 20 times. 20 times one year forward. you have mentioned quite - was age? 20 times. 20 times one year forward. you have mentioned quite a l forward. you have mentioned quite a few times during _ forward. you have mentioned quite a few times during your _ forward. you have mentioned quite a few times during your evidence - forward. you have mentioned quite a few times during your evidence that l few times during your evidence that you obviously— few times during your evidence that you obviously have _ few times during your evidence that you obviously have a _ few times during your evidence that you obviously have a great - few times during your evidence that you obviously have a great pride - few times during your evidence that you obviously have a great pride ini you obviously have a great pride in the service — you obviously have a great pride in the service you _ you obviously have a great pride in the service you are _ you obviously have a great pride in the service you are providing - you obviously have a great pride in the service you are providing to . the service you are providing to pharmacies— the service you are providing to pharmacies in— the service you are providing to pharmacies in the _ the service you are providing to pharmacies in the uk. - the service you are providing to pharmacies in the uk. can- the service you are providing to pharmacies in the uk. can you i pharmacies in the uk. can you quantify— pharmacies in the uk. can you quantify for— pharmacies in the uk. can you quantify for the _ pharmacies in the uk. can you quantify for the committee - pharmacies in the uk. can you | quantify for the committee how pharmacies in the uk. can you - quantify for the committee how much value you _ quantify for the committee how much value you think— quantify for the committee how much value you think came _ quantify for the committee how much value you think came from _ quantify for the committee how much value you think came from the - quantify for the committee how much value you think came from the fact i value you think came from the fact that you _ value you think came from the fact that you were _ value you think came from the fact that you were doing _ value you think came from the fact that you were doing work - value you think came from the fact that you were doing work that - value you think came from the fact that you were doing work that had| that you were doing work that had the sort _ that you were doing work that had the sort of— that you were doing work that had the sort of uk _ that you were doing work that had the sort of uk government- that you were doing work that had the sort of uk government on- that you were doing work that had the sort of uk government on its, j the sort of uk government on its, including, — the sort of uk government on its, including, of— the sort of uk government on its, including, of course, _ the sort of uk government on its, including, of course, an _ the sort of uk government on its, including, of course, an advisory. including, of course, an advisory relationship _ including, of course, an advisory relationship with— including, of course, an advisory relationship with the _ including, of course, an advisory relationship with the former - including, of course, an advisory l relationship with the former prime minister _ relationship with the former prime minister. ~ , ., . ,~' . relationship with the former prime minister. ~ , ., . . , ., minister. when you ask a question about the value, _ minister. when you ask a question about the value, do _ minister. when you ask a question about the value, do you _ minister. when you ask a question about the value, do you mean - minister. when you ask a question about the value, do you mean the| about the value, do you mean the kind of financial value, or do you mean more broadly than that? i want to t mean more broadly than that? i want tot and mean more broadly than that? i want to try and get — mean more broadly than that? i want to try and get a _ mean more broadly than that? i want

to try and get a sense _ mean more broadly than that? i want to try and get a sense of— mean more broadly than that? i want to try and get a sense of whether - to try and get a sense of whether you think— to try and get a sense of whether you think that _ to try and get a sense of whether you think that that _ to try and get a sense of whether you think that that $35 - to try and get a sense of whether you think that that $35 billion i you think that that $35 billion evaluation — you think that that $35 billion evaluation had _ you think that that $35 billion evaluation had in _ you think that that $3.5 billion evaluation had in it— you think that that $35 billion evaluation had in it some i you think that that $35 billion evaluation had in it some kind| you think that that $35 billion . evaluation had in it some kind of premium — evaluation had in it some kind of premium for— evaluation had in it some kind of premium for the _ evaluation had in it some kind of premium for the fact _ evaluation had in it some kind of premium for the fact that i evaluation had in it some kind of premium for the fact that you i evaluation had in it some kind of. premium for the fact that you were obviously— premium for the fact that you were obviously well _ premium for the fact that you were obviously well embedded - premium for the fact that you were obviously well embedded with i premium for the fact that you were obviously well embedded with the i premium for the fact that you were i obviously well embedded with the uk government— obviously well embedded with the uk government and _ obviously well embedded with the uk government and you _ obviously well embedded with the uk government and you had _ obviously well embedded with the uk government and you had a _ obviously well embedded with the uk government and you had a former- government and you had a former prime _ government and you had a former prime minister— government and you had a former prime minister is _ government and you had a former prime minister is one _ government and you had a former prime minister is one of— government and you had a former prime minister is one of your- prime minister is one of your advisers _ advisers. so. - advisers. so, for. advisers. i so, for the advisers. _ so, for the softbank avrsersd — so, for the softbank invested evrsersd — so, for the softbank invested was roughly identical to the evaluation of the previous investment about a year before by general atlantic, general atlantic's investment took place before we had started funding any uk government programmes, sol definitely think it was helpful, but i don't think that it was definitive of the evaluation given that they remain the same. in relative to the current markets, 20 times forward, it would actually be relatively low for a company that is in the financial technology space.

ok, thank you. so turning to this, quite _ ok, thank you. so turning to this, quite a _ ok, thank you. so turning to this, quite a circular— ok, thank you. so turning to this, quite a circular relationship i ok, thank you. so turning to this, quite a circular relationship in i quite a circular relationship in terms — quite a circular relationship in terms of— quite a circular relationship in terms of some _ quite a circular relationship in terms of some of— quite a circular relationship in terms of some of the - quite a circular relationship in . terms of some of the financing, quite a circular relationship in i terms of some of the financing, you had softbank— terms of some of the financing, you had softbank investing _ terms of some of the financing, you had softbank investing as _ terms of some of the financing, you had softbank investing as a - terms of some of the financing, you had softbank investing as a capitali had softbank investing as a capital investor _ had softbank investing as a capital investor. where _ had softbank investing as a capital investor. where the _ had softbank investing as a capital investor. where the cases - had softbank investing as a capital investor. where the cases of i had softbank investing as a capital investor. where the cases of funds or firms, _ investor. where the cases of funds orfirms, rather, _ investor. where the cases of funds orfirms, rather, that— investor. where the cases of funds or firms, rather, that were - investor. where the cases of funds or firms, rather, that were both. or firms, rather, that were both funding — or firms, rather, that were both funding themselves _ or firms, rather, that were both funding themselves through i or firms, rather, that were both. funding themselves through your supply— funding themselves through your supply chain _ funding themselves through your supply chain finance _ funding themselves through your supply chain finance product, i funding themselves through your| supply chain finance product, and then also— supply chain finance product, and then also investing _ supply chain finance product, and then also investing either- supply chain finance product, and then also investing either capitali then also investing either capital or investing _ then also investing either capital or investing in— then also investing either capital or investing in the _ then also investing either capital or investing in the funds - or investing in the funds themselves. _ themselves. no - themselves. no- themselves. no, , , ., themselves. no. , ii" ., no. so this report in 2019 from ltloomberg _ no. so this report in 2019 from bloomberg that _ no. so this report in 2019 from bloomberg that said _ no. so this report in 2019 from bloomberg that said that i no. so this report in 2019 from i bloomberg that said that vodafone was putting — bloomberg that said that vodafone was putting invoices _ bloomberg that said that vodafone was putting invoices into— bloomberg that said that vodafone was putting invoices into a - bloomberg that said that vodafone was putting invoices into a green. was putting invoices into a green cell sponsored _ was putting invoices into a green cell sponsored supply— was putting invoices into a green cell sponsored supply chain i was putting invoices into a green. cell sponsored supply chain finance fund, _ cell sponsored supply chain finance fund, and _ cell sponsored supply chain finance fund, and also— cell sponsored supply chain finance fund, and also participating - cell sponsored supply chain finance fund, and also participating as i cell sponsored supply chain finance fund, and also participating as an. fund, and also participating as an investor. — fund, and also participating as an investor. and _ fund, and also participating as an investor, and then— fund, and also participating as an investor, and then vodafone i investor, and then vodafone treasurer _ investor, and then vodafone treasurer is _ investor, and then vodafone treasurer is coming - investor, and then vodafone treasurer is coming to i investor, and then vodafone treasurer is coming to worki investor, and then vodafone . treasurer is coming to work as investor, and then vodafone i treasurer is coming to work as your cf0~ _ treasurer is coming to work as your cf0~ that— treasurer is coming to work as your cf0~ that is— treasurer is coming to work as your cf0~ that is not— treasurer is coming to work as your cfo. that is not an _ treasurer is coming to work as your cfo. that is not an example i treasurer is coming to work as your cfo. that is not an example of- treasurer is coming to work as your| cfo. that is not an example of what i describe _ cfo. that is not an example of what i describe. �* . ., .. cfo. that is not an example of what i describe. �* , . ~ ., i describe. i've mistaken, i had forgotten _ i describe. i've mistaken, i had forgotten that _ i describe. i've mistaken, i had forgotten that one _ i describe. i've mistaken, i had forgotten that one instance i i describe. i've mistaken, i had| forgotten that one instance that i describe. i've mistaken, i had i

forgotten that one instance that is the case, pots, of course, it's not an investment in our equity, and i thought that was the question that you are asking me was whether people were invested in the equity of green cell capital, and we were then financing the same thing. so that's the financier _ financing the same thing. so that's the financier being _ financing the same thing. so that's the financier being questioned i financing the same thing. so that's the financier being questioned by l the financier being questioned by mps the financier being questioned by mp5 on the treasury select committee. sophie is coming up next. hello there. another dramatic day of weather. we have some very big thunderstorms initially start off across east anglia, the midlands and wales. look at this thundercloud in shropshire, always a sign of a lively storm. then we have this, a hailstorm kind of making things look like winter had returned here for a time. those really big thunderstorms have been pushing their way northwards across northern england, some very lively looking storms across yorkshire into the northeast as well. and as we look at the forecast this evening and overnight, these areas of heavy thundery rain are going to be

pushing their way northwards into scotland, so there will be some heavy downpour is working their way northwards overnight, still with some —— some thunder and lightning around as well. eventually, the weather will become a further southwards, clear spells developing, and temperatures broadly similar to those of last night, room 6—7 for our low. now, tomorrow, low pressure has been with us for a few days, it is with us again. so another unsettled day. so we will see general rain part—time, and a greater chance of seeing some thunderstorms in northern ireland through the afternoon. the heavy showers in england and wales tending to be across these western areas. the showers generally have bigger gaps between them so you have a better chance of dodging the downpours, but with lighter winds, those showers will be slow—moving. so if you catch one from a could be with you for a little bit longer. now, towards the channel islands, little area of low pressure here will bring outbreaks of rain through the afternoon, and there is a chance that this low just the afternoon, and there is a chance that this lowjust moves a little bit further northwards, if that happens, it would threaten to bring some rain in across southern counties of england, so that is one

to watch the wednesday afternoon. by the time we get to thursday, it is a familiar —looking weather charts, really, isn't it? showers or even some longer outbreaks of rain across england and wales, scotland and northern ireland, thunderstorms build particularly through the afternoon, but where we see the sunshine, again, recent days, it hasn't felt that bad, the wednesday quite late in those temperatures are similar to what we have had over recent days, about 14—16 celsius. friday sees one area of low—pressure ease away, but the weekends, another low pressure just eases straight back and off the atlantic, and that in many respects puts us back to square one. at the unsettled weather and showery whether continuing through the weekend and write the way into next weekend and write the way into next week as well. that's your forecast.

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