this is bbc news. the headlines: former prime minister david cameron insists he broke no rules when lobbying ministers over the now collapsed firm greensill capital. i accept it is a strong argument that having a former minister engaged on the behalf of any interest no matter what the motives are cause can be open to misinterpretation.- are cause can be open to misinterpretation. are cause can be open to misinterretation. a, misinterpretation. the other night at the cancer _ misinterpretation. the other night at the cancer centre _ misinterpretation. the other night at the cancer centre hospital - misinterpretation. the other night at the cancer centre hospital in i at the cancer centre hospital in central london where we have been talking about the backlog in waiting lists all lists all day although talking to staff and patients here actually most have been able to carry on with their cancer treatment right through the pandemic. so there

is not a backlog. new data suggests covid cases in england are at their lowest since august — but there are concerns about a variant first identified in india. it isa it is a variant of concern. we are anxious about it. it has been spreading. at the moment there is a very wide range of scientific opinion about what could happen. world leaders have appealed for calm amid escalating violence between israelis and palestinians — more than 70 have been killed in recent days. the largest tunnelling machine used in a uk rail project starts work under the chiltern hills — on the hs2 high speed link.

good afternoon and welcome to bbc news. the former prime minister, david cameron, has told mps he broke no rules in lobbying senior members of the government on behalf of greensill capital. he's been questioned by the treasury committee, which is looking at the collapse of the finance firm. mr cameron told mps his main motivation was to help the government and businesses — rather than personally making money. he admitted he was paid a �*generous amount�* by greensill — �*far more' than when he was prime minister. our political correspondent damian grammaticus is in westminster: he has been listening to what was a long session. he has been listening to what was a long session-— he has been listening to what was a lona session. , ., , ., ., ., long session. this was more than two hours of grading _ long session. this was more than two hours of grading of— long session. this was more than two hours of grading of the _ long session. this was more than two hours of grading of the former - long session. this was more than two hours of grading of the former prime | hours of grading of the former prime minister. it's pretty uncomfortable at times for him and there is more

to come as well. it will continue. david cameron obtained not with an apology or anything but he said that he hopes that they would agree that he hopes that they would agree that he had done nothing wrong but he did say he believed that prime minister's actions or former prime minister's actions or former prime minister is he now on reflection thought they were in some sort of a different category and had to he said acts carefully. so on reflection he thought he would not in future contact officials with some many text messages, so many whatsapp messages as he did in this case. several dozen. but what he tried to explain he said was he thought he was doing this for the right reasons. he thought he was trying to help in a time of crisis. this was his exchange rate siobhan mcdonough. d0 this was his exchange rate siobhan mcdonough— this was his exchange rate siobhan mcdonouuh. ,, ., ., i. mcdonough. do you not feel that you have demeaned _ mcdonough. do you not feel that you have demeaned yourself— mcdonough. do you not feel that you have demeaned yourself and - mcdonough. do you not feel that you

have demeaned yourself and your - have demeaned yourself and your position— have demeaned yourself and your position by a whatsapp in your way on the _ position by a whatsapp in your way on the back— position by a whatsapp in your way on the back of a fraudulent enterprise based on selling bonds of hi-h enterprise based on selling bonds of high risk_ enterprise based on selling bonds of high risk that to unsuspecting investors? my high risk that to unsuspecting investors?— high risk that to unsuspecting investors? g , ., ., investors? my view is that what i did was i made _ investors? my view is that what i did was i made a _ investors? my view is that what i did was i made a choice - investors? my view is that what i did was i made a choice to - investors? my view is that what i did was i made a choice to workl investors? my view is that what i i did was i made a choice to work for a business — did was i made a choice to work for a business which _ did was i made a choice to work for a business which i _ did was i made a choice to work for a business which i hoped _ did was i made a choice to work for a business which i hoped would - did was i made a choice to work for a business which i hoped would bel a business which i hoped would be the uk _ a business which i hoped would be the uk success _ a business which i hoped would be the uk success story _ a business which i hoped would be the uk success story and - a business which i hoped would be the uk success story and many - a business which i hoped would be - the uk success story and many people believe _ the uk success story and many people believe that _ the uk success story and many people believe that it — the uk success story and many people believe that it would _ the uk success story and many people believe that it would and _ the uk success story and many people believe that it would and i _ the uk success story and many people believe that it would and i wanted - believe that it would and i wanted to help _ believe that it would and i wanted to help the — believe that it would and i wanted to help the client _ believe that it would and i wanted to help the client —— _ believe that it would and i wanted to help the client —— company- believe that it would and i wanted i to help the client —— company grow and expand — to help the client —— company grow and exoand and _ to help the client —— company grow and expand and let— to help the client —— company grow and expand and let i— to help the client —— company grow and expand and let i did _ to help the client —— company grow and expand and let i did at - 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lobbying government or senior government officials for access for the company to government funding schemes. what they also wanted to know was was his not being driven by his own interests? the amount of pay he was getting from the company. reports have said that he had share options in the company which could have delivered millions to him if he had been able to cash there was in and they are worthless. he was asked exactly how much he was getting from the farm. i exactly how much he was getting from the farm. ., , exactly how much he was getting from the farm. . , ,., , the farm. i was well-paid. in terms ofthe the farm. i was well-paid. in terms of the annual— the farm. i was well-paid. in terms of the annual amount _ the farm. i was well-paid. in terms of the annual amount and - the farm. i was well-paid. in terms of the annual amount and i - the farm. i was well-paid. in terms of the annual amount and i have i of the annual amount and i have these _ of the annual amount and i have these chairs _ of the annual amount and i have these chairs. as _ of the annual amount and i have these chairs. as i _ of the annual amount and i have these chairs. as i set _ of the annual amount and i have these chairs. as i set the - of the annual amount and i have . these chairs. as i set the chairman ithink— these chairs. as i set the chairman i think it's — these chairs. as i set the chairman i think it's important _ these chairs. as i set the chairman i think it's important for— these chairs. as i set the chairman i think it's important for the - i think it's important for the committee _ i think it's important for the committee to— i think it's important for the committee to now - i think it's important for the committee to now i - i think it's important for the committee to now i have i i think it's important for the i committee to now i have that economic— committee to now i have that economic interest, _ committee to now i have that economic interest, i- committee to now i have that economic interest, i was - committee to now i have that - economic interest, i was connected to the _ economic interest, i was connected to the company— economic interest, i was connected to the company and _ economic interest, i was connected to the company and i— economic interest, i was connected to the company and i wanted - economic interest, i was connected to the company and i wanted to - economic interest, i was connected i to the company and i wanted to work for them _ to the company and i wanted to work for them and — to the company and i wanted to work for them and all— to the company and i wanted to work for them and all the _ to the company and i wanted to work for them and all the questions - for them and all the questions von're — for them and all the questions you're asking _ for them and all the questions you're asking and _ for them and all the questions you're asking and addressing i for them and all the questionsl you're asking and addressing in for them and all the questions - you're asking and addressing in your committee _ you're asking and addressing in your committee about— you're asking and addressing in your committee about lobbying _ you're asking and addressing in your committee about lobbying and - you're asking and addressing in your committee about lobbying and the l committee about lobbying and the behaviour— committee about lobbying and the behaviour and _ committee about lobbying and the behaviour and what _ committee about lobbying and the behaviour and what they _ committee about lobbying and the behaviour and what they should i committee about lobbying and the | behaviour and what they should do and how _ behaviour and what they should do and how the — behaviour and what they should do and how the treasury— behaviour and what they should do and how the treasury works, - behaviour and what they should do and how the treasury works, i - behaviour and what they should doi and how the treasury works, i don't and how the treasury works, idon't think— and how the treasury works, idon't think they— and how the treasury works, i don't think they are — and how the treasury works, i don't think they are affected _ and how the treasury works, i don't think they are affected by _ and how the treasury works, i don't think they are affected by the - think they are affected by the amount— think they are affected by the amount of— think they are affected by the amount of it _

think they are affected by the amount of it himself- think they are affected by the amount of it himself i- think they are affected by the amount of it himself i don't. amount of it himself i don't consider— amount of it himself i don't consider that— amount of it himself i don't consider that a _ amount of it himself i don't consider that a private - amount of it himself i don't. consider that a private matter. amount of it himself i don't- consider that a private matter. he said he consider that a private matter. said he believed in a came consider that a private matter. i—ir; said he believed in a came to lobbying he thought they could be some tightening of the rules so they thought it could be better direction and what sort ofjobs they may take up and what sort ofjobs they may take up possibly with some sort of mandating in—house for companies lobbying which does not exist academic and with the end of the session and he would have thought he would have demeaned himself and he repeated he thought he was trying to help in a crisis.— help in a crisis. let's talk about the business _ help in a crisis. let's talk about the business side _ help in a crisis. let's talk about the business side of _ help in a crisis. let's talk about the business side of this - help in a crisis. let's talk about the business side of this as - help in a crisis. let's talk about. the business side of this as well. he is with me and you and it's allowed to act. what stood out to

you. that allowed to act. what stood out to ou. �* ., , ., allowed to act. what stood out to ou. ~ ., ,., ~ ., you. at what point did he know the business was _ you. at what point did he know the business was in _ you. at what point did he know the business was in trouble _ you. at what point did he know the business was in trouble and - you. at what point did he know the business was in trouble and that i you. at what point did he know the| business was in trouble and that he coincide with a period of his intense lobbying. he said along with his boss who is paying him to do this lobbying and they agreed at the time of the intense lobbying, march, april, may, dozens of e—mails, text, etc, they could not think the company itself was in any difficulty. however. what they do i think is a thought that financial markets is that the pandemic was breaking out in some of the customers to which they relenting might be in trouble which would have included for gfd alliance and he said we nearly had a big concentration risk and 70% of all the landing they were doing was going to a single borrower and that single borrower is considered to be financially not the strongest possible credits and would be facing massive difficulty and some customers who are airline, etc. so

it seems incurious at best to not think that, hang on a second, is this not going to have some knock on effect who a stick between the investors on the one side, borrower is on the other, when they finally went bust eight left both of them in the lurch and it seems extraordinary that neither of them thought that as these difficulties and the financial markets and small companies are going bust left, right command centre that at some point they would not be under enormous pressure. at the time they were pushing for the lobbying. they may have been right about that but a lot of people who know boardroom politics say i can't see a that that would not have been a red flag at boardroom level and the whole thing depended on this insurance policy. the company had taken out in case anyone they link it to went bust. that insurance policy would be with john it to went bust. that insurance policy would be withjohn at it to went bust. that insurance policy would be with john at the it to went bust. that insurance policy would be withjohn at the end of february of this year and the whole thing came crashing down. the idea they want a big warning signs saying what about this insurance policy if it is not renewed we have

a serious problem here. it will strike some people as hard to believe, perhaps a bit strong, but not what you would expect from a business of that size. find not what you would expect from a business of that size.— business of that size. and a quick thou . ht business of that size. and a quick thought about — business of that size. and a quick thought about white _ business of that size. and a quick thought about white people - business of that size. and a quick thought about white people who l business of that size. and a quick- thought about white people who might have been watching that session this afternoon with think why does this matter to me? i don't work in the world of finance, i don't know what this company is, i don't know what this company is, i don't know what this company is, i don't know what this company was trying to do. why ultimately does it matter in terms of the lobbying and all those texts that went on? i of the lobbying and all those texts that went on?— of the lobbying and all those texts that went on? i think some people this aoes that went on? i think some people this goes to _ that went on? i think some people this goes to the _ that went on? i think some people this goes to the probing _ that went on? i think some people this goes to the probing of - that went on? i think some people this goes to the probing of the - this goes to the probing of the system. is it ok for a former prime minister to ring up using first name terms. i am talking to richie first thing in the morning if this does not work, if i get stuck with him, can you help. these are channels not open to anyone. it's being raised. other people would say to expect that what you think for ministers do? they are not hired by a business fighter anecdote and their good jokes, they are hired to gain influence and favour. this looks

like a brazen example of that. but it would be interesting to see whether some of the rules about the roles that former politicians can take up our titan. he saw that the watchdog for what you can do at their office was working well. i have to say of all the people who questioned, he's the only person so far including the chairman and other senior civil servants who think the current system is working well enough. current system is working well enouah. ., ~ current system is working well enouah. ., ,, i. current system is working well enouah. ., ~' ,, , current system is working well enouah. ., ~ , . nearly 5 million people are waiting for hospital treatment in england — the highest figure since records began. more than 430 thousand have been waiting for more than a year. these new figures show the impact that the covid pandemic has had on the health service, as routine treatment was put on hold. nhs england has allocated 160 million pounds to fund extra clinics at weekends,

and virtual assessments, as part of a trial scheme to help tackle the backlog. victoria derbyshire is at guy's hospital in london. let's take a closer look now at the waiting times in england. our correspondent nick triggle has this assessment. i'v e i've talked to a number of patients and they came up with a solution and broadly speaking it's actually extending treatment hours into the evenings and asking staff to work weekends. and operating over the weekend. a number of novel solutions up weekend. a number of novel solutions up and down the country. all different kinds of things up in talking to this afternoon in particular staff and patients the cancer centre and have a look. here at the cancer _ cancer centre and have a look. here at the cancer centre _ cancer centre and have a look. here at the cancer centre in _ cancer centre and have a look. here at the cancer centre in central london we are in the radiotherapy sleep and we are going to talk to to patients who are going to be radiotherapy. hello to you francis, how are you? and we have gotjun as well. hellojune. thank you for talking to us and we had andrew who is the treatment you need therapy

radio buffer. tell how this massive radiotherapy machine works. this machine delivers _ radiotherapy machine works. t�*i 3 machine delivers x—rays, radiation through the head of the machine. the beam comes out on targets of specific areas of the body. the machine will spin 360 degrees. it patients with me on this couch which can manoeuvre and go up under the machine and the machine spins around. it goes slowly and delivers radiation as it moves or it can be static and delivered radiation to specific areas as planned. throughout this pandemic and as we emerge from covid—i9, how has that impacted on radiotherapy treatment for your patience? irate impacted on radiotherapy treatment for your patience?— for your patience? we have adapted our working — for your patience? we have adapted our working practices _ for your patience? we have adapted our working practices to _ for your patience? we have adapted our working practices to meet - for your patience? we have adapted our working practices to meet the l our working practices to meet the challenges that we face and obviously, with the pandemic we have had a strict code of environment for patients. we all wear ppe, the

patients. we all wear ppe, the patients are directed towards the exits and entrances for patients. we do treat an extra patients that are known to have covid—i9. they are isolated in a separate area and a separate machine have to come to a separate machine have to come to a separate entrance and we get specialised transport to take into land from the cancer centre said they don't use public transport and we have limited during the peak of the pandemic, we limited the number of people that come into the cancer centre because there are generally more cancer patients that are more vulnerable than other patients sell unless it's absolutely necessary we are not allowed visitors to come into the building at the time. occasionally some patients where allowed to come in with a carer and

we have adapted our consultation. some of them have done face—to—face and some of the patient�*s have had their treatments and appointment schedules to suit the various requirements. let schedules to suit the various requirements.— schedules to suit the various requirements. schedules to suit the various reauirements. , g requirements. let me bring in june and francis- _ requirements. let me bring in june and francis. june, _ requirements. let me bring in june and francis. june, you _ requirements. let me bring in june and francis. june, you are - requirements. let me bring in june and francis. june, you are early - and francis. june, you are early diagnosed in march. what cancer will you diagnosed with?— diagnosed in march. what cancer will you diagnosed with? regina cancer. i and ou to you diagnosed with? regina cancer. i and you to have _ you diagnosed with? regina cancer. i and you to have a _ you diagnosed with? regina cancer. i and you to have a total _ you diagnosed with? regina cancer. i and you to have a total of _ you diagnosed with? regina cancer. i and you to have a total of 31 - you diagnosed with? regina cancer. i and you to have a total of 31 spread l and you to have a total of 31 spread over several weeks and have gone into my second week. so we are eight days, nine days. haifa into my second week. so we are eight days. nine days-— days, nine days. how is it going so far? absolutely _ days, nine days. how is it going so far? absolutely fine. _ days, nine days. how is it going so far? absolutely fine. what - days, nine days. how is it going so far? absolutely fine. what do - days, nine days. how is it going so far? absolutely fine. what do you | far? absolutely fine. what do you make of the _ far? absolutely fine. what do you make of the staff _ far? absolutely fine. what do you make of the staff here. _ far? absolutely fine. what do you make of the staff here. they - far? absolutely fine. what do you make of the staff here. they are l make of the staff here. they are brilliant. nothing _ make of the staff here. they are brilliant. nothing is _ make of the staff here. they are brilliant. nothing is too - make of the staff here. they are brilliant. nothing is too much i brilliant. nothing is too much trouble for them. they explain

everything. so much patients. they are fantastic.— are fantastic. when you wear diagnosed. _ are fantastic. when you wear diagnosed, it _ are fantastic. when you wear diagnosed, it was _ are fantastic. when you wear diagnosed, it was not - are fantastic. when you wear diagnosed, it was not that i are fantastic. when you wear| diagnosed, it was not that on are fantastic. when you wear- diagnosed, it was not that on ago was it? ., diagnosed, it was not that on ago was it? trio. getting a cancer was it? no. getting a cancer diagnosis — was it? no. getting a cancer diagnosis is _ was it? i457. getting a cancer diagnosis is able well, let's be honest. but then was any part of your anxious because of covid—i9 about coming to a hospital for treatment?— about coming to a hospital for treatment?_ why i about coming to a hospital for. treatment?_ why were about coming to a hospital for- treatment?_ why were you treatment? not at all. why were you so relaxed about _ treatment? not at all. why were you so relaxed about that? _ treatment? not at all. why were you so relaxed about that? that - treatment? not at all. why were you so relaxed about that? that is - treatment? not at all. why were you so relaxed about that? that is me. l so relaxed about that? that is me. if ou're so relaxed about that? that is me. if you're going _ so relaxed about that? that is me. if you're going to _ so relaxed about that? that is me. if you're going to get _ so relaxed about that? that is me. if you're going to get something, l if you're going to get something, you are going to get it. whatever you are going to get it. whatever you do to protect yourself doesn't stop you getting things. ear; you do to protect yourself doesn't stop you getting things.— you do to protect yourself doesn't stop you getting things. say you are very pragmatic _ stop you getting things. say you are very pragmatic obviously. _ stop you getting things. say you are very pragmatic obviously. yes. - stop you getting things. say you are very pragmatic obviously. yes. tell| very pragmatic obviously. yes. tell us what cancer _ very pragmatic obviously. yes. tell us what cancer you _ very pragmatic obviously. jazz tell us what cancer you have been diagnosed with and when it was you were diagnosed.— diagnosed with and when it was you were diagnosed. cancer in the lung. that was the — were diagnosed. cancer in the lung. that was the end _ were diagnosed. cancer in the lung. that was the end of _ were diagnosed. cancer in the lung. that was the end of february. - were diagnosed. cancer in the lung. that was the end of february. howl that was the end of february. how did ou that was the end of february. how did you react _ that was the end of february. how did you react to — that was the end of february. firm" did you react to getting that diagnosis? i did you react to getting that diagnosis?— did you react to getting that diaunosis? ~' ., , ,., diagnosis? i knew it was something serious, i thought _ diagnosis? i knew it was something serious, i thought it _ diagnosis? i knew it was something serious, i thought it was _ diagnosis? i knew it was something serious, i thought it was my - diagnosis? i knew it was something serious, i thought it was my heart. | serious, i thought it was my heart.

but it— serious, i thought it was my heart. but it wasn't. after the tests, it's 'ust but it wasn't. after the tests, it's just one — but it wasn't. after the tests, it's just one of— but it wasn't. after the tests, it's just one of those things. one into people _ just one of those things. one into people get it now. and those two people _ people get it now. and those two people live in my house and it happened to be me. that people live in my house and it happened to be me.— people live in my house and it happened to be me. that is mostly because we — happened to be me. that is mostly because we are _ happened to be me. that is mostly because we are living _ happened to be me. that is mostly because we are living longer- happened to be me. that is mostly because we are living longer as - because we are living longer as well. so you have had chemotherapy. you are telling me earlier. how many sessions have you had? i’ge you are telling me earlier. how many sessions have you had?— sessions have you had? i've had three and _ sessions have you had? i've had three and my — sessions have you had? i've had three and my last _ sessions have you had? i've had three and my last one _ sessions have you had? i've had three and my last one is - sessions have you had? i've had three and my last one is next i sessions have you had? i've had i three and my last one is next week. so that— three and my last one is next week. so that would be for sessions. how do ou so that would be for sessions. how do you feel — so that would be for sessions. how do you feel about _ so that would be for sessions. firm" do you feel about the fact that if your last one?— do you feel about the fact that if your last one? i've been looking for the 20th of — your last one? i've been looking for the 20th of may _ your last one? i've been looking for the 20th of may to _ your last one? i've been looking for the 20th of may to get _ your last one? i've been looking for the 20th of may to get that - your last one? i've been looking for the 20th of may to get that out i your last one? i've been looking for the 20th of may to get that out of l the 20th of may to get that out of the 20th of may to get that out of the way — the 20th of may to get that out of the way. in the 20th of may to get that out of the wa . , ., ., , the 20th of may to get that out of thewa. ,., the way. in terms of the way you have been _ the way. in terms of the way you have been treated _ the way. in terms of the way you have been treated here, - the way. in terms of the way you have been treated here, in i the way. in terms of the way you | have been treated here, in terms the way. in terms of the way you i have been treated here, in terms of staff, in terms of any anxieties you had, how would you describe all of that? , ., had, how would you describe all of that? y ., , ., . ., that? they have been fantastic. no worries at all. _ that? they have been fantastic. no worries at all. you _ that? they have been fantastic. no worries at all. you come _ that? they have been fantastic. no worries at all. you come into - that? they have been fantastic. no worries at all. you come into the i

worries at all. you come into the hospital. — worries at all. you come into the hospital, everyone gets a mask they had to— hospital, everyone gets a mask they had to been marvellous. in terms of radiotherapy under that machine that finishes _ radiotherapy under that machine that finishes next thursday. mary several weeks _ finishes next thursday. mary several weeks. so _ finishes next thursday. mary several weeks. ., ., ., _ , , weeks. so radiotherapy finishes next thursday and — weeks. so radiotherapy finishes next thursday and chemotherapy - weeks. so radiotherapy finishes next thursday and chemotherapy finishes | thursday and chemotherapy finishes next friday. so that is very treatment that you are done with. fingers crossed. find treatment that you are done with. fingers crossed.— treatment that you are done with. fingers crossed. and then a month later all restrictions _ fingers crossed. and then a month later all restrictions will _ fingers crossed. and then a month later all restrictions will be - later all restrictions will be lifted and then you what? see my arents. i lifted and then you what? see my parents. i have _ lifted and then you what? see my parents. i have not _ lifted and then you what? see my parents. i have not seen - lifted and then you what? see my parents. i have not seen my i lifted and then you what? see my i parents. i have not seen my parents for 14 _ parents. i have not seen my parents for 14 months now. how parents. i have not seen my parents for 14 months now.— parents. i have not seen my parents for 14 months now. how do they feel about their daughter _ for 14 months now. how do they feel about their daughter having - for 14 months now. how do they feel about their daughter having cancer? | about their daughter having cancer? i haven't told them. because my dad is in his— i haven't told them. because my dad is in his late — i haven't told them. because my dad is in his late 80s and my mother has -ot is in his late 80s and my mother has got dementia and he has got her to look after~ — got dementia and he has got her to look after. so i will tell him next week _ look after. so i will tell him next week. when i am done.- look after. so i will tell him next week. when i am done. what a doctor ou are. week. when i am done. what a doctor you are- good — week. when i am done. what a doctor you are. good luck _ week. when i am done. what a doctor you are. good luck francis. _ week. when i am done. what a doctor you are. good luck francis. thank i you are. good luck francis. thank

you are. good luck francis. thank you so much for talking to us. june, good luck, wish you all the best. and you all the best. i was anxious at the end of that. i said to her if we will put this on tv, your parents make the ape. don't worry, they only watch colombo. she wasn'tjoking. apparently they only watch colombo on repeat. she assured us it was ok to put it on tv and she will tell her mum and dad next week when the treatment is over. let me introduce you to a doctor who is an oncologist and medical directorfor you to a doctor who is an oncologist and medical director for cancer and surgery and catherine who is a nurse consultant and essentially there is no backlog here when it comes to cancer patients. tell us why. what kind of things have you come up with in the past year. one of the things we have done is recklessjohn ambulance to develop a mobile cancer service so that we can keep treating our patients and keep them safe by reducing the number of visits to the cancer centre. brute

reducing the number of visits to the cancer centre-— cancer centre. we have gone across south east _ cancer centre. we have gone across south east london _ cancer centre. we have gone across south east london and _ cancer centre. we have gone across south east london and to _ cancer centre. we have gone across south east london and to be - cancer centre. we have gone across south east london and to be part i cancer centre. we have gone across south east london and to be part of our service in supermarket car parks and patients can park in the car park or come by public transport if they need to and we send our nurses out on the ambulance and they take patient blood and they do centreline dressings and a lot of the care that is given if needed about two days in advance of the chemotherapy so it's really great by saving them a visit. and what about yourself in terms of the way you have managed to carry on essentially throughout the pandemic and as we emerge from covid—19? brute and as we emerge from covid-19? we are and as we emerge from covid—19? we are incredibly proud of what we have achieved _ are incredibly proud of what we have achieved and the same goes for other cancer— achieved and the same goes for other cancer centres around the country. chemotherapy and radiotherapy has been able _ chemotherapy and radiotherapy has been able to continue and catherine describe _ been able to continue and catherine describe one example and there are many— describe one example and there are many others so about 20,000 patients a month— many others so about 20,000 patients a month that their medication that way and _ a month that their medication that way and like many other hospitals

are doing — way and like many other hospitals are doing virtual consultation so that we — are doing virtual consultation so that we are reducing bedtimes they have to _ that we are reducing bedtimes they have to come into the hospital and also although we continue to give all of— also although we continue to give all of the — also although we continue to give all of the same accident chemotherapy and radiotherapy treatments be able to amend and incite _ treatments be able to amend and incite the — treatments be able to amend and incite the different ways which means — incite the different ways which means patients don't have to come to the hospital— means patients don't have to come to the hospital so frequently. what about and many _ the hospital so frequently. what about and many of— the hospital so frequently. what about and many of of— the hospital so frequently. what about and many of of the - the hospital so frequently. twat about and many of of the hour of the hospital so frequently. wisgt about and many of of the hour of us policy stories or experienced it themselves those people who are not presenting with symptoms that could be cancer symptoms. they are essentially missing patients are they? you're absolutely right. there are 45,000 — they? you're absolutely right. there are 45,000 patients _ they? you're absolutely right. there are 45,000 patients as _ they? you're absolutely right. there are 45,000 patients as compared with the previous year and for us that it equates— the previous year and for us that it equates to — the previous year and for us that it equates to about 500 patients. i guess— equates to about 500 patients. i guess i_ equates to about 500 patients. i guess i have an opportunity now to speak— guess i have an opportunity now to speak to _ guess i have an opportunity now to speak to the audience please if you do have _ speak to the audience please if you do have symptoms seek medical advice _ do have symptoms seek medical advice. the first port of call would be your— advice. the first port of call would be your gp — advice. the first port of call would be your gp and we also have an award winning _ be your gp and we also have an award winning rapid — be your gp and we also have an award winning rapid diagnostic centre so gps can— winning rapid diagnostic centre so gps can refer patients and for

urgent — gps can refer patients and for urgent diagnosis and also if you get a letter— urgent diagnosis and also if you get a letter inviting for a screening for prostate or bowel cancer please take up _ for prostate or bowel cancer please take up that opportunity. cancer is curable _ take up that opportunity. cancer is curable it — take up that opportunity. cancer is curable it is — take up that opportunity. cancer is curable it is caught early.- curable it is caught early. briefly he would echo _ curable it is caught early. briefly he would echo that _ curable it is caught early. briefly he would echo that would - curable it is caught early. briefly he would echo that would you? | curable it is caught early. briefly i he would echo that would you? yes. we have got — he would echo that would you? yes we have got ground—breaking treatments now sell in the last 20 years there in a much better position to cure our patients. tremendous work. it's amazing. thank you. israeli ground troops are massing on the border with gaza after another night of violence. palestinian militants have fired dozens more rockets into israel, while israeli air strikes have targeted senior commanders in gaza and brought down another tower block.

there have also been further street clashes between israeli arabs and jews. health officials say more than 80 palestinians have died since monday, and seven israelis have been killed. paul adams reports from jerusalem. a conflict taking a dangerous new turn. on the mixed streets of israel, jews and arabs attacking each other, the country's president calling it a senseless civil war. in bat yam, south of tel aviv, an arab driver was pulled from his car and badly beaten. some of the images are too graphic to show. in the mixed city of lod, gangs ofjewish youths roam the streets, scenes increasingly commonplace in recent weeks. there is a violence from the other side too. jews set upon, a synagogue torched, communities living in fear.

translation: they heard that my accent was not i arab, ran up to my car— and they started throwing stones. i was lucky there were no cars behind so i reversed. - i almost ran into people and cars. i didn't see anything. israel's uneasy social compact is coming apart at the seams, on streets wherejews and arabs live side by side. the prime minister accused of sowing division in the past, now condemning both sides. translation: nothing canjustify a lynching ofjews by arabs - and nothing canjustify- a lynching of arabs byjews. we will not accept this. nor are there any signs to an end to the violence between israel and hamas. the militant organisation continues to fire rockets deep into israel. they are indiscriminate, civilians invariably pay the price. israel's air strikes on gaza are more precise but they are relentless and in this densely packed place, the civilian death toll continues to rise. translation: we heard people

shouting in the streets telling i us to leave our house, _ the apartment building next to us was about to be bombed. we decided to leave everything behind and just flee. _ we ran out into the street. this conflict is now raging on several fronts. rarely in recent years has intercommunal violence erupted on the streets of israel at the same time as fighting between israel and the palestinians. it's an alarming development. after speaking to israel's prime minister, joe biden sounded optimistic. my expectation and hope is that this will be... ..closing down sooner than later, but israel has a right to defend itself when you have thousands of rockets flying into your territory. it's not clear what president biden means. israel is warning of a possible ground operation, with troops massing along gaza's border. if it happens, the conflict will get much bloodier before it ends. our correspondent — rushdi abu—aloaf is in gaza.

in the last hour, he sent this update on the escalating violence. a huge barrage of rockets have just been fired from gaza. we could hear in the background that is really defence system trying to intersect those rockets. this is the scene not only now but last night and throughout this morning but in the last half an hour the fighting was intensified and the israeli air strikes were targeting houses in the middle of gaza and their ministry officials said that four people have been killed including a woman named the most recent air strikes and over 150 rockets where required and tonnes of israeli air strikes targeted and they say it but off sometimes they're getting reports from health ministry and from locals

that also civilian targets were involved. well — as we've heard — one of the places that saw clashes betweenjewish and arab israelis overnight, was the town of lod — which is around 15 kilometres south—east of tel aviv — our correspondent yolande knell is there. you have got seems like this, it looks like a war man. got burnt out cars. curb stones are being ripped up cars. curb stones are being ripped up in all the rioting taking place and there are scorched buildings just along the street here a jewish school was set on fire next to the synagogue. and now, there is a lot of parties all around on the street corners. residents are very nervous. i spoke to onejewish mother. she told me that she had always known there were tensions here. she felt they were very much under the surface and under control. he spoke to some of the arab residents and palestinian citizens of israel. they say they have known there was this

anger under the surface ready to erupt at any time. they have felt like there was discrimination against them and there were second—class citizens of israel. at the same time as all of this is playing out locally. we had remind us of the conflict still going on between israel and militants in gaza with rockets fired from the gaza strip and thatjust made loud explosions over our heads. we are keeping an eye on all the developments there in the middle east. we are going to return to the point of entry issues because they determine who we have been talking about at the start of the hour is giving evidence to another committee. he is in front of the public accounts committee. all of the fallout we were discussing around that green sale collapse of course since he sent all of the texts and whatsapp we have been hearing about over the last couple of hours. that is here a bit of him giving evidence as you see to the public accounts committee. for the

very reasons _ public accounts committee. for the very reasons you've _ public accounts committee. for the very reasons you've already - public accounts committee. for the very reasons you've already laid i very reasons you've already laid out, the impact of the out the money and pay the interest. i out, the impact of the out the money and pay the interest.— and pay the interest. i think they know, of course, _ and pay the interest. i think they know, of course, if— and pay the interest. i think they know, of course, if you - and pay the interest. i think they know, of course, if you are i and pay the interest. i think they know, of course, if you are using supply—chain finance, the treasury aren't— supply—chain finance, the treasury aren't paying, that's the whole point — aren't paying, that's the whole point we _ aren't paying, that's the whole point. we need to supply chain finance — point. we need to supply chain finance for instance at the moment, the nhs _ finance for instance at the moment, the nhs pharmacies are being paid by the nhs pharmacies are being paid by the for— the nhs pharmacies are being paid by the for the _ the nhs pharmacies are being paid by the for the company went under, they would _ the for the company went under, they would be _ the for the company went under, they would be paid immediately by green sale and _ would be paid immediately by green sale and that government the nhs was paying _ sale and that government the nhs was paying green sale back after 30 or 60 days — paying green sale back after 30 or 60 days. so it was not treasury money — 60 days. so it was not treasury money i— 60 days. so it was not treasury money. i think that reluctance and the treasury relates to two points which _ the treasury relates to two points which are — the treasury relates to two points which are both important points. what _ which are both important points. what is — which are both important points. what is if— which are both important points. what is if you do pay very early that means you are borrowing more money— that means you are borrowing more money and — that means you are borrowing more money and paying an interest charge on it _ money and paying an interest charge on it i_ money and paying an interest charge on it ithink— money and paying an interest charge on it. i think the second point is

they— on it. i think the second point is they are — on it. i think the second point is they are nervous about using an outside — they are nervous about using an outside supply because the government plus plus cost of money is no more _ government plus plus cost of money is no more than anybody else's. but of course _ is no more than anybody else's. but of course that government cost of money _ of course that government cost of money is — of course that government cost of money is not always transferred from the treasury — money is not always transferred from the treasury to individual departments. individual departments cost _ in _

that i can have a desk in the cabinet of a with no salary and yet off the official radar. assuming you must have had passed but how did it all come about? mr; must have had passed but how did it all come about?— must have had passed but how did it all come about? my understanding is that ureen all come about? my understanding is that green sale _ all come about? my understanding is that green sale was _ all come about? my understanding is that green sale was brought - all come about? my understanding is that green sale was brought in - all come about? my understanding is that green sale was brought in and i that green sale was brought in and known _ that green sale was brought in and known from previous jobs, jeremy hadm _ known from previous jobs, jeremy hadm he — known from previous jobs, jeremy had... he was conscious of the civil service _ had... he was conscious of the civil service can — had... he was conscious of the civil service can benefit from outside advice _ service can benefit from outside advice and — service can benefit from outside advice and my advice is to brought him in _ advice and my advice is to brought him in with— advice and my advice is to brought him in with a remix of looking at how government can do better without paying _ how government can do better without paying bills past to particularly place — paying bills past to particularly place and later it was an application for this approach and he had an— application for this approach and he had an office in the cabinet office. i'm had an office in the cabinet office. i'm sure _ had an office in the cabinet office. i'm sure i— had an office in the cabinet office. i'm sure i was informed he was coming — i'm sure i was informed he was coming and _ i'm sure i was informed he was coming and what i said yes that's how that — coming and what i said yes that's how that site is but i have not seen a paper— how that site is but i have not seen a papertrail— how that site is but i have not seen a paper trail for that. how that site is but i have not seen a papertrailforthat. in my experience he was given office and

brought— experience he was given office and brought in— experience he was given office and brought in and would have been reported — brought in and would have been reported in some way to the cabinet office _ reported in some way to the cabinet office as _ reported in some way to the cabinet office. �* , , ., reported in some way to the cabinet office. �* , ,, reported in some way to the cabinet office. ~ , i. ., reported in some way to the cabinet office. a ., , office. as you said to the treasury select committee _ office. as you said to the treasury select committee he _ office. as you said to the treasury select committee he was - office. as you said to the treasury select committee he was an i office. as you said to the treasury i select committee he was an amazingly fine civil servants and is no longer here to explain and defend himself. when mr green sale accompanied you to a federation of small business conference you gave him but i think is nowjust conference you gave him but i think is now just a conference you gave him but i think is nowjust a shout out saying where are you? give us a wave and he told the audience he is sorting out the whole supply—chain issue for us. so you clearly knew him quite well by that stage. that's 2014. three years on. but you recall liam fox's for registration measure to you over to his unpaid friend and in that ledger he said he had mistaken about his personal and professional responsibilities to become learned,

do you think perhaps the same happened? not at all, because my recollection is that— not at all, because my recollection is that between 2011 when mr greensill arrived in the government and between the time i stopped being prime _ and between the time i stopped being prime minister, i'm pretty certain i met him _ prime minister, i'm pretty certain i met him no— prime minister, i'm pretty certain i met him no more than twice, and i think— met him no more than twice, and i think two— met him no more than twice, and i think two times were when we met to discuss _ think two times were when we met to discuss the _ think two times were when we met to discuss the announcement in october 2012 of— discuss the announcement in october 2012 of the _ discuss the announcement in october 2012 of the initiative that ijust spoke — 2012 of the initiative that ijust spoke to— 2012 of the initiative that ijust spoke to sue jeffrey about, and i think— spoke to sue jeffrey about, and i think the — spoke to sue jeffrey about, and i think the second thing is when we went— think the second thing is when we went to _ think the second thing is when we went to this federation of small business — went to this federation of small business speech. i rememberthinking that the _ business speech. i rememberthinking that the supply chain finance initiative _ that the supply chain finance initiative was a good one, and i remember— initiative was a good one, and i remember the event initiative was a good one, and i rememberthe event in initiative was a good one, and i remember the event in downing street where _ remember the event in downing street where there were lots of uk corporate who how use this approach, and i corporate who how use this approach, and i liked _ corporate who how use this approach, and i liked it— corporate who how use this approach, and i liked it because we were in a credit— and i liked it because we were in a credit crunch at the time, and the bank— credit crunch at the time, and the bank were — credit crunch at the time, and the bank were not landing in a way that

we wanted — bank were not landing in a way that we wanted them to come and this was a way— we wanted them to come and this was a way of— we wanted them to come and this was a way of extending credit to small businesses, but effectively they were _ businesses, but effectively they were using vodafone's ability to borrow — were using vodafone's ability to borrow money to borrow money themselves. i think the shout out, if indeed _ themselves. i think the shout out, if indeed there was one, i have told about— if indeed there was one, i have told about it. _ if indeed there was one, i have told about it. so — if indeed there was one, i have told about it, so it must be true, this was _ about it, so it must be true, this was because i thought this was a good _ was because i thought this was a good initiative. but i don't think other— good initiative. but i don't think other wise — good initiative. but i don't think otherwise i had any interaction other wise i had any interaction with— other wise i had any interaction with lek— otherwise i had any interaction with lex greensill at all. and other wise i had any interaction with lex greensill at all. and that was 'ust with lex greensill at all. and that wasjust your _ with lex greensill at all. and that was just your natural _ with lex greensill at all. and that was just your natural born - with lex greensill at all. and that wasjust your natural born of- with lex greensill at all. and that wasjust your natural born of me | with lex greensill at all. and that l wasjust your natural born of me in was just your natural born of me in a crowd? i wasjust your natural born of me in a crowd? ~' ., ~' wasjust your natural born of me in a crowd? ~' ., ~ ,., , a crowd? i like to think so, but i don't actually — a crowd? i like to think so, but i don't actually recall— a crowd? i like to think so, but i don't actually recall it, - a crowd? i like to think so, but i don't actually recall it, but i i a crowd? i like to think so, but i | don't actually recall it, but i have been _ don't actually recall it, but i have been told. — don't actually recall it, but i have been told, so i'm sure it is true. thank— been told, so i'm sure it is true. thank you — been told, so i'm sure it is true. thank you very much, mr gardner. peter grant come over to you. thank ou, peter grant come over to you. thank you. chair- — peter grant come over to you. thank you. chair- good _ peter grant come over to you. thank you, chair. good afternoon, - peter grant come over to you. thank you, chair. good afternoon, mr- you, chair. good afternoon, mr cameron. can i move on to your decision a few years after you left office to go and work with greensill capital. what was it that attracted

to them rather than presumably one of a number of organisations that would have been keen to recruit you? i met up with mr greensill after i left office, and he told me about the business that he had created and was going. _ the business that he had created and was going, and i was looking at a number— was going, and i was looking at a number of. — was going, and i was looking at a number of, as i said in the treasury secretary— number of, as i said in the treasury secretary video, i had some problem in charity— secretary video, i had some problem in charity work with alzheimer's and dementia. _ in charity work with alzheimer's and dementia, and i wanted to do some business _ dementia, and i wanted to do some business interests as well. i took quite _ business interests as well. i took quite a _ business interests as well. i took quite a long time to make up my mind, _ quite a long time to make up my mind, but— quite a long time to make up my mind, but what i thought was interesting about greensill was there _ interesting about greensill was there is— interesting about greensill was there is a — interesting about greensill was there is a core product of going to bil there is a core product of going to big businesses and saying, let us pay your— big businesses and saying, let us pay your supply chains immediately and then— pay your supply chains immediately and then you pay us after 60 or 90 days, _ and then you pay us after 60 or 90 days, and — and then you pay us after 60 or 90 days, and in— and then you pay us after 60 or 90 days, and in the meantime, we raise the money— days, and in the meantime, we raise the money on — days, and in the meantime, we raise the money on the capital markets. what _ the money on the capital markets. what i _ the money on the capital markets. what i like — the money on the capital markets. what i like about that was it was

helping — what i like about that was it was helping small businesses with cash flow _ helping small businesses with cash flow to— helping small businesses with cash flow. to me, like many of these things. — flow. to me, like many of these things. it — flow. to me, like many of these things, it was taking one thing is that the — things, it was taking one thing is that the banks of always done very well and _ that the banks of always done very well and trying to make it better, cheaper. — well and trying to make it better, cheaper, faster, digital, paperless, and all— cheaper, faster, digital, paperless, and allthe — cheaper, faster, digital, paperless, and all the rest of it. so, it was, if you _ and all the rest of it. so, it was, if you like. — and all the rest of it. so, it was, if you like. a— and all the rest of it. so, it was, if you like, a uk success story, potentially. that is what i thought was interesting. i thought about it very hard — was interesting. i thought about it very hard before joining. was interesting. i thought about it very hard beforejoining. i was interesting. i thought about it very hard before joining. i did some dude _ very hard before joining. i did some dude dealings, but obviously i'm very sad — dude dealings, but obviously i'm very sad this company ultimately failed _ very sad this company ultimately failed. but that is what i was thinking _ failed. but that is what i was thinking. i was interested in, failed. but that is what i was thinking. iwas interested in, as prime _ thinking. iwas interested in, as prime minister i tried to make sure we were _ prime minister i tried to make sure we were a — prime minister i tried to make sure we were a fintech leader, and i thought— we were a fintech leader, and i thought it _ we were a fintech leader, and i thought it would be interesting to do more — thought it would be interesting to do more. ~ ., , thought it would be interesting to do more. ~ . , .,., thought it would be interesting to do more. ~ . , . ., do more. what is your decision and surveillance — do more. what is your decision and surveillance instead _ do more. what is your decision and surveillance instead by _ do more. what is your decision and surveillance instead by dealings i surveillance instead by dealings with mr greensill previously, or was it entirely the conversation she had after you left office? just

it entirely the conversation she had after you left office?— after you left office? just to be absolutely _ after you left office? just to be absolutely clear. _ after you left office? just to be absolutely clear. there - after you left office? just to be absolutely clear. there was i after you left office? just to be absolutely clear. there was no | absolutely clear. there was no conversation while i was in office with mr— conversation while i was in office with mr greensill about potentially working _ with mr greensill about potentially working for him. as i said, i met him— working for him. as i said, i met him twice — working for him. as i said, i met him twice and that was never raise. when _ him twice and that was never raise. when he _ him twice and that was never raise. when he did — him twice and that was never raise. when he did come to see me after i left office. — when he did come to see me after i left office, he talked about his business — left office, he talked about his business and then talked about me potentially being an adviser. the fact that — potentially being an adviser. the fact that i — potentially being an adviser. the fact that i had i known something in government that had taken up this technology and pays for it, that did have a _ technology and pays for it, that did have a bearing on my understanding of what _ have a bearing on my understanding of what he _ have a bearing on my understanding of what he was trying to do. it meant — of what he was trying to do. it meant i — of what he was trying to do. it meant i wasn't coming to this whole idea called. — meant i wasn't coming to this whole idea called, so that was a point of shared _ idea called, so that was a point of shared interest, if you like. he said. _ shared interest, if you like. he said. you — shared interest, if you like. he said, you seem to want to and understand what this industry is about— understand what this industry is about when you were prime minister, and also _ about when you were prime minister, and also i _ about when you were prime minister, and also i had the recollection of the announcement remade and what i thought— the announcement remade and what i thought of— the announcement remade and what i thought of it, positive effect. but there _ thought of it, positive effect. but there was — thought of it, positive effect. but there was nothing between the two events _

there was nothing between the two events. �* ., ., ~' there was nothing between the two events. �* ., ., events. and looking at it from the other side. _ events. and looking at it from the other side, apart _ events. and looking at it from the other side, apart from _ events. and looking at it from the other side, apart from the - events. and looking at it from the other side, apart from the fact i events. and looking at it from the | other side, apart from the fact that you were a former prime minister, what do you think they saw in you that make you better pick than a number of other people take it approach?— number of other people take it auroach? . , ., , ., approach? that is really a question for them rather _ approach? that is really a question for them rather than _ approach? that is really a question for them rather than me. - approach? that is really a question for them rather than me. i - approach? that is really a question for them rather than me. i think. for them rather than me. i think that, _ for them rather than me. i think that, you — for them rather than me. i think that, you know, as a company that was small— that, you know, as a company that was small but growing, that was competing with big banks, that wanted — competing with big banks, that wanted to expand internationally, that wanted to win over new clients, ithink— that wanted to win over new clients, i think that — that wanted to win over new clients, i think that was the attraction, was having _ i think that was the attraction, was having someone who would draw up their sleeves and help the expansion in china _ their sleeves and help the expansion in china or— their sleeves and help the expansion in china or india, help win clients in china or india, help win clients in australia — in china or india, help win clients in australia or america. it was very much _ in australia or america. it was very much about— in australia or america. it was very much about that. the public sector side of— much about that. the public sector side of all— much about that. the public sector side of all of that was very much later, _ side of all of that was very much later, when— side of all of that was very much later, when ijoined it was really focused — later, when ijoined it was really focused on — later, when ijoined it was really focused on winning these big corporate customers, and i think they— corporate customers, and i think they thought i would bring some enthusiasm and ability to that. what

should _ enthusiasm and ability to that. what should be _ enthusiasm and ability to that. what should be better to ask him. in enthusiasm and ability to that. what should be better to ask him.- should be better to ask him. in your evidence earlier, _ should be better to ask him. in your evidence earlier, he _ should be better to ask him. in your evidence earlier, he said _ should be better to ask him. in your evidence earlier, he said that - should be better to ask him. in your evidence earlier, he said that she i evidence earlier, he said that she wouldn't employed as a lobbyist, you were employed in a different role. but at some point, he effectively became a lobbyist, making representations to uk government ministers and others. he was at that initiated the process in which she became a lobbyist within the uk system as opposed to the role you were appointed to? i system as opposed to the role you were appointed to?— were appointed to? i think there were appointed to? i think there were two developments. - were appointed to? i think there were two developments. the i were appointed to? i think there l were two developments. the first were appointed to? i think there - were two developments. the first one was the _ were two developments. the first one was the potential economic crisis following — was the potential economic crisis following from covid, for suddenly the issue — following from covid, for suddenly the issue of how lending credit could — the issue of how lending credit could be — the issue of how lending credit could be supported became a very live issue. — could be supported became a very live issue, a very important issue for greensill, because we were funding — for greensill, because we were funding a — for greensill, because we were funding a lot of company supply chains — funding a lot of company supply chains i— funding a lot of company supply chains. i cut the member exactly how the conversation came about, but it was i _ the conversation came about, but it was i think— the conversation came about, but it

was i think really that we saw the bank— was i think really that we saw the bank of— was i think really that we saw the bank of england talk about helping to finance supply chains, we saw this scheme come about, and greensill— this scheme come about, and greensill thought, we have a great idea for— greensill thought, we have a great idea for improving it, and so the need _ idea for improving it, and so the need was — idea for improving it, and so the need was to try and get out in front of government, and i think that is what _ of government, and i think that is what i _ of government, and i think that is what i became involved. the second development was in thinking about how to _ development was in thinking about how to pay suppliers early, and why it was _ how to pay suppliers early, and why it was a _ how to pay suppliers early, and why it was a good thing, it was an obvious— it was a good thing, it was an obvious leap to say the most important supply of any business is the work— important supply of any business is the work force, and if you can use technology— the work force, and if you can use technology through companies' system to play— technology through companies' system to play suppliers early, why can't you use — to play suppliers early, why can't you use the same technology to enable — you use the same technology to enable workers to draw down the salary _ enable workers to draw down the salary as— enable workers to draw down the salary as they earn it rather than went— salary as they earn it rather than went to — salary as they earn it rather than went to the end of the month. i thought— went to the end of the month. i thought that was a fantastically exciting — thought that was a fantastically exciting development, and greensill decided _ exciting development, and greensill decided that, in the nhs, for instance _ decided that, in the nhs, for

instance and in the public sector, this should — instance and in the public sector, this should be done for free. free for employer and employee. any of the schemes that allowed salary advance — the schemes that allowed salary advance to companies, if you charge the employee even a small amount, it is still— the employee even a small amount, it is still a _ the employee even a small amount, it is still a big _ the employee even a small amount, it is still a big interest charge, so this was— is still a big interest charge, so this was always free, which attracted me a lot. but free to the employers — attracted me a lot. but free to the employers as well, i thought it was a tremendous impact to the nhs and public— a tremendous impact to the nhs and public sector workers, and i was very— public sector workers, and i was very keen — public sector workers, and i was very keen to talk about that. and so there _ very keen to talk about that. and so there is— very keen to talk about that. and so there is no— very keen to talk about that. and so there is no secret about that. i became — there is no secret about that. i became a _ there is no secret about that. i became a big explainer on a big enthusiast for it.— enthusiast for it. thank you, mr cameron- _ enthusiast for it. thank you, mr cameron. with _ enthusiast for it. thank you, mr cameron. with respect, - enthusiast for it. thank you, mr cameron. with respect, you - enthusiast for it. thank you, mr i cameron. with respect, you didn't answer the specific question, which was not about circumstances that made it appropriate to contact the government, but he was it that decided she would be the person to contact the government? did you suggested to them, or did you

suggested to them, or did you suggested to them, or did you suggested to them? i suggested to them, or did you suggested to them?— suggested to them, or did you su: rested to them? .., �* , suggested to them? i can't remember exactl . i suggested to them? i can't remember exactly- i exnect _ suggested to them? i can't remember exactly- i exnect it _ suggested to them? i can't remember exactly. i expect it came _ suggested to them? i can't remember exactly. i expect it came out - suggested to them? i can't remember exactly. i expect it came out of - suggested to them? i can't remember exactly. i expect it came out of a - exactly. i expect it came out of a conversation between me and mr greensill— conversation between me and mr greensill about how to try and make this government scheme work better. thank— this government scheme work better. thank you _ this government scheme work better. thank you very much. so bernard jenkin, mp. thank you very much. so bernard jenkin. mp.— jenkin, mp. this committee is concerned _ jenkin, mp. this committee is concerned not _ jenkin, mp. this committee is concerned not about - jenkin, mp. this committee is concerned not about the - jenkin, mp. this committee is i concerned not about the lobbying enquiry, we are concerned about value for money. but the revolving door question is of concern, because it perhaps compromises the value for money which people in public office might be able to obtain, because they are thinking in the future about what jobs they they are thinking in the future about whatjobs they might get. now, you have made very clear that that wasn't in your mind at all, and i perfectly accept that. but i think what we have to ask is, what message

do you think your appointment by mr greensill after he left government and went through all the proper procedures, but what message does that sound to officials and even ministers who might have been dealing with mr greensill at the time, about theirfuture dealing with mr greensill at the time, about their future employment prospects? if they were nice to mr greensill from that public office? do you understand the concern the tracey�*s? i do you understand the concern the trace 's? ., , ., tracey's? i do understand the concern- _ tracey's? i do understand the concern- i— tracey's? i do understand the concern. i think _ tracey's? i do understand the concern. i think all— tracey's? i do understand the concern. i think all i - tracey's? i do understand the concern. i think all i would i tracey's? i do understand the| concern. i think all i would say tracey's? i do understand the - concern. i think all i would say is, there _ concern. i think all i would say is, there is— concern. i think all i would say is, there is an — concern. i think all i would say is, there is an appointments process, are said _ there is an appointments process, are said to— there is an appointments process, are said to the treasury how you can improve _ are said to the treasury how you can improve it. — are said to the treasury how you can improve it, make it compulsory, make it enforceable, make change to the rules _ it enforceable, make change to the rules and _ it enforceable, make change to the rules and make them stronger. but i think that _ rules and make them stronger. but i think that it— rules and make them stronger. but i think that it would be odd if you... after— think that it would be odd if you... after due — think that it would be odd if you... after due to— think that it would be odd if you... after due to leave office, it is perfectly— after due to leave office, it is perfectly acceptable to take up some

commercial roles. there was a gap in terms _ commercial roles. there was a gap in terms of— commercial roles. there was a gap in terms of this — commercial roles. there was a gap in terms of this one. there was little that connection between me and mr greensill— that connection between me and mr greensill when i was in government, so it wasn't— greensill when i was in government, so it wasn't for me a particularly live consideration, because i was going _ live consideration, because i was going to — live consideration, because i was going to work with this company. it wasn't _ going to work with this company. it wasn't as— going to work with this company. it wasn't as if— going to work with this company. it wasn't as if there was some deep connection — wasn't as if there was some deep connection. i wasn't as if there was some deep connection-— connection. i don't think that... i am not making — connection. i don't think that... i am not making that _ connection. i don't think that... i am not making that accusation . connection. i don't think that... i| am not making that accusation at all. but i think we need to ask yourself how appropriate it is for people who have had dealings with a particular business while they were in office being subsequently employed by that business, not because there is definitely anything bad happening, orto because there is definitely anything bad happening, or to have happened, but because of the relationship, it

complicates in terms of... i complicates in terms of... i understand that. it is very difficult _ understand that. it is very difficult this, because i am sure you would — difficult this, because i am sure you would agree, you do want an interchange of people coming out of the private sector and into the public— the private sector and into the public sector, and the opposite. of the top _ public sector, and the opposite. of the top of— public sector, and the opposite. of the top of my head, if you think of someone — the top of my head, if you think of someone who worked in the treasury in the _ someone who worked in the treasury in the finance area, but that preclude _ in the finance area, but that preclude them from, when they lead after ten _ preclude them from, when they lead after ten or— preclude them from, when they lead after ten or 20 or 30 years, going and working — after ten or 20 or 30 years, going and working with banks? i can see the principle of what you are saying. _ the principle of what you are saying, but we have to think of the real world — saying, but we have to think of the real world examples, and then as a general— real world examples, and then as a general question... i am for interchange between public and private — interchange between public and private sectors, so you have to be careful— private sectors, so you have to be careful we — private sectors, so you have to be careful we don't make it impossible. i careful we don't make it impossible. i agree _ careful we don't make it impossible. i agree with — careful we don't make it impossible. i agree with that, but we produced a report while you were in office from the select committee which addressed all this, and restore these concerns. i am afraid it wasn't you

personally, but the government rejected all recommendations, now the chair suggesting it would us should be put onto the statute books, they should be a formal process because it is so much more interchange between business and government. and i hope when you appear in front of them that she will read that report and the subsequent report in 2017, i would say of rather better report, and that you would consider these issues before you appear in front of that committee, and i believe there at that point. i committee, and i believe there at that oint. , , ., committee, and i believe there at that oint. , i. . ,, that point. i will bring you back later. mr cameron, _ that point. i will bring you back later. mr cameron, he - that point. i will bring you back| later. mr cameron, he attended that point. i will bring you back - later. mr cameron, he attended the launch of the _ later. mr cameron, he attended the launch of the pharmacy _ later. mr cameron, he attended the launch of the pharmacy early - later. mr cameron, he attended the i launch of the pharmacy early payment scheme in 2012. two years after lex greensill had come into number ten. at what point did you become involved with that scheme? was it the normal sort of prime ministerial briefing just before the lunch, or had you been involved at an earlier stage in its design? i had you been involved at an earlier stage in its design?—

stage in its design? i don't have the paperwork. _ stage in its design? i don't have the paperwork, but— stage in its design? i don't have the paperwork, but my - stage in its design? i don't have the paperwork, but my guess i stage in its design? i don't have - the paperwork, but my guess would be that this _ the paperwork, but my guess would be that this initiative was marked up. it that this initiative was marked up. it would _ that this initiative was marked up. it would have gone into my box, and it would have gone into my box, and i would _ it would have gone into my box, and i would have — it would have gone into my box, and i would have agreed to it and agree to the _ i would have agreed to it and agree to the announcement probably at the same _ to the announcement probably at the same time _ to the announcement probably at the same time. that would be what i think— same time. that would be what i think would happen. and as i say, i was thinking — think would happen. and as i say, i was thinking it was a good piece of work, _ was thinking it was a good piece of work. and — was thinking it was a good piece of work, and for speaking i still do. so, work, and for speaking i still do. so. you — work, and for speaking i still do. so, you were well briefed on the scheme before you went to the launch in 2012. there was another four years at least after you book store prime minister. given that he works at lyrical both to the treasury select committee and this committee on the benefits of the scheme, why were there no other schemes? i on the benefits of the scheme, why were there no other schemes? i don't know the answer _ were there no other schemes? i don't know the answer to _ were there no other schemes? i don't know the answer to that. _ were there no other schemes? i don't know the answer to that. you - were there no other schemes? i don't know the answer to that. you were i know the answer to that. you were prime minister. _ know the answer to that. you were prime minister. supply _ know the answer to that. you were prime minister. supply chain - prime minister. supply chain finance, it's _ prime minister. supply chain finance, it's a _ prime minister. supply chain

finance, it's a relatively - prime minister. supply chain| finance, it's a relatively niche area — finance, it's a relatively niche area in— finance, it's a relatively niche area in life, and for a finance, it's a relatively niche area in life, and fora prime minister. _ area in life, and fora prime minister, it is very niche. and as i say. _ minister, it is very niche. and as i say. i— minister, it is very niche. and as i say, i was — minister, it is very niche. and as i say, i was more interested, minister, it is very niche. and as i say, iwas more interested, frankly, at that— say, iwas more interested, frankly, at that stage, and the private sector— at that stage, and the private sector commercial department, because — sector commercial department, because the pressure in government, if you _ because the pressure in government, if you rememberat because the pressure in government, if you remember at the time, was the economy— if you remember at the time, was the economy was beginning to restart, the lranks— economy was beginning to restart, the banks weren't slanting, and so there _ the banks weren't slanting, and so there was— the banks weren't slanting, and so there was the credit crunch, and so ideas _ there was the credit crunch, and so ideas that— there was the credit crunch, and so ideas that could get capital into the private sector so they could create — the private sector so they could create jobs were at a premium. that is why— create jobs were at a premium. that is why i_ create jobs were at a premium. that is why i was— create jobs were at a premium. that is why i was so keen on the scheme. but l'm _ is why i was so keen on the scheme. but l'm sorry— is why i was so keen on the scheme. but i'm sorry to give an unsatisfactory answer. i think it would _ unsatisfactory answer. i think it would be — unsatisfactory answer. i think it would be better to ask the cabinet office, _ would be better to ask the cabinet office, the treasury and perhaps mr greensill— office, the treasury and perhaps mr greensill himself... office, the treasury and perhaps mr greensill himself. . .— greensill himself... we're 'ust auoin to greensill himself... we're 'ust going to mi greensill himself... we're 'ust going to pull away i greensill himself... we're 'ust going to pull away for i greensill himself... we're just going to pull away for now. i greensill himself... we're just - going to pull away for now. former prime minister david cameron still giving evidence to that committee. our political correspondence keeping an eye and ear across all of that. it follows that more than two hour grilling he had from a separate

parliamentary committee this afternoon all about greensill capital, the finance company that he was lobbying for at the start of the pandemic last year, what you knew pine about the status of that company, because greensill has of course collapsed since then. we will keep an eye on that. doubtless much more on that on the six o'clock news. right now, we turn our attentions to the state of the nhs. we have been talking a lot today about waiting times, particularly in england, because at this data that we have. the highest levels on record, and we are reflecting all day on the effect of the pandemic on the nhs hospital treatment. victoria derbyshire has spent the day in london. let's return to her now. find london. let's return to her now. and those figures. _ london. let's return to her now. jifuc those figures, which were london. let's return to her now. a"ic those figures, which were published at 930 this morning are astounding. nearly 5 million people on the waiting list. writing this were increasingly gradually before the pandemic, and obviously it has exactly dated the length of the waiting list and the time that

people are waiting for treatment for things like routine operations — cataracts, knee surgery, hip replacements, that kind of stuff. guy's and st thomas one of the busiest trusts has around 70,000 people on the waiting list. but at the council but, they have managed by an urge to keep going with treatment for cancer patient. let me introduce you to lizzie, a mention here, and adrianna, a service manager. welcome to both of you. hopi manager. welcome to both of you. how have ou manager. welcome to both of you. how have you managed to keep going? it has been _ have you managed to keep going? it has been really challenging, but we have seen _ has been really challenging, but we have seen some great ones, the staff have seen some great ones, the staff have been— have seen some great ones, the staff have been resilient, we have been doing _ have been resilient, we have been doing lots— have been resilient, we have been doing lots of well—being with the staff, _ doing lots of well—being with the staff, so — doing lots of well—being with the staff, so that is kept everyone can, and just— staff, so that is kept everyone can, and just the — staff, so that is kept everyone can, and just the kind of general attitude _ and just the kind of general attitude has been great. how and just the kind of general attitude has been great. how has it been for you? _ attitude has been great. how has it been for you? similarly. _ attitude has been great. how has it been for you? similarly. it - attitude has been great. how has it been for you? similarly. it has - attitude has been great. how has it| been for you? similarly. it has been challenging. — been for you? similarly. it has been challenging, because _ been for you? similarly. it has been challenging, because you _ been for you? similarly. it has been challenging, because you wouldn't i challenging, because you wouldn't have your — challenging, because you wouldn't have your neutral— challenging, because you wouldn't have your neutral day—to—day - challenging, because you wouldn't have your neutral day—to—day life, j have your neutral day—to—day life, and personally— have your neutral day—to—day life, and personally for _ have your neutral day—to—day life, and personally for all _ have your neutral day—to—day life, and personally for all staff - have your neutral day—to—day life, and personally for all staff and - and personally for all staff and patients — and personally for all staff and patients it _ and personally for all staff and

patients it was _ and personally for all staff and patients it was really - and personally for all staff and . patients it was really challenging when _ patients it was really challenging when boot — patients it was really challenging when boot weren't _ patients it was really challenging when boot weren't allowing - patients it was really challenging. when boot weren't allowing visitors and we _ when boot weren't allowing visitors and we were — when boot weren't allowing visitors and we were trying _ when boot weren't allowing visitors and we were trying to _ when boot weren't allowing visitors and we were trying to ensure - when boot weren't allowing visitors| and we were trying to ensure safety as much— and we were trying to ensure safety as much as — and we were trying to ensure safety as much as patient _ and we were trying to ensure safety as much as patient care _ and we were trying to ensure safety as much as patient care as - and we were trying to ensure safety as much as patient care as safely i and we were trying to ensure safetyj as much as patient care as safely as we could _ as much as patient care as safely as we could tn— as much as patient care as safely as we could. , ., , .,, ., we could. in terms of people having articular we could. in terms of people having particular chemotherapy, _ we could. in terms of people having particular chemotherapy, which i we could. in terms of people having particular chemotherapy, which can| particular chemotherapy, which can take a number of hours, it can be up to eight hours sometimes, and the chemotherapy patient cannot have someone alongside them, reading or charting to them, orjust being there for a company. what has it been like for cancer patients? that has been one _ been like for cancer patients? that has been one of— been like for cancer patients? that has been one of the _ been like for cancer patients? that has been one of the hardest thing. it has been one of the hardest thing. it has _ has been one of the hardest thing. it has been — has been one of the hardest thing. it has been hard for the patients and carers — it has been hard for the patients and carers that want to attend. it has shown — and carers that want to attend. it has shown a great teamwork from the start that _ has shown a great teamwork from the start that they are able to kinda spend _ start that they are able to kinda spend time with the patient, making sure they— spend time with the patient, making sure they spend that extra time to kind of— sure they spend that extra time to kind of support them through the journey — kind of support them through the journey. from a management perspective, that has also been really— perspective, that has also been really challenging, because we have wanted _ really challenging, because we have wanted to _ really challenging, because we have wanted to allow the relatives in to support— wanted to allow the relatives in to support them, but we have had to, for safety _ support them, but we have had to, for safety purposes, stop that. but ithink— for safety purposes, stop that. but i think it _ for safety purposes, stop that. but i think it has againjust how great the teams — i think it has againjust how great the teams are and how complacent it

is -- _ the teams are and how complacent it is -- how— the teams are and how complacent it is —— how compassionate they are. if you is —— how compassionate they are. you go back is —— how compassionate they are. if you go back over a year, when covid was emerging, you got a really importantjob to do here, which is picking appointments for people who are getting cancer treatment, which is a life—saving treatment. what were your thoughts when we don't really know much about covid? mr; really know much about covid? my initial thought was, oh, really know much about covid? my initialthought was, oh, my really know much about covid? my initial thought was, oh, my god, what _ initial thought was, oh, my god, what are — initial thought was, oh, my god, what are we _ initial thought was, oh, my god, what are we going _ initial thought was, oh, my god, what are we going to _ initial thought was, oh, my god, what are we going to do? - initial thought was, oh, my god, i what are we going to do? because things— what are we going to do? because things were — what are we going to do? because things were changing _ what are we going to do? because things were changing so _ what are we going to do? because things were changing so quickly, l things were changing so quickly, sometimes — things were changing so quickly, sometimes within— things were changing so quickly, sometimes within a _ things were changing so quickly, sometimes within a few - things were changing so quickly, sometimes within a few hours, i things were changing so quickly, | sometimes within a few hours, it things were changing so quickly, i sometimes within a few hours, it was 'ust sometimes within a few hours, it was just about _ sometimes within a few hours, it was just about communicating _ sometimes within a few hours, it was just about communicating with - sometimes within a few hours, it was just about communicating with our i just about communicating with our staff, _ just about communicating with our staff, and — just about communicating with our staff, and are _ just about communicating with our staff, and are just _ just about communicating with our staff, and are just giving _ just about communicating with our staff, and are just giving daily- staff, and are just giving daily huddles, _ staff, and are just giving daily huddles, having _ staff, and are just giving daily huddles, having daily- staff, and are just giving daily. huddles, having daily briefings. initially, — huddles, having daily briefings. initially, it— huddles, having daily briefings. initially, it was _ huddles, having daily briefings. initially, it was what _ huddles, having daily briefings. initially, it was what are - huddles, having daily briefings. initially, it was what are we i huddles, having daily briefings. . initially, it was what are we going to do? _ initially, it was what are we going to do? but— initially, it was what are we going to do? but having _ initially, it was what are we going to do? but having advice - initially, it was what are we going to do? but having advice from i initially, it was what are we going i to do? but having advice from senior managers _ to do? but having advice from senior managers really— to do? but having advice from senior managers really help, _ to do? but having advice from senior managers really help, and _ to do? but having advice from senior managers really help, and i- to do? but having advice from senior managers really help, and i think- managers really help, and i think for us _ managers really help, and i think for us the — managers really help, and i think for us the most _ managers really help, and i think for us the most important - managers really help, and i think for us the most important thing i managers really help, and i think. for us the most important thing was ensuring _ for us the most important thing was ensuring that — for us the most important thing was ensuring that we _ for us the most important thing was ensuring that we were _ for us the most important thing was ensuring that we were safe, - for us the most important thing was ensuring that we were safe, and i for us the most important thing wasi ensuring that we were safe, and that the staff— ensuring that we were safe, and that the staff felt — ensuring that we were safe, and that the staff felt that _ ensuring that we were safe, and that the staff felt that they— ensuring that we were safe, and that the staff felt that they had _ ensuring that we were safe, and that the staff felt that they had all- ensuring that we were safe, and that the staff felt that they had all of- the staff felt that they had all of the staff felt that they had all of the information— the staff felt that they had all of the information they _ the staff felt that they had all of the information they needed. inj the information they needed. in order the information they needed. order to come to work and the information they needed.“ order to come to work and continue delivering that treatment? was it a point where you were anxious about delivering cancer treatment to patients?

delivering cancer treatment to atients? . ~ delivering cancer treatment to atients? ., ,, ., patients? yeah, i think we are honest and — patients? yeah, i think we are honest and say _ patients? yeah, i think we are honest and say there - patients? yeah, i think we are honest and say there are i patients? yeah, i think we are| honest and say there are times patients? yeah, i think we are i honest and say there are times we were _ honest and say there are times we were concerned for our friends and family— were concerned for our friends and family out— were concerned for our friends and family out of the hospital, but also our patients. and that relied on us as a team — our patients. and that relied on us as a team is — our patients. and that relied on us as a team is working very closely together, — as a team is working very closely together, coming up with new ideas and making changes really quickly to be able _ and making changes really quickly to be able to— and making changes really quickly to be able to keep the patient serve, and i_ be able to keep the patient serve, and i think— be able to keep the patient serve, and i think like adrianna mission, the communication was really important, making sure the staff and patients— important, making sure the staff and patients are well looked after, and our feedback said that they do, so that was— our feedback said that they do, so that was great. in our feedback said that they do, so that was great.— that was great. in terms of cancer atients that was great. in terms of cancer patients and _ that was great. in terms of cancer patients and their _ that was great. in terms of cancer patients and their backlog, i patients and their backlog, essentially, you kept it going, but there are backlogs in so many other areas. what would you say to people watching who need to come forward right now, because you are open. brute right now, because you are open. we are open. we have been open, and we are open. we have been open, and we are here— are open. we have been open, and we are here to— are open. we have been open, and we are here to support those patients and relatives through that journey. it is important people go to get help when they need it and see the appropriate people to get to the service — appropriate people to get to the service that we are able to support together~ — service that we are able to support touether. ~ ., ., i. _ together. what would you say, adrianna? _ together. what would you say, adrianna? l — together. what would you say, adrianna? i would _ together. what would you say, adrianna? i would echo i together. what would you say, adrianna? i would echo what l

together. what would you say, i adrianna? i would echo what lizzie is saying. — adrianna? i would echo what lizzie is saying. and— adrianna? i would echo what lizzie is saying. and in— adrianna? i would echo what lizzie is saying, and in terms— adrianna? i would echo what lizzie is saying, and in terms of- adrianna? i would echo what lizzie is saying, and in terms of guy's i adrianna? i would echo what lizzie i is saying, and in terms of guy's and st thomas — is saying, and in terms of guy's and st thomas is — is saying, and in terms of guy's and st thomas is and _ is saying, and in terms of guy's and st thomas is and the _ is saying, and in terms of guy's and st thomas is and the cancer- is saying, and in terms of guy's and | st thomas is and the cancer centre, we have _ st thomas is and the cancer centre, we have the — st thomas is and the cancer centre, we have the capacity _ st thomas is and the cancer centre, we have the capacity and _ st thomas is and the cancer centre, we have the capacity and we - st thomas is and the cancer centre, we have the capacity and we are i st thomas is and the cancer centre, i we have the capacity and we are able to treat _ we have the capacity and we are able to treat more — we have the capacity and we are able to treat more patients, _ we have the capacity and we are able to treat more patients, so— we have the capacity and we are able to treat more patients, so if- we have the capacity and we are able to treat more patients, so if people i to treat more patients, so if people are feeling — to treat more patients, so if people are feeling like _ to treat more patients, so if people are feeling like they _ to treat more patients, so if people are feeling like they have _ to treat more patients, so if people are feeling like they have got - to treat more patients, so if people are feeling like they have got any. are feeling like they have got any kind of— are feeling like they have got any kind of symptom, _ are feeling like they have got any kind of symptom, go _ are feeling like they have got any kind of symptom, go to - are feeling like they have got any kind of symptom, go to your- are feeling like they have got any kind of symptom, go to your gp. | are feeling like they have got any. kind of symptom, go to your gp. we encourage _ kind of symptom, go to your gp. we encourage you — kind of symptom, go to your gp. we encourage you to _ kind of symptom, go to your gp. we encourage you to see _ kind of symptom, go to your gp. we encourage you to see any— kind of symptom, go to your gp. we encourage you to see any health i kind of symptom, go to your gp. wel encourage you to see any health care professional, — encourage you to see any health care professional, just _ encourage you to see any health care professional, just itself _ encourage you to see any health care professional, just itself of _ encourage you to see any health care professional, just itself of there i professional, just itself of there as quickly— professional, just itself of there as quickly as _ professional, just itself of there as quickly as you _ professional, just itself of there as quickly as you can, _ professional, just itself of there as quickly as you can, because. professional, just itself of there . as quickly as you can, because we have _ as quickly as you can, because we have contingency_ as quickly as you can, because we have contingency plans _ as quickly as you can, because we have contingency plans to - as quickly as you can, because we have contingency plans to have i as quickly as you can, because wej have contingency plans to have an increase _ have contingency plans to have an increase of— have contingency plans to have an increase of patients, _ have contingency plans to have an increase of patients, and - have contingency plans to have an increase of patients, and we - have contingency plans to have an increase of patients, and we will i increase of patients, and we will havem — increase of patients, and we will havem 50. _ increase of patients, and we will havem 50. you— increase of patients, and we will have... so, you are _ increase of patients, and we will have... so, you are ready? - have... so, you are ready? absolutely _ have... so, you are ready? absolutely. and _ have... so, you are ready? absolutely. and we - have... so, you are ready? absolutely. and we have . have... so, you are ready? i absolutely. and we have got have... so, you are ready? . absolutely. and we have got a have... so, you are ready? - absolutely. and we have got a plan to increase — absolutely. and we have got a plan to increase our _ absolutely. and we have got a plan to increase our hours, _ absolutely. and we have got a plan to increase our hours, to— absolutely. and we have got a plan to increase our hours, to have - absolutely. and we have got a plan to increase our hours, to have six l to increase our hours, to have six to increase our hours, to have six to 70s _ to increase our hours, to have six to 70s working. _ to increase our hours, to have six to 70s working. so _ to increase our hours, to have six to 70s working, so we _ to increase our hours, to have six to 70s working, so we are - to increase our hours, to have six to 70s working, so we are ready. | to increase our hours, to have six - to 70s working, so we are ready. 0k, to 705 working, so we are ready. 0k, are ou to 70s working, so we are ready. are you exhausted? i think to 70s working, so we are ready.“ are you exhausted? i think everybody is tired~ _ are you exhausted? i think everybody is tired~ i— are you exhausted? i think everybody is tired. i think it is peaks and troughs— is tired. i think it is peaks and troughs of— is tired. i think it is peaks and troughs of how we're feeling, there have times — troughs of how we're feeling, there have times when you rely on the team resiiience _ have times when you rely on the team resilience together to get through. i resilience together to get through. i think— resilience together to get through. i think we — resilience together to get through. i think we are char, but this is what — i think we are char, but this is what we — i think we are char, but this is what we are here to do, we are here to deiiver— what we are here to do, we are here to deliver high quality care, and that is— to deliver high quality care, and that is what we thrive off, and that is why—

that is what we thrive off, and that is why we — that is what we thrive off, and that is why we do what we do. and obviousiy— is why we do what we do. and obviously the thought of the activity _ obviously the thought of the activity we are expecting is quite nerve—racking, but equally, we are prepared _ nerve—racking, but equally, we are prepared for it. we have had these plans— prepared for it. we have had these plans in— prepared for it. we have had these plans in place and we are fully ready— plans in place and we are fully ready to — plans in place and we are fully ready to set them off. gk, plans in place and we are fully ready to set them off. 0k, thank you both. i ready to set them off. 0k, thank you both- i really — ready to set them off. 0k, thank you both. i really appreciate _ ready to set them off. 0k, thank you both. i really appreciate your - ready to set them off. 0k, thank you both. i really appreciate your time. l both. i really appreciate your time. adrianna, service manager and lizzie as they mention. nice to meet a matron! it feels like a word from the 19505! matron! it feels like a word from the 1950s! do you like brain imaging? you love yourjob, don't you? absolutely. thank you. that is it from a day are broadcasting here at guy's and st thomas is. we want to see a big thank you, because they have just started to loosen restrictions, so they are allowing visitors which is why they allowed our cameras in for the first time in over a year, and we are very grateful. over a year, and we are very grateful-— over a year, and we are very crateful. . ., ., ., ,, grateful. indeed. we honour. thank ou ve grateful. indeed. we honour. thank you very much. _ grateful. indeed. we honour. thank you very much, victoria _ grateful. indeed. we honour. thank you very much, victoria derbyshirel you very much, victoria derbyshire there. just an update coming through in terms of the covid vaccination

programme. this particular relevance if you are and the blackburn and darwen council area, because the council had just put out a statement in the last few minutes seeing that additional clinics offering the vaccine to eligible people will open next week. the council wants to say that contrary to previous social media reporting, vaccines at the clinic will not be widely available to people over the age of 18. they are going to continue to be available within current government guidelines, and that is there for anyone over the age of 38 or anyone over 18 who has an underlying health condition, orwho over 18 who has an underlying health condition, or who lives with someone who has lowered immunity, as well as to health and social care staff, of course. and the council says it has responded immediately to provide doses of the pfizer vaccine at clinics following yesterday's announcement about a rise of covid 19

announcement about a rise of covid i9 linked to, in part, eight new variant of concern, first identified in india, that may spread more easily. so, that statementjust two from black one with darwen council, and you can see much more about that new variant that that is talking about. much more about that coming up about. much more about that coming up in a moment on the six o'clock news with sophie robot. more than that to come. for now, i would leave you with a look at the weather for prospects. here is a good news for tomorrow, the weather is looking a little less lively. we are expecting fewer showers. one or two heavy ones maybe with some cracks of thunder, but on the whole, not quite the wash—out that we had today in some southern and south—western areas. the forecast through the night shows for showers for a time in the south

dying away. then i think it is a case of low—grade cloud drifting in from the north sea and engulfing much of eastern and central britain. frost free tonight. around six to 9 degrees. friday, there is a weather system approaching, but it won't arrive until friday night into saturday. dry to come in a quieter day. not to completely dry day. after that really great, drizzly start in the murk it as well. the sunshine will develop across western areas, but that is also going to spark off some heavy showers, anywhere from western scotland, northern ireland, the lake district, wales and the side. many central and eastern areas should have a dry day, but it is going to be cloudy. eventually, friday night into saturday, the weather front moves through, and that will bring a spell are particularly heavy rain early on the morning on saturday, and even once a weather front moves through your area, the chances are heavy

showers to follow. this is what it looks like earlier in the day. he was a weather front moving through, giving us a soak in for a time, and then the sunshine comes out and it helps to develop heavy showers initially across wales on the south, and then the showers through the day will spread northwards some so, really volatile atmosphere sitting on top of it during the weekend, not just saturday, but throughout sunday as well. in fact, out of the two, sunday is probably going to be the day with the biggest showers, the biggest downpours and thunder and lightning. in this unsettled weather is expected to last into the week ahead as well. let's have a look at the outlook into next week, where we see plenty of shower symbols here. this will change from day to day as a weather app on your smartphone continually updates the forecast for your individual location, but suffice to say, very unsettled.

at 6pm — the prime minister says he's anxious about a rise in the indian covid variant in the uk, as scientists meet to discuss its spread. bolton has the highest rise in cases of the new variant — mostly among the young — some affected areas are now offering the vaccine to anyone over 18 to try to stop the spread. it is a variant of concern, we are anxious about it, it has been spreading. it comes as new figures reveal the impact of the pandemic on the nhs — almost five million people in england are now waiting for routine hospital treatment. portugal extends its restrictions on flights until the end of may — meaning thousands of holiday—makers hoping to go from next week may not now be allowed to travel.

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