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between arab israelis and jewish israelis, these are riots that we have not really seen anything like really for some time, if perhaps since the foundation of the modern set of israel, so that is a challenge for israel at the moment, especially while that is undergoing this barrage of rockets from gaza at the same time. but we've got to remember i think that these are not necessarily very symptomatically the wider public. it is certainly a worrying sign that there are these divisions within the society in israel come up in these overly people representing the fringes on either side, and most israelis, jewish and arab, do actually get on really well and coexist, not to say they're not problems like there are for ethnic minorities in all sort of countries around the world. so i think it is a challenge but it is deftly a secondary challenge to the rockets and the war going on down in the south. ~ , ., ~ ., ,., ., rockets and the war going on down in the south. ~ , ., ~ ., ., ., the south. must talk about that in a moment was _ the south. must talk about that in a moment was to _ the south. must talk about that in a moment was to just _ the south. must talk about that in a moment was to just to _ the south. must talk about that in a moment was to just to pick - the south. must talk about that in a moment was to just to pick up - the south. must talk about that in a moment was to just to pick up on i moment was to just to pick up on your theme, jeffrey kofman, is there something generational going on here as well? in a sense there seems to be the kind of come whether a
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reluctant acceptance or just an acceptance, of the statist bow by the political leaderships on both sides in this conflict for quite a long time now. we don't like it but it is what it is and we are going to operate around it rather than bring about resolving the basic problems. i wonder if perhaps younger generations are losing patience with that on both sides. i do generations are losing patience with that on both sides.— that on both sides. i do not know if it is generational, _ that on both sides. i do not know if it is generational, and _ that on both sides. i do not know if it is generational, and i _ that on both sides. i do not know if it is generational, and i think- that on both sides. i do not know if it is generational, and i think what| it is generational, and i think what it is generational, and i think what it is generational, and i think what it is is_ it is generational, and i think what it is is this — it is generational, and i think what it is is this polarisation of israeii _ it is is this polarisation of israeli politics, much reflecting somewhat a similar way that you see in the _ somewhat a similar way that you see in the us, _ somewhat a similar way that you see in the us, or— somewhat a similar way that you see in the us, oryou have somewhat a similar way that you see in the us, or you have this heart rate _ in the us, or you have this heart rate that — in the us, or you have this heart rate that is — in the us, or you have this heart rate that is intransigent, netanyahu, prime minister, playing to that— netanyahu, prime minister, playing to that franchise, and so it really ism _ to that franchise, and so it really ism buiids— to that franchise, and so it really is... builds on this. i do not know if i is... builds on this. i do not know if i agree — is... builds on this. i do not know if i agree with _ is... builds on this. i do not know if i agree with jonathan's perspective on this potential civil war, _ perspective on this potential civil war. iet's — perspective on this potential civil war, let's not call it that, let's be careful_ war, let's not call it that, let's be careful not to overstate it, but this internal clash is in many ways the crisis — this internal clash is in many ways
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the crisis. the israeli fight with hamas— the crisis. the israeli fight with hamas is— the crisis. the israeli fight with hamas is something we've seen before in 2014 _ hamas is something we've seen before in 2014 this— hamas is something we've seen before in 2014. this new dimension of internal— in 2014. this new dimension of internal strife cabal it may not reflect — internal strife cabal it may not reflect the broader feelings of jewish— reflect the broader feelings of jewish israelis and arab israelis, the kind — jewish israelis and arab israelis, the kind of horrific violence we are seeing, _ the kind of horrific violence we are seeing, a — the kind of horrific violence we are seeing, a person against person withih_ seeing, a person against person within israel, has the ability to undo _ within israel, has the ability to undo a — within israel, has the ability to undo a lot— within israel, has the ability to undo a lot that has been built over the last— undo a lot that has been built over the last decade, and trying to make ismel— the last decade, and trying to make israei a _ the last decade, and trying to make israel a multicultural state and to include _ israel a multicultural state and to include arab israelis in part of the democracy — include arab israelis in part of the democracy. clearly not a complete project _ democracy. clearly not a complete meet by — democracy. clearly not a complete project by any means, but this is a huge _ project by any means, but this is a huge setback, and even netanyahu, who likes _ huge setback, and even netanyahu, who likes to pit one side against the other, — who likes to pit one side against the other, has recognised this, calling — the other, has recognised this, calling these outbursts against, this violence against jews and arabs
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pogroms, _ this violence against jews and arabs pogroms, a — this violence against jews and arabs pogroms, a very late in word by netanyahu. we pogroms, a very late in word by netanyahn— pogroms, a very late in word by netan ahu. ~ ., ~ ., netanyahu. we can talk about the palestinian leadership, _ netanyahu. we can talk about the palestinian leadership, and - netanyahu. we can talk about the palestinian leadership, and there | palestinian leadership, and there also some criticisms, whether about president abbas cancelling the elections yet again, hamas not being a democratic organisation, butjust in terms of israeli politics, quite interesting that the leader of the united arab list, a possible coalition partner in a new government that does not include benjamin netanyahu, that he is one this calling for the protest by arabs over the al—aqsa mosque, for this protest to be halted, because he is worried they will lead to something far dangerous l mack were dangerous. could this be a potentially positive moment for illegal leaders within israel, to recognise the risk and do something more creative to avert that danger? i think there was that opportunity, perhaps, to come with the greatest
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solution with the fourth election results israeljust saw in succession, because of their slightly strange political system where you have to form a coalition government from, really, blocks of votes either on the right or left. for the first time, there was this arab party which could have been the kingmaker, could have been the deal—maker in holding together a coalition, and so those quite uncomfortable for some, especially on the right, especially more zionist minded parties, and especially is that particular party has it might be a bit late to say that there could be dangerous results from those protests that have been encouraged by hamas injerusalem, for example on the temple mount in around sheikh jarrah. that is already happened. what has happened is hamas has launched rockets onjerusalem, the
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holy city, and israel had to respond to that, they said, and so there is really all war going on in the south and people in israel are undergoing and people in israel are undergoing a barrage of rockets and people in gaza are undergoing air strikes from the israeli military with quite some force, so i think perhaps the time force, so i think perhaps the time for the strait of solutions has passed and perhaps the winds of opportunity to include an arab, slightly is a missed party, and the coalition has also passed, because nothing and i will we have seen is the highlighting of divisions and also the idea that perhaps i'm in is really society have started those protests and riots —— in israeli society. perhaps capitalise on that with this violence. perhaps they saw that strong zionist governments that benjamin netanyahu was unable to form with his share of the votes may be suggested israel was weakening or cracking andi and i do not know if that is made easy report of the government now. jeffrey come up before i bring celie in and we broaden out and go into
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the global segment there is lots of talks with lots of players, indeed, call from the white house, from joe biden, for de—escalation. is that realistic to you to use that language, given this is a fundamental deep—seated problem that just keeps erecting? this fundamental deep-seated problem that just keeps erecting?— just keeps erecting? this is an interesting _ just keeps erecting? this is an interesting question, - just keeps erecting? this is an interesting question, the - just keeps erecting? this is an interesting question, the role| just keeps erecting? this is an i interesting question, the role of joe biden— interesting question, the role of joe biden in this. really since he was like — joe biden in this. really since he was like prison under obama, he has tried to _ was like prison under obama, he has tried to pivot — was like prison under obama, he has tried to pivot away from the middle east and _ tried to pivot away from the middle east and really, as president, his focus, _ east and really, as president, his focus, he — east and really, as president, his focus, he wanted to focus and he has tried to _ focus, he wanted to focus and he has tried to focus on china, russia, climate — tried to focus on china, russia, climate change, toning things, the end with _ climate change, toning things, the end with iran, and he was really keen_ end with iran, and he was really keen hot— end with iran, and he was really keen not to _ end with iran, and he was really keen not to engage in middle eastern politics— keen not to engage in middle eastern politics and is really — every politics _ politics and is really — every politics in _ politics and is really — every politics in a way that the us has in the past _ politics in a way that the us has in the past -- — politics in a way that the us has in the past —— israeli — arab. you don't — the past —— israeli — arab. you don't always _ the past —— israeli — arab. you don't always control events, even if youte _ don't always control events, even if you're united states president, and in this— you're united states president, and in this case — you're united states president, and in this case biden now playing catch-up, _ in this case biden now playing catch—up, he is trying to not to be
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the lead _ catch—up, he is trying to not to be the lead on — catch—up, he is trying to not to be the lead on this, trying to enable iocai— the lead on this, trying to enable local actors, qatar, the united arab emirates, _ local actors, qatar, the united arab emirates, especially egypt, to mediate — emirates, especially egypt, to mediate this as egypt he didn't when he 14, _ mediate this as egypt he didn't when he 14, and _ mediate this as egypt he didn't when he 14, and evil he does not want the us to _ he 14, and evil he does not want the us to play— he 14, and evil he does not want the us to play the role on act! he really— us to play the role on act! he really does not want. is becoming more _ really does not want. is becoming more than — really does not want. is becoming more than an individual. whether netanyahu had a personal agenda 'oint netanyahu had a personal agenda joint onto— netanyahu had a personal agenda joint onto hisjob and avoid being thrown _ joint onto hisjob and avoid being thrown out, whether biden wanted to say on _ thrown out, whether biden wanted to say on the _ thrown out, whether biden wanted to say on the sidelines, this is now something — say on the sidelines, this is now something very big and very worrisome. can it go on? ultimately, israei— worrisome. can it go on? ultimately, israei is _ worrisome. can it go on? ultimately, israei is much — worrisome. can it go on? ultimately, israel is much stronger than hamas, if this— israel is much stronger than hamas, if this escalates, israel has the firepower, _ if this escalates, israel has the firepower, but i think both sides recognise — firepower, but i think both sides recognise that. i think it isjust hard _ recognise that. i think it isjust hard to— recognise that. i think it isjust hard to see _ recognise that. i think it isjust hard to see how they're going to step track— hard to see how they're going to step back now that so many rockets have been_ step back now that so many rockets have been exchanged, so many deaths haven't _ have been exchanged, so many deaths haven't already occurred. it is interesting — haven't already occurred. it is interesting - _ haven't already occurred. it is interesting - this _ haven't already occurred. it is interesting - this is _ haven't already occurred. it is interesting - this is a - haven't already occurred. it 3 interesting — this is a long way away from the asia—pacific region,
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but it is one of those international issues that people, governments like japan, which has sought to play role of mediator role in international politics, they often find themselves involved in this. is there much interest in what happens in the middle east in your region? there is a risin: middle east in your region? there is a rising amount _ middle east in your region? there is a rising amount of _ middle east in your region? there is a rising amount of interest. - middle east in your region? there is a rising amount of interest. let's . a rising amount of interest. let's look— a rising amount of interest. let's look at _ a rising amount of interest. let's look at the — a rising amount of interest. let's look at the role _ a rising amount of interest. let's look at the role of _ a rising amount of interest. let's look at the role of china. - a rising amount of interest. let's look at the role of china. china's| look at the role of china. china's foreign— look at the role of china. china's foreign minister— look at the role of china. china's foreign minister played - look at the role of china. china's foreign minister played a - look at the role of china. china's foreign minister played a visit i look at the role of china. china'sj foreign minister played a visit to the middle — foreign minister played a visit to the middle east— foreign minister played a visit to the middle east earlier— foreign minister played a visit to the middle east earlier this- foreign minister played a visit toi the middle east earlier this year, and crucially— the middle east earlier this year, and crucially really— the middle east earlier this year, and crucially really tried - the middle east earlier this year, and crucially really tried to - the middle east earlier this year, and crucially really tried to take i and crucially really tried to take the middle _ and crucially really tried to take the middle ground, _ and crucially really tried to take the middle ground, visited - and crucially really tried to take l the middle ground, visited saudi arabia, — the middle ground, visited saudi arabia, then _ the middle ground, visited saudi arabia, then went _ the middle ground, visited saudi arabia, then went to _ the middle ground, visited saudi arabia, then went to iran - the middle ground, visited saudi arabia, then went to iran and . the middle ground, visited saudi - arabia, then went to iran and signed a 25 year— arabia, then went to iran and signed a 25 year investment _ arabia, then went to iran and signed a 25 year investment you _ arabia, then went to iran and signed a 25 year investment you with - arabia, then went to iran and signed a 25 year investment you with iran, i a 25 year investment you with iran, so china's— a 25 year investment you with iran, so china's trying _ a 25 year investment you with iran, so china's trying to _ a 25 year investment you with iran, so china's trying to start _ a 25 year investment you with iran, so china's trying to start playing. so china's trying to start playing more _ so china's trying to start playing more of— so china's trying to start playing more of a — so china's trying to start playing more of a role _ so china's trying to start playing more of a role in _ so china's trying to start playing more of a role in the _ so china's trying to start playing more of a role in the middle - so china's trying to start playing i more of a role in the middle east. they— more of a role in the middle east. they even— more of a role in the middle east. they even offered _ more of a role in the middle east. they even offered to _ more of a role in the middle east. they even offered to broker- more of a role in the middle east. they even offered to broker talksl they even offered to broker talks between — they even offered to broker talks between the _ they even offered to broker talks between the israelis _ they even offered to broker talks between the israelis and - between the israelis and palestinians— between the israelis and palestinians later- between the israelis and palestinians later this i between the israelis and i palestinians later this year. however. _ palestinians later this year. however. as _ palestinians later this year. however, as soon - palestinians later this year. however, as soon as - palestinians later this year. however, as soon as the i palestinians later this year. - however, as soon as the violence broke _ however, as soon as the violence broke out, — however, as soon as the violence broke out, in— however, as soon as the violence broke out, in the _ however, as soon as the violence broke out, in the past— however, as soon as the violence broke out, in the past week, - however, as soon as the violence i broke out, in the past week, beijing realty— broke out, in the past week, beijing realty caiied — broke out, in the past week, beijing realty called on _ broke out, in the past week, beijing really called on the _ broke out, in the past week, beijing really called on the united - broke out, in the past week, beijing really called on the united states i really called on the united states and said. — really called on the united states and said. joe— really called on the united states and said, joe biden _ really called on the united states and said, joe biden is _ really called on the united states and said, joe biden is not - really called on the united states and said, joe biden is not givingl and said, joe biden is not giving enough. — and said, joe biden is not giving enough. they— and said, joe biden is not giving enough, they are _ and said, joe biden is not giving enough, they are ignoring - and said, joe biden is not giving enough, they are ignoring the l enough, they are ignoring the suffering _ enough, they are ignoring the suffering of _ enough, they are ignoring the suffering of muslims - enough, they are ignoring the suffering of muslims cannot l enough, they are ignoring thel suffering of muslims cannot up particular— suffering of muslims cannot up particular with _ suffering of muslims cannot up
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particular with the _ suffering of muslims cannot upi particular with the palestinians, which _ particular with the palestinians, which is — particular with the palestinians, which is interesting... - particular with the palestinians, which is interesting. . ._ particular with the palestinians, which is interesting... because of the treatment _ which is interesting... because of the treatment of _ which is interesting... because of the treatment of the _ which is interesting... because of the treatment of the uighurs - which is interesting... because of the treatment of the uighurs in l the treatment of the uighurs in china. .. , the treatment of the uighurs in china. , ., the treatment of the uighurs in china. ., china. exactly can a so when it comes down — china. exactly can a so when it comes down to _ china. exactly can a so when it comes down to it, _ china. exactly can a so when it comes down to it, the - china. exactly can a so when it comes down to it, the impulse china. exactly can a so when it i comes down to it, the impulse in beijing. — comes down to it, the impulse in beijing. and— comes down to it, the impulse in beijing, and frankly— comes down to it, the impulse in beijing, and frankly among - comes down to it, the impulse in beijing, and frankly among a - comes down to it, the impulse in beijing, and frankly among a lotl comes down to it, the impulse in i beijing, and frankly among a lot of countries _ beijing, and frankly among a lot of countries in — beijing, and frankly among a lot of countries in the _ beijing, and frankly among a lot of countries in the region, _ beijing, and frankly among a lot of countries in the region, is- beijing, and frankly among a lot of countries in the region, is to - countries in the region, is to instantly— countries in the region, is to instantly look _ countries in the region, is to instantly look to _ countries in the region, is to instantly look to washington countries in the region, is to - instantly look to washington and wonder— instantly look to washington and wonder what _ instantly look to washington and wonder what is— instantly look to washington and wonder what is going _ instantly look to washington and wonder what is going on, - instantly look to washington and wonder what is going on, and . wonder what is going on, and unfortunate _ wonder what is going on, and unfortunate i— wonder what is going on, and unfortunate i think _ wonder what is going on, and unfortunate i think many - wonder what is going on, and . unfortunate i think many people wonder what is going on, and - unfortunate i think many people have been disappointed _ unfortunate i think many people have been disappointed by— unfortunate i think many people have been disappointed by the _ unfortunate i think many people have been disappointed by the biden- been disappointed by the biden administration's _ been disappointed by the biden administration's reaction. - been disappointed by the biden administration's reaction. they| administration's reaction. they really— administration's reaction. they really faiiing _ administration's reaction. they really falling into _ administration's reaction. they really falling into line - administration's reaction. they really falling into line with - administration's reaction. they really falling into line with thel really falling into line with the idea that _ really falling into line with the idea that basically _ really falling into line with the idea that basically have - really falling into line with the idea that basically have not i really falling into line with the i idea that basically have not done enough. — idea that basically have not done enough. they— idea that basically have not done enough, they have _ idea that basically have not done enough, they have not _ idea that basically have not done enough, they have not come - idea that basically have not done enough, they have not come outi enough, they have not come out strongly— enough, they have not come out strongly enough _ enough, they have not come out strongly enough to _ enough, they have not come out strongly enough to denounce - enough, they have not come out| strongly enough to denounce the violence — strongly enough to denounce the violence. �* g ., . . strongly enough to denounce the violence. . ., ., , strongly enough to denounce the violence. ., ., , the problem with what celie alluded to with china, it is finding honest brokers, people regarded within the region on all sides as not having a dog in this fight come in the way that washington cannot be regarded because of his long history in the middle east? i’m because of his long history in the middle east?— middle east? i'm going to say something — middle east? i'm going to say something other _ middle east? i'm going to say something other the - middle east? i'm going to say - something other the controversial... this would not have happened if
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dominic was still president, and so i do think that hamas and mcnicol collation to launch those rockets and to really escalate the violence, they are responsible for trying to capitalise on the crumbling of the palestinian elections before they even happened, when they were cancelled, they have been whipping up cancelled, they have been whipping up anger in palestinians and us bank to transfer themselves as the true protectors of islam injerusalem the holy sites, i think all of this is partly because they saw an opportunity there, notjust of course from the us site and also they an opportunity with the week... they have cancelled the elections, thinking mahmoud abbas will be able to review his term... is thinking mahmoud abbas will be able to review his term. . ._ to review his term... is action 17 ears, to review his term... is action 17 years. but _ to review his term... is action 17 years. but -- — to review his term... is action 17 years. but -- it _ to review his term... is action 17 years, but -- it is _ to review his term... is action 17 years, but -- it is action - to review his term. .. is action 17 years, but -- it is action for- to review his term... is action 17 years, but -- it is action for he i years, but —— it is action for he was supposed to have 14—year term and stand for elections for so that election ever happened. that and stand for elections for so that election ever happened.— election ever happened. that is ri . ht, election ever happened. that is right. and _ election ever happened. that is right. and this _ election ever happened. that is right, and this gave _ election ever happened. that is right, and this gave hamas - election ever happened. that is right, and this gave hamas the | election ever happened. that is - right, and this gave hamas the time to ask. they have weapons, better
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weapons, now, longer—range weapons that came from iran. iran will have a handedness as well, something to do with this, if not only the supply of those weapons and financing for the ball of this is the perfect storm, and as you say some of that is from the international scene, really, that america is perhaps not seen as being terribly interested into stage underjoe biden, and that is really one part of the jigsaw. the others are that hamas wanted to try and prove itself to the palestinian people and take part in this internal debate and struggle for representation of palestinians. and i think that israel is acting so firmly now in its reaction because it feels it has to show that that cannot be allowed to happen. they keep saying the nikon to accept a cease—fire at this stage because they have not achieved their aims. one of those aims, you might ask yourself? those aims are to absolutely crush hamas's capability because this last happened 2014. it
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has been relatively quiet since then, 2000 rockets, some of them not being caught by the defence system, and about 90% of them it can be caught by it from us there been deaths, there have been a lot of disruption, destruction and israel as well. that is something israel does not want to see happening. jeffrey? j does not want to see happening. jeffre ? ~' ., �* jeffrey? i think on the biden question. — jeffrey? i think on the biden question. i— jeffrey? i think on the biden question, i think _ jeffrey? i think on the biden question, i think while - jeffrey? i think on the biden| question, i think while some jeffrey? i think on the biden - question, i think while some are saying _ question, i think while some are saying biden has been asleep at the switch. _ saying biden has been asleep at the switch, this is a conscious, let's be clear. — switch, this is a conscious, let's be clear, policy by biting, and biden— be clear, policy by biting, and biden does not want the us to have to go— biden does not want the us to have to go in— biden does not want the us to have to go in and — biden does not want the us to have to go in and referee this perpetually. and his view is, let's pull back, — perpetually. and his view is, let's pull back, let's let others come in and resolve — pull back, let's let others come in and resolve this. we do not... the only— and resolve this. we do not... the only way— and resolve this. we do not... the only way to — and resolve this. we do not... the only way to stop this kind of behaviour is if we do not come in and use — behaviour is if we do not come in and use our— behaviour is if we do not come in and use our muscle to make everyone behave _ and use our muscle to make everyone behave and _ and use our muscle to make everyone behave and then they go into the corner— behave and then they go into the corner and — behave and then they go into the corner and they come back and fight again— corner and they come back and fight again wassup this is a calculation
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that may— again wassup this is a calculation that may not work, and as it feels it threatens — that may not work, and as it feels it threatens not to work, but this is not _ it threatens not to work, but this is not to— it threatens not to work, but this is not to be — it threatens not to work, but this is not to be clear biden being asleeo — is not to be clear biden being asleep. he was probably a bit slow to react _ asleep. he was probably a bit slow to react earlier this week in giving -- given— to react earlier this week in giving —— given how quickly things isolated _ —— given how quickly things isolated. he is also under huge pressure — isolated. he is also under huge pressure within his own party, the left wing — pressure within his own party, the left wing of his party, aoc, bernie sanders. _ left wing of his party, aoc, bernie sanders, standing up for the palestinians and saying, this is not about— palestinians and saying, this is not about two— palestinians and saying, this is not about two equal parties throwing bombs _ about two equal parties throwing bombs at — about two equal parties throwing bombs at each other, firing rockets at each _ bombs at each other, firing rockets at each other, this is about an imbalance _ at each other, this is about an imbalance of power and israeli muscle — imbalance of power and israeli muscle. and yet of course he has got a very— muscle. and yet of course he has got a very strong — muscle. and yet of course he has got a very strong pro—israel constituency, and he himself has declared — constituency, and he himself has declared himself a pro—israel guy in the past, _ declared himself a pro—israel guy in the past, so — declared himself a pro—israel guy in the past, so he is trying to balance a lot of. _ the past, so he is trying to balance a lot of. as — the past, so he is trying to balance a lot of, as always, competing interests — a lot of, as always, competing interests here. i think we have not
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rightly— interests here. i think we have not rightly point here for all of these people. — rightly point here for all of these people, where this is coming something very big and very scary. jeffrey. _ something very big and very scary. jeffrey, jonathan, think you very much on that. i am going to come to see the enough or summing happening in your region, celia. —— i am going to come to celia now. hosting the olympic games can transform a city's global reputation. think london 2012 or indeed tokyo 1964. japan was hoping the return of the world's athletes in 2020 would have a similarly positive effect. covid forced the international olympic committee to delay the games by one year. just eight weeks before the olympics are scheduled to begin, the head of the ioc can't even visit because of the scale of coronavirus infection. celia, we kind of have talked about this at different points on different programmes over the last few months, will they come along they. we've heard again today from sebastian kokomo from world athletics, he is confident it is going to go ahead —— sebastian coe. but the other noises are very far from being that sure. absolutely for
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some it is almost _ from being that sure. absolutely for some it is almost like _ from being that sure. absolutely for some it is almost like two _ from being that sure. absolutely for some it is almost like two worlds i some it is almost like two worlds are in— some it is almost like two worlds are in play— some it is almost like two worlds are in play at— some it is almost like two worlds are in play at the— some it is almost like two worlds are in play at the moment. - some it is almost like two worlds are in play at the moment. it- some it is almost like two worlds are in play at the moment. it is. are in play at the moment. it is fascinating _ are in play at the moment. it is fascinating for— are in play at the moment. it is fascinating for some _ are in play at the moment. it is fascinating for some tokyo - are in play at the moment. it isi fascinating for some tokyo won feeling — fascinating for some tokyo won feeling picks— fascinating for some tokyo won feeling picks back— fascinating for some tokyo won feeling picks back in _ fascinating for some tokyo won feeling picks back in 2013 - fascinating for some tokyo won feeling picks back in 2013 with. fascinating for some tokyo won . feeling picks back in 2013 with the slogan _ feeling picks back in 2013 with the slogan the — feeling picks back in 2013 with the slogan the other— feeling picks back in 2013 with the slogan the other piece _ feeling picks back in 2013 with the slogan the other piece will- feeling picks back in 2013 with the slogan the other piece will be - feeling picks back in 2013 with the | slogan the other piece will be safe in our— slogan the other piece will be safe in our hands _ slogan the other piece will be safe in our hands. but— slogan the other piece will be safe in our hands. but frankly, - slogan the other piece will be safe in our hands. but frankly, the - in our hands. but frankly, the number— in our hands. but frankly, the number of— in our hands. but frankly, the number of voices— in our hands. but frankly, the number of voices inside - in our hands. but frankly, the number of voices inside japan in our hands. but frankly, the - number of voices inside japan that are mounting _ number of voices inside japan that are mounting to _ number of voices inside japan that are mounting to say, _ number of voices inside japan that are mounting to say, actually - number of voices inside japan that are mounting to say, actually we i number of voices inside japan that i are mounting to say, actually we do not think— are mounting to say, actually we do not think that — are mounting to say, actually we do not think that is _ are mounting to say, actually we do not think that is true, _ are mounting to say, actually we do not think that is true, we _ are mounting to say, actually we do not think that is true, we do - are mounting to say, actually we do not think that is true, we do not - not think that is true, we do not think— not think that is true, we do not think that — not think that is true, we do not think that this— not think that is true, we do not think that this is _ not think that is true, we do not think that this is a _ not think that is true, we do not think that this is a safe - not think that is true, we do not think that this is a safe thing - not think that is true, we do not think that this is a safe thing toi think that this is a safe thing to have _ think that this is a safe thing to have we — think that this is a safe thing to have we are _ think that this is a safe thing to have, we are seeing _ think that this is a safe thing to have, we are seeing now- think that this is a safe thing to have, we are seeing now the i think that this is a safe thing to - have, we are seeing now the junior doctors _ have, we are seeing now the junior doctors union. _ have, we are seeing now the junior doctors union, other— have, we are seeing now the junior doctors union, other medical- have, we are seeing now the junior. doctors union, other medical unions, really— doctors union, other medical unions, really voicing — doctors union, other medical unions, really voicing their— doctors union, other medical unions, really voicing their disapproval, - doctors union, other medical unions, really voicing their disapproval, we . really voicing their disapproval, we are seeing — really voicing their disapproval, we are seeing tob— really voicing their disapproval, we are seeing top ceos, _ really voicing their disapproval, we are seeing top ceos, one - really voicing their disapproval, we are seeing top ceos, one this - really voicing their disapproval, we j are seeing top ceos, one this week called _ are seeing top ceos, one this week called it— are seeing top ceos, one this week called it a _ are seeing top ceos, one this week called it a suicide _ are seeing top ceos, one this week called it a suicide mission, - are seeing top ceos, one this week called it a suicide mission, to - called it a suicide mission, to carry— called it a suicide mission, to carry out— called it a suicide mission, to carry out the _ called it a suicide mission, to carry out the olympics. - called it a suicide mission, to carry out the olympics. and i called it a suicide mission, to - carry out the olympics. and frankly, when _ carry out the olympics. and frankly, when you _ carry out the olympics. and frankly, when you look— carry out the olympics. and frankly, when you look at _ carry out the olympics. and frankly, when you look at how _ carry out the olympics. and frankly, when you look at how tokyo, - carry out the olympics. and frankly, when you look at how tokyo, the . when you look at how tokyo, the government. _ when you look at how tokyo, the government, has— when you look at how tokyo, the government, has been— when you look at how tokyo, the government, has been handlingl when you look at how tokyo, the i government, has been handling the covid _ government, has been handling the covid crisis. — government, has been handling the covid crisis. you _ government, has been handling the covid crisis, you can _ government, has been handling the covid crisis, you can understand - government, has been handling thei covid crisis, you can understand why people _ covid crisis, you can understand why people are _ covid crisis, you can understand why people are so — covid crisis, you can understand why people are so angry _ covid crisis, you can understand why people are so angry. for— covid crisis, you can understand why people are so angry. for example, i people are so angry. for example, they've _ people are so angry. for example, they've come — people are so angry. for example, they've come out _ people are so angry. for example, they've come out to _ people are so angry. for example, they've come out to admit - people are so angry. for example, they've come out to admit that - people are so angry. for example, i they've come out to admit that they are not— they've come out to admit that they are not using, — they've come out to admit that they are not using, they— they've come out to admit that they are not using, they have _ they've come out to admit that they are not using, they have not - they've come out to admit that they are not using, they have not sped . they've come out to admit that theyl are not using, they have not sped up their approval— are not using, they have not sped up their approval process _ are not using, they have not sped up their approval process for _ their approval process for vaccinations, _ their approval process for vaccinations, and - their approval process for vaccinations, and so- their approval process for vaccinations, and so it. their approval process for vaccinations, and so it isl their approval process for - vaccinations, and so it is very difficult, _ vaccinations, and so it is very difficult, really— vaccinations, and so it is very difficult, really come - vaccinations, and so it is very difficult, really come a - vaccinations, and so it is veryl difficult, really come a they've only— difficult, really come a they've only approved _ difficult, really come a they've only approved one _ difficult, really come a they've only approved one vaccine - difficult, really come a they've only approved one vaccine sol difficult, really come a they've i only approved one vaccine so far, only approved one vaccine so far, only i%_ only approved one vaccine so far, only i% of— only approved one vaccine so far, only 1% of the _ only approved one vaccine so far, only 1% of the population - only approved one vaccine so far, only 1% of the population is - only approved one vaccine so far, only 1% of the population is fullyl
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only 1% of the population is fully vaccinated. _ only 1% of the population is fully vaccinated, they've _ only 1% of the population is fully vaccinated, they've also - only 1% of the population is fully vaccinated, they've also said, i vaccinated, they've also said, actually — vaccinated, they've also said, actually we _ vaccinated, they've also said, actually we do _ vaccinated, they've also said, actually we do not _ vaccinated, they've also said, actually we do not have - vaccinated, they've also said, i actually we do not have enough people — actually we do not have enough people to — actually we do not have enough people to staff— actually we do not have enough people to staff vaccination - actually we do not have enough- people to staff vaccination centres. but at _ people to staff vaccination centres. but at the — people to staff vaccination centres. but at the same _ people to staff vaccination centres. but at the same time, _ people to staff vaccination centres. but at the same time, they- people to staff vaccination centres. but at the same time, they are - but at the same time, they are calling — but at the same time, they are calling on— but at the same time, they are calling on nurses _ but at the same time, they are calling on nurses to _ but at the same time, they are calling on nurses to go - but at the same time, they are calling on nurses to go and - but at the same time, they are i calling on nurses to go and work but at the same time, they are - calling on nurses to go and work at all the _ calling on nurses to go and work at all the big — calling on nurses to go and work at all the big venues, _ calling on nurses to go and work at all the big venues, and _ calling on nurses to go and work at all the big venues, and so- calling on nurses to go and work at all the big venues, and so public. all the big venues, and so public anger— all the big venues, and so public anger is— all the big venues, and so public anger is mounting, _ all the big venues, and so public anger is mounting, and - all the big venues, and so public anger is mounting, and believe. all the big venues, and so public. anger is mounting, and believe the government— anger is mounting, and believe the government is— anger is mounting, and believe the government is not— anger is mounting, and believe the government is not doing _ anger is mounting, and believe the government is not doing a - anger is mounting, and believe the government is not doing a good . anger is mounting, and believe the| government is not doing a good job in commencing _ government is not doing a good job in commencing its _ government is not doing a good job in commencing its own— government is not doing a good job in commencing its own people - government is not doing a good job in commencing its own people that| in commencing its own people that they really— in commencing its own people that they really do _ in commencing its own people that they really do care _ in commencing its own people that they really do care about _ in commencing its own people that they really do care about dealing . they really do care about dealing with the — they really do care about dealing with the covid _ they really do care about dealing with the covid crisis _ they really do care about dealing with the covid crisis while - they really do care about dealing i with the covid crisis while mounting a fantastic— with the covid crisis while mounting a fantastic olympics. _ with the covid crisis while mounting a fantastic olympics. the _ with the covid crisis while mounting a fantastic olympics.— a fantastic olympics. the length exist turning _ a fantastic olympics. the length exist turning into _ a fantastic olympics. the length exist turning into a _ a fantastic olympics. the length exist turning into a bit _ a fantastic olympics. the length exist turning into a bit of- a fantastic olympics. the length exist turning into a bit of a - a fantastic olympics. the length i exist turning into a bit of a cross for the prime minister to bear, and it seems to be dragging down his not very high popularity ratings even when he started in the job, very high popularity ratings even when he started in thejob, it very high popularity ratings even when he started in the job, it seems to be one of them seemed that pushing him down and down and down every time he speaks on it. but pushing him down and down and down every time he speaks on it.— every time he speaks on it. but it's reall sad every time he speaks on it. but it's really sad is _ every time he speaks on it. but it's really sad is the _ every time he speaks on it. but it's really sad is the aim _ every time he speaks on it. but it's really sad is the aim was _ every time he speaks on it. but it's really sad is the aim was to - every time he speaks on it. but it's really sad is the aim was to host i really sad is the aim was to host the olympics— really sad is the aim was to host the olympics and _ really sad is the aim was to host the olympics and really- really sad is the aim was to host the olympics and really project. really sad is the aim was to host. the olympics and really project this image _ the olympics and really project this image of— the olympics and really project this image ofjapan_ the olympics and really project this image ofjapan as_ the olympics and really project this image ofjapan as this _ the olympics and really project this image ofjapan as this nation - the olympics and really project this image ofjapan as this nation full. image ofjapan as this nation full of vitality. — image ofjapan as this nation full of vitality, energy, _ image ofjapan as this nation full of vitality, energy, this - image ofjapan as this nation full of vitality, energy, this really- of vitality, energy, this really exciting — of vitality, energy, this really exciting country, _ of vitality, energy, this really exciting country, and - of vitality, energy, this really exciting country, and to - of vitality, energy, this really| exciting country, and to really recast — exciting country, and to really recast it. _ exciting country, and to really recast it. in— exciting country, and to really recast it, in a _ exciting country, and to really recast it, in a way, _ exciting country, and to really recast it, in a way, and - exciting country, and to reallyl recast it, in a way, and instead exciting country, and to really. recast it, in a way, and instead it is, the _ recast it, in a way, and instead it is, the prominence— recast it, in a way, and instead it is, the prominence are _ recast it, in a way, and instead it. is, the prominence are struggling. his approval—
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is, the prominence are struggling. his approval rating _ is, the prominence are struggling. his approval rating is _ is, the prominence are struggling. his approval rating is at _ is, the prominence are struggling. his approval rating is at 35% - is, the prominence are struggling. his approval rating is at 35% at - is, the prominence are struggling.| his approval rating is at 35% at the moment— his approval rating is at 35% at the moment and — his approval rating is at 35% at the moment and the _ his approval rating is at 35% at the moment and the country— his approval rating is at 35% at the moment and the country is - his approval rating is at 35% at the moment and the country is really. moment and the country is really struggling — moment and the country is really struggling to _ moment and the country is really struggling to recast _ moment and the country is really struggling to recast itself- moment and the country is really struggling to recast itself as - struggling to recast itself as anything _ struggling to recast itself as anything but _ struggling to recast itself as anything but a _ struggling to recast itself as anything but a country - struggling to recast itself as| anything but a country really fondling _ anything but a country really fondling to _ anything but a country really fondling to deal— anything but a country really fondling to deal with - anything but a country really fondling to deal with really. fondling to deal with really intrinsic— fondling to deal with really intrinsic things— fondling to deal with really intrinsic things like - fondling to deal with really intrinsic things like covid l fondling to deal with really- intrinsic things like covid measures and restrictions. _ intrinsic things like covid measures and restrictions. how— intrinsic things like covid measures and restrictions.— and restrictions. how big a deal would it be _ and restrictions. how big a deal would it be for— and restrictions. how big a deal would it be forjapan _ and restrictions. how big a deal would it be forjapan if- and restrictions. how big a deal would it be forjapan if dealing l would it be forjapan if dealing pics were cancelled altogether? —— if dealing pics were cancelled altogether? it would be a massive problem. they have not— it would be a massive problem. they have not kicked _ it would be a massive problem. they have not kicked off— it would be a massive problem. they have not kicked off and _ it would be a massive problem. they have not kicked off and they've - have not kicked off and they've already— have not kicked off and they've already spent _ have not kicked off and they've already spent $15— have not kicked off and they've already spent $15 billion, - have not kicked off and they've already spent $15 billion, and i have not kicked off and they've. already spent $15 billion, and so have not kicked off and they've . already spent $15 billion, and so i think— already spent $15 billion, and so i think the — already spent $15 billion, and so i think the political— already spent $15 billion, and so i think the political calculation - already spent $15 billion, and so i think the political calculation is i think the political calculation is that they— think the political calculation is that they might _ think the political calculation is that they might as _ think the political calculation is that they might as well - think the political calculation is that they might as well go - think the political calculation is i that they might as well go ahead think the political calculation is - that they might as well go ahead and have the _ that they might as well go ahead and have the event— that they might as well go ahead and have the event and _ that they might as well go ahead and have the event and at _ that they might as well go ahead and have the event and at least - that they might as well go ahead and have the event and at least be - that they might as well go ahead and have the event and at least be able l have the event and at least be able to recoup _ have the event and at least be able to recoup some _ have the event and at least be able to recoup some of— have the event and at least be able to recoup some of the _ have the event and at least be able to recoup some of the good - have the event and at least be able to recoup some of the good feeling that might — to recoup some of the good feeling that might come _ to recoup some of the good feeling that might come out _ to recoup some of the good feeling that might come out of— to recoup some of the good feeling that might come out of it— to recoup some of the good feeling that might come out of it once - to recoup some of the good feeling that might come out of it once the i that might come out of it once the flame _ that might come out of it once the flame is _ that might come out of it once the flame is lit. — that might come out of it once the flame is lit, because _ that might come out of it once the flame is lit, because if— that might come out of it once the flame is lit, because if it— that might come out of it once the flame is lit, because if it does- that might come out of it once the flame is lit, because if it does not| flame is lit, because if it does not io flame is lit, because if it does not go ahead, — flame is lit, because if it does not go ahead, you're _ flame is lit, because if it does not go ahead, you're gonna _ flame is lit, because if it does not go ahead, you're gonna be - flame is lit, because if it does not go ahead, you're gonna be facedi flame is lit, because if it does not- go ahead, you're gonna be faced with a situation _ go ahead, you're gonna be faced with a situation where _ go ahead, you're gonna be faced with a situation where japanese _ go ahead, you're gonna be faced with a situation where japanese taxpayers| a situation where japanese taxpayers are paying _ a situation where japanese taxpayers are paying for— a situation where japanese taxpayers are paying foran— a situation where japanese taxpayers are paying for an event— a situation where japanese taxpayers are paying for an event that - a situation where japanese taxpayers are paying for an event that never. are paying for an event that never took _ are paying for an event that never took place — are paying for an event that never took place that _ are paying for an event that never took place. that would _ are paying for an event that never took place. that would be - took place. that would be catastrophic— took place. that would be catastrophic for— took place. that would be catastrophic for the - took place. that would be catastrophic for the rulingj took place. that would be - catastrophic for the ruling party, and i_ catastrophic for the ruling party, and i do — catastrophic for the ruling party, and i do not _ catastrophic for the ruling party, and i do not know— catastrophic for the ruling party, and i do not know if— catastrophic for the ruling party, and i do not know if they- catastrophic for the ruling party, and i do not know if they will- catastrophic for the ruling party, i and i do not know if they will ever really _ and i do not know if they will ever really recovered _ and i do not know if they will ever really recovered from _ and i do not know if they will ever really recovered from it. - and i do not know if they will ever really recovered from it. jonathan, do ou really recovered from it. jonathan, do you think _ really recovered from it. jonathan, do you think it _ really recovered from it. jonathan, do you think it would _ really recovered from it. jonathan, do you think it would be _ really recovered from it. jonathan, do you think it would be much - really recovered from it. jonathan, do you think it would be much of. really recovered from it. jonathan, i do you think it would be much of the
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games even if it does go ahead, given that in many parts of the world because of the effects of covid, a lot of the qualifying events have not happened, a lot of the athletes who would normally have taken place have not been able to taken place have not been able to take part in those because either they have had covid or they have been isolated, some of not wanted to been isolated, some of not wanted to be involved because they've been nervous would be involved in competitive events, whether the whole covid affectjust colours the whole covid affectjust colours the whole event in a way that means it will never be seen as a conventional traditional and therefore successful olympics? i traditional and therefore successful ol mics? ., ., ~' traditional and therefore successful ol mics? ., ., ~ traditional and therefore successful olmics? ., ., ~ , olympics? i do not think it can be fulton in 1894, _ olympics? i do not think it can be fulton in 1894, the _ olympics? i do not think it can be fulton in 1894, the other- olympics? i do not think it can be fulton in 1894, the other the - olympics? i do not think it can be i fulton in 1894, the other the motto was proposed to be faster, higher stronger, but they do not think he was talk about disease infection rates, so i am afraid that however important the games are, the wider health of mankind has to comes first. the linta games are to spread brotherhood between nations, and thatis brotherhood between nations, and that is using sport is a common language to express that human drive
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to excellence, but i do not think anything could be less in keeping with that double spirit than spreading a potentially deadly virus, allowing new variance to spread around the world freely, not least when osaka has people who have died because they've run out of hospital beds less than 3% of the japanese population has been inoculated, nearly 60% of people in japan do not even want to games there any more at all, one of the great legacies of the olympics in every city it goes to is the promotion, sports and therefore improvement in health, without will not be the case for this olympics. it cannot be seen as the oven pics of good health. cannot be seen as dealing pics forfair of good health. cannot be seen as dealing pics for fair play. of good health. cannot be seen as dealing pics forfair play. hejust needs to be cancelled i think it. jeffrey, cancelling it would be a big deal not for the pen, notjust for the international of the committee but action for all those very big sponsors, the people involved in the broadcasting rights, the rest of it, a lot of money that hangs on and olympics now. these are not a significant business
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opportunities, vindictive games, and more thanjust however opportunities, vindictive games, and more than just however important the sporting —— olympic games. we cannot ignore that. we sporting -- olympic games. we cannot ianore that. ~ ., . . , ignore that. we cannot have anything at this oint ignore that. we cannot have anything at this point recognise _ ignore that. we cannot have anything at this point recognise that _ ignore that. we cannot have anything at this point recognise that the - ignore that. we cannot have anything at this point recognise that the ioc i at this point recognise that the ioc is driving _ at this point recognise that the ioc is driving this as much as the government, or more than the government, or more than the government ofjapan, and the threats against _ government ofjapan, and the threats against the _ government ofjapan, and the threats against the government ofjapan if they cancel this are huge in monetary terms, as we've already noted, _ monetary terms, as we've already noted, they've already spent billions — noted, they've already spent billions and billions on these games _ billions and billions on these games. the olympics were in trouble before _ games. the olympics were in trouble before all— games. the olympics were in trouble before all of this. we have seen in the last— before all of this. we have seen in the last ten— before all of this. we have seen in the last ten to 15 years, fewer and fewer— the last ten to 15 years, fewer and fewer cities — the last ten to 15 years, fewer and fewer cities offering to host the games— fewer cities offering to host the games because, far from being an opportunity to rebrand and project an image — opportunity to rebrand and project an image to the world, they come at hu-e an image to the world, they come at huge costs~ — an image to the world, they come at huge costs i— an image to the world, they come at huge costs. i covered the 2012 olympics— huge costs. i covered the 2012 olympics from getting to and for abc news here _ olympics from getting to and for abc news here in london, and it was a thrill. _ news herein london, and it was a thrill. it— news here in london, and it was a thrill. it was— news here in london, and it was a thrill, it was a success, it was... london — thrill, it was a success, it was... london pulled it off. it was about
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collegiality, community, till athletes got to meet each other, people _ athletes got to meet each other, people came, they felt good, london really— people came, they felt good, london really managed to do this in a way that was— really managed to do this in a way that was extraordinary, but i think we will— that was extraordinary, but i think we will look back and say, rio struggled after that, they pulled it off, but— struggled after that, they pulled it off, but with great political cost domestically. i think this is a real turning _ domestically. i think this is a real turning point. there is a day of reckoning _ turning point. there is a day of reckoning. it was going to come. it is too _ reckoning. it was going to come. it is too expensive to float around from _ is too expensive to float around from city — is too expensive to float around from city to city every four years. it is from city to city every four years. it is to _ from city to city every four years. it is to begin ask. something is going _ it is to begin ask. something is going to — it is to begin ask. something is going to have to give, whether it is a permanent ora going to have to give, whether it is a permanent or a road of a few cities — a permanent or a road of a few cities. otherwise we're not democratic countries take this, it is going — democratic countries take this, it is going to — democratic countries take this, it is going to be autocratic countries that do— is going to be autocratic countries that do this and declare and use dirty— that do this and declare and use dirty money to build support facilities. it isjust not viable to see this — facilities. it isjust not viable to see this model go ahead. and it is sad. see this model go ahead. and it is sad these — see this model go ahead. and it is sad. these athletes have trained, there _ sad. these athletes have trained, there ism — sad. these athletes have trained, there is... those who cannot go, then— there is... those who cannot go, then i_ there is... those who cannot go, then i could _ there is... those who cannot go, then i could get another chance, many— then i could get another chance, many of— then i could get another chance, many of them, as they go order and
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life passes — many of them, as they go order and life passes them by. and it comes at hu-e life passes them by. and it comes at huge cost, _ life passes them by. and it comes at huge cost, but i have to agree with jonathan, — huge cost, but i have to agree with jonathan, thisjust complete the undermines and discredits the notion of the _ undermines and discredits the notion of the other— undermines and discredits the notion of the other thick ideals, and is much _ of the other thick ideals, and is much to— of the other thick ideals, and is much to elect some degree of normalcy— much to elect some degree of normalcy during this incredibly difficult — normalcy during this incredibly difficult period, the cost of it is so enormous that it really becomes impossible — so enormous that it really becomes impossible tojustify so enormous that it really becomes impossible to justify its on human terms. _ impossible to justify its on human terms, putting aside the monetary cost, _ terms, putting aside the monetary cost, which — terms, putting aside the monetary cost, which has to take a back—seat. interesting. — cost, which has to take a back—seat. interesting, celia, jeffrey they're talking about the 2012 olympics was to buy was in singapore, which was the meeting where the bid cities came together and had to lobby the ioc. a phenomenal event. we had the president arriving from paris, tony blair, people queuing down the stairs once again beat him, because he was the big rock star of international politics, and arguably his lobbying helped tip the balance in london's favour. that is what people who were there of all political persuasions and none told me, but even for london in 2012 it
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was a big price, there lots of fears about security, the cost going out of control, about whether things work and happen on time. in the end they did, there is big risk even if it goes ahead forjapan, because now on top of it, giving it with empty stadia, with all this restrictions on people, it is not one to be the fun event that perhaps many would have hoped it could be. the fun event that perhaps many would have hoped it could be.— have hoped it could be. the sin, i've have hoped it could be. the sin, i've been _ have hoped it could be. the sin, i've been talking _ have hoped it could be. the sin, i've been talking to _ have hoped it could be. the sin, i've been talking to other - have hoped it could be. the sin, i've been talking to other the i i've been talking to other the organisers _ i've been talking to other the organisers i_ i've been talking to other the organisers. i know— i've been talking to other the organisers. i know we - i've been talking to other the organisers. i know we are i i've been talking to other the i organisers. i know we are being i've been talking to other the - organisers. i know we are being very down, _ organisers. i know we are being very down, but _ organisers. i know we are being very down, but i — organisers. i know we are being very down, but i will— organisers. i know we are being very down, but i will tell— organisers. i know we are being very down, but i will tell you _ organisers. i know we are being very down, but i will tell you what - organisers. i know we are being very down, but i will tell you what they. down, but i will tell you what they have told — down, but i will tell you what they have told me. _ down, but i will tell you what they have told me, and _ down, but i will tell you what they have told me, and i— down, but i will tell you what they have told me, and i think- down, but i will tell you what they have told me, and i think there i down, but i will tell you what they have told me, and i think there is| have told me, and i think there is an element— have told me, and i think there is an element of— have told me, and i think there is an element of truth _ have told me, and i think there is an element of truth to _ have told me, and i think there is an element of truth to this. - have told me, and i think there is an element of truth to this. for. have told me, and i think there is i an element of truth to this. for the global— an element of truth to this. for the global spectators _ an element of truth to this. for the global spectators watching - an element of truth to this. for the global spectators watching at - an element of truth to this. for the. global spectators watching at home, it might _ global spectators watching at home, it might not — global spectators watching at home, it might not look— global spectators watching at home, it might not look that _ global spectators watching at home, it might not look that different, i it might not look that different, actually — it might not look that different, actually you _ it might not look that different, actually. you will— it might not look that different, actually. you will be _ it might not look that different, actually. you will be able - it might not look that different, actually. you will be able to i it might not look that different, | actually. you will be able to see the athletes _ actually. you will be able to see the athletes compete, - actually. you will be able to see the athletes compete, they- actually. you will be able to see the athletes compete, they are | the athletes compete, they are quite. — the athletes compete, they are quite. ioc— the athletes compete, they are quite, ioc organisers _ the athletes compete, they are quite, ioc organisers are - the athletes compete, they are quite, ioc organisers are very i quite, ioc organisers are very committed _ quite, ioc organisers are very committed to— quite, ioc organisers are very committed to that, _ quite, ioc organisers are very committed to that, for - quite, ioc organisers are very committed to that, for the i quite, ioc organisers are very i committed to that, for the athletes themselves. — committed to that, for the athletes themselves. as _ committed to that, for the athletes themselves, asjeffrey_ committed to that, for the athletes themselves, asjeffrey said, - committed to that, for the athletes themselves, as jeffrey said, who i themselves, asjeffrey said, who have _ themselves, asjeffrey said, who have been— themselves, asjeffrey said, who have been working _ themselves, asjeffrey said, who have been working for _ themselves, asjeffrey said, who have been working for noxious i themselves, as jeffrey said, who i have been working for noxious years but for _ have been working for noxious years but for decades _ have been working for noxious years but for decades in _ have been working for noxious years but for decades in some _ have been working for noxious years but for decades in some instances i have been working for noxious yearsi but for decades in some instances up to this _ but for decades in some instances up to this moment, _ but for decades in some instances up to this moment, they _ but for decades in some instances up to this moment, they will _ but for decades in some instances up to this moment, they will be - but for decades in some instances up to this moment, they will be able i but for decades in some instances up to this moment, they will be able toi to this moment, they will be able to have that _
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to this moment, they will be able to have that moment _ to this moment, they will be able to have that moment that _ to this moment, they will be able to have that moment that they've i to this moment, they will be able to| have that moment that they've been looking _ have that moment that they've been looking forward _ have that moment that they've been looking forward to. _ have that moment that they've been looking forward to. the _ have that moment that they've been looking forward to. the japanese i looking forward to. the japanese organisers — looking forward to. the japanese organisers are _ looking forward to. the japanese organisers are emphatic - looking forward to. the japanese organisers are emphatic that i looking forward to. the japanese i organisers are emphatic that they will maintain _ organisers are emphatic that they will maintain this _ organisers are emphatic that they will maintain this bubble - organisers are emphatic that they will maintain this bubble and i organisers are emphatic that they will maintain this bubble and we i will maintain this bubble and we have _ will maintain this bubble and we have seen— will maintain this bubble and we have seen in— will maintain this bubble and we have seen in other— will maintain this bubble and we have seen in other countries i will maintain this bubble and we l have seen in other countries that they have — have seen in other countries that they have been _ have seen in other countries that they have been able _ have seen in other countries that they have been able to _ have seen in other countries that they have been able to pull- have seen in other countries that they have been able to pull off i have seen in other countries that i they have been able to pull off mass events _ they have been able to pull off mass events and _ they have been able to pull off mass events and able _ they have been able to pull off mass events and able to _ they have been able to pull off mass events and able to maintain - they have been able to pull off mass events and able to maintain these i events and able to maintain these bubbles, — events and able to maintain these bubbles, so — events and able to maintain these bubbles, so i _ events and able to maintain these bubbles, so i know— events and able to maintain these bubbles, so i know that _ events and able to maintain these bubbles, so i know that japan i events and able to maintain these i bubbles, so i know that japan wants to go— bubbles, so i know that japan wants to go forward — bubbles, so i know that japan wants to go forward with _ bubbles, so i know that japan wants to go forward with this _ bubbles, so i know that japan wants to go forward with this moment i bubbles, so i know that japan wants i to go forward with this moment where we can— to go forward with this moment where we can all— to go forward with this moment where we can all feel— to go forward with this moment where we can all feel as _ to go forward with this moment where we can all feel as one _ to go forward with this moment where we can all feel as one and _ to go forward with this moment where we can all feel as one and feel- to go forward with this moment where we can all feel as one and feel that i we can all feel as one and feel that kind of— we can all feel as one and feel that kind of light — we can all feel as one and feel that kind of light at _ we can all feel as one and feel that kind of light at the _ we can all feel as one and feel that kind of light at the end _ we can all feel as one and feel that kind of light at the end of- we can all feel as one and feel that kind of light at the end of the - kind of light at the end of the tunnel— kind of light at the end of the tunnel feeling. _ kind of light at the end of the tunnel feeling. and _ kind of light at the end of the tunnel feeling. and maybe i kind of light at the end of the i tunnel feeling. and maybe they kind of light at the end of the - tunnel feeling. and maybe they will do it, _ tunnel feeling. and maybe they will do it. maybe — tunnel feeling. and maybe they will do it. maybe we _ tunnel feeling. and maybe they will do it, maybe we are _ tunnel feeling. and maybe they will do it, maybe we are ten— tunnel feeling. and maybe they will do it, maybe we are ten weeks- tunnel feeling. and maybe they will do it, maybe we are ten weeks out, maybe _ do it, maybe we are ten weeks out, maybe in— do it, maybe we are ten weeks out, maybe in 12 — do it, maybe we are ten weeks out, maybe in 12 weeks' _ do it, maybe we are ten weeks out, maybe in 12 weeks' time, _ do it, maybe we are ten weeks out, maybe in 12 weeks' time, we - do it, maybe we are ten weeks out, maybe in 12 weeks' time, we will. do it, maybe we are ten weeks out, j maybe in 12 weeks' time, we will be all thinkings— maybe in 12 weeks' time, we will be all thinkings on _ maybe in 12 weeks' time, we will be all thinkings on the _ maybe in 12 weeks' time, we will be all thinkings on the quite _ all thinkings on the quite different. _ all thinkings on the quite different. if— all thinkings on the quite different.— all thinkings on the quite different. ., all thinkings on the quite different. . ., different. if we are, we will do it aaain on different. if we are, we will do it again on this _ different. if we are, we will do it again on this programme, i different. if we are, we will do it again on this programme, and i different. if we are, we will do it. again on this programme, and we different. if we are, we will do it i again on this programme, and we can all of us eat humble pie, but i'm just going to ask you one quick question before we go. in your fantasy come in your dreams, if you could be an olympian in any sport, what would you be, jonathan? put me on the spot! — what would you be, jonathan? put me on the spot! i — what would you be, jonathan? put me on the spot! i think— what would you be, jonathan? put me on the spot! i think watching - what would you be, jonathan? put me on the spot! i think watching the i on the spot! i think watching the news does not count! that on the spot! i think watching the news does not count!— news does not count! that is a co out. news does not count! that is a «mom. jeffrey. _ news does not count! that is a «mom. jeffrey. i _ news does not count! that is a copout. jeffrey, i have - news does not count! that is a copout. jeffrey, i have seen i news does not count! that is a l copout. jeffrey, i have seen you news does not count! that is a - copout. jeffrey, i have seen you on copout. jeffrey, i have seen you on a cycle, so would have to be
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cycling. a cycle, so would have to be clinu. ,, a, a cycle, so would have to be clinu. ,, c, c, cycling. you are right, i love cycling. _ cycling. you are right, i love cycling. but _ cycling. you are right, i love cycling. but i _ cycling. you are right, i love cycling, but i have _ cycling. you are right, i love cycling, but i have to - cycling. you are right, i love cycling, but i have to say, i cycling. you are right, i love. cycling, but i have to say, the beauty— cycling, but i have to say, the beauty of— cycling, but i have to say, the beauty of a living rubbing is always captivated — beauty of a living rubbing is always captivated me. there's something that, _ captivated me. there's something that, that — captivated me. there's something that, that really captures me. celia? — that, that really captures me. celia? i — that, that really captures me. celia? ., that, that really captures me. celia? . . . . that, that really captures me. celia? . . ., ., ., ., that, that really captures me. celia? . . ., ., ., celia? i am canadian - i have to say fiaure celia? i am canadian - i have to say figure skating! _ that's it for dateline london for this week — my thanks to celia hatton, jonathan sacerdoti and jeffrey kofman. programme back next weekend. goodbye. nothing new in the forecast that's going to surprise you. brollies at the ready this weekend. it's going to be very changeable, downpours expected, frequent in some parts of the country, and the possibility of hail and thunder as well, and gusty winds.
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low pressure will be drifting across the uk on friday night into saturday and will still be influencing our weather come tuesday. now, the jet stream is south of us. when the jet stream is south of us, that means that the cooler weather from the northern climes is in place, and you can see the air streams of cooler weather coming in straight out of the arctic. low pressures are spinning up here, then we have the jet stream, that dividing line, and all of the warmth which we want is deflected to the south. and this pattern is pretty much locked across the uk. now, here's the rainfall accumulation map, so it tells us how much rain we're going to get this weekend, and in some parts of the country a good 10, 20 millimetres of rain from those heavy showers we're going to be getting. so, the forecast, then, for friday night and into saturday shows the weather front spreading across the uk. you can see mostly dry weather there across scotland and the north east of england, as well as east anglia, but as far as central, southern england is concerned,
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wales and also the irish sea coasts, i think, rain first thing in the morning. but not cold, temperatures will be around 5—9 degrees early on saturday. so, tomorrow, then, the weather front makes its journey forwards. notice it's not raining everywhere, but once this weather front clears, the skies tend to clear as well. we'll see sunshine and then with this unstable air, which allows to grow those big shower clouds, we'll see downpours developing with the thunder and lightning. but the showers are very discreet, sometimes they're only 10, 20 miles across, and around it, there'll be plenty of sunshine around, so it really is a lottery where the showers will hit. now, sunday is going to be another very showery day. it looks as though most of them will be across england and wales, but certainly a scattering of them also across northern ireland and scotland. i'd say the showers on sunday are going to be even more heavy with more frequent downpours across england and wales, hail and thunder, too. and this weather will continue into next week.
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