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this is bbc news. i'm lukwesa burak. the headlines at eight: people in areas where the indian variant of coronavirus is spreading are urged to get a covid vaccination. testing and vaccination are really important measures that we have, i suppose, in the tool box for controlling outbreaks. a gaza city tower block, used by international media offices, has been destroyed by the israeli military. they claim it was housing hamas military assets. hamas was using that building. its military intelligence had assets in that building that were part of the hamas war machine. meanwhile in london, thousands of pro—palestinian protesters marched to the gates of the israeli embassy. wreath laying services have
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been held across the uk and around the world to mark the centenary of the royal british legion. leicester city lift the fa cup for the first time as youri tielemans' stunning long—range goal earned the foxes victory over chelsea at wembley. the doctors' union, the british medical association, has voiced concern that the easing of coronavirus restrictions in england is going ahead on monday, while the indian variant is spreading rapidly, and many people are still waiting for a vaccine. ministers insist they're acting "coolly and calmly",
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and there's no evidence that the new variety poses a greater risk to health. —— the new variant. however, their scientific advisers have warned that the indian variant is more contagious than previous types and, after monday's unlocking, could trigger the biggest wave of infections so far. our health correspondent katherine da costa reports. out on the streets of bolton in greater manchester, this rapid response team is going door—to—door, handing out test kits as authorities here and in other hotspots race to contain the more contagious indian variant. we're asking people to please take a test if you don't have any symptoms so we can identify people who may be positive and then support them through the isolation period. excuse me, keep walking. there are surge vaccinations, too. at this site in bolton, they have ramped up to 4,000 shots per day. while vaccines are expected
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to protect against serious illness from this variant, it's thought they may not completely stop transmission so the advice now is to shorten the gap between doses to eight weeks for the most vulnerable, to boost short—term immunity. there is a bit of a trade—off here because we know 12 weeks is better in terms of long term protection but we think there is enough of a crisis with this particular virus in the country at the moment to make sure that we get those individuals that have only had their first dose fully protected as quickly as possible. this 5k run at kempton park in surrey is a test event to see whether mass outdoor events without social distancing could be brought back safely again. some health experts are concerned allowing indoor mixing from monday and a more transmissible variant risks the variant taking off again, but ministers say it's too soon to say what it will mean for ending lockdown measures next month. we don't know how much more
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transmissible it is yet. so, if it's a low increase in transmissibility, that wouldn't fundamentally, necessarily, change things. if it's a high level then we would have to look carefully at what happens on the 21st ofjune. around 1,000 covid patients are being treated in hospitals across the uk, the lowest level since mid—september, but about a third of adults are still unvaccinated. it's now an anxious wait to see whether new infections translate to a rise in hospital admissions in the weeks to come. katharine da costa, bbc news. markjit, professor of vaccine epidemiology at the london school of hygiene and tropical medicine, says there's not enough data yet to determine how much of a risk the variant poses. we spoke to him earlier. well, it's very difficult to say right now because we don't have as much information as we would like, but the signs we're seeing are slightly worrying. i mean, we've seen this variant
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increase very rapidly and we've seen a big wave of cases in india. we've seen the variant has come to the uk, and in some parts of the uk, it's now well over 50% of all cases reported. so, it seems to be growing faster than the existing variants we have in the uk, although these are still early days, so it's difficult to say for sure. we've also seen some countries in southeast asia for instance, which seemed to have very good control of covid, now seeing outbreaks caused by this variant, so there do seem to be some rather alarming signs. how transmissible do you think it is? i mean, iappreciate we don't actually know, but there are suggestions it could be 50%, 60% even, more transmissible. well, those are the estimates that people have made based on very preliminary data, but it's really too early to tell because a lot of the initial cases were due to people coming from abroad. so, it's only now that we're seeing cases actually due to transmission from these people, so now, as we get more data,
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we should be able to have more certainty about whether that figure is correct. that was professor markjit. later in this half hour, we'll be answering your questions on the indian covid variant and the risks to easing restrictions. i will bejoined by professor sian griffiths from the chinese university of hong kong and professor paul hunter from the university of east anglia. that's at 8.15. hope you join us for that. the latest figures show a further 2,027 cases have been confirmed in the latest 24—hour period, meaning an average of 2,252 new cases reported per day in the last week. seven deaths were reported in the latest 24—hour period, and the seven—day average now sits at ten deaths. meanwhile, latest government data
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show continued decrease in the number of people at hospital. the most recent data says 991 people are in hospital receiving treatment for covid—19. the white house says it has told israel to ensure the "safety and security ofjournalists" after israeli warplanes destroyed a tower block in gaza city. 0ccupants of the building, which housed the associated press and aljazeera, were given an hour to leave. israel claims the block was used by hamas's military intelligence. it follows rocket attacks by hamas militants, which killed one man in tel aviv. an israeli strike overnight on a refugee camp killed at least 11; people, ten of them from one extended family. 0ur middle east correspondent yolande knell reports from the west bank. within seconds, another tower block
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erased from gaza's skyline. journalists for international networks who worked inside rushed out after a warning from israel that it was about to strike. it says hamas intelligence used the building. earlier, a barrage of rockets hit tel aviv for the first time in two days, with deadly results. emergency services unable to save a man here. in gaza, there has been almost no time to mourn as the numbers killed mount up. mohammed lost almost everyone in his family. his wife and their children were staying with her brother when the missiles struck their home in an overcrowded refugee camp. little 0mar is all he has left, found in the rubble next to his mother. with militants continuing to be targeted, images released by israel's military show an operation that is not letting up. officials say dealing a strong blow to deter hamas will take more time.
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and hamas is not stopping its fire either. its rockets, as always, are indiscriminate, continuing to pour down on the israeli towns closest to gaza. tensions here remain high in israel's mixed cities wherejews and arabs live side by side. there were more disturbances overnight. today, this was jaffa, the streets deserted. and now the focus turns to the palestinian territories. this is a solemn day when palestinians remember the dispossession of hundreds of thousands of people when israel was created in 19118. they call it al—nakba, "the catastrophe." and this year, the violence elsewhere adds extra fuel to the protests. let's discuss this further. 0ver now to washington and our correspondent will grant,
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we understand there have been diplomatic at their roots of taking plates with president biden —— diplomatic efforts in. i plates with president biden -- diplomatic efforts in.— plates with president biden -- diplomatic efforts in. i think as the escalation _ diplomatic efforts in. i think as the escalation of— diplomatic efforts in. i think as the escalation of the _ diplomatic efforts in. i think as the escalation of the violence i diplomatic efforts in. i think as i the escalation of the violence has been taking place, there is a sort of escalation of the diplomacy here in washington too. president biden has spoken to the palestinian president. if the first time the two men have spoken since president biden took office injanuary. i think a sign of the severity in the crisis. they share desire thatjerusalem be, as they put it, a place of peaceful coexistence for people of all faiths. but i think what was interesting is that president biden updated the palestinian president ahead of a meeting on the security council on sunday. he stressed as
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one might expect the need for hamas to cease firing rockets into israel. of course, he also spoke to the of course, he also spoke to the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, too. that's not the first time the two men have spoken. sort of increased diplomacy in washington amid this of increased diplomacy in washington amid thi . v of increased diplomacy in washington amid thi . �*, ., ., , amid this what's feeling amongst democrats? _ amid this what's feeling amongst democrats? president _ amid this what's feeling amongst democrats? president biden's i democrats? president biden�*s policy... what is the feeling in washington? i policy. .. what is the feeling in washington?— washington? i think it's been interesting. _ washington? i think it's been interesting, and _ washington? i think it's been interesting, and he _ washington? i think it's been interesting, and he pointed l washington? i think it's been i interesting, and he pointed this out, he reinstated the humanitarian aid to the palestinian authority, to the region. of course, on picking president trump's legacy in the area. of course there will be democrats who want the situation to
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move further, for there to be greater condemnation of what happened in terms of the air strike on the building that housed al jazeera and the associated press. he did make comment of that in a sense in the discussions where he said the safety and security of journalists, he raced concerned the need to ensure their protection. i think it's an area that's always going to divide the democrats. there are those who would like the president and the white house to go further, but of course there are historic and important links between israel and the white house, and it's going to be very difficult forjoe biden to pick apart through this crisis. he has expressed expectation for the fighting to end soon, but currently, there is very little sign of that. will, i wonder if you could go back to the fact there is significant that there has been this conversation with the palestinian
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president, but many commentators have made the point that the silence is deafening in terms of commentary or reaction from the pla. how does that play in with hamas? because there is confusing as to why people are waiting for the president to speak. it are waiting for the president to seak. , ., , are waiting for the president to seak. ,. , , speak. it is an extremely complex situation. from... _ speak. it is an extremely complex situation. from... i— speak. it is an extremely complex situation. from... ithink- speak. it is an extremely complex situation. from... ithink it- speak. it is an extremely complex situation. from... i think it was. situation. from... i think it was the logical place forjoe biden to go. this was due to happen at some stage. it's not surprising that it happened at this point. the reality on the ground is one that... i'm not sure whether or not at this stage thatis sure whether or not at this stage that is something he will be doing. 0bviously, that is something he will be doing. obviously, there is this un security council to take place on sunday. we'll see how this changes the perspective, but i think at the moment, these are still quite early daysin moment, these are still quite early days injoe biden�*s administration.
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i think the strategy still needs to be figuring out as this is happening. they really have to essentially work with what they've got. we will wait and see how the security council meeting changes that. ~ ., ., ~ security council meeting changes that. ~ . ., ~ , that. will grant, thank you very much indeed. _ and we'll find out how this story — and many others — are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10:30 and 11:30 this evening in the papers. 0ur guestsjoining me tonight are geraldine scott, westminster correspondent at the yorkshire post, and tim montgomerie, conservative commentator. i hope you will be with us as well. in central london, earlier today, thousands marched in solidarity with the palestinian people. a large crowd moved through hyde park to the israeli embassy. similar rallies have been held in other cities in the uk and elsewhere in the world.
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0ur correspondentjames waterhouse was watching. so, this is the final destination for the protest, if you like, kensington high street. because of the ways the roads are designed, the israeli embassy for the exits further down to the left there down a private road, with police guard as you would expect with different kind of embassies, but that has not stopped people here wanting to be seen and heard. you speak to people here, they don't see it as a conflict, they call it out and out oppression in terms of what is going on in the gaza strip and other palestinian territories. the core message is for the israelis to stop the air strikes that are currently taking place and for the uk government to intervene. now, as people are taking to the streets, they first appeared on hyde park corner, which is about a mile and a half or so away. they came through and they were singing. it's been passionate, but it has also been peaceful. there are a minority of people who climate scaffolding here. the police have taken hands off
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approach and successfully talked many of them down. but as all of this activity is happening, us negotiators are in the middle east calling on both sides to step down. a feeling here is that won't do anything anytime soon. that was james waterhouse. and now, let's return to the concerns surrounding the indian variant of covid—19. it's time for your questions answered. you've been sending in lots of questions about the indian variant and how it could impact the uk's road map. here to answer them is public health expert, professor sian griffiths and the university of east anglia's professor paul hunter. lovely to see you.
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good evening to both of you professors. let us begin. a question to both of you. if i could ask you, professor griffiths, to start off. how does a coven infected person get confirmed as having the indian variant and not the wuhan strain —— covid. this comes from paul monro. paul, this is about genomic sequencing. you will have heard a lot of talk about variants in the way we decide what a variance is is by looking at the sequence, it's genetic make what. we have variants of concerned and the indian variant is an adaptation from the wuhan virus, which started in china back in 2020. ., , ., , in 2020. professor hunter was blue i think the thing _
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in 2020. professor hunter was blue i think the thing to _ in 2020. professor hunter was blue i think the thing to say _ in 2020. professor hunter was blue i think the thing to say is _ in 2020. professor hunter was blue i think the thing to say is not - think the thing to say is not everyone — think the thing to say is not everyone has _ think the thing to say is not everyone has their - think the thing to say is not everyone has their sample | think the thing to say is not - everyone has their sample sequence. we are _ everyone has their sample sequence. we are only— everyone has their sample sequence. we are only sequencing about 40 to 50% each _ we are only sequencing about 40 to 50% each week of samples, so many people _ 50% each week of samples, so many pe0pie with — 50% each week of samples, so many people with the, any of the indian variants _ people with the, any of the indian variants won't have any of their strange — variants won't have any of their strange sequence and won't know whether— strange sequence and won't know whether or— strange sequence and won't know whether or not they've had that. what _ whether or not they've had that. what we're doing is because we're taking _ what we're doing is because we're taking a _ what we're doing is because we're taking a sample, we can get a good idea of— taking a sample, we can get a good idea of what's happening over all, but it's— idea of what's happening over all, but it's difficult to pinpoint individuals if they've not had their sample _ individuals if they've not had their sample sink which. the individuals if they've not had their sample sink which.— individuals if they've not had their sample sink which. the next comes from ro . sample sink which. the next comes from roy- it — sample sink which. the next comes from roy. it has _ sample sink which. the next comes from roy. it has been _ sample sink which. the next comes from roy. it has been established l from roy. it has been established whether the current vaccines give protection against the indian variant? if so, what sort of efficiency do they have against it compared with other strains? professor griffiths, your thoughts on that? i professor griffiths, your thoughts on that? ~ , , ., , professor griffiths, your thoughts onthat? ~ , , .,
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on that? i think this is really one for professor _ on that? i think this is really one for professor hunter. _ on that? i think this is really one for professor hunter. i'm - on that? i think this is really one for professor hunter. i'm going i on that? i think this is really one | for professor hunter. i'm going to pass it to him. for professor hunter. i'm going to pass it to him-— for professor hunter. i'm going to pass it to him. fiiq yeah, we don't pass it to him. 0k. yeah, we don't know... there _ pass it to him. 0k. yeah, we don't know... there are actually three indian _ know... there are actually three indian variants. the first one that was discovered in the uk dates back to about _ was discovered in the uk dates back to about late february. we do know that that _ to about late february. we do know that that one was more resistant to vaccine _ that that one was more resistant to vaccine than the tents variant —— kent _ vaccine than the tents variant —— kent it— vaccine than the tents variant —— kent it was— vaccine than the tents variant —— kent. it was controlled by vaccine, but not _ kent. it was controlled by vaccine, but not as — kent. it was controlled by vaccine, but not as well. it's not a yes or no thing. — but not as well. it's not a yes or no thing. it's— but not as well. it's not a yes or no thing, it's often a gradual thino — no thing, it's often a gradual thing. with the indian variant two, one that's — thing. with the indian variant two, one that's actually increasing quite rapidly, _ one that's actually increasing quite rapidly, that lost one of its escape mutations — rapidly, that lost one of its escape mutations. so, although the data isn't out — mutations. so, although the data isn't out there yet, we would expect it to he _ isn't out there yet, we would expect
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it to be somewhat more affected by vaccine _ it to be somewhat more affected by vaccine than indian one. i think initiat— vaccine than indian one. i think initial suggestions, although not yet initial suggestions, although not vet in _ initial suggestions, although not yet in any — initial suggestions, although not yet in any scientific paper can sopport— yet in any scientific paper can support that suggestion. so a little bit more _ support that suggestion. so a little bit more resistant than the tents variant, — bit more resistant than the tents variant, but not as resistant as the south _ variant, but not as resistant as the south african variant.— south african variant. professor griffiths. we — south african variant. professor griffiths. we have _ south african variant. professor griffiths. we have a _ south african variant. professor griffiths. we have a question i south african variant. professor i griffiths. we have a question here from calve masters. how did this indian variant to get into the uk? it was obviously imported from india but we have to remember the variant is now in many countries so we can't... that it's obviously more logical to think cases come from india, but we know this screen is in australia. it's in the us, it's in
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the europe —— in europe. this is a widely distributed train and very transmissible.— widely distributed train and very transmissible. ., , ,., transmissible. professor hunter, we have a question _ transmissible. professor hunter, we have a question from _ transmissible. professor hunter, we have a question from birmingham. | have a question from birmingham. paul says is this virus more transmissible, because of its interaction with our immune systems, or is it longer—lasting on surfaces? probably neither of those. we don't know— probably neither of those. we don't know for— probably neither of those. we don't know for certain, but the early evidence — know for certain, but the early evidence is that it's probably more infectious — evidence is that it's probably more infectious because it gets into people's— infectious because it gets into people's cells more easily. 0ne infectious because it gets into people's cells more easily. one of the mutations that isn't discussed very often— the mutations that isn't discussed very often is p 681 r, and not set a point _ very often is p 681 r, and not set a point in— very often is p 681 r, and not set a point inthe— very often is p 681 r, and not set a point in the protein that you need to break— point in the protein that you need to break those proteins apart to help the — to break those proteins apart to help the virus get into the cells. the suggestion is that that actually helps _ the suggestion is that that actually helps that, and that means if it's easier— helps that, and that means if it's easier for— helps that, and that means if it's easier for a — helps that, and that means if it's easier for a virus to get into
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cells, — easier for a virus to get into cells, it's— easier for a virus to get into cells, it's probably more infectious. in a way, that was probably— infectious. in a way, that was probably how the contract variant became _ probably how the contract variant became more infection as well, andm — became more infection as well, andm so— became more infection as well, and... so you don't have to have quite _ and... so you don't have to have quite as— and... so you don't have to have quite as much virus in the body for it to take _ quite as much virus in the body for it to take hold. can quite as much virus in the body for it to take hold.— it to take hold. can i ask a question _ it to take hold. can i ask a question on _ it to take hold. can i ask a question on my _ it to take hold. can i ask a question on my own. - it to take hold. can i ask a question on my own. how| it to take hold. can i ask a l question on my own. how is it to take hold. can i ask a - question on my own. how is it that are scientists are saying we don't know yet how transmissible it is? they've been tracking it, haven't they? they've been tracking it, haven't the ? , . ., ., they've been tracking it, haven't the ? , . . ., , they? they have and we heard chris whi sa they? they have and we heard chris whittv sav yesterday _ they? they have and we heard chris whitty say yesterday that _ they? they have and we heard chris whitty say yesterday that it - they? they have and we heard chris whitty say yesterday that it is - they? they have and we heard chris whitty say yesterday that it is more | whitty say yesterday that it is more infectious _ whitty say yesterday that it is more infectious than the kent variant. i think— infectious than the kent variant. i think the — infectious than the kent variant. i think the evidence is clear because all we _ think the evidence is clear because all we have — think the evidence is clear because all we have to do is look at the fact that — all we have to do is look at the fact that the kent variant at the moment— fact that the kent variant at the moment is in steep decline in the uk, whereas the india two variant
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sees _ uk, whereas the india two variant sees a _ uk, whereas the india two variant sees a steep increase. the only inflammation is either that it's so much _ inflammation is either that it's so much more — inflammation is either that it's so much more persistent to immunity or it's more _ much more persistent to immunity or it's more infectious, and we've already— it's more infectious, and we've already said it probably isn't that much _ already said it probably isn't that much more resistant to immunity than the contract _ much more resistant to immunity than the contract variant. so, it has to hem _ the contract variant. so, it has to hem the — the contract variant. so, it has to be... the issue is how much more infectious, — be... the issue is how much more infectious, as— be... the issue is how much more infectious, as chris whitty said, but if— infectious, as chris whitty said, but if it's— infectious, as chris whitty said, but if it's very infectious, it could — but if it's very infectious, it could he _ but if it's very infectious, it could he a _ but if it's very infectious, it could be a real problem for us. if it's only— could be a real problem for us. if it's only moderately infectious, it may well— it's only moderately infectious, it may well be something that we can still manage within the existing road _ still manage within the existing road map out of lockdown. professor griffiths, david — road map out of lockdown. professor griffiths, david says _ road map out of lockdown. professor griffiths, david says what _ road map out of lockdown. professor griffiths, david says what happened, j griffiths, david says what happened, or what's happened to the brazilian variant and the south african one? well, they're still around. they just haven't taken off in the numbers in the way that the indian
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variant has, and this may be partly due to vaccination. 0bviously, variant has, and this may be partly due to vaccination. obviously, the reason we know about the different variants is that numbers of tests will get sent off to have their genomic sequencing done, but it's only some of the positive tests that get sent off. but today, we haven't seen those particular variants spreading. it could also be to do with the surge testing that took place when there was a cluster of south african variants, and the community in which the cluster was found that was surge testing, and health measures were taken in addition. {lin health measures were taken in addition. , , . ., , , . addition. on the sub'ect of public health measures, _ addition. on the subject of public health measures, professor- addition. on the subject of public i health measures, professor hunter, all live from reigate says why is the government not locking us down?
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it is a very difficult choice. it is certainly— it is a very difficult choice. it is certainly plausible that in three or four weeks, we look back and think why didn't — four weeks, we look back and think why didn't we lockdown longer. ultimately, it has to be a political decision— ultimately, it has to be a political decision rather than a public health decision _ decision rather than a public health decision i— decision rather than a public health decision. i think the evidence at the moment is that it isn't really spreading — the moment is that it isn't really spreading in older age groups that have had _ spreading in older age groups that have had most of the vaccine roll-out, _ have had most of the vaccine roll—out, so... it very much looks as though — roll—out, so... it very much looks as though this will not cause as severe — as though this will not cause as severe disease and vaccinated people as in unvaccinated people, so ultimately, we may welljust be able to ride _ ultimately, we may welljust be able to ride this— ultimately, we may welljust be able to ride this out over the next few weeks _ to ride this out over the next few weeks but— to ride this out over the next few weeks. but it's a very difficult catt~ — weeks. but it's a very difficult catt~ in — weeks. but it's a very difficult call. in four weeks' time, we
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weeks. but it's a very difficult call. in fourweeks' time, we might look back— call. in fourweeks' time, we might took back on— call. in fourweeks' time, we might look back on this and think we made the right— look back on this and think we made the right decision, alternatively, we may— the right decision, alternatively, we may wish we got to lockdown. this is discussing — we may wish we got to lockdown. try 3 is discussing the way it's spreading in china, the original one. if the original covid—19 virus which started spreading in china isn't called the china virus, why would we called the china virus, why would we call variants by their locations? why is that use?— call variants by their locations? why is that use? that's the sort of colloquialism _ why is that use? that's the sort of colloquialism that _ why is that use? that's the sort of colloquialism that is _ why is that use? that's the sort of colloquialism that is used - why is that use? that's the sort of colloquialism that is used as - why is that use? that's the sort of colloquialism that is used as a - colloquialism that is used as a shorthand often for discussion such as this because in a scientific community, you would actually call the indian variant by a sequence of numbers. that gets confusing. i think i said it wrong anyway. so, it's actually about trying to say
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this is where we think the origin of this is where we think the origin of this one was, but in fact, ever since it was called spanish flu, there's been a move against trying to locate viruses by a place because the place become tainted. however, it's used as a colloquialism and scientists will be using that. if i could just say that i really think that one of the things we need to do for the indian variant is to ensure vaccination amongst all those who are eligible for it, and that's really important, particularly in parts of the country where we know we've got clusters. i think pushing vaccination will allow protection to the population. i vaccination will allow protection to the population-— vaccination will allow protection to the population. i think that answers lisa's question. _ the population. i think that answers lisa's question. i'll— the population. i think that answers lisa's question. i'lljust _ the population. i think that answers lisa's question. i'lljust read - the population. i think that answers lisa's question. i'lljust read it - lisa's question. i'lljust read it out. our vaccines being stepped up in areas most affected which we understand alongside young people having the astrazeneca, is this going to delay the under 30s being
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vaccinated? do you have anything to add to that before i asked the next question? i add to that before i asked the next ruestion? ~ , ., �* question? i think it shouldn't delay vaccines. question? i think it shouldn't delay vaccines- if— question? i think it shouldn't delay vaccines. if it _ question? i think it shouldn't delay vaccines. if it does, _ question? i think it shouldn't delay vaccines. if it does, that _ question? i think it shouldn't delay vaccines. if it does, that would - question? i think it shouldn't delay vaccines. if it does, that would be | vaccines. if it does, that would be of great _ vaccines. if it does, that would be of great disappointment. i think it is a very— of great disappointment. i think it is a very difficult balance to make. do you _ is a very difficult balance to make. do you vaccinate people in an area where _ do you vaccinate people in an area where you've already got clusters? because _ where you've already got clusters? because the vaccine doesn't work for about— because the vaccine doesn't work for about two— because the vaccine doesn't work for about two to three weeks anyway. 0r about two to three weeks anyway. or do you _ about two to three weeks anyway. or do you carry— about two to three weeks anyway. or do you carry on vaccinating people in areas _ do you carry on vaccinating people in areas that currently are seeing hi-h in areas that currently are seeing high numbers of cases? but maybe in a couple _ high numbers of cases? but maybe in a couple of— high numbers of cases? but maybe in a couple of weeks, and you carry on vaccinating — a couple of weeks, and you carry on vaccinating that population, then maybe _ vaccinating that population, then maybe you'll have a bigger impact by stopping _ maybe you'll have a bigger impact by stopping further surges in other areas _ stopping further surges in other areas where they're not seeing cases at the _ areas where they're not seeing cases at the moment. that is a very difficult — at the moment. that is a very difficultjudgment call at the moment. that is a very difficult judgment call at the moment, and again, it's one of those decisions _ moment, and again, it's one of those decisions that i'm not entirely sure
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that we _ decisions that i'm not entirely sure that we really know is the best option — that we really know is the best 0 tion. . �* . that we really know is the best otion. . v . . option. that's 'ust it with this virus. option. that's 'ust it with this so — option. that'sjust it with this virus. so many— option. that'sjust it with this virus. so many questions. . option. that's just it with this - virus. so many questions. professor sian griffiths and paul hunter, thank you very much for your time. inafew in a few minutes, we have a special programme in racism in football and what can be done about it. on a more positive note, let's discuss the celebration in wembley. leicester city have won their first ever fa cup, beating chelsea one—nil in the final. the match was played at wembley in front of 21,000 fans, following the relaxation of restrictions on fpectators attending sports events. 0ur sports correspondent natalie pirks was there to watch it. it's another momentous day in the history of this football club. four
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finals in the past, they've lost. they haven't been in an fa cup final for 52 years. what a way to win it. how fitting that it was in front of fans. this goal will go down in leicester folklore. humans fans. this goal will go down in leicesterfolklore. humans bursting leicester folklore. humans bursting through leicesterfolklore. humans bursting through chelsea's defence, and the strike, what an absolute wonder strike, what an absolute wonder strike it was. sending fans into absolute eruptions ofjoy. it's not to say chelsea didn't have their chances. there was absolute drama with just minutes ago, when former leicester player ben chill well burst down leicester's right and was deflected into the goal. chelsea fans went crazy. then drama, rolling it off, pulling it out of sight. at the final whistle, just tears from players, fans and
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