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hello, this is bbc news. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment. first, the headlines. people in areas where the indian variant of coronavirus is spreading, are urged to get a covid vaccination. both testing and vaccination are really important measures that we have, i suppose, in the tool box for controlling outbreaks. a gaza city tower block, used by international media, has been destroyed by the israeli military. they claim it was housing hamas military assets. hamas was using that building. its military intelligence had assets in that building that were part of the hamas war machine. meanwhile in london,
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thousands of pro—palestinian protesters marched to the gates of the israeli embassy. wreath laying services have been held across the uk and around the world to mark the centenary of the royal british legion. leicester city lift the fa cup for the first time as youri tieleman�*s stunning long—range goal earned the foxes victory over chelsea at wembley. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are geraldine scott, the westminster correspondent at the yorkshire post and conservative commentator, tim montgomerie. tomorrow's front pages. borisjohnson is under
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pressure to reconsider monday's relaxation of coronavirus restrictions due to the indian variant, says the observer. but the sunday express says the prime minister �*cannot afford to panic�*, with mps and business urging him to stick to the roadmap. the sunday telegraph says that the government wants to vaccinate as many as a million people a day in order to beat the variant, and "save summer". meanwhile, the independent says thousands of medics working for the government's test and trace service will be sacked to be replaced by cheaper non—clinical employees. so let's begin... hello to you both, tim and geraldine, hello. we are going to start with a front page of the observer, geraldine, kicked off. johnson must think again about plans
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to relax covert rules. == johnson must think again about plans to relax covert rules.— to relax covert rules. -- covid. on monday. — to relax covert rules. -- covid. on monday. we _ to relax covert rules. -- covid. on monday. we are — to relax covert rules. -- covid. on monday, we are supposed - to relax covert rules. -- covid. on monday, we are supposed to - to relax covert rules. -- covid. on monday, we are supposed to get l to relax covert rules. -- covid. on i monday, we are supposed to get the next stage of... there is like a big change. go inside pubs and restaurants and hospitality has welcomed this reopening but, yes, it looks like he is under pressure to put a pause on that because we had seen this rise in india —— in the indian variantand seen this rise in india —— in the indian variant and they are warning in the observer that if we do not put the brakes on, it could lead to a lot more hospitalisations, especially in young people, who of course, many haven't got the jabs yet. i really think that we are probably going to be looking more at the tuna locking that is going to be under pressure here but yes, the observer talking about pressure. —— looking at the june unlocking. observer talking about pressure. ——
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looking at thejune unlocking. tim? looking at the june unlocking. tim? yes, i think— looking at the june unlocking. tim? yes, i think there _ looking at the june unlocking. tim? yes, i think there may _ looking at the june unlocking. tim? yes, i think there may be _ looking at the june unlocking. tim? yes, i think there may be a - looking at the june unlocking. tim? yes, i think there may be a delay to next month's unlocking but i think we are _ next month's unlocking but i think we are too— next month's unlocking but i think we are too far committed now to monday, — we are too far committed now to monday, and it is understandable that people who are focused on the pandemic— that people who are focused on the pandemic are going to be very cautious— pandemic are going to be very cautious in what they are briefing to the _ cautious in what they are briefing to the sunday newspapers. but the government doesn'tjust to the sunday newspapers. but the government doesn't just have to think_ government doesn't just have to think about the covid and its implications, it has to think about the economy, it has to think about the economy, it has to think about the massive — the economy, it has to think about the massive backlog of cancer and other_ the massive backlog of cancer and other operations in the nhs that already— other operations in the nhs that already is— other operations in the nhs that already is huge and a further delay to the _ already is huge and a further delay to the kind — already is huge and a further delay to the kind of unlocking that we are currently _ to the kind of unlocking that we are currently going through will only increase — currently going through will only increase that backlog. so it is understandable that given the success — understandable that given the success of the vaccine roll—out, given _ success of the vaccine roll—out, given the — success of the vaccine roll—out, given the fact that we have an incredible monitoring situation now, if there _ incredible monitoring situation now, if there really was a big pick—up in the virus. — if there really was a big pick—up in the virus, we could identify it
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really— the virus, we could identify it really quickly. so i think on balance _ really quickly. so i think on balance the government's decision to id balance the government's decision to go ahead, _ balance the government's decision to go ahead, as planned, is the right one _ go ahead, as planned, is the right one. ., .," , , go ahead, as planned, is the right one. . . ~ , , ., go ahead, as planned, is the right one. ., ., " , , ., ., go ahead, as planned, is the right one. . .,~ , , ., ., one. that takes us to the front page ofthe one. that takes us to the front page of the sunday _ one. that takes us to the front page of the sunday express, _ one. that takes us to the front page of the sunday express, geraldine, l one. that takes us to the front page | of the sunday express, geraldine, we cannot afford to panic is their headline. , ., , cannot afford to panic is their headline-— cannot afford to panic is their headline. , . , ., ., , headline. yes, and they are really sa in: headline. yes, and they are really saying that _ headline. yes, and they are really saying that there _ headline. yes, and they are really saying that there are _ headline. yes, and they are really saying that there are massive - saying that there are massive worries that if we do well back on the unlocking, businesses could suffer, there could be long—term economic damage. it has been more than a year of things being closed or partially closed or open temporarily and then closed again. there are questions over how much they can make and take of this. i have spoken to hospitality venues in the last few days who are so happy to be able to open indoors on monday, they feel like they have invested a lot of money to make their premises covid safe. if they were then told, actually, you know what, despite all this investment and everything you have done, we cannot do it, i think it would be very disappointing for them and a
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hit to the economy, really.- hit to the economy, really. there was also this _ hit to the economy, really. there was also this advice _ hit to the economy, really. there was also this advice that - hit to the economy, really. there was also this advice that people i was also this advice that people have to show, i suppose it is common sense, or in terms ofjust how much of an interaction you do have one so monday comes, tim, do you think people will take that on board or should they have stronger guidance on this? an mp saying, well, it is “p on this? an mp saying, well, it is up to you, you need to show your own restraint and, is that the way to do it? ~ restraint and, is that the way to do it? . ., ., ~ restraint and, is that the way to do it? ~ ., ., ~ ., ., , restraint and, is that the way to do it? . ., ., ~ ., ., , ., it? well, look, we are adults, and at the end — it? well, look, we are adults, and at the end of— it? well, look, we are adults, and at the end of the _ it? well, look, we are adults, and at the end of the day, _ it? well, look, we are adults, and at the end of the day, the - at the end of the day, the government cannot release every aspect— government cannot release every aspect of— government cannot release every aspect of our behaviour. i am sure whoever— aspect of our behaviour. i am sure whoever is — aspect of our behaviour. i am sure whoever is reviewing the newspapers with you _ whoever is reviewing the newspapers with you on _ whoever is reviewing the newspapers with you on monday evening, there will be _ with you on monday evening, there will be stories on monday, tuesday, of certain— will be stories on monday, tuesday, of certain individuals behaving badly — of certain individuals behaving badly. there will always be certain people _ badly. there will always be certain people who try to spoil it for everybody else. but i think the vast majority _ everybody else. but i think the vast majority of —
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everybody else. but i think the vast majority of people will be cautious, people _ majority of people will be cautious, people know that because of the sacrifices — people know that because of the sacrifices so many people have made to get _ sacrifices so many people have made to get to _ sacrifices so many people have made to get to this point. they might be a bit of— to get to this point. they might be a bit of silliness on the first day that we — a bit of silliness on the first day that we are allowed to go inside pubs _ that we are allowed to go inside pubs etc, — that we are allowed to go inside pubs etc, but very soon people will be influenced by their peers, their family. _ be influenced by their peers, their family, their friends, anyone that does _ family, their friends, anyone that does act — family, their friends, anyone that does act foolishly and be brought into line — does act foolishly and be brought into line i— does act foolishly and be brought into line. i think we have to go for it now— into line. i think we have to go for it now for— into line. i think we have to go for it now for the sake of the economy and for— it now for the sake of the economy and for the — it now for the sake of the economy and for the sake of the other illnesses— and for the sake of the other illnesses that covid has stopped being _ illnesses that covid has stopped being treated, and so that we get our children properly educated as well _ our children properly educated as well we — our children properly educated as well. we cannot afford another day. the minister i was trying to quite said we should take responsibility when deciding on hugging. let's turn to the front page of the telegraph, a push fori millionjabs a day to the front page of the telegraph, a push fori million jabs a day to save summer, geraldine. it is a push for1 million jabs a day to save summer, geraldine.- save summer, geraldine. it is a colossal amount, _ save summer, geraldine. it is a colossal amount, at _ save summer, geraldine. it is a colossal amount, at the - save summer, geraldine. it is a. colossal amount, at the moment save summer, geraldine. it is a - colossal amount, at the moment is something like 500,000 a day, they
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want to go up to 800000 and eventually to i want to go up to 800000 and eventually toi million. we want to go up to 800000 and eventually to i million. we are already seeing really impressive numbers. the vaccine roll—out is an absolute feet, it is very, very impressive. what this means, however, of course, is that because at the concern over the indian variant, those who are older, and are at risk, the second doses could be brought forward. it might mean young people have to wait longer for their second doses. we do know there is this risk, there may be a risk to live events in the summer if we cannot get this variant under control, so, you know, after not a massive football fan, i've got to admit, i did see an early and after seeing people enjoy my football again in person, it would be a shame if we had to roll back on that but there seems to be plans a third, the
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government is confident they can roll it out to that extent because we have quite a lot of doses of these vaccines stockpiled and more coming down the line, hopefully, with johnson coming down the line, hopefully, withjohnson and johnson approved in the coming days. tim. with johnson and johnson approved in the coming days-— the coming days. tim, we had professor _ the coming days. tim, we had professor anthony _ the coming days. tim, we had professor anthony hardman, l the coming days. tim, we had i professor anthony hardman, the deputy chair of the jcvi saying professor anthony hardman, the deputy chair of thejcvi saying the coronavirus vaccines are almost certainly less effective at reducing the transmission of this particular variant. �* ., variant. i've written two conflicting _ variant. i've written two conflicting views - variant. i've written two conflicting views on - variant. i've written two l conflicting views on that. variant. i've written two - conflicting views on that. overall, they consensus seems to be the vaccines— they consensus seems to be the vaccines we have are effective at stopping — vaccines we have are effective at stopping hospitalisation caused by the indian variant. yes, we have a lot of— the indian variant. yes, we have a lot of young — the indian variant. yes, we have a lot of young people who are unvaccinated, and the indian variant does seem — unvaccinated, and the indian variant does seem to particularly be able to target _ does seem to particularly be able to target them so that is a vulnerability. but as geraldine just said, _ vulnerability. but as geraldine just said. we've — vulnerability. but as geraldine just said, we've got a stockpile of 3 million — said, we've got a stockpile of 3
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million vaccines, so accelerating those _ million vaccines, so accelerating those are — million vaccines, so accelerating those are so younger people get the 'ab those are so younger people get the jab more _ those are so younger people get the jab more quickly is a good idea. and we've _ jab more quickly is a good idea. and we've also— jab more quickly is a good idea. and we've also got another vaccine, because — we've also got another vaccine, because the government bought so many, _ because the government bought so many, the — because the government bought so many, the johnson &johnson because the government bought so many, the johnson & johnson vaccine about— many, the johnson & johnson vaccine about to _ many, the johnson & johnson vaccine about to be _ many, the johnson & johnson vaccine about to be approved as well. and we really— about to be approved as well. and we really would be incredibly unlucky if one _ really would be incredibly unlucky if one of— really would be incredibly unlucky if one of the many vaccines, one of the battery— if one of the many vaccines, one of the battery vaccines that we have at our disposal wasn't successful at treating — our disposal wasn't successful at treating the indian variant. the independent. _ treating the indian variant. tie: independent, geraldine, treating the indian variant. tte: independent, geraldine, test treating the indian variant. t“t9: independent, geraldine, test and trace medics axed as variant surges. yes, this story sent shivers through my spine as a former health correspondent in a feed —— previous life. it sounds like they clinical staff who contact close contacts and monitor people that have the virus are going to be axed and that is going to be outsourced to nonclinical staff. to organisations like serco. the concern is if there
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is a medical emergency, this may be mixed if these staff are not clinically trained. this comes after various issues with a test and trace programme throughout the pandemic so i imagine we will hear a lot more on this one in coming days. but it does seem like it feels that the immediate risk is not as acute as it may be worth a few months ago so they are willing back on who they got on that front line.— got on that front line. tim, i'm auoin to got on that front line. tim, i'm going to take _ got on that front line. tim, i'm going to take you _ got on that front line. tim, i'm going to take you to _ got on that front line. tim, i'm going to take you to the - got on that front line. tim, i'm going to take you to the front i got on that front line. tim, i'm - going to take you to the front page of the observer because i think there is a lot to say about the stories, so many opinions. the israeli air strike claims eight young cousins, how closely have you been following this story? weill. been following this story? well, like everybody. _ been following this story? well, like everybody, i _ been following this story? well, like everybody, i have _ been following this story? well, like everybody, i have been - been following this story? well, like everybody, i have been watching with a _ like everybody, i have been watching with a sense of deja vu, a sense of horror, _ with a sense of deja vu, a sense of horror, it _ with a sense of deja vu, a sense of horror, it has — with a sense of deja vu, a sense of horror, it has been a number of years— horror, it has been a number of years since _ horror, it has been a number of years since we have seen this sort of scale _ years since we have seen this sort of scale of— years since we have seen this sort of scale of violence between the israeli _ of scale of violence between the israeli people and the palestinian
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people _ israeli people and the palestinian people. but i think the nature of the civil— people. but i think the nature of the civil unrest within israel between _ the civil unrest within israel between communities, people who live alongside _ between communities, people who live alongside each other, the violence towards _ alongside each other, the violence towards neighbours has been particularly upsetting, i think, in a tragedy— particularly upsetting, i think, in a tragedy that has, you know, failed to shock— a tragedy that has, you know, failed to shock us — a tragedy that has, you know, failed to shock us at times because we have been so _ to shock us at times because we have been so used — to shock us at times because we have been so used to this conflict but it has really— been so used to this conflict but it has really given us a fresh tweak of the heartstrings, ithink, in the last few— the heartstrings, ithink, in the last few days. and whether anything can be _ last few days. and whether anything can be done, i don't know. joe biden, — can be done, i don't know. joe biden, the _ can be done, i don't know. joe biden, the relatively new american president— biden, the relatively new american president has called for the protection ofjournalists after their— protection ofjournalists after their location was targeted by israel— their location was targeted by israel in — their location was targeted by israel in which the media use. but it doesn't— israel in which the media use. but it doesn't seem to be able or willing — it doesn't seem to be able or willing to _ it doesn't seem to be able or willing to do much more than that. and whether there is anybody outside can do— and whether there is anybody outside can do anything is perhaps a forlorn hope _ can do anything is perhaps a forlorn hope but _ can do anything is perhaps a forlorn hope but we just have to pray that's
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some _ hope but we just have to pray that's some miracle occurs and that the terrible _ some miracle occurs and that the terrible violence that we see comes to rapid _ terrible violence that we see comes to rapid end. terrible violence that we see comes to rapid end-— to rapid end. geraldine, as well as commenting _ to rapid end. geraldine, as well as commenting on — to rapid end. geraldine, as well as commenting on the _ to rapid end. geraldine, as well as commenting on the safety - to rapid end. geraldine, as well as commenting on the safety of - commenting on the safety of journalists after the bombing of the tower block, there has also been a phone call between the pla leader and of course benjamin netanyahu. your thoughts on this story? yes. and of course benjamin netanyahu. your thoughts on this story?- your thoughts on this story? yes, i think tim is — your thoughts on this story? yes, i think tim is right _ your thoughts on this story? yes, i think tim is right in _ your thoughts on this story? yes, i think tim is right in that _ your thoughts on this story? yes, i think tim is right in that the - think tim is right in that the fighting is so intense, it is the most intense fighting since 2014, and actually the most shocking part of it for me is, for everyone, obviously, is the civilian impact, especially that so many children seem to be getting caught up in this this time around. there is a special significance this weekend as well, marking the anniversary of when 700,000 people fled what is now israel. there is a us council meeting, we know that is coming up,
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hopefully they can agree on a position for and we can get some clarity there. but as tim said, i don't really see the way out at the moment from any outside actors. trier? moment from any outside actors. very cuickl , moment from any outside actors. very quickly. tim. — moment from any outside actors. very quickly. tim. a — moment from any outside actors. very quickly. tim. a story — moment from any outside actors. very quickly, tim, a story from the sporting world. it took place in london, leicester city will be celebrating.— london, leicester city will be celebratina. , ., , london, leicester city will be celebratina. , . , ., celebrating. absolutely, and 'ust a few weeks ago. i celebrating. absolutely, and 'ust a few weeks ago, of i celebrating. absolutely, and 'ust a few weeks ago, of course, h celebrating. absolutely, and just a few weeks ago, of course, we - celebrating. absolutely, and just a few weeks ago, of course, we had| celebrating. absolutely, and just a . few weeks ago, of course, we had the whole _ few weeks ago, of course, we had the whole super— few weeks ago, of course, we had the whole super league nonsense where we had the _ whole super league nonsense where we had the big _ whole super league nonsense where we had the big clubs trying to set up a new league that they would not be able to _ new league that they would not be able to be — new league that they would not be able to be relegated from. it is only— able to be relegated from. it is only a — able to be relegated from. it is only a cup— able to be relegated from. it is only a cup tournament but leicester winning _ only a cup tournament but leicester winning the — only a cup tournament but leicester winning the cup a few years after winning — winning the cup a few years after winning the cup a few years after winning the premiership, itjust goes _ winning the premiership, itjust goes to— winning the premiership, itjust goes to show that however big certain— goes to show that however big certain clubs are, we can allow little _ certain clubs are, we can allow little minnows, if leicester can be described — little minnows, if leicester can be described as a minnow, they can still win— described as a minnow, they can still win tournaments. it is good for the — still win tournaments. it is good for the game in english football, i think. _ for the game in english football, i think. that — for the game in english football, i think, that leicester has broken through— think, that leicester has broken through and that the big guys down when _ through and that the big guys down when everything. i through and that the big guys down when everything-—
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when everything. i think you mean foxes! thank— when everything. i think you mean foxes! thank you _ when everything. i think you mean foxes! thank you very _ when everything. i think you mean foxes! thank you very much, - foxes! thank you very much, geraldine, i'll get your thoughts on this story at 11:30pm but for now, thank you very much. that is it for the papers. goodbye for now. now it's time to re—visit our earlier your questions answered focussing on the indian variant. ok, you've been sending in lots of questions about the indian variant and what it means to you and the impact, of course, on the uk's road map. so, here to answer those questions is the public health expert professor sian griffiths — lovely to see you — and the university of east anglia's professor paul hunter. good evening to both of you, professors. ok, let us begin, then, and a question to both of you.
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and if i could ask you, professor griffiths, to start off, how does a covid infected person get confirmed as having the indian variant and not the wuhan strain? and this comes from paul monroe. well, paul, this is about genomic sequencing. and you'll have heard a lot of talk about variants, and the way we decide what a variant is is by looking at the sequence, its genetic makeup. so basically, that's the basic difference. so, we have variants of concern, and the indian variant is a variant of concern. it's an adaptation from the wuhan virus, which started in china back in 2020. professor hunter? yeah, i think the thing to say is that not everybody has their sample sequenced. we are at the moment only sequencing about 40 to 50% each week in samples, so many people with any
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of the indian variants would actually have their strains sequence and won't actually know whether or not they've had that. what we're doing is because we're taking a sample, we can get a good idea of what's happening over all, but it's difficult to pinpoint individuals if they've not had their sample sink which. the next question comes from roy. has it been established whether the current vaccines give protection against the indian variant? if so, what sort of efficiency do they have against it compared with other strains? professor griffiths, your thoughts on that? i think this is really one for professor hunter. he's more up—to—date with the most recent work. i'm going to pass it to him. 0k. yeah, we don't know... there are actually
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three indian variants. the first one that was discovered in the uk dates back to about late february. we do know that that one was more resistant to vaccine than the kent variant. it was controlled by vaccine, but not as well. it's not a yes or no thing, it's often a gradual thing. with the indian variant two, one that's actually increasing quite rapidly, that lost one of its escape mutations. so, although the data isn't out there yet, we would expect it to be somewhat more affected by vaccine than india one. i think initial suggestions, although not yet in any
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scientific paper tend to support that suggestion. so a little bit more resistant than the kent variant, but not as resistant as the south african or brazilian variant. professor griffiths. we have a question here from kev masters. how did this indian variant to get into the uk? it was obviously imported possibly from india but we have to remember the indian variant is now in many countries so we can't assume it's obviously more logical to think cases come from india, but we know this strain is in australia. it's in the us, it's in europe. this is part of the anxiety. this is a widely distributed strain and obviously very transmissible. professor hunter, we have
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a question from birmingham. paul says is this virus more transmissible because of its interaction with our immune systems, or is it longer—lasting on surfaces? probably neither of those, actually. we don't know for certain, but the early evidence is that it's probably more infectious because it gets into people's cells more easily. one of the mutations that isn't discussed very often is p681r, and that's a a point in the protein that you need to break those proteins apart to help the virus get into the cells. the suggestion is that that actually helps that, and that means if it's easier for a virus to get into our cells, it's probably more infectious. in a way, that was probably how the kent variant became more infection as well, in that it was easier to get into cells.
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so you don't have to have quite as much virus in the body for it to take hold. can i ask a question on my own? the indian variant was identified in october of last year. how is it that our scientists are saying we don't know yet how transmissible it is? they've been tracking it, haven't they? professor hunter? they have and we heard chris whitty say yesterday that it is more infectious than the kent variant. i think the evidence is very clear because all we have to do is look at the fact that the kent variant at the moment is in steep decline in the uk, variant has had a steep increase.
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the only explanation is either that it's so much more resistant to immunity or it's more infectious, and we've already said it probably isn't that much more resistant to immunity than the kent variant. so, it has to be more infectious. the issue is how much more infectious, as chris whitty said on monday, but if it's very infectious, it could be a real problem for us. if it's only moderately more infectious, it may well be something that we can still manage within the existing road map out of lockdown. professor griffiths, david says what happened, or what's happened to the brazilian variant and the south african one? well, they're still around. theyjust haven't taken off in the numbers in the way that the indian variant has, and this may be partly due to vaccination. obviously, the reason we know about the different variants is that a certain
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number of tests will get sent off to have their genomic sequencing done, but it's only some of the positive tests that get sent off. but to date, we haven't seen those particular variants spreading. it could also be to do with the surge testing that took place when there was a cluster of south african variants, and the community in which the cluster was found that was surge testing, and health measures were the community in which the cluster was found that was surge testing, isolation and health measures were taken in addition. on the subject of public health measures, professor hunter, olive from reigate says why is the government not locking us down again? why blow it now? it is a very difficult choice. it is certainly plausible that in three or four weeks, we look back and think why didn't
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we lock down longer? ultimately, it has to be a political decision rather than a public health decision. whether we go into lockdown or not. i think the evidence at the moment is that it isn't really spreading in older age groups that have had most of the vaccine roll—out, so it very much looks as though this will not cause as severe disease and vaccinated people as in unvaccinated people, so ultimately, we may well just be able to ride this out over the next few weeks. but it's a very difficult call. in four weeks' time, we might look back on this and think we made the right decision, alternatively, we may wish we had gone into lockdown.
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this is discussing the way it's spreading in china, the original one. if the original covid—19 virus which started spreading in china isn't called the china virus, why should we call variants by their locations? why is that used? that's the sort of colloquialism that is used as a shorthand often for discussion such as this because in a scientific community, you would actually call the indian variant by a sequence of numbers. 117.62. that gets confusing. i think ijust said it wrong anyway. so, it's actually about trying to say this is where we think the origin of this one was, but in fact, ever since it was called spanish flu, there's been a move against trying to locate viruses by a place
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because the place becomes tainted. however, it's used as a colloquialism and scientists won't be using that. if i could just say that i really think that one of the things we need to do for the indian variant is to ensure vaccination amongst all those who are eligible for it, and that's really important, particularly in parts of the country where we know we've got clusters. i think pushing vaccination will add protection to the population. i think that answers lisa's question. i'lljust read it out. with vaccines being stepped up in areas most affected which we understand alongside young people not having the astrazeneca, is this going to delay the under 30s being vaccinated? do you have anything to add to that before i ask the next question? i think it shouldn't delay vaccines.
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if it does, that would be a great disappointment because i think it is a very difficult balance to make. do you vaccinate people in an area where you've already got clusters? because the vaccine doesn't work for about two to three weeks anyway. or do you carry on vaccinating people in areas that currently aren't seeing high numbers of cases? but maybe in a couple of weeks' time, and you carry on vaccinating that population, then maybe you'll have a bigger impact by stopping further surges in other areas where they're not seeing cases at the moment. that is a very difficult judgment call at the moment, and again, it's one of those decisions that i'm not entirely sure that we really know is the best option. that's just it with this virus. so many questions. professor sian griffiths and paul hunter, thank you very much for your time.
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hello, there. the first half of the weekend brought plenty of showers for most of us. it may well be that the second half of the weekend brings even more showers, and some of them will be really heavy with hail and thunder, but always with some sunny spells in between. we start sunday with a band of cloud and patchy rain across parts of northern england and southern scotland. showers from the word go across the southwest of england and wales, and those will become more widespread into the afternoon. some will be very heavy with frequent lightning and hail. some gusty winds especially down towards the south. temperatures between 11—16 degrees at best. through sunday evening, the showers will continue. most of them will fade away overnight and into the early hours of monday. there will be some clear spells as we start monday morning and it will be a relatively chilly start to the day, although i think most
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of us will avoid a frost. into monday and indeed, through the week ahead, we can expect more of this sunshine and showers weather. some of the showers very heavy and thundery. temperatures below where they should be for this time of year.
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this is bbc news. i'm lukwesa burak, with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. israeli warplanes destroy a tower block in gaza housing international media. israel claims the building was being used by hamas intelligence. palestinian officials say 14 people — including a family of ten — were killed in an earlier israeli strike on a refugee camp. one israeli has died in a hamas rocket attack. there was an assumption amongst some in israel that the conflict was more or less over and simply had to be managed. now, the tension here and the events of the last week also have shown
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that that is not the case.

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