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with a backlog of routine work to get through and possibly more covid, they know they're going to need them. hugh pym, bbc news, cambridge. as part of today's easing of restrictions in england large stadiums can now admit up to 10,000 spectators, while smaller grounds will be capped at 4,000. there've been five matches in the rugby super league and two two in rugby union's premiership tonight. one of those games was at kingston park where newcastle falcons beat northampton saints with spectators present for the first time in m months. still on the same theme. museums in england, scotland and wales have re—opened their doors again, and one of those welcoming the public was the museum of natural history in oxford. 0ur arts correspondent david sillito went to have a look at one rather familiar object on display. oxford university, the museum
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of natural history, and not even the rain could dampen the enthusiasm for today's grand reopening and its new work of art. an object that's affected us all. we're here face to face with the thing we've all been trying to avoid, the virus. it is some 8 million times bigger than the real thing. but it does allow you to get up close to something that is both terrible but also strangely beautiful. it's made up of tens of millions of pieces of scientific data, crunched and slowly assembled to reveal this. and the moment of revelation came, i was just taken aback cos i thought, i'd been working for months and months and months during lockdown on my own listening to radio, television, hearing about this dreadful, evil virus and it was just strangely beautiful. it was kind of hauntingly beautiful,
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and that kind of took me aback. and unveiling it was someone who knows it all too well, the lead developer of the oxford vaccine. it's quite a chilling thing to look at because this is the virus that's been our enemy for the last 17 months now. we've been trying to defeat it. and so to come face—to—face with a large version of the virus is quite thought—provoking. and around the city there was a feeling of change today. this another reopening, the ashmolean. this is a big moment. this is spiritual! gracie and emma, first—year students finally escaping from a life of zoom calls virtual lectures. this is my greatest form of leisure. without clubs, what have we got? i museums, which arguably are more fun. _ arguably. it's still far from normal life but this — the virus, analysed, described, etched and imprisoned. it's an image full of hope. david sillito, bbc news, 0xford.
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that's it, and now time for the news where you are. have a very good night. hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the broadcaster henry bonsu and the former trade minister, lord digbyjones. lovely to have you both with us. great to see you. thank you for staying up to be with us this evening. before we get to the front pages, let's bring you some breaking news. gloucestershire police have been examining the site of a cafe in gloucester after reports that it could conceivably contain human remains. they have now issued a statement this evening saying there
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is possible evidence to suggest that body could be buried inside the cafe. it's where15—year—old mary worked before she vanished in 1968 and where the serial killer fred west is known to have been both a customer and to have done work there at about that time. excavation work will now take place. likely will take some time. breaking news from gloucester, coming as a result of a documentary that itv were filming there and apparently they called in there and apparently they called in the police because of some disturbing evidence that they found at the scene. we will bring you any more that we get over the coming days here on bbc news. tomorrow's front pages, starting with... the guardian notes the covid variant first detected in india will become the dominant strain in the uk within days, with the government and health teams struggling to contain cases, which have risen by more than 75% since thursday. the i says new advice on wearing masks and staying a metre apart
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is set to be delayed because scientists want more time to assess danger posed by indian strain. while the metro writes thousands of vaccine sceptics have changed their minds, queueing round the block for a covid jab in places worst hit by the indian variant surge that threatens our route out of lockdown. the daily mail says tory ministers and mps have told borisjohnson they would not accept covid curbs being extended in order to protect those who are refusing to get vaccinated. according to the daily telegraph, british holiday—makers are expected to be given the green light by the eu to use "vaccine passports" to travel to the continent. while the daily mirror concerntrates on today's easing of restrictions, with pictures of people hugging. and, according to the financial times, the government is locked in a ferocious" internal battle over whether to sign off a trade deal with australia after a split between the department of agriculture and the department of international trade over the terms of the deal.
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so, let's begin. we will begin if we make with the metro. injury, kick us off. at last they get the point. if metro. injury, kick us off. at last they get the point.— they get the point. if you are the ictures they get the point. if you are the pictures on _ they get the point. if you are the pictures on the _ they get the point. if you are the pictures on the news _ they get the point. if you are the pictures on the news today, - they get the point. if you are the l pictures on the news today, you've seen hundreds waiting in line in bolton for a covid jacket we are told something like 600 people were jabbed over the weekend in bolton which is one of the epicenters of the new indian variant. the metro inviting us to point the finger at the people to call the vaccine sceptics because the could be a percentage of the people at already been invited to get vaccinated and had not done so. i'm just wondering if that's the right way to see this because bolton and blackburn with darwen are the two epicenters of the indian variant. a number of people came in from the subcontinent in the
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weeks, the middle of april, and these poor places to debate those were people are living in multiple occupancy houses, with particular ethnic groups have been targeted by anti—vaccine groups and sceptics so they become vaccine hesitant, i think that was her turn. they have taken their cue from matt hancock who said today that of the 90 people in hospital in bolton, five had had the vaccine but only one dose. i think nobody had had two doses. of the other 14, they have been invited but had not taken it out. so invited but had not taken it out. so invited but to actually get those people and say now you see that if you are vaccinated, you are protected and now they understand. and that's what the word was today.— the word was today. when he was ressed, the word was today. when he was pressed. he _ the word was today. when he was pressed, he said _ the word was today. when he was pressed, he said one _ the word was today. when he was pressed, he said one person - the word was today. when he was pressed, he said one person had. the word was today. when he was i pressed, he said one person had had two doses but he was very frail. but the general point is fair about the number people and the impact of
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vaccination. what do you make of it? is the headline a little bit unkind? is the headline a little bit unkind? i don't think so. good evening, henry~ — i don't think so. good evening, henry~ i — i don't think so. good evening, hen . ., ~' i don't think so. good evening, hen . ., ~ , ., ., henry. i did not think you would think it was _ henry. i did not think you would think it was unkind. _ henry. i did not think you would think it was unkind. good - henry. i did not think you would think it was unkind. good to - henry. i did not think you would| think it was unkind. good to see ou, think it was unkind. good to see you. mate- _ think it was unkind. good to see you. mate- i _ think it was unkind. good to see you, mate. i don't— think it was unkind. good to see you, mate. i don't think- think it was unkind. good to see you, mate. i don't think so - think it was unkind. good to see you, mate. i don't think so at i think it was unkind. good to see l you, mate. i don't think so at all. i would _ you, mate. i don't think so at all. i would have _ you, mate. i don't think so at all. i would have thought the average person— i would have thought the average person in— i would have thought the average person in britain will say if you refuse — person in britain will say if you refuse to — person in britain will say if you refuse to have a vaccine and you get this dreadful disease, then, well, you get— this dreadful disease, then, well, you get what's coming. and what is where _ you get what's coming. and what is where henry has got a point is there is a big _ where henry has got a point is there is a big difference between the person— is a big difference between the person who says, you know, i'm not going _ person who says, you know, i'm not going to _ person who says, you know, i'm not going to heat — person who says, you know, i'm not going to beat vaccinated, it's a con: _ going to beat vaccinated, it's a corn is — going to beat vaccinated, it's a corn is a — going to beat vaccinated, it's a con, is a cia plot, a right wing this— con, is a cia plot, a right wing this or— con, is a cia plot, a right wing this or a — con, is a cia plot, a right wing this or a left—wing that, all rubbish _ this or a left—wing that, all rubbish excuses for not having a vaccination, i don't think the average _ vaccination, i don't think the average brit would have it easy but the it _ average brit would have it easy but the it alt _ average brit would have it easy but the it alt if— average brit would have it easy but
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the it all. if you have got somebody who is _ the it all. if you have got somebody who is influenced by, who has people who is influenced by, who has people who in— who is influenced by, who has people who in some — who is influenced by, who has people who in some cases probably making them _ who in some cases probably making them not _ who in some cases probably making them not have a vaccine, then i do sympathise — them not have a vaccine, then i do sympathise with that. i think that is sympathise with that. i think that must— sympathise with that. i think that isjust a _ sympathise with that. i think that isjust a crying shame and they sympathise with that. i think that is just a crying shame and they will pay for— is just a crying shame and they will pay for it— is just a crying shame and they will pay for it by— is just a crying shame and they will pay for it by catching this disease. and pay for it by catching this disease. ami of— pay for it by catching this disease. and of course the trouble is and this is— and of course the trouble is and this is what has been a driver throughout, it is not so much and hopefuiiy— throughout, it is not so much and hopefully you might still get it but the vaccine will mean you don't end ”p the vaccine will mean you don't end up in _ the vaccine will mean you don't end up in hospital, you hope, but the problem — up in hospital, you hope, but the problem is — up in hospital, you hope, but the problem is if you get the hospitals overrun— problem is if you get the hospitals overrun by— problem is if you get the hospitals overrun by this, then you have the bil overrun by this, then you have the big problems and a knock on effect and to— big problems and a knock on effect and to things like cancer treatments and to things like cancer treatments and heart _ and to things like cancer treatments and heart treatments and all the other— and heart treatments and all the other stuff. so it's the effectiveness on people who did not have a _ effectiveness on people who did not have a vaccine whom i end up in hospitai— have a vaccine whom i end up in hospital and overrun the hospital and then— hospital and overrun the hospital and then we all suffer. so is everybody's problem. interesting, two things. _ everybody's problem. interesting, two things, really, _ everybody's problem. interesting, two things, really, the _ everybody's problem. interesting, two things, really, the number- everybody's problem. interesting, two things, really, the number of| two things, really, the number of cases have been found in 86 local
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authority areas in england so it is now increasing the number of places the variant is getting to and whether it will then grow at the scale like it is in bolton and blackburn with darwen and indeed bedford now. we will see. the point here is public health directors trying to find ways to get people vaccinated as many as possible, and the government advice is not to but to give it into people in an age term who should be getting vaccinated. local health authorities trying to find ways to get as many people vaccinated as possible. a real tension between central government advice what people on the ground think is best. who should have the final say? i ground think is best. who should have the final say?— have the final say? i would leave this to the _ have the final say? i would leave this to the local _ have the final say? i would leave this to the local authority - have the final say? i would leave this to the local authority if - have the final say? i would leave this to the local authority if i - have the final say? i would leave j this to the local authority if i was little _ this to the local authority if i was little government. they know best. they are _ little government. they know best. they are on — little government. they know best. they are on the ground. but also remember— they are on the ground. but also remember this, what the test does it say whether— remember this, what the test does it say whether you have got it or not, it is not _ say whether you have got it or not, it is not safe — say whether you have got it or not, it is not safe how badly you are going _ it is not safe how badly you are going to — it is not safe how badly you are going to get it or whether you were going _ going to get it or whether you were going to _ going to get it or whether you were going to show symptoms at all. to the problem with the headline i
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think— the problem with the headline i think you — the problem with the headline i think you said 86 authorities is some — think you said 86 authorities is some of— think you said 86 authorities is some of those will have people who prove _ some of those will have people who prove positive who will not overrun the hospital and he will be at home and might— the hospital and he will be at home and mightjust have mild flu or indeed — and mightjust have mild flu or indeed not any symptoms. as a people will he _ indeed not any symptoms. as a people will he very— indeed not any symptoms. as a people will be very poorly. and if they have _ will be very poorly. and if they have not— will be very poorly. and if they have not been vaccinated it all, then— have not been vaccinated it all, then they— have not been vaccinated it all, then they could well have a very tragic— then they could well have a very tragic and _ then they could well have a very tragic end. we have to care for... | tragic end. we have to care for... i think tragic end. we have to care for... think is tragic end. we have to care for... i think is important to add that the vaccine is most prolific at the moment in bolton and blackburn with darwen. in the very young age to between 10—19. it's at a rate of something like ten times what it is in the over 60s and that's probably because the adversities revaccinated. so if you people are the vectors by a huge multiple than you can understand why it makes sense for the local directors of public health to fax that the young people. public health to fax that the young eo - le. ., .,
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public health to fax that the young --eole. ., ., , public health to fax that the young n-eole. . ., , . ," public health to fax that the young neale, ., ., , ., people. cannot 'ust ask... can i ask henry because — people. cannotjust ask... can i ask henry because i _ people. cannotjust ask... can i ask henry because i understood - people. cannotjust ask... can i ask henry because i understood this - people. cannotjust ask... can i ask henry because i understood this bit| henry because i understood this bit of it that _ henry because i understood this bit of it that you refer to something at the beginning of your first remarks, wanted _ the beginning of your first remarks, wanted government say on a monday i'm wanted government say on a monday i'm not— wanted government say on a monday i'm not going to ban flights from india _ i'm not going to ban flights from india until— i'm not going to ban flights from india until friday although they have _ india until friday although they have been banned from pakistan and bangladesh but not from india? and then those _ bangladesh but not from india? and then those four days you had something like 20,000 people come in from a _ something like 20,000 people come in from a place that had got the indian variant— from a place that had got the indian variant prolifically. i don't understand it and i thought i will be paying — understand it and i thought i will be paying the price or am i being the monistic? a be paying the price or am i being the monistic?— be paying the price or am i being the monistic? �* , ., ,. , , the monistic? a number of scientists who think that _ the monistic? a number of scientists who think that is _ the monistic? a number of scientists who think that is what _ the monistic? a number of scientists who think that is what it _ the monistic? a number of scientists who think that is what it was - who think that is what it was seated. and radical of government behind the scenes. and some commentators are saying at the weekend that the reason why the government dragged his feet was because there was an impending trade trip by borisjohnson to prime minister modi in india and did not want to wreck that. we minister modi in india and did not want to wreck that.— minister modi in india and did not want to wreck that. we are going to move on because _ want to wreck that. we are going to move on because the _ want to wreck that. we are going to move on because the telegraph - want to wreck that. we are going to j move on because the telegraph and want to wreck that. we are going to l move on because the telegraph and i won't play without running water
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here and my apologies to my colleagues who were trying to get the front page is up. we were talking about the doses in the vaccines, enough doses stockpiled to vaccinate all children over 12 says matt hancock on the telegraph. should we do that? we have a surplus and others are saying give it to poor countries. but what should we be giving vaccinations to that age group, do you think was meant personally gas. i group, do you think was meant personally gas-— personally gas. i would. the government _ personally gas. i would. the government has _ personally gas. i would. the government has played - personally gas. i would. the government has played a i personally gas. i would. the - government has played a blinder. the way it _ government has played a blinder. the way it approached the whole vaccination issue from the first order— vaccination issue from the first order and _ vaccination issue from the first order and risk take to now has been e>
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you just _ follow those vaccines out there. if you just give vaccines to the people in power— you just give vaccines to the people in power and a lot of poor countries, you will find corruption and oppression and it won't get to the poor— and oppression and it won't get to the poor people who need it unless they pay— the poor people who need it unless they pay and that sort of stuff. so we cannot — they pay and that sort of stuff. so we cannotjust praise ourselves and say we've _ we cannotjust praise ourselves and say we've been very good with children— say we've been very good with children and given to these countries, we must follow it out there _ countries, we must follow it out there and — countries, we must follow it out there and make sure it gets to the poorest— there and make sure it gets to the poorest people. within the thing interesting this is by the time we -et interesting this is by the time we get to— interesting this is by the time we get to that in the stockpot will have _ get to that in the stockpot will have come down, we are going to be into a _ have come down, we are going to be into a position where everybody is going _ into a position where everybody is going to _ into a position where everybody is going to need a third. everyone will need _ going to need a third. everyone will need a _ going to need a third. everyone will need a booster to get through november and need a booster to get through novemberand decemberwhen need a booster to get through november and december when there will be _ november and december when there will be a _ november and december when there will be a third booster and that will be a third booster and that will be — will be a third booster and that will be the test. we will be a third booster and that will be the test.— will be a third booster and that will be the test. we are not sure whether or _ will be the test. we are not sure whether or not _ will be the test. we are not sure whether or not we're _ will be the test. we are not sure whether or not we're going - will be the test. we are not sure whether or not we're going to i will be the test. we are not sure whether or not we're going to a | whether or not we're going to a booster because the science and data on this changes all the time. i remember the days when we had the yellow fever every ten years but in 2015 the who issued an edict to our country say that actually one shot is lifelong. so who knows, it could
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be great news if we were told that but as far as the 12—year—olds if we can get 40% of our stockpile to covax as he did calling for only today and in vaccinate children especially in hotspots like blackburn with darwen and maybe bedford because they are the vectors at the moment, then, yes. if not i would hesitate to roll out and use all our stocks when you consider that we are getting really protected when it comes to the most vulnerable but in very many countries in the world were some of the new variance might come and seed here in this country, people have hardly been vaccinated all.— vaccinated all. then e-mail with vaccine threatening _ vaccinated all. then e-mail with vaccine threatening freedom. i vaccinated all. then e-mail with. vaccine threatening freedom. the essence of this story is the tory mp said they won't vote to extend restrictions if the people have been refusing vaccinations as they want back to normal on schedule. what you make of that? this
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