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well do you think european policymakers have followed the science when it comes to vaccinations?— science when it comes to vaccinations? ~ �*, a, a, a vaccinations? well, it's a balancing act if you're — vaccinations? well, it's a balancing act if you're a _ vaccinations? well, it's a balancing act if you're a head _ vaccinations? well, it's a balancing act if you're a head of _ vaccinations? well, it's a balancing act if you're a head of state - vaccinations? well, it's a balancing act if you're a head of state or- act if you're a head of state or government. of course, they've been listening _ government. of course, they've been listening to _ government. of course, they've been listening to science. but there is a science _ listening to science. but there is a science and — listening to science. but there is a science and there's politics. you have _ science and there's politics. you have to — science and there's politics. you have to make political decisions. it's interesting to look at the different countries in europe, because — different countries in europe, because they've gone about their lockdowns in very different ways. sometimes very good results, but differeni— sometimes very good results, but different methods. but i'm very happy— different methods. but i'm very happy to— different methods. but i'm very happy to report to datelined that the vaccine roll—out in continental europe _ the vaccine roll—out in continental europe is— the vaccine roll—out in continental europe is doing extremely well. after— europe is doing extremely well. after the — europe is doing extremely well. after the catastrophic last two
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weeks. — after the catastrophic last two weeks, months i would say, and yesterday. — weeks, months i would say, and yesterday, the french president announced that anyone from the age of 18 was— announced that anyone from the age of 18 was now able to get vaccinated in france _ of 18 was now able to get vaccinated in france. surprise, surprise. i'm sure— in france. surprise, surprise. i'm sure you — in france. surprise, surprise. i'm sure you remember the french were leading _ sure you remember the french were leading and — sure you remember the french were leading and anti—vaccine feeling in the western world, but it's not the case any— the western world, but it's not the case any more. perhaps because they were denied _ case any more. perhaps because they were denied their vaccine, and as you know. — were denied their vaccine, and as you know, they are quite contrary and as— you know, they are quite contrary and as soon— you know, they are quite contrary and as soon as there was no vaccine, they wanted — and as soon as there was no vaccine, they wanted it. now the latest poll showed _ they wanted it. now the latest poll showed that 70% of french people want to _ showed that 70% of french people want to get a vaccination. where only want to get a vaccination. where onty 40% — want to get a vaccination. where only 40% last summer. so, good news all around _ only 40% last summer. so, good news atiaround |_ only 4096 last summer. so, good news all around. ., �* . ., all around. i wouldn't dream of callin: all around. i wouldn't dream of calling the _ all around. i wouldn't dream of calling the french _ all around. i wouldn't dream of calling the french contrary - all around. i wouldn't dream of calling the french contrary but| all around. i wouldn't dream of. calling the french contrary but you may. jef, i was reading today about
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the rather different infection rates between the different states of america. i think north dakota is still pretty high, and vermont, are really tiny state in comparison, has much lower rates. how much of this is down to vaccination uptake? same is down to vaccination uptake? some of it is the residue _ is down to vaccination uptake? some of it is the residue of _ is down to vaccination uptake? some of it is the residue of the _ of it is the residue of the different— of it is the residue of the different mask— of it is the residue of the different mask wearing l of it is the residue of the - different mask wearing policies of it is the residue of the _ different mask wearing policies and general— different mask wearing policies and general public _ different mask wearing policies and general public health _ different mask wearing policies and general public health awareness . different mask wearing policies and l general public health awareness and interest— general public health awareness and interest of— general public health awareness and interest of the — general public health awareness and interest of the state _ general public health awareness and interest of the state governments, i interest of the state governments, which _ interest of the state governments, which were, — interest of the state governments, which were, especially— interest of the state governments, which were, especially in - interest of the state governments, which were, especially in the - interest of the state governments, i which were, especially in the trump administration, _ which were, especially in the trump administration, fundamentally- which were, especially in the trump administration, fundamentally in. administration, fundamentally in charge _ administration, fundamentally in charge of— administration, fundamentally in charge of what— administration, fundamentally in charge of what happened. - administration, fundamentally in charge of what happened. all. administration, fundamentally in| charge of what happened. all the states _ charge of what happened. all the states now. — charge of what happened. all the states now. at _ charge of what happened. all the states now, at least _ charge of what happened. all the states now, at least according. charge of what happened. all the states now, at least according to| states now, at least according to the lrest— states now, at least according to the best knowledge, _ states now, at least according to the best knowledge, can- states now, at least according to the best knowledge, can get- the best knowledge, can get essentially— the best knowledge, can get essentially all— the best knowledge, can get essentially all the _ the best knowledge, can get essentially all the vaccines l the best knowledge, can get. essentially all the vaccines they want _ essentially all the vaccines they want so. — essentially all the vaccines they want so. it's— essentially all the vaccines they want. so, it's not _ essentially all the vaccines they want. so, it's not any— essentially all the vaccines they want. so, it's not any longer. essentially all the vaccines they want. so, it's not any longer a. want. so, it's not any longer a question— want. so, it's not any longer a question of— want. so, it's not any longer a question of supply _ want. so, it's not any longer a question of supply and - want. so, it's not any longer a l question of supply and demand, want. so, it's not any longer a - question of supply and demand, at the question— question of supply and demand, at the question of— question of supply and demand, at the question of demand. _ question of supply and demand, at the question of demand. there - question of supply and demand, at the question of demand. there are regional— the question of demand. there are regional differences, _ the question of demand. there are regional differences, even - the question of demand. there are regional differences, even politicali regional differences, even political difference, — regional differences, even political difference, and _ regional differences, even political difference, and uptake. _ regional differences, even political difference, and uptake. there - regional differences, even political
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difference, and uptake. there is. regional differences, even political| difference, and uptake. there is an anti-vax— difference, and uptake. there is an anti—vax stronghold _ difference, and uptake. there is an anti—vax stronghold among - anti—vax stronghold among republicans, _ anti—vax stronghold among republicans, there - anti—vax stronghold among republicans, there was - anti—vax stronghold among republicans, there was a i anti—vax stronghold among - republicans, there was a period when 50% of— republicans, there was a period when 50% of republican _ republicans, there was a period when 50% of republican men— republicans, there was a period when 50% of republican men said - republicans, there was a period when 50% of republican men said they- 50% of republican men said they would _ 50% of republican men said they would not — 50% of republican men said they would not get _ 50% of republican men said they would not get a _ 50% of republican men said they would not get a vaccine. - 50% of republican men said they would not get a vaccine. we're . 50% of republican men said they. would not get a vaccine. we're now down _ would not get a vaccine. we're now down to _ would not get a vaccine. we're now down to 20% — would not get a vaccine. we're now down to 20% of _ would not get a vaccine. we're now down to 20% of republicans - would not get a vaccine. we're now down to 20% of republicans saying| down to 20% of republicans saying they will— down to 20% of republicans saying they will not — down to 20% of republicans saying they will not get _ down to 20% of republicans saying they will not get a _ down to 20% of republicans saying they will not get a vaccine - down to 20% of republicans saying they will not get a vaccine as - they will not get a vaccine as opposed _ they will not get a vaccine as opposed to _ they will not get a vaccine as opposed to 29%_ they will not get a vaccine as opposed to 29% a _ they will not get a vaccine as opposed to 29% a month - they will not get a vaccine asl opposed to 29% a month ago. they will not get a vaccine as - opposed to 29% a month ago. again, i think it's _ opposed to 29% a month ago. again, i think it's more — opposed to 29% a month ago. again, i think it's more and _ opposed to 29% a month ago. again, i think it's more and more _ opposed to 29% a month ago. again, i think it's more and more people's- think it's more and more people's neighbours— think it's more and more people's neighbours getting _ think it's more and more people's neighbours getting it _ think it's more and more people's neighbours getting it in— think it's more and more people's neighbours getting it in some - think it's more and more people's. neighbours getting it in some states are offering — neighbours getting it in some states are offering lottery— neighbours getting it in some states are offering lottery prizes _ neighbours getting it in some states are offering lottery prizes of- neighbours getting it in some states are offering lottery prizes of $1 - are offering lottery prizes of $1 million _ are offering lottery prizes of $1 million to — are offering lottery prizes of $1 million to people _ are offering lottery prizes of $1 million to people who - are offering lottery prizes of $1 million to people who get - million to people who get vaccinated. _ million to people who get vaccinated. the _ million to people who get vaccinated. the public- million to people who get - vaccinated. the public enthusiasm million to people who get _ vaccinated. the public enthusiasm is building _ vaccinated. the public enthusiasm is building i_ vaccinated. the public enthusiasm is building ithink— vaccinated. the public enthusiasm is building. i think it _ vaccinated. the public enthusiasm is building. i think it will— vaccinated. the public enthusiasm is building. i think it will even - vaccinated. the public enthusiasm is building. i think it will even out - building. i think it will even out over— building. i think it will even out over time, _ building. i think it will even out overtime, and— building. i think it will even out over time, and really, - building. i think it will even out over time, and really, what- building. i think it will even out over time, and really, what is. over time, and really, what is remarkable _ over time, and really, what is remarkable is— over time, and really, what is remarkable is how— over time, and really, what is remarkable is how good - over time, and really, what is| remarkable is how good these vaccines — remarkable is how good these vaccines are _ remarkable is how good these vaccines are. unlike _ remarkable is how good these vaccines are. unlike flu - remarkable is how good these l vaccines are. unlike flu vaccines and other— vaccines are. unlike flu vaccines and other sorts _ vaccines are. unlike flu vaccines and other sorts of _ vaccines are. unlike flu vaccines and other sorts of vaccines, - and other sorts of vaccines, possibility— and other sorts of vaccines, possibility of _ and other sorts of vaccines, possibility of reinfection - and other sorts of vaccines, | possibility of reinfection and and other sorts of vaccines, - possibility of reinfection and going to the _ possibility of reinfection and going to the hospital— possibility of reinfection and going to the hospital or— possibility of reinfection and going to the hospital or death, - possibility of reinfection and going to the hospital or death, it's - to the hospital or death, it's almost _ to the hospital or death, it's almost a _ to the hospital or death, it's almost a magic _ to the hospital or death, it's almost a magic bullet. - to the hospital or death, it's almost a magic bullet. i- to the hospital or death, it's. almost a magic bullet. i think to the hospital or death, it's - almost a magic bullet. i think the success— almost a magic bullet. i think the success of— almost a magic bullet. i think the success of the _ almost a magic bullet. i think the success of the science _ almost a magic bullet. i think the success of the science is - almost a magic bullet. i think the success of the science is leadingl success of the science is leading people _ success of the science is leading people to — success of the science is leading people to understand _ success of the science is leading people to understand that - success of the science is leading people to understand that this l success of the science is leading| people to understand that this is success of the science is leading . people to understand that this is a very good — people to understand that this is a very good thing _ people to understand that this is a very good thing to _ people to understand that this is a very good thing to do. _ people to understand that this is a very good thing to do.— people to understand that this is a very good thing to do. david, there was some environmental—
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very good thing to do. david, there was some environmental benefits i very good thing to do. david, there l was some environmental benefits to the lockdown. farfewer was some environmental benefits to the lockdown. far fewer flights going around the world, but how much of that are we going to hold onto once the planes take off? the new fiuures once the planes take off? the new figures that _ once the planes take off? the new figures that have _ once the planes take off? the new figures that have come _ once the planes take off? the new figures that have come from - once the planes take off? the new figures that have come from china| figures that have come from china show that their emissions have shot back right up again, and this comes at a time when the science has never been clearer, that by 2030 — to have the best chance to avoid the worst effects of global warming — emissions globally need to come down by nearly half in the next nine years. they've been going in the wrong direction. i think where the ground has shifted dramaticallyjust in the last, really, couple of months is that suddenly, you've got one bigger economy after another declaring they will try to cut their own emissions by roughly half by 2030. joe biden with the states, the eu, japan and korea, likewise, the uk to set up a target of 70% cut by
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2035. this changes the calculations about global warming, but it does mean that all these governments are now under massive pressure to deliver these. now under massive pressure to deliverthese. it's now under massive pressure to deliver these. it's one thing to declare a promise, and another to get into shape and position policies that get you there. and i think the big difference now is that suddenly, you have a timeframe which makes it very difficult for current crop of politicians to wriggle out of. if you got a target for 2050, you won't be in power by the time that comes round. if you got a target of 2030, well, whatever happens right now could be found to you. taste well, whatever happens right now could be found to you.— well, whatever happens right now could be found to you. we all start to chance could be found to you. we all start to change our— could be found to you. we all start to change our habits _ could be found to you. we all start to change our habits because - could be found to you. we all start| to change our habits because we're on that very edge of the lift, or is it going to have to be legislated to make a change? i it going to have to be legislated to make a change?— make a change? i think it'll be a mix of everything. _ make a change? i think it'll be a mix of everything. some - make a change? i think it'll be a mix of everything. some of- make a change? i think it'll be a mix of everything. some of the l mix of everything. some of the changes that have reduced emissions already have happened without us noticing. so, all our electric
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appliances use far less power than they use to ten years ago. electricity demand has fallen as a result of that. without really realising we've put on the light switch, our power in the uk is more and more renewable, rather than coming from coal. but the heart of things remain to be tackle — how we heat our homes, how we get around. these will be much tougher to sort. agnes, how willing are people in france to embrace the idea that life is going to have to change, our choices are going to have to be different? ~ . ,, , choices are going to have to be different?— different? well, it takes two to tanuo. different? well, it takes two to tango. basically, _ different? well, it takes two to tango. basically, i— different? well, it takes two to tango. basically, i don't- different? well, it takes two to tango. basically, i don't know. different? well, it takes two to | tango. basically, i don't know if you're _ tango. basically, i don't know if you're aware, but a months ago, there _ you're aware, but a months ago, there was— you're aware, but a months ago, there was this momentous decision that french — there was this momentous decision that french mps passed. france has banned _ that french mps passed. france has banned domestic flights on short routes _ banned domestic flights on short routes that can be banned domestic flights on short routes that can he travelled by train _ routes that can he travelled by train and — routes that can he travelled by train and under three hours, but that's— train and under three hours, but that's momentous. it's the first
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time _ that's momentous. it's the first time any— that's momentous. it's the first time any major economy has actually prohibited _ time any major economy has actually prohibited domestic flights or short routes. _ prohibited domestic flights or short routes, and straightaway. it represents about 15% of french domestic— represents about 15% of french domestic flights. i was looking at figures _ domestic flights. i was looking at figures in — domestic flights. i was looking at figures in the uk. every year, they are half— figures in the uk. every year, they are half a — figures in the uk. every year, they are half a million flights between london _ are half a million flights between london and manchester when actually, it only _ london and manchester when actually, it only takes two hours by train. i think— it only takes two hours by train. i think what— it only takes two hours by train. i think what we've learned as citizens and consumers during the pandemic is that mass— and consumers during the pandemic is that mass tourism and mass air travelling, _ that mass tourism and mass air travelling, perhaps we've reached our limits — travelling, perhaps we've reached our limits. and we have to be ready to take _ our limits. and we have to be ready to take the — our limits. and we have to be ready to take the train in europe. it's enjoyable — to take the train in europe. it's enjoyable anyway. it's heavily subsidised, it doesn't cost much, and that's— subsidised, it doesn't cost much, and that's the way we used to do it. why not— and that's the way we used to do it. why not do— and that's the way we used to do it. why not do it on sort routes?
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lukenberg _ why not do it on sort routes? luxenberg introduced free public travel last year for everybody, which is something almost unimaginable here. jef, we knowjoe biden has a very different view of climate change, global warming from mr trump, climate change, global warming from mrtrump, but how climate change, global warming from mr trump, but how easy is it going to be getting stuff through congress?— to be getting stuff through congress? to be getting stuff through concress? ~ ., , . _ ., congress? well, nothing is easy for him. he's congress? well, nothing is easy for him- he's got _ congress? well, nothing is easy for him- he's got to — congress? well, nothing is easy for him. he's got to split _ congress? well, nothing is easy for him. he's got to split congress - congress? well, nothing is easy for him. he's got to split congress and | him. he's got to split congress and he's going — him. he's got to split congress and he's going to — him. he's got to split congress and he's going to have _ him. he's got to split congress and he's going to have to _ him. he's got to split congress and he's going to have to be _ him. he's got to split congress and he's going to have to be lucky. - him. he's got to split congress and l he's going to have to be lucky. we'd see a _ he's going to have to be lucky. we'd see a lot _ he's going to have to be lucky. we'd see a lot of— he's going to have to be lucky. we'd see a lot of difficulty. _ he's going to have to be lucky. we'd see a lot of difficulty. i _ he's going to have to be lucky. we'd see a lot of difficulty. i think, - see a lot of difficulty. i think, though. — see a lot of difficulty. i think, though. the _ see a lot of difficulty. i think, though, the interesting - see a lot of difficulty. i think, though, the interesting thing| see a lot of difficulty. i think, l though, the interesting thing is see a lot of difficulty. i think, - though, the interesting thing is how much _ though, the interesting thing is how much the _ though, the interesting thing is how much the ground _ though, the interesting thing is how much the ground is _ though, the interesting thing is how much the ground is changing - though, the interesting thing is how much the ground is changing and i much the ground is changing and renewables— much the ground is changing and renewables in— much the ground is changing and renewables in particular. - much the ground is changing and renewables in particular. the - renewables in particular. the technology— renewables in particular. the technology is _ renewables in particular. the technology is really, - renewables in particular. the technology is really, really. technology is really, really advancing _ technology is really, really advancing quickly. - technology is really, really advancing quickly. biden l technology is really, really. advancing quickly. biden this technology is really, really- advancing quickly. biden this week and drove — advancing quickly. biden this week and drove an— advancing quickly. biden this week and drove an electric— advancing quickly. biden this week and drove an electric ford - advancing quickly. biden this week and drove an electric ford f1 - advancing quickly. biden this week and drove an electric ford f150 i and drove an electric ford f150 pick-up— and drove an electric ford f150 pick-up truck _ and drove an electric ford f150 pick—up truck. this _ and drove an electric ford f150 pick—up truck. this is _ and drove an electric ford f150 pick—up truck. this is not - and drove an electric ford f150 pick—up truck. this is not a - and drove an electric ford f150 pick—up truck. this is not a carl and drove an electric ford f150 . pick—up truck. this is not a car for harvard _ pick—up truck. this is not a car for harvard professors. _ pick—up truck. this is not a car for harvard professors. this - pick—up truck. this is not a car for harvard professors. this is - pick—up truck. this is not a car for harvard professors. this is a - harvard professors. this is a
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pick-up— harvard professors. this is a pick-up truck _ harvard professors. this is a pick—up truck for— harvard professors. this is a pick—up truck for one - harvard professors. this is a pick—up truck for one herd . harvard professors. this is a - pick—up truck for one herd cattle, and he _ pick—up truck for one herd cattle, and he said — pick—up truck for one herd cattle, and he said "this _ pick—up truck for one herd cattle, and he said "this sucker- pick—up truck for one herd cattle, and he said "this sucker moves. and he said "this sucker moves fast~" _ and he said "this sucker moves fast~" it's— and he said "this sucker moves fast~" it's going _ and he said "this sucker moves fast." it's going to— and he said "this sucker moves fast." it's going to be _ and he said "this sucker moves fast." it's going to be perhaps. and he said "this sucker moves. fast." it's going to be perhaps the first mass—market— fast." it's going to be perhaps the first mass—market electric - fast." it's going to be perhaps the first mass—market electric vehiclej first mass—market electric vehicle that's— first mass—market electric vehicle that's going — first mass—market electric vehicle that's going to _ first mass—market electric vehicle that's going to be _ first mass—market electric vehicle that's going to be a _ first mass—market electric vehicle that's going to be a success - first mass—market electric vehicle that's going to be a success and l that's going to be a success and places— that's going to be a success and places outside _ that's going to be a success and places outside the _ that's going to be a success and places outside the coast, - that's going to be a success and places outside the coast, and i that's going to be a success and i places outside the coast, and it's cheap— places outside the coast, and it's cheap relatively, _ places outside the coast, and it's cheap relatively, and _ places outside the coast, and it's cheap relatively, and this- places outside the coast, and it's cheap relatively, and this is- places outside the coast, and it's cheap relatively, and this is the i cheap relatively, and this is the way that— cheap relatively, and this is the way that energy _ cheap relatively, and this is the way that energy efficiency - cheap relatively, and this is the way that energy efficiency is . cheap relatively, and this is the i way that energy efficiency is going to happen — way that energy efficiency is going to happen. people _ way that energy efficiency is going to happen. people don't— way that energy efficiency is going to happen. people don't mind - way that energy efficiency is going. to happen. people don't mind more efficient— to happen. people don't mind more efficient buildings— to happen. people don't mind more efficient buildings and _ to happen. people don't mind more efficient buildings and better- to happen. people don't mind more efficient buildings and better cars, i efficient buildings and better cars, and we _ efficient buildings and better cars, and we can't — efficient buildings and better cars, and we can't change _ efficient buildings and better cars, and we can't change it— efficient buildings and better cars, and we can't change it from - efficient buildings and better cars, and we can't change it from just i efficient buildings and better cars, i and we can't change it from just not writing _ and we can't change it from just not writing on— and we can't change it from just not writing on aeroplanes. _ and we can't change it from just not writing on aeroplanes. the - writing on aeroplanes. the international— writing on aeroplanes. the international energy- writing on aeroplanes. the - international energy association, the group — international energy association, the group set _ international energy association, the group set up _ international energy association, the group set up after— international energy association, the group set up after opec, - international energy association, the group set up after opec, has| international energy association, i the group set up after opec, has a path to— the group set up after opec, has a path to energy _ the group set up after opec, has a path to energy by _ the group set up after opec, has a path to energy by 2050. _ the group set up after opec, has a path to energy by 2050. they- the group set up after opec, has a path to energy by 2050. they sayl path to energy by 2050. they say that only — path to energy by 2050. they say that only 4% _ path to energy by 2050. they say that only 4% of— path to energy by 2050. they say that only 4% of the _ path to energy by 2050. they say that only 4% of the reduction - path to energy by 2050. they say that only 4% of the reduction has| path to energy by 2050. they say. that only 4% of the reduction has to come _ that only 4% of the reduction has to come from — that only 4% of the reduction has to come from lifestyle _ that only 4% of the reduction has to come from lifestyle changes - that only 4% of the reduction has to come from lifestyle changes from . that only 4% of the reduction has to i come from lifestyle changes from us. the rest _ come from lifestyle changes from us. the rest of _ come from lifestyle changes from us. the rest of it — come from lifestyle changes from us. the rest of it can _ come from lifestyle changes from us. the rest of it can come _ come from lifestyle changes from us. the rest of it can come from - come from lifestyle changes from us. the rest of it can come from big - the rest of it can come from big structural— the rest of it can come from big structural changes _ the rest of it can come from big structural changes that - the rest of it can come from big structural changes that with - structural changes that with intelligent— structural changes that with intelligent governments - structural changes that with . intelligent governments should structural changes that with - intelligent governments should be actually _ intelligent governments should be actually quite _ intelligent governments should be actually quite straightforward - intelligent governments should be actually quite straightforward to l actually quite straightforward to implement _ actually quite straightforward to implement i— actually quite straightforward to implement. i know— actually quite straightforward to implement. i know the - actually quite straightforward to implement. i know the politics. actually quite straightforward to . implement. i know the politics are
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hard _ implement. i know the politics are hard perhaps— implement. i know the politics are hard. perhaps especially— implement. i know the politics are hard. perhaps especially in - implement. i know the politics are hard. perhaps especially in the - implement. i know the politics are| hard. perhaps especially in the us. but i _ hard. perhaps especially in the us. but i do _ hard. perhaps especially in the us. but i do think— hard. perhaps especially in the us. but i do think it's _ hard. perhaps especially in the us. but i do think it's a _ hard. perhaps especially in the us. but i do think it's a period - hard. perhaps especially in the us. but i do think it's a period of- but i do think it's a period of optimism _ but i do think it's a period of optimism for— but i do think it's a period of optimism for climate - but i do think it's a period ofl optimism for climate change. but i do think it's a period of- optimism for climate change. hora? optimism for climate change. how lovel to optimism for climate change. how lovely to have _ optimism for climate change. how lovely to have some _ optimism for climate change. lovely to have some optimism. optimism for climate change.- lovely to have some optimism. let's turn our attention to the middle east. after 11 days of violence with both sides claiming victory. but israel clearly does not think it has diminished hamas enough, and hamas still has rockets aimed at israeli targets. there is also the major problem of violence between jews and israeli arabs, something not seen in the region for many years. the truce faced an early test on friday when fresh clashes broke out at the al—aqsa mosque compound in occupied eastjerusalem. david, the casualties on each side are starkly different, at least 243 people killed in gaza. asjeremy bowen has been saying.
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it's an asymmetric war. you have a wealthy side on one side and impoverished force on the other. one of the things that goes towards leveling that imbalance is rockets. we've seen that in the second world war and the first gulf war. if one side can fire rockets from mobile launchers that are hard to detect until the lot champions, there can be an advantage. i think right now in military terms, the hamas commanders have tried to make an assessment that all the rockets they launch, 90% were intercepted by the israelis. 10% did cause fatalities and injuries. they'll be trying to work out how many remaining rockets they have, how quickly they can get back into the business of making more and on the israeli side, they're going to be doing those assessments as well to try to work out how much of a threat hamas remains with its rockets. i saw a
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report earlier today that the mayors of two of the israeli towns hit hardest by hamas rockets objected a cease—fire because they said the threat remains. indeed. forthem, they're very alive to threat remains. indeed. for them, they're very alive to the auction that the hamas commanders have of continuing this. fit that the hamas commanders have of continuing this.— continuing this. of course, we understand — continuing this. of course, we understand that _ continuing this. of course, we understand that iran - continuing this. of course, we understand that iran supplies | continuing this. of course, we - understand that iran supplies hamas. they build tunnels and joe biden has offered to replenish what israel has used during this recent conflict. yes, to bolster the standard of israeli protection, and within gaza, from what we understand from what's been reported, it seems that the rockets have assembled within gaza, almost certainly with iranian guidance and help. the extent to which the attacks on the tunnels have disrupted that process or have
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to wait and see —— we'll have to wait and see. to wait and see -- we'll have to wait and see.— to wait and see -- we'll have to wait and see. . . , , wait and see. there were clashes in jerusalem and _ wait and see. there were clashes in jerusalem and other— wait and see. there were clashes in jerusalem and other parts - wait and see. there were clashes in jerusalem and other parts of- wait and see. there were clashes in jerusalem and other parts of israel| jerusalem and other parts of israel as well. you must remember that 20% of the population of israel are arab israelis. these classes, though, are civilian against civilian, not hamas against the state of israel. a very different dynamic.— against the state of israel. a very different dynamic. yes, that's quite new. i different dynamic. yes, that's quite new- lthink— different dynamic. yes, that's quite new. i think in _ different dynamic. yes, that's quite new. i think in the _ different dynamic. yes, that's quite new. i think in the last _ different dynamic. yes, that's quite new. i think in the last 11 _ different dynamic. yes, that's quite new. i think in the last 11 days, - new. i think in the last 11 days, there's— new. i think in the last 11 days, there's been some optimistic, but also many— there's been some optimistic, but also many more, to be pessimistic about— also many more, to be pessimistic about the — also many more, to be pessimistic about the future. the slight hope is diplomacy's back, but we can also see joe _ diplomacy's back, but we can also see joe biden is quite stark in his approach — see joe biden is quite stark in his approach to the crisis. he was quite hesitant— approach to the crisis. he was quite hesitant and there are many voices in the _ hesitant and there are many voices in the democratic party who want him to be much— in the democratic party who want him to be much stuff with israel. ——
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much _ to be much stuff with israel. —— much tougher. the un could come back on the _ much tougher. the un could come back on the world _ much tougher. the un could come back on the world stage and be much more dynamic— on the world stage and be much more dynamic and _ on the world stage and be much more dynamic and participate much more than he _ dynamic and participate much more than he did — dynamic and participate much more than he did in the last four years of trump. — than he did in the last four years of trump, and indeed, france pushed for a solution — of trump, and indeed, france pushed for a solution under the un security council _ for a solution under the un security council of— for a solution under the un security council. of course, europe is very concerned — council. of course, europe is very concerned. we can see protests in paris _ concerned. we can see protests in paris the — concerned. we can see protests in paris. the minister and concerned. we can see protests in paris. the ministerand france had to ban— paris. the ministerand france had to ban protest, which took place anyway~ — to ban protest, which took place anyway. we saw some very anti—semitic slogans, but also attacks — anti—semitic slogans, but also attacks. and this is becoming more and more _ attacks. and this is becoming more and more current in europe, and that's— and more current in europe, and that's a — and more current in europe, and that's a great concern. now, the problem — that's a great concern. now, the problem is — that's a great concern. now, the problem is the two states... i think
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that's— problem is the two states... i think that's the _ problem is the two states... i think that's the next step for world diplomacy 's — what next? something that struck— diplomacy 's — what next? something that struck me which is very sad is that struck me which is very sad is that only— that struck me which is very sad is that only a — that struck me which is very sad is that only a couple weeks ago, three weeks _ that only a couple weeks ago, three weeks ago. — that only a couple weeks ago, three weeks ago, there were talks of the new government in israel for the first time — new government in israel for the first time the participation of a —— an independent arab party. now, this is also, _ an independent arab party. now, this is also, we _ an independent arab party. now, this is also, we are going to have... there _ is also, we are going to have... there have _ is also, we are going to have... there have been four collections in the last— there have been four collections in the last years. there might be another— the last years. there might be another one. the last years. there might be anotherone. —— the last years. there might be another one. —— four elections. israeli — another one. —— four elections. israeli democracy is affected. what is the _ israeli democracy is affected. what is the next — israeli democracy is affected. what is the next solution? the two state solution _ is the next solution? the two state solution is — is the next solution? the two state solution is a — is the next solution? the two state solution is a thing of the past. we know as solution is a thing of the past. know as well solution is a thing of the past. , know as well thatjoe solution is a thing of the past. , know as well that joe biden has a know as well thatjoe biden has a very different approach to foreign policy from donald trump, but the us vetoed the french cease—fire proposal while at the same time putting forward one of his own. can
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you explain that?— you explain that? yeah, i think this is a traditional— you explain that? yeah, i think this is a traditional role _ you explain that? yeah, i think this is a traditional role of— you explain that? yeah, i think this is a traditional role of the _ you explain that? yeah, i think this is a traditional role of the us - you explain that? yeah, i think this is a traditional role of the us in - is a traditional role of the us in middle — is a traditional role of the us in middle east— is a traditional role of the us in middle east policy— is a traditional role of the us in middle east policy making. - is a traditional role of the us in| middle east policy making. this is a traditional role of the us in . middle east policy making. this is actually— middle east policy making. this is actually reminding _ middle east policy making. this is actually reminding me _ middle east policy making. this is actually reminding me of- middle east policy making. this is actually reminding me of times. middle east policy making. this is| actually reminding me of times on the aeroplane _ actually reminding me of times on the aeroplane with _ actually reminding me of times on the aeroplane with the _ actually reminding me of times on the aeroplane with the previous i the aeroplane with the previous secretary — the aeroplane with the previous secretary of _ the aeroplane with the previous secretary of state _ the aeroplane with the previous secretary of state going - the aeroplane with the previous secretary of state going to - the aeroplane with the previous secretary of state going to tell the aeroplane with the previous . secretary of state going to tel aviv and jerusalem _ secretary of state going to tel aviv and jerusalem. what _ secretary of state going to tel aviv and jerusalem. what biden's - secretary of state going to tel avivl and jerusalem. what biden's people are saying _ and jerusalem. what biden's people are saying about— and jerusalem. what biden's people are saying about this _ and jerusalem. what biden's people are saying about this is _ and jerusalem. what biden's people are saying about this is he _ and jerusalem. what biden's people are saying about this is he has - and jerusalem. what biden's people are saying about this is he has a - are saying about this is he has a long _ are saying about this is he has a long relationship— are saying about this is he has a long relationship with _ are saying about this is he has a i long relationship with netanyahu, are saying about this is he has a - long relationship with netanyahu, he has said _ long relationship with netanyahu, he has said proudly— long relationship with netanyahu, he has said proudly he _ long relationship with netanyahu, he has said proudly he once _ long relationship with netanyahu, he has said proudly he once sent - has said proudly he once sent netanyahu _ has said proudly he once sent netanyahu and _ has said proudly he once sent netanyahu and autograph - has said proudly he once sentl netanyahu and autograph with has said proudly he once sent. netanyahu and autograph with "i don't _ netanyahu and autograph with "i don't agree — netanyahu and autograph with "i don't agree with _ netanyahu and autograph with "i don't agree with the _ netanyahu and autograph with "i don't agree with the damn - netanyahu and autograph with "i don't agree with the damn thing | netanyahu and autograph with "i . don't agree with the damn thing you say, but _ don't agree with the damn thing you say, but i _ don't agree with the damn thing you say. but i love — don't agree with the damn thing you say, but i love you." _ don't agree with the damn thing you say, but i love you." he _ don't agree with the damn thing you say, but i love you." he thought- don't agree with the damn thing you say, but i love you." he thought notj say, but i love you." he thought not ratcheting _ say, but i love you." he thought not ratcheting up — say, but i love you." he thought not ratcheting up the _ say, but i love you." he thought not ratcheting up the pressure - say, but i love you." he thought not ratcheting up the pressure on- ratcheting up the pressure on netanyahu. _ ratcheting up the pressure on netanyahu, not _ ratcheting up the pressure on netanyahu, not as _ ratcheting up the pressure on netanyahu, not as john - ratcheting up the pressure on netanyahu, not asjohn kerryj ratcheting up the pressure on. netanyahu, not as john kerry did during _ netanyahu, not as john kerry did during the — netanyahu, not as john kerry did during the last _
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netanyahu, not as john kerry did during the last israeli _ netanyahu, not as john kerry did during the last israeli 48, - netanyahu, not as john kerry did during the last israeli 48, goingl netanyahu, not as john kerry did. during the last israeli 48, going in failing _ during the last israeli 48, going in failing to — during the last israeli 48, going in failing to get — during the last israeli 48, going in failing to get a _ during the last israeli 48, going in failing to get a cease—fire, - during the last israeli 48, going in failing to get a cease—fire, he - failing to get a cease—fire, he thought— failing to get a cease—fire, he thought doing _ failing to get a cease—fire, he thought doing that _ failing to get a cease—fire, he - thought doing that behind—the—scenes itii-i'it thought doing that behind—the—scenes might work— thought doing that behind—the—scenes might work -- — thought doing that behind—the—scenes might work -- four— thought doing that behind—the—scenes might work —— four a. _ thought doing that behind—the—scenes might work —— four a. he _ thought doing that behind—the—scenes might work —— four a. he was- thought doing that behind—the—scenes might work —— four a. he was a - might work —— four a. he was a subcontractor _ might work —— four a. he was a subcontractor of— might work —— four a. he was a subcontractor of the _ might work —— four a. he was aj subcontractor of the republican party _ subcontractor of the republican party under— subcontractor of the republican party under both _ subcontractor of the republican party under both a _ subcontractor of the republican party under both a obama - subcontractor of the republican party under both a obama and. subcontractor of the republican . party under both a obama and the trump— party under both a obama and the trump administration. _ party under both a obama and the trump administration. there - party under both a obama and the trump administration. there wasl party under both a obama and the - trump administration. there was some leverage _ trump administration. there was some leverage biden — trump administration. there was some leverage biden had _ trump administration. there was some leverage biden had to— trump administration. there was some leverage biden had to play— trump administration. there was some leverage biden had to play against- leverage biden had to play against netanyahu — leverage biden had to play against netanyahu. whether— leverage biden had to play against netanyahu. whether they- leverage biden had to play against netanyahu. whether they have - leverage biden had to play againstl netanyahu. whether they have any real movement _ netanyahu. whether they have any real movement possible, _ netanyahu. whether they have any real movement possible, the - netanyahu. whether they have any real movement possible, the two l real movement possible, the two state _ real movement possible, the two state solution _ real movement possible, the two state solution seems _ real movement possible, the two state solution seems dead, - real movement possible, the two state solution seems dead, theyl real movement possible, the two . state solution seems dead, they do seem _ state solution seems dead, they do seem to _ state solution seems dead, they do seem to be — state solution seems dead, they do seem to be making _ state solution seems dead, they do seem to be making progress- state solution seems dead, they do. seem to be making progress towards an iran _ seem to be making progress towards an iran deal. — seem to be making progress towards an iran deal, which _ seem to be making progress towards an iran deal, which will— seem to be making progress towards an iran deal, which will require - seem to be making progress towards an iran deal, which will require in- an iran deal, which will require in israel— an iran deal, which will require in israel not — an iran deal, which will require in israel not to _ an iran deal, which will require in israel not to blow _ an iran deal, which will require in israel not to blow it _ an iran deal, which will require in israel not to blow it up. - an iran deal, which will require in israel not to blow it up. maybe i israel not to blow it up. maybe there's— israel not to blow it up. maybe there's some _ israel not to blow it up. maybe there's some room _ israel not to blow it up. maybe there's some room for- israel not to blow it up. maybe there's some room for things. israel not to blow it up. maybe i there's some room for things to expand — there's some room for things to expand after _ there's some room for things to expand after this— there's some room for things to expand after this little - there's some room for things to expand after this little bit - there's some room for things to expand after this little bit of- expand after this little bit of peacemaking _ expand after this little bit of peacemaking. i'm _ expand after this little bit of peacemaking. i'm not- expand after this little bit of- peacemaking. i'm not optimistic in this case, — peacemaking. i'm not optimistic in this case, but— peacemaking. i'm not optimistic in this case, but you _ peacemaking. i'm not optimistic in this case, but you have _ peacemaking. i'm not optimistic in this case, but you have to - peacemaking. i'm not optimistic in this case, but you have to start - this case, but you have to start somewhere _ this case, but you have to start somewhere-— this case, but you have to start somewhere. , , ., ~ , somewhere. just quickly, how likely is it to ou somewhere. just quickly, how likely is it to you both _ somewhere. just quickly, how likely is it to you both think— somewhere. just quickly, how likely is it to you both think that _ somewhere. just quickly, how likely is it to you both think that there - is it to you both think that there will be more nations around the world that are recognising
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palestine? it world that are recognising palestine?— world that are recognising palestine? . palestine? it will begin with the israelis making _ palestine? it will begin with the israelis making peace _ palestine? it will begin with the israelis making peace with - palestine? it will begin with the israelis making peace with the i palestine? it will begin with the i israelis making peace with the gulf states— israelis making peace with the gulf states rather— israelis making peace with the gulf states rather than— israelis making peace with the gulf states rather than the _ israelis making peace with the gulf states rather than the other- israelis making peace with the gulf states rather than the other way i states rather than the other way around — states rather than the other way around i— states rather than the other way around. idon't— states rather than the other way around. i don't think _ states rather than the other way around. i don't think the - states rather than the other way around. i don't think the us - states rather than the other way around. i don't think the us will| states rather than the other way . around. i don't think the us will be as around. idon't think the us will be as against— around. i don't think the us will be as against it — around. idon't think the us will be as against it as— around. i don't think the us will be as against it as it _ around. i don't think the us will be as against it as it used _ around. i don't think the us will be as against it as it used to - around. i don't think the us will be as against it as it used to be. - around. i don't think the us will be as against it as it used to be. i- as against it as it used to be. i think— as against it as it used to be. i think the — as against it as it used to be. i think the landscape _ as against it as it used to be. i think the landscape is - as against it as it used to be. ii think the landscape is changing their— think the landscape is changing their in— think the landscape is changing their in congress— think the landscape is changing their in congress and _ think the landscape is changing their in congress and in- think the landscape is changing their in congress and in public. their in congress and in public opinion, — their in congress and in public opinion, so— their in congress and in public opinion, so maybe _ their in congress and in public opinion, so maybe there's- their in congress and in public. opinion, so maybe there's more their in congress and in public- opinion, so maybe there's more room without— opinion, so maybe there's more room without irritating _ opinion, so maybe there's more room without irritating the _ opinion, so maybe there's more room without irritating the americans - opinion, so maybe there's more room without irritating the americans to - without irritating the americans to do so _ without irritating the americans to do so. lit”s — without irritating the americans to doso. �*, . . .,y ., do so. it's inflammatory to the israelis do so. it's inflammatory to the lsraelis as _ do so. it's inflammatory to the israelis as well, _ do so. it's inflammatory to the israelis as well, isn't _ do so. it's inflammatory to the israelis as well, isn't it, - do so. it's inflammatory to the l israelis as well, isn't it, agnes? do you think it's more likely that palestine will get more recognition? well, there's a problem with discriminating against palestinians and being second rate citizens, so this will— and being second rate citizens, so this will have to be addressed. but of course, — this will have to be addressed. but of course, israel doesn't listen to europe. — of course, israel doesn't listen to europe, he — of course, israel doesn't listen to europe, he listens only to washington. so, the ball is in biden's— washington. so, the ball is in biden's court.
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before we go, i would like to ask each of you if there's one subject we all ought to be talking about but are not ? jef, first? this is where you get to stretch her legs and go off peace. it's like a jam sessions for news. i legs and go off peace. it's like a jam sessions for news.- legs and go off peace. it's like a jam sessions for news. i 'ust want to register — jam sessions for news. i 'ust want to register my * jam sessions for news. i 'ust want to register my fury _ jam sessions for news. i 'ust want to register my fury at _ jam sessions for news. i just want to register my fury at bitcoin, - jam sessions for news. i just want to register my fury at bitcoin, a i to register my fury at bitcoin, a scheme — to register my fury at bitcoin, a scheme where _ to register my fury at bitcoin, a scheme where if _ to register my fury at bitcoin, a scheme where if it _ to register my fury at bitcoin, a scheme where if it goes - to register my fury at bitcoin, a scheme where if it goes up- to register my fury at bitcoin, a| scheme where if it goes up 30% to register my fury at bitcoin, a . scheme where if it goes up 30% a day. _ scheme where if it goes up 30% a day, the — scheme where if it goes up 30% a day. the binding _ scheme where if it goes up 30% a day, the binding of— scheme where if it goes up 30% a day, the binding of bitcoin - scheme where if it goes up 30% a day, the binding of bitcoin is - scheme where if it goes up 30% a | day, the binding of bitcoin is using the electrical— day, the binding of bitcoin is using the electrical output— day, the binding of bitcoin is using the electrical output of— day, the binding of bitcoin is using the electrical output of great - the electrical output of great britain — the electrical output of great britain every _ the electrical output of great britain every day _ the electrical output of great britain every day to - the electrical output of great britain every day to produce i the electrical output of great - britain every day to produce these coins _ britain every day to produce these coins with— britain every day to produce these coins with no— britain every day to produce these coins with no value _ britain every day to produce these coins with no value for _ britain every day to produce these coins with no value for everybodyl coins with no value for everybody except _ coins with no value for everybody except terrorists _ coins with no value for everybody except terrorists and _ coins with no value for everybody except terrorists and drug - coins with no value for everybody i except terrorists and drug dealers. regular— except terrorists and drug dealers. regular currencies _ except terrorists and drug dealers. regular currencies are _ except terrorists and drug dealers. regular currencies are perfectly i regular currencies are perfectly affected — regular currencies are perfectly affected. f regular currencies are perfectly affected. j ., , affected. they're not underpinned, but i was talking _ affected. they're not underpinned, but i was talking to _ affected. they're not underpinned, but i was talking to a _ affected. they're not underpinned, but i was talking to a protection i but i was talking to a protection
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officer the other day about how you can buy an environmentally friendly bitcoin. is can buy an environmentally friendly bitcoin. . . can buy an environmentally friendly bitcoin. , . ., can buy an environmentally friendly bitcoin. , . . , , bitcoin. is alleged. it all depends on whether— bitcoin. is alleged. it all depends on whether power _ bitcoin. is alleged. it all depends on whether power is _ bitcoin. is alleged. it all depends on whether power is generated. l on whether power is generated. that's all it comes down to. you have to do _ that's all it comes down to. you have to do your— that's all it comes down to. you have to do your homework in order to be environmentally friendly. i don't understand it enough, do you? sorry? bitcoin, do understand it enough, do you? sorry? bitcoin. do you _ understand it enough, do you? sorry? bitcoin, do you understand _ understand it enough, do you? sorry? bitcoin, do you understand it - understand it enough, do you? sorry? bitcoin, do you understand it well - bitcoin, do you understand it well enough to invest? i bitcoin, do you understand it well enough to invest?— enough to invest? i know nothing about bitcoin, _ enough to invest? i know nothing about bitcoin, so _ enough to invest? i know nothing about bitcoin, so i _ enough to invest? i know nothing about bitcoin, so i would - enough to invest? i know nothing about bitcoin, so i would not - about bitcoin, so i would not approach... i wouldn't come close to bitcoin _ approach... i wouldn't come close to bitcoin. ., w' approach... i wouldn't come close to bitcoin. ., ., approach... i wouldn't come close to bitcoin. ,, ., ., . . �*, bitcoin. stick to the euro. what's the story that — bitcoin. stick to the euro. what's the story that you'd _ bitcoin. stick to the euro. what's the story that you'd like - bitcoin. stick to the euro. what's the story that you'd like to - bitcoin. stick to the euro. what's the story that you'd like to drawl the story that you'd like to draw our attention to? it’s the story that you'd like to draw our attention to?— the story that you'd like to draw our attention to? it's like bitcoin, we talked about _ our attention to? it's like bitcoin, we talked about it _ our attention to? it's like bitcoin, we talked about it a _ our attention to? it's like bitcoin, we talked about it a bit _ our attention to? it's like bitcoin, we talked about it a bit but - our attention to? it's like bitcoin, we talked about it a bit but it - our attention to? it's like bitcoin, we talked about it a bit but it wasj we talked about it a bit but it was such— we talked about it a bit but it was suchjoy— we talked about it a bit but it was suchjoy to— we talked about it a bit but it was suchjoy to go we talked about it a bit but it was such joy to go back to a museum and an art— such joy to go back to a museum and an art gallery this weekend. it was the same — an art gallery this weekend. it was the same in — an art gallery this weekend. it was the same in france as in britain. and we — the same in france as in britain. and we learn... one lockdown after
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another, _ and we learn... one lockdown after another, we — and we learn... one lockdown after another, we learn things. during the first lockdown in france, book shops were not— first lockdown in france, book shops were not deemed essential, but a few months _ were not deemed essential, but a few months later, a decree was passed where _ months later, a decree was passed where they— months later, a decree was passed where they were indeed essential. the second lockdown was so much better— the second lockdown was so much better because book shops, wine shops. _ better because book shops, wine shops, chocolate shops and florist were _ shops, chocolate shops and florist were deemed essential, and that change — were deemed essential, and that change. forthe next were deemed essential, and that change. for the next lockdown, if or when _ change. for the next lockdown, if or when there — change. for the next lockdown, if or when there is one, i would urge governments in europe to open museums— governments in europe to open museums because i think it would do a lot of— museums because i think it would do a lot of good for mental health of our nation — a lot of good for mental health of our nation. you are surrounded, you don't _ our nation. you are surrounded, you don't have _ our nation. you are surrounded, you don't have to — our nation. you are surrounded, you don't have to buy stuff and are big places _ don't have to buy stuff and are big places you — don't have to buy stuff and are big places. you can open the windows and be socially _ places. you can open the windows and be socially distance, and it's essential— be socially distance, and it's essential to me. so, be socially distance, and it's essentialto me. so, i've been very happy— essentialto me. so, i've been very happy this— essentialto me. so, i've been very happy this week because i've returned _ happy this week because i've returned to big museums. just very
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briefl , returned to big museums. just very briefly. what _ returned to big museums. just very briefly, what did _ returned to big museums. just very briefly, what did you _ returned to big museums. just very briefly, what did you miss, - returned to big museums. just very briefly, what did you miss, jef? - returned to big museums. just very| briefly, what did you miss, jef? and lockdown? yeah. _ briefly, what did you miss, jef? and lockdown? yeah. people, _ briefly, what did you miss, jef? and lockdown? yeah. people, mostly. l briefly, what did you miss, jef? and lockdown? yeah. people, mostly. i| lockdown? yeah. people, mostly. i arree lockdown? yeah. people, mostly. i agree about— lockdown? yeah. people, mostly. i agree about museums _ lockdown? yeah. people, mostly. i agree about museums and - lockdown?m people, mostly. i agree about museums and culture. | lockdown?m people, mostly. i. agree about museums and culture. it -ets agree about museums and culture. it gets forgotten — agree about museums and culture. it gets forgotten to _ agree about museums and culture. it gets forgotten to easily, _ agree about museums and culture. it gets forgotten to easily, and - agree about museums and culture. it gets forgotten to easily, and it - agree about museums and culture. it gets forgotten to easily, and it is - gets forgotten to easily, and it is fantastic— gets forgotten to easily, and it is fantastic to— gets forgotten to easily, and it is fantastic to see _ gets forgotten to easily, and it is fantastic to see the _ gets forgotten to easily, and it is fantastic to see the blood - gets forgotten to easily, and it is| fantastic to see the blood getting back into — fantastic to see the blood getting back into circulation _ fantastic to see the blood getting back into circulation of— fantastic to see the blood getting back into circulation of cultural. back into circulation of cultural life _ back into circulation of cultural life. �* . back into circulation of cultural life. �* , �* back into circulation of cultural life. , ,, life. i'm sure you've missed coming into broadcasting. _ life. i'm sure you've missed coming into broadcasting. of— life. i'm sure you've missed coming into broadcasting. of course, - life. i'm sure you've missed coming into broadcasting. of course, if- life. i'm sure you've missed coming into broadcasting. of course, if the| into broadcasting. of course, if the camaraderie. _ into broadcasting. of course, if the camaraderie, at _ into broadcasting. of course, if the camaraderie, at the _ into broadcasting. of course, if the camaraderie, at the banter. - into broadcasting. of course, if the camaraderie, at the banter. i - into broadcasting. of course, if the camaraderie, at the banter. i think| camaraderie, at the banter. i think i've been more efficient working at home. you can get on with things, but i do miss the social contact. if i could just say, i've got to just i'll grant, something we should do more on — plastic waste. we forgotten about it with covid and climate change, but the plastic waste problem is getting worse, not better. and i'm withjef, having a little fume about that. better. and i'm with jef, having a little fume about that.— better. and i'm with jef, having a little fume about that. we've been usinr little fume about that. we've been using plastics _ little fume about that. we've been using plastics more _ little fume about that. we've been using plastics more and _ little fume about that. we've been using plastics more and masks. i little fume about that. we've been i using plastics more and masks. yes, ou find using plastics more and masks. yes, you find them _ using plastics more and masks. use: you find them everywhere. there's a website that gathers pictures of discarded masks. they been found on
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coral reefs and barley, but that's just part of the problem. the biggest problem is the whole system of retail and of production and of the petrochemical industries and the way we throw away culture. that's been talk about and david attenborough has sounded off for some time. there have been some changes, but i think we perhaps taken our eye off the ball a little bit. that something i think we need more focus on. rant over. flat bit. that something i think we need more focus on. rant over.— more focus on. rant over. not very fan at more focus on. rant over. not very fancy at all. — more focus on. rant over. not very fancy at all. i — more focus on. rant over. not very fancy at all. i know— more focus on. rant over. not very fancy at all. i know this _ more focus on. rant over. not very fancy at all. i know this is - fancy at all. i know this is probably unorthodox, but i would like to tell you all about a story i think deserves far more attention. it's about a town in northampton. they have settled a long—standing to group disagreement of a name a river's pronunciation. if you live in northampton, they say the river
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need. in peterborough, it's the river nene. how did they spell this? via a game of core k. northampton one. —— game of croquet. isn't that a civilised way? that brings us to the end of dateline london for this week. thank you to our guests. and to our science editor david shukman. thank you as well for watching. thank you for watching and do join shaun ley next week, same time, same place. i survived it! goodbye.
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good evening. it's been cool, it's been pretty wet and unusually windy — for this time of year, that is — with large waves around, and it's because we've got this deep area of low pressure. it's actually given about two thirds of the monthly rainfall in some areas in the space of 36 hours, and it's given some large gusts of wind. most of these are around coastlines over the hills, but even inland, we've had 50—mph gusts of wind, which is a land gale, and as i say, at this time of year, it's pretty unusual. through the night, more wet and windy weather to come. we're changing our wind direction gradually to the north, pushing this rain out of the way, so where it starts to clear in the northwest, it will be a chilly night. some frost potentially across scotland, but there'll still be for eastern scotland, for england and wales, a lot of cloud around first thing on saturday, but it'll be a gradually brightening picture. but there'll be some showers around as well, and then come sunday, we've got another weather front coming in off the atlantic to bring more rain. so, this is how saturday's shaping up. still strong winds initially coming down from the north, pushing our rain out of the way, allowing brighter skies,
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the promise of more sunshine, but a scattering of showers as well. given the strength of the may sunshine, those showers could well turn heavy and thundery into the afternoon. and despite some sunshine, we're only looking at 12 to possibly 14 or 15 further south, so disappointingly low for this time of year because we've got, once again, arctic air, which tends to get cut off, then, as we go through tomorrow night and the showers fade away. actually, with a window of drier weather by night, it's looking quite chilly by the time we get to sunday morning. temperatures close to freezing more widely in the north, but already for northern ireland, the next area of rain is starting to wind its way in. so, sunday looks as if it might well start chilly but bright in eastern areas and probably hold onto that drier, brighter weather in the northeast of scotland. but there'll be some showers thrown ahead of this main band of rain and heavy showers following on behind. we could have three or four hours of quite heavy rain once again, so temperatures won't be any great shapes — 12—14 potentially. because of all that cloud, a brisk breeze and that rain.
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once that clears out of the way, the low pressure hangs around, really, for monday, tuesday, wednesday. lots of showers potentially, but there's just a hint as we approach the end of next week that we could see a ridge of high pressure coming in to bring some more settled weather. but that's a long way off from now — please stay tuned to the forecast. bye— bye.
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this is bbc news the headlines: in the wake of the damning report into the bbc�*s panorama interview with princess diana, its business as usual today — but the prime minister speaks of his sympathy after prince william voiced anger at the way his mother was deceived. ican i can only imagine the feelings of the royal family and i can only imagine the feelings of the royalfamily and i hope very much that the bbc will be taking every possible step to make sure nothing like this ever happens again. it comes as prince harry talks about the impact his mother's death had on his behaviour in later life. i was not drinking monday through friday but i would probably drink a weeks worth in one day on friday or a saturday night. spain says british tourists can return from monday — but you'll still have to quarantine on your return home.
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