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as the news conference as well, as the progress that blood report talking up. —— that vladimir putin was talking of. this the scene live in geneva as we awaitjoe biden. the us and russian presidents have met for the first time. the much anticipated summit has finished and switzerland. in a news conference, putin says the two men discussed at strategic nuclear stability and agreement that us and russian ambassadors will return to their capitals. translation: there has been no hostility. on the contrary, our meeting took place in a constructive spirit. fix, contrary, our meeting took place in a constructive spirit.— a constructive spirit. a thumbs up from president _ a constructive spirit. a thumbs up from president biden _ a constructive spirit. a thumbs up from president biden as - a constructive spirit. a thumbs up from president biden as he - a constructive spirit. a thumbs up| from president biden as he leaves the summit. he will give a news conference before heading back to
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washington. and as we give you the news conference here live, it is assumed to begin. we will stay with that image ofjoe biden about to come towards the podium. we'll bring you that live on bbc news. earlier, a cordial handshake between the two leaders before about four hours of talks on the shores of lake geneva. ahead of the meeting, expectations were low. relations were at rock bottom. we'll bring you all developments and analysis from that summit in geneva. hello and welcome to bbc world news.
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the first summit between the united states and russia since president biden took office has ended and switzerland with president putin telling a news conference in the last hour or so that they'd discussed nuclear stability. some issues were quite constructive. president biden is due to give that conference in the next few minutes. let me put the live pictures up in the scene as it has been for a little while, set for the american president. we expect that in the next little while, having heard from vladimir putin. just a little bit of movement. we saw a sound check a short while ago, but we heard for an hourfrom vladimir putin in terms of the various areas of constructive dialogue as he put it. we know there will be a return of ambassadors between the two countries, but on other areas, there were huge goals
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and no real indication that those have been closed. let's go back to mark lowen. what did you make of that press conference?— that press conference? matthew, there were _ that press conference? matthew, there were some _ that press conference? matthew, there were some warm _ that press conference? matthew, there were some warm words - that press conference? matthew, i there were some warm words from vladimir putin towardsjoe biden. he said the talks were fruitful and constructive and no hostility. he said the two leaders spoke the same language. there were areas of agreement, a decision to continue talks about security, about capping nuclear arms, potentially about climate change also. but there were clear areas of disagreement as well. the russian president was bullish about the issue of cybersecurity, denying russian involvement in ransomware attacks. one area where there was agreement was on the restoring of ambassadors. the us and russia earlier than the year, when
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joe biden called vladimir putin a killer, and putin replied "it takes one to know one. " they both have agreed to restore the diplomats in both capitals. agreed to restore the diplomats in both capitals-— both capitals. translation: return of ambassadors - both capitals. translation: return of ambassadors to - both capitals. translation: | return of ambassadors to their workplaces. return of american ambassador to moscow and our ambassador to moscow and our ambassador to moscow and our ambassador to washington, we agreed that they— ambassador to washington, we agreed that they would return to their service, — that they would return to their service, to their duties. tomorrow or the _ service, to their duties. tomorrow or the day— service, to their duties. tomorrow or the day after. this is pure technicality. or the day after. this is pure technicality-— technicality. one area where vladimir putin _ technicality. one area where vladimir putin did _ technicality. one area where vladimir putin did not - technicality. one area where vladimir putin did not arch l technicality. one area where vladimir putin did not arch ai vladimir putin did not arch a centimetre was on his opponent alexei navalny, the ox position for beer that mosque you has accord and extremist —— opposition figure that moscow considers an extreme it. he
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was poisoned last year, believed to be the job of the russian state. he was treated in germany and when he went back to russia, he was arrested and imprisoned. when he was asked about the alexei navalny issue, president putin should very firm indeed. ., , ., ., president putin should very firm indeed._ this l indeed. translation might this erson indeed. translation might this person knew _ indeed. translation might this person knew full _ indeed. translation might this person knew full well - indeed. translation might this person knew full well that - indeed. translation might this person knew full well that he l person knew full well that he violates _ person knew full well that he violates the law that existed in russia, — violates the law that existed in russia, and he had to understand that he _ russia, and he had to understand that he is— russia, and he had to understand that he is a — russia, and he had to understand that he is a person that is a repeated _ that he is a person that is a repeated offender. he deliberately violated _ repeated offender. he deliberately violated this law. he went abroad to seek medical treatment and once he went out— seek medical treatment and once he went out of— seek medical treatment and once he went out of hospital and boasted his videos _ went out of hospital and boasted his videos online —— posted his —— he ignored the requirement of the
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law and _ —— he ignored the requirement of the law and knew full well that he is wanted — law and knew full well that he is wanted. nevertheless, he came back to russia _ wanted. nevertheless, he came back to russia and deliberately wanted to be arrested. ,, ., ., , ., be arrested. strong words there from vladimir putin — be arrested. strong words there from vladimir putin about _ be arrested. strong words there from vladimir putin about alexei _ be arrested. strong words there from vladimir putin about alexei navalny. | vladimir putin about alexei navalny. we will wait to see howjoe biden describes that issue in his press conference, which is to begin shortly. we are waiting for the us president to begin that press conference. very interesting that they are holding solo press conferences. an attempt by the president to have a very different image to that of his predecessor, donald trump, who had a joint press conference with latimer putin in 2018 -- conference with latimer putin in 2018 —— vladimir putin. over the issue of russian election meddling. this is a clear desire byjoe biden to stand apart from vladimir putin and give his version of events. plenty to deconstruct. sarah
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rainsford is here with me. sarah, were you surprised by the tone of the press conference? wasn't more cordial than you expected? was there more experiments than you expected? certainly, the language chosen to use is extremely warm and pretty friendly. the language she was talking about, he was saying particularly that he sat face—to—face with joe particularly that he sat face—to—face withjoe biden for two hours and said he had two hours, and they had a huge amount to talk about. you can't have that with every world leader. i think they're trying to present as if there was a rapport between the two of them. joe biden talked about his family. so there was chitchat as well. with the separate press conferences, vladimir putin has gotten his version of events first, it appears to be a very positive one. i've been looking on twitter, people in the kremlin and other commentators are saying vladimir putin is shining. he's
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coming out of this looking bright, looking positive, looking externally happy. like president biden offered him something, we don't know what that is. he had answers for everything in terms of press conference and expect everything joe biden set as well.— biden set as well. putin said the two leaders _ biden set as well. putin said the two leaders spoke _ biden set as well. putin said the two leaders spoke the _ biden set as well. putin said the two leaders spoke the same - biden set as well. putin said the - two leaders spoke the same language, so there were clearly some areas where they agreed, but mr putin sounded bullish on issues such as cybersecurity. even accuse the us of launching cyber attacks on russia. they agreed to hold talks on cybersecurity. is it clear at all which way that could go if that progresses, if that could stop the attacks us a stuffer i think they speak at each other. this is a meeting where both letters agreed to many of things. i don't think we've got any sense that putin
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has seen the light and is going to behave differently. what he said was its not them that are threatening it's not them that are threatening stability in the world, that's the americans. he listed a whole bunch of things that he blamed on america and he said was making the world more unstable. he said we need a whole new system of rules to live by and we're ready. this is really putin sticking to his guns, very much having predicted the admits to us that that was a meeting he set out. ~ . us that that was a meeting he set out. . ., ., us that that was a meeting he set out. ~ ., ., us that that was a meeting he set out. ~ ., ,, ., out. what about those russian red fines? out. what about those russian red lines? we heard _ out. what about those russian red lines? we heard about _ out. what about those russian red lines? we heard about alexei - lines? we heard about alexei navalny. he accused ukraine of breaking the agreements on troops. doesn't look as though there's going to be any on trying to stop to ten's adventurism in the region? i
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to be any on trying to stop to ten's adventurism in the region?- adventurism in the region? i think one thing that _ adventurism in the region? i think one thing that came _ adventurism in the region? i think one thing that came across - adventurism in the region? i think one thing that came across to - adventurism in the region? i think one thing that came across to me | adventurism in the region? i think- one thing that came across to me was the suggestion that president putin perhaps now is not in the mood to escalate things. after some consideration, the kremlin agreed to the summit, please thatjoe biden chose to... the fact that these talks took place, i think the kremlin is in the mood to look for some kind of compromise. probably putin wanted to hear about what sanctions might wait him if he is to push any further on some of the american red lines if expansionism, adventurism by russia will continue. the suggestion is perhaps they didn't get a very tough message about that. we'll hear from president biden shortly, but as far as russia is concerned, perhaps because this is an election year, food —— putin senses more people are worried about their state of living than foreign policy, perhaps he will rail back on that a little bit for
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now at least. fundamentally, he has not changed. now at least. fundamentally, he has not changed-— not changed. thank you very much indeed. not changed. thank you very much indeed- that _ not changed. thank you very much indeed. that is _ not changed. thank you very much indeed. that is clearly _ not changed. thank you very much indeed. that is clearly how- not changed. thank you very much | indeed. that is clearly how vladimir putin has seen the last few hours of talks. we're now waiting to see whetherjoe biden agrees with him or disagrees with him and his version of the events. as we await that press conference by the us president. again, a solo audience. a solo appearance byjoe biden to decide to strike a very different image from that of donald trump, who held a joint press conferences with vladimir putin, in which one of his advisers said when donald trump sided with mr putin over the us intelligence community, she said she was so horrified that she pretended she thought of even faking a medical emergency to break up that press conference. that is clearly not what joe biden would want from any kind ofjoint appearance with vladimir putin, so a solo appearance that we are expecting from the us president,
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which we will bring to you live here on bbc news. more from us in the hours ahead, but for now, i'll hand you back to the studio.— you back to the studio. thanks so much again- _ you back to the studio. thanks so much again. we _ you back to the studio. thanks so much again. we will _ you back to the studio. thanks so much again. we will keep - you back to the studio. thanks so much again. we will keep our- you back to the studio. thanks so l much again. we will keep our eyes you back to the studio. thanks so - much again. we will keep our eyes on that news conference. i think it will happen in the next while, but let's bring in our chief international correspondent who's been here with me for the last couple of hours. lyce douset, your headline thoughts, what did you make of it? i headline thoughts, what did you make of it? ~ ., , headline thoughts, what did you make of it? ~' .,, .,, headline thoughts, what did you make of it? ~' of it? i think it was as good as it could get- _ of it? i think it was as good as it could get- no — of it? i think it was as good as it could get. no one _ of it? i think it was as good as it could get. no one expected - of it? i think it was as good as it | could get. no one expected there of it? i think it was as good as it - could get. no one expected there to be a major breakthrough, no significant agreements on really big issues affecting notjust russia and the us, but the international community. but in terms of putting in motion the establishment of a working relationship, that seems to have succeeded in spades. i think it's remarkable how positive president putin was. he seemed to be
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in a very good mood. ending up taking over the conference himself and taking more questions. he described it as being very constructive, very frank, very pragmatic. he had even personal praise for president biden, which was unexpected. he talked about how there is not every world leader that will talk for two hours one—to—one and all the major issues, he seldom sees and politician. he also remarked that he had spoken to his mother, so he spoke about his moral qualities as well. he rose to russian literature when one journalism said... he said there is not complete happiness, but you have glimpses. he had glimpses of confidence, he said twice. as we've been reporting, we weren't expecting the big breakfor there is, but what we thought could happen has happened. the exchange of investor as soon as possible. to talk about
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cyber attacks, negotiations over this, and he asked about the red lines. he said we talked about the red lines, but because of the nature of discussion, we couldn't get into the details. he threw it back to the united states, whether it was on opposition leader navalny or about ukraine or about the cyber attacks. it was like parallel worlds. it was all the fault of the us. all it was like parallel worlds. it was all the fault of the us.— it was like parallel worlds. it was all the fault of the us. all pick up on a coople _ all the fault of the us. all pick up on a coople of — all the fault of the us. all pick up on a couple of these _ all the fault of the us. all pick up on a couple of these points, - all the fault of the us. all pick up on a couple of these points, but i on a couple of these points, but this is the second photo call that we had before the start of the talks. it was slightly awkward in these moments because, of course, with the translators there but very little small talk between the two leaders at this stage. it was fascinating listening to vladimir putin as well as the observations you made. they were both defending interest of their countries, the
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dialogue was pragmatic. you got a sense of that in the detail, the answers given by vladimir putin. you talk about the constructive nature. ijust talk about the constructive nature. i just want to play a small clip from the news conference, just to illustrate that for any viewer that might missed that hours worth of comments from the russian leader. translation: as for the overall assessment, i believe — as for the overall assessment, i believe there's been no hostility. on the _ believe there's been no hostility. on the contrary, our meeting took place _ on the contrary, our meeting took place in _ on the contrary, our meeting took place in a — on the contrary, our meeting took place in a constructive spirit. indeed. _ place in a constructive spirit. indeed, we have assessments on a number— indeed, we have assessments on a number of— indeed, we have assessments on a number of issues, but both sides expressed — number of issues, but both sides expressed their intention to understand each other and to seek common— understand each other and to seek common ground. talks were quite constructive. the common ground. talks were quite constructive-—
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constructive. the talks were quite constructive. _ constructive. the talks were quite constructive, lyce, _ constructive. the talks were quite constructive, lyce, but _ constructive. the talks were quite constructive, lyce, but on - constructive. the talks were quite constructive, lyce, but on those l constructive. the talks were quite l constructive, lyce, but on those big blocks in terms of how you get russia to behave with international norms, there was very, very little progress even with a lex team navalny, the pushback was enormous. —— alexei navalny. what happened with the capital attacks, what happened with black lives matter, what happened with george floyd. lots of pushback when he was being asked about all these issues around human rights. asked about all these issues around human rights— asked about all these issues around human rights. that's why they are in arallel human rights. that's why they are in parallel universes. _ human rights. that's why they are in parallel universes. they _ human rights. that's why they are in parallel universes. they say - human rights. that's why they are in parallel universes. they say see - human rights. that's why they are in parallel universes. they say see the | parallel universes. they say see the world through a clearly different prism. we talked about how for not just presentjoe biden, but from the nato summit, from the g summit where he came from, it's all about rules —based order. as far as putin is concerned, if the united states which is breaking the rules. back to the question asked by steve roque berg. he wanted to talk about on
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predictive ability. —— steve rosenberg. so, a real sense there, at least till he sees the world. we'll wait and see what president biden has to say, but it was interesting because he was specifically asked was there any pressure put on you? because the russian people will want to know how the russian president stood up to this. he said there was no pressure, which raises the question about what was the strategy on the biden team, how they played it. president biden is known as somebody who speaks his mind, and how did he frame it? president putin said they discussed everything, and they even discussed that president biden has recently called him a killer, and he said president biden explained it and seemed to accept the explanation. that gives you an idea of how broad ranging the discussions were. that that gives you an idea of how broad ranging the discussions were. at one
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oint, he ranging the discussions were. at one point. he sort _ ranging the discussions were. at one point. he sort of _ ranging the discussions were. at one point, he sort of broadened - ranging the discussions were. at one point, he sort of broadened that - ranging the discussions were. at one point, he sort of broadened that to l point, he sort of broadened that to talk about american policy. about what was happening in america, what happening with drone attacks. certainly that phrase resonated and remembered by putin. {lari certainly that phrase resonated and remembered by putin.— certainly that phrase resonated and remembered by putin. of course, this is a veryjerkv — remembered by putin. of course, this is a veryjerkv world — remembered by putin. of course, this is a veryjerky world out _ remembered by putin. of course, this is a veryjerky world out there. - is a veryjerky world out there. world leaders part. i don't think... whatever you throw at me, i'm going to throw back at you, as you mention, he talked about the aftermath of what happened with george floyd, black lives matter, about people getting shot in the street. he depicted a world in the united states which was dangerous, unstable and where people's lives are at risk, the kind of world where president biden would have sketched for him happening in russia. there were many questions from the western media, journalist asking why could
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young people protest, questions about navalny, but again, you can see there was no give at all. these people were foreign agents, they were not allowed to operate in russia. alexei navalny had broken the law, deliberately wanted to be arrested. you can see what kind of pushback there would have been. in some ways, they found a way to talk to each other, but on some key issues, they talked past each other. they see the world in fundamentally different ways. find they see the world in fundamentally different ways— different ways. and it was interesting _ different ways. and it was interesting because - different ways. and it was l interesting because towards different ways. and it was - interesting because towards the tail of that conference, he was asked about sanctions and even from the conversations he's had withjoe biden, he couldn't quite work out where russia stands because he said it's hard to say if pro—russia or anti—russia policy in the us will actually prevail. we were talking about capitol hill. stay with me for that news conference expecting from joe biden. it's worth returning to those pictures because all the
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journalists are sitting there waiting. they've had that our with vladimir putin, and beautiful setting there in geneva. so, we are told one or two minutes from the president reaching him microphone. it gives a chance to bring in a former europe and nato chief of staff. as i say that, i'm told the president is actuallyjust to the side of the platform, so i won't bring in mark at this stage. all come back and talk to him after we've seen the american president. you see the american journalists and the otherjournalists rising to their feet. the otherjournalists rising to theirfeet. there is the president. let's hearjoe biden. their feet. there is the president. let's hearjoe biden.— let's hearjoe biden. there is no roblem let's hearjoe biden. there is no problem getting _ let's hearjoe biden. there is no problem getting to _ let's hearjoe biden. there is no problem getting to the - let's hearjoe biden. there is no problem getting to the doors, i let's hearjoe biden. there is no l problem getting to the doors, was there? anyway, hello, everyone. well, i'mjust
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there? anyway, hello, everyone. well, i'm just finishing the last meeting of this week's long trip. the us russian summit. i know there are a lot of hype around this meeting, but it's pretty straightforward to me, the meeting. one, there's no substitute, as many of you know, forface—to—face dialogue between leaders. president putin and i had a shared responsibility to manage the relationship between two powerful and proud countries. a relationship that has to be stable and predictable, and it should be able to cooperate where it's in our mutual interest. and where we have differences, i want president putin to understand why i say what i say and why i do what i do, and how i will respond to specific kinds of
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actions that harm american interests. now, itold president putin my agenda is not against russia or anyone else. it's for the american people. fighting covid—i9, rebuilding our economy, reestablishing relationships around the world, allies and friends, and protecting the american people. that's my responsibility as president. i also told him that no president. i also told him that no president of the united states could keep faith with the american people if they did not speak out to defend our democratic values, to stand up for the universal and fundamental freedoms of all men and women. that'sjust part of freedoms of all men and women. that's just part of the dna of our country, so human rights is going always be on the table, i told him. it's not aboutjust going after russia when they violate human rights. it's about who we are. how could i be the president of the united states of america and not
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speak out against the violation of human rights? i told speak out against the violation of human rights? itold him, and unlike under countries, including russia, you've heard me say this before again and again and i will keep saying it — what's that idea? we don't derive our rights from the government. we possess them because we're born. period. and we yield them to a government. so, the form i pointed out to him, that's why we will raise our concerns about cases like alexei navalny. i made it clear to president putin that we'll continue to raise issues of fundamental human rights. that's what we are, that's who we are. the idea is we hold these truths are self—evident, that all men and women. we always widen the ark of commitment and include more and more people. i raise the case of two
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wrongful imprisonment of american citizens. i raise the validity of of liberty to operate and importance of a free press and freedom of speech. i made it clear that we will not tolerate violation of our democratic sovereignty or stabilise our elections, and we would respond. the bottom line is i told president putin that we needed to have some basic rules that we can all abide by. i also said there are areas where there is mutual interest for us to cooperate. for our people, russian and american people, but also for the benefit of the world and the security of the world. one of those areas is strategic stability. you've asked me many times what i would discuss with food and before i came. i told you i would negotiate with the investigational —— with putin. that is to discuss and raise the issue of
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strategic stability and set up a mechanism to deal with it. we discussed in detail the next steps are countries are taking on arms control measures. the steps we need to take to reduce the risk of unintended conflict. i'm pleased he agreed today to launch a bilateral strategic stability dialogue. get our military experts and our diplomats together to work on a mechanism that can lead to the control of new and dangerous and sophisticated weapons coming on the scene now. they reduce the times of response, raise the prospect of axing a war, and we went into detail of what those were —— accidental war. another area we spent time on his cybersecurity. i talked about the proposition that certain infrastructure should be off—limits to attack, period. i gave them a
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list. 16 specific entities, i6 list. 16 specific entities, 16 defined as critical infrastructure under us policy. from the energy sector for the water system. of course, the principle is one thing. it has to be backed up by practice. responsible countries need to take action against criminals who conduct ransomware activities on their territory. so, we agreed the task of experts and both are countries to work on specific understandings about what's off—limits in the follow—up on specific cases. that originate in other countries. there is a long list of other things we spent time on, from the urgent need to preserve and reopen humanitarian corridors in syria so that we can get simple food and basic necessity. people are starving to death. how to
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build it and how it is in the interest of both russia and the united states to ensure that iran does not acquired nuclear weapons. we agreed to together. how we can ensure... ratherthan we agreed to together. how we can ensure... rather than conflict. we agreed to together. how we can ensure... ratherthan conflict. i caught part of president putin's press conference, and he talked about the need for us to be able to have some kind of where we dealt with making sure it was a free zone. and to how we can each contribute to the shared effort of presenting the resurgent of terrorism in afghanistan. it's very much in the interest of russia not to have a resurgence of terrorism in afghanistan. also areas more challenging. i communicated the
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united states's unwavering commitment to the territorial integrity of ukraine. we agreed to pursue to from lessee related to the minsk agreement. and i share your concern about belarus. he didn't disagree with what happened, but i know we have a lot of questions. let me close with this. it was important to meet in person so there can be no mistake or miss about what i wanted to communicate. i did when i came to do. number one, identifies areas of work are countries can do to amounts our mutual interest and benefit the world. two, communicate directly at the united states response to actions or those of allies. three, clearly lay out our country's priorities and values so we heard it
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straight from me. and i must tell you, the tone of the entire meeting - i you, the tone of the entire meeting — i guess four hours — was good, positive. there wasn't any strident action taken, where we disagreed, i disagreed. stated where it was. where he disagreed, he stated. but it was not done in a hyperbolic atmosphere. that is too much of what's been going on. over this last week, i believe, i hope the united states has shown the world that we are back, standing with our allies. we rallied our fellow democracies to make concert of commitments to take on the biggest challenges our world faces, and now, we've established a clear basis on how we intend to deal with russia and the us russia relationship. there's much more work ahead. i'm not suggesting this is
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done, but we've gotten a lot of business done. before i take your questions, i want to say one last thing. look, this is about how we move from here. this is... i listened to a significant portion of what president putin's conference was. as he pointed out, this is about practical, straightforward, no—nonsense decisions. that we have to make. we'll find out, within the next six months to a year, whether or not we have a dialogue that matters. we'll find out whether we work to deal with everything from release of people in russian prisons. we'll find out whether we have a cybersecurity arrangement that begins order. because, look, the countries that are most likely to be damaged are
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