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this is bbc news, i'm ben brown. the headlines... a public inquiry into the contaminated blood scandal hears how dozens of pupils at a school for disabled children died, after being given infected blood products to treat them for haemophilia. went round the room, said "who's positive?" "you have, you haven't, you have, you haven't, you have." and it was difficult, and... ..i was back in science by 1.50. doctors and nhs trusts have warned ministers that they need to start planning now, if they want to roll out a covid vaccine booster programme in the autumn. meanwhile, the prime minister says that it is "looking good"
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good afternoon and welcome to bbc news. it's been called the worst treatment disaster in the history of the nhs. the deaths of thousands of people who were given contaminated blood products. well, today, the public inquiry into that disaster will hear how students at a school in hampshire lost their lives, after being offered treatment for haemophilia in the 1970s and �*80s. the children at treloar�*s college, a school for disabled children, were given a drug contaminated with hiv and viral hepatitis. 72 of them died. our health correspondent jim reed reports. it was a huge, amazing place, beautiful. to come here as an eight—year—old,
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it gave freedom, total freedom. deep in the english countryside, treloar�*s is still a boarding school for children with physical disabilities. a0 years ago, it was home to boys with the blood disorder haemophilia. in the 1970s and �*80s, more than 120 young haemophiliacs were taught here. of that group, at least 72 lost their lives because of the blood treatments they were given. now a public inquiry is going to look in detail at what happened at the school in hampshire. half a century on, ade, richard and steve have returned here. as students, they were given a brand—new drug at the nhs centre on this site. freeze—dried concentrate was sold to us as a miracle, we were told, if you take this, you will be able to live a normal life, you will be able to play football, ride a bike. but we were never told the risks. in the 1980s, that drug, known as factor viii/ix, was often
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imported from the united states. some of the plasma used to make it was contaminated with hepatitis and later hiv. at just 15 years old, ade was part of a group of boys at the school taken aside and told he was hiv positive. a doctor went round the room and said whose positive. a doctor went round the room and said who was positive. "you have, you haven't, you have, you haven't, you have." and it was difficult and... ..and i was back in science by 1.50. i didn't even get the afternoon off. my friend went outside and literally went to the horticulture department, picked up a pot and threw it against the haemophilia centre wall. in 1983, hiv—aids was not just untreatable, those infected also had to deal with the stigma of the disease. alec macpherson was the head teacher at the time. now 86 years old, he has agreed to give evidence at the public inquiry this week.
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it caused them a lot of anxiety, a lot of upset, and it built a rage inside them against, you know, "why me, why has this happened to me, and why have i got this dreadful thing?" out of the 122 haemophiliacs who went to the school at the time, just 32 are known to be alive today. but when we come back to this wonderful school and... you know, we'vejust lost so many people. we all ask ourselves, "why me?" "why are we still here?" a series of hearings focused on the school are taking place this week as part of the wider inquiry into the use of infected blood products. former pupils and their families want to know if more could have been done to protect the young boys involved. jim reed, bbc news. we can speak tojim now. some harrowing stories there. for those who had not followed this
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contaminated blood scandal, let's go back to the beginning and talk about how this happened in the first place? its how this happened in the first lace? , ., . ., , how this happened in the first lace? , ., , ,.,, how this happened in the first lace? , ., , ,., , ., place? its quite a complex story and that's why the _ place? its quite a complex story and that's why the public _ place? its quite a complex story and that's why the public inquiry - place? its quite a complex story and that's why the public inquiry into - that's why the public inquiry into what happened has been going on for two years and will probably be going on another year. there are different strands. two main groups of people who were infected and affected by this. one was haemophiliacs, they were given as you heard, a blood treatment in the mid—late 70s it started coming in across the uk. cofactor eight orfax on started coming in across the uk. cofactor eight or fax on line, it allowed their blood to clot much more easily and it meant haemophilia became a treatable condition for the first time, severe haemophilia at least. then people realise over time, there was blood products were being imported from abroad, made from what is called condensed blood plasma so it only needed one person to have been infected with hepatitis or later on hiv out of many thousands of people whose blood
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would go to create this drug. that's why it could be so dangerous and so infectious. as a result, overall, we think at least 3000 haemophiliacs probable died in the uk, that's why the inquiry is going on at the moment. the second strand is people who might have had a blood transfusion after giving birth or after a car accident. it's much more difficult to know what went on but both are effectively a story of blood or blood products not being properly screened at the tail end of the 1970s and the early part of the 19805. the 1970s and the early part of the 1980s. to begin with it was a problem with hepatitis, then as aids, hiv became a problem, people were affected that way as well. the in . ui were affected that way as well. the inquiry focusing today on what happened at treloar�*s college, the school for children with disabilities in hampshire. we are hearing more evidence from one of the former pupils, we will cut to that when he appears. 72 pupils
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there who were treated died, some of them at a very young age? some extremely — them at a very young age? some extremely young. _ them at a very young age? some extremely young. that's - them at a very young age? some extremely young. that's one - them at a very young age? some extremely young. that's one of l them at a very young age? some l extremely young. that's one of the reasons perhaps this scandal, and it is called a scandal now, hasn't been given as much attention in the media as other things that have happened in the uk, because people did not necessarily die in one go. some people fell very sick many years later, especially with something like hepatitis c which can cause liver disease, liver cancer much later on in life, some of those boys will have been diagnosed with hiv at a very young age and passed away quickly, others, ade's brother died in 2015. it has taken a long time to realise just how serious this was. thanks very much. we will go live to the inquiry as soon as it starts to hear evidence from one of the former pupils at that school, gary webster.
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the inquiry is just pupils at that school, gary webster. the inquiry isjust beginning to get under way. asjim was telling us, this is an inquiry that has been running for a couple of years already and is expected to run for another year. already and is expected to run for anotheryear. let's already and is expected to run for another year. let's listen into the evidence. from gary webster, a former pupil at that school. treloar�*s college were 72 people who had been treated there lost their lives. ,, . had been treated there lost their lives. . . , ., , . had been treated there lost their lives. ,, ., , ., , ., ga lives. state your fully name. gary james webster. _ lives. state your fully name. gary james webster. take _ lives. state your fully name. gary james webster. take the - lives. state your fully name. gary james webster. take the book i lives. state your fully name. gary james webster. take the book in | lives. state your fully name. gary - james webster. take the book in your raised hand and _ james webster. take the book in your raised hand and repeat _ james webster. take the book in your raised hand and repeat after - james webster. take the book in your raised hand and repeat after me. - james webster. take the book in your raised hand and repeat after me. i - raised hand and repeat after me. i swear— raised hand and repeat after me. i swear by— raised hand and repeat after me. i swear by almighty god... swear by almighty— swear by almighty god... swear by almighty god... the evidence i shall givem _ almighty god... the evidence i shall givem the _ almighty god... the evidence i shall give... the evidence i shall give... shall— give... the evidence i shall give... shall be _ give... the evidence i shall give... shall be the — give... the evidence i shall give... shall be the truth of the whole truth and nothing shall be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. thanks.— the whole truth and nothing but the truth. thanks. gary. hello. the whole truth and nothing but the truth. thanks.- hello.- truth. thanks. gary. hello. you had severe haemophilia _ truth. thanks. gary. hello. you had severe haemophilia aand _ truth. thanks. gary. hello. you had severe haemophilia aand were - severe haemophilia aand were diagnosed about six months old?
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that's_ diagnosed about six months old? that's correct.— that's correct. initially, wherever ou that's correct. initially, wherever you treated? _ that's correct. initially, wherever you treated? initially _ that's correct. initially, wherever you treated? initially at - that's correct. initially, wherever you treated? initially at six - that's correct. initially, wherever l you treated? initially at six months old, i think — you treated? initially at six months old, i think it _ you treated? initially at six months old, i think it would _ you treated? initially at six months old, i think it would have _ you treated? initially at six months old, i think it would have been - old, i think it would have been lewisham hospital in kent. then my family moved down south to the area where i am now when i was about six orseven where i am now when i was about six or seven and then i would have come up or seven and then i would have come up to southampton, doctor leslie think it would have been.- up to southampton, doctor leslie think it would have been. before you went to treloar's _ think it would have been. before you went to treloar's college, _ think it would have been. before you went to treloar's college, do - think it would have been. before you went to treloar's college, do you - went to treloar's college, do you recall _ went to treloar's college, do you recall what — went to treloar's college, do you recall what treatment you would given? _ recall what treatment you would given? it — recall what treatment you would liven? ., ., , , ., recall what treatment you would .iven? ., ., , , ., ., given? it would have been kyo all the time. and _ given? it would have been kyo all the time. and could _ given? it would have been kyo all the time. and could you - given? it would have been kyo all the time. and could you tell- given? it would have been kyo all the time. and could you tell us i the time. and could you tell us about the _ the time. and could you tell us about the pattern _ the time. and could you tell us about the pattern of _ the time. and could you tell us about the pattern of your - the time. and could you tell us i about the pattern of your bleeds? from _ about the pattern of your bleeds? from memory, my father was driving me to southampton hospital once a week, once a fortnight and i would go and see doctor lesley in the path lab and be there for five or six
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hours having treatment. you lab and be there for five or six hours having treatment. you went up to the school— hours having treatment. you went up to the school in _ hours having treatment. you went up to the school in 1975, _ hours having treatment. you went up to the school in 1975, starting - hours having treatment. you went up to the school in 1975, starting when l to the school in 1975, starting when you are _ to the school in 1975, starting when you are about age ten. how did that come _ you are about age ten. how did that come about? how did your parents end ”p come about? how did your parents end up applying _ come about? how did your parents end up applying to the school? | come about? how did your parents end up applying to the school? ijust up applying to the school? i 'ust missed so — up applying to the school? i 'ust missed so much i up applying to the school? i 'ust missed so much school�* up applying to the school? i 'ust missed so much school i i up applying to the school? ijust missed so much school i was - up applying to the school? ijust missed so much school i was of| up applying to the school? idlsif missed so much school i was of all the time, got a bit of bullying, and i had a lot of problems with my knees. so it wasjust i had a lot of problems with my knees. so it was just decided that the best way forward was to go to treloar's college so i went there just as i was ten.— treloar's college so i went there just as i was ten. when you say it was decided. _ just as i was ten. when you say it was decided, do _ just as i was ten. when you say it was decided, do you _ just as i was ten. when you say it was decided, do you remember. just as i was ten. when you say it i was decided, do you remember who made _ was decided, do you remember who made those — was decided, do you remember who made those decisions and have your parents _ made those decisions and have your parents talked about that? not reall , i parents talked about that? not really. i know _ parents talked about that? not really, i know it _ parents talked about that? iirrt really, i know it was through the local authority, really, i know it was through the localauthority, i really, i know it was through the local authority, i have learned that since and my parent said it was because your education or because
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you can do education there while being ill so, bleeding, so that was the reason and i believe there is a form somewhere where my dad i think probably filled it in.— probably filled it in. when you first arrived, _ probably filled it in. when you first arrived, could _ probably filled it in. when you first arrived, could you - probably filled it in. when you first arrived, could you tell - probably filled it in. when you first arrived, could you tell us| first arrived, could you tell us something of your first impressions? just this_ something of your first impressions? just this massive place. it was in holly born, so i would have been one of the first haemophiliacs that went. there was about ten or 12 boys with varying disabilities but florence treloar's college was a girl school. i stayed florence treloar's college was a girl school. istayed in florence treloar's college was a girl school. i stayed in the hostel for the first year. and then moved up for the first year. and then moved up and spent the next three or four years and then moved back down which was the upper school because it had
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gone coed. in was the upper school because it had one coed. . was the upper school because it had one coed. , ., i. ., , gone coed. in terms of your memory of treloar's — gone coed. in terms of your memory of treloar's in _ gone coed. in terms of your memory of treloar's in the _ gone coed. in terms of your memory of treloar's in the early _ gone coed. in terms of your memory of treloar's in the early days, - gone coed. in terms of your memory of treloar's in the early days, the - of treloar's in the early days, the education — of treloar's in the early days, the education and social life, what can you tell— education and social life, what can you tell us — education and social life, what can you tell us about what it was like as a people? it you tell us about what it was like as a maple?— you tell us about what it was like as a people? it was great. it was a marvellous — as a people? it was great. it was a marvellous place. _ as a people? it was great. it was a marvellous place. obviously - as a people? it was great. it was a marvellous place. obviously i - as a people? it was great. it was a l marvellous place. obviously i didn't know anything about what i know now what it was great. education, it was just like a normal education classrooms, you have to do prep in the evening afterwards. and then the social life was good. because you were with people with haemophilia so you helped each other and things like that and you got on with other disabilities as well. honestly, it was a great time. and i think we all enjoyed it, but there you go. you have said that _ enjoyed it, but there you go. you have said that initially you recall being _ have said that initially you recall being treated by doctor kirk and
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doctor— being treated by doctor kirk and doctor raynsford.— being treated by doctor kirk and doctor raynsford. doctor raynsford, es. later doctor raynsford. doctor raynsford, yes- later gone _ doctor raynsford. doctor raynsford, yes- later gone by — doctor raynsford. doctor raynsford, yes. later gone by two _ doctor raynsford. doctor raynsford, yes. later gone by two other - yes. later gone by two other doctors? _ yes. later gone by two other doctors? that's _ yes. later gone by two other doctors? that's right. - yes. later gone by two other doctors? that's right. i- yes. later gone by two other doctors? that's right. i will. yes. later gone by two other i doctors? that's right. i will put some of your _ doctors? that's right. i will put some of your records - doctors? that's right. i will put some of your records from - doctors? that's right. i will put - some of your records from treloar's to look— some of your records from treloar's to look at— some of your records from treloar's to look at the treatment you received _ to look at the treatment you received when you were there. if we could _ received when you were there. if we could have _ received when you were there. if we could have the first please. we can see the _ could have the first please. we can see the autumn term in 1975 that throughout that time, when you had a bleed. _ throughout that time, when you had a bleed. you _ throughout that time, when you had a bleed, you were given cryoprecipitate?- bleed, you were given - cryoprecipitate?- and bleed, you were given cryoprecipitate? yes. and we can see that it is cryoprecipitate? and we can see that it is about cryoprecipitate? jazz and we can see that it is about three or cryoprecipitate? 123 and we can see that it is about three or four bleeds— that it is about three or four bleeds a _ that it is about three or four bleeds a month?— that it is about three or four bleeds a month? ., ., , ., bleeds a month? that would be about
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rirht. if we bleeds a month? that would be about right. if we look _ bleeds a month? that would be about right. if we look down _ bleeds a month? that would be about right. if we look down to _ bleeds a month? that would be about right. if we look down to easter - right. if we look down to easter term of 1976, — right. if we look down to easter term of 1976, we _ right. if we look down to easter term of 1976, we can _ right. if we look down to easter term of 1976, we can see - right. if we look down to easter term of 1976, we can see three | term of1976, we can see three bleads— term of 1976, we can see three bleeds are _ term of 1976, we can see three bleeds are recorded. one treated with cryoprecipitate and the next two treated with haemophilia. does that seem _ two treated with haemophilia. does that seem about the right timing of the changeover from cryoprecipitate? yes, the changeover from cryoprecipitate? yes. i_ the changeover from cryoprecipitate? yes. i can— the changeover from cryoprecipitate? yes, i can having it when i first went to college, but it got less and less and the more we were given concentrate. they told us, i remember them telling us about it. they said it's a new wonderful treatment, don't get me wrong, it was good, it worked, it enabled us to have a fairly active life, far
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better and it was quicker as well, to do. but they gradually phased it out. ~ ., to do. but they gradually phased it out. . . ., , ., to do. but they gradually phased it out. . ., , ., out. when that transition happened, to hemofil as _ out. when that transition happened, to hemofil as we _ out. when that transition happened, to hemofil as we can _ out. when that transition happened, to hemofil as we can see _ out. when that transition happened, to hemofil as we can see here, - out. when that transition happened, to hemofil as we can see here, can l to hemofil as we can see here, can you tell— to hemofil as we can see here, can you tell us — to hemofil as we can see here, can you tell us any more about what you were told _ you tell us any more about what you were told about it?— were told about it? nothing. other than it was a _ were told about it? nothing. other than it was a great... _ were told about it? nothing. other than it was a great... drug - were told about it? nothing. other than it was a great... drug and - were told about it? nothing. other than it was a great... drug and it l than it was a great... drug and it would help improve, it was quicker than cryoprecipitate. probably then i would not even have been able to tell you what it was called. i was 11 or 12 years old. there was no explanation that you get now or anything like that. theyjust said you are having this and i had it. do ou you are having this and i had it. do you if your parents were told anything _ you if your parents were told anything about the change? no, definitely not. _ anything about the change? no, definitely not. from _ anything about the change? no, definitely not. from other- anything about the change? no, i definitely not. from other records, we can see — definitely not. from other records, we can see that — definitely not. from other records, we can see that you _ definitely not. from other records, we can see that you will _ definitely not. from other records, we can see that you will also - we can see that you will also previously treated doctor
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chisholm, . . .— previously treated doctor chisholm,... , ., em chisholm,... yes, southampton. did he see anything _ chisholm,... yes, southampton. did he see anything when _ chisholm,... yes, southampton. did he see anything when you _ chisholm,... yes, southampton. did he see anything when you went - chisholm,... yes, southampton. did he see anything when you went backj he see anything when you went back to your— he see anything when you went back to your home centre in the holidays? not really. _ to your home centre in the holidays? not really. i— to your home centre in the holidays? not really, i can't actually remember much about while i was on holiday actually going to see them. i must have done. but nothing sticks in my memory. she always gave me cryoprecipitate and doctor lesley always gave me cryo—. presumably she just followed what i had been given at treloar's. i don't even know if she would have made the decision on what decision i, what treatment i had, maybe she did but i don't know, i'm sorry. had, maybe she did but i don't know, i'm sor . ., , , ., i'm sorry. could be 'ust turn to .ae. i'm sorry. could be 'ust turn to -aer 57 i'm sorry. could be 'ust turn to page 57 within _ i'm sorry. could be 'ust turn to page 57 within the h i'm sorry. could be just turn to page 57 within the same - i'm sorry. could be just turn to - page 57 within the same document? if we can— page 57 within the same document? if we can turn— page 57 within the same document? if we can turn it around... we can see
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at this— we can turn it around... we can see at this point— we can turn it around... we can see at this point that there is the column, _ at this point that there is the column, material given, cryoprecipitate and then the remarks colunin, _ cryoprecipitate and then the remarks colunin, it _ cryoprecipitate and then the remarks column, it seems that is sick bay college — column, it seems that is sick bay college. what is your recollection of where — college. what is your recollection of where you received treatment in those _ of where you received treatment in those early — of where you received treatment in those early days when you're at the college? _ those early days when you're at the colleie? ' 3, those early days when you're at the colleie? ' g, ., those early days when you're at the colleie? ' :: , ., ., college? 90% of the time it would have been at _ college? 90% of the time it would have been at the _ college? 90% of the time it would have been at the college - college? 90% of the time it would have been at the college or - college? 90% of the time it would have been at the college or in - college? 90% of the time it would have been at the college or in the | have been at the college or in the sick bay. nowhere else. i presume that stands for sick pay, it must do. is that stands for sick pay, it must do. . ., that stands for sick pay, it must do. , . , ., that stands for sick pay, it must do. , ., .., ., do. is that your recollection that cryoprecipitate _ do. is that your recollection that cryoprecipitate was _ do. is that your recollection that cryoprecipitate was given - do. is that your recollection that cryoprecipitate was given to - do. is that your recollection that cryoprecipitate was given to you | do. is that your recollection that l cryoprecipitate was given to you in the sick— cryoprecipitate was given to you in the sick bay?— cryoprecipitate was given to you in the sick bay? yes, or it could have been at the _ the sick bay? yes, or it could have been at the hospital. _ the sick bay? yes, or it could have been at the hospital. 1975? - the sick bay? yes, or it could have been at the hospital. 1975? we - the sick bay? yes, or it could have l been at the hospital. 1975? we were probably, i probably had a bleed and then were taken from florence treloar's to the hospital and
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transfused with cryoprecipitate under sister park but that was only for a fairly short couple of years, i would have thought. that for a fairly short couple of years, i would have thought.— for a fairly short couple of years, i would have thought. that is what i wast ini i would have thought. that is what i was trying to _ i would have thought. that is what i was trying to understand, _ i would have thought. that is what i was trying to understand, whether. was trying to understand, whether there _ was trying to understand, whether there was— was trying to understand, whether there was any treatment given in the sick bay— there was any treatment given in the sick bay of— there was any treatment given in the sick bay of the college. not there was any treatment given in the sick bay of the college.— sick bay of the college. not at 7051 wouldn't have _ sick bay of the college. not at 7051 wouldn't have thought. _ sick bay of the college. not at 7051 wouldn't have thought. i _ sick bay of the college. not at 7051 wouldn't have thought. i can't - wouldn't have thought. i can't remember what we would have been in a van. . ., ' . a van. there is a difference in the timini a van. there is a difference in the timing which _ a van. there is a difference in the timing which either _ a van. there is a difference in the timing which either deplete - a van. there is a difference in the timing which either deplete or - a van. there is a difference in the | timing which either deplete or the material— timing which either deplete or the material was _ timing which either deplete or the material was given? _ timing which either deplete or the material was given? both - timing which either deplete or the material was given? both are - timing which either deplete or the material was given? both are in. timing which either deplete or the i material was given? both are in the evening _ material was given? both are in the evening 6pm, _ material was given? both are in the evening. 6pm, 9pm _ material was given? both are in the evening. 6pm, 9pm. that- material was given? both are in the evening. 6pm, 9pm.— material was given? both are in the evening. 6pm, 9pm. that must have been in the — evening. 6pm, 9pm. that must have been in the college, _ evening. 6pm, 9pm. that must have been in the college, i _ evening. 6pm, 9pm. that must have been in the college, i was _ evening. 6pm, 9pm. that must have been in the college, i was probably l been in the college, i was probably obviously not allowed to go back to the house and, i must have been put in sick bay. the bleed, i'm not sure why i would have been put in sick bay for a hand bleed. maybe there
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were... it's difficult to remember, maybe... i did have cryo in sick bay. at that time, they probably could have mixed it up there, i suppose. could have mixed it up there, i su ose. ., ., �* could have mixed it up there, i suppose-— could have mixed it up there, i suuose. ., ., �* ~ suppose. you don't sound like you have any actual — suppose. you don't sound like you have any actual recollection. - have any actual recollection. piecing — have any actual recollection. piecing together. _ have any actual recollection. piecing together. i— have any actual recollection. piecing together.— have any actual recollection. piecing together. i don't. we definitely _ piecing together. i don't. we definitely had _ piecing together. i don't. we definitely had cryo _ piecing together. i don't. we definitely had cryo at - piecing together. i don't. we l definitely had cryo at treloar's piecing together. i don't. we - definitely had cryo at treloar's at the hospital at that time. i honestly can't remember. you can't remember — honestly can't remember. you can't remember any _ honestly can't remember. you can't remember any difference _ honestly can't remember. you can't remember any difference of - remember any difference of treatment. _ remember any difference of treatment, difference - remember any difference of treatment, difference of. remember any difference of - treatment, difference of location? it treatment, difference of location? it would _ treatment, difference of location? it would have _ treatment, difference of location? it would have been _ treatment, difference of location? it would have been at _ treatment, difference of location? it would have been at the - treatment, difference of location? it would have been at the hospitalj it would have been at the hospital or at the college. i would have thought if i had cryo it would have beenin thought if i had cryo it would have been in the mornings at hospital and that's why you point out about in the evening that would have been, i can't believe i was... unless... i can't believe i was... unless... i can't believe i was... unless... i can't believe i was at the hospital
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that time of night. i think it must have been in sick bay.— that time of night. i think it must have been in sick bay. that time of night. i think it must - have been in sick bay._ we have been in sick bay. thank you. we see something _ have been in sick bay. thank you. we see something similar— have been in sick bay. thank you. we see something similar in _ have been in sick bay. thank you. we see something similar in 1977 - have been in sick bay. thank you. we see something similar in 1977 and - have been in sick bay. thank you. we see something similar in 1977 and if l see something similar in 1977 and if you cannot — see something similar in 1977 and if you cannot remember, don't worry, 'ust you cannot remember, don't worry, just to _ you cannot remember, don't worry, just to see — you cannot remember, don't worry, just to see if— you cannot remember, don't worry, just to see if it jogs a you cannot remember, don't worry, just to see if itjogs a memory you cannot remember, don't worry, just to see if it jogs a memory for you _ just to see if it jogs a memory for you page — just to see if it jogs a memory for you. page 63 of the same document, please _ you. page 63 of the same document, please. january 1977 and the second entry— please. january 1977 and the second entry down— please. january 1977 and the second entry down we can see 22nd of january— entry down we can see 22nd of january 1977, cryo. the fourth entry and fifth _ january 1977, cryo. the fourth entry and fifth entry in february 1977, cryo _ and fifth entry in february 1977, cryo sp— and fifth entry in february 1977, cryo sp college. i and fifth entry in february 1977, cryo sp college.— and fifth entry in february 1977, cryo sp college. i would have had c o cryo sp college. i would have had c 0 at cryo sp college. i would have had cryo at the _ cryo sp college. i would have had cryo at the college, _ cryo sp college. i would have had cryo at the college, must - cryo sp college. i would have had cryo at the college, must have i cryo sp college. i would have had i cryo at the college, must have been. in terms of the products that you
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received — in terms of the products that you received i— in terms of the products that you received. i want to have a look at the record. — received. i want to have a look at the record, what the records suggest that you _ the record, what the records suggest that you receive. if we could go to page _ that you receive. if we could go to page seven — that you receive. if we could go to page seven of the same document. again, _ page seven of the same document. again, we — page seven of the same document. again, we are in 1977. we can see here_ again, we are in 1977. we can see here in— again, we are in 1977. we can see here inthe— again, we are in 1977. we can see here in the autumn term, a series of entries— here in the autumn term, a series of entries of— here in the autumn term, a series of entries of the — here in the autumn term, a series of entries of the treatment that you received — also cryoprecipitate at the end. do you have _ also cryoprecipitate at the end. do you have any recollection of any discussion— you have any recollection of any discussion about the different products that you received? no, none at all. we products that you received? no, none at all- we just — products that you received? no, none at all. we just went _ products that you received? no, none at all. we just went to _ products that you received? no, none at all. we just went to a _ products that you received? no, none at all. we just went to a room, i products that you received? no, none at all. we just went to a room, 90% l at all. we just went to a room, 90% of the time it would have been drawn
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up of the time it would have been drawn up in a machine and, if we were slightly older, we learned how to do it ourselves, we would probably have done it ourselves on that machine you saw this morning on the film. no, theyjust said we will give you this or we will give you that and there was no can we or we are changing it or anything like that. nothing at all. just changing it or anything like that. nothing at all.— changing it or anything like that. nothini at all. , , ., ., nothing at all. just before you move on from that. _ nothing at all. just before you move on from that, if— nothing at all. just before you move on from that, if we _ nothing at all. just before you move on from that, if we look— nothing at all. just before you move on from that, if we look at _ nothing at all. just before you move on from that, if we look at the i on from that, if we look at the batch — on from that, if we look at the batch numbers, _ on from that, if we look at the batch numbers, there - on from that, if we look at the batch numbers, there are i on from that, if we look at the i batch numbers, there are some occasions — batch numbers, there are some occasions where, _ batch numbers, there are some occasions where, i— batch numbers, there are some occasions where, i presume i batch numbers, there are some . occasions where, i presume there batch numbers, there are some i occasions where, i presume there is batch _ occasions where, i presume there is batch numbers— occasions where, i presume there is batch numbers first _ occasions where, i presume there is batch numbers first of _ occasions where, i presume there is batch numbers first of all, _ occasions where, i presume there is batch numbers first of all, that i batch numbers first of all, that your— batch numbers first of all, that your understanding? _ batch numbers first of all, that your understanding?— batch numbers first of all, that your understanding? they appear to be. there are two numbers next to some entries _ there are two numbers next to some entries lt _ there are two numbers next to some entries it might— there are two numbers next to some entries. it might have _ there are two numbers next to some entries. it might have been - there are two numbers next to some entries. it might have been all- there are two numbers next to some entries. it might have been all of- entries. it might have been all of one product. _ entries. it might have been all of one product, but— entries. it might have been all of one product, but the _ entries. it might have been all of one product, but the next-
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entries. it might have been all of one product, but the next time, i entries. it might have been all of. one product, but the next time, you see it _ one product, but the next time, you see it featuring _ one product, but the next time, you see it featuring again, _ one product, but the next time, you see it featuring again, you - one product, but the next time, you see it featuring again, you see - one product, but the next time, you see it featuring again, you see the l see it featuring again, you see the second _ see it featuring again, you see the second number— see it featuring again, you see the second number featuring - see it featuring again, you see the second number featuring and i see it featuring again, you see the second number featuring and that| second number featuring and that features _ second number featuring and that features later _ second number featuring and that features later on _ second number featuring and that features later on and _ second number featuring and that features later on and again - second number featuring and that features later on and again in- features later on and again in october— features later on and again in october 77~ _ features later on and again in october 77. there _ features later on and again in october 77. there is - features later on and again in october 77. there is a - features later on and again inl october 77. there is a mixture features later on and again in- october 77. there is a mixture again there _ october 77. there is a mixture again there of— october 77. there is a mixture again there of two— october 77. there is a mixture again there of two different _ october 77. there is a mixture again there of two different numbers. i there of two different numbers. absolutely _ there of two different numbers. absolutely ls— there of two different numbers. absolutely-— there of two different numbers. absolutel . , , ., ., absolutely. is the implication from that, that if _ absolutely. is the implication from that, that if the _ absolutely. is the implication from that, that if the administrator i that, that if the administrator found — that, that if the administrator found it — that, that if the administrator found it more _ that, that if the administrator found it more convenient i that, that if the administrator found it more convenient or. that, that if the administrator- found it more convenient or wanted to, they— found it more convenient or wanted to, they simply— found it more convenient or wanted to, they simply mixed _ found it more convenient or wanted to, they simply mixed up— found it more convenient or wanted to, they simply mixed up the - found it more convenient or wanted to, they simply mixed up the batch| to, they simply mixed up the batch is? �* . to, they simply mixed up the batch is? �* , . . , to, they simply mixed up the batch is? �* , . ., , ., . to, they simply mixed up the batch is? . . is? it's certainly an inference you could draw— is? it's certainly an inference you could draw from _ is? it's certainly an inference you could draw from the _ is? it's certainly an inference you could draw from the records i is? it's certainly an inference you could draw from the records we | is? it's certainly an inference you i could draw from the records we have that multiple batches of the same product _ that multiple batches of the same product where used and it's not appear, — product where used and it's not appear, it — product where used and it's not appear, it may be something you can conclude _ appear, it may be something you can conclude that there was no batch dedication in the way that we have seen _ dedication in the way that we have seen in _ dedication in the way that we have seen in other centres. it dedication in the way that we have seen in other centres.— seen in other centres. it would be contrary to _ seen in other centres. it would be contrary to the — seen in other centres. it would be contrary to the idea _ seen in other centres. it would be contrary to the idea of _ seen in other centres. it would be contrary to the idea of preserving | seen in other centres. it would be l contrary to the idea of preserving a specific— contrary to the idea of preserving a specific batch — contrary to the idea of preserving a specific batch for— contrary to the idea of preserving a specific batch for a _ contrary to the idea of preserving a specific batch for a particular- specific batch for a particular patient _ specific batch for a particular -atient. . specific batch for a particular -atient. , ., �* , patient. yes, indeed. that's something _ patient. yes, indeed. that's something we _ patient. yes, indeed. that's something we see - patient. yes, indeed. that's. something we see throughout patient. yes, indeed. that's- something we see throughout the
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records _ something we see throughout the records and we will see as we go through— records and we will see as we go through the evidence this afternoon. before _ through the evidence this afternoon. before we _ through the evidence this afternoon. before we leave 1977, gary, could we turn to _ before we leave 1977, gary, could we turn to page — before we leave 1977, gary, could we turn to page 67 of the same document please _ turn to page 67 of the same document please. there is an entry, the date is not _ please. there is an entry, the date is not entirely clear, i think it is the 30th— is not entirely clear, i think it is the 30th of— is not entirely clear, i think it is the 30th of september, 1977 in the middle _ the 30th of september, 1977 in the middle of— the 30th of september, 1977 in the middle of the page. we can see and entry— middle of the page. we can see and entry at— middle of the page. we can see and entry at 11am in relation to your right— entry at 11am in relation to your right ankle _ entry at 11am in relation to your right ankle and it says lister, opened — right ankle and it says lister, opened trial, closed. do you know anything _ opened trial, closed. do you know anything about that being involved or receiving treatment to a lister trial? _ or receiving treatment to a lister trial? .,
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and then... sorry... i havejust lost— and then... sorry... i havejust lost my— and then... sorry... i havejust lost my page _ and then... sorry... i havejust lost my page reference, if i can have _ lost my page reference, if i can have a — lost my page reference, if i can have a moment. yes. could we go back to page 64, please? _ yes. could we go back to page 64, please? no, i'm sorry that's not quite _ please? no, i'm sorry that's not quite the — please? no, i'm sorry that's not quite the right page. my page numbers are out of order. apologies, pa-e numbers are out of order. apologies, page seven — numbers are out of order. apologies, page seven. we come onto the spring
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term of— page seven. we come onto the spring term of 1978, at the bottom of the page. _ term of 1978, at the bottom of the page. and — term of 1978, at the bottom of the page, and we can see here that in the spring — page, and we can see here that in the spring term of 78 there is cryoprecipitate given to you, hemofil, _ cryoprecipitate given to you, hemofil, lister, hemofil. we can see that factor— hemofil, lister, hemofil. we can see that factor eight was also given to you at— that factor eight was also given to you at that point. and again in relation — you at that point. and again in relation to— you at that point. and again in relation to both 2nd of february, and the — relation to both 2nd of february, and the 3rd of march, there appear to be _ and the 3rd of march, there appear to be two— and the 3rd of march, there appear to be two different batch numbers in relation _ to be two different batch numbers in relation to _ to be two different batch numbers in relation to hemofil gavin. —— given. ican— relation to hemofil gavin. —— given. i can only— relation to hemofil gavin. —— given. i can only imagine that each bottle had different amounts of units in it or something, so it was a different batch. if i was going to have a 20 or 30% rise, then obviously that was the closest they could get to my weight ratio i suppose.—
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the closest they could get to my weight ratio i suppose. when the -roducts weight ratio i suppose. when the products were — weight ratio i suppose. when the products were being _ weight ratio i suppose. when the products were being prepared, . weight ratio i suppose. when the i products were being prepared, were you aware _ products were being prepared, were you aware that they were mixing different — you aware that they were mixing different products? was anything going _ different products? was anything going on... different products? was anything going on- - -_ different products? was anything ttoinon... ., ., ,., going on... no, not untilwe started -robabl going on... no, not untilwe started probably doing _ going on... no, not untilwe started probably doing it — going on... no, not untilwe started probably doing it ourselves. - going on... no, not untilwe started probably doing it ourselves. i i probably doing it ourselves. i probably doing it ourselves. i probably learned when i was about 12 or 13. probably learned when i was about 12 or13. probably probably learned when i was about 12 or 13. probably around this time. we just put the water in the bottles and put them on the machine. i don't think at that time we actually failed in the forms, i can't quite remember —— field in the forms. it wasjust normal. we remember —— field in the forms. it was just normal. we didn't really, i certainly didn't really take much notice of the different batches. could we have the next piece please. pa-e could we have the next piece please.
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page 13. _ could we have the next piece please. page 13. if— could we have the next piece please. page 13. if we look at the entry dated _ page 13. if we look at the entry dated the — page 13. if we look at the entry dated the 12th of november 1978, on the right—hand side of the page, next _ the right—hand side of the page, next to— the right—hand side of the page, next to the stamped table, we can see there — next to the stamped table, we can see there that there is a trial dose. — see there that there is a trial dose, grade one. and then at the bottom _ dose, grade one. and then at the bottom of— dose, grade one. and then at the bottom of the page in relation to the 16th — bottom of the page in relation to the 16th of november, again, we can see in— the 16th of november, again, we can see in capitals trial.— the 16th of november, again, we can see in capitals trial.- it - see in capitals trial. yeah. it mitht see in capitals trial. yeah. it might appear _ see in capitals trial. yeah. it might appear that _ see in capitals trial. yeah. it might appear that again i see in capitals trial. yeah. it. might appear that again there see in capitals trial. yeah. it i might appear that again there was some _ might appear that again there was some form of trial in relation to the concentrates you were receiving. where _ the concentrates you were receiving. where you _ the concentrates you were receiving. where you aware of anything of that sort? _ where you aware of anything of that sort? ., . ., if where you aware of anything of that sort?_ if we _ where you aware of anything of that sort?_ if we move - where you aware of anything of that sort?_ if we move on i where you aware of anything of that sort?_ if we move on in i sort? not at all. if we move on in time to 1979, — sort? not at all. if we move on in
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time to 1979, could _ sort? not at all. if we move on in time to 1979, could | _ sort? not at all. if we move on in time to 1979, could i have - sort? not at all. if we move on in time to 1979, could i have the i sort? not at all. if we move on in. time to 1979, could i have the next document, — time to 1979, could i have the next document, please? page 13. at the bottom _ document, please? page 13. at the bottom of— document, please? page 13. at the bottom of the page there are two entries _ bottom of the page there are two entries, the 27th of march 1979 and the 29th— entries, the 27th of march 1979 and the 29th of— entries, the 27th of march 1979 and the 29th of march, 1979. we see what appears _ the 29th of march, 1979. we see what appears from your records to be the first reference to prophylaxis. just before _ first reference to prophylaxis. just before that, you had had a bleed on the 23rd _ before that, you had had a bleed on the 23rd of— before that, you had had a bleed on the 23rd of march. what do you recall— the 23rd of march. what do you recall about full access initially? in recall about full access initially? in those — recall about full access initially? in those early days of 1979? ——
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prophylaxis. i was put on it, probably twice weekly, presumably to stop me having regular bleeds because at that time i was having a lot of... regular bleeds because at that time i was having a lot of. . .— i was having a lot of... well, we're 'ust i was having a lot of... well, we're just going — i was having a lot of... well, we're just going to _ i was having a lot of. .. well, we're just going to pull— i was having a lot of... well, we're just going to pull away _ i was having a lot of... well, we're just going to pull away from i i was having a lot of... well, we're just going to pull away from a i i was having a lot of... well, we're just going to pull away from a few| just going to pull away from a few minutes from that evidence at the contaminated blood enquiry and that was my gary webster we have been listening to who was talking about his time at lord mayor college in hampshire where 72 people who had been peoples there subsequently died after being given contaminated blood products to treat them and he was talking about it was a marvellous place, it was a great education, a very normal school, but then when they were given the infected blood products, infected with hepatitis and hiv, at the time, there was no explanation about what they were being given, they werejust explanation about what they were being given, they were just told you are having this, he said, and you had it. wejust went
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are having this, he said, and you had it. we just went into a are having this, he said, and you had it. wejust went into a room are having this, he said, and you had it. we just went into a room and there was no can we, so that is gary webster. we will be back with him a little bit later on as he continues to give evidence at the infected blood enquiry. hello this is bbc news with me, ben brown. a look at our latest news headlines... a public inquiry into the contaminated blood scandal hears how dozens of pupils at a school for disabled children died after being given infected blood products to treat them for haemophilia. went round the room and said "who's positive?" "you have, you haven't, you have, you haven't, you have..." and it was difficult, and, um... ..i was back in science by ten to two. doctors and nhs trusts have warned ministers that they need to start planning now if they want to roll out a covid vaccine booster programme in the autumn.
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meanwhile, the prime minister says that it is "looking good" for the lifting of restrictions in england to go ahead onjuly 19th. scotland midfielder billy gilmour tests positive for covid and will miss the euro 2020 match with croatia tomorrow. sport now, and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre. good afternoon. lets get some, as you say, on that billy gilmour story. a blow for scotland at the european championship — ahead of their final group game against croatia. midfielder billy gilmour will miss the match — after testing postive for covid. it's a must—win match tomorrow, to have hope of making the knockouts. former scotland winger pat nevin says the losing gilmour will mean the squad have to adapt. he actually was pretty special.
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scotland play in a very different way, much more confidently when he is on the pitch. let's hope he is ok stop, positive but no illness, that is more important than anything else. scotland fans will be thinking, they will have to rejig it again, maybe put mctominay back into midfield. in the past that wasn't very successful. it was a real blow. if billy gilmour is out now, you have to think, who has he been mixing with? will we get news that he has been mixing close by others? it is not good news for scotland. england have released a statement confirming all 26 players and the wider support team returned negative results after the latest round of testing on sunday. they've been training this morning, ahead of tomorrow night's game against the czech republic at wembley. england are second in the table, on four points and just behind the czechs on goal difference. they'll certainly be looking for more intensity than they showed
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in the goalless draw with scotland. wales have a few days before their next game, after they made it through to the last 16. they play on saturday in amsterdam and they'll find out tonight who they'll be up against. they lost 1—0 to italy in theirfinal group game in rome but that, as well as their previous results, meant they still took second place, finishing above switzerland on goal difference. it means wales will face the runners up of group b — who play their final matches this evening. john rahm insists he believed in his 'sunday mojo' to take him to victory at the us open — his first major win. he finished a shot clear of the field at torrey pines, which is where he won his first pga title in 2017. the victory also means he returns to the top of the world rankings. i've got close before, and ijust knew on sunday, the way i had been playing on a sunday in the last few majors, ijust had to be close, and i knew i could get it done. i am keeping the good
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sunday mojo going. i mean, i got it done in the fashion that could only happen to me at torrey pines. up to 10,000 spectators will be allowed at each venue for the tokyo olympics, which start injust over a month's time. organisers have set the limit at 50% capacity and the same will apply to the paralympics. ticket—holders will be required to wear masks and they'll be asked to refrain from shouting, but they won't have to show evidence of a negative coronavirus test. further restrictions will be considered if the situation surrounding the pandemic changes. british cyclist mark cavendish will return to the tour de france for the first time since 2018 this weekend. he's been named in the eight man squad for deceuninck-quickstep — after irishman sam bennett was ruled out through injury. this year's race begins on saturday. friday s super league game between hull kr and st helens has been postponed, after three move rovers players tested positive for covid—19 over the weekend. that follows two cases last week, and nine others have been forced to self—isolate. training has been postponed until wednesday, when another round of pcr testing will be carried out.
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it's the fourth fixture to be lost to the pandemic this season. that's all the sport for now but there's website more on all those stories on the bbc sport website. doctors and nhs trusts have warned ministers that they need to start planning now if they want to roll out a covid vaccine booster programme in the autumn. they want to know whether the vaccines need to be tweaked because of new covid variants, and whether to combine them with flu jabs. the health secretary matt hancock has said that plans will be set out in the next few weeks. it comes as the prime minister borisjohnson says the data is still "looking good" to end covid restrictions in england on the 19th ofjuly. on foreign travel, he says he is "looking at" an exemption from quarantine for people who have had both doses of a covid jab — but warned it will be a difficult
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year for trips abroad, and that the "emphasis is going to be on making sure we can protect the country from the virus coming back in". he went on to confirm that cases of the delta variant are rising at a rate of about 30% a week with hospitalisations and intensive care admissions "roughly the same". meanwhile, england's young adults continue to respond to the call to get a vaccine, with more than a million appointments made over the weekend. so far, nearly 60% of uk adults have had two jabs of the vaccine, meaning they are fully vaccinated. and more than four in five adults have had their first dose. i'm joined now byjeremy brown, professor of respiratory infection at university college london and member of thejoint committee on vaccination and immunisation. thank you very much a being with us, jeremy. first of all, do we need a boosterjab later in the year, thing? booster 'ab later in the year, thin ? . . ., booster 'ab later in the year, thin? . ., booster 'ab later in the year, thin? .,, ., , thing? welcome to be honest, we don't really _ thing? welcome to be honest, we don't really know— thing? welcome to be honest, we don't really know the _ thing? welcome to be honest, we don't really know the moment. i thing? welcome to be honest, we i don't really know the moment. what the two issues are we need to know how quickly the immune response to
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the two doses of the vaccine wins or weakens over time and we need to know at what level when it gets down to that immune response, what level means that people become at risk of getting severe infection again. that information isn't that clear at this point, although there are data coming through over the next few weeks to clarify that.— coming through over the next few weeks to clarify that. might we know whether we do _ weeks to clarify that. might we know whether we do need _ weeks to clarify that. might we know whether we do need a _ weeks to clarify that. might we know whether we do need a booster i weeks to clarify that. might we know whether we do need a booster and i whether we do need a booster and whether we do need a booster and whether we do need a booster and whether we need to start making plans to give posters? it is whether we need to start making plans to give posters?— plans to give posters? it is under discussion. _ plans to give posters? it is under discussion, essentially. - plans to give posters? it is under discussion, essentially. i- plans to give posters? it is under discussion, essentially. ithink. plans to give posters? it is under. discussion, essentially. ithink the discussion, essentially. i think the practical aspects are that you're right, people need to know a reasonable time in advance of the cumberland to actually deliver the vaccine booster so we do need to make a decision in the nearfuture. —— people do need to know a reasonable time advance so they can plan to deliver. ieihfitlt reasonable time advance so they can plan to deliver-— plan to deliver. with the booster vaccine be _ plan to deliver. with the booster vaccine be the _ plan to deliver. with the booster vaccine be the same _ plan to deliver. with the booster vaccine be the same as - plan to deliver. with the booster vaccine be the same as your i plan to deliver. with the boosteri vaccine be the same as your first two vaccinations? if it was astrazeneca would you have to have a third astrazeneca? could you mix it up? could you have a fighter if you
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have had to astrazeneca jab is? —— a pfizerjab. hide have had to astrazeneca 'ab is? -- a pfizer 'ab. ~ ., have had to astrazeneca 'ab is? -- a pfizer 'ab. . . . , ., pfizer 'ab. we are currently having data pfizerjab. we are currently having data coming _ pfizerjab. we are currently having data coming through _ pfizerjab. we are currently having data coming through from - pfizerjab. we are currently having data coming through from trials i data coming through from trials where of mixing of the vaccines to tell us whether that will make a difference of the immune response to how hard it is to get side effects in the short term and that information will come through and give us a bit more clarity about whether you get the same vaccine again whether you are a different dose. �* a, , a, dose. and the other question eo - le's dose. and the other question people's mines _ dose. and the other question people's mines is _ dose. and the other question people's mines is maybe - dose. and the other question people's mines is maybe we | dose. and the other question - people's mines is maybe we could haveit people's mines is maybe we could have it at the same time as the flu jab for people who need the flu jab are wonderfullyjab. there is a lot of talk about flu could bounce back this year, so they will be a need to give flu jabs. maybe you could have the booster clone of virus jab in one arm and the flu jab and the other? one arm and the flu 'ab and the other? , , a, one arm and the flu 'ab and the other? , , i, c, one arm and the flu 'ab and the other? , , c, c, i,, i, , , other? oh, yes, and that obviously makes a lot — other? oh, yes, and that obviously makes a lot of— other? oh, yes, and that obviously makes a lot of practical— other? oh, yes, and that obviously makes a lot of practical sense - other? oh, yes, and that obviously makes a lot of practical sense in i makes a lot of practical sense in the same sort of people who are at risk of severe flu end general are at risk of severe covid—safe those elderly people who have got pre—existing other diseases
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affecting heart and lungs and kidneys etc so that would make sense to combine the two if we need to re—vaccinate for covid that early, because, bear in mind, we vaccinate for flu that would be in the winter period between october and december and that might be a bit early because of the covid vaccinations may not have waned enough for it to be necessary to be vaccinated at that point for the covid vaccine. the other question people's minds is whether if you are double vaccinated that should mean you don't have to self—isolate or prevent enough to travel. what is your view on that? this is really a jcb travel. what is your view on that? this is really ajcb i think travel. what is your view on that? this is really a jcb i think that i think the point about double vaccinations and the chance of catching disease is very much reduced. it is not completely zero, so you still could catch disease. i think there is still some sense in that if you are double vaccinated and travelling to a low this country that will allow you to avoid the quarantine when you come back. —— low risk country. i think it is different if you go to a country
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where there is a lot of virus transmitting because you could get infection of the other variants, not the delta because we had that already but something downstream of that which again could cause problems and sol that which again could cause problems and so i would worry about it if you are travelling to a country with high incidence of infection and a lot of people get encoded but less so if you're going to somewhere which is relatively quiet from the covid point of view and the population has been vaccinated which, basically, makes you a lot of people get encoded but less so if you're going to somewhere which is relatively quiet from the covid point of view and the population has been vaccinated which, basically, makes you potentially say.— which, basically, makes you potentially say. which, basically, makes you otentiall sa ., , �* ., potentially say. jeremy browne, good to talk to yom — potentially say. jeremy browne, good to talk to you. thank _ potentially say. jeremy browne, good to talk to you. thank you _ potentially say. jeremy browne, good to talk to you. thank you very - potentially say. jeremy browne, good to talk to you. thank you very much l to talk to you. thank you very much indeed, professor of respiratory infection at ucl. thank you. organisers of the kendal calling musical festival in cumrbria have blamed the government's "complete absence of any guidance�* for their decision to cancel the event for the second year in a row. the festival had been due to take place at the end ofjuly — after cancelling last year due to the pandemic let's speak now to one of the organisers of
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the festival, andy smith... andy, thank you very much indeed for them with us. so, it was going to be at the end ofjuly and that is theoretically after all restrictions in england are lifted, according to the prime minister's road map. freedom day may be delayed but that is when it is going to be achieved he could have gone ahead with it, couldn't you? in he could have gone ahead with it, couldn't you?— he could have gone ahead with it, couldn't you? in many ways, that is what makes — couldn't you? in many ways, that is what makes it _ couldn't you? in many ways, that is what makes it so _ couldn't you? in many ways, that is what makes it so infuriated. - couldn't you? in many ways, that is what makes it so infuriated. it - couldn't you? in many ways, that is what makes it so infuriated. it may| what makes it so infuriated. it may be that technically it can go ahead but if you can't get the guidance for the event we would need to open the doors and that was really why we had to pull the plug at this point. you know, we couldn't have built the festival and then find out potentially hours or days before the event that the camping density has to be hard and therefore we need to find an extra 308 acres of camping space and perhaps there were limits on capacity are made to... you just talk about tokyo olympics there and then use that 50% capacity, that would work for us. you
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then use that 50% capacity, that would work for us.— then use that 50% capacity, that would work for us. you were looking for some detailed _ would work for us. you were looking for some detailed guidance - would work for us. you were looking for some detailed guidance on - would work for us. you were looking for some detailed guidance on the i for some detailed guidance on the government and you didn't get it, is that light? government and you didn't get it, is that liht? ~ y government and you didn't get it, is thatliuht? ~ , . government and you didn't get it, is thatliuht? ~ , ~ that light? absolutely. when monday when there was _ that light? absolutely. when monday when there was a _ that light? absolutely. when monday when there was a delay _ that light? absolutely. when monday when there was a delay in _ that light? absolutely. when monday when there was a delay in the - when there was a delay in the freedom day that that is a issue but the government told us it is due to due to wanting to get more jabs and arms. that makes sense, we can see that data coming through every day and we have got confidence in that. but there was also a delay, initially, of guidance, which is fundamentally what tripped us up. have you been trying to get the guidance in ringing up and getting anything given on here? the guidance in ringing up and getting anything given on here?— anything given on here? the life industry as— anything given on here? the life industry as a _ anything given on here? the life industry as a whole _ anything given on here? the life industry as a whole has - anything given on here? the life industry as a whole has been. i anything given on here? the life i industry as a whole has been. they have been meetings and the government has said it didn't fit with a communications plan. right, 0k. let with a communications plan. right, 0k- let me — with a communications plan. right, 0k- let me just _ with a communications plan. right, 0k. let me just tell— with a communications plan. right, 0k. let me just tell you _ with a communications plan. right, 0k. let me just tell you what - with a communications plan. right, 0k. let me just tell you what the l ok. let me just tell you what the department for digital, culture media and sport are saying. they are saying we are working flat out to support festivals and live events and we have given £30 million to organisers from the culture recovery fund and also saying they are aware
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of wider concerns about insurance and indemnity and of exploring what further support may be required. 50 they say they are doing what they can. they say they are doing what they can. ,, ., ., they say they are doing what they can. ., , ., . ., can. so, on the insurance point of view they have — can. so, on the insurance point of view they have been _ can. so, on the insurance point of view they have been looking - can. so, on the insurance point of view they have been looking into l can. so, on the insurance point of| view they have been looking into it and notice the need and other parts have called for that insurance to come through. they are still working it is not there yet. it is there other european countries and why isn't it in the uk? big question. secondly, they have been distributing an amount of money. very large chunk of that is still and distributed to this day. thirdly, kendal calling has not received a penny of that. indeed, my parent's ice cream shot has got way more support than kendal calling which supports the employment of 5000 people when it is up and running on the weekend of the event. you know, we have not had any support so it is all very well and good that they have had this sporadic distribution of relief but i know a lot of the players who are
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going to the wall. —— suppliers who are going to the wall. this going to the wall. -- suppliers who are going to the wall.— are going to the wall. this must be heartbreaking _ are going to the wall. this must be heartbreaking for _ are going to the wall. this must be heartbreaking for you _ are going to the wall. this must be heartbreaking for you but - are going to the wall. this must be heartbreaking for you but also - are going to the wall. this must be heartbreaking for you but also for i heartbreaking for you but also for the 25,000 people who were going to be there. ., the 25,000 people who were going to be there. . , ., ., be there. reading the social media toda it is be there. reading the social media today it is heartbreaking. - be there. reading the social media today it is heartbreaking. a - be there. reading the social media today it is heartbreaking. a lot - be there. reading the social media today it is heartbreaking. a lot of l today it is heartbreaking. a lot of people have been looking forward to this so long. we have all through lockdown and this is something that has been a light at the end of the term of the loss of people. it is notjust term of the loss of people. it is not just about fun, it has term of the loss of people. it is notjust about fun, it has got a deeper meaning than that. —— this has been a light at the end of tunnel for a lot of people. it has been heartbreaking for fans, musicians and workers. this year, the reasons have had to cancel make me quite angry, i'll be honest. i think this has come across. very quiet and go but anger nonetheless. andy smith, thank you very much a being with us. the headlines on bbc news... a public inquiry into
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the contaminated blood scandal hears how dozens of pupils at a school for disabled children died — after being given infected blood products to treat them for haemophilia. doctors and nhs trusts have warned ministers that they need to start planning now if they want to roll out a covid vaccine booster programme in the autumn. scotland midfielder billy gilmour tests positive for covid — and will miss the euro 2020 match with croatia tomorrow as you heard earlier, more than a million people in england booked covid jabs on friday and saturday, after the nhs opened its vaccination programme to all adults. in december, 91—year—old margaret keenan became the first person in the world to receive a vaccine outside clinical trials. she's urged others to get a jab, and is still friends with the nurse who administered hers. they've both been talking to the bbc�*s dan walker.
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at the time, did it feel as momentous and important as it probably does now? it momentous and important as it probably does now?— momentous and important as it probably does now? it did. it did feel very important _ probably does now? it did. it did feel very important to _ probably does now? it did. it did feel very important to have - probably does now? it did. it did feel very important to have it i probably does now? it did. it did i feel very important to have it done. you're quite famous now.— feel very important to have it done. you're quite famous now. people were ha - for you're quite famous now. people were happy for me. — you're quite famous now. people were happy for me. you _ you're quite famous now. people were happy for me, you know. _ you're quite famous now. people were happy for me, you know. you - you're quite famous now. people were happy for me, you know. you have - you're quite famous now. people were happy for me, you know. you have got this, ou happy for me, you know. you have got this. you know. _ happy for me, you know. you have got this, you know, this _ happy for me, you know. you have got this, you know, this beautiful- happy for me, you know. you have got this, you know, this beautiful bond i this, you know, this beautiful bond now which is not only between you two but i suppose between everybody watch that day, as well. that two but i suppose between everybody watch that day, as well.— watch that day, as well. that is true. watch that day, as well. that is true- yes. _ watch that day, as well. that is true. yes, and _ watch that day, as well. that is true. yes, and it _ watch that day, as well. that is true. yes, and it is _ watch that day, as well. that is true. yes, and it is nice - watch that day, as well. that is | true. yes, and it is nice because watch that day, as well. that is i true. yes, and it is nice because i think we are _ true. yes, and it is nice because i think we are a — true. yes, and it is nice because i think we are a family _ true. yes, and it is nice because i think we are a family now - true. yes, and it is nice because i think we are a family now so - true. yes, and it is nice because i think we are a family now so we | true. yes, and it is nice because i i think we are a family now so we had bonded _ think we are a family now so we had bonded with— think we are a family now so we had bonded with that one. and i think sometimes it is really nice. the lecture — sometimes it is really nice. the lecture and _ sometimes it is really nice. the lecture and for me. it was —— the lecture _ lecture and for me. it was —— the lecture unfunny. it lecture and for me. it was -- the lecture unfunny.— lecture unfunny. it was a private moment that —
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lecture unfunny. it was a private moment that happened - lecture unfunny. it was a private moment that happened in - lecture unfunny. it was a private moment that happened in a - lecture unfunny. it was a private. moment that happened in a room lecture unfunny. it was a private - moment that happened in a room in this hospital was also something that millions of people watching tv and ifair to that millions of people watching tv and i fair to say it gave hope to millions of people as well. this is the whole meaning _ millions of people as well. this is the whole meaning which - millions of people as well. this is the whole meaning which i - millions of people as well. this is the whole meaning which i said i the whole meaning which i said thousand times over. i hope that it has had this wonderful injection offered to them. that has had this wonderful in'ection offered to themfi has had this wonderful in'ection offered to them. . ., , ,., offered to them. that was something monumental — offered to them. that was something monumental for _ offered to them. that was something monumental for me _ offered to them. that was something monumental for me and _ offered to them. that was something monumental for me and my - offered to them. that was something monumental for me and my career. monumental for me and my career because _ monumental for me and my career because i— monumental for me and my career because i have never been in the limelight— because i have never been in the limelight and i think it is really, really— limelight and i think it is really, really big — limelight and i think it is really, really big responsibility for me for my site _ really big responsibility for me for my site that was at the nurses, doctors. — my site that was at the nurses, doctors, health care workers that work _ doctors, health care workers that work in _ doctors, health care workers that work in the — doctors, health care workers that work in the nhs that do a lot of great _ work in the nhs that do a lot of great things that we don't kind of normally— great things that we don't kind of normally shout about. in great things that we don't kind of normally shout about.— great things that we don't kind of normally shout about. in terms of the international _ normally shout about. in terms of the international interest - normally shout about. in terms of the international interest after i the international interest after thatjob back in december, what has thatjob back in december, what has that been like for both of you? to talk about that? i that been like for both of you? to talk about that?— that been like for both of you? to talk about that? i had a letter from somebody in _ talk about that? i had a letter from somebody in what _ talk about that? i had a letter from somebody in what she _ talk about that? i had a letter from somebody in what she had - talk about that? i had a letter from somebody in what she had written | talk about that? i had a letter from i somebody in what she had written at the bottom of the letter was what a courageous lady and that was it. and i thought, well, you know, courageous lady and that was it. and ithought, well, you know, she thought that i have done something really good, but i didn'tjust do it for me. i did it for everybody around me.
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for me. i did it for everybody around me— for me. i did it for everybody around me. ., ~ ., around me. both of you will know there will be _ around me. both of you will know there will be people _ around me. both of you will know there will be people watching - around me. both of you will knowj there will be people watching this thinking that is great but i don't have a job. you have a message for them who might be saying this. filth. them who might be saying this. 0h, es, es, them who might be saying this. oh, yes. yes. yes- _ them who might be saying this. on yes, yes, yes. whatever them who might be saying this. qt yes, yes, yes. whatever you felt before, please do have the jab. there is nothing to it. don't be afraid of a needlejust there is nothing to it. don't be afraid of a needle just to save your life and to save other lives. please haveit life and to save other lives. please have it done. life and to save other lives. please have it done-— have it done. people that we are caettin in have it done. people that we are getting in the — have it done. people that we are getting in the hospital _ have it done. people that we are getting in the hospital recently i have it done. people that we are i getting in the hospital recently who are hospitalised are not vaccinated and i_ are hospitalised are not vaccinated and i think— are hospitalised are not vaccinated and i think we need to be able to tell those — and i think we need to be able to tell those people that are deciding otherwise to kind of consider what they are _ otherwise to kind of consider what they are kind of taking on and their positions — they are kind of taking on and their positions i— they are kind of taking on and their ositions. �* ., , they are kind of taking on and their ositions. �* . , ., , ., positions. i didn't realise that you are a bit of— positions. i didn't realise that you are a bit of an _ positions. i didn't realise that you are a bit of an nhs _ positions. i didn't realise that you are a bit of an nhs penne - positions. i didn't realise that you | are a bit of an nhs penne because thatis are a bit of an nhs penne because that is right that you were one of the first people to get the bcg jab for tv back in the 19505 as well. they picked me out of nowhere! there must be something about me. hate they picked me out of nowhere! there must be something about me.- must be something about me. we are 91 now still going _ must be something about me. we are 91 now still going strong. _ must be something about me. we are 91 now still going strong. your - 91 now still going strong. your
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plans? i 91 now still going strong. your lans? ., �* , ., ., plans? i don't plan to find in the future, plans? i don't plan to find in the future. dan- _ plans? i don't plan to find in the future, dan. not— plans? i don't plan to find in the future, dan. not that _ plans? i don't plan to find in the future, dan. not that i - plans? i don't plan to find in the future, dan. not that i want - plans? i don't plan to find in the future, dan. not that i want to l plans? i don't plan to find in the l future, dan. not that i want to do next year or anything. ijust future, dan. not that i want to do next year or anything. i just take it as it comes and enjoy every day, really. it as it comes and en'oy every day, reall . ., , it as it comes and en'oy every day, reall . . , ,._ it as it comes and en'oy every day, reall. . , , ., really. can i 'ust say it has been a really. can ijust say it has been a real pleasure _ really. can ijust say it has been a real pleasure to _ really. can ijust say it has been a real pleasure to speak _ really. can ijust say it has been a real pleasure to speak to - really. can ijust say it has been a real pleasure to speak to you - really. can ijust say it has been a | real pleasure to speak to you both. i remember watching you and everybody in the united kingdom and around the world and to sit here and talk tuna today few months on end to see boating so well is fantastic. thank you, it has been a pleasure. it is my pleasure. it has been a pleasure. it is my pleasure. let's cross to the infected blood inquiry which is hearing evidence from gary webster, who was a pupil at treloar's college. that was a school for disabled children in hampshire where pupils were given contaminated medication
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and 72 of them subsequently died. let's listen to what he had to say. we went in the room and he said, i got some bad news. you are positive for htlv—3 got some bad news. you are positive for htlv-3 hiv. and that got some bad news. you are positive for htlv—3 hiv. and that was it, really. he said we don't know a lot about it. and the outlook is not good, we can't guarantee that you would be, sort of, live in a couple of years and that was it really. we just stood and looked at each other and, i don't know, whether we are in this shock and i think we probably laughed at each other. it was just a shock. and that was it. it is all a bit vague now but, yeah. and whether i had left college it was just after
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i had left college it was just after i left college because even though i left college i went back to that couege left college i went back to that college because i was local and that other person stayed with me a lot of the time and we visited friends around the area so we were always together for two or three years after we left so i think that is probably why we were asked together but i can't honestly remember when, although i did start work that year. and that must have been, sort of, october 1983. and i do remember telling the manager is this about this. but when it was, when i first started, whether it was a few months, six months after, i don't know, but yeah, theyjust said we don't know a lot about it and we'll don't know a lot about it and we'll do all we can. and, yeah, that was it, really. do all we can. and, yeah, that was it, reall . ., , ., .,
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it, really. so, other you have laced it, really. so, other you have placed it _ it, really. so, other you have placed it in — it, really. so, other you have placed it in your _ it, really. so, other you have placed it in your statement i it, really. so, other you have| placed it in your statement in it, really. so, other you have - placed it in your statement in 1983 it could well have been... it placed it in your statement in 1983 it could well have been. . .- it could well have been... it could have been — it could well have been... it could have been a _ it could well have been... it could have been a bit _ it could well have been... it could have been a bit later _ it could well have been... it could have been a bit later but - it could well have been... it could have been a bit later but it - have been a bit later but it certainly wasn't years and years later, you know. it may have been the following year in 1984, maybe, but i honestly don't know. hate the following year in 1984, maybe, but i honestly don't know. we asking about a long — but i honestly don't know. we asking about a long time _ but i honestly don't know. we asking about a long time ago. _ but i honestly don't know. we asking about a long time ago. so _ but i honestly don't know. we asking about a long time ago. so is - but i honestly don't know. we asking about a long time ago. so isjust - but i honestly don't know. we asking about a long time ago. so isjust so i about a long time ago. so is just so that we are clear at the recollection of the date may not be quite right but what you do the call is being told by the doctors and then being able to give you very limited information. in terms of your parents, had they been given any prior warning? what did they know? ~ , any prior warning? what did they know? ~ _ , any prior warning? what did they know? ~ , , �* any prior warning? what did they know? . , �* ~ ., know? well, i say they didn't know an hina. know? well, i say they didn't know anything- my _ know? well, i say they didn't know anything- my dad _ know? well, i say they didn't know anything. my dad obviously - know? well, i say they didn't know anything. my dad obviously did - know? well, i say they didn't know i anything. my dad obviously did know something, whether it was from the press, because i think there was a lost out in the press at the beginning of 83 so he may have picked something up there because he tells me that he rang doctor... and
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said, look, i'm hearing about all this hiv, aids, can you tell me if gary has got it all what the situation is? and the doctor refused to tell him. and the only thing we can think of that he refused to tell him was because i would have been 18 in the march, so maybe that was a reason. so, no, they didn't know. he refused to say anything so they were none the wiser. so, i told them my next leaf weekend or... you know, after that phone call, after i had been told. and they were sitting on the front room and ijust said, you know, something to tell you. lltlul’hat know, something to tell you. what was the reaction? _ know, something to tell you. what was the reaction? upset, - know, something to tell you. what was the reaction? upset, shocked. yeah. was the reaction? upset, shocked. yeah- having _ was the reaction? upset, shocked. yeah. having gone _ was the reaction? upset, shocked. yeah. having gone through, - was the reaction? upset, shocked. yeah. having gone through, your. yeah. having gone through, your records, yeah. having gone through, your records. you _
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yeah. having gone through, your records, you have _ yeah. having gone through, your records, you have not _ yeah. having gone through, your records, you have not been - yeah. having gone through, your records, you have not been able | yeah. having gone through, your. records, you have not been able to identify anything in your records where the htlv—3 diagnosis, hit hiv diagnosis is specifically made but we do have some information with relation to timing. please show. this is a letterfrom april 1995. it is from the doctor but in the last paragraph it states that he seroconverted to hiv antibody positive sometime between april 1983 and october 1984. in december 1990 he was started on fluconazole to treat... if we look at another
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document. please. unfortunately, it is only one page of the lessor and the second page isn't available to us but if you look at the bottom of the page —— one page of the letter. the last paragraph says that you were diagnosed as having aids because of this oesophageal candidosis on december 1990. so it would seem that perhaps of the retrospective testing... studio: we willjust leave the infected blood enquiry once again. gary webster giving evidence about how having been told having given those contaminated blood products he tested positive for hepatitis and hiv and he was told that he could come at the medical staff there couldn't guarantee that he would be alive in two years time. he was a pupil at treloar's college in
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hampshire for children with disabilities and at 89 children who went to that school in the 19805 less than a quarter are still alive. money is coming up for in the of the hour. set more news coming up fee. now it's time for a look at the weather with nick miller. light rain and drizzle pushing south of northern england but the most persistent rain suddenly sitting across southern england and parts of east anglia on food rationing, heavy ability, very quite cool and north—easterly breeze make it feel cooler sale and still some outbreaks of rain this evening and night becoming confined to south—east england by the end of the night. elsewhere tonight, dry or becoming dry, clear spells and temperatures dipping away. in fact, in scotland so of the highland spots here may just get close to freezing for a touch of frost into tomorrow morning but with some sunshine to start the
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day. many of us, tomorrow will be dry with sunny spells. any light rain and drizzle slowly clearing from south—east england as it brightens up a touch of a cloud increasing in north—west scotland and into northern ireland and we will see some outbreaks of rain moving on here is the day goes by. by moving on here is the day goes by. by by.
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this is bbc news. the headlines... a public inquiry into the contaminated blood scandal hears how dozens of pupils at a school for disabled children died, after being given infected blood products to treat them for haemophilia. i was 11 or 12 years old, there was no explanation that you get now or anything like that. you just said, right, you are having this and i had it. doctors and nhs trusts have warned ministers that they need to start planning now, if they want to roll out a covid vaccine booster programme in the autumn. meanwhile, the prime minister says that it is "looking good" for the lifting of restrictions in england to go ahead onjuly19th. nicola sturgeon accuses the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, of playing politics in a row over
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a scottish government ban on travel to salford and manchester. if he wants a grown—up conversation, he only has to pick up the phone, but if, as i suspect might be this is about generating a spat with me over a labour leadership contest of the future, i'm not interested. scotland midfielder billy gilmour tests positive for covid and will miss the euro 2020 match with croatia tomorrow and the first person in the world to get a covid jab outside of trials, 91—year—old margaret keenan, speaks to the bbc. whatever you said, i've said before, please do have the jab, there's nothing to it, don't be afraid of a needle just to save your life and to save other�*s lives.
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good afternoon and welcome to bbc news. it's been called the worst treatment disaster in the history of the nhs. the deaths of thousands of people who were given contaminated blood products. well, today, the public inquiry into that disaster has begun hearing how students at a school in hampshire lost their lives, after being offered treatment for haemophilia in the 19705 and '805. the children at treloar's college, a school for disabled children, were given a drug contaminated with hiv and viral hepatitis. 72 of them died. the first of the former students to give evidence before the inquiry have appeared today. our health correspondent jim reed reports. it was a huge, amazing place, beautiful. to come here as an eight—year—old, it gave freedom, total freedom. deep in the english countryside, treloar's is still a boarding school for children
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with physical disabilities. 40 years ago, it was home to boys with the blood disorder haemophilia. in the 19705 and '805, more than 120 young haemophiliacs were taught here. of that group, at least 72 lost their lives because of the blood treatments they were given. now a public inquiry is going to look in detail at what happened at this school in hampshire. half a century on, ade, richard and steve have returned here. as students, they were given a brand—new drug at the nhs centre on this site. freeze—dried concentrate was sold to us as a miracle, we were told, if you take this, you will be able to live a normal life, you will be able to play football, ride a bike. but we were never told the risks. in the 19805, that drug, known as factor viii/ix, was often imported from the united states. some of the plasma used to make it was contaminated
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with hepatitis and later hiv. at just 15 years old, ade was part of a group of boys at the school taken aside and told he was hiv positive. quite cheerfully, a doctor went round the room and said who's positive. "you have, you haven't, you have, you haven't, you have." and it was difficult and... ..and i was back in science by 1.50. i didn't even get the afternoon off. my friend went outside and literally went to the horticulture department, picked up a pot and threw it against the haemophilia centre wall. in 1983, hiv—aids was not just untreatable, those infected also had to deal with the stigma of the disease. alec macpherson was the head teacher at the time. now 86 years old, he has agreed to give evidence at the public inquiry this week. it caused them a lot of anxiety, a lot of upset, and it built a rage
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inside them against, you know, "why me, why has this happened to me, and why have i got this dreadful thing?" of the 122 haemophiliacs who went to this school at the time, just 32 are known to be alive today. but when we come back to this wonderful school and... you know, we'vejust lost so many people. we all ask ourselves, "why me?" "why are we still here?" a series of hearings focused on the school are taking place this week, as part of the wider inquiry into the use of infected blood products. into the use of infected former pupils and their families want to know if more could have been done to protect the young boys involved. jim reed, bbc news. we can speak tojim now. some harrowing stories there. some harrowing evidence right now in the inquiry? hate
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some harrowing evidence right now in the inuui ?~ ., some harrowing evidence right now in the inuui ? ~ . ., . the inquiry? we have heard evidence from a man — the inquiry? we have heard evidence from a man called _ the inquiry? we have heard evidence from a man called gary _ the inquiry? we have heard evidence from a man called gary webster, - the inquiry? we have heard evidence from a man called gary webster, a i from a man called gary webster, a pupil at the school, like some of the menu just heard from. are people in the late 705 and early 805. in 1983, he tested positive for hiv and later for hepatitis c and you heard from his testimony, he was talking about how he was told by doctors they could not guarantee that he would be alive injust they could not guarantee that he would be alive in just a few years time. as a 17—year—old, obviously the impact of that mr bean horrific. he was asked about how much —— must have been horrific. he was asked how much he had his parents were told about the risks and impact it might have. i about the risks and impact it might have. ., , , ., �* , have. i honestly don't remember havin: have. i honestly don't remember having any _ have. i honestly don't remember having any information _ have. i honestly don't remember having any information about - have. i honestly don't remember i having any information about going on trials. _ having any information about going on trials, research or anything like that _ on trials, research or anything like that my— on trials, research or anything like that. my parents were never informed of any— that. my parents were never informed of any of— that. my parents were never informed of any of it. _ that. my parents were never informed of any of it, except for that one occasion— of any of it, except for that one occasion but my mum can't remember it. i occasion but my mum can't remember it icertainly— occasion but my mum can't remember it. i certainly wasn't and we never had, _ it. i certainly wasn't and we never had, i_ it. i certainly wasn't and we never had, i never— it. i certainly wasn't and we never had, i never chose the material to
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transfused — had, i never chose the material to transfused myself. in had, i never chose the material to transfused myself.— had, i never chose the material to transfused myself. in terms of the communication _ transfused myself. in terms of the communication between _ transfused myself. in terms of the communication between the - transfused myself. in terms of the | communication between the school transfused myself. in terms of the - communication between the school or the haemophilia — communication between the school or the haemophilia centre _ communication between the school or the haemophilia centre and _ communication between the school or the haemophilia centre and your- the haemophilia centre and your parents. — the haemophilia centre and your parents. from _ the haemophilia centre and your parents, from your— the haemophilia centre and your parents, from your discussions i the haemophilia centre and your. parents, from your discussions with them, _ parents, from your discussions with them, what — parents, from your discussions with them, what were _ parents, from your discussions with them, what were they _ parents, from your discussions with them, what were they told - parents, from your discussions with them, what were they told about i parents, from your discussions with . them, what were they told about what treatment _ them, what were they told about what treatment you — them, what were they told about what treatment you were _ them, what were they told about what treatment you were receiving? - treatment you were receiving? nothing, — treatment you were receiving? nothing, nothing _ treatment you were receiving? nothing, nothing at _ treatment you were receiving? nothing, nothing at all. - treatment you were receiving? nothing, nothing at all.- nothing, nothing at all. their recollection, _ nothing, nothing at all. their recollection, i— nothing, nothing at all. their recollection, ithink- nothing, nothing at all. their recollection, i think you - nothing, nothing at all. their recollection, i think you have| nothing, nothing at all. their recollection, i think you have said, is recollection, ! think you have said, is that— recollection, ! think you have said, is that they— recollection, i think you have said, is that they were _ recollection, ! think you have said, is that they were never— recollection, i think you have said, is that they were never written - recollection, i think you have said, is that they were never written to i is that they were never written to or informed — is that they were never written to or informed directly— is that they were never written to or informed directly about - is that they were never written to or informed directly about the - or informed directly about the products— or informed directly about the products you _ or informed directly about the products you are _ or informed directly about the products you are receiving. i or informed directly about the i products you are receiving. no, or informed directly about the products you are receiving. no, they didn't even — products you are receiving. no, they didn't even know _ products you are receiving. no, they didn't even know when _ products you are receiving. no, they didn't even know when i _ products you are receiving. no, they didn't even know when i had - products you are receiving. no, they didn't even know when i had a - products you are receiving. no, they| didn't even know when i had a bleed. my naunt's— didn't even know when i had a bleed. my mum's it — didn't even know when i had a bleed. my mum's it was we only found about what had _ my mum's it was we only found about what had happened to you when i told them _ what had happened to you when i told them so— what had happened to you when i told them so if— what had happened to you when i told them so if i_ what had happened to you when i told them. so if i went home for a leave weekend _ them. so if i went home for a leave weekend every third weekend or doing the holidays, i might get in a conversation with them or might have a bleed _ conversation with them or might have a bleed at _ conversation with them or might have a bleed at the time and other than that, _ a bleed at the time and other than that, they— a bleed at the time and other than that, they wouldn't notify was on factor— that, they wouldn't notify was on factor vt", — that, they wouldn't notify was on factor viii, what i was on. they wouldn't — factor viii, what i was on. they wouldn't even know when i changed from cryo _ wouldn't even know when i changed from cryo to concentrate. gary
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how he was informed that he was hiv positive at the age of 17. i was with a friend _ positive at the age of 17. i was with a friend and _ positive at the age of 17. i was with a friend and we _ positive at the age of 17. i was with a friend and we were - positive at the age of 17. i was i with a friend and we were asked positive at the age of 17. i was - with a friend and we were asked to id with a friend and we were asked to go up _ with a friend and we were asked to go up and — with a friend and we were asked to go up and see the doctor and it could _ go up and see the doctor and it could have _ go up and see the doctor and it could have been as well and we went in the _ could have been as well and we went in the room. — could have been as well and we went in the room, and he said i've got some _ in the room, and he said i've got some bad — in the room, and he said i've got some bad news, you are positive for htlv _ some bad news, you are positive for htlv three. — some bad news, you are positive for htlv three, hiv. and that was it. he said we _ htlv three, hiv. and that was it. he said we don't— htlv three, hiv. and that was it. he said we don't know a lot about it, and the _ said we don't know a lot about it, and the outlook is not good, we cannot— and the outlook is not good, we cannot guarantee that you would be alive in _ cannot guarantee that you would be alive in a _ cannot guarantee that you would be alive in a couple of years and that was it. _ alive in a couple of years and that was it, really. we just stood, looked — was it, really. we just stood, looked at _ was it, really. we just stood, looked at each other and... i don't know— looked at each other and... i don't know whether in shock or, sorry to say we _ know whether in shock or, sorry to say we probably laughed at each other~ _ say we probably laughed at each other~ it — say we probably laughed at each other. it wasjust say we probably laughed at each other. it was just a shock.
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say we probably laughed at each other. it wasjust a shock. and that was it _ other. it wasjust a shock. and that was it it's — other. it wasjust a shock. and that was it it's all— other. it wasjust a shock. and that was it. it's all a bit vague, now, but,~~~ — was it. it's all a bit vague, now, but,... , was it. it's all a bit vague, now, but,... i ,, �*, . was it. it's all a bit vague, now, but,... . ,, �*, . . but,... gary webster's evidence and in inuui but,... gary webster's evidence and in inquiry that _ but,... gary webster's evidence and in inquiry that he — but,... gary webster's evidence and in inquiry that he should _ but,... gary webster's evidence and in inquiry that he should be, - in inquiry that he should be, incredible he should be told at the age of 17 he might only have a couple of years to live? plenty of other boys _ couple of years to live? plenty of other boys at _ couple of years to live? plenty of other boys at the _ couple of years to live? plenty of other boys at the school- couple of years to live? plenty of other boys at the school were i couple of years to live? plenty of| other boys at the school were told very similar accounts. aid you saw in my report is one of the 32 people of the boys went to the school who are still alive but both of his brothers died, one from aids in 1987 and one from hepatitis c in 2015, so his whole family, it is whole families that have been affected by this. this is part of a wider public inquiry into the contaminated blood scandal. 122 boys went to that school, but if you look more broadly, it's not between 2000—3000 haemophiliacs would have died from hiv, hepatitis, between the kind of
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mid—705 and really up to current day. at the moment, and since they started the public inquiry a few years ago, it thought 350 people who were infected have passed away so it's really a current tragedy as well as one that is historic when you look back.— well as one that is historic when you look back. thank you, and as i said, you look back. thank you, and as i said. gary — you look back. thank you, and as i said, gary webster _ you look back. thank you, and as i said, gary webster is _ you look back. thank you, and as i said, gary webster is still - you look back. thank you, and as i said, gary webster is still talking. | said, gary webster is still talking. we canjust hear a clip said, gary webster is still talking. we can just hear a clip from said, gary webster is still talking. we canjust hear a clip from him talking about the impact of this on him and his family.— talking about the impact of this on him and his family. getting told you have not him and his family. getting told you have got two _ him and his family. getting told you have got two years _ him and his family. getting told you have got two years to _ him and his family. getting told you have got two years to live... - him and his family. getting told you have got two years to live... even i have got two years to live... even though i kept a job down, yes, i didn't really care about things that much and then we got in that time, we got payment, didn't we? so if i wanted to do something, i could, i suppose. i wasjust wanted to do something, i could, i suppose. i was just fed wanted to do something, i could, i suppose. i wasjust fed up wanted to do something, i could, i suppose. i was just fed up and those ten years were pretty rough. you have described _
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ten years were pretty rough. you have described that he went off the rails _ have described that he went off the rails do— have described that he went off the rails. do you want to tell us any more _ rails. do you want to tell us any more about— rails. do you want to tell us any more about that time? i can read part of— more about that time? i can read part of your— more about that time? i can read part of your statement. | more about that time? i can read part of your statement.— part of your statement. i think i tried to kill— part of your statement. i think i tried to kill myself _ part of your statement. i think i tried to kill myself once. - part of your statement. i think i tried to kill myself once. i - part of your statement. i think i tried to kill myself once. i stuck part of your statement. i think i i tried to kill myself once. i stuck a car through a brick wall and only broke my ankle so it wasn't particularly successful. i just... broke my ankle so it wasn't particularly successful. ijust... i was... i wasjust particularly successful. ijust... i was... i was just out of it, i didn't care. and then i pulled myself together, amy was born. and now you live with it and cope with it every day. now you live with it and cope with it every day-— now you live with it and cope with it every day. from your discussion with our it every day. from your discussion with your parents, _ it every day. from your discussion with your parents, particularly - it every day. from your discussion | with your parents, particularly your mum, _ with your parents, particularly your mum. can— with your parents, particularly your mum, can you tell us anything of the effect _ mum, can you tell us anything of the effect and _ mum, can you tell us anything of the effect and impact on her at that time? _ effect and impact on her at that time? , , time? oh, it destroyed them. they had it well, — time? oh, it destroyed them. they had it well, but _ time? oh, it destroyed them. they had it well, but it _ time? oh, it destroyed them. they had it well, but it has _ time? oh, it destroyed them. they had it well, but it has affected - time? oh, it destroyed them. they had it well, but it has affected the l had it well, but it has affected the whole family. my brother. it's...
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it's hard for me to tell you how they feel. i can only imagine, it destroyed them.— they feel. i can only imagine, it destro ed them. , . ,, destroyed them. gary webster there aaivin destroyed them. gary webster there giving evidence _ destroyed them. gary webster there giving evidence at _ destroyed them. gary webster there giving evidence at the _ destroyed them. gary webster there giving evidence at the infected - giving evidence at the infected blood inquiry, very calmly but seeing how having been told he may or may have had a couple of years to live as a 17—year—old boy, having been given contaminated blood products, the impact on him, how he later tried to kill himself and how it destroyed his parents. we will have more from that inquiry because other former pupils at that school in hampshire continuing to give evidence this afternoon. doctors and nhs trusts have warned ministers that they need to start planning now if they want to roll out a covid vaccine booster programme in the autumn. they want to know whether the vaccines need to be tweaked because of new covid variants, and whether to combine them with flu jabs.
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the health secretary matt hancock has said that plans will be set out in the next few weeks. it comes as the prime minister borisjohnson says the data is still "looking good" to end covid restrictions in england on the 19th ofjuly. on foreign travel, he says he is "looking at" an exemption from quarantine for people who have had both doses of a covid jab, but warned it will be a difficult year for trips abroad, and that the "emphasis is going to be on making sure we can protect the country from the virus coming back in". he went on to confirm that cases of the delta variant are rising at a rate of about 30% a week with hospitalisations and intensive care admissions "roughly the same". meanwhile, england's young adults continue to respond to the call to get a vaccine, with more than a million appointments made over the weekend. so far, nearly 60% of uk adults have had two jabs of the vaccine, meaning they are fully vaccinated. and more than four in five adults have had their first dose. here's our health correspondent dominic hughes.
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more than a million vaccination appointments booked injust 2 days, opening up jabs to the over 18s in england has proved popular. this hall in halifax, normally a live music venue, over the weekend transformed into a busy pop—up vaccination centre. a lot of our generation just want to get on with our lives now, and if the vaccine is the way out of that, i think we are all for it. all adults in wales and northern ireland can also book a vaccine, and over 18s in glasgow, but even as the roll—out accelerates, health leaders are raising questions about plans for an autumn covid booster campaign. they say we need data on how long protection lasts from the original double doses, how will tweaking the vaccines for new variants work? will that happen every year like the flu vaccine, will children be vaccinated, and if so, when, where and how? and they argue the lifting of restrictions in england and across the rest of the uk is a staging post, not an end point. the 19th ofjuly will enable us,
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hopefully, to remove the current restrictions on social contact, but we have then got to work out how we live with this virus long term, for the next two or three years, the experts are telling us, it will be quite tricky, because there will be variants of concern. of course, today was meant to see restrictions lifted in england, a decision that has now been put back tojuly the 19th, but some rules have changed, like the one limiting wedding guests to 30 people. that's great news for jodie and jonathan, getting married next week. it's good, time to start getting excited now! i yeah, we can have our evening do, which is wonderful, we have got i a brilliant band booked, and we have now had to get a marquee to do it outside — ministers say their plans for a covid boosterjab programme will be set out in the next few weeks. they are waiting for the results of trials of different combinations of vaccines, and this morning, the prime minister acknowledged there will be bumps in the road ahead. things like flu will come back
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this winter, we may have a rough winter for all sorts of reasons, and obviously there are big pressures on the nhs. all the more reason to reduce the number of covid cases now, give the nhs the breathing space it needs to get on with dealing with all those other pressures. meanwhile, pop—up centres, like the one in halifax, will play an important role until most people have had their second jabs. a key step towards keeping us all safe. with me is our health correspondent katharine da costa. the prime minister sounded quite optimistic about fulfilling his latest date for freedom they on the 19th ofjuly. but we do know that the variance and so on can creep up on us. ., �* , , the variance and so on can creep up on us. . �* , , ., on us. that's right. things are lookin: on us. that's right. things are looking good _ on us. that's right. things are looking good he _ on us. that's right. things are looking good he said - on us. that's right. things are looking good he said for - on us. that's right. things are looking good he said for the i on us. that's right. things are i looking good he said for the 19th on us. that's right. things are - looking good he said for the 19th of july. because of the terminus point, it has been dubbed freedom day but we have heard that before from ministers, confident that
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restrictions in england could be lifted on the 21st ofjune but then we saw rising cases and that date being put back. he did point to the fact that the variant has meant cases are rising by about 30% in a week. and the government wants to allow more time for people to be vaccinated. and double doses and things are looking pretty good because 82% of adults have had at least one dose and nearly 60% have had two. the programme is progressing well. he refused to say whether he would entertain the idea of lifting restrictions earlier than the 19th ofjuly. he said he was optimistic about this idea on getting rid of self isolation if you have had two doses and replacing it with daily testing of rapid tests, something being looked at, a study is under way, results are due later in the summer. he wasn't so keen or forthcoming allowing the same for foreign travel and doing away with
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quarantine on return. he says it's important we look at the opportunities, there could be potential to get ready self isolation, but in terms of going on foreign holidays, he said actually the priority is keeping the country safe and not allowing the virus. he is under huge pressure, there has been criticism from labour that the government was too slow to put india on the red list for travel countries and that allowed a lot of the delta variant to come in and to spread in the country. there is still work to do all the vaccine programme is obviously progressing well. speaking about it, a obviously progressing well. speaking about it. a lot— obviously progressing well. speaking about it, a lot of— obviously progressing well. speaking about it, a lot of talk _ obviously progressing well. speaking about it, a lot of talk about - about it, a lot of talk about whether we are going to have booster jabs in the autumn, a third in other words. how likely is that? it's still under consideration as i understand it?— still under consideration as i understand it? that's right. we still don't know _ understand it? that's right. we still don't know whether - understand it? that's right. we still don't know whether you i still don't know whether you definitely need one in the autumn but the question is out there, how long does immunity last? that's still being studied, this is
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obviously still quite new and gps and hospital urged ministers have to have a plan in place because they say it will be a really complex programme to put in place. often the nhs is under winter pressure, anyway. it has this huge backlog of nonurgent operations to get through so it has a lot to deal with, it wants to know what's going to be, what logistics need to be put in place and workforce etc. other things like can you mix and match covid doses? that's another thing being looked at and can you give covid shots alongside flu jab is? because of course the winter campaign for the flu jab is due to start in september, these are ongoing studies and the health secretary has said they will look at that data and make a decision and announce more in the coming days. thank you very much indeed. nicola sturgeon has accused the mayor of greater manchester,
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andy burnham, of playing politics in a row over a scottish government ban on travel to salford and manchester. last week, the first minister announced that nonessential travel between scotland and salford and manchester would be banned from today. over the weekend, mr burnham said he'd received no warning about the plan and he was writing to the first minister to request compensation for people whose travel had been disrupted. nicola sturgeon suggested this morning that if mr burnham wanted a grown—up conversation, he should pick up the phone. these are public health measures. i have a duty, it's one i take very seriously, to keep scotland as safe as possible. i'm sure andy burnham feels that same sense of duty towards people in the greater manchester area. i have always got on well with andy burnham, if he wants a grown—up conversation, he only has to pick up the phone, but if, as i suspect might be the case, this is more about generating a spat with me as part of some positioning
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in a labour leadership contest of the future, but i am not interested. we have all got a serious job of work to do and right now i am serious about doing thatjob in a way to keep scotland as safe as i possibly can. our correspondent, james shaw, is in glasgow. this row between two very high profile leaders of devolved administrations in the uk starts with andy burnham talking to the bbc�*s nick robinson, complaining about the fact that he says there was no notice of this restriction on nonessential travel between scotland and salford and manchester. he says he had no warning of it, and he says it is hypocrisy on the part of nicola sturgeon, because she sometimes complains that the uk government doesn't consult with scotland, and here she is, according to him, not consulting with him. nicola sturgeon's response to that, essentially, she claims that andy burnham is playing political games, trying to boost his public profile with this row, with the leader of the scottish government.
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she says that, in fact, there was a travel ban imposed on bolton, which is part of greater manchester, back in may, and andy burnham didn't complain about that. sometimes, she says, it is the case that with this fast—moving situation, the way that the virus can flare up in particular locations, decisions have to be made very swiftly and i guess sometimes without the consultation that would otherwise happen. up to 10,000 fans will be allowed into stadiums to watch events at next month's olympics in tokyo. the decision goes against the advice of a panel of experts, who called on the organisers to hold the games without spectators present. our correspondent, rupert wingfield—hayes, is in tokyo. we did expect to see, it had been leaked bed and the numbers were just as expected. fans going to the stadiums will be required to wear masks, they are not allowed to cheer. they have been told the clap, been
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told to go straight to the stadiums and straight home afterwards, so they are trying to mitigate the risk, but they won't be required to have tests or any sort of covid tests before they go in, and people will be able to come here to tokyo from all overjapan. experts i have been speaking to today say this is a huge risk, because they believe that japan is in the first stages of a fifth wave of covid, the state of emergency has just been lifted. infection rates are rising and they think a new wave could strike tokyo in about a months time, just at the time the olympics are opening and mixing could make that fifth wave even worse. with many of us turning to online shopping during the pandemic, there's been a huge increase in demand for warehouses to process our orders. latest figures show the amount of warehouse space used by online retailers has grown by more than 600% over the last six years. here's our business correspondent, emma simpson.
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when you click the "buy" button online, chances are your purchase will come from here. it's a warehouse city near northampton, and it's about to get even bigger. it's a great location for logistics because over there you can see the m1 motorway. i've been in the sector for nearly 30 years and i've never seen demand like it. we're building buildings speculatively, which means we haven't got a customer lined up, and we're letting them before we finish. that doesn't often happen. and the sheds are getting bigger. this will be royal mail's new parcel hub. high street shops may be closing, but there is a race for space in logistics. this is the result of our growing appetite for online shopping, and shows just how quickly retail is changing. injust six years, the amount of large warehouse space has risen by 32% to 566 million square feet. that's like adding nearly 2,400 football pitches.
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and we're going to need a lot more. if notjust about online retail. if not just about online retail. it's about automotive and manufacturing. as we move to electric vehicles, we're going to need battery plants and their supply chain. and as a result of brexit, companies want to store more inventory in the uk. they'll need an army of workers, too. amazon alone is recruiting 10,000 staff this year. asif lost his job at a luxury hotel and has now changed career. the hospitality industry completely shut down. | i was fortunate that. i got a job and it's very different, it's logistics. before i was in the. hospitality industry. now it's entirely different. but the aim is the same, i to look after the customers. warehousing is becoming an ever—bigger part of our economy. we should absolutely see this as part of our national infrastructure. without this, society can't function. they were unfashionable not that long ago, but these big sheds sure are hot property now. emma simpson, bbc news, northamptonshire.
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new flexible rail season tickets have gone on sale, aimed at people who only need to commute two or three times a week. people are working from home more often because of the pandemic, meaning traditional season tickets no longer represent good value. the changes are part of the government's planned shake—up of rail services, as katie prescott reports. staring at a departures board is no longer a daily chore for many. even before covid, the number of passengers using season tickets was falling, as more people went part—time, or worked from home. now that train has left the station. it's a bit of a hybrid, i think, and that's going to continue, i think. it's going to be 50—50. i mean, i've worked from home for probably eight years now. largely, anyway. so, i think it's, there's going to be an upturn in working from home, 100%, definitely.
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covid has shown us that we can work from home, but i think probably three days a week, maybe two days from home will be the norm going forward. the change in the way we commute, how and if we need to commute at all, has been transformed by the pandemic. the aim of these new tickets is to give part—time passengers access to the same savings and benefits as regular weekly commuters, butjust paying for the days they travel. recognition by the train companies that flexible working is here to stay. the new tickets will allow passengers in england to travel on any eight days in a 28 day period, or twice a week. it will be a paperless system, allowing travellers to tap smart cards or scan their mobiles at the station, and passengers won't need to choose the days they travel in advance. but passenger groups say people still need to be careful which tickets they buy. the flexible season tickets that go on sale today - will be good news for some, but not for all, so it's- important that people use -
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the calculator that is being put on to the national rail enquiries website. - it may be the traditional season ticket is still better— value, so it's great _ there still remains both options. the rail companies would like to see government change the rules underpinning the ticket system, to make them even more flexible in future. as people start to return to the office after the pandemic, we know they will travel differently, two or three days at home, two or three days a week in the office, and these new flexible season tickets will mean they can save money while working like that. but as train companies, we want to go even further and totally reform the fares system, so that people can have tap in and tap out technology and commuters all across the country benefit from that, and instead of having to buy a ticket up front and know their plans in advance. this is just the first step in major reforms of the railways announced last month. you can start using the new tickets a week monday. katie prescott, bbc news.
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scotla nd scotland and northern ireland with most of the sunshine today though you may catch a passenger in the highlands. england and wales, increasing cloud, may have seen some sunshine in parts of wales in the midlands. seeing light rain and drizzle pushing south out of northern england but the most persistent rain sitting across southern england and parts of, quite cool southern england and parts of, quite cool, north—easterly breeze making it feel cooler still and outbreaks of rain, tonight becoming confined to south—east england by the end of the night. elsewhere, dry or becoming dry. clear spells and temperatures dipping away. highland spots may get close to freezing for a touch of frost. some sunshine starts the day. for many of us tomorrow, dry with sunny spells, light rain and drizzle is clearing from south—east england as it brightens up. cloud increasing and into northern ireland we will see outbreaks of rain moving and as the day goes on.
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hello this is bbc news. the headlines... a public inquiry into the contaminated blood scandal hears how dozens of pupils at a school for disabled children died — after being given infected blood products to treat them for haemophilia. what was i, 11, 12 years old? there was no explanation like you get now or anything like that. theyjust said, right, you're having this and i had it. doctors and nhs trusts have warned ministers that they need to start planning now if they want to roll out a covid vaccine booster programme in the autumn. meanwhile, the prime minister says that it is 'looking good' for the lifting of restrictions in england to go ahead onjuly19th. scotland midfielder billy gilmour tests positive for covid — and will miss the euro 2020 match with croatia tomorrow. and the first person in the world to get a covid jab outside of trials — 91—year—old margaret keenan — speaks to the bbc.
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sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre. all from the bbc sport centre. the latest sport includi gilmour all the latest sport including billy gilmour testing positive which is a huge blow for scotland, isn't it? a blow for scotland at the european championship — ahead of their final group game against croatia. midfielder billy gilmour will miss the match — after testing postive for covid. it's a must—win match tomorrow, to have hope of making the knockouts. former scotland winger pat nevin says the losing gilmour will mean the squad have to adapt. he actually was pretty special. scotland play in a very different way, much more confidently when he is on the pitch. let's hope he is ok stop, positive but no illness, that is more important than anything else. scotland fans will be thinking, they will have to rejig it again, maybe put mctominay back into midfield.
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go back to the style they played against the czech republic, which wasn't very successful. it was a real blow. if billy gilmour is out now, you have to think, who has he been mixing with? will we get news that he has been mixing close by others? and they'll have to self—isolate as well? it's not good news for scotland. england have released a statement confirming all 26 players and the wider support team returned negative results after the latest round of testing on sunday. they've been training this morning, ahead of tomorrow night's game against the czech republic at wembley. england are second in the table, on four points and just behind the czechs on goal difference. they'll certainly be looking for more intensity than they showed in the goalless draw with scotland. despite defeat against italy — wales are into the last 16 — and will now have a keen interest in tonight's matches. they will play the runners up of group b — who's final matches kick off at 8pm tonight. before that, it's the final matches in group c. the netherlands are already through — but second place in the group still up for grabs. jos buttler admits that he expects to be playing for england rather than taking part in the rescheduled indian premier league this autumn
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as the team build up for the t20 world cup later this year in india. the ipl was postponed in may because of coronavirus but is set to be concluded in september and october — the same time that england are touring bangladesh and pakistan. england's director of cricket ashley giles has previously said that england duty will take priority over the ipl but if the decision was up to buttler — where would he choose to play? probably where he says, i would have thought so. those england games, you know, usually the pocket of the ipl doesn't clash with any international cricket so it makes it very easy tournament to be available for. when it clashes with international cricket, the england cricket take precedence. weather has dictated proceedings at the ageas bowl in southampton — with no play possible on day four of the test championship final between india and new zealand. and the rain is controlling things too at roehampton —
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with qualifying for wimbledon currently suspended. and play has been abandoned for the day at eastbourne too — a tournament which cameron norrie has pulled out of — after reaching the final at queen's. john rahm insists he believed in his 'sunday mojo' to take him to victory at the us open — his first major win. he finished a shot clear of the field at torrey pines, which is where he won his first pga title in 2017. the victory also means he returns to the top of the world rankings. i've been close before, and ijust knew on a sunday, the way i had been playing on the sundays in the last few majors, ijust had to be close, and i knew i could get it done. and i am keeping a good sunday mojo going. i mean, i got it done in a fashion that apparently can only happen to me at torrey pines. now, british cyclist mark cavendish will return to the tour de france for the first time since 2018 this weekend. he's been named in the eight—man squad for deceuninck ouickstep. after irishman sam bennett was ruled out through injury. this year's race begins on saturday.
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that's all the sport for now but there's more on all those stories on the bbc sport website. that's all the sport for now. i'll have more for you in the next hour. all right, gavin. thank you very much indeed. thank you very much indeed. july 19th is still "looking good" to be an end point for restrictions in england, borisjohnson has said. but he added that delta variant cases are still rising and the priority is to keep more variants out of the uk. doctors and hospital trusts say the government must begin planning for an autumn jab roll—out now. the government says it is planning autumn covid booster shots — but awaiting trial results. let's have a listen to a little of what the prime minister has had to say this morning. i think you can never exclude that there will be some new disease, some of you have of that we simply haven't budgeted for or accounted for but looking at where we are, looking at the efficacy of the vaccines of all variants that we can
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currently see, alpha, delta, the lot of them. capper! i think it is looking good forjuly the 19th to be that terminus point. that was the prime minister. i'm joined now by danny altmann, professor of immunology at imperial college london. tarski ta rski first tarski first of you think they need to be boosterjabs milton. it is under consideration by the government. do you think we need them? this government. do you think we need them? �* , ., government. do you think we need them? �* , . ., government. do you think we need them? m . �* . them? as far as i'm concerned, lookin: them? as far as i'm concerned, looking at _ them? as far as i'm concerned, looking at the _ them? as far as i'm concerned, looking at the data, _ them? as far as i'm concerned, looking at the data, the - them? as far as i'm concerned, looking at the data, the jury - them? as far as i'm concerned, looking at the data, the jury is. looking at the data, the jury is still out. in most of us i think levels will probably be good for god good year or so but we need monitoring to know what is happening and look at it in real—time. the and look at it in real-time. the prime minister _ and look at it in real-time. the prime minister says _ and look at it in real—time. the prime minister says it is looking good to end restrictions in england on the 19th ofjuly. you agree with that? i on the 19th ofjuly. you agree with that? ., , , , ., ,
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that? i hope he is right but i hope we will continue _ that? i hope he is right but i hope we will continue to _ that? i hope he is right but i hope we will continue to be _ that? i hope he is right but i hope we will continue to be led - that? i hope he is right but i hope we will continue to be led by - that? i hope he is right but i hope we will continue to be led by the i we will continue to be led by the data. things move very fast, as we very well know, and the time of covid. when i look at the shape of the curves at the moment with respect to new cases a new delta cases advising cases, rising hospitalisations, i don't feel particularly kamala's watch the data and see how it looks.— and see how it looks. because, surel , and see how it looks. because, surely. the _ and see how it looks. because, surely, the date _ and see how it looks. because, surely, the date on _ and see how it looks. because, | surely, the date on vaccinations and see how it looks. because, i surely, the date on vaccinations at lease is very good. we know that. susan hopkins from public health england was saying actually we can lift restrictions want 17% of people have been double vaccinated and she is expecting that to be by the 19th. we have already got about 16% who have had both jabs and soon it will be 17%. i have had both 'abs and soon it will be 17%. “ have had both 'abs and soon it will be 17%. ~ , ., , ., ., ., be 17%. i think she has got a fair oint and be 17%. i think she has got a fair point and some _ be 17%. i think she has got a fair point and some people - be 17%. i think she has got a fair point and some people might i be 17%. i think she has got a fair| point and some people might put be 17%. i think she has got a fair i point and some people might put the number— point and some people might put the number slightly higher than 70%. it also comes— number slightly higher than 70%. it also comes complicated, doesn't it, because _ also comes complicated, doesn't it, because it _ also comes complicated, doesn't it, because it depends. 70% of whom? are we talking _ because it depends. 70% of whom? are we talking about everybody in the country _ we talking about everybody in the country who could be infected all the way —
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country who could be infected all the way down through secondary school _ the way down through secondary school children, in which case, obviously. _ school children, in which case, obviously, we want to see that. i will be _ obviously, we want to see that. i will be talking about 70% of susceptible adults. it some extent, the devil— susceptible adults. it some extent, the devil is — susceptible adults. it some extent, the devil is in the detail.— the devil is in the detail. some --eole the devil is in the detail. some people watching _ the devil is in the detail. some people watching and _ the devil is in the detail. some people watching and listening i the devil is in the detail. some i people watching and listening to the devil is in the detail. ch�*iv people watching and listening to you now might say scientists are always moving goalposts on this. we were promised in the 21st, now we are promised in the 21st, now we are promised the 19th ofjuly. surely the patience of has a limit? yes. promised the 19th ofjuly. surely the patience of has a limit? yes, i think we are _ the patience of has a limit? yes, i think we are really _ the patience of has a limit? yes, i think we are really trying - the patience of has a limit? yes, i think we are really trying not i the patience of has a limit? yes, i think we are really trying not to i think we are really trying not to move the goalposts but the virus keeps on doing it in our patience is running out and we are fatigued but, you know, the virus doesn't seem to care how bodily, just carries on regardless so i think, you know, it is in the nature of our profession to just try and look at the data and take care, why wouldn't we. yes. take care, why wouldn't we. yes, there is this _ take care, why wouldn't we. yes, there is this delta _ take care, why wouldn't we. yes, there is this delta variant - take care, why wouldn't we. yes, there is this delta variant and i take care, why wouldn't we. yes, there is this delta variant and it is alarming but rates of hospitalisations are not actually that high. yes, cases had been going
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up that high. yes, cases had been going up quite considerably but we understand that the rises tailing off in our hospitalisations, yes, higher than they were nothing like as bad as they were back injanuary, for example. pigment that is right and i think we have coming to a more nuanced and difficult discussion then we were having injanuary, and we, because we are not now talking about mitigation of thousands of excess deaths per day and an overrun nhs, we are talking about a much more difficult debate about what course we are setting for our future relationship with the virus. are we going to accept percolating virus at some kind of level in our schools and in our society for the foreseeable future, or are we going to try and keep it out. also, let mejust to try and keep it out. also, let me just as he finally about the idea that if you have been double vaccinated, almost as a reward of an incentive for being double vaccinated you maybe don't have to self—isolate or if you come
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into contact with somebody who has got covid or you don't have to quarantine after a trip, say, to a number country. what you think about idea? big night for me, it is in the same category. i can see the pragmatism of it, i can see it is useful. it is certainly worth debating and discussing. again, the devil is in the detail because people are very variable and when i look at dating the cohorts will look at than the seven double vaccinated people who would be very safe and wouldn't be infected or transmitting in some people who really wouldn't day. thank you very much. professor of immunology at imperial college in london. thanks for your time. the new zealand weightlifter, laurel hubbard, is set to become the first transgender athlete to compete at the olympics. the country's olympic committee has named her as part of the women's team for the tokyo games. here's our correspondent, phil mercer. sport is all about pushing boundaries, and that's certainly what laurel hubbard will be doing at the tokyo olympics. she will be the first transgender athlete to compete at the games.
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she has satisfied domestic and international criteria. she was competing in men's events until she transitioned in 2012. and she's had a pretty decorated career for new zealand. back in 2017, she won a silver medal at the world championships. she thought her career was over at the commonwealth games, a year later in 2018, when she broke her arm. but she's back to full fitness and back in the squad. the new zealand olympic officials are very cognisant of the fact that gender identity, in their words, is a very sensitive and complex issue in sport that requires a balance between human rights and the need for fairness in the field of play. there will be those who disapprove of her selection, but as far as the athlete herself is concerned, she said in a statement that she was humbled and that she was grateful.
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nicola williams from fair play for women — a campaigning and consultancy group which says its working to protect the rights of women and girls in the uk, says laurel hubbard competing in the women's category would be 'unfair�*. we have to think, you know, why do we even have female sports, female weightlifting in the first place? you know, it is because male bodies are different to female bodies and so, you know, someone who is born male has benefited from lifelong testosterone and female people haven't so, you know, when we ask should laurel hubbard complete in women's wait listing because the answer is no because laurel hubbard has been born male and benefited from testosterone so it is unfair fair laurel to be taking the place of a natal born woman who is now not making it to the olympics.
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that is one site of the argument. let's speak now with skyler bailar, the 1st transgender athlete on an american collegiate men's teamm, author and activist. thank you very much have been with us and i hope that you could hear that clip there from nicola william saying essentially a male body is different from a female body and it is unfair. what you say to that? i think there are differences in all bodies and we think that we know that there are plenty of differences within cis women's bodies as well and it is really important to me that chance children, trans kids are able to compete in sports. but then address that _ able to compete in sports. but then address that question _ able to compete in sports. but then address that question about - address that question about unfairness because we have also heard that from the former new zealand weightlifter tracey. she was. drop a division to make the 2018 commonwealth games because laurel hubbard was actually selected in her preferred event. she also saying it is unfair. she said
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everyone has just shot up and they are worried about how they will be viewed in regards to talking out about transgender athletes, in other words, she is saying competitors are scared to speak out on this issue. yeah, well, you know, ithink scared to speak out on this issue. yeah, well, you know, i think that the first thing we have to start with when we talk about transgender athletes and sport is the trans women trans women are women and trans men and then and i think oftentimes when we talk about this people were displacing other athletes and the reality is that when somebody wins it doesn't matter what their gender identity or gender background is, when they when they are absolutely displacing somebody else because that is what meaning means, right? cis women displays other cis women all the time when they win and trans women are women and sometimes they are also going to win. but and sometimes they are also going to win. �* ,., . ., ., and sometimes they are also going to win. �* ._ ., , win. but the point nicola williams was talkin: win. but the point nicola williams was talking about _ win. but the point nicola williams was talking about was _ win. but the point nicola williams was talking about was about i win. but the point nicola williams was talking about was about the l was talking about was about the numerous physical advantages from growing up male, testosterone and so on. ,, . ~ �* ., ., on. sure, and i think, i'm not a testosterone _ on. sure, and i think, i'm not a
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testosterone expert, _ on. sure, and i think, i'm not a testosterone expert, i- on. sure, and i think, i'm not a testosterone expert, i want i on. sure, and i think, i'm not a testosterone expert, i want to | on. sure, and i think, i'm not a i testosterone expert, i want to be relatively clear on that and i also know that biological differences in sport are many, especially within cis women and here is the thing and this is where sexism and misogyny and also races come into play. if you look at the white man such as michael phelps, when he has a biological advantage such as having half the levels of anaphylactic acid that the typical athlete produces people face him, the olympic committee praises him as a superior genetic specimen but when women have any kind of difference within their bodies it is considered unfair and this isn't specific to transgender women. we see this all the time. serena williams has been pleased all the time and this happens often more with black women specifically. savini williams has so much is not to transmit and has been called a man all the time because of how her body looks and is good at sport. this is not new. this is the continued policing of black and brown women's bodies in sport which is also spilling over to other marginalised groups such as trans women. . .,
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marginalised groups such as trans women. , ., ., ., marginalised groups such as trans women. ., ., ., _ women. there is a lot of controversy over laurel — women. there is a lot of controversy over laurel hubbard, _ women. there is a lot of controversy over laurel hubbard, as _ women. there is a lot of controversy over laurel hubbard, as you - women. there is a lot of controversy over laurel hubbard, as you know. i over laurel hubbard, as you know. donald trumpjunior has said that the selection is ridiculous. piers morgan has said that women's rights are being destroyed on the altar of political correctness.— political correctness. yeah, i have to be really _ political correctness. yeah, i have to be really clear _ political correctness. yeah, i have to be really clear with _ political correctness. yeah, i have to be really clear with you - political correctness. yeah, i have to be really clear with you i i political correctness. yeah, i have to be really clear with you i don'tl to be really clear with you i don't think either of these people are experts in sport so i don't think their words matter in the space expect to be blatantly trans phobic and blatantly unkind. tell]! expect to be blatantly trans phobic and blatantly unkind.— and blatantly unkind. tell is a bit more about— and blatantly unkind. tell is a bit more about your _ and blatantly unkind. tell is a bit more about your story. - and blatantly unkind. tell is a bit more about your story. i'm i and blatantly unkind. tell is a bit more about your story. i'm the i and blatantly unkind. tell is a bit i more about your story. i'm the first transgender — more about your story. i'm the first transgender athlete _ more about your story. i'm the first transgender athlete to _ more about your story. i'm the first transgender athlete to compete i more about your story. i'm the first transgender athlete to compete for| transgender athlete to compete for division one men's team and i'm a korean american transgender man. competing in sports and swimming has been an absolute central part of my life and being able to compete in spots of the gender identity that identify with absolutely save my life. ithink identify with absolutely save my life. i think sports of a fundamental human rights that children should absolutely be allowed to participate in and when we get lost in all these rules we invite children. right now, in the us, there are over 100 bills that are attacking trans people specifically and many specifically in sports trying to remove children
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from competing in sport and i think trans— kids absolutely deserve to play and there should be no genital exams for example which many states are proposing right now and kids. there is no reason for that. trans kids is well should be allowed to play. d0 kids is well should be allowed to play. do you see yourself as a pioneer? _ play. do you see yourself as a pioneer? l _ play. do you see yourself as a pioneer? i do _ play. do you see yourself as a pioneer? i do and _ play. do you see yourself as a pioneer? i do and i _ play. do you see yourself as a pioneer? i do and i don't. i. play. do you see yourself as a | pioneer? i do and i don't. i am play. do you see yourself as a i pioneer? i do and i don't. i am a doneer pioneer? i do and i don't. i am a pioneer by _ pioneer? i do and i don't. i am a pioneer by definition _ pioneer? i do and i don't. i am a pioneer by definition but - pioneer? i do and i don't. i am a pioneer by definition but i'm i pioneer? i do and i don't. i am a| pioneer by definition but i'm also just a kid who wanted to play my sport and was privileged to be able to be allowed to do that but it should not be a privilege for me to be allowed to swim.— should not be a privilege for me to be allowed to swim. skyler, good to talk to. thanks — be allowed to swim. skyler, good to talk to. thanks very _ be allowed to swim. skyler, good to talk to. thanks very much _ be allowed to swim. skyler, good to talk to. thanks very much for i talk to. thanks very much for joining us. organisers of the kendal calling musical festival in cumbria have blamed the government's "complete absence of any guidance" for their decision to cancel the event for the second year in a row.
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the festival had been due to take place at the end ofjuly — after cancelling last year due to the pandemic. andy smith is one of the organisers, and i asked him if he's received any direction from the government... freedom day that that is a issue but the government told us it is due to due to wanting to get more jabs in arms. that makes sense, we can see that data coming through every day and we have got confidence in that. but there was also a delay, in issuing the guidance, which is fundamentally what tripped us up. have you been trying to get the guidance, ringing up? the live industry as a whole has been. there have been meetings and the government has said it didn't fit with a communications plan. right, ok. let me just tell you what the department for digital, culture, media and sport are saying. they are saying we are working flat out to support festivals and live events and we have given £30 million to organisers from the culture recovery fund and also saying they're aware of wider concerns about insurance
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and indemnity and are exploring what further support may be required. so they say they're doing what they can. so, on the insurance point of view, yes, they have been looking into it and noticed the need and their reports have called for that insurance to come through. they are still working on it — it is not there yet. it is there other european countries and why isn't it in the uk? big question. secondly, they have been distributing an amount of money. a very large chunk of that is still undistributed to this day. thirdly, kendal calling has not received a penny of that. indeed, my parent's ice cream shop has got far in excess, way more support than kendal calling which supports the employment of 5,000 people when it is up and running on the weekend of the event. you know, we have not had any support, so it is all very well and good that they have had this sporadic distribution of relief but i know a lot of the suppliers
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who are going to the wall. and this must be heartbreaking for you but also for the, what, 25,000 people who were going to be there? reading the social media today it is heartbreaking. a lot of people have been looking forward to this for so long. we have all suffered through lockdown and this is something that has been a light at the end of the tunnel for a lot of people. it's notjust a weekend of frivolity and fun, it has got a deeper meaning than that. it has been heartbreaking for fans, musicians and workers. this year, the reasons have had to cancel make me quite angry, i'll be honest. andy smith, how and angry, as he said, one of the organisers of the candle corning music festival. —— kendall calling.
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as you heard earlier, more than a million people in england booked covid jabs on friday and saturday, after the nhs opened its vaccination programme to all adults. in december, 91—year—old margaret keenan became the first person in the world to receive a vaccine outside clinical trials. she's urged others to get a jab, and is still friends with the nurse who administered hers. they've both been talking to the bbc�*s dan walker. the world famous maggie keenan, lovely to see you. lovely to see you as well. here you are on the wall of the hospital as well. i can't believe it sometimes, you know. at the time, did it feel as momentous, as important as it does probably looking back now? oh, yes, it did. it did feel very important to have it done. and you're quite famous now, maggie. it's lovely that people are happy for me, you know. so, come with us. maggie may. yes, maggie may. where's rod stewart when you need him? exactly, i don't know. we're waiting for him to come. you've got this, you know, this beautiful bond now, which is not only between you two, but i suppose between everybody who watched that day. that's true, yes, that's true. and it's nice, because i think
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now we're a family now. so we're, like, bonded with that one, and i think sometimes it's really nice to see family who you haven't seen for so long. it is, it is. it was a sort of private moment that happened in a room in this hospital, but it was also something millions of people watched on tv. and i think it is fair to say, maggie, it gave hope to so many people as well. this was the whole meaning. this was the whole meaning, this is what i said a thousand times over, you know, i hoped that it has got the ball rolling. this wonderful injection's been offered to them. that was, kind of, something monumental for me in my career, because i've never been in the limelight. and i think it's a really big responsibility, as well, from my side, to actually represent the nurses, the doctors, the health care workers that work in the nhs, that we do a lot great things that we don't kind
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of normally shout about. in terms of the international interest after that jab back in december, what has that been like for both of you? do you talk about that? i had a letterfrom somebody, which i thought was really lovely. the words she has written at the bottom of letter was, "what a courageous lady", and that was just it. and i thought, well, you know, she thought that i've done something really good — i didn'tjust do it for me, why would i do it for me? i did it for everybody around. both of you will know there will be peopel watching this, thinking "that's great, but i don't want to have the jab." do you have a message for them, who might be seeing this? oh, yes, yes, yes. whatever you said or thought before, please do have the jab. there's nothing to it. don't be afraid of a needle just to save your life and to save other�*s lives. please have it done. the people that we're getting in the hospital recently, that are hospitalised are not vaccinated, and i think we need to be able to tell those people that are deciding otherwise, to kind of consider and reconsider what, you know, they're kind of taking on and the decisions, what is going to happen because of they decision.
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i didn't realise you were a bit of a nhs pioneer. because, is this right, you were one of the first people to get the bcg jab for tb back in the 19505 as well? they, sort of, picked me, i don't know why! there must be something about me. i mean, you're 91 now, still going strong, what are your, sort of, plans for...? oh dear. i don't plan too far in the future, dan, not as far as what i'm going to do next year or anything. ijust take it as it comes and enjoy every day, really, you know. can i say, it's been a real pleasure to speak to you both. i remember presenting on that day, watching you, felt like a really big step forward for everybody in the united kingdom, and around the world as well, so to sit here and talk to you now today, a few months on and seeing you both doing so well is fantastic. thank you. it's been a pleasure. it's my pleasure. it is nice to chat. it's my pleasure. maggie keenan and the nurse who gave
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her that first vaccination in the world. now, how is this for a moment of ecstasy very quickly becoming despair? that was asif ali — playing for illingworth st marys cricket club in halifax hitting a six — but that smash you heard, well, as you can probably tell by his reaction, it was his own car window! 0h oh my goodness. but i have to say, if i hit a six like that it might just be worth it to smash and car window. what a hit. now it's time for a look at the weather with nick miller hello to scotland and ireland that
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they may catch a passenger in the highlands. england and wales, increasing cloud, showers in wales and the midlands, like meaning drizzle, most persistent rain certainly sitting across. really quite cool and north—easterly breeze make it feel cooler still and still some outbreaks of rain this evening coming from south—east england by the end of the night. elsewhere tonight trial becoming dry, clear spells and temperature dipping way. in fact, in scotland, some of the highland spots they mayjust get close to freezing for a touch of frost into tomorrow morning that some sunshine to start the day. many of us, tomorrow will be dry with sunny spells. in light rain and drizzle slowly clearing in south—east england as it brightens up south—east england as it brightens up a touch. cloud increasing across north—west scotland and into northern ireland and we will see some outbreaks of rain moving on here is the day goes on. i buy.
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this is bbc news, i'm ben brown. the headlines... a public inquiry into the contaminated blood scandal hears how dozens of pupils at a school for disabled children died, after being given infected blood products to treat them for haemophilia. what was i? 11 or 12 years old, there was no explanation that you get now or anything like that. just said, "right, you are having this," and i had it. doctors and nhs trusts have warned ministers that they need to start planning now if they want to roll out a covid vaccine booster programme in the autumn. meanwhile, the prime minister says that it is 'looking good' for the lifting of restrictions in england to go ahead onjuly19th.
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nicola sturgeon accuses the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, of playing politics in a row over a scottish government ban on travel to salford and manchester. if he wants a grown—up conversation, he only has to pick up the phone, but if, as i suspect might be the case, about generating a spat with me over a labour leadership contest of the future, then i'm not interested. scotland midfielder billy gilmour tests positive for covid and will miss the euro 2020 match with croatia tomorrow. and the first person in the world to get a covid 91—year—old margaret keenan, speaks to the bbc. whatever you said, i've said before, please do have the jab, there's nothing to it, don't be afraid of a needle just to save your life and to save other�*s lives.
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good afternoon and welcome to bbc news. it's been called the worst treatment disaster in the history of the nhs, the deaths of thousands of people who were given contaminated blood products. well, today, the public inquiry into that disaster has begun hearing how students at a school in hampshire lost their lives after being offered treatment for haemophilia in the 19705 and '805. the children at treloar's college, a school for disabled children, were given a drug contaminated with hiv and viral hepatitis. 72 of them died. the first of the former students to give evidence before the inquiry have appeared today. our health correspondent jim reed reports. it was a huge, amazing place, beautiful. to come here as an eight—year—old,
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it gave freedom, total freedom. deep in the english countryside, treloar's is still a boarding school for children with physical disabilities. 40 years ago, it was home to boys with the blood disorder haemophilia. in the 19705 and '805, more than 120 young haemophiliacs were taught here. of that group, at least 72 lost their lives because of the blood treatments they were given. now a public inquiry is going to look in detail at what happened at this school in hampshire. half a century on, ade, richard and steve have returned here. as students, they were given a brand—new drug at the nhs centre on this site. freeze—dried concentrate was sold to us as a miracle, we were told, if you take this, you will be able to live a normal life, you will be able to play football, ride a bike. but we were never told the risks. in the 19805, that drug, known as factor viii/ix, was often
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imported from the united states. some of the plasma used to make it was contaminated with hepatitis and later hiv. at just 15 years old, ade was part of a group of boys at the school taken aside and told he was hiv positive. quite cheerfully, a doctor went round the room and said who's positive. "you have, you haven't, you have, you haven't, you have." and it was difficult and... ..and i was back in science by 1.50. i didn't even get the afternoon off. my friend went outside and literally went to the horticulture department, picked up a pot and threw it against the haemophilia centre wall. in 1983, hiv—aids was not just untreatable, those infected also had to deal with the stigma of the disease. alec macpherson was the head teacher at the time. now 86 years old, he has agreed to give evidence at the public inquiry this week.
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it caused them a lot of anxiety, i a lot of upset, and it built a rage inside them against, _ you know, "why me, why has this happened to me, and why have i got this dreadful thing?" _ of the 122 haemophiliacs who went to this school at the time, just 32 are known to be alive today. but when we come back to this wonderful school and... you know, we'vejust lost so many people. we all ask ourselves, "why me?" "why are we still here?" a series of hearings focused on the school are taking place this week, as part of the wider inquiry into the use of infected blood products. former pupils and their families want to know if more could have been done to protect the young boys involved. jim reed, bbc news.
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one former pupil of treloar's college, gary webster, has been giving evidence to the inquiry. he described how he was told he had tested positive for hiv. i was with a friend and we were asked to go up and see dr wassef and we went in the room, and he said "i've got some bad news, you are positive for htlv-3 hiv." and that was it. he said "we don't know a lot about it, and the outlook is not good, we cannot guarantee that you would be alive in a couple of years," and that was it, really. he described the impact the news had on him. i think i tried to kill myself once.
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i stuck a car through a brick wall and only managed to reak i stuck a car through a brick wall and only managed to break my ankle so it wasn't particularly successful. i just... iwas... i wasjust out of it, i didn't care. and then i pulled myself together, amy was born. and now you live with it and cope with it every day. and he said he believed what's happened was avoidable. lam angry, because... i am angry, because... of what has happened — i am angry, because... of what has happened. because i think it was avoidable — happened. because i think it was avoidable. when they told us afterwards, oh, it wasjust an accident _ afterwards, oh, it wasjust an accident when they decided to say something about it. and ijust think what could — something about it. and ijust think what could have been for us all.
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gary webster, a former pupil giving evidence. we have had the latest coronavirus figures for the united kingdom, let's show you now. covid deaths, five today, comparing with six on sunday. those are the latest coronavirus deaths. five more people dying within 28 days of a positive virus test and the prime minister had said today that the latest data on covid does look good for the lifting of all restrictions in england onjuly the 19th.
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doctors and nhs trusts have warned ministers that they need to start planning now, if they want to roll out a covid vaccine booster programme in the autumn. they want to know whether the vaccines need to be tweaked because of new covid variants, and whether to combine them with flu jabs. the health secretary matt hancock has said that plans will be set out in the next few weeks. dominic hughes reports. more than a million vaccination appointments booked injust 2 days, opening up jabs to the over 18s in england has proved popular. this hall in halifax, normally a live music venue, over the weekend transformed into a busy pop—up vaccination centre. i think a lot of our generation just want to get on with our lives now, and if the vaccine is the way out of that, i think we are all for it. all adults in wales and northern ireland can also book a vaccine, and over 18s in glasgow, but even as the roll—out accelerates, health leaders are raising questions about plans for an autumn covid booster campaign. they say we need data on how long protection lasts
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from the original double doses, how will tweaking the vaccines for new variants work? will that happen every year like the flu vaccine, will children be vaccinated, and if so, when, where and how? and they argue the lifting of restrictions in england and across the rest of the uk is a staging post, not an end point. the 19th ofjuly will enable us, hopefully, to remove the current restrictions on social contact, but we have then got to work out how we live with this virus long term, for the next two or three years, the experts are telling us, it will be quite tricky, because there will be variants of concern. of course, today was meant to see restrictions lifted in england, a decision that has now been put back tojuly the 19th, but some rules have changed, like the one limiting wedding guests to 30 people. that's great news for jodie and jonathan, getting married next week. it's good, time to start getting excited now! i yeah, we can have our evening do, which is wonderful, we have got i a brilliant band booked,
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and we have now had to get a marquee to do it outside — ministers say their plans for a covid boosterjab programme will be set out in the next few weeks. they are waiting for the results of trials of different combinations of vaccines, and this morning, the prime minister acknowledged there will be bumps in the road ahead. things like flu will come back this winter, we may have a rough winter for all sorts of reasons, and obviously there are big pressures on the nhs. all the more reason to reduce the number of covid cases now, give the nhs the breathing space it needs to get on with dealing with all those other pressures. meanwhile, pop—up centres, like the one in halifax, will play an important role until most people have had their second jabs. a key step towards keeping us all safe. our health correspondent katharine da costa said that while the prime minister sounded optimistic, we also know these variants can creep up on us.
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things are looking good, he said, for the 19th ofjuly. because of the terminus point, it has been dubbed freedom day but we have heard that before from ministers, they said they were confident that restrictions in england could be lifted on the 21st ofjune but then we saw rising cases and that date being put back. he did point to the fact that the variant has meant cases are rising by about 30% in a week. and the government wants to allow more time for people to be vaccinated. and double doses and things are looking pretty good, because 82% of adults have had at least one dose and nearly 60% have had two. the programme is progressing well. he refused to say whether he would entertain the idea of lifting restrictions earlier than the 19th ofjuly. he said he was optimistic about this idea on getting rid of self isolation if you have had two doses and replacing it with daily testing of rapid tests,
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something being looked at, a study is under way, results are due later in the summer. he wasn't so keen or forthcoming on allowing the same for foreign travel and doing away with quarantine on return. he says it's important we look at the opportunities, there could be potential to get rid of self isolation, but in terms of going on foreign holidays, he said actually the priority is keeping the country safe and not allowing the virus. he is under huge pressure, there has been criticism from labour in particular that the government was too slow to put india on the red list for travel countries and that allowed a lot of the delta variant to come in and to spread in the country. there is still work to do all the vaccine programme is obviously progressing well. speaking about it, a lot of talk about whether we are going to have boosterjabs in the autumn, a third in other words. how likely is that?
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it's still under consideration as i understand it? that's right. we still don't know whether you definitely need one in the autumn but the question is out there, how long does immunity last? that's still being studied, this is obviously still quite new and gps and hospital urged ministers have to have a plan in place because they say it will be a really complex programme to put in place. often the nhs is under winter pressure, anyway. it has this huge backlog of nonurgent operations to get through so it has a lot to deal with, it wants to know what's going to be, what logistics need to be put in place and workforce etc. other things like can you mix and match covid doses? that's another thing being looked at and can you give covid shots alongside flu jab is? because of course the winter campaign for the flu jab is due to start in september, these are ongoing studies and the health secretary has said they will look at that data and make a decision and announce more in the coming days.
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nicola sturgeon has accused the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, of playing politics in a row over a scottish government ban on travel to salford and manchester. last week the first minister announced that nonessential travel between scotland and both those places would be banned from today. over the weekend, mr burnham said he'd received no warning of the plan. he said he was writing to the first minister to request compensation for people whose travel had been disrupted. ms sturgeon suggested this morning that if mr burnham wanted a grown—up conversation, he should pick up the phone. these are public health measures. i have a duty, it's one i take very seriously, to keep scotland as safe as possible. i'm sure andy burnham feels that same sense of duty towards people in the greater manchester area. i have always got on well with andy burnham, if he wants a grown—up conversation, he only has to pick up the phone, but if, as i suspect might be
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the case, this is more about generating a spat with me as part of some positioning in a labour leadership contest of the future, then i am not interested. we have all got a serious job of work to do right now and i am serious about doing thatjob in a way to keep scotland as safe as i possibly can. let's pick up the details a little bit more now. our correspondent, james shaw, is in glasgow. this row between two very high profile leaders of devolved administrations in the uk starts with andy burnham talking to the bbc�*s nick robinson, complaining about the fact that he says there was no notice of this restriction on nonessential travel between scotland and salford and manchester. he says he had no warning of it, and he says it is hypocrisy on the part of nicola sturgeon, because she sometimes complains that the uk government doesn't consult with scotland, nicola sturgeon's response to that, essentially, she claims that andy burnham is playing political games, trying to boost his public
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profile with this row, with the leader of the scottish government. she says that, in fact, there was a travel ban imposed on bolton, which is part of greater manchester, back in may, and mr burnham didn't complain about that. sometimes, she says, it is the case that with this fast—moving situation, the way that the virus can flare up in particular locations, decisions have to be made very swiftly and i guess sometimes without the consultation that would otherwise happen. and we'll be speaking to andy burnham the mayor of greater manchester here on bbc news just after 5pm. the headlines on bbc news... a public inquiry into the contaminated blood scandal hears how dozens of pupils at a school for disabled children died,
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after being given infected blood products to treat them for haemophilia. doctors and nhs trusts have warned ministers that they need to start planning now if they want to roll out a covid vaccine booster programme in the autumn. nicola sturgeon accuses the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, of playing politics in a row over a scottish government ban on travel to salford and manchester. up to 10,000 fans will be allowed into stadiums to watch events at next month's olympics in tokyo. the decision goes against the advice of a panel of experts who called on the organisers to hold the games without spectators present. our correspondent, rupert wingfield—hayes , is in tokyo. we did expect it, it had been leaked bed and the numbers were just as we had expected. fans going to the stadiums will be
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required to wear masks, they are not allowed to cheer. they have been told the clap, they've been told to go straight to the stadiums and straight home afterwards, so they are trying to mitigate the risk, but they won't be required to have tests or any sort of covid tests before they go in, and people will be able to come here to tokyo from all overjapan. experts i have been speaking to today say this is a huge risk, because they believe that japan is in the first stages of a fifth wave of covid, the state of emergency has just been lifted. infection rates are rising and they think a new wave could strike tokyo in about a months time, just at the time the olympics are opening and mixing could make that fifth wave even worse. the theft of catalytic converters from cars across england, wales and northern ireland has more than doubled over the last two years, according to research from consumer charity which. the converters, which help to reduce pollution, contain metals like platinum. north wales saw the highest spike in thefts, while the west midlands had the largest number overall.
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with many of us turning to online shopping during the pandemic, there's been a huge increase in demand for warehouses to process our orders. latest figures show the amount of warehouse space used by online retailers has grown by more than 600% over the last six years. here's our business correspondent, emma simpson. when you click the "buy" button online, chances are your purchase will come from here. it's a warehouse city near northampton, and it's about to get even bigger. it's a great location for logistics because over there you can see the m1 motorway. i've been in the sector for nearly 30 years and i've never seen demand like it. we're building buildings speculatively, which means we haven't got a customer lined up, and we're letting them before we finish. that doesn't often happen.
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and the sheds are getting bigger. this will be royal mail's new parcel hub. high street shops may be closing, but there is a race for space in logistics. this is the result of our growing appetite for online shopping, and shows just how quickly retail is changing. in just six years, the amount of large warehouse space has risen by 32% to 566 million square feet. that's like adding nearly 2,400 football pitches. and we're going to need a lot more. if not just about online retail. it's notjust about online retail. it's about automotive and manufacturing. as we move to electric vehicles, we're going to need battery plants and their supply chain. and as a result of brexit, companies want to store more inventory in the uk. they'll need an army of workers, too. amazon alone is recruiting 10,000 staff this year. asif lost his job at a luxury hotel and has now changed career.
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the hospitality industry completely shut down. | i was fortunate that i i got a job and it's very different, it's logistics. before i was in the. hospitality industry. now it's entirely different. but the aim is the same, i to look after the customers. warehousing is becoming an ever—bigger part of our economy. we should absolutely see this as part of our national infrastructure. without this, society can't function. they were unfashionable not that long ago, but these big sheds sure are hot property now. emma simpson, bbc news, northamptonshire. new flexible rail season tickets have gone on sale, aimed at people who only need to commute two or three times a week. people are working from home more often because of the pandemic, meaning traditional season tickets no longer represent good value. the changes are part of the government's planned shake—up of rail services, as katie prescott reports. staring at a departures board is no longer a daily chore for many. even before covid, the number of passengers using season tickets was falling,
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as more people went part—time, or worked from home. now that train has left the station. it's a bit of a hybrid, i think, and that's going to continue, i think. it's going to be 50—50. i mean, i've worked from home for probably eight years now. largely, anyway. so, i think it's, there's going to be an upturn in working from home, 100%, definitely. covid has shown us that we can work from home, but i think probably three days a week, maybe two days from home will be the norm going forward. the change in the way we commute, how and if we need to commute at all, has been transformed by the pandemic. the aim of these new tickets is to give part—time passengers access to the same savings and benefits as regular weekly commuters, butjust paying for the days they travel. recognition by the train companies that flexible working is here to stay. the new tickets will allow passengers in england to travel on any eight days in a 28 day period, or twice a week.
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it will be a paperless system, allowing travellers to tap smart cards or scan their mobiles at the station, and passengers won't need to choose the days they travel in advance. but passenger groups say people still need to be careful which tickets they buy. the flexible season tickets that go on sale today - will be good news for some, but not for all, so it's- important that people use i the calculator that is being put on to the national rail enquiries website. i it may be the traditional season ticket is still better value, - so it's great there still remains both options. j the rail companies would like to see government change the rules underpinning the ticket system, to make them even more flexible in future. as people start to return to the office after the pandemic, we know they will travel differently, two or three days at home, two or three days a week in the office, and these new flexible season tickets will mean they can save money while working like that. but as train companies, we want to go even further and totally reform the fares system,
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so that people can have tap in and tap out technology and commuters all across the country benefit from that, and instead of having to buy a ticket up front and know their plans in advance. this is just the first step in major reforms of the railways announced last month. you can start using the new tickets a week monday. katie prescott, bbc news. the transport secretary grant shapps says the new tickets should save customers money. just recently, i announced that great british railways would be helping to bring our railways back together and this announcement today of flexible season—ticket picks up on a theme, something that has been happening for a while, which is that people have been buying fewer weekly season ticket even before corbett and as people go back, we expect them to travel to or three days a week in some cases and these tickets will ensure people are better off by as much as 20%, by travelling via
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flexible season—ticket. the woman who received the world's first covid vaccine outside of clinical trials has urged others to follow her lead. margaret keenan, who is 91, had the first dose of the pfizer vaccine in coventry in december of last year. she's given her only interview to bbc breakfast and said getting the jab was a moment of hope. this was the whole meaning. this was the whole meaning, that's what i said a thousand times over, you know. i hope, i hope that it has got the ball rolling, this wonderful injection that's been offered to them. that was kind of something monumental for me in my career, because i've never been in the limelight. i think it's a really big responsibility as well, from my side to actually represent the nurses, the doctors, the health care workers that, you know, work in the nhs, that we do a lot of great things, but we don't kind of normally shout about. and the day before that, we had to, i had to plan maggie's wardrobe because i didn't want her coming down in her gown. is this where the t—shirt came from?
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yes. i had a letterfrom somebody which i thought was really i lovely. the words she's written at the bottom of the letter was, "what a courageous lady", and that is what she said. and i thought, well, she thought i've done something really good, i didn'tjust do it for me, why would i do it for me? i did it for everybody around. both of you will know there'll be people watching this, thinking, "that's great but i don't want to have the jab. do you have a message for them, who might be seeing this? oh, yes, yes, yes. whatever you've said or thought before, please do have the jab. there's nothing to it, don't be afraid of a needle just to save your life and to save other�*s lives. please have it done. very good advice from margaret keenan, the first person in the world outside of trials to have the vaccine. now...how�*s this for a moment now,
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how is this for a moment of ecstasy very quickly becoming despair? that was asif ali — playing for illingworth st marys cricket club in halifax hitting a six — but that smash you heard, well, as you can probably tell by his reaction, it was his own car window! this was the end result. luckily for him, the chairman has agreed to pay to fix it. all in all, well worth hitting that fabulous six. well done to him. commiserations as well. now it's time for a look at the weather with nick miller. scotland and northern ireland with most of the sunshine today though you may catch a passing shower in the highlands. england and wales, increasing cloud, may have seen some sunshine in parts of wales and the midlands. seeing light rain and drizzle pushing south out of northern england but the most persistent rain sitting across southern england and parts of, quite cool,
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north—easterly breeze making it feel cooler still and outbreaks of rain, tonight becoming confined to south—east england by the end of the night. elsewhere, dry or becoming dry. clear spells and temperatures dipping away. some highland spots may get close to freezing for a touch of frost. some sunshine starts the day. for many of us tomorrow, dry with sunny spells, any light rain and drizzle aclearing slowly from south—east england as it brightens up. cloud increasing and into northern ireland we will see outbreaks of rain moving in here and as the day goes on.
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what was i, 11, 12 years old? there was no explanation like you get now or anything like that. theyjust said, "right, you're having this," and i had it. doctors and nhs trusts have warned ministers that they need to start planning now if they want to roll out a covid vaccine booster programme in the autumn. meanwhile, the prime minister says that it is 'looking good' for the lifting of restrictions in england to go ahead onjuly19th. nicola sturgeon accuses the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, of playing politics in a row over a scottish government ban on travel to salford and manchester. if he wants a grown—up conversation, he only has to pick up the phone, but if, as i suspect might be the case, this is more about generating a spat with me as part of some positioning in a labour leadership
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contest of the future, then i'm not interested. scotland midfielder billy gilmour tests positive for covid — and will miss the euro 2020 match with croatia tomorrow and the first person in the world to get a covid jab outside of trials — 91—year—old margaret keenan — speaks to the bbc. whatever you've said or thought before, please do have the jab. there's nothing to it, don't be afraid of a needle just to save your life and to save other�*s lives. sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, here's gavin. good afternoon. we start with a huge blow for scotland at the european championship — ahead of their fsinal group game against croatia. midfielder billy gilmour will miss the match — after testing postive for covid. it's a must—win match tomorrow, to have hope of making the knockouts. former scotland winger pat nevin
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says the worry for scotland now is whether other players will have to self—isolate becaue of gilmour�*s positive test. he will have been in contact with some _ he will have been in contact with some of— he will have been in contact with some of the players and that is what will have _ some of the players and that is what will have to — some of the players and that is what will have to be checked right now so how long _ will have to be checked right now so how long was he with these players, was he _ how long was he with these players, was he sharing a room with the player. — was he sharing a room with the player. all— was he sharing a room with the player, all these things have to be taken _ player, all these things have to be taken into— player, all these things have to be taken into account. if someone else has to— taken into account. if someone else has to isolate well, you have to make _ has to isolate well, you have to make sure _ has to isolate well, you have to make sure they're not mixing with any other— make sure they're not mixing with any other players at another team meeting _ any other players at another team meeting of the journey or whatever civet is _ meeting of the journey or whatever civet is a _ meeting of the journey or whatever civet is a real headache for stephen clarke _ civet is a real headache for stephen clarke and — civet is a real headache for stephen clarke and the scotland and not good news. _ clarke and the scotland and not good news, because if it is ten days isolation — news, because if it is ten days isolation this could be the end of his tournament. england have released a statement confirming all 26 players and the wider support team returned negative results after the latest round of testing on sunday. they've been training this morning, ahead of tomorrow night's game against the czech republic at wembley. england are second in the table, on four points and just behind the czechs on goal difference. despite defeat against italy yesterday, wales are into the last 16, and will now have a keen interest in tonight's matches. they will play the runners—up of group b — who's final matches
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kick off at 8pm tonight. before that, it's the final matches in group c, which kick off in the next half hour. the netherlands are already through — but a second automatic qualification place in the group is still up for grabs. after reaching the final at queen's, britain's cameron norrie has pulled out of eastbourne this week — as he aims to recover with wimbledon just around the corner. norrie was due to play today — but rain meant there was no action on court — and no play so far at roehampton either, with qualifying for wimbledon set to take place. persistent rain meant there was also no play on day four of the test championship final between india and new zealand in southampton. jos buttler admits that he expects to be playing for england rather than taking part in the rescheduled indian premier league this autumn as the team build up for the t20 world cup later this year in india. the ipl was postponed in may because of coronavirus but is set to be concluded in september and october — the same time that england are touring bangladesh and pakistan. england's director of cricket ashley giles has previously said that england duty will take priority
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over the ipl but if the decision was up to buttler — where would he choose to play? probably what ashley giles says, i would have thought so. those england games, you know, usually the pocket of the ipl doesn't clash with any international cricket, does it? so it makes it very easy tournament to be available for. when it clashes with international cricket, i think probably the england cricket will take precedence, won't it? john rahm insists he believed in his 'sunday mojo' to take him to victory at the us open — his first major win. he finished a shot clear of the field at torrey pines, which is where he won his first pga title in 2017. the victory also means he returns to the top of the world rankings. i've been close before, and ijust knew on a sunday, the way i had been playing on the sundays in the last few majors, ijust had to be close, and i knew i could get it done. and i am keeping a good sunday mojo going. i mean, i got it done in a fashion that apparently can only happen
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to me at torrey pines. british cyclist mark cavendish will return to the tour de france for the first time since 2018 this weekend. he's been named in the eight man squad for deceuninck quick—step after irishman sam bennett was ruled out through injury. this year's race begins on saturday. friday 5 super league game between hull kr and st helens has been postponed, after three move rovers players tested positive for covid—19 over the weekend. that follows two cases last week, and nine others have been forced to self—isolate. training has been postponed until wednesday, when another round of pcr testing will be carried out. it's the fourth fixture to be lost to the pandemic this season. that's all the sport for now but there's more on all those stories on the bbc sport website. she is, govan. many thanks for all of that. —— cheers, gavin. back in the spring, official data suggested more than a million people in the uk were suffering from long covid. the symptoms — of breathlessness and fatigue — can persist for months, and leave sufferers unable
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to return to normal life. but therapists are working to rebuild people's strength, and our correspondent graham satchell has been to one pioneering research and treatment centre, and has sent this report. cheering and applause. whenjocelyn alpas left hospital last year, she had no idea just how long it would take to recover. even just to talk was an effort for me, even just to stand. i was really breathless. very short of breath, even at rest. i was so frail, i was so ill, i was so extremely vulnerable, really. jocelyn is not alone. this is raj, leaving intensive care. bye, raj. i could not stand, my foot would just drop. there wasn't strength. i could not stand after closing my eyes, everything, body would just shake. doing so well. and done. i never imagined i had to learn to rewalk. good. well done.
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covid left raj with long lasting problems. damage to the kidney, damage to the heart, neurological damage into my legs. i still have to walk with the walking stick. jocelyn and raj have become friends. they were on the same ward at epsom hospital in surrey. staff at the hospital quickly realised patients would need work significant help with so—called long covid. there are now more than a million people in the uk, suffering work from long—term after—effects of the virus. i've seen it described as the pandemic after the pandemic. i think long covid is an umbrella term for lots of different conditions, ongoing fatigue, breathlessness, lots of impact on patients' mental health. problems with sleep, sometimes cardiac issue, and a whole range of different symptoms. the rehab programme runs for six weeks at a time. they have seen improvements in breathlessness, fatigue, mental health, quality of life.
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a year after they left hospital, jocelyn and raj are also on the mend. my mum cries every time she speaks with me, because she knows what i have gone through, and it is difficult whenever i talk to them, it is an emotional thing for me, but they have just helped me come out of it. they are my family now. jocelyn is a junior sister at the hospital where she caught covid and eventually became a patient. this programme was set up by her colleagues in the first place, specifically to help her. i am really proud of being the reason why they set up this covid rehab programme, and after six weeks of rehab, intense exercise, i was able to walk on my own. can you imagine? i was so happy. it's been a long road for raj and jocelyn, some may never fully recover. butjocelyn is now back at work, on the respiratory ward
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at epsom hospital, once again helping people to fight this virus. graham satchell, bbc news. organisers of the kendal calling musical festival in cumrbria have blamed the government's "complete absence of any guidance" for their decision to cancel the event for the second year in a row. the festival had been due to take place at the end ofjuly — after cancelling last year due to the pandemic. andy smith is one of the organisers, i asked him if he got guidance from the government... so, we knew on monday when there was a delay in the freedom day that that is a issue, but the government told us it's due to wanting to get more jabs in arms. that makes sense, we can see that data coming through every day, and we have got confidence in that. but there was also a delay, in the issuing of the guidance, and that was fundamentally what tripped us up. so, have you been trying to get the guidance?
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have you been ringing up the government and saying, "come on, what's going on here?" yes. the live industry as a whole has been. there's been meetings and the government's said it doesn't fit with their communications plan. right, ok. and let me just tell you what the department for digital, culture, media and sport are saying. they are saying, quote, "we are working flat out to support "festivals and live events and we've given £34 million to organisers "from the culture recovery fund." and also saying they're aware of wider concerns about insurance and indemnity, "we're exploring what further support may be required." so they say they're doing what they can. so, on the insurance point of view, yes, they've been looking into it. they've noticed the need and their reports have called for that insurance to come through. they're still working on it — it's not there yet. it is there other european countries. why isn't it live in the uk? big question. secondly, yes, they have distributed an amount of money. they got given £1.5 billion to distribute to cultural organisations. a very large chunk of that is still undistributed to this day.
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thirdly, kendal calling has not received a penny of that. indeed, my parent's ice cream shop has got far in excess, way more support than kendal calling, which supports the employment of 5,000 people when it's up and running, you know, on the weekend of the event. we've not had any support, so it's all well and good that they've, you know, had this sporadic distribution of relief, but i know a lot of the suppliers who are going to the wall. and this must be heartbreaking for you to have to cancel, but also for, what, 25,000 people who were due to be there? reading the social media today, it is heartbreaking. a lot of people have been looking forwards to this for so long. you know, we've all suffered through lockdown and this is something that's been a light at the end of the tunnel for a lot of people. it's notjust a weekend of frivolity and fun — it's got a bit of deeper meaning than that. so, it's been heartbreaking
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forthem, heartbreaking for suppliers, heartbreaking for musicians and heartbreaking for ourselves. last year was sad, but understandable. we were in the midst of a pandemic. this year, for the reasons that we've had to cancel, thatjust makes me quite angry, i'll be honest. that was andy smith, one of the organisers of kendal calling, a festival which has had to be cancelled for the second year running. the new zealand weightlifter, laurel hubbard, is set to become the first transgender athlete to compete at the olympics. the country's olympic committee has named her as part of the women's team for the tokyo games. here's our correspondent, phil mercer. sport is all about pushing boundaries, and that's certainly what laurel hubbard will be doing at the tokyo olympics. she will be the first transgender athlete to compete at the games. she has satisfied domestic and international criteria. she was competing in men's events until she transitioned in 2012, and she's had a pretty decorated career for new zealand. back in 2017, she won a silver medal at the world championships. she thought her career was over
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at the commonwealth games, a year later in 2018, when she broke her arm. but she's back to full fitness and back in the squad. the new zealand olympic officials are very cognisant of the fact that gender identity, in their words, is a very sensitive and complex issue in sport that requires a balance between human rights and the need for fairness in the field of play. there will be those who disapprove of her selection, but as far as the athlete herself is concerned, she said in a statement that she was humbled and that she was grateful. i think that the first thing we have to start with when we talk about transgender athletes and sport is that trans women are women and trans men are men and i think oftentimes when we talk
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about this people are, quote, "displacing" other athletes and the reality is that when somebody wins it doesn't matter what their gender identity or gender background is, when they when they are absolutely displacing somebody else because that is what meaning means, right? and cis women displays other cis women all the time when they win and trans women are women and sometimes they are also going to win. but the point nicola williams was talking about was about the numerous physical advantages from growing up male, testosterone and so on. sure, and i think, you know, i'm not a testosterone expert, i want to be really clear on that and i also know that biological differences in sport are many, especially within cis women and here's the thing and this is where sexism and misogyny and also racism also come into play. if you look at a white man such as michael phelps, when he has a biological advantage such as having half the levels of anaphylactic acid that the typical athlete produces people praise him, the olympic committee praises him as a superior genetic specimen, but when women have any kind of difference
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within their bodies it's considered unfair, and this isn't specific to transgender women. we see this all the time. serena williams has been policed multiple times and this happens often more with black women specifically. serena williams is not a trans women and has been called a man all the time because of how her body looks and how she is good at sport. so, this is not new. this is the continued policing of black and brown women's bodies in sport which is also spilling over to other marginalised groups such as trans women. there is a lot of controversy over laurel hubbard, as you know. donald trumpjunior has said that the selection is ridiculous. piers morgan has said that women's rights are being destroyed on the altar of political correctness. yeah, i have to be really clear with you. i don't think either of these people are experts in sport so i don't think their words matter in the space expect to be blatantly trans phobic and blatantly unkind. tell is a bit more about your story. i'm the first transgender athlete
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to compete for division one men's team and i'm a korean—american transgender man. swimming and ompeting in sports has been an absolute central part of my life and being able to compete in spots of the gender identity that identify with absolutely saved my life. i think sports are a fundamental human rights that children should absolutely be allowed to participate in and when we get lost in all these rules they impact children. right now, in the us, there are over 100 bills that are attacking trans people specifically and many specifically in sports trying to remove children from competing in sport and i think trans kids absolutely deserve to play and there should be no genital exams, for example, which many states are proposing right now, on kids. there is no reason for that. trans kids as well should be allowed to play. do you see yourself as a pioneer? i do and i don't. i am a pioneer by definition but i'm also just a kid who wanted to play my sport and was privileged to be allowed to do that
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but it should not be a privilege for me to be allowed to swim. so that is the author and activist skyler baylor, the first transgender athlete on an american collegiate men's team. the headlines on bbc news... a public inquiry into the contaminated blood scandal hears how dozens of pupils at a school for disabled children died — after being given infected blood products to treat them for haemophilia. doctors and nhs trusts have warned ministers that they need to start planning now if they want to roll out a covid vaccine booster programme in the autumn. nicola sturgeon accuses the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, of playing politics in a row over a scottish government ban on travel to salford and manchester. spain's prime minister, pedro sanchez, has confirmed controversial plans to pardon nine jailed catalan separatist leaders, saying he'll put this to his cabinet on tuesday.
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he made the announcement at conference on the future of spain in catalonia's capital, barcelona. translation: this is what the s - anish translation: this is what the spanish government _ translation: this is what the spanish government has i translation: this is what the i spanish government has decided. translation: this is what the - spanish government has decided. to face the problem, to look for agreement. so, tomorrow, keeping in mind the harmonious spirit of the constitution i will propose to the cabinet to grant clemency to the nine business. —— prisoners. guy hedgecoe is in madrid and explained how significant this announcement is. mr sanchez has been talking about this decision for some weeks now and we have been expecting him to make this decision in favour of approving the patterns but the right—wing opposition has been very fiercely opposing the idea of these pardons saying that the nine prisoners who he plans to part and should serve out the entirety of their sentences which run from nine to 13 years. they say that the severity of the kind that they committed, they were found guilty of, which is sedition, is such that they should serve out
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the sentences. and the opposition also says that pedro sanchez is only doing this because he needs the support of a number of catalan nationalists in the spanish parliament in order to keep his government together, in order to approve legislation. now, pedro sanchez says that's not why he's doing this, he's doing this at the right reasons, competitors of any conservation decision. —— but it is a very controversial decision. ethiopians are voting in delayed regional and parliamentary elections, despite worsening ethnic tensions as well as conflict and famine in the north of the country. nearly a fifth of the constituencies are not taking part because of insecurity. they include the whole of the tigray region, where civil war broke out in november, leading to a humanitarian crisis. the vote will be the first electoral test for ethiopia's prime minister, abiy ahmed, and his prosperity party, since he took office in 2018. here he is casting his vote. the elections were to have been held
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was an operational fighter pilot for ten years. she was with three other pilots on a routine training flight when they witnessed an unidentified object in the skies off the coast of southern california — now known as tic—tac, due to its resemblance to the mints. it was travelling very fast and very erratically, and we couldn't anticipate which way it was going to turn, or couldn't understand how it was manoeuvring the way that it was or the propulsion system. this official footage from the us department of defense, published for the first time in 2017, totally changed the debate surrounding ufos. reports of strange objects in the sky that were once ridiculed are now seen as having potentially serious national security implications. leslie kean, who broke that story, says the stigma attached was intentional.
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there was a actual, sort of, a policy to use ridicule to kind of damp the whole thing down — that goes back to the '505, and it became just part of a culture and since then, we were just kind of left with this attitude of ridicule and the culture, and we weren't hearing anything about it from our government. not only was that damaging to witnesses but also — say some who spent years working inside the pentagon — to security. this is a mammoth intelligence failure. we haven't suffered the consequences we did in pearl harbor and 9/11, but the problems are precisely the same. you had a radar operator seeing japanese bombers and fighters approaching. he didn't report it to anybody, the information didn't get up the chain. 9/11, we had cia and fbi not talking and not sharing information. in this case, it's worse — we've got more like ten agencies not talking and sharing information. we travelled to area 51, a military base deep in the nevada desert, which — like what the us government knows about ufos — is shrouded in secrecy. some believe — though have no evidence — that a ufo
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is being reverse—engineered behind the gates few have clearance to enter. those who've been mocked for monitoring the skies here, convinced we're not alone, now feel vindicated. the ufo community has been seeking disclosure for 50—plus years or more, and i think this is a good step forward for the ufo community, for the government to acknowledge the existence of the phenomenon, and let people know that there's something going on out there on a regular basis. whatever its conclusions, for many, publication of the report alone marks an important milestone on the path to understanding these unexplained encounters. sophie long, bbc news, in the nevada desert.
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now, some pictures to show you — from the seventh international day of yoga — that people have been celebrating. indian troops and border patrol guards, have been putting on a show in various locations. despite the searing heat, indian soldiers near the border with pakistan — in the northern state of rajasthan — marked the day with a group session. they also braved the numbing cold, of the himalayan glaciers near the border with tibet to do some controlled deep breathing. this was the scene — on the relatively quieter border with bangladesh. the ancient tradition of yoga was once the preserve of gurus but now a worldwide phenomenon. the un declared june 2ist as the international day of yoga. this was times square in new york — with all—day yoga event, to celebrate the summer solstice. though the event is a little muted this year — because of covid — people have been practising
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on the beaches of gaza on moving trains in mumbai here's a few more pictures. some postures are more challenging than others. frankly, they are all challenging to me, but well done all those people. fantastic yoga. you could yoga, veto? i think you might be. we'll find out later. she is doing the news at five and shall properly tell us whether she's good at yoga. now it's time for a look at the weather with nick miller. it's maybe the summer solstice but thatis it's maybe the summer solstice but that is no guarantee of summer like weather although in scotland where on the solstice we have the most daylight hours we have got some sunshine and you may catch a bus on show in the highlands but in southern england gets more rain to add to the growing june rainfall
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totals and these low—pressure front with the rain and high pressure has no sugar scotland and northern ireland where we are seeing most of the summer solstice sunshine today, again, just a passing shower in the highlands. in northern england, the supplied, like meaning drizzle passing further south into the midlands and parts of wales that may have just seen a bit of sunshine so far today but the heaviest rain city across southern england, certain parts of east anglia and temperatures really struggling, just ran 12 celsius for some today, northerly wind even when you have the sunshine, high teens of the highest temperature, not particularly warm in that wind direction even when you have blue sky. still some outbreaks of rain for parts of england and wales this evening and tonight, coming into south—east england by morning. elsewhere tonight it is vital becoming dry where you have the clear skies, lower temperatures, and, in scotland, some spots in scotland, some spots on the clear skies, lower temperatures, and, scotland, some spots on the clear skies, lowertemperatures, and, in scotland, some spots in ireland may end up close of frost going into tuesday morning. how is that late june? but some sunshine here. in fact, for many it will be a dry day on sunny spells. light rain and
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drizzle still lingering to the far south—east of england, claiming late afternoon, but cloud increasing in north—west scotland and northern ireland so here you will get some outbreaks of rain moving in as the day goes on. they have going to feel warmer tomorrow compared with today. it is the next weather system, then. this one is not coming in from the south, which is claiming way, this one coming in from the north—west and ireland on wednesday will see most of the cloud and some outbreaks of rain. low cloud at that, so some mist around the coasts and hills too. some cloud increasing its northern england and wales but much of southern england, the midlands and into east anglia will stay dry with some sunshine and this is where we'll see see the highest temperatures on wednesday. a selection of location showing a flavour thing is for the rest into the weekend. basically refers to what we have now. if you are starting week with rain it is going to turn brighter and warmer. drier, too. if you're starting the day with sunshine you can expect more cloud and little rain.
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this is bbc news. the headlines: the public inquiry into the contaminated blood scandal hears how dozens of pupils at a school for disabled children died — after being given infected blood products to treat them for haemophilia. the stigma, losing 72 friends, school friends, who you have known since you were that high. school friends, who you have known ministers are warned that they need to start planning now if they want to roll out a covid vaccine booster programme in the autumn. meanwhile, the prime minister says that it is 'looking good' for the lifting of restrictions in england to go ahead onjuly 19th. nicola sturgeon accuses the mayor
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