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thus hello. this is bbc news with me, lukwesa burak. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment. first, the headlines. borisjohnson prepares to outline plans to lift lockdown in england. more than 20 million people watched england's brilliant night in rome —
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as they thrashed ukraine, and moved onto the semi—finals of the euros. ministers extend the period in which legal action can be taken against housing developers in light of the cladding crisis. from retail to real estate — john lewis outlines plans to build hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are parliamentaryjournalist tony grew and journalist and broadcaster caroline frost. lovely to have you back. a quick look at some of the front pages. the mail leads on the government's plans forjuly 19th in england — the paper
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says that tomorrow the prime minister will declare it's time to restore personal freedoms, and will argue that we need to learn to live with covid as we do with flu. you have to excuse the blank space at the top of the page because it the paper is leading with a story that has been embargoed. a good news story, though, which we will reveal after midnight. "use yourjudgement on masks" continues the telegraph — which says borisjohnson will tell the public that they will no longer be bound by covid laws on face masks and social distancing but should instead exercise their own judgment. the guardian reports on the backlash from scientists over the planned lifting of restrictions as government scientific advisers warn that lifting lockdown will be like building "new variant factories". "mobile ban planned for schools injanuary" — is the headline in the i,
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as ministers aim to eradicate mobile phones in classrooms by 2022. the paper reports that the children s commissioner backs the move, saying, "wi—fi connectable devices are a �*distraction”'. on the front page of the independent, dozens dead in phillippine air crash — the paper reports on rescue teams searching for survivors after a military aircraft missed the runway, killing at least 45 people. the sun looks ahead to england's semi—final match in euro 2020 on wednesday — as england legend stuart pearce says he thinks the current england squad is better than his euro �*96 side. and on the front page of the mirror — "swim when you're winning" — england stars declan rice and bukayo saka in the pool yesterday riding inflatable unicorns. so, let's begin.
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ternet, you're going to talk about the front page of the daily telegraph, use yourjudgment on masks, says the prime minister. the prime minister is due to make one of his press— prime minister is due to make one of his press conferences tomorrow at 5pm _ his press conferences tomorrow at 5pm there — his press conferences tomorrow at 5pm. there will be a statement in the commons which is significant because — the commons which is significant because last time the government announced changes it was announcing the extension of restrictions, and the extension of restrictions, and the common speaker blew a gasket, i have never— the common speaker blew a gasket, i have never seen him so angry as when government— have never seen him so angry as when government made this an aspect of the country— government made this an aspect of the country and not parliament first, _ the country and not parliament first, so — the country and not parliament first, so it _ the country and not parliament first, so it will be announced to parliament and the country simultaneously and it is expected to announce _ simultaneously and it is expected to announce that many of the restrictions that we live under will be removed. there is still some talk about— be removed. there is still some talk about whether or not people want to wear masks. that will be their choice. — wear masks. that will be their choice. a _ wear masks. that will be their choice, a personal choice, it will no longer— choice, a personal choice, it will no longer be mandated by the law. caroline, _ no longer be mandated by the law. caroline, using yourjudgment, what do you make of that, the public
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having to police themselves. this is a pandemic, a global health crisis. fortunately we have all got used to that kind of behaviour, it has become almost second nature to get the hand sanitiser out i reach for the hand sanitiser out i reach for the facemasks, and it is amazing how neuro plastic our brains are faced with these conditions, but in a way this kind of social behaviour that borisjohnson is referring to is reflected in his own cabinet. we have a mixture of hawks and doves, those who are very pro lockdown and want to stay as safe as possible represented by his now departed health minister matt hancock, and those, the more balanced view of we need the economy to thrive, we need social lives to thrive, what is the point of being healthy if we are all locked up behind our own castle walls? so that is really going to be reflected in how people react to this. there will still be people who are firmly adopting masks untiljust whenever they want to and will feel
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safe whilst i would think the majority will be ready to dispense with masks. they are not nice, they steam up, my glasses when i go in anywhere so i have to stay at home, that's just one person and i think people will be happy to leave them behind. ., , ., a, behind. tony, returning to the mail, the tory backbenchers _ behind. tony, returning to the mail, the tory backbenchers will— behind. tony, returning to the mail, the tory backbenchers will be - behind. tony, returning to the mail, the tory backbenchers will be happy| the tory backbenchers will be happy at this. it the tory backbenchers will be happy at this. , ., ., at this. it is important to understand _ at this. it is important to understand that - at this. it is important to understand that what - at this. it is important to understand that what we at this. it is important to - understand that what we have at this. it is important to _ understand that what we have seen in the last_ understand that what we have seen in the test 15_ understand that what we have seen in the last 15 months has been the most breathtaking deprivation of civil liberties — breathtaking deprivation of civil liberties. the government has been able to— liberties. the government has been able to achieve that because it has had the _ able to achieve that because it has had the support of the labour party pretty— had the support of the labour party pretty much the whole way through. we need _ pretty much the whole way through. we need to remind ourselves that we live in— we need to remind ourselves that we live in a _ we need to remind ourselves that we live in a country where the government effectively ordered people — government effectively ordered people to stay at home, ordered people _ people to stay at home, ordered pe0pte to — people to stay at home, ordered people to wear masks on public transport, — people to wear masks on public transport, and that has to end at some _ transport, and that has to end at some point. there is a balance to be struck _ some point. there is a balance to be struck. everything we do in life carries— struck. everything we do in life carries risk~ _ struck. everything we do in life carries risk. the government's attitude — carries risk. the government's attitude now, considering that vast swathes— attitude now, considering that vast swathes of the population have been vaccinated, particularly the most
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vulnerable groups have been vaccinated, and in the vulnerable groups— vaccinated, and in the vulnerable groups it — vaccinated, and in the vulnerable groups it is — vaccinated, and in the vulnerable groups it is 95%, i think now is the time _ groups it is 95%, i think now is the time we _ groups it is 95%, i think now is the time we need to make our calculation, but i think people do need _ calculation, but i think people do need to— calculation, but i think people do need to take personal responsibility for their— need to take personal responsibility for their behaviour but also need to think— for their behaviour but also need to think about — for their behaviour but also need to think about how they might affect others _ think about how they might affect others. there is a rise in cases. that— others. there is a rise in cases. that is— others. there is a rise in cases. that is obviously concerning. but the government has to think beyond 'ust the government has to think beyond just what— the government has to think beyond just what scientists think but also the effect on education and business and health— the effect on education and business and health care, there are 5 million people _ and health care, there are 5 million people in— and health care, there are 5 million people in england talk, on waiting lists, _ people in england talk, on waiting lists, that — people in england talk, on waiting lists, that is the highest number of people _ lists, that is the highest number of people there have ever been on waiting — people there have ever been on waiting lists, so there are other factors— waiting lists, so there are other factors at— waiting lists, so there are other factors at play and this is the right— factors at play and this is the right cati— factors at play and this is the right call by the government. it is that ability to _ right call by the government. it 3 that ability to plan for businesses, caroline, which will be so helpful. it has been grim, the last 12 months, since we got over the not —— the novelty of lockdown and felt the government for making the right decisions because of the shock of covid but a hospitality industry in
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particular, opening and closing again, all sorts of arbitrary rules that leave people very frustrated, the table is at the door, the doors are open but we still have to sit outside, these random things that are making people stay away, and thatis are making people stay away, and that is before the rules say coming back and eat takeaways, so profits diving and their ability to plan and they are lucky the ones that still have a business to even open again. it will be the smaller businesses that have been lucky to make it through. the bigger ones have a bigger buffer on upon which to draw in such times, but those smaller businesses, i hope that they can find their way through of reinventing themselves and adapting to this next chapter in opening up. as we turn to the front page of the guardian, tony, scientists are not happy about this. we saw the indication from chris mason of what we are likely to hear tomorrow. they are asking for data. the 12th of
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july is when we will know for sure what is going on. what exactly are the scientists unhappy about? scientists are concerned as we proceed — scientists are concerned as we proceed along the road to unlocking that there _ proceed along the road to unlocking that there will be new variants that ntight— that there will be new variants that might well come along. but the job of scientist is to advise, that is their— of scientist is to advise, that is theirjob, — of scientist is to advise, that is theirjob, it— of scientist is to advise, that is theirjob, it is not theirjob to make — theirjob, it is not theirjob to make decisions and that is because they are _ make decisions and that is because they are responsible for the science, _ they are responsible for the science, the government is responsible for the entire economy, the nhs, _ responsible for the entire economy, the nhs, the government has to make a decision _ the nhs, the government has to make a decision it _ the nhs, the government has to make a decision. it will listen to the science, — a decision. it will listen to the science, but we cannot continue to make _ science, but we cannot continue to make decisions that are only led by scientific— make decisions that are only led by scientific predictions, by the way. the government has to take a much more _ the government has to take a much more rounded view of how this affects — more rounded view of how this affects att— more rounded view of how this affects all of society but for me it is schoois. — affects all of society but for me it is schools, the nhs, and businesses which _ is schools, the nhs, and businesses which are _ is schools, the nhs, and businesses which are the most affected and like i which are the most affected and like i said _ which are the most affected and like i said the _ which are the most affected and like i said the job of government is to make _ i said the job of government is to make decisions, because frankly, these _ make decisions, because frankly, these scientists are not going to be held responsible, the government will, so _ held responsible, the government wiii, so it— held responsible, the government will, so it is right that the government makes decisions, they
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will take _ government makes decisions, they will take into account what scientists say but i cannot make decisions — scientists say but i cannot make decisions based only on that. caitan. — decisions based only on that. callan, the figures on cases and mothers will get interesting because the data heading towards winter, flu transmission has been suppressed. it shows how communicable diseases are, but that data in winter is going to be interesting. it but that data in winter is going to be interesting.— be interesting. it will be the moment of _ be interesting. it will be the moment of truth, _ be interesting. it will be the moment of truth, isn't - be interesting. it will be the moment of truth, isn't it? l be interesting. it will be the i moment of truth, isn't it? the be interesting. it will be the - moment of truth, isn't it? the one thing on top of the wave that may come back to us in the form of variants is the fact that people have not had their immunity to flu somewhat compromised by not having had it for so long, not having had these germs that poster and bizarrely fortify us that is another factor into the data, which could be a surge in flu that we are not used to seeing. i totally agree with what tony said. the only thing i would add is a caveat is that the scientists have had a very good pandemic in the of public facing, especially last year, the scientists
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were trusted more than some of the politicians, particularly when we felt that the government, particular figures were letting us down, but the scientists have been consistent all the way through even with the voices of doom that they were labelled with, but increasingly, as tony has outlined, it is the case that we realise that they only represent one part of the big pile of decisions making that the government has to take on, but certainly they have given themselves this opt out, one week from today, the data will tell the tale, and borisjohnson, one of his clever tactics in presenting this to the public has been the data, not the date, so we have this one final door of freedom to unlock in a fortnight, but even then, the data needs to help us on our way to that dawn. before we move off the subject, to tune in tomorrow to the prime minister, if you think that the booster will help you, it seems that it is only those aged 50 or over
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that are going to be offered the boosterjab, and the vulnerable as well. let's turn to the front page of the i, this mobile phone ban in schools forjanuary. sign up right would imagine that in many schools already they are banned. this is the government in england, education is a devolved matter in scotland and northern ireland so this applies just in england.— northern ireland so this applies just in england. some parents like bein: able just in england. some parents like being able to _ just in england. some parents like being able to contact _ just in england. some parents like being able to contact their- just in england. some parents like| being able to contact their children at any— being able to contact their children at any time but on balance it is probably— at any time but on balance it is probably a _ at any time but on balance it is probably a very bad idea that kids have mobile phones in school. it will be _ have mobile phones in school. it will be interesting because if you have _ will be interesting because if you have 1000 pupils, if they all turned up have 1000 pupils, if they all turned up at _ have 1000 pupils, if they all turned up at school with mobile phones, will they— up at school with mobile phones, will they be told to put them in their— will they be told to put them in their locker, orwillthe will they be told to put them in their locker, or will the schools take _ their locker, or will the schools take them _ their locker, or will the schools take them and give them back at the end of— take them and give them back at the end of the _ take them and give them back at the end of the day? i can see some iogisticai— end of the day? i can see some logistical issues but overall, it is a no—brainer, as faras i'm concerned _
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a no-brainer, as far as i'm concerned-— a no-brainer, as far as i'm concerned.- it - a no-brainer, as far as i'm| concerned.- it will a no-brainer, as far as i'm - concerned.- it will be like concerned. caroline. it will be like one of those _ concerned. caroline. it will be like one of those rock _ concerned. caroline. it will be like one of those rock concerts - concerned. caroline. it will be like one of those rock concerts where l concerned. caroline. it will be like i one of those rock concerts where you have to hand your phone over, and there was a long queue after the gig and one gets fed up, but i am amazed that it has taken this long. ijust cannot think of a reason to argue against it. i'm trying to think. some lessons are, teachers have taken to using the device as a one method of learning or having to learn as a learning tool, but that is them having to make lemonade out of the lemmens of having these mobile phones everywhere, but i am just so glad that mobile phones were not an issue when i was at school. school is hard enough in terms of your development, personal development, education, plus all of the social aspects, the growing pains you're going through and i'm so glad i didn't have an mobile phone to add to that when i was going. phone to add to that when i was anoin. , phone to add to that when i was hoin _ , , , , phone to add to that when i was anoin. , , , , ., phone to add to that when i was rroin. ,, ,, ., going. very stressful for everybody. let's turn to — going. very stressful for everybody. let's turn to the _ going. very stressful for everybody. let's turn to the front _ going. very stressful for everybody. let's turn to the front page - going. very stressful for everybody. let's turn to the front page of- going. very stressful for everybody. let's turn to the front page of the i let's turn to the front page of the mirror. it is england and it is
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football, we have some of the players celebrating, swim when you are winning, ternet. i players celebrating, swim when you are winning, ternet.— are winning, ternet. i have no idea what is going _ are winning, ternet. i have no idea what is going on! _ are winning, ternet. i have no idea what is going on! why _ are winning, ternet. i have no idea what is going on! why they - are winning, ternet. i have no idea what is going on! why they are - what is going on! why they are riding — what is going on! why they are riding unicorns. is it a brexit analogy? _ riding unicorns. is it a brexit analogy? i— riding unicorns. is it a brexit analogy? i don't understand. they all analogy? idon't understand. they all that— analogy? i don't understand. they all that very happy. it is very confusing _ all that very happy. it is very confusing. but it is a jolly front page! — confusing. but it is a “olly front nae! ., ., .,~' confusing. but it is a “olly front nae! ., ., ., page! carol, i will take you to the front page _ page! carol, i will take you to the front page of _ page! carol, i will take you to the front page of the _ page! carol, i will take you to the front page of the sun. _ page! carol, i will take you to the front page of the sun. so - page! carol, i will take you to the front page of the sun. so many i front page of the sun. so many comments on this yesterday saying that this team is a tight team, and there have been comparisons to 1996. yes and it is really nice, we've had so many years of focusing on one or two star players, normally the striker, and of course harry kane has come through, he got a lot of bad press, but it is amazing the turnaround, from a bunch of captain hindsights, in the coming pages, they were not saying that a fortnight ago, i'm not an expert, but i know when there is a u—turn in
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the offing, but there is a lot of appreciation for gareth southgate, and he has been on an amazing roller—coaster now because of his errors in 96, which provides a beautiful narrative to ken for this, but i really like the way that people are responding to his leadership, saying that they were she was in the cabinet, of course they are saying that, but i am really liking that, that it is not all about the wags, we know that football has brought with it, and he seeing enough of all that, let's go back to almost old school preparation, it isjust back to almost old school preparation, it is just about the team as one unity, and we are seeing the fruits of that now on the pitch. it has been a while, caroline, since we heard the term, wags! thank you both, caroline frost, tony grew, thank you for sharing your sunday evening with us on bbc news. and thank you forjoining us. from all

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