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this is bbc news. the headlines: fears are rising in afghanistan about the deteriorating security situation as nato�*s withdrawal nears completion. local troops are now guarding bagram air base, but reports of taliban advances have heightened concern about an afghan military collapse. russia, iran and turkey have suspended work at their consulates in the afghan city of mazar—i—sharif as the taliban make advances across the region. over a thousand afghan soldiers have been forced to flee across the border into tajikistan. gunmen in nigeria have kidnapped at least 140 schoolchildren in the north—west of the country. nurses and babies have also been abducted from a hospital in kaduna state. the uk prime minister, borisjohnson, has confirmed that virtually all coronavirus restrictions, including mask—wearing and social distancing, will end in two weeks�* time.
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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me arejenny kleeman, the times radio presenter, and michael booker, who is the deputy editor at the daily express. very good evening to you both. much to show you what's on the front pages. the guardian leads on how covid restrictions are set to go very soon as borisjohnson said it will be left up to the individual. boris rolls the dice is the headline on the front page of the metro. he has confirmed that all covid restrictions, including mask wearing a social distancing, should end in two weeks. the financial times leads
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on the news that covid restrictions will soon be gone in england, but the labour leader has said it's reckless because cases are continuing to rise. it's now or never — that's the headline on the front page of the telegraph. boris johnson said there is growing confidence in government that vaccines stop serious illness and death. on the front page of the times, it says now is the right time and details of the prime minister is set to lift restrictions onjuly the set to lift restrictions on july the 19th. let's start off with the metro. is it a gamble, do you think? {iii with the metro. is it a gamble, do ou think? u, , with the metro. is it a gamble, do you think?— you think? of course. we are outliers when _ you think? of course. we are outliers when it _ you think? of course. we are outliers when it comes - you think? of course. we are outliers when it comes to - you think? of course. we are - outliers when it comes to comparing us to other countries. we're the only ones who are going to be lifting pretty much all restrictions, but none of this is very much a surprise. we kind of knew this was coming. this is the end of compulsion. whilst it's kind of amazing that in this current
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environment, you get rules like choirs can scene without restriction, and it is not legal to go off and order a drink at the bar. these are the times that we are now living in. the big risk is personal judgment. we all need to assess what we consider is safe behaviour. but that's not necessarily a cut and dry thing. what's safe to the individual might not be safer society. we have all been about other people during this pandemic, particularly looking at a disease that can kill certain members of the population quite easily, where others might have absolutely no symptoms at all. so it's not very clear cut what this personal judgment it's not very clear cut what this personaljudgment is. we're entering a grey area at the moment.— a grey area at the moment. michael booker, is a grey area at the moment. michael booker. is this _ a grey area at the moment. michael booker, is this boris _ a grey area at the moment. michael booker, is this boris johnson - booker, is this borisjohnson following his libertarian instincts? yeah, i think that's part of that.
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he did _ yeah, i think that's part of that. he did seem fairly confident. he did seem _ he did seem fairly confident. he did seem slightly downbeat during the press _ seem slightly downbeat during the press conference today because he did spell— press conference today because he did spell out that he would still wear_ did spell out that he would still wear masks in certain circumstances. he was_ wear masks in certain circumstances. he was talking about how there will be this_ he was talking about how there will be this rise — he was talking about how there will be this rise in infections, there will be — be this rise in infections, there will be rises and deaths, but i think— will be rises and deaths, but i think at— will be rises and deaths, but i think at some point, we have to start_ think at some point, we have to start learning to live with this disease _ start learning to live with this disease. we've been told this a number— disease. we've been told this a number of— disease. we've been told this a number of times. as he said in the press _ number of times. as he said in the press conference, there will never be some _ press conference, there will never be some ideal time. this is the only time to— be some ideal time. this is the only time to do— be some ideal time. this is the only time to do it. — be some ideal time. this is the only time to do it, otherwise we push that back— time to do it, otherwise we push that back into the winter, where he says the _ that back into the winter, where he says the virus has an advantage. or we never_ says the virus has an advantage. or we never do — says the virus has an advantage. or we never do. ithink looking says the virus has an advantage. or we never do. i think looking at it, we never do. i think looking at it, we want — we never do. i think looking at it, we want to— we never do. i think looking at it, we want to return to being a free society, — we want to return to being a free society, and this is the chance to do it _ society, and this is the chance to do it as — society, and this is the chance to do it. asjenny says, this is a grey area _ do it. asjenny says, this is a grey area it's — do it. asjenny says, this is a grey area. it's almost an experiment and the rest _ area. it's almost an experiment and the rest of— area. it's almost an experiment and the rest of the world is looking at it. the rest of the world is looking at it we _ the rest of the world is looking at it we have — the rest of the world is looking at it. we have had a very successful vaccination — it. we have had a very successful vaccination campaign. it does seem to he _ vaccination campaign. it does seem to be working. they will be speeding up to be working. they will be speeding up the _ to be working. they will be speeding up the double jabbing as well, so
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that's— up the double jabbing as well, so that's going to carry on. yes, i think— that's going to carry on. yes, i think it — that's going to carry on. yes, i think it is _ that's going to carry on. yes, i think it is part of his libertarian instincts. — think it is part of his libertarian instincts, but remember last year, people _ instincts, but remember last year, people in— instincts, but remember last year, people in downing street saying how surprised _ people in downing street saying how surprised people were following the rules _ surprised people were following the rules~ i_ surprised people were following the rules. i think it goes to the heart of the _ rules. i think it goes to the heart of the front— rules. i think it goes to the heart of the front pages as well because it's not— of the front pages as well because it's not exactly celebratory about freedom — it's not exactly celebratory about freedom day coming up, and i think this reflects the society. we have been _ this reflects the society. we have been changed, we are cautious and i think— been changed, we are cautious and i think that _ been changed, we are cautious and i think that common sense doesn't equal— think that common sense doesn't equal recklessness. i think we've learned _ equal recklessness. i think we've learned not to be reckless, and i'd be very— learned not to be reckless, and i'd be very surprised that when the 19th comes— be very surprised that when the 19th comes around, all of us suddenly change _ comes around, all of us suddenly change our— comes around, all of us suddenly change our behaviours. we are at a lot of— change our behaviours. we are at a lot of anxiety, so it's not immediately going to be everyone jumping _ immediately going to be everyone jumping around hugging each other. actually, _ jumping around hugging each other. actually, it's going to be very much bound to the individual, especially in terms of wearing facemasks. let's just
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look at the front page on the i, focusing on the mass issue. unions have been expressing their alarm about this. they've been saying you as a customer, you might pop into a shop, but you're a shop worker, you're there all day. and a lot of them are quite alarmed of the prospect of loss of customers coming in without masks.— in without masks. absolutely. there are many other _ in without masks. absolutely. there are many other populations - in without masks. absolutely. there are many other populations are - in without masks. absolutely. there l are many other populations are going to be really worried about this. there are clinically vulnerable groups that can't have vaccines. i know people have blood cancers, and they're very concerned about this at they're very concerned about this at the moment. so it's a weighing up of things. a decision has been made that the majority are going to have certain freedoms and certain things will be optional, which is going to be difficult for a minority of people. i think the i goes into this, most of the papers quote this if not now, then when an idea from
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borisjohnson. but there is a win, which is in september, when all adults will have been offered both jabs. the idea that we have to do this now, otherwise we will be pushing it into the winter, it's not going to be incredibly cold. we don't have to do it now. this is in many ways boris johnson don't have to do it now. this is in many ways borisjohnson reacting to the incredible pressure he's under from his anti—lockdown backbenchers, many of whom wanted restrictions to be lifted at the very first opportunity. this is a political decision. it opportunity. this is a political decision. , , �*, ., decision. it is, but he's already dela ed decision. it is, but he's already delayed it _ decision. it is, but he's already delayed it from _ decision. it is, but he's already delayed it from june. - decision. it is, but he's already delayed it from june. michael, | decision. it is, but he's already . delayed it from june. michael, the issue of masks is quite interesting, watching cabinet ministers talking about what they personally will do. some of them saying as soon as it is not compulsory, they'll be happy to throw away their masks. it is going to be very much down to the individual. whether you wear the
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mask, what would you be doing? is that your instinct to chuck it in the been? i that your instinct to chuck it in the been?— that your instinct to chuck it in the been? ~' �* ., ., ,, , the been? i think i'm going to keep on, if the been? i think i'm going to keep on. if there — the been? i think i'm going to keep on, if there are _ the been? i think i'm going to keep on, if there are people _ the been? i think i'm going to keep on, if there are people who - the been? i think i'm going to keep on, if there are people who you - the been? i think i'm going to keepj on, if there are people who you can see if— on, if there are people who you can see if you're — on, if there are people who you can see if you're in a crowded area and people _ see if you're in a crowded area and people are — see if you're in a crowded area and people are scott —— coughing, i think— people are scott —— coughing, i think these people will put some mask— think these people will put some mask on — think these people will put some mask on. it's not something, there will he _ mask on. it's not something, there will be some — mask on. it's not something, there will be some big mask burning day, i don't _ will be some big mask burning day, i don't think — will be some big mask burning day, i don't think. looking around where i live, today, — don't think. looking around where i live, today, i— don't think. looking around where i live, today, i saw lots of people wearing — live, today, i saw lots of people wearing masks in the open air. that's— wearing masks in the open air. that's never been mandated. you can see it _ that's never been mandated. you can see it has _ that's never been mandated. you can see it has changed our behaviour. i do think— see it has changed our behaviour. i do think we — see it has changed our behaviour. i do think we can rely on people to make _ do think we can rely on people to make up— do think we can rely on people to make up their minds on this. i think we will— make up their minds on this. i think we will still — make up their minds on this. i think we will still see lots of people wearing — we will still see lots of people wearing masks, both inside and outside — wearing masks, both inside and outside a — wearing masks, both inside and outside. a lot of these people have suffered _ outside. a lot of these people have suffered losses themselves. i think sometimes we treat people a bit stupid, _ sometimes we treat people a bit stupid, and i think we can'tjust think— stupid, and i think we can'tjust think this — stupid, and i think we can'tjust think this bovine herd will listen to a couple of mps and then rip off
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their masks, we have changed. and i think— their masks, we have changed. and i think the _ their masks, we have changed. and i think the behaviour has changed. i would _ think the behaviour has changed. i would he _ think the behaviour has changed. i would be very surprised to see all the masks — would be very surprised to see all the masks come off on that day because — the masks come off on that day because i— the masks come off on that day because i think people do understand and they— because i think people do understand and they have this responsibility to others _ and they have this responsibility to others now, and we aren't out of the woods _ others now, and we aren't out of the woods there — others now, and we aren't out of the woods. there is rising infections. so i woods. there is rising infections. so i think— woods. there is rising infections. so i think the british people should be so i think the british people should he given— so i think the british people should be given a — so i think the british people should be given a bit of credit to be able to come — be given a bit of credit to be able to come out of this very cautiously. let's _ to come out of this very cautiously. let's have — to come out of this very cautiously. let's have a — to come out of this very cautiously. let's have a look at the guardian. johnson sweeps away restrictions. focusing on what keir starmer was saying, accusing borisjohnson of being reckless. what do you think of labour's position on this? i what do you think of labour's position on this?— what do you think of labour's position on this? i think there was somethin: position on this? i think there was something about, _ position on this? i think there was something about, maybe - position on this? i think there was something about, maybe it's - position on this? i think there was something about, maybe it's the i something about, maybe it's the batley and spen by—election he seems to be coming out of fighting. his point, which is a good point, but the one thing we know, the one restriction will be remaining is the
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compulsion to stay—at—home if you test positive. still the government, even though many, many different bodies, advisers have set up a critical factor is to have a better package to compensate people to stay at home. there's been no measures, improvements to those packages, and if he's really serious about keeping people safe, not the one thing we know really is affected, people who have covid to stay away from the rest of us. but it was interesting to see his response. i think keir starmer is in a difficult position because there's only so much other people are wary and weary of all of this. and desperately looking for a way out. but there was no sense of this is freedom day, there was no triumphalism about it. i would agree with nick on that.
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johnson brushes aside warnings of lifting restrictions. he has said time and time again about this being irreversible, and it would be a political humiliation for him if he were to have to go back on this easing or lifting of lockdown restrictions in england. yeah, well, i think he seems _ restrictions in england. yeah, well, i think he seems to _ restrictions in england. yeah, well, i think he seems to have _ restrictions in england. yeah, well, i think he seems to have lifted - i think he seems to have lifted guite — i think he seems to have lifted quite a — i think he seems to have lifted quite a few humiliations over the last year — quite a few humiliations over the last year. the various changes of tact and — last year. the various changes of tact and all— last year. the various changes of tact and all of a sudden cancelling christmas — tact and all of a sudden cancelling christmas. he talked about it being irreversible, but they are already hinting. — irreversible, but they are already hinting, and i think there is still decisions — hinting, and i think there is still decisions they can have these localised _ decisions they can have these localised lockdowns and throughout winter _ localised lockdowns and throughout winter if _ localised lockdowns and throughout winter if anything emerges. any nasty— winter if anything emerges. any nasty new— winter if anything emerges. any nasty new bugs or new variants that can evade _ nasty new bugs or new variants that can evade the vaccine. at the moment, _ can evade the vaccine. at the moment, that doesn't appear to be emerging — moment, that doesn't appear to be emerging. obviously we've had the belt delta —
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emerging. obviously we've had the belt delta variant, but the vaccines are working. by the time we come to the winter. _ are working. by the time we come to the winter, hopefully more and more people _ the winter, hopefully more and more people about the vaccines, then we've _ people about the vaccines, then we've got— people about the vaccines, then we've got the boosterjabs max as well _ we've got the boosterjabs max as well this — we've got the boosterjabs max as well. this could happen, and talking about— well. this could happen, and talking about keir— well. this could happen, and talking about keir starmer, they're focusing on that— about keir starmer, they're focusing on that in— about keir starmer, they're focusing on that in the ft. his warnings about— on that in the ft. his warnings about recklessness. my 72—year—old mother— about recklessness. my 72—year—old mother wasn't very happy when he came _ mother wasn't very happy when he came on— mother wasn't very happy when he came on there. she wants to be out and about, — came on there. she wants to be out and about, and i think a lot of people — and about, and i think a lot of people do _ and about, and i think a lot of people do. they don't want to be pressured — people do. they don't want to be pressured by politicians who are making — pressured by politicians who are making them feel guilty. i think he's got — making them feel guilty. i think he's got a — making them feel guilty. i think he's got a bit of fire in his belly, asjenny— he's got a bit of fire in his belly, asjenny says. he's he's got a bit of fire in his belly, as jenny says. he's thinking he's got a bit of fire in his belly, asjenny says. he's thinking he's churchill— asjenny says. he's thinking he's churchill at — asjenny says. he's thinking he's churchill at the moment. it's good for him _ churchill at the moment. it's good for him this— churchill at the moment. it's good for him this week, but let's see how things— for him this week, but let's see how things go _ for him this week, but let's see how things go. we'll be the judge in a few weeks— things go. we'll be the judge in a few weeks when we are —— whether infections _ few weeks when we are —— whether infections are going up. just
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few weeks when we are -- whether infections are going up.— infections are going up. just on infectious. _ infections are going up. just on infections, the _ infections are going up. just on infections, the prime _ infections are going up. just on infections, the prime ministerl infections are going up. just on i infections, the prime minister did actually say that by reopening date, whatever you want to call it, there could be 50,000 cases a day. but the point is if they have weekends of the link between hospitalisations and deaths, that is not such a prime consideration as it once might have been. ., , , ., ., been. know, but there is long covid to think of, — been. know, but there is long covid to think of, and _ been. know, but there is long covid to think of, and also _ been. know, but there is long covid to think of, and also bugs. - been. know, but there is long covid to think of, and also bugs. it - been. know, but there is long covid to think of, and also bugs. it was i to think of, and also bugs. it was quite surprising to hear and call it. but those variants thrive where infections are, and we know among young people, infections are really spreading, and also among schoolchildren. so we can'tjust say we're all ok because those infections aren't translating into hospitalisations and deaths. we are still playing a very risky game. it's difficult to see what else we could do because we have all made so
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many sacrifices and we should be so proud in this country, not only of our vaccination programme, but of our vaccination programme, but of our level of vaccine acceptance. the extent to which so many of us have been happy to be vaccinated, and there's a point where you have to reap the rewards of all of that. yeah. there are some other stories on the front pages, not many. michael, let's look at the ft. more sins must not be sold to private equity with wrong motives —— morrison �*s. that's their second story in the financial times. explain a bit about that. part of the equities _ explain a bit about that. part of the equities companies - explain a bit about that. part of the equities companies have i the equities companies have everyone's best interest. this is some _ everyone's best interest. this is some shareholders in particular legal, _ some shareholders in particular legal, who have shares in morrison's. they come out with a statement — morrison's. they come out with a statement talking about the bids that have gone in from america, the bil that have gone in from america, the big one _ that have gone in from america, the big one about £9 billion. it's a staple — big one about £9 billion. it's a staple on— big one about £9 billion. it's a staple on britain's streets. it's
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one that — staple on britain's streets. it's one that you wouldn't want to fall into the _ one that you wouldn't want to fall into the wrong hands, and i think they're _ into the wrong hands, and i think they're pointing out saying we don't want them — they're pointing out saying we don't want them piling on debt. looking out very— want them piling on debt. looking out very happily at the massive property— out very happily at the massive property portfolio it's got. because they've _ property portfolio it's got. because they've got £5 billion worth of property— they've got £5 billion worth of property across the country. as i say, — property across the country. as i say, it's _ property across the country. as i say, it's a _ property across the country. as i say, it's a big staple of the british— say, it's a big staple of the british high street and millions of people _ british high street and millions of people have a morrison's all the time _ people have a morrison's all the time we — people have a morrison's all the time. we wouldn't want to see anything — time. we wouldn't want to see anything happen to it. to me personally, it's got the best woods section— personally, it's got the best woods section of— personally, it's got the best woods section of all the supermarkets, so when _ section of all the supermarkets, so when i _ section of all the supermarkets, so when i sneak in there at 9.30 every night _ when i sneak in there at 9.30 every night to— when i sneak in there at 9.30 every night to get— when i sneak in there at 9.30 every night to get cheap sausages,... laughter there you go. thank you for that insight. let's end on the sports, and the great british hope, emma raducanu. very sadly forced to retire from wimbledon tonight with some sort of, well, we don't know quite what it was. some sort of stomach ailment. the 18—year—old
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