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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the author and journalist rachel shabi and former government special adviser, and now ceo of music industry body uk music, jamie njoku—goodwin. the metro reports that the number of new covid cases is continuing to fall — and says hopes are being raised that the uk may be past the peak of the third wave of coronavirus infections. the telegraph leads with the hijack of an oil tanker in the gulf of oman — it says iranian—backed forces are suspected of carrying it out. the i says the government is set to roll out covid vaccinations to over 16s in what it calls "the near future". and that story makes the front page of the daily mail as well — underneath a picture of more british olympic medal winners. the guardian carries
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an interview with the labour leader sir keir starmer, in which he claims international climate crisis talks could break down because of a lack of leadership from borisjohnson. and the mirror has a full—page photo of team gb's cycling husband and wife, jason and laura kenny — with those new silver medals to add to the family collection. writes, tangled between them, jason, laura, they have now got more silver is. we will come back to the olympics in a moment, but first, let's begin with the natural. underneath picture of katie hodgkinson celebrating her silver medal. there is potentially important news for people in the country, third wave in retreat, rachel? , , ,. ., , rachel? yes, well, this is certainly aood rachel? yes, well, this is certainly good news — rachel? yes, well, this is certainly good news if _ rachel? yes, well, this is certainly good news if true. _ rachel? yes, well, this is certainly good news if true. although, - rachel? yes, well, this is certainly. good news if true. although, people are understandably watching this very, very closely. i'm obviously not an expert in the in pandemics. of the people who are experts are
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welcoming this and citing several reasons for the reduction that we are seeing. it seems that the spike that happened a few weeks ago was largely contributed to by the football, by crowds of people, you know, english football fans meeting to watch the games and therefore creating potential infection hotspots, and that seems to be a biggerfactor than hotspots, and that seems to be a bigger factor than previously thought. alongside schools being closed, having an effect on the infection rates as well. but it is, as you say, and as this is reporting, possible that the delta variant and the spike in the uk data actually hit a peak a few weeks ago, and it's currently in retreat which would obviously be very welcome news. i would obviously be very welcome news. ., , ., , .
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news. i get to see how the picture is behind the _ news. i get to see how the picture is behind the scenes. _ news. i get to see how the picture is behind the scenes. jamie, - is behind the scenes. jamie, i'm very glad you did not drop your laptop or phonejust very glad you did not drop your laptop or phone just now, but i think i'm the only one who saw that. your thoughts on the metro? thank ou. there your thoughts on the metro? thank you- there was _ your thoughts on the metro? thank you. there was a _ your thoughts on the metro? thank you. there was a lot _ your thoughts on the metro? thank you. there was a lot of _ your thoughts on the metro? thank you. there was a lot of concern - your thoughts on the metro? thank| you. there was a lot of concern over the last _ you. there was a lot of concern over the last couple of weeks about people — the last couple of weeks about people saying, right, we got to stage _ people saying, right, we got to stage four, is the opening of night clubs_ stage four, is the opening of night clubs and — stage four, is the opening of night clubs and music festivals and a lot of the _ clubs and music festivals and a lot of the things we cannot do, will it cause _ of the things we cannot do, will it cause any— of the things we cannot do, will it cause any third wave because meka doesn't _ cause any third wave because meka doesn't seem to have done. i think people _ doesn't seem to have done. i think people were saying was going to come up people were saying was going to come up with_ people were saying was going to come up with -- _ people were saying was going to come up with -- if_ people were saying was going to come up with —— if it was going to, we would've — up with —— if it was going to, we would've seen it by now, but the cases_ would've seen it by now, but the cases are — would've seen it by now, but the cases are going in the right direction. it's encouraging. it's showing— direction. it's encouraging. it's showing that the impact of the vaccine — showing that the impact of the vaccine developed is having that positive — vaccine developed is having that positive impact that we are hoping for, positive impact that we are hoping for. but _ positive impact that we are hoping for. but it's— positive impact that we are hoping for, but it's also a testament to the responsible way that people have .one the responsible way that people have gone about that, so it's been great going _ gone about that, so it's been great going to _ gone about that, so it's been great going to music events and see how many— going to music events and see how many people are doing tasks voluntarily, they are wanting to be responsible. you are still seeing people _ responsible. you are still seeing people he — responsible. you are still seeing people be careful on the tubes, they wear masks in public. so a real combination, a of the benefit and the impact of the vaccine programme, but also, i think the
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the impact of the vaccine programme, but also, i thin— but also, i think the responsibility ofthe but also, i think the responsibility of the public _ but also, i think the responsibility of the public and _ but also, i think the responsibility of the public and making - but also, i think the responsibility of the public and making sure - of the public and making sure that even _ of the public and making sure that even though things are going in the film even though things are going in the right direction, we are not necessarily out of this yet, if people — necessarily out of this yet, if people i_ necessarily out of this yet, if people i still think their part in trying — people i still think their part in trying to— people i still think their part in trying to make sure we are all doing everything _ trying to make sure we are all doing everything we can collectively to -et everything we can collectively to get out — everything we can collectively to get out of this pandemic in one piece — piece. they think you piece. — they think you and i travel on different tube care —— carriages, potentially. it varies. sometimes it gets 85%, and evenings perhaps down to 60%, in my unscientific mind. let's look at the daily telegraph next. let's talk about the pandemic with the story on the front page. this is a story which many papers are covering, we will start at the telegraph. jaber allowed to be extended to 16—year—olds. why is that, rachel? extended to 16-year-olds. why is that, rachel?— extended to 16-year-olds. why is that, rachel? wright, yes. it looks like the joint _ that, rachel? wright, yes. it looks like the joint committee _ that, rachel? wright, yes. it looks like the joint committee on - that, rachel? wright, yes. it looksl like the joint committee on vaccines and immunisations is actually revising its advice on vaccinations and children. therefore, preempting this, but the government and the scottish government look like they
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might be revising plans to develop vaccines for children. this obviously would be, the idea would be to carry this out over the summer, and so to get ahead of the school term and reopening in september. i have to say, when i look at this, i do wonder about what we are doing globally, you know, there are vast chunks of the world that have very low rates of even first vaccinations. so to see more developed and wealthier countries hoarding the vaccine and now planning to roll out vaccines for children i had of getting other countries the chance to catch up and even a small way. you do have to wonder whether globally that is the right approach. i don't think it is. let's hold that thought while we look at the next newspaper which
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also leads on jabs. it takes slightly more political headline you turn on jabs for teenagers, but jamie, i would like to put that point we heard back from that ethical moral question about whether children in the uk, potentially in the last, should getjabs ahead of older people in developing countries who have yet to get anything. it is a reall , who have yet to get anything. it is a really. really _ who have yet to get anything. it is a really, really difficult question. ithink— a really, really difficult question. i think the — a really, really difficult question. i think the point that rachel is completely right on that we haven't beaten _ completely right on that we haven't beaten it _ completely right on that we haven't beaten it everywhere if we can't beat _ beaten it everywhere if we can't beat it — beaten it everywhere if we can't beat it everywhere. we have seen the canned _ beat it everywhere. we have seen the canned variant impacted by variants that were _ canned variant impacted by variants that were picked up there. the worry that were picked up there. the worry that people — that were picked up there. the worry that people have had for the last few months has been the emergence of some sort— few months has been the emergence of some sort of— few months has been the emergence of some sort of new variants which might— some sort of new variants which might be — some sort of new variants which might be vaccine resistant. so that's— might be vaccine resistant. so that's with a push to make sure we are vaccinating as many people as possible _ are vaccinating as many people as possible has come from and why i think— possible has come from and why i think a _ possible has come from and why i think a lot — possible has come from and why i think a lot of this has been driven by its _ think a lot of this has been driven by its i_ think a lot of this has been driven by its. i think rachel mentioned earlier— by its. i think rachel mentioned earlier one _ by its. i think rachel mentioned earlier one of the things we have seen _ earlier one of the things we have seen in _ earlier one of the things we have seen in the — earlier one of the things we have seen in the last couple of weeks of weeks _ seen in the last couple of weeks of weeks of— seen in the last couple of weeks of weeks of school is not going back to
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school _ weeks of school is not going back to school and — weeks of school is not going back to school and that's one of the things people _ school and that's one of the things people think is responsible for case rates _ people think is responsible for case rates dropping down so much. one of the concerns— rates dropping down so much. one of the concerns is as soon as schools come _ the concerns is as soon as schools come back— the concerns is as soon as schools come back and are we going to start to see _ come back and are we going to start to see cases— come back and are we going to start to see cases shooting again? so to make _ to see cases shooting again? so to make sure — to see cases shooting again? so to make sure that a return of schools in september won't contribute to the case rates _ in september won't contribute to the case rates. it's also important to say that— case rates. it's also important to say that the jcbi, that body that determines this, this isn't a political— determines this, this isn't a political decision, but it's really important — political decision, but it's really important to say that when it comes to this _ important to say that when it comes to this question about vaccinations, this isnt— to this question about vaccinations, this isn't necessarily the politicians making these decisions, they are _ politicians making these decisions, they are led by clinicians who are looking _ they are led by clinicians who are looking at— they are led by clinicians who are looking at things like safety. we have _ looking at things like safety. we have had — looking at things like safety. we have had a lot of time to look at these _ have had a lot of time to look at these vaccines, see how safe they are, the _ these vaccines, see how safe they are, the longer this goes on the more _ are, the longer this goes on the more we — are, the longer this goes on the more we have confidence to sadie's vaccines— more we have confidence to sadie's vaccines are — more we have confidence to sadie's vaccines are safe for children, there — vaccines are safe for children, there is— vaccines are safe for children, there is no— vaccines are safe for children, there is no risk to children, and that— there is no risk to children, and that therefore gets much more confidence for ministers to be given these _ confidence for ministers to be given these directions by clinicians that it is safe — these directions by clinicians that it is safe and effective to be given these _ it is safe and effective to be given these directions by clinicians that it is safe — these directions by clinicians that it is safe and effective tb vaccinating younger children as they io vaccinating younger children as they go through the pandemic. the guardian also _ go through the pandemic. tue: guardian also has go through the pandemic. tte: guardian also has the go through the pandemic. t“t2 guardian also has the jabs go through the pandemic. tt2 guardian also has the jabs story on its front page. nicola sturgeon
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talks about over i6—year—olds being offered vaccines. really, a different question. when we look at younger people, the government has been worrying about the uptake of vaccines among younger people, trying to offer incentives, i believe at one point a £10 morrison's voucher was going to be the gold ticket to getting people vaccinated. what will be for 16—17 —year—olds who of course might have to get consent. how might that work? we have seen a lot of the government saying, you know, they want to essentially encourage young people went shopping vouchers and you know, pizzas and all sorts of things. i do wonder about that, though, i suspect that the vaccine uptake amongst young people, you know, people are rarely come at you see people queuing around vaccine centres, young people, whenever you see the rush to pop up cemeteries to
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get vaccines. i don't get the sense that young people are particularly stalling over this. in fact, you know, you get the sense that the opposite has been true, rather a chunk of the population has been very patiently waiting its turn and being very responsible and following all of the requirements up until this point. i don't know about the ethical question about what age would you need consent. so would it be 16? would it be, you know, would it be under eight teams who need parental consent? i'm not sure what the apical road map for that would be. i suspect that that castigating young people all for a lack of uptake is probably a bit blown out of proportion. t uptake is probably a bit blown out of proportion-— uptake is probably a bit blown out of proportion. i mentioned that £10 morrison's voucher, _ of proportion. i mentioned that £10 morrison's voucher, there - of proportion. i mentioned that £10 morrison's voucher, there is - of proportion. i mentioned that £10 morrison's voucher, there is also i morrison's voucher, there is also talk of huber and delivery offering
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discounts. looking at the 16—17 —year—olds, do you think they will take up the vaccine, if you had to encourage them, what might you offer them? t encourage them, what might you offer them? ., . ., , . them? i mean come in the music indust , them? i mean come in the music industry. we _ them? i mean come in the music industry, we have _ them? i mean come in the music industry, we have been - them? i mean come in the music industry, we have been having i industry, we have been having conversations about tickets to concerts — conversations about tickets to concerts and things and looking at ways— concerts and things and looking at ways we _ concerts and things and looking at ways we can help encourage people, because _ ways we can help encourage people, because i_ ways we can help encourage people, because i think rachel is completely right _ because i think rachel is completely right. there isn't a huge number of people. _ right. there isn't a huge number of people, how younger people were saying _ people, how younger people were saying i_ people, how younger people were saying i absolutely don't want to -et saying i absolutely don't want to get the vaccine, but there necessarily anti—vaccine but they think. _ necessarily anti—vaccine but they think. i_ necessarily anti—vaccine but they think. i am — necessarily anti—vaccine but they think, i am younger, i necessarily anti—vaccine but they think, lam younger, i have necessarily anti—vaccine but they think, i am younger, i have far less grist— think, i am younger, i have far less grist to _ think, i am younger, i have far less grist to me. — think, i am younger, i have far less grist to me, do i really need it? that— grist to me, do i really need it? that it — grist to me, do i really need it? that it helps incentivise them and gives _ that it helps incentivise them and gives an _ that it helps incentivise them and gives an incentive and can be very effective — gives an incentive and can be very effective for public health policy. so in _ effective for public health policy. so in the — effective for public health policy. so in the music industry, we have had all— so in the music industry, we have had all sorts — so in the music industry, we have had all sorts of conversations about things— had all sorts of conversations about things they could potentially doing to help _ things they could potentially doing to help us do our bit to help drive the vaccine — to help us do our bit to help drive the vaccine rates lower. haste to help us do our bit to help drive the vaccine rates lower.— the vaccine rates lower. have you not an the vaccine rates lower. have you got any concrete _ the vaccine rates lower. have you got any concrete plans? - the vaccine rates lower. have you got any concrete plans? they - the vaccine rates lower. have you got any concrete plans? they are| got any concrete plans? they are progressing _ got any concrete plans? they are progressing at — got any concrete plans? they are progressing at the _ got any concrete plans? they are progressing at the moment, - got any concrete plans? they are progressing at the moment, i - progressing at the moment, i probably— progressing at the moment, i probably can't say anything right the -- _ probably can't say anything right the -- at — probably can't say anything right the —— at the moment. fair probably can't say anything right the -- at the moment. fair enough. let's look — the -- at the moment. fair enough. let's look at — the -- at the moment. fair enough. let's look at our _ the -- at the moment. fair enough. let's look at our next _ the -- at the moment. fair enough. let's look at our next newspaper, i let's look at our next newspaper, the daily telegraph we got back to
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again because there is a hefty story in the gulf of oman france to look at. ran "hijacks" tanker. tehran accused of second shipping attack in accused of second shipping attack in a week as britain, us and israel threatened to strike back. rachel, the gulf of oman is often a flashpoint between iran and various gulf arab states, and obviously the west is involved as well. how do you see this? ., �* , west is involved as well. how do you see this? . �* , west is involved as well. how do you see this? . �*, ., �*, see this? that's right. so that's re orted see this? that's right. so that's reported as _ see this? that's right. so that's reported as coming _ see this? that's right. so that's reported as coming from - see this? that's right. so that's| reported as coming from lloyd's list, a shipping website and has spoke into the sources you have said that this chip was braided —— rated by armed soldiers of around and directed to a round. —— ship was rated. it's the second one in a couple of weeks with suspicions and fingers pointed in the direction of iran. now, iran is, of course, denying all of this and saying that
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it's part of a, because it's coming from the us and uk and israel that is part of a preemptive kind of preliminary to taking measures against man. this is of course in the context of post—trumpet essentially tearing apart the iran peace dl and imposing crippling sanctions on iran. so that's the context in which all this is playing out. �* , ., context in which all this is playing out. ~ , . ., out. and must admit, we the general ublic, out. and must admit, we the general public, myself _ out. and must admit, we the general public, myself included, _ out. and must admit, we the general public, myself included, are - out. and must admit, we the general public, myself included, are getting i public, myself included, are getting pretty good at these tankers, given that we have all studied the aggregate and which has been stuck in the suez canal and has just arrived to its port. one problem is solved, and now it's a completely different golf —— problem there. then indeed. it comes at a very tense time in the wider middle east. i don't think it's on many of the front pages, but there are some concerning things— concerning things happening in afghanistan — concerning things happening in afghanistan right _ concerning things happening in afghanistan right now. - concerning things happening in afghanistan right now. looks l concerning things happening in i afghanistan right now. looks like concerning things happening in - afghanistan right now. looks like it may be _ afghanistan right now. looks like it may be fined to the taliban. it i
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new prime _ may be fined to the taliban. it i new prime minister and israel, and leader— new prime minister and israel, and leader in_ new prime minister and israel, and leader in iran, ultraconservative, they— leader in iran, ultraconservative, they both — leader in iran, ultraconservative, they both have their own domestic constituencies to be planed to them and you _ constituencies to be planed to them and you can — constituencies to be planed to them and you can kind of cds heightening tensions— and you can kind of cds heightening tensions in— and you can kind of cds heightening tensions in the region, which many people _ tensions in the region, which many people might look at this and say this is— people might look at this and say this is thousands and thousands of miles— this is thousands and thousands of miles away, what does it matter to ask, but— miles away, what does it matter to ask, but as — miles away, what does it matter to ask, but as we have seen in this pandemic— ask, but as we have seen in this pandemic come and you can kind of cds heightening tensions in the region. — cds heightening tensions in the region, which many people might look at this— region, which many people might look at this and _ region, which many people might look at this and say this is thousands and thousands of miles away, what does it— and thousands of miles away, what does it matter to ask, but as we have _ does it matter to ask, but as we have seen— does it matter to ask, but as we have seen in this pandemic, things that happen miles away have a habit of coming _ that happen miles away have a habit of coming home to affect us, so it's incredibly— of coming home to affect us, so it's incredibly concerning, and i think it's one _ incredibly concerning, and i think it's one to— incredibly concerning, and i think it's one to watch for everyone. gn it's one to watch for everyone. on the front page, kier starmer has given into prime minister missing in action over climate crisis. as as the uk well host the cop26 summit in glasgow. that's right. the labour leader has written an opinion piece on the subject at head of the un uk hosting those international climate talks in november. he is saying that the government is not doing enough to meet even its own targets, zero
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emissions by 2050. he is not the only one saying that. that climate change advisory committee, which is the official advisory group, essentially said the same thing, i thinkjust a few months ago, they said think 'ust a few months ago, they saia think 'ust a few months ago, they sai ., , ., think 'ust a few months ago, they saia . , ., ,. , think 'ust a few months ago, they saia ., , ., , . , , said there was no discernible sign ofthe said there was no discernible sign of the government _ said there was no discernible sign of the government making - said there was no discernible sign of the government making any i said there was no discernible sign l of the government making any sort said there was no discernible sign - of the government making any sort of plans, or putting anything in place to try to meet its own targets. it has to be said that there is a blueprint in circulation globally. there are versions of the green new deal. he uk iteration of that, but there's not only a climate tackling, climate crisis tackling programme, there is also a jobs creation programme. the government does not seem remotely interested in this, and it's unfortunate that it's coming at a time when the uk is about to host these talks. the world is looking towards the uk to lead on this issue, and currently it's not.
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