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good morning, welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and louise minchin. our headlines today. a defiantjoe biden defends his decision to pull us troops out of afghanistan, after the taliban seized power. i stand squarely behind my decision. after 20 years, i've learned the hard way that there was never a good time to withdraw us forces. more british troops are sent to help with the evacuation from kabul airport, after chaotic scenes yesterday. the heartbreak of afghan families here in the uk, as they appeal for help from the international community.
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people dying for no reason, people torturing _ people dying for no reason, people torturing for no reason. why? because — torturing for no reason. why? because they are human. great britain — because they are human. great britain has a humanity. that's all i can say _ england lose the second test. it was a thrilling and dramatic day of cricket at lords, but india came out on top. jodie comer tells us about her hollywood breakthrough, how she mastered an american accent and the time she got her mum's sunday dinners on set. good morning. today once again it is going to be fairly cloudy. the cloud thick enough for patchy light rain and drizzle. limited sunshine. details coming up. good morning. it's tuesday, august 17th. our top story. president biden has defended his decision to withdraw us troops from afghanistan. he admitted surprise at how quickly the taliban
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seized power, but blamed afghanistan's leaders for the defeat. military planes are reported to have begun flying again from kabul airport this morning, after yesterday's chaotic scenes, when hundreds of afghans tried to board aircraft. our correspondentjohn mcmanus has the latest. breaking short his summer holiday, president biden flew into washington dc on monday, to answer the charge that he had overseen a majorforeign policy disaster for afghanistan, and perhaps the world. he admitted that events over the past week had caught his government by surprise, but he was in no mood to apologise. we gave them every tool they could need. we paid their salaries, provided for the maintenance of their air force. we gave them every chance to determine their own future. mr biden said the buck stopped with him. but...
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i am left again to ask of those who argue that we should stay, how many more generations of america's daughters and sons would you have me send to fight afghanistan's civil war? as he spoke, thousands of miles away the taliban, armed and confident, had taken control of the streets of kabul, now able to walk in unopposed to government buildings. they are the government now. for many it's a nightmare. it's worse than what i thought, because they are searching to our addresses. and it's not only my life, but also my family life right now is in danger. we are facing more and more threats than before, because before our identity was not being clear to the taliban. now they know our name, our face, our address, our phone numbers, everything. fearing the future, many afghans are trying to
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leave in any way they can. their desperation evident in these scenes at kabul airport. the us says it has now secured the airport in order to evacuate americans and other foreigners. that's little comfort for those who want to escape but can't. this evacuation flight took off with a 640 afghan refugees on board. charities in the uk have urged the government to help refugees fleeing the taliban to settle in britain. ministers say that more than 3000 afghan interpreters and their families who worked with uk forces, have been resettled, and they're working to bring more to britain. details of a new scheme to welcome afghan refugees to the uk is due to be announced in the coming days. we are obviously a bighearted nation. we've got of the criteria for asylum set in law. we worked with the un on that. we are working very carefully on what kind of further commitment we might make. the prime minister borisjohnson says he wants the un security council to urgently meet to discuss the international community's next steps.
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but china has already said it wants friendly relations with afghanistan's new recruits, while russia while russia has said it believes the taliban will restore order. john mcmanus, bbc news. our political correspondent, helen catt, is in westminster. we heard that defiant message from president biden. what is the uk government saying? there is quite a strikingly different tone coming out of the us and from _ different tone coming out of the us and from what we have heard from uk ministers _ and from what we have heard from uk ministers in _ and from what we have heard from uk ministers in the last 24 hours. if you think— ministers in the last 24 hours. if you think back to yesterday the defence — you think back to yesterday the defence secretary ben wallace got quite visibly choked up about the situation — quite visibly choked up about the situation. you had dominic rab, the foreign— situation. you had dominic rab, the foreign secretary, saying this was not what — foreign secretary, saying this was not what we wanted but we had to deal with — not what we wanted but we had to deal with the new reality. there is quite _ deal with the new reality. there is quite a _ deal with the new reality. there is quite a difference in tone. in terms of dealing —
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quite a difference in tone. in terms of dealing with the new reality, the government focus continues to be on getting _ government focus continues to be on getting british nationals, getting afghans come out of afghanistan as quickly— afghans come out of afghanistan as quickly as— afghans come out of afghanistan as quickly as possible. that is why they— quickly as possible. that is why they have — quickly as possible. that is why they have sent these extra 200 troops — they have sent these extra 200 troops to — they have sent these extra 200 troops to patrol the airport at kabut— troops to patrol the airport at kabul after the scenes we saw yesterday, to try to help to make that happen. the other focuses on making _ that happen. the other focuses on making sure it doesn't end up in a humanitarian crisis. there is a lot of international diplomatic things going _ of international diplomatic things going on— of international diplomatic things going on behind the scenes. boris johnson _ going on behind the scenes. boris johnson has spoken to the french president — johnson has spoken to the french president. he is due to speak to other— president. he is due to speak to other world leaders this week. there will be _ other world leaders this week. there will be a _ other world leaders this week. there will be a virtual meeting of the g7 leaders _ will be a virtual meeting of the g7 leaders this week as an attempt to form a _ leaders this week as an attempt to form a global reaction to what is going _ form a global reaction to what is going on — form a global reaction to what is auoin on. ., ~' ,, we'll be speaking to the foreign secretary dominic raab at around half past seven. reports that the airlift from kabul airport is running more smoothly this morning have passed seven with
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the foreign secretary. a tropical storm has hit the island of haiti, just three days after an earthquake which killed at least 1400 people. a further 7,000 were injured in the quake, and hospitals are struggling to care for them, as james clayton reports. many of these people were asleep when the earthquake hit, their homes caving in. it's hard enough to treat survivors of any natural disaster, but when the hospitals themselves are under fear of collapse, it makes it all the more difficult. well, this hospital is simply too unsafe to have people stay inside, so they've brought everyone outside here. they've tried to place them under trees, under tents, to try and keep them cooler and out of the hot sun. but what you're seeing here, just 48 hours after the quake, the doctors have run out of painkillers, they've run out of antibiotics and there are major concerns about things like infection. elsie had just woken up when the earthquake hit. her son has a serious
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compound fracture and needs to be taken to the airport to be lifted out. seeing him in such pain is overwhelming. there simply aren't enough facilities to treat people in this remote part of the country. from the hospital some of the injured are taken to this airport, waiting for a flight out to the capital port—au—prince. like a 19—year—old tanya, who is pregnant. so you woke up and basically tried to run out, but then the house collapsed on top of her? she says her leg hurts and she has abdominal pain. most of the hospitals here are in need of the basics. iv solutions, bandages, medications, including antibiotics and pain management medications. they're in the same situation where they've run out. overall it's dire. you know, we're sitting here with three hospitals that are moving patients to the airport for transportation out. there no coordination. a tropical storm here is also preventing flights in and out of the capital. the people here need help, but at the moment not enough is coming. james clayton, bbc news.
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from today, plasma can be taken from blood donations in england to produce life—saving medicine. a ban on british donor plasma came into force in 1998, because of concerns about so—called mad cow disease, but it has now been ruled safe. around 1700 patients benefit every yearfrom immunoglobulins, which are derived from blood plasma. investment in hydrogen energy to power vehicles and heat homes will create thousands of newjobs and reduce carbon emissions — that's according to a new government strategy launching today. ministers hope the industry will attract billions of pounds in investment. it's thought the fuel could account for a third of the uk's energy use by 2050. but environmental campaigners say there should be more focus on renewably sourced hydrogen. the town of wrexham, in north wales, is not known for its multi—billion dollar film industry or legions of celebrity residents — but it does now have
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a hollywood—style sign. it's not clear who erected the sign, but some locals are linking it to the actors ryan reynolds and rob mcelhenney, who recently bought wrexham football club. there you go. there is the sign. i've been passed there a few times and not noticed it yet. the i've been passed there a few times and not noticed it yet.— and not noticed it yet. the letters are a relatively _ and not noticed it yet. the letters are a relatively modest _ and not noticed it yet. the letters are a relatively modest size - and not noticed it yet. the letters are a relatively modest size is - and not noticed it yet. the letters are a relatively modest size is myj are a relatively modest size is my judgment. are a relatively modest size is my 'udument. ., ., �* , , ., . ,, judgment. you haven't seen the stack it is on. it judgment. you haven't seen the stack it is on- it is — judgment. you haven't seen the stack it is on. it is actually _ judgment. you haven't seen the stack it is on. it is actually quite _ judgment. you haven't seen the stack it is on. it is actually quite big. - it is on. it is actually quite big. 0k! can we see the pictures again? you can argue again. it’s ok! can we see the pictures again? you can argue again.— you can argue again. it's hard to work out how— you can argue again. it's hard to work out how big _ you can argue again. it's hard to work out how big it _ you can argue again. it's hard to work out how big it is _ you can argue again. it's hard to work out how big it is relevant . you can argue again. it's hard to| work out how big it is relevant to the size of the hill behind. it's a sign. there you go. it's there. we'll get the latest official figures on job vacancies this morning, but we know that certain sectors are struggling to recruit staff. ben's on a new housing development
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in west yorkshire to tell us more. morning to you. yeah, good morning. we are looking _ morning to you. yeah, good morning. we are looking at _ morning to you. yeah, good morning. we are looking at the _ morning to you. yeah, good morning. we are looking at the shortage - morning to you. yeah, good morning. we are looking at the shortage of- we are looking at the shortage of workers in all sorts of industries, because as well as the jobs figures, the unemployment figures that we will get later, we are also expecting to hear about the number of vacancies. there is a real problem in certain industries about getting the staff they need. it is particularly important in the construction trade. there is a shortage of key workers. that is causing a problem to build places like this. let me explain some of the reasons why that might be the case. as the uk left the european union, it is a lot harder to get staff from overseas. they now need to apply for visas to work in the uk. that has caused a shortage of eu workers. there has already been a shortage of workers in certain key industries already. we have been talking a lot on the programme about food shortages in supermarkets. that is because of a shortage of hgv
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drivers. that is a big problem. and of course, as the economy recovers from the pandemic there has been a push for workers to get back to work in certain industries all at the same time. it's created a bottleneck effect that has meant there has been a real lack of key workers in key industries. what are the implications for places like this? let me introduce you to steve, the managing director here. good morning. managing director here. good morninu. managing director here. good mornin. _ ,., ., ., managing director here. good morning._ talk| managing director here. good i morning._ talk to managing director here. good - morning._ talk to me morning. good morning. talk to me about the shortage _ morning. good morning. talk to me about the shortage of _ morning. good morning. talk to me about the shortage of workers. - morning. good morning. talk to me about the shortage of workers. you | about the shortage of workers. you are not affected on this site, but the industry as a whole is lacking certain key skills? taste the industry as a whole is lacking certain key skills?— certain key skills? we are not directly affected. _ certain key skills? we are not directly affected. we - certain key skills? we are not directly affected. we are - certain key skills? we are not. directly affected. we are looking house—building business. but we are fully aware there is a national shortage. it is more affected in the cities. we don't have them real issues. but we are aware. what sort of skills are —
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issues. but we are aware. what sort of skills are lacking? _ issues. but we are aware. what sort of skills are lacking? brickies - issues. but we are aware. what sort of skills are lacking? brickies are . of skills are lacking? brickies are always a problem. are you short of electricians, rufers, tyler perry micro? , . ., , ., electricians, rufers, tyler perry micro? ,. ., ., ., micro? there is certainly a shortage of bricklayers. _ micro? there is certainly a shortage of bricklayers, carpenters, - of bricklayers, carpenters, plumbers. but again, it is not something that is directly affecting us at this moment in time. what something that is directly affecting us at this moment in time. what are the issues in — us at this moment in time. what are the issues in terms _ us at this moment in time. what are the issues in terms of _ us at this moment in time. what are the issues in terms of training - us at this moment in time. what are the issues in terms of training new l the issues in terms of training new people? an ageing workforce is a problem. a lot of people have been doing this for a long time and there aren't as many people coming up through the system? that aren't as many people coming up through the system?— aren't as many people coming up through the system? that is an issue for us. we through the system? that is an issue for us- we have _ through the system? that is an issue for us. we have got _ through the system? that is an issue for us. we have got guys _ through the system? that is an issue for us. we have got guys in - through the system? that is an issue for us. we have got guys in their- for us. we have got guys in their 60s working for us. the real issue is getting young people coming forward into the industry. personally i would like to see more women coming into the industry. i've got three daughters. i would encourage women to come into the industry. there is an opportunity. is enough being done to encourage younger people to consider a in construction?— younger people to consider a in construction? no, i don't think it is. more could _ construction? no, i don't think it is. more could be _ construction? no, i don't think it is. more could be done - construction? no, i don't think it is. more could be done to - construction? no, i don't think it
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is. more could be done to make| construction? no, i don't think it| is. more could be done to make it look more attractive. it offers long—term salaries, long—term security. you end up working in a good industry, well paid. ps. security. you end up working in a good industry, well paid. fix. liat security. you end up working in a good industry, well paid.- good industry, well paid. a lot of eo - le in good industry, well paid. a lot of people in the _ good industry, well paid. a lot of people in the pandemic - good industry, well paid. a lot of people in the pandemic may - good industry, well paid. a lot of| people in the pandemic may have good industry, well paid. a lot of - people in the pandemic may have gone away and thought about setting up on their own, doing something for themselves, using the skills they have got. i'm thinking particularly of electricians and plumbers. do you find that you have to subcontract? again, that is not really happening with us. we have a loyal workforce but i know it is a factor. i know over the past 12 months with the pandemic, people have a little cash windfalls from the government, which has worked well. they have gone unused that in diy jobs. has worked well. they have gone unused that in dionbs. —— gone on and used that. it is having a small effect. ., ~ and used that. it is having a small effect. ., ,, , ., ., and used that. it is having a small effect. ., ,, ., ., ,, . effect. thank you for now, steve. we will chat more _ effect. thank you for now, steve. we will chat more later. _ effect. thank you for now, steve. we will chat more later. on _ effect. thank you for now, steve. we will chat more later. on this - effect. thank you for now, steve. we will chat more later. on this site - will chat more later. on this site they are building 18 of these. four of them are already sold. they have to crack on and make sure they get finished. we will show you some of the glorious views at the back of
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these houses later when the weather gets a little better. but as we said, we will get those official jobs figures at seven o'clock this morning. they will tell us the rate of unemployment, how many people are out of work, and show us how the economy is recovering from the pandemic. also, crucially, we will get those vacancy figures telling us how manyjobs are out there and whether, crucially, there are the right people to apply for those jobs. more details at seven. thank you. jobs. more details at seven. thank ou_ ,, ., , , jobs. more details at seven. thank ou. ., . , 2 jobs. more details at seven. thank ou. ., . , �*, you. quarter past six. let's take ou back you. quarter past six. let's take you back to _ you. quarter past six. let's take you back to our _ you. quarter past six. let's take you back to our main _ you. quarter past six. let's take you back to our main story - you. quarter past six. let's take you back to our main story for l you. quarter past six. let's take i you back to our main story for the past couple of days. watching the footage of afghanistan descend into chaos is upsetting for anyone. but for those with friends and relatives still living there, it's terrifying. tim muffett has been spending time with members of london's afghan community as the events of the last few days have unfolded. fea rful fearful and scared things will get worse. ., fearful and scared things will get worse. . . , ., , fearful and scared things will get worse. . . ,. , a worse. afghanistan is in fire. my family don't _
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worse. afghanistan is in fire. my family don't have _ worse. afghanistan is in fire. my family don't have water, - worse. afghanistan is in fire. my family don't have water, food. i worse. afghanistan is in fire. my i family don't have water, food. they are sleeping on the road. i have kids. i am a mother. are sleeping on the road. i have kids. iam a mother. last are sleeping on the road. i have kids. i am a mother. last night i couldn't sleep. people dying for no reason, people torturing for no reason. why? because they are human? i ask great britain to help them, to have the humanity. that's all i can say. the afghanistan and central asian association centre in feltham, west london. for20 association centre in feltham, west london. for 20 years, this organisation has offered support to the afghan community in the uk. most who come here have friends and family in a country in crisis. the speed at which the situation has changed has proved shocking. over the weekend the taliban reached kabul. the weekend the taliban reached kabul the weekend the taliban reached kabul. ., the weekend the taliban reached kabul. . ,, , , , kabul. there are kids suffering. there are _ kabul. there are kids suffering. there are all _ kabul. there are kids suffering. there are all people, _ kabul. there are kids suffering. there are all people, seniors, l there are all people, seniors, homeless people. the there are all people, seniors, homeless people. the situation has
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clearly changed _ homeless people. the situation has clearly changed dramatically. - homeless people. the situation has clearly changed dramatically. havel clearly changed dramatically. have you been speaking to your family? yeah, their life is in danger. we don't _ yeah, their life is in danger. we don't know— yeah, their life is in danger. we don't know what will happen next. it's don't know what will happen next. it's a _ don't know what will happen next. it's a shame. it's a shame for all of us. not only me, for all of the human beings, all of the communities around the world.— around the world. maria's mother and four sisters are _ around the world. maria's mother and four sisters are in _ around the world. maria's mother and four sisters are in the _ around the world. maria's mother and four sisters are in the afghan - four sisters are in the afghan capital. four sisters are in the afghan caital. «a four sisters are in the afghan caital. ., ., four sisters are in the afghan caital. «a ., ., , four sisters are in the afghan caital. ., ., , ., capital. three weeks ago, my father, he assed capital. three weeks ago, my father, he passed away- _ capital. three weeks ago, my father, he passed away. now— capital. three weeks ago, my father, he passed away. now they _ capital. three weeks ago, my father, he passed away. now they are - capital. three weeks ago, my father, he passed away. now they are by - he passed away. now they are by themselves. gn he passed away. now they are by themselves-— he passed away. now they are by themselves. on friday, before the taliban reached _ themselves. on friday, before the taliban reached the _ themselves. on friday, before the taliban reached the city, _ themselves. on friday, before the taliban reached the city, she - taliban reached the city, she managed to speak to them. i'm watching the situation right now _ i'm watching the situation right now. ., , , ., ., , now. people were begging for money and food and — now. people were begging for money and food and water _ now. people were begging for money and food and water on _ now. people were begging for money and food and water on the _ now. people were begging for money
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and food and water on the streets. i and food and water on the streets. it is a bad situation. getting worse day by day. it is a bad situation. getting worse day by day-— day by day. talking to your sister in those circumstances, - day by day. talking to your sister in those circumstances, how- day by day. talking to your sister| in those circumstances, how hard day by day. talking to your sister i in those circumstances, how hard is that for you? it in those circumstances, how hard is that for you?— that for you? it is too much. it is heartbreaking — that for you? it is too much. it is heartbreaking for _ that for you? it is too much. it is heartbreaking for me _ that for you? it is too much. it is heartbreaking for me because i that for you? it is too much. it is. heartbreaking for me because this situation, — heartbreaking for me because this situation, i— heartbreaking for me because this situation, i can't do for them anything _ situation, i can't do for them anything-— situation, i can't do for them anything. situation, i can't do for them an hina. . , , anything. amidst the despair there are positive _ anything. amidst the despair there are positive moments _ anything. amidst the despair there are positive moments here. - anything. amidst the despair there l are positive moments here. lessons in farsi for children, many of whom have never been to the country of their parents. and classes in english for adults looking to improve their language skills. as well as food, advice and support. how important is this place at the moment, given the terrible things happening in afghanistan? i moment, given the terrible things happening in afghanistan?- happening in afghanistan? i think this lace happening in afghanistan? i think this place plays — happening in afghanistan? i think this place plays a _ happening in afghanistan? i think this place plays a vital _ happening in afghanistan? i think this place plays a vital role. - this place plays a vital role. people are becoming very, very, not just upset, but also anxious and confused about what will happen in the future. , g; :: :: , .,
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the future. events 3500 miles away have never felt _ the future. events 3500 miles away have never felt so _ the future. events 3500 miles away have never felt so close _ the future. events 3500 miles away have never felt so close to - the future. events 3500 miles away have never felt so close to home. i have never felt so close to home. tim moffat, bbc news. brute have never felt so close to home. tim moffat, bbc news.— have never felt so close to home. tim moffat, bbc news. we will look at the papers _ tim moffat, bbc news. we will look at the papers this— tim moffat, bbc news. we will look at the papers this morning - tim moffat, bbc news. we will look at the papers this morning because | at the papers this morning because of course that stories on the front page of pretty much every single paper. the situation in afghanistan continues to dominate today's front pages. many feature photos showing the chaotic scenes at kabul�*s airport yesterday, where hundreds of people tried to board flights out of the country. 'race to escape kabul carnage' is the headline in the times. 'desperate' is the daily mirror's verdict, alongside a photo showing what appears to be hundreds of afghans on board a us plane leaving kabul. the daily mail describes us presidentjoe biden's defence of his withdrawal of troops as "extraordinary", saying he's washed his hands of the nation. and the daily express reports that an extra 200 british troops are being flown into kabul, to "save thousands of britons fleeing taliban forces".
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i keep reminding you this morning, but at half past seven we will try to find out more about those troop deployments, speaking to the foreign secretary. try to get a bit of clever —— clarity on what is happening there. brute clever -- clarity on what is happening there.— clever -- clarity on what is happening there. clever -- clarity on what is hauenina there. ~ ., ,, .,~ happening there. we will also speak to --eole happening there. we will also speak to people who _ happening there. we will also speak to people who are _ happening there. we will also speak to people who are in _ happening there. we will also speak to people who are in kabul, - happening there. we will also speak to people who are in kabul, as- happening there. we will also speak to people who are in kabul, as welll to people who are in kabul, as well as people who have come to live here in the uk and is well, people who have served in afghanistan. so much to talk about. just have served in afghanistan. so much to talk about-— to talk about. just a couple of stories to _ to talk about. just a couple of stories to pick _ to talk about. just a couple of stories to pick out _ to talk about. just a couple of stories to pick out from - to talk about. just a couple of stories to pick out from the i to talk about. just a couple of- stories to pick out from the inside pages. you know there has been a trend recently for people to move to more rural places for lifestyle advantages during covid? here is one that comes with a job and different lifestyle. this is fair isle, located between orkney and shetland, britain's remote —— but britain's
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rope most remote island. they are looking for a new head teacher. a community of 60 people. very few pupils. they are looking for a head teacher. someone who wants a salary of £56,000. 35 hour week. and also, quite a bit of toing and froing. the island itself is three square miles in total. it is known for its natural beauty, knitwear and seabirds. and apparently, 10,000 puffins live on the island. i’ge seabirds. and apparently, 10,000 puffins live on the island.— puffins live on the island. i've got a icture puffins live on the island. i've got a picture of _ puffins live on the island. i've got a picture of a _ puffins live on the island. i've got a picture of a seabird. _ puffins live on the island. i've got a picture of a seabird. it's - a picture of a seabird. it's actually a banksy. it is a seagull mural. it has been slightly changed. there is the mural. it had a skip with foam. basically what happened is the chips have been taken from the skip. that is in lowestoft in suffolk. did you see this one as well? this right picture as well?
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that was painted over by someone at the weekend. the council have had to hire specialists to remove the white paint, which was dogged over the picture. paint, which was dogged over the icture. ~ , ., ,, paint, which was dogged over the icture. ~ , ., ., ., it's picture. why would you do that? it's extraordinary. _ picture. why would you do that? it's extraordinary, isn't _ picture. why would you do that? it's extraordinary, isn't it? _ picture. why would you do that? it's extraordinary, isn't it? a _ picture. why would you do that? it's extraordinary, isn't it? a rat - extraordinary, isn't it? a rat enjoying a glass of wine. somebody painted over it. now they have had to remove it. painted over it. now they have had to remove it— painted over it. now they have had to remove it. ., ., ., , ~ ., if you've been to the pub since covid restrictions were lifted, did you order at the bar or stick with using the app on your phone? although the apps are no longer compulsory, the big pub chains are continuing to offer them as an option, but there are concerns about the amount of personal data being collected. our consumer affairs correspondent colletta smith went to the pub to find out more. i'll wait until we've all ordered. the lads are out for pints, but which will be quicker, the app or the bar? the race is on. i should have figured out what i'm going to have. i don't want to get something random. still, we wait. table service sweeps
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in with the phone orders before the slow coaches make it that. if this place was packed, i would be dreaming for the app, i wouldn't go anywhere near the bar. you end up with ten different passwords, greene king, wetherspoons, i've got so many different apps. postcode, e—mail, there seems like a lot of irrelevant information that you don't technically need. the information is irrelevant, we all know it's kind of the cost you have to pay almost, i think. . i think i can speak for everyone. here, once we've had a few drinks were more likely to get up to the bar _ than be fiddling - around with the app. like to have a laugh with them and have a chat with them. that's what you miss with the pandemic, just chatting with people. bar manager steve makes a little less money on every less order through the app, but it's staying because plenty of customers are still using it. the bar service is higher, is roughly 70% at the moment compared to the app, which is 30. but on our busy period, friday and saturday nights, then the app comes into play more because people don't particularly want to queue at the bar so they use table service more so that goes up to 45%.
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we've been in touch with the biggest pub chains who all told me their apps are here to stay. they've all got one now. and tech companies say take up across the industry is still on the rise. in terms of small independent businesses, the take—up has been slower but it still probably around 50% now. do you think customers may be getting a little bit more wary about how much information they are having to give just in order to get a pint? when we had ourfirst couple of venues go live, it was quite a rigorous sign up process. the data that we collect from individuals has gradually been worn away now to a point where, we want to make it as simple and easy as possible for customers to sign up. whether you're an app addict or you've got an app version, the reality is that these things are here to stay with with more and more venues offering apps as an option for customers to order. but for most of this, the reality is we'll never read the terms and conditions behind the app. especially after you've had a few.
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the data watchdog wants customers to be careful not to give away too many personal details. if you think about an ordering app, what information is necessary to make that order? it needs to be relevant to the order and it also needs to be not excessive. if you are a member of the public and you're filling in your details and you think, hang on a second, you want my name and address, you want all my personal details, question it. if it feels excessive, just pause for a second. now we can go to the bar and speak to somebody, i don't use one of them. tried it in a pub in burnham—on—sea about two weeks ago, _ and it flashed back at me, order at the bar. - i used the app before you had to use the app so i really like it. i've been asked but you need t'internet banking that and i don't do that neither. data for drinks is a trade—off that lots of customers aren't even aware they're making. i'd ratherjust use the app now
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because it's easier, you don't have to queue up. however the next round is ordered, the chief question is, who's paying? cheers, guys. colletta smith, bbc news, in manchester. you're watching bbc breakfast. still to come... we'll meet the woman who was bullied at school for having alopecia. now chloe asford—smith is a beauty queen with hopes of becoming the next miss england. we'll have that shortly, and bring you the latest news and weather. now it's time for the weather with carol. good morning. if you are stepping out there is some missed my grandma got run of this morning, particularly on the coasts and hills. on the trans— pennine route... forthe hills. on the trans— pennine route... for the next few days what
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you have got is what you are going to hang onto. cool and cloudy conditions with rain at times. some rain courtesy of these front pushing south—east. you can see from the proximity of the isobars it is going to be a breezy day. nothing untoward. the breeze coming from the north—west. it is feeding and a lot of moisture in the shape of cloud. here is the weather front eventually clearing away from the south—east, leaving in its wake some patchy rain. there will be some brightness coming through as well, particularly so across shetland, eastern scotland, south—east wales, down towards dorset, the west country. as that rain clears away will see a brighton later on in the south—east. these are the average wind speeds. nothing to write home about. neither are the temperatures. 14 to 20 degrees. yesterday the top temperature was in strathallan in perth and kinross. that was just over 21 degrees. temperatures lower than they should be at this stage in
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august. tonight again a fair amount of cloud, patchy light rain and drizzle. more rain across the northern isles. shetland. temperatures 11 to 15 degrees. not a cold night. tomorrow then, still a lot of cloud around. the breeze not as brisk. the rain will clearfrom the northern isles. and again, we will see some breaks to the east of high eastern parts of scotland in the north—east of england, east wales, down towards the south—west. the temperature range 14 to 21. at this time of the year it should be roughly 20 in the north to 24 in the south. wednesday into thursday we have got this weather front approaching from the south—west. it is going to be pushing eastwards. it will drift slowly eastwards across wales and southern england. after a bright start in the south—east we will see the cloud built as we go through the course of the day. quite a bit of cloud still around. patchy
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light rain and drizzle. and again, limited amounts of sunshine. temperatures between 13 and 21 degrees. as we had from thursday into friday, there goes our first front. look at the spacing in the isobars. not much wind. then we have this next front coming in from the west. on friday itself a lot of us will have a dry day. they would be more sunshine. you can see there will be some cloud. rain eventually getting into northern ireland. top temperatures up to 21. more later. hello, this is breakfast with louise minchin and charlie stayt. coming up on breakfast this morning. the killing eve starjodie comer has made the leap from small screen to hollywood movies. she's been telling us about working with ryan reynolds, received pronunciation, and roast dinners. dame sarah storey will be talking
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to breakfast before she flies off to tokyo where she could become britain's most decorated paralympian of all time. and you've heard of a road trip but what about a rude trip? we'll be chatting to the charity fundraiser planning to ride his moped around some of britain's cheekiest place names. as we've been hearing, blood donations in england can be used to make a vital medicine from today thanks to a change in the rules. it's all about the plasma contained in the blood which can now be extracted from uk supplies. the gp william bird can tell us more. he's in reading. good morning. this is starting today, plasma will start to be taken from blood donations in england, explain why it's so important, what the blood plasma will be used for? thanks very much, charlie. blood plasma is 55% of the blood, so the
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other part of it, 45%, is the blood cells, the red bit. the plasma is the honey coloured fluid you get when you have a wound and you have that leaking out, but that is incredibly important for people who do not have a good immune system or if their immune system is trying to attack their own bodies. so you give them plasma from other people, and their immunity, the antibodies in their immunity, the antibodies in their can help them live a completely normal life. 17,000 people rely on plasma every single year, continuously, and before today, we had imported it, it's been 20 years since we had our own blood plasma. we now report it, and now we're going to get our own plasma. people can choose to give plasma, it's slightly different from giving blood. you get the vein, the big needle in the vein and what it does is, it takes the blood and puts back your red blood cells and takes the
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plasma. it takes about an hour and 15 minutes, and you can book up, you cannot really give blood and plasma at the same time, but you can alternate it or do it as one of the other. but certainly we are going to become self—sufficient for the first time and use our own plasma. so it's really good news and finally we can, if you haven't been giving blood, giving plasma will be just as useful for a lot of people. it’s giving plasma will be 'ust as useful for a lot of people._ for a lot of people. it's entirely se arate for a lot of people. it's entirely separate from _ for a lot of people. it's entirely separate from blood _ for a lot of people. it's entirely separate from blood donation, | for a lot of people. it's entirely i separate from blood donation, so for a lot of people. it's entirely - separate from blood donation, so you have to sign up for it, and describe and pick a time to go? yes. have to sign up for it, and describe and pick a time to go?— and pick a time to go? yes, if you no to the and pick a time to go? yes, if you go to the website _ and pick a time to go? yes, if you go to the website for— and pick a time to go? yes, if you go to the website for the - and pick a time to go? yes, if you go to the website for the blood i go to the website for the blood transfusion service, blood dot co .uk, you can sign up. if you have been giving blood, you have to wait about four weeks. if you are pregnant or within six months of having a baby you can't do it, or if you have had problems, if you have had a vaccination, it's about ten days after that. but if you have had
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hiv or other problems like hepatitis, then you can't do it. pretty much anyone else can do it if you are fit and well. and absolutely essential that we have enough blood and plasma to be able to cope ourselves in this country. it’s and plasma to be able to cope ourselves in this country. it's been awhile since _ ourselves in this country. it's been awhile since we _ ourselves in this country. it's been awhile since we have _ ourselves in this country. it's been awhile since we have chatted, - ourselves in this country. it's been awhile since we have chatted, how are things in your surgery more generally? are people coming forward... i know there are lots of problems in referring people on because of the problems in terms of the access to some nhs services at the access to some nhs services at the moment, what's happening? it’s the moment, what's happening? it's bus , the moment, what's happening? it�*s busy, charlie, really is. injune, the latest figures we have, 31 million consultations which is an underestimate, because in one call we can have a lot of different patients. that is 1 we can have a lot of different patients. that is1 million a day, thatis patients. that is1 million a day, that is one third up on 2019. we have to fit an extra third number of patients into the existing structures and it's not coping.
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people coming will no, they will have to wait, you phone up and say, i would like an appointment with my own doctor face—to—face and you are suddenly seeing two or three weeks, and if it's just a consultation with some other doctor who you don't know or a locum, you can sometimes still be waiting a couple of weeks, because we are trying to fit in as many people as possible. there are just too many people at the moment. it is a bit worrying, it's very busy, and of course some people are getting a little bit tetchy about it and finding it difficult so that is another we face. and then onward, the hospitals are finding the effect of really busy as well. so we are well over full capacity at the moment, trying to fit a seven day week into days, so please bear with us. it is difficult, it's not because we are holding back all we are closed shop, it's because there are closed shop, it's because there are so many patients coming in with semi—different things, there's a catch up from —— so many different things, there's a catch up from the lockdown in the last year. i
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things, there's a catch up from the lockdown in the last year.- lockdown in the last year. i think ou 'ust lockdown in the last year. i think you just said. — lockdown in the last year. i think you just said, people _ lockdown in the last year. i think you just said, people getting - lockdown in the last year. i think you just said, people getting a i you just said, people getting a little bit tetchy. i'm thinking maybe you are one of those people who deals in understatements, sometimes things get a little bit out of hand?— sometimes things get a little bit out of hand? , .. , .., ~ out of hand? they can, they can. and some of it is — out of hand? they can, they can. and some of it is quite _ out of hand? they can, they can. and some of it is quite serious. _ out of hand? they can, they can. and some of it is quite serious. i - out of hand? they can, they can. and some of it is quite serious. i think - some of it is quite serious. i think the receptionists particularly, they are the ones who get it very very badly. there have been some horrible sexist and racist accusations, people... i think the last survey that was done, two thirds of all reception staff had been abused every single day. for the gp, it's one in five getting abuse once a month, so it is the receptionists who are getting it. it's not acceptable, if you are going to be abusive, you can come off the list. there is no need to get angry with the receptionists, some of them are having their tyres slashed, it's getting nasty out there and it's happening more and more, i have been witnessing it to some of our nurses.
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it's just not tolerated. but you have to remember, it's not because we are choosing to hold back, it simply because of the numbers of patients, we are just so busy. simply because of the numbers of patients, we arejust so busy. i patients, we are just so busy. i appreciate you taking us through this, no one should have to deal with that, absolutely not. thank you for your time, we will talk to you soon. ., ~' for your time, we will talk to you soon. . ~ i. for your time, we will talk to you soon. ., ~ ,, y for your time, we will talk to you soon. . ~ i. , . soon. thank you very much. i don't really _ soon. thank you very much. i don't really know- soon. thank you very much. i don't really know how - soon. thank you very much. i don't really know how to i soon. thank you very much. - i don't really know how to describe the day that england had in their cricket, tricky? we were so optimistic yesterday morning about england but it didn't go so well. they went favourites are gesturing to hang onto a draw yesterday. —— they went from favourites to just trying to hang on to a draw. joe root�*s side struggled to get out the indian tail—enders, before being bowled out themselves forjust 120. our sports correspondentjoe wilson was watching. for india to get to this, it first required this. mohammed shami, in the team for his bowling, got to 50. humbling runs for england as india's tail enders took
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them to a lead of 271. enough, the captain declared. we bowl, stand by. england's second innings featured four players out for nought, including both opening batsman. the race was now india against time. by the tea interval india had taken four wickets, needed six more for victory. now, hang on, is that rain orjust english wishful thinking? cold, hard reality. joe root out for 33 and india's captain now sensed the test itself. but he needed mohammed siraj to bowl fast. there's one for you, ollie robinson. oh, my goodness me! both teams had been aggressive. the match was reaching its limit. nine overs left in the day, joss butlerfaced 96 balls and gone. it was left forjames anderson to try and to fall. and for siraj to sprint towards the future. try stopping india now. joe wilson, bbc news, lords.
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afghanistan has withdrawn from next week's paralympics in tokyo. they were due to be represnted by athletes in taekwando. because of the chaos at kabul airport, they're unable to travel. it's devastating, it's devastating. for me, this was history in the making. this was just, we were going to make history. first female athlete to compete, first paralympian. the growth of paralympians. we wanted through her to use her as a role model to showcase, give her publicity to say, if she is able to do it, you can do it as well to encourage more participants. andy murray beat richard gasquet at the cincinatti open. murray, who has won the tournament twice, eased into the second round with a 6—4, 6—4 victory over gasquet. britain's dan evans is out, beaten by diego schwartzman. naomi osaka broke down in tears during her first news conference since the controversy over refusing to speak to media at the french open.
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osaka became emotional shortly after being asked about "dealing with press conferences", the four time grand slam winner is preparing to play in cincinnati this week. when you say, i'm not crazy about dealing with you guys, what does that refer to? you dealing with you guys, what does that refer to?— that refer to? you have said you don't especially _ that refer to? you have said you don't especially like _ that refer to? you have said you don't especially like the - that refer to? you have said you don't especially like the press i don't especially like the press conference format. that seems to be obviously _ conference format. that seems to be obviously the most widely used means of communicating to the media and through— of communicating to the media and through the media to the public. thats— through the media to the public. that's interesting. i would say the occasion, like, when to do the press conference is what i feel is the most difficult.— conference is what i feel is the most difficult. ok, i think you're 'ust most difficult. ok, ithink you're 'ust aoian most difficult. ok, i think you're just going to _ most difficult. ok, i think you're just going to take _ most difficult. ok, i think you're just going to take a _ most difficult. ok, i think you're just going to take a quick- most difficult. ok, i think you're just going to take a quick break, j most difficult. ok, i think you're i just going to take a quick break, we will be _ just going to take a quick break, we will be back— just going to take a quick break, we will be back in one moment.
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that— will be back in one moment. that is— will be back in one moment. that is hard to watch, and naomi osaka has spoken so powerfully about dealing with the pressure of press conferences and what is going on with her own mental health and here she is having another go, trying to face the press, it's tough. it’s she is having another go, trying to face the press, it's tough.- face the press, it's tough. it's one of those crossover _ face the press, it's tough. it's one of those crossover points, - face the press, it's tough. it's one of those crossover points, what i face the press, it's tough. it's one| of those crossover points, what he did, a lot of people —— what she did, a lot of people —— what she did, talking about things, this takes us nicely to your achievements and things you have been involved in. a lot of praise for a number of documentaries. i’m in. a lot of praise for a number of documentaries.— in. a lot of praise for a number of documentaries. i'm delighted to tell eve bod documentaries. i'm delighted to tell everybody this _ documentaries. i'm delighted to tell everybody this morning, _ documentaries. i'm delighted to tell everybody this morning, delighted l everybody this morning, delighted for our whole team and the people we have been working with. two of our documentaries from last year, which made a very big impact on the viewers, have made it to the final shortlist of the national television awards, i can't quite believe it. huge congratulations to you
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particularly. huge congratulations to you particularly-— huge congratulations to you particularly. huge congratulations to you aarticularl. �* , , ., ., particularly. and my brilliant team and my brilliant _ particularly. and my brilliant team and my brilliant producer - particularly. and my brilliant team and my brilliant producer and i particularly. and my brilliant team. and my brilliant producer and editor who worked so hard on this but we are on the final five. i will remind you a little bit now about rob burrow, he was diagnosed with motor neurone disease, he welcomed us into his home, and talked to us at length about how he and his family are facing up to his diagnosis. the number of _ facing up to his diagnosis. tie: number of people, facing up to his diagnosis. tte: number of people, opposition parents, they used to say, he's good, that robber, but he's never going to make it because he's beginner. going to make it because he's —— not big enough. going to make it because he's -- not big enough-— big enough. they knew that if he got the ball and he _ big enough. they knew that if he got the ball and he set _ big enough. they knew that if he got the ball and he set off _ big enough. they knew that if he got the ball and he set off running, i the ball and he set off running, they— the ball and he set off running, they weren't going to catch him. and not— they weren't going to catch him. and notjust that they weren't going to catch him. and not just that documentary, they weren't going to catch him. and notjust that documentary, the marcus rashford one as well, sally
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has been nominated. it marcus rashford one as well, sally has been nominated.— has been nominated. it was a very bus time has been nominated. it was a very busy time and _ has been nominated. it was a very busy time and lots _ has been nominated. it was a very busy time and lots of _ has been nominated. it was a very busy time and lots of people i has been nominated. it was a very busy time and lots of people at i has been nominated. it was a very i busy time and lots of people at home will remember we worked with marcus rashford following his campaign for free school meals during the really hard times of the pandemic. and we work with marcus every step of the way as he went out to speak to people who are suffering, and he also spoke to people in power. thank ou ve also spoke to people in power. thank you very much _ also spoke to people in power. thank you very much a _ also spoke to people in power. thank you very much a behalf _ also spoke to people in power. thank you very much a behalf of _ also spoke to people in power. thank you very much a behalf of the - you very much a behalf of the famities— you very much a behalf of the families that you are helping, i 'ust families that you are helping, i just want— families that you are helping, i just want to say a big thank you because — just want to say a big thank you because they really appreciate it. speak— because they really appreciate it. speak to — because they really appreciate it. speak to you soon, goodbye. good conversation, good outcome. i think now we _ conversation, good outcome. i think now we have — conversation, good outcome. i think now we have managed finally to be on the same _ now we have managed finally to be on the same page. the main thing for me is it's— the same page. the main thing for me is it's happening, and families are going _ is it's happening, and families are going to _ is it's happening, and families are going to be — is it's happening, and families are going to be a lot better off. i
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going to be a lot better off. should going to be a lot better off. i should say that that phone call was between marcus and the prime minister. i between marcus and the prime minister. , ., between marcus and the prime. minister._ they between marcus and the prime i minister._ they had minister. i remember that! they had 'ust ala ed minister. i remember that! they had just played at _ minister. i remember that! they had just played at everton _ minister. i remember that! they had just played at everton and _ minister. i remember that! they had just played at everton and marcus i just played at everton and marcus just played at everton and marcus just casually got out of his car and answered his phone and it was the prime minister telling him that they had to change the policy. bath prime minister telling him that they had to change the policy.— had to change the policy. both of them more _ had to change the policy. both of them more nominated _ had to change the policy. both of them more nominated and i i had to change the policy. both of| them more nominated and i know had to change the policy. both of- them more nominated and i know the bbc breakfast audience was so emotionally involved in those stories so they can vote, there are other things nominated as well! go to the nta website and find out how to the nta website and find out how to vote. , ., ,, , , to vote. the event is on september nine and voting _ to vote. the event is on september nine and voting is _ to vote. the event is on september nine and voting is open. _ to vote. the event is on september nine and voting is open. good i to vote. the event is on september nine and voting is open. good luck! jodie comer is no stranger to a national television award, or indeed a bafta or an emmy, thanks to her starring role as villanelle in the bbc drama killing eve. she's also on the big screen at the moment, in the fantasy—action comedy free guy. i caught up withjodie via videolink for a chat. i've got to do something really exciting, jodie comer, that i've never done before, are you ready?
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that never wears off, that novelty, it never gets old. can i do it again, just forfun? yes! and now what? now the magic happens. let's talk about the movie first of all. it's called free guy. captain khakis, come here. let's go _ closer. there he is. blue shirt guy. blue shirt, yes. hello, officer. rabbit. the film is split into kind of two parts, one is the real world, one is a video game. and it's about this character called guy who is, he thinks he is in the real world but he's actually an npc, he's a background character in an open world video game. ok, npc stands for a... non—playable character. right. so he's just in the background, you know, kind of stuck in the cycle of doing the same thing every day. and he starts to get these feelings of, you know, there has to be more to this.
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and i play milly, who is a games programmer in the real world and she has an avatar called molotov girl and that's how i meet guy in the video game. tell us a little bit about working with ryan reynolds. i mean, he's everything he's going to be and more. i mean, he's everything you think he's going to be and more. he's really, really wonderful. we should definitely go. is that a glock in your pocket? no. what? it's two glocks. i met him initially for my first audition, and i actually flew to new york the day after we'd wrapped on season two of killing eve. so i was a little bit of a zombie. but he was wonderful, it was him and sean, and he, you know, he creates a really fun, relaxed atmosphere, and is always kind of making sure that everyone is having a good time and everyone feels safe and is happy.
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i've seen you posting on insta, for example, you might be on set but your mum still gets you sunday dinner, is that right? yeah, well, i was lucky enough, we were filming in liverpool at the start of the year and i never, i've never really gotten the opportunity to do that. and we were shooting a film called help for channel 4, and, yeah, my mum does a roast dinner every sunday and we were working on sundays and i asked my driver, i was like, will you please, do you mind picking up my roast dinnerfrom home? and the legend, he did, and i got to eat it on set. and of course i had to show it off to everyone because i was so happy, i was so smug! why wouldn't you ? and you work in that with one of your, i think he's really help to you, we've talked to him about you, he's really helped you, we've talked to him about you, stephen graham, on help as well. you have a really good close relationship, don't you? yeah, definitely.
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i mean, we speak near enough every day. stephen's wonderful. he kind of gave me my first start, he introduced me to his agent who is now my agent, and since we first worked together on that one day on good cop, we've been pestering jane, our agent, to find a job for us to do together. nothing ever kind of came up. so it was really incredible that we were able to, you know, work with jack thorne on this project and be a part of it from the very beginning and get some proper screen time together, it was amazing. i know that you were at school and are still friends with katarina johnson—thompson, for example. yeah. oh, my gosh, did you watch her? that must have been really tough as a friend. i know! well, i've been doing press for the past couple of days so i was kind of locked away in a room, but we were speaking to all the girls on whatsapp, and everyone was keeping each other up—to—date. but, yeah, i heard she's home soon, we're all planning to kind of get her in our arms and hopefully
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she can kind of let her hair down and relax for a little while. but we are all just so fiercely, fiercely proud of her. so much going on with you, not least season four of killing eve. what can we look forward to? i can't say anything! we are halfway through, is what i can say. the series gets off to a very interesting start, you know, there's a particular episode for villanelle that we really kind of breaks boundaries with her. they're really pushing the boat out. we know this is the final season now so i think it's kind of like, anything goes in a way. so that was really fun. but, yeah, i'm sworn to secrecy so i'm going to shut up before i say any more. final question, do you like villanelle? i love her! i love her. i've spent so much time
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with her and i think i'm going to miss getting away with all that trouble and not having to apologise for it and not having to feel guilty for anything. you know, that kind of mischief. and also just being on the set and being in really absurd situations. it's so weird but it's so fun. thank you very much for your time here on bbc breakfast. thank you, lovely to chat. can you say a nice goodbye in the homejodie? bye, everyone! you take care, jodie. take care, bye. lovely to see her and we will have a longer version of that interview later on. labour is calling on the prime minister to urgently increase efforts to help afghans whose lives may now be in danger because they have previously worked with uk forces. the government is expected to release details of its plans to help refugees soon. let's talk now to the shadow foreign minister, stephen kinnock. good morning, thank you forjoining us. let's start first of all with
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joe biden, the us president who has been defending their decision to pull out of afghanistan, a day after what we saw happening in afghanistan and kabul, what you make of he said? no one ever said that we wanted to have troops in afghanistan forever, but there have been chaotic scenes on the ground, heartbreaking to see how difficult it is for people to leave who are in fear of their lives, and particularly those brave afghans who have supported our armed forces and our development and humanitarian work. we have a moral duty to protect and support those people and i'm afraid that the government has completely failed to live up to that moral duty and we need to see much more rapid and urgent action from the prime minister and the foreign secretary and the defence secretary immediately, we need to hear more about that in a special debate in parliament tomorrow. irate
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about that in a special debate in parliament tomorrow.— about that in a special debate in parliament tomorrow. we heard from ben wallace — parliament tomorrow. we heard from ben wallace yesterday _ parliament tomorrow. we heard from ben wallace yesterday saying - parliament tomorrow. we heard from ben wallace yesterday saying they i ben wallace yesterday saying they are speeding up things, as much as they can at the airport, but he said some people will be left behind. it's shocking, three years ago the defence select committee put forward a report which was very strongly critical of the government in its complete failure to support the interpreters who have put their lives on the line to support our military effort in afghanistan, that's three years the government has done nothing about it. the labour front bench and the labour party have been raising these concerns consistently and now here we are with the afghan government having fallen over. and those people are really exposed, they are at tremendous risk. it's heartbreaking to see and we simply have to recognise that the british government has been completely asleep on the wheel at this issue. you say the prime minister is preparing, we understand, to release
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a new and bespoke resettlement scheme for afghans who are in most need. there is talk about this new plan coming soon. irate need. there is talk about this new plan coming soon.— need. there is talk about this new plan coming soon. we would certainly welcome that. — plan coming soon. we would certainly welcome that, we _ plan coming soon. we would certainly welcome that, we need _ plan coming soon. we would certainly welcome that, we need to _ plan coming soon. we would certainly welcome that, we need to see - plan coming soon. we would certainly welcome that, we need to see an i welcome that, we need to see an ambitious and bold offerfrom welcome that, we need to see an ambitious and bold offer from the welcome that, we need to see an ambitious and bold offerfrom the uk government, but it must also be backed up with the capability of processing the scheme, because we have seen our ability to deliver on promises to date has been sorely lacking. it's really important that the british government doesn't come out with an announcement today, that builds up expectations that it cannot be delivered on, but we also need to see the british government being ready to do far more to secure safe passage for those people that we oh a debt of gratitude to, and i'm afraid the chaotic and shambolic scenes coming out of kabul, it is a
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very dark day for us. it has not been the government 's finest hour and we need to a serious improvement in its performance because people's lives are at stake. it in its performance because people's lives are at stake.— lives are at stake. it sounds difficult to _ lives are at stake. it sounds difficult to put _ lives are at stake. it sounds difficult to put numbers i lives are at stake. it sounds difficult to put numbers on | lives are at stake. it sounds | difficult to put numbers on it lives are at stake. it sounds i difficult to put numbers on it but would you put a number on the number of people who should be included in a resettlement scheme? it’s a resettlement scheme? it's difficult to — a resettlement scheme? it's difficult to make _ a resettlement scheme? it�*s difficult to make an assessment of that without having the facts and the data that the british government has at its fingertips. but i saw that the canadian government had made an offer of i think 20000 and we meet to make sure that we make a bold and significant offer —— we need to make sure that we make a bold and significant offer, because we are seeing in afghanistan people in fear. we have a brutal and violent regime now running the country, and we have to make sure that we offer that hand of friendship to the afghan people,
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because as things have been unfolding over the last few weeks, we have let them down badly and we have to do something to rectify that situation. irate have to do something to rectify that situation. ~ ~' ., have to do something to rectify that situation. ~ ,, ., ., ., situation. we know that there are third parties _ situation. we know that there are third parties involved _ situation. we know that there are third parties involved here, i situation. we know that there are third parties involved here, do i situation. we know that there are | third parties involved here, do you think the government should be talking directly to the taliban in order that that can happen? the taliban has _ order that that can happen? tt9: taliban has come to order that that can happen? tt9 taliban has come to power through violence and force, some of which has been utterly horrific over years. certainly talk of recognition of the taliban government is hugely premature. but we have to face facts. the taliban are now in control, they will be running afghanistan for the foreseeable future, and we need to be able to ensure that they can facilitate safe passage for those who are engaged in humanitarian work and also that we can get the people out of afghanistan that we need to get out of the. and i think we won't be able to do that without having conversations with the taliban so we
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have to be realistic and pragmatic, but it's got to be very focused on the humanitarian effort and on securing safe passage. stephen kinnock, thank _ securing safe passage. stephen kinnock, thank you _ securing safe passage. stephen kinnock, thank you very - securing safe passage. stephen kinnock, thank you very much . securing safe passage. stephen i kinnock, thank you very much for your time on bbc breakfast. we will be speaking to the foreign secretary at 7:30am, asking more questions about what exactly is happening this morning at the airport, we saw those images from yesterday, very chaotic scenes, we are trying to find out exactly what is happening there and what plans there are to help refugees over the next weeks and months. irate there are to help refugees over the next weeks and months.— next weeks and months. we are s-eaakin next weeks and months. we are speaking to _ next weeks and months. we are speaking to lots _ next weeks and months. we are speaking to lots of _ next weeks and months. we are speaking to lots of different i next weeks and months. we are i speaking to lots of different people on this subject including people who are actually in afghanistan, in kabul as well, to find out the situation. and also the impact particularly on women in the country. cou ntry. let's have country. let's have a look at the weather, carol has the details for us. good morning everyone. this morning
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it is a misty and murky stance to the day, there is some fog around, it is pretty dull and cloudy, the low cloud is resting on the hills in keswick, and quite a bit of dampness coming out of the cloud in the shape of some light rain or drizzle. that is the story for the next few days. a limited amount of sunshine. a lot of cloud this morning, the breeze coming from the north—west is dragging in moisture from the north sea producing some light rain and drizzle. the rain across the north of england pushing down to the south—east and clearing, so we could see some afternoon brightness here as we could across parts of the west country and south east wales. move north through northern england, some breaks in the north—east, other than that, it will be cloudy and damp across northern england and ireland, eastern scotland and shetland could see some brightness through the day. temperatures 14 to 20 degrees, top
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temperature yesterday was in perth and kinross, reaching 21.8. through the evening and overnight, we hang onto this cloud, there will still be some patchy light rain and drizzle, and we will also see some more rain coming in across shetland. this means it is not going to be a cold night, double figures for most of us. into tomorrow, once again, we are looking at a fair bit of cloud, rather like today. it will break in the shelter of the mountains, perhaps down towards dorset we could see some brightness as well. temperatures 14 to 21 degrees. less of a breeze tomorrow then we are looking at today. on thursday, a drier day for most of us, a bit more sunshine around, still some cloud and we have a weather front coming in from the south—west. that's drifting steadily eastwards and weakening as it does so. it does look like it's going to bring some
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rain, eradicating a brighter start in the south—east. the northern extent might take it into northern england, it's something we are keeping a close eye on. still below average temperatures for the time of year, normally it would be 20 to 24, north acai. —— north to south. on friday, the majority of the uk will have dry sunshine, but in the west another friend have dry sunshine, but in the west anotherfriend is coming in introducing some rain, —— another front is coming in. that will get to northern ireland through the day. 20 in glasgow, 23 in london. beyond that for the outlook, it does remain unsettled. it looks like as we head into the weekend we will see some spells of rain. the other thing you'll notice about the weekend whether it is that the temperature is going to rise a little bit, especially in the south—east during the course of saturday. into sunday,
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we are looking at the rain coming through, orsome we are looking at the rain coming through, or some showers which could be heavy and thundery in places. monday has something a little bit more settled but it looks like may be in the next week we will finally see the temperatures rise a little bit more than they had been. i will keep you updated. the headlines are coming up.
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good morning, welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and louise minchin. our headlines today. after the taliban seize power in afghanistan, a defiantjoe biden defends his decision to pull us troops out of the country. i stand squarely behind my decision. after 20 years, i've learned the hard way that there was never a good time to withdraw us forces. more british troops are sent to help with the evacuation from kabul airport after chaotic scenes yesterday. more misery for haiti — days after 1400 people died in an earthquake, rescue efforts are being hampered by a tropical storm.
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naomi osaka struggles through a press conference at the cincinatti open. it was her first since withdrawing from the french open to protect her mental health. and the rude road trip — we meet the man on a moped planning to visit the places with the cheekiest names in the uk. good morning. it's tuesday, august 17th. our top story. president biden has defended his decision to withdraw us troops from afghanistan. he admitted surprise at how quickly the taliban seized power, but blamed afghanistan's leaders for the defeat. military planes are reported to have begun flying again from kabul airport this morning, after yesterday's chaotic scenes, when hundreds of afghans tried to board aircraft. our correspondentjohn mcmanus has the latest. breaking short his summer holiday,
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president biden flew into washington dc on monday, to answer the charge that he had overseen a majorforeign policy disaster for afghanistan, and perhaps the world. he admitted that events over the past week had caught his government by surprise, but he was in no mood to apologise. we gave them every tool they could need. we paid their salaries, provided for the maintenance of their air force. we gave them every chance to determine their own future. mr biden said the buck stopped with him. but... i am left again to ask of those who argue that we should stay, how many more generations of america's daughters and sons would you have me send to fight afghanistan's civil war? as he spoke, thousands of miles away the taliban, armed and confident, had taken control of the streets of kabul,
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now able to walk in unopposed to government buildings. they are the government now. for many it's a nightmare. it's worse than what i thought, because they are searching to our addresses. and it's not only my life, but also my family life right now is in danger. we are facing more and more threats than before, because before our identity was not being clear to the taliban. now they know our name, ourface, ouraddress, our phone numbers, everything. fearing the future, many afghans are trying to leave in any way they can. their desperation evident in these scenes at kabul airport. the us says it has now secured the airport in order to evacuate americans and otherforeigners. yet some people are managing to get
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out. this evacuation flight took off with an astonishing 640 afghan refugees on board. charities in the uk have urged the government to help refugees fleeing the taliban to settle in britain. ministers say that more than 3000 afghan interpreters and their families who worked with uk forces, have been resettled, and they're working to bring more to britain. details of a new scheme to welcome afghan refugees to the uk is due to be announced in the coming days. we are obviously a bighearted nation. we've got the criteria for asylum set in law. we worked with the un on that. we are working very carefully at what kind of further commitment we might make. the prime minister borisjohnson says he wants the un security council to urgently meet to discuss the international community's next steps. but china has already said it wants friendly relations with afghanistan's new recruits, while russia has said it believes the taliban will restore order. john mcmanus, bbc news. our political correspondent, helen catt, is in westminster.
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morning to you. what response has there been from the uk government to what president biden said yesterday evening? what president biden said yesterday evenina ? , . ., , what president biden said yesterday evenina? , : ., , ., evening? there is certainly a sliahtl evening? there is certainly a slightly different _ evening? there is certainly a slightly different tone - evening? there is certainly a | slightly different tone coming evening? there is certainly a i slightly different tone coming out of the _ slightly different tone coming out of the uk government. the foreign secretary— of the uk government. the foreign secretary yesterday said the situation in afghanistan was not what _ situation in afghanistan was not what we — situation in afghanistan was not what we wanted. but that we needed to deal— what we wanted. but that we needed to deal with the new reality. the government's focus here continues to be on _ government's focus here continues to be on that, _ government's focus here continues to be on that, i'm getting british nationals, those afghans who help to british— nationals, those afghans who help to british forces come out of the country— british forces come out of the country as— british forces come out of the country as quickly as possible and trying _ country as quickly as possible and trying to— country as quickly as possible and trying to avoid a humanitarian crisis — trying to avoid a humanitarian crisis by— trying to avoid a humanitarian crisis by trying to coordinate an international response. a downing street— international response. a downing street spokesperson said the uk team in afghanistan was working round—the—clock to an incredibly difficult — round—the—clock to an incredibly difficult circumstances to help british— difficult circumstances to help british nationals and as many others as we _ british nationals and as many others as we can _ british nationals and as many others as we can to— british nationals and as many others as we can to get to safety as soon as we can to get to safety as soon as you — as we can to get to safety as soon as you heard in the report, there are efforts — as you heard in the report, there are efforts to get world leaders to talk, _ are efforts to get world leaders to talk, to _ are efforts to get world leaders to talk, to come up with an international response. the government is said to announce a new bespoke _ government is said to announce a new bespoke scheme to allow afghan
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refugees to resettle in the uk. it is thought— refugees to resettle in the uk. it is thought it will be along the tines — is thought it will be along the lines of— is thought it will be along the lines of a _ is thought it will be along the lines of a scheme set up for syrian refugees— lines of a scheme set up for syrian refugees in— lines of a scheme set up for syrian refugees in 2014. that helped 20,000 syrians— refugees in 2014. that helped 20,000 syrians settle in the uk over five years _ syrians settle in the uk over five years at — syrians settle in the uk over five years. at the moment we don't have a sense _ years. at the moment we don't have a sense of— years. at the moment we don't have a sense of how— years. at the moment we don't have a sense of how many people will be helped _ sense of how many people will be helped it — sense of how many people will be helped. it is suggested it would be to help _ helped. it is suggested it would be to help those afghans who are most in need. _ to help those afghans who are most in need, particularly women and children — in need, particularly women and children. but of course the issue there _ children. but of course the issue there is— children. but of course the issue there is how will people access this scheme _ there is how will people access this scheme with the taliban takeover of afghanistan so complete? it could be quite difficult for women particularly to access this scheme. helena _ particularly to access this scheme. helen, thank you very much. we'll be speaking to the foreign secretary dominic raab at around 7.30. a tropical storm has hit the island of haiti, just three days after an earthquake which killed at least 1400 people. a further 7,000 were injured in the quake, and hospitals are struggling to care for them, as our correspondent james clayton reports. many of these people were asleep when the earthquake hit,
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their homes caving in. it's hard enough to treat survivors of any natural disaster, but when the hospitals themselves are under fear of collapse, it makes it all the more difficult. well, this hospital is simply too unsafe to have people stay inside, so they've brought everyone outside here. they've tried to place them undertrees, undertents, to try and keep them cooler and out of the hot sun. but what you're seeing here, just 48 hours after the quake, the doctors have run out of painkillers, they've run out of antibiotics and there are major concerns about things like infection. elsie had just woken up when the earthquake hit. her son has a serious compound fracture and needs to be taken to the airport to be lifted out. seeing him in such pain is overwhelming. there simply aren't enough facilities to treat people in this remote part of the country. from the hospital some of the injured are taken to this
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airport, waiting for a flight out to the capital port—au—prince. like 19—year—old tanya, who is pregnant. so you woke up and basically tried to run out, but then the house collapsed on top of her? she says her leg hurts and she has abdominal pain. most of the hospitals here are in need of the basics. iv solutions, bandages, medications, including antibiotics and pain management medications. they're in the same situation where they've run out. overall it's dire. you know, we're sitting here with three hospitals that are moving patients to the airport for transportation out. there no coordination. a tropical storm here is also preventing flights in and out of the capital. the people here need help, but at the moment not enough is coming. james clayton, bbc news. the musician bob dylan has been accused of sexually abusing a 12—year—old girl at the height of his fame in the 1960s. the allegations were made in a civil case in a new york court by a woman known only asjc.
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a spokesperson for bob dylan, whose real name is robert zimmerman, said the claim is "untrue", and will be vigorously defended. from today, plasma can be taken from blood donations in england to produce life—saving medicine. a ban on british donor plasma came into force in 1998, because of concerns about so—called mad cow disease, but it has now been ruled safe. around 17,000 patients benefit every yearfrom immuno—globulins, which are derived from blood plasma. nine minutes past seven. more now and the main story. the taliban's return to power is a threat to many hard—won freedoms in afghanistan, particularly those gained by women and girls. nine years ago, malala yousafzai refused a taliban order to give up her schooling in neighbouring pakistan, and she was shot in the head. as we know, malala survived and now lives in the uk. she's been speaking to sima kotecha about the events of the last few days.
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iam i am deeply concerned about the situation in afghanistan right now, especially about the safety of women and girls there. a lot of them remember what was happening in the 1996 until 2001 time, and they are deeply worried about their safety, their life, their protection. they are worried about their access to school. we have already seen news reports that many girls have been sent back from university, a lot of them have been asked to get married at aged 15, 12. irate them have been asked to get married at aged 15. 12.— at aged 15, 12. we know that previously — at aged 15, 12. we know that previously under _ at aged 15, 12. we know that previously under taliban i at aged 15, 12. we know that i previously under taliban control women were stoned for adultery, their limbs were cut off for theft, girls were prevented from going to school. we heard yesterday the taliban made some assurances that that would not be the case this time around. are you convinced this won't happen again? t around. are you convinced this won't happen again?— happen again? i think the activism of women over _ happen again? i think the activism of women over the _ happen again? i think the activism of women over the past _ happen again? i think the activism of women over the past many, i happen again? i think the activism i of women over the past many, many years has put a lot of pressure on
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the taliban right now. that they cannot openly, you know, stop women from their work. but still they are saying this in very loose terms and very vague terms. so there is no guarantee. everything is at the initial stages but also at local levels there are reports that we are receiving are worrying. we are seeing some shocking images on our screens right now, people are just escaping, they are finding a way to keep themselves safe. when you see that you realise that this is actually an urgent humanitarian crisis right now.— actually an urgent humanitarian crisis right now. when you see the americans — crisis right now. when you see the americans and _ crisis right now. when you see the americans and the _ crisis right now. when you see the americans and the british - crisis right now. when you see the americans and the british have i americans and the british have pulled out of their troops from afghanistan, how do you personally feel about that? is there somebody responsible, do you think, for the unfolding situation? i responsible, do you think, for the unfolding situation?— unfolding situation? i feel a lot of --eole unfolding situation? i feel a lot of peeple are _ unfolding situation? i feel a lot of people are responsible, _ unfolding situation? i feel a lot of people are responsible, a - unfolding situation? i feel a lot of people are responsible, a lot - unfolding situation? i feel a lot of people are responsible, a lot of i people are responsible, a lot of states are responsible. there has
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been very little interest in focusing on the humanitarian aid and the humanitarian work in afghanistan. there had been very little focus on strengthening the democracy there. there has been very little focus on eradicating extremist ideologies. i think every country, every group is finding their own interest in it and their own benefits. but i think it's time they put their interests aside and stand up for humanity, because peace in afghanistan is notjust for the people of afghanistan, it is for the piece of neighbouring countries, it is for the peace of this world. henge is for the peace of this world. have ou is for the peace of this world. have you reached _ is for the peace of this world. have you reached out _ is for the peace of this world. have you reached out to _ is for the peace of this world. have you reached out to boris _ is for the peace of this world. have you reached out to borisjohnson and president biden? i you reached out to boris johnson and president biden?— you reached out to boris johnson and president biden? i have been making attem ts to president biden? i have been making attempts to reach _ president biden? i have been making attempts to reach out _ president biden? i have been making attempts to reach out to _ president biden? i have been making attempts to reach out to them, - president biden? i have been making attempts to reach out to them, to . attempts to reach out to them, to president biden. i have not yet made contact with prime minister boris johnson. but whoever can hear me right now, i think it's important for them to remember that they have such an important strategic leadership role to play right now. countries need to open their borders
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to afghan refugees, due to these displaced people. the un must find a resolution that prioritises the safety of the civilians. they must focus on minorities, and women and girls. focus on minorities, and women and uirls. ~ . , focus on minorities, and women and irls.. ., ,,., focus on minorities, and women and uirls. ., ., girls. what is your message to the afu han girls. what is your message to the afghan peeple. — girls. what is your message to the afghan people, especially - girls. what is your message to the afghan people, especially the - girls. what is your message to the i afghan people, especially the afghan women, as a female activist? my messaue women, as a female activist? m message to all women, as a female activist? m1: message to all afghan girls women, as a female activist? m1 message to all afghan girls and women is that i stand with you. i will stand for your rights, for your right to have a future, for your right to have a future, for your right to have access to education and your right to have access to your dreams. no one should deny you those rights. you should not be sent back to homes and not be allowed to go to school, not be allowed to do a job. you are humans, you have equal rights as everyone else. and i command everyone else, will stand with you, we will protect your rights. and our voices are there together with your voice two. forgive me, malala, but it is easy to say that. we have heard from
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those women on so many are so scared, as we have said before. how can you say to them, be brave and we stand by you, when many fearfor their lives? stand by you, when many fear for their lives?— stand by you, when many fear for their lives? �* i, i, i, i, their lives? afghan women have gone throuh their lives? afghan women have gone throu u h this their lives? afghan women have gone through this life _ their lives? afghan women have gone through this life under— their lives? afghan women have gone through this life under the _ their lives? afghan women have gone through this life under the taliban - through this life under the taliban for many, many years. and many of them still stay strong. they are still raising their voices. and we must give more opportunities and time to them to tell us what needs to be done for peace in afghanistan. malala, thank you so much for your time. thank you for talking to us. thank you so much. thanks. malala yousafzai. we're joined now from afghanistan by fawzia koofi, a women's rights activist who was also the country's first female deputy speaker of parliament. we're not showing her, for her own protection. we're also joined by university lecturer obaidullah baheer, who is in kabul.
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morning to you both. thank you for joining us. so much to talk about. give us your assessment of what is going on and what the situation is where you are?— going on and what the situation is where you are? thank you. we all know that — where you are? thank you. we all know that the _ where you are? thank you. we all know that the situation _ where you are? thank you. we all know that the situation changed i where you are? thank you. we all i know that the situation changed very rapidly— know that the situation changed very rapidly in _ know that the situation changed very rapidly in the past few days. the last city— rapidly in the past few days. the last city to — rapidly in the past few days. the last city to fall to the taliban was kabul _ last city to fall to the taliban was kabul. across afghanistan i have been _ kabul. across afghanistan i have been in — kabul. across afghanistan i have been in contact with people, not only women, but also men, who are in uncertainty _ only women, but also men, who are in uncertainty. they don't know what will happen to them. there is a complete — will happen to them. there is a complete vacuum of power. and a lawlessness in the society. and of course _ lawlessness in the society. and of course in — lawlessness in the society. and of course in such a military situation, women _ course in such a military situation, women are — course in such a military situation, women are the first victims, not only— women are the first victims, not only in— women are the first victims, not only in the — women are the first victims, not only in the battlefield or the war, they are — only in the battlefield or the war, they are targeted, their houses are targeted. _ they are targeted, their houses are targeted, they have to flee their villages— targeted, they have to flee their villages and communities, to come to
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kabul _ villages and communities, to come to kabul they— villages and communities, to come to kabul. they keep contacting me, they don't know— kabul. they keep contacting me, they don't know where to go. but also, in terms _ don't know where to go. but also, in terms of— don't know where to go. but also, in terms of the — don't know where to go. but also, in terms of the extreme way of enforcing sharia law in some places. my major— enforcing sharia law in some places. my major concern is that of those who are _ my major concern is that of those who are the foot soldiers of the taliban, — who are the foot soldiers of the taliban, and they are not educated in some _ taliban, and they are not educated in some places, not islamic education, or secular education, they— education, or secular education, they will— education, or secular education, they will try to impose their own way and — they will try to impose their own way and interpretation of tradition, so its— way and interpretation of tradition, so it's a _ way and interpretation of tradition, so it's a very— way and interpretation of tradition, so it's a very chaotic situation. and _ so it's a very chaotic situation. and i— so it's a very chaotic situation. and i feel— so it's a very chaotic situation. and i feel embarrassed to see the airport _ and i feel embarrassed to see the airport. and then president biden says that — airport. and then president biden says that he stands by his decision. they will— says that he stands by his decision. they will not stay in afghanistan forever, — they will not stay in afghanistan forever, which i guess nobody wants any foreign — forever, which i guess nobody wants any foreign force to be in their country— any foreign force to be in their country forever. but there was a right _ country forever. but there was a right time — country forever. but there was a right time for the withdrawal, which president _ right time for the withdrawal, which president biden could wait. you right time for the withdrawal, which president biden could wait.- president biden could wait. you are a kabul resident _ president biden could wait. you are a kabul resident and _
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president biden could wait. you are a kabul resident and lecturer- president biden could wait. you are a kabul resident and lecturer at - president biden could wait. you are a kabul resident and lecturer at the | a kabul resident and lecturer at the american university of afghanistan. can you tell us what you can about the situation of this morning in kabul? i the situation of this morning in kabul? ,., ., ., kabul? i saw someone tweet earlier that ice cream _ kabul? i saw someone tweet earlier that ice cream vendors _ kabul? i saw someone tweet earlier that ice cream vendors are - kabul? i saw someone tweet earlier that ice cream vendors are open - that ice cream vendors are open again— that ice cream vendors are open again and — that ice cream vendors are open again and they— that ice cream vendors are open again and they were _ that ice cream vendors are open again and they were happy- that ice cream vendors are openi again and they were happy about that _ again and they were happy about that. yesterday, _ again and they were happy about that. yesterday, close _ again and they were happy about that. yesterday, close to - again and they were happy about that. yesterday, close to the - that. yesterday, close to the evening, _ that. yesterday, close to the evening, we _ that. yesterday, close to the evening, we had— that. yesterday, close to the evening, we had shops - that. yesterday, close to the . evening, we had shops opened that. yesterday, close to the - evening, we had shops opened up again _ evening, we had shops opened up again the — evening, we had shops opened up again. the taliban— evening, we had shops opened up again. the taliban on— evening, we had shops opened up again. the taliban on the - evening, we had shops opened up again. the taliban on the streetsl again. the taliban on the streets were _ again. the taliban on the streets were urging _ again. the taliban on the streets were urging shopkeepers- again. the taliban on the streets were urging shopkeepers to - again. the taliban on the streets| were urging shopkeepers to open their shops — were urging shopkeepers to open their shops and _ were urging shopkeepers to open their shops and return _ were urging shopkeepers to open their shops and return to - were urging shopkeepers to open their shops and return to normall their shops and return to normal life _ their shops and return to normal life i_ their shops and return to normal life i did — their shops and return to normal life. i did approach— their shops and return to normal life. i did approach one - their shops and return to normal i life. i did approach one commander who had _ life. i did approach one commander who had 30 — life. i did approach one commander who had 30 people _ life. i did approach one commander who had 30 people in _ life. i did approach one commander who had 30 people in his— life. i did approach one commander who had 30 people in his unit. - life. i did approach one commander who had 30 people in his unit. i- who had 30 people in his unit. i asked _ who had 30 people in his unit. i asked him — who had 30 people in his unit. i asked him if— who had 30 people in his unit. i asked him if i— who had 30 people in his unit. i asked him if i could _ who had 30 people in his unit. i asked him if i could record - who had 30 people in his unit. i asked him if i could record a - who had 30 people in his unit. i. asked him if i could record a video of him _ asked him if i could record a video of him so — asked him if i could record a video of him so that— asked him if i could record a video of him so that he _ asked him if i could record a video of him so that he could _ asked him if i could record a video of him so that he could help- asked him if i could record a video of him so that he could help put. of him so that he could help put people — of him so that he could help put people at— of him so that he could help put people at ease _ of him so that he could help put people at ease. he _ of him so that he could help put people at ease. he called - of him so that he could help put people at ease. he called some| people at ease. he called some higher— people at ease. he called some higher up— people at ease. he called some higher up to _ people at ease. he called some higher up to seek— people at ease. he called some higher up to seek permission i people at ease. he called some i higher up to seek permission and he was denied — higher up to seek permission and he was denied without _ higher up to seek permission and he was denied without permission. i higher up to seek permission and he was denied without permission. so i higher up to seek permission and he i was denied without permission. so he apologised _ was denied without permission. so he apologised the — was denied without permission. so he apologised. the problem _ was denied without permission. so he apologised. the problem is— was denied without permission. so he apologised. the problem is the - apologised. the problem is the afghan— apologised. the problem is the afghan government, _ apologised. the problem is the afghan government, or- apologised. the problem is the afghan government, or the i apologised. the problem is the i afghan government, or the afghan state _ afghan government, or the afghan state right— afghan government, or the afghan state right now. _ afghan government, or the afghan state right now, is _ afghan government, or the afghan state right now, is a _ afghan government, or the afghan state right now, is a headless i
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state right now, is a headless chicken — state right now, is a headless chicken. there _ state right now, is a headless chicken. there is _ state right now, is a headless chicken. there is security, i state right now, is a headless i chicken. there is security, which is very— chicken. there is security, which is very passively _ chicken. there is security, which is very passively hoping _ chicken. there is security, which is very passively hoping to _ chicken. there is security, which is very passively hoping to be - very passively hoping to be deterrents _ very passively hoping to be deterrents to _ very passively hoping to be deterrents to any- very passively hoping to be deterrents to any crime i very passively hoping to be - deterrents to any crime occurring, but there — deterrents to any crime occurring, but there is — deterrents to any crime occurring, but there is no— deterrents to any crime occurring, but there is no government. - deterrents to any crime occurring, but there is no government. we . deterrents to any crime occurring, i but there is no government. we are still not _ but there is no government. we are still not clear— but there is no government. we are still not clear as _ but there is no government. we are still not clear as to _ but there is no government. we are still not clear as to what _ but there is no government. we are still not clear as to what the - but there is no government. we are still not clear as to what the next i still not clear as to what the next step by— still not clear as to what the next step by the — still not clear as to what the next step by the taliban _ still not clear as to what the next step by the taliban leadership i still not clear as to what the next step by the taliban leadership isi step by the taliban leadership is going _ step by the taliban leadership is going to — step by the taliban leadership is going to be _ step by the taliban leadership is going to be do— step by the taliban leadership is going to be. do they— step by the taliban leadership is going to be. do they want - step by the taliban leadership is going to be. do they want to i step by the taliban leadership is going to be. do they want to sit| going to be. do they want to sit down _ going to be. do they want to sit down with— going to be. do they want to sit down with other— going to be. do they want to sit down with other afghan - going to be. do they want to sit down with other afghan leaders going to be. do they want to sit i down with other afghan leaders and discuss _ down with other afghan leaders and discuss a _ down with other afghan leaders and discuss a way — down with other afghan leaders and discuss a way forward? _ down with other afghan leaders and discuss a way forward? are - down with other afghan leaders and discuss a way forward? are they- down with other afghan leaders andl discuss a way forward? are theyjust going _ discuss a way forward? are theyjust going to _ discuss a way forward? are theyjust going to land — discuss a way forward? are theyjust going to land in— discuss a way forward? are theyjust going to land in afghanistan - discuss a way forward? are theyjust going to land in afghanistan and i going to land in afghanistan and take over? — going to land in afghanistan and take over? all— going to land in afghanistan and take over? all of— going to land in afghanistan and take over? all of those - going to land in afghanistan and take over? all of those are i take over? all of those are questions _ take over? all of those are questions that— take over? all of those are questions that remain i take over? all of those are questions that remain to l take over? all of those are i questions that remain to be take over? all of those are - questions that remain to be seen. it's really— questions that remain to be seen. it's really sad _ questions that remain to be seen. it's really sad. the _ questions that remain to be seen. it's really sad. the afghan - questions that remain to be seen. it's really sad. the afghan people| it's really sad. the afghan people were _ it's really sad. the afghan people were deserted. _ it's really sad. the afghan people were deserted. we _ it's really sad. the afghan people were deserted. we saw— it's really sad. the afghan people were deserted. we saw two i it's really sad. the afghan people i were deserted. we saw two different images _ were deserted. we saw two different images of— were deserted. we saw two different images of the — were deserted. we saw two different images of the world. _ were deserted. we saw two different images of the world. the _ were deserted. we saw two different images of the world. the taliban i images of the world. the taliban image _ images of the world. the taliban image of— images of the world. the taliban image of the _ images of the world. the taliban image of the radical— images of the world. the taliban image of the radical world - images of the world. the taliban image of the radical world and i images of the world. the taliban. image of the radical world and the more _ image of the radical world and the more liberal— image of the radical world and the more liberal image _ image of the radical world and the more liberal image the _ image of the radical world and the i more liberal image the government was supposed — more liberal image the government was supposed to _ more liberal image the government was supposed to defend. _ more liberal image the government was supposed to defend. if- more liberal image the government was supposed to defend. if this i more liberal image the government was supposed to defend. if this warj was supposed to defend. if this war -- war— was supposed to defend. if this war -- war was— was supposed to defend. if this war -- warwas going _ was supposed to defend. if this war -- warwas going to— was supposed to defend. if this war —— war was going to end, _ was supposed to defend. if this war —— war was going to end, part- was supposed to defend. if this war —— war was going to end, part of. was supposed to defend. if this wari —— war was going to end, part of the peace _ —— war was going to end, part of the peace building — —— war was going to end, part of the peace building process— —— war was going to end, part of the peace building process should - —— war was going to end, part of the peace building process should havel peace building process should have been reconciling _ peace building process should have been reconciling those _ peace building process should have been reconciling those images. i peace building process should have. been reconciling those images. they pulled _ been reconciling those images. they pulled out _ been reconciling those images. they pulled out of— been reconciling those images. they pulled out of the _ been reconciling those images. they pulled out of the rug. _ been reconciling those images. they pulled out of the rug. the _ pulled out of the rug. the government— pulled out of the rug. the government escaped. i pulled out of the rug. the i government escaped. biden pulled out of the rug. the - government escaped. biden acts pulled out of the rug. the _ government escaped. biden acts like he has _ government escaped. biden acts like he has no _ government escaped. biden acts like he has no responsibility— government escaped. biden acts like he has no responsibility towards- he has no responsibility towards afghanistan, _ he has no responsibility towards afghanistan, which _ he has no responsibility towards afghanistan, which is _ he has no responsibility towards afghanistan, which is quite i he has no responsibility towards.
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afghanistan, which is quite ironic. seeing _ afghanistan, which is quite ironic. seeing how— afghanistan, which is quite ironic. seeing how his _ afghanistan, which is quite ironic. seeing how his son— afghanistan, which is quite ironic. seeing how his son forward - afghanistan, which is quite ironic. seeing how his son forward here. | afghanistan, which is quite ironic. i seeing how his son forward here. all of that— seeing how his son forward here. all of that put— seeing how his son forward here. all of that put aside, _ seeing how his son forward here. all of that put aside, it _ seeing how his son forward here. all of that put aside, it means _ seeing how his son forward here. all of that put aside, it means the - of that put aside, it means the common— of that put aside, it means the common man _ of that put aside, it means the common man now— of that put aside, it means the common man now has- of that put aside, it means the common man now has to i of that put aside, it means the common man now has to find i of that put aside, it means the| common man now has to find a of that put aside, it means the i common man now has to find a way of that put aside, it means the - common man now has to find a way to negotiate _ common man now has to find a way to negotiate life — common man now has to find a way to negotiate life moving _ common man now has to find a way to negotiate life moving forward - common man now has to find a way to negotiate life moving forward with i negotiate life moving forward with the taliban — negotiate life moving forward with the taliban. and _ negotiate life moving forward with the taliban. and the _ negotiate life moving forward with the taliban. and the president i negotiate life moving forward withl the taliban. and the president left. now we _ the taliban. and the president left. now we are — the taliban. and the president left. now we are living _ the taliban. and the president left. now we are living in— the taliban. and the president left. now we are living in a _ the taliban. and the president left. now we are living in a lawless i the taliban. and the president left. now we are living in a lawless city. | now we are living in a lawless city. you are _ now we are living in a lawless city. you are a _ now we are living in a lawless city. you are a university— now we are living in a lawless city. you are a university lecturer. i you are a university lecturer. presumably some of the female students particularly will never have known a taliban regime? they will have been born after they were last in power. what are your hopes maybe? i was going to save fears, but maybe we should say hopes, for weather students, female students particularly, will be able to carry on studying?— particularly, will be able to carry on studying? currently there is a difference what _ on studying? currently there is a difference what the _ on studying? currently there is a difference what the taliban - on studying? currently there is a difference what the taliban is - difference what the taliban is saying — difference what the taliban is saying and _ difference what the taliban is saying and what _ difference what the taliban is saying and what is _ difference what the taliban is saying and what is happeningi difference what the taliban is i saying and what is happening on difference what the taliban is - saying and what is happening on the ground~ _ saying and what is happening on the ground~ girls— saying and what is happening on the ground. girls were _ saying and what is happening on the ground. girls were turned _ saying and what is happening on the ground. girls were turned back- saying and what is happening on the ground. girls were turned back from the gates— ground. girls were turned back from the gates of— ground. girls were turned back from the gates of the _ ground. girls were turned back from the gates of the university - ground. girls were turned back from the gates of the university and - ground. girls were turned back from the gates of the university and not i the gates of the university and not allowed _ the gates of the university and not allowed access. _
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the gates of the university and not allowed access. obviously - the gates of the university and not allowed access. obviously there i the gates of the university and not i allowed access. obviously there were incidehts_ allowed access. obviously there were incidents inside _ allowed access. obviously there were incidents inside kabul— allowed access. obviously there were incidents inside kabul as _ allowed access. obviously there were incidents inside kabul as well- allowed access. obviously there were incidents inside kabul as well were i incidents inside kabul as well were apparently— incidents inside kabul as well were apparently moved _ incidents inside kabul as well were apparently moved into _ incidents inside kabul as well were apparently moved into people's. apparently moved into people's houses, — apparently moved into people's houses, looted _ apparently moved into people's houses, looted cars. _ apparently moved into people's houses, looted cars. i- apparently moved into people's houses, looted cars. ithink- apparently moved into people'si houses, looted cars. i think that was mostly— houses, looted cars. i think that was mostly the _ houses, looted cars. i think that was mostly the first _ houses, looted cars. i think that was mostly the first night - houses, looted cars. i think that was mostly the first night wheni houses, looted cars. i think that i was mostly the first night when the taliban_ was mostly the first night when the tatibah hadn't— was mostly the first night when the taliban hadn't officially— was mostly the first night when the taliban hadn't officially moved - was mostly the first night when the taliban hadn't officially moved into| taliban hadn't officially moved into the city _ taliban hadn't officially moved into the city the — taliban hadn't officially moved into the city. the security— taliban hadn't officially moved into the city. the security situation - taliban hadn't officially moved into the city. the security situation has| the city. the security situation has been _ the city. the security situation has been much — the city. the security situation has been much better— the city. the security situation has been much better since _ the city. the security situation has been much better since the - the city. the security situation has| been much better since the taliban are within — been much better since the taliban are within the — been much better since the taliban are within the city. _ been much better since the taliban are within the city. but _ been much better since the taliban are within the city. but at - been much better since the taliban are within the city. but at a - been much better since the taliban are within the city. but at a time i are within the city. but at a time when _ are within the city. but at a time when we — are within the city. but at a time when we were _ are within the city. but at a time when we were running _ are within the city. but at a time when we were running around, i when we were running around, everyone — when we were running around, everyone was _ when we were running around, everyone was trying _ when we were running around, everyone was trying to - when we were running around, | everyone was trying to resettle their— everyone was trying to resettle theirfamilies, _ everyone was trying to resettle theirfamilies, my— everyone was trying to resettle their families, my students - everyone was trying to resettle i their families, my students were freaking — their families, my students were freaking out, _ their families, my students were freaking out, to _ their families, my students were freaking out, to be _ their families, my students were freaking out, to be honest. - their families, my students were freaking out, to be honest. andl freaking out, to be honest. and rightly— freaking out, to be honest. and rightly so, _ freaking out, to be honest. and rightly so, because _ freaking out, to be honest. and rightly so, because everything i freaking out, to be honest. andi rightly so, because everything is freaking out, to be honest. and - rightly so, because everything is so vague _ rightly so, because everything is so vague everything— rightly so, because everything is so vague. everything is— rightly so, because everything is so vague. everything is so— rightly so, because everything is so vague. everything is so in- rightly so, because everything is so vague. everything is so in the - rightly so, because everything is so vague. everything is so in the air. l vague. everything is so in the air. and some — vague. everything is so in the air. and some of— vague. everything is so in the air. and some of my— vague. everything is so in the air. and some of my students - vague. everything is so in the air. and some of my students at - vague. everything is so in the air. and some of my students at the i and some of my students at the postgraduate _ and some of my students at the postgraduate level _ and some of my students at the postgraduate level thought - and some of my students at the postgraduate level thought they would _ postgraduate level thought they woutd never— postgraduate level thought they would never complete _ postgraduate level thought they would never complete their- postgraduate level thought they - would never complete their masters degrees _ would never complete their masters degrees now — would never complete their masters degrees now my— would never complete their masters degrees now. my students - would never complete their masters degrees now. my students at - would never complete their masters degrees now. my students at the i degrees now. my students at the american — degrees now. my students at the american university— degrees now. my students at the american university were - degrees now. my students at the | american university were worried degrees now. my students at the - american university were worried for their security — american university were worried for their security as _ american university were worried for their security as well. _ american university were worried for their security as well. we've - american university were worried for their security as well. we've just - their security as well. we've just stopped — their security as well. we've just stopped. we _ their security as well. we've just stopped. we are _ their security as well. we've just stopped. we are not _ their security as well. we've just stopped. we are not teaching. . their security as well. we've just - stopped. we are not teaching. these systems— stopped. we are not teaching. these systems are — stopped. we are not teaching. these systems are down. _ stopped. we are not teaching. these systems are down. we _ stopped. we are not teaching. these systems are down. we will— stopped. we are not teaching. these systems are down. we will have - stopped. we are not teaching. these systems are down. we will have to l systems are down. we will have to see what _ systems are down. we will have to see what happens _ systems are down. we will have to see what happens moving - systems are down. we will have to|
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see what happens moving forward, systems are down. we will have to - see what happens moving forward, for us to know— see what happens moving forward, for us to know what — see what happens moving forward, for us to know what to _ see what happens moving forward, for us to know what to do. _ see what happens moving forward, for us to know what to do. but _ see what happens moving forward, for us to know what to do. but i _ see what happens moving forward, for us to know what to do. but ijust - us to know what to do. but ijust hope. _ us to know what to do. but ijust hope. iike. — us to know what to do. but ijust hope. like. we _ us to know what to do. but ijust hope, like, we are _ us to know what to do. but ijust hope, like, we are willing - us to know what to do. but ijust hope, like, we are willing to- hope, like, we are willing to compromise _ hope, like, we are willing to compromise. we _ hope, like, we are willing to compromise. we could - hope, like, we are willing to compromise. we could have hope, like, we are willing to— compromise. we could have segregated campuses _ compromise. we could have segregated campuses we _ compromise. we could have segregated campuses we can— compromise. we could have segregated campuses. we can work— compromise. we could have segregated campuses. we can work with _ compromise. we could have segregated campuses. we can work with dress - campuses. we can work with dress codes, _ campuses. we can work with dress codes, at _ campuses. we can work with dress codes, at least _ campuses. we can work with dress codes, at least for _ campuses. we can work with dress codes, at least for now, _ campuses. we can work with dress codes, at least for now, at - campuses. we can work with dress codes, at least for now, at least i campuses. we can work with dress codes, at least for now, at least to appease _ codes, at least for now, at least to appease them _ codes, at least for now, at least to appease them to _ codes, at least for now, at least to appease them to some _ codes, at least for now, at least to appease them to some extent. - codes, at least for now, at least toj appease them to some extent. but more _ appease them to some extent. but more than _ appease them to some extent. but more than hatt— appease them to some extent. but more than half of _ appease them to some extent. but more than half of afghanistan - more than half of afghanistan societv, — more than half of afghanistan society, and _ more than half of afghanistan society, and remember- more than half of afghanistan - society, and remember afghanistan has been _ society, and remember afghanistan has been at — society, and remember afghanistan has been at work _ society, and remember afghanistan has been at work for _ society, and remember afghanistan has been at work for a _ society, and remember afghanistan has been at work for a very- society, and remember afghanistan has been at work for a very long - has been at work for a very long time, _ has been at work for a very long time, so — has been at work for a very long time, so our— has been at work for a very long time, so our female _ has been at work for a very long time, so our female populationl has been at work for a very long i time, so our female population is much _ time, so our female population is much larger— time, so our female population is much larger -- _ time, so our female population is much larger —— larger. _ time, so our female population is much larger —— larger. it- time, so our female population is much larger —— larger. it is- time, so our female population is much larger —— larger. it is time i time, so our female population is l much larger —— larger. it is time we made _ much larger —— larger. it is time we made them — much larger —— larger. it is time we made them relevant _ much larger —— larger. it is time we made them relevant stakeholders l much larger —— larger. it is time we| made them relevant stakeholders in this new— made them relevant stakeholders in this new process— made them relevant stakeholders in this new process of— made them relevant stakeholders in this new process of changing - made them relevant stakeholders in this new process of changing the - this new process of changing the society, — this new process of changing the society, because _ this new process of changing the society, because if— this new process of changing the society, because if they- this new process of changing the society, because if they are - this new process of changing the l society, because if they are locked out now. _ society, because if they are locked out now. the — society, because if they are locked out now, the post—conflict- society, because if they are locked| out now, the post—conflict violence is multiple — out now, the post—conflict violence is multiple times— out now, the post—conflict violence is multiple times worse _ out now, the post—conflict violence is multiple times worse than - out now, the post—conflict violence is multiple times worse than the i is multiple times worse than the conflict — is multiple times worse than the conflict of— is multiple times worse than the conflict of violence _ is multiple times worse than the conflict of violence for _ is multiple times worse than the conflict of violence for women. i conflict of violence for women. pubtic— conflict of violence for women. pubiic sphere _ conflict of violence for women. public sphere violence - conflict of violence for women. public sphere violence turns i conflict of violence for women. i public sphere violence turns into private _ public sphere violence turns into private spheres _ public sphere violence turns into private spheres. all— public sphere violence turns into private spheres. all these - public sphere violence turns into| private spheres. all these taliban fighters, — private spheres. all these taliban fighters, these _ private spheres. all these taliban fighters, these armed _ private spheres. all these taliban fighters, these armed forces - fighters, these armed forces fighters, _ fighters, these armed forces fighters, will— fighters, these armed forces fighters, will be _ fighters, these armed forces fighters, will be coming - fighters, these armed forces| fighters, will be coming home fighters, these armed forces - fighters, will be coming home and the gender— fighters, will be coming home and the gender balance _ fighters, will be coming home and the gender balance of— fighters, will be coming home and the gender balance of the - fighters, will be coming home and the gender balance of the societyl fighters, will be coming home and. the gender balance of the society is going _ the gender balance of the society is going to _ the gender balance of the society is going to be — the gender balance of the society is going to be realty— the gender balance of the society is going to be really tilted. _ the gender balance of the society is going to be really tilted. this- the gender balance of the society is going to be really tilted. this is- going to be really tilted. this is the time — going to be really tilted. this is the time to— going to be really tilted. this is the time to sit— going to be really tilted. this is the time to sit down _ going to be really tilted. this is the time to sit down and - going to be really tilted. this is the time to sit down and talk. going to be really tilted. this is- the time to sit down and talk about afghanistan's — the time to sit down and talk about
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afghanistan's future. _ the time to sit down and talk about afghanistan's future. [— the time to sit down and talk about afghanistan's future.— afghanistan's future. i 'ust want to ick u- afghanistan's future. i 'ust want to pick up some t afghanistan's future. i 'ust want to pick up some «h afghanistan's future. i 'ust want to pick up some of your _ afghanistan's future. i just want to pick up some of your points. - afghanistan's future. i just want to pick up some of your points. you l afghanistan's future. i just want to l pick up some of your points. you are the first woman to be the speaker of parliament. you were shot yourself, an attempted assassination. how are you feeling now about your personal safety and the future? my you feeling now about your personal safety and the future?— safety and the future? my personal safety and the future? my personal safe is safety and the future? my personal safety is like _ safety and the future? my personal safety is like many _ safety and the future? my personal safety is like many other— safety and the future? my personal safety is like many other afghans l safety is like many other afghans who live — safety is like many other afghans who tive in — safety is like many other afghans who live in this country, which doesn't — who live in this country, which doesn't have a government basically. anyone _ doesn't have a government basically. anyone could use this chaotic situation _ anyone could use this chaotic situation to terrorise the society. and we _ situation to terrorise the society. and we know that in the past two years. _ and we know that in the past two years. at— and we know that in the past two years, at least one and a half years since _ years, at least one and a half years since the _ years, at least one and a half years since the peace talks started, which i since the peace talks started, which iwas _ since the peace talks started, which iwas part— since the peace talks started, which i was part of, we were hoping to agree _ i was part of, we were hoping to agree on— i was part of, we were hoping to agree on a — i was part of, we were hoping to agree on a political settlement which — agree on a political settlement which would avoid any fear or collapse _ which would avoid any fear or collapse of our institution, that we have invested blood and treasure to keep them. since then there has been a lot keep them. since then there has been a tot of— keep them. since then there has been a lot of attacks against women's rights _ a lot of attacks against women's rights activists, journalists,
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professional women. the country actually— professional women. the country actually invested a lot of money on their skills — actually invested a lot of money on their skills. there has been no culture — their skills. there has been no culture of— their skills. there has been no culture of accountability in the work — culture of accountability in the work i— culture of accountability in the work. i keep talking to people and we try— work. i keep talking to people and we try to — work. i keep talking to people and we try to press for some of these values, _ we try to press for some of these values, because afghan should not be kept in _ values, because afghan should not be kept in generalisation. if you look at the _ kept in generalisation. if you look at the same state of qatar, where the taiibah— at the same state of qatar, where the taliban have political offices, the taliban have political offices, the number of females in educational institutions— the number of females in educational institutions are more than the men. in institutions are more than the men. in the _ institutions are more than the men. in the past— institutions are more than the men. in the past 20 years, probably there has been _ in the past 20 years, probably there has been a — in the past 20 years, probably there has been a lot of tall buildings and infrastructure that was built, and people _ infrastructure that was built, and people report about it. at one thing which _ people report about it. at one thing which is _ people report about it. at one thing which is not — people report about it. at one thing which is not visible is that of transformational, generation transformation. even today, women were calling me and asking me for a
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meeting _ were calling me and asking me for a meeting to — were calling me and asking me for a meeting to see what they can do. that is— meeting to see what they can do. that is a — meeting to see what they can do. that is a generation that has transformed. and i don't think anybody— transformed. and i don't think anybody could press this generation. i anybody could press this generation. i don't _ anybody could press this generation. idon't think— anybody could press this generation. i don't think anybody could make them _ idon't think anybody could make them to— i don't think anybody could make them to stay home and look at the world _ them to stay home and look at the world with — them to stay home and look at the world with its opportunities and beauty— world with its opportunities and beauty through the small window of their hopes. they have the equipment and means— their hopes. they have the equipment and means to raise their voice. that is what _ and means to raise their voice. that is what i _ and means to raise their voice. that is what i am — and means to raise their voice. that is what i am hoping for. my hope is that we _ is what i am hoping for. my hope is that we witt— is what i am hoping for. my hope is that we will continue to resist any possible _ that we will continue to resist any possible deprivation. and the taiihan— possible deprivation. and the taliban must also realise that they cannot— taliban must also realise that they cannot keep afghanistan to the knee. they have _ cannot keep afghanistan to the knee. they have to live with the world. in a moderate — they have to live with the world. in a moderate situation, moderate government, moderate islam, we can live with _ government, moderate islam, we can live with ourselves and the world. 0k. live with ourselves and the world. ok i_ live with ourselves and the world. ok i realty— live with ourselves and the world. ok. i really appreciate your time. thank you so much. thank you very much indeed, both of you, for your time. �* . . much indeed, both of you, for your time. 3 ,~ . much indeed, both of you, for your time. �*, , ,., ., much indeed, both of you, for your time. �*, ,., ., time. let's pick up on some of those thou~hts. murzia babakarkhail is a former judge from afghanistan who moved to the uk in 2008,
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after being targeted by the taliban. good morning to you. what are you hearing from your contacts in afghanistan about the situation today? ma; afghanistan about the situation toda ? ~ , ., afghanistan about the situation toda ? y ., ,, today? my friend, women activists, the are today? my friend, women activists, they are in — today? my friend, women activists, they are in shock— today? my friend, women activists, they are in shock and _ today? my friend, women activists, they are in shock and disappointed. they don't— they are in shock and disappointed. they don't know what they should do and what _ they don't know what they should do and what is _ they don't know what they should do and what is the future. and who can control— and what is the future. and who can control the — and what is the future. and who can control the safety for them. the immediate _ control the safety for them. tie: immediate concern is control the safety for them. tt9 immediate concern is what the taliban approach will be. they have issued statements saying that government officials, for example, have an amnesty, that they will not be targeted. do you have any faith in what they are saying?— be targeted. do you have any faith in what they are saying? because of my exnerience _ in what they are saying? because of my experience with _ in what they are saying? because of my experience with the _ in what they are saying? because of my experience with the taliban, - in what they are saying? because of my experience with the taliban, i i my experience with the taliban, i have _ my experience with the taliban, i have no— my experience with the taliban, i have no faith in the taliban,
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because _ have no faith in the taliban, because they never do what they say. for me. _ because they never do what they say. for me. a _ because they never do what they say. for me, a leopard cannot change its spots _ for me, a leopard cannot change its spots the _ for me, a leopard cannot change its spots. the taliban never change. | spots. the taliban never change. i am spots. the taliban never change. am sitting spots. the taliban never change. i am sitting here watching those pictures, those desperate pictures from the airport yesterday, people trying to flee for their lives. what do you think the kind of impact under the monetary and impact is going to be? —— where the humanitarian impact in the future is going to be?— going to be? people are struggling. if the taliban. _ going to be? people are struggling. if the taliban, they _ going to be? people are struggling. if the taliban, they think _ going to be? people are struggling. if the taliban, they think they - going to be? people are struggling. if the taliban, they think they are i if the taliban, they think they are comfortable in the country, in afghanistan, why everybody want to leave? _ afghanistan, why everybody want to leave? because people are scared of them _ leave? because people are scared of them this _ leave? because people are scared of them. this is the big example for them. this is the big example for the world — them. this is the big example for the world. people don't want them. people _ the world. people don't want them. people just— the world. people don't want them. people just left their places and all they— people just left their places and all they came to kabul now. it is
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not safe — all they came to kabul now. it is not safe for— all they came to kabul now. it is not safe for some women activists. from _ not safe for some women activists. from yesterday, they made a list. they— from yesterday, they made a list. they are _ from yesterday, they made a list. they are searching for women's rights _ they are searching for women's rights activists. women who work for the government. there are a lot of new messages on twitter last night. so the _ new messages on twitter last night. so the situation will be worse for everybody — so the situation will be worse for everybody in afghanistan. canl so the situation will be worse for everybody in afghanistan. can i ask ou, the everybody in afghanistan. can i ask you. the guest _ everybody in afghanistan. can i ask you. the guest we _ everybody in afghanistan. can i ask you, the guest we were _ everybody in afghanistan. can i ask you, the guest we were speaking . everybody in afghanistan. can i ask| you, the guest we were speaking to everybody in afghanistan. can i ask. you, the guest we were speaking to a moment ago, she said, i don't think anyone can suppress women here now because of what has changed, because of what women have been allowed to do in the last 20 years. do you think there is some truth in that? it is true, because there is a movement. i agree with her. if we stand _ movement. i agree with her. if we stand for— movement. i agree with her. if we stand for some things, still we need security— stand for some things, still we need security and safety. i'm thinking
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about _ security and safety. i'm thinking about women, they have their voice. who can _ about women, they have their voice. who can control the taliban do not disturb— who can control the taliban do not disturb them? can who can control the taliban do not disturb them?— who can control the taliban do not disturb them? . . , :, . , ., disturb them? can i ask you what you exect disturb them? can i ask you what you exoect from — disturb them? can i ask you what you exoect from the _ disturb them? can i ask you what you expect from the international - expect from the international community? in a moment we are speaking to the british foreign secretary. there is talk of helping more refugees from afghanistan. what is it you would like to see? the united nations _ is it you would like to see? the united nations and the uk government to be involved in the situation. because — to be involved in the situation. because the taliban agenda is not very clear — because the taliban agenda is not very clear. i don't know what is the main _ very clear. i don't know what is the main agenda — very clear. i don't know what is the main agenda of the taliban. about women, _ main agenda of the taliban. about women, about the people that work with the _ women, about the people that work with the government. i urge the united _ with the government. i urge the united nations to be involved, because — united nations to be involved, because without the involvement of the united nations and the uk
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garment, the situation will be very worse _ garment, the situation will be very worse for— garment, the situation will be very worse for my country.— garment, the situation will be very worse for my country. thank you very much. worse for my country. thank you very much- good — worse for my country. thank you very much- good to _ worse for my country. thank you very much. good to see. _ worse for my country. thank you very much. good to see. thank _ worse for my country. thank you very much. good to see. thank you. - you're watching bbc breakfast. still to come... the actor lesley manville will be joining us for a chat about her latest channel 4 drama, i am maria, and playing princess margaret in the forthcoming series of the crown. we'll have that shortly, and bring you the latest news and weather. let's have a look at the weather now. good morning, everyone. a fairly cloudy day we have ahead notjust a day bed in the next couple of days, notjust day bed in the next couple of days, not just as is day bed in the next couple of days, notjust as is there a lot of cloud this morning, but there is also some mist and murk, particularly around the coast and the hills, and some
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fog patches in the trans— pennine routes. the cloud is thick enough to produce some light rain and drizzle, temperatures below par for this stage in august. some rain courtesy of a weather front which has been coming southwards through the night, it is fairly weak and the rain is light but you will notice it until it clears up into the near continent. high pressure is in the atlantic and low pressure in scandinavia, in between we have a north—westerly flow, so today is breezy with a lot of cloud. we say goodbye to the rain in the south—east where it will brighten up, we could see brightness in dorset, the west country and south—east wales, north—east england, north—east scotland and shetland, but for the rest of scotland, northern ireland and northern england, it will be cloudy and damp. same for wales, midlands into east anglia, cloudy and damp,
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and cloudy also across the channel islands where it is going to be breezy. temperatures, ia to 19, maybe 20. through the evening we hang onto a lot of cloud, once again thick enough to produce patchy light rain and drizzle, and more rain coming in across northern isles. more especially shetland. with all of this going on, it will not be cold, 11 to 16 degrees. into tomorrow, a fair bit of cloud around, rather like today there are some breaks to the east of the shelter of the mountains, eastern scotland and north—east england, east of wales down towards dorset, and the breeze will not be as brisk as it has been today. in the sunshine it will not feel too bad. temperatures are still below average for the time of year, it should be 20 to 2a. thursday, with start on a bright note in the south—east, but
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we have a weather front coming in from the south—west bringing in some rain, not particularly heavy, and it will fragment as it continues to move eastwards. the northern edge of thatis move eastwards. the northern edge of that is still in doubt but we think it will be here, here we are back into some cloud, light rain and drizzle. on friday, a drier day for the majority of the country, again some sunshine but some rain heading in the direction of northern ireland as we head through the day. more weather later. hello, this is breakfast with louise minchin and charlie stayt. let's return to our main story, the ongoing crisis in afghanistan, and the uk government is expected to announce more details of a new scheme to help refugees fleeing the taliban. the foreign secretary, dominic raab, joins us now.
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good dominic raab, joins us now. morning. we will com refugees good morning. we will come onto the refugees in a moment. can you bring us right up to date with what the situation is in kabul today, specifically to do with the airport? i got a set rate at 6am, the situation has calmed, there has been an increase in uk and us forces, including cloud control because what we have seen is a surge of ordinary afghans heading for the exit given italo bank takeover. it's —— given the taliban takeover. we need the airport to be working for those who wish to leave, the british afghans who need to leave and also those who have served us so well like translators. the situation is coming so we can ramp up the number of flights coming out. we expect 350
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british nationals and those afghan workers to be able to leave in the next 2a hours, if and as the situation stabilises, those numbers i expect will increase quite significantly.— i expect will increase quite sianificantl. . :, significantly. can i ask for your thou~hts significantly. can i ask for your thoughts on — significantly. can i ask for your thoughts on those _ significantly. can i ask for your thoughts on those images - significantly. can i ask for your thoughts on those images we | significantly. can i ask for your i thoughts on those images we saw yesterday, as a us plane was on the tarmac, moving around, and those crowds around it, and those scenes which you probably would concede will become one of the most defining moments of this moment of withdrawal, those afghans clinging to the side of a plane, such as their desperation to leave the country? their desperation to leave the count ? . , :, :, :, country? our hearts go out to the afu han country? our hearts go out to the afghan people — country? our hearts go out to the afghan people who _ country? our hearts go out to the afghan people who now _ country? our hearts go out to the afghan people who now face - country? our hearts go out to the j afghan people who now face what feels like a pretty wholesale taliban takeover. that's why we have been there. notjust to protect the united kingdom, and our allies from security which we have done, no
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terrorist attack from afghanistan in the last 20 years, but to try and improve the lives of ordinary afghans. we have seen significant improvements, notwithstanding the situation on the ground now. 8 million landmines have been cleared, 10 million children getting into school who never would have done before. mortality rate in childbirth and pregnancy improved by nearly half. that's one of the reasons we were there as well as protecting the united kingdom. so those scenes are distressing but we have to make sure the airport is to stabilise and secure, precisely so at least in the short term we get our nationals out and we secure safe passage for those who have served us so loyally in the next 20 years —— her last 20 years. there will be refugees trying to get out of the country by any means, the canadian government has committed to taking 20,000 refugees, what is the uk government situation? irate taking 20,000 refugees, what is the uk government situation?— uk government situation? we are
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lookin: at uk government situation? we are looking at this _ uk government situation? we are looking at this closely, _ uk government situation? we are looking at this closely, i _ uk government situation? we are looking at this closely, i spoke - uk government situation? we are looking at this closely, i spoke to | looking at this closely, i spoke to the home secretary and premature about this yesterday, we will be looking at a bespoke arrangement, we are a bighearted nation and we know that we have provided safe haven for those fleeing persecution. i'm sure the home secretary and the prime minister will set out the details in due course. flan minister will set out the details in due course-— minister will set out the details in due course. can you give us some idea, is due course. can you give us some idea. is this _ due course. can you give us some idea, is this an _ due course. can you give us some idea, is this an open-ended - due course. can you give us some l idea, is this an open-ended number idea, is this an open—ended number effectively? they could be tens or hundreds of thousands of people seeking refuge, and they may well be wanting to come to the uk. basically open—ended, depending upon the people who are applying to come to the uk? ., people who are applying to come to the uk? :, :, ., people who are applying to come to the uk? ., ., ., ., _ the uk? there are the normal asylum rules which apply. — the uk? there are the normal asylum rules which apply, the _ the uk? there are the normal asylum rules which apply, the question - the uk? there are the normal asylum rules which apply, the question is - rules which apply, the question is whether we do something bespoke around the current situation. let's look at this properly and come up with it properly in the right way,
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we know that the stage where we can give details but i'm sure they will come shortly. —— we are not at the stage where we can give details. l stage where we can give details. i understood there was going to be a bespoke arrangement for afghanistan, is that incorrect? taste bespoke arrangement for afghanistan, is that incorrect?— is that incorrect? we have done them in the past. — is that incorrect? we have done them in the past. you _ is that incorrect? we have done them in the past. you can _ is that incorrect? we have done them in the past, you can think— is that incorrect? we have done them in the past, you can think of- is that incorrect? we have done them in the past, you can think of syria - in the past, you can think of syria for example, and i think it is right to consider it for afghanistan. but let us come forward with the full details rather than drip feed outfit to this without it being properly —— drip feed out bits of this without being properly scrutinised so we can get the right balance. i being properly scrutinised so we can get the right balance.— get the right balance. i appreciate our oint get the right balance. i appreciate your point but _ get the right balance. i appreciate your point but i'm _ get the right balance. i appreciate your point but i'm sure _ get the right balance. i appreciate your point but i'm sure you - get the right balance. i appreciate your point but i'm sure you will i your point but i'm sure you will have seen and heard these individuals on this programme and elsewhere, afghans are saying what they very much need now in such an insecure moment is the security of knowing that places around the international community will be stepping up to the plate? they see that as a responsibility. and that's why some statement about the intent becomes more important that it might
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otherwise be. becomes more important that it might otherwise be— otherwise be. sure, and we will set it out in due _ otherwise be. sure, and we will set it out in due course. _ otherwise be. sure, and we will set it out in due course. i _ otherwise be. sure, and we will set it out in due course. i don't - otherwise be. sure, and we will set it out in due course. i don't agree l it out in due course. i don't agree with the underlying premise of your question, the most important thing we can do at source in the countries, whether afghanistan or elsewhere, is try and provide stability so we don't see large numbers of migrant flows. that ought to be the number one priority but asylum is really important. we have had one of the proudest histories of offering safe haven for those fleeing persecution, we have a foreign secretary and home secretary who know this to our own family history, and as we have shown in syria and generally, if you look at the numbers, over recent history, we have always stepped up to the plate and i'm confident we will do so again. if and i'm confident we will do so aaain. and i'm confident we will do so a.ain_ ., and i'm confident we will do so aiain_ ., :, again. if the taliban returned to the practices — again. if the taliban returned to the practices of _ again. if the taliban returned to the practices of old, _ again. if the taliban returned to the practices of old, and - again. if the taliban returned to the practices of old, and it - again. if the taliban returned to i the practices of old, and it remains very much a question for now, what
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can the uk government do? first of all, let's can the uk government do? first of all. let's not — can the uk government do? first of all, let's not be _ can the uk government do? first of all, let's not be pen _ can the uk government do? first of all, let's not be pen glossy - can the uk government do? first of all, let's not be pen glossy and - can the uk government do? first of all, let's not be pen glossy and or i all, let's not be pen glossy and or unrealistic about it, there is political track through doha where they are talking about the prospect of a transitional government which will include the previous leaders as well as the taliban. we need to test that i give it full support. at the same time, uk and the group of partners, we need to broaden that group of partners, need to a be clear, to use every tool, whether that's sanctions, the way we reconfigure aid, all the diplomatic tools we have at our disposal to be clear that afghanistan is never be used to strike terror attacks on either the neighbours or other western allies. they must try and
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promote a more inclusive form of government otherwise we willjust see a reversion to the past practices which he rightly described. and we need to stabilise the gains we have made. the maternal mortality rate is down by close to half, we have swept io mortality rate is down by close to half, we have swept 10 million landmines with our allies, 8 million, forgive me, 10 million children in school, for million of those were girls who have never seen school before. we will try to give a positive and a moderating influence over what comes next. then positive and a moderating influence over what comes next.— over what comes next. then the international _ over what comes next. then the international community - over what comes next. then the international community left - over what comes next. then the international community left in l over what comes next. then the i international community left in an unseemly rush. the international community left in an unseemly rush.— international community left in an unseemly rush. the situation on the round is unseemly rush. the situation on the ground is something _ unseemly rush. the situation on the ground is something that _ unseemly rush. the situation on the ground is something that needs - unseemly rush. the situation on the ground is something that needs to l unseemly rush. the situation on the l ground is something that needs to be stabilised. i mentioned the evacuation and the priority re—attached to getting our nationals and those who have served our country so loyally out. we have seen
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150 brits and dual nationals return on sunday, we saw last week 350 afghans who served the uk return, i think 3300 overall. we have done more than any other country to get those afghans who served the uk out, certainly proportionately... so those afghans who served the uk out, certainly proportionately. . .— certainly proportionately... so why did thins certainly proportionately... so why did things unravel _ certainly proportionately... so why did things unravel so _ certainly proportionately... so why did things unravel so quickly - certainly proportionately... so why did things unravel so quickly in - certainly proportionately... so why did things unravel so quickly in the way things did? i know you were on holiday at the time. some of these are just timing issues, holiday at the time. some of these arejust timing issues, but i know that president biden as well was away when this happened. it seemed the intelligence you are receiving is completely out of touch with what was going on on the ground. the situation in _ was going on on the ground. ti9 situation in afghanistan is incredibly fluid, we have not been monitoring this for the last week, but since... monitoring this for the last week, but since- - -_ but since... the monitoring went wroni. it but since... the monitoring went wrong- it is _ but since... the monitoring went wrong. it is true _ but since... the monitoring went wrong. it is true to _ but since... the monitoring went wrong. it is true to say _ but since... the monitoring went wrong. it is true to say that - but since... the monitoring went wrong. it is true to say that you | wrong. it is true to say that you did not know it would unfold this quickly. you may be monitoring it
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but it went wrong. flan quickly. you may be monitoring it but it went wrong.— quickly. you may be monitoring it but it went wrong. can i explain the background? _ but it went wrong. can i explain the background? since _ but it went wrong. can i explain the background? since 2020 _ but it went wrong. can i explain the background? since 2020 and - but it went wrong. can i explain the background? since 2020 and the i but it went wrong. can i explain the i background? since 2020 and the doha agreement between the us and the taliban, and the projected us withdrawal which was in may and then extended to september, we have been looking at this carefully. i think you are right that we didn't anticipate the scale or the rapidity of the deterioration of the situation, we thought it would happen more towards the autumn and much more gradually, and of course there was still a question as to whether the civilian government that we saw in place before, the afghan government, and tell a man would come to some sort of arrangement. you are —— and the taliban would come to an arrangement. you are right, no one saw this coming. it is not to the uk question, it is across all of our allies and i have been speaking to the allies in the region, the qataris and pakistanis, no one saw this coming with this rapidity. no one saw this coming with this ra-idi . :. no one saw this coming with this raiidi . :. :. no one saw this coming with this raiidi . . . i. .
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rapidity. can i ask you about the comments _ rapidity. can i ask you about the comments from _ rapidity. can i ask you about the comments from president - rapidity. can i ask you about the comments from president biden rapidity. can i ask you about the - comments from president biden last night? he very, very squarely laid the blame at the afghan government. is that something, are you entirely on message in relation to that? taste on message in relation to that? we have on message in relation to that? 9 have been working really hard for 20 years and obviously even more since the withdrawal of combat, military operations, and i think 201a, to boost and beef up the ability of the afghan security forces and its wider institutions to be able to govern. that clearly hasn't worked, they have not been able to take that on. but i think it brings into question much bigger questions about whether you can nation build in such inhospitable climates, both politically and both the security climate. that is a much bigger strategic question and we need to be clear about that. at the same time, i want to be clear to all those
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service personnel who lost lives, limbs, sacrifices, saw theirfriends die, that their suffering and loss was not in vain. we haven't seen act security or terrorist attack on the uk or our allies from afghanistan in 20 years, we have swept 8 million mines, we have got the mortality rate for women in childbirth and pregnancy down by almost half, we have got 10 million more kids into school, kids who would never have seen a school book. the challenge is how you consolidate that within the wake of a taliban takeover. find how you consolidate that within the wake of a taliban takeover. and the challen i e wake of a taliban takeover. and the challenge of— wake of a taliban takeover. and the challenge of course _ wake of a taliban takeover. and the challenge of course is _ wake of a taliban takeover. and the challenge of course is how - wake of a taliban takeover. and the challenge of course is how you - challenge of course is how you consolidate that when you have no control whatsoever about what happens next. the things you talk about, and we have spoken to people involved in education in afghanistan today, if you take that as an example, it's touted as a success story and there is a generation of young people, women in particular who have had education in afghanistan. that may disappear under the taliban. and you have no control over that. it’s
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under the taliban. and you have no control over that.— control over that. it's not correct to say we — control over that. it's not correct to say we have — control over that. it's not correct to say we have no _ control over that. it's not correct to say we have no control- control over that. it's not correct to say we have no control but. to say we have no control but clearly the levers that come with a military presence on the ground have gone so we need to use all the others. there is a political process, are not going to tell you that i am exuberantly optimistic about it but we now need to test the taliban and the commitments that they made not to allow afghans to be used as a safe haven for terror, to have a more inclusive approach. let's test that, they haven't kept their word so far but if they are saying this, we need to engage. we will have a much more clear contact group... will have a much more clear contact rioui... will have a much more clear contact iroui,,. ., ,:, will have a much more clear contact rioui... :. ,, :, will have a much more clear contact rioui... :, :, group... may ask you one more question? — group... may ask you one more question? can _ group... may ask you one more question? can i _ group... may ask you one more question? can i give _ group... may ask you one more question? can i give you - group... may ask you one more question? can i give you the i group... may ask you one more i question? can i give you the path forward, question? can i give you the path forward. it _ question? can i give you the path forward. it is— question? can i give you the path forward, it is important _ question? can i give you the path forward, it is important to - question? can i give you the path forward, it is important to work l forward, it is important to work with partners in the region, china, pakistan, we will use our permanent membership of the security council and our g7 presidents. we will have the levers and we will use all of them with our partners to exercise
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as much influence as we can with the new regime. flan as much influence as we can with the new regime-— new regime. can you see yourself sittini new regime. can you see yourself sitting down _ new regime. can you see yourself sitting down talking _ new regime. can you see yourself sitting down talking to _ new regime. can you see yourself sitting down talking to your - sitting down talking to your counterpart from a taliban government?— counterpart from a taliban government? counterpart from a taliban iovernment? :, :, , government? not from the sieve -- not in the foreseeable _ government? not from the sieve -- not in the foreseeable future - government? not from the sieve -- not in the foreseeable future but. government? not from the sieve -- j not in the foreseeable future but we have also always had dialogue through third parties or the taliban's political commission in tohow, and it is important to be able to test and exert as much influence as we can credibly. and also to try and hold the taliban to the commitments they have made. they say they are not going to be the same as the previous approach that we saw in recent history. we have got to try and use every lever, working with our partners and the un, and nato, to try and secure a more moderating influence and a better course for the afghans, and the afghan people in the months and years ahead. the afghan people in the months and years ahead-— the afghan people in the months and ears ahead. . ,, i. , . :, years ahead. thank you very much for our time years ahead. thank you very much for your time this — years ahead. thank you very much for your time this morning, _ years ahead. thank you very much for your time this morning, foreign - your time this morning, foreign secretary. you are watching bbc breakfast.
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let's talk about something which is very difficult to watch in a way. we have talked about naomi sarker and her state —— we have talked about naomi sarker and herstate —— —— naomi we have talked about naomi sarker and her state —— —— naomi osaka and her mental health. this is a struggle to watch. naomi osaka struggled through her first news conference since the controversy over refusing to speak to media at the french open. osaka became emotional shortly after being asked about "dealing with press conferences", the four time grand slam winner is preparing to play in cincinnati this week. when you say, i'm not crazy about dealing with you guys, what does that refer to? you have said you don't especially like the press conference format. that seems to be obviously the most widely used means of communicating to the media and through the media to the public. that's interesting. i would say the occasion, like, when to do the press
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conference is what i feel is the most difficult. ok, i think we're just going to take a quick break, we will be back in one moment. andy murray beat richard gasquet at the cincinatti open. murray, who has won the tournament twice, eased into the second round with a 6—a, 6—a victory over gasquet. britain's dan evans is out though, beaten by diego schwartzman. india won the second test against england after a dramatic final day at lord's. england were favourites at the start of the day. quick wickets would have seen them chasing less than 200 but instead jasprit bumrah helped his side to a lead of 271 before they declared. and england's batting got off to a terrible start when both openers were removed for ducks. they steadily lost wickets and with less than 50 balls left
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to survive were all out for 120. well done india, incredible to watch yesterday. that's it from me. if you like to hear stories about people standing up to bullies, then chloe ashford—smith is a great example. she was picked on at school because of her alopecia, which causes hair loss. to boost her confidence, chloe started entering beauty pageants. she's now miss lincolnshire and is hoping to become miss great britain next month. chloe joins us now. love to see you, thank you for joining us. tell us a little bit about the alopecia, it affected even when you are really little? i about the alopecia, it affected even when you are really little?- when you are really little? i have basically had _ when you are really little? i have basically had it _ when you are really little? i have basically had it since _ when you are really little? i have basically had it since i _ when you are really little? i have basically had it since i was - when you are really little? i have basically had it since i was born. | when you are really little? i have| basically had it since i was born. i have gone for hospital treatment all through my childhood and teenage years, i've had it since i was born, i still have it, there is no care, it's not going to go away so ijust had to learn to live with it. it is had to learn to live with it. it is a brave thing — had to learn to live with it. it is a brave thing you _ had to learn to live with it. it is
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a brave thing you are _ had to learn to live with it. it is a brave thing you are doing now, you are taking a big breath, i can see, because you are sitting here and saying very proudly, this is what i am. i dare say there have been some difficult times along the way. ianthem difficult times along the way. when i was difficult times along the way. when i was younger. _ difficult times along the way. when i was younger. i — difficult times along the way. when i was younger, i didn't _ difficult times along the way. when i was younger, i didn't take - difficult times along the way. trag9'i i was younger, i didn't take that stance, i was very shy, i was bullied, very quiet, it really affected my confidence. that's a lovely picture. — affected my confidence. that's a lovely picture, great _ affected my confidence. that's a lovely picture, great smile - affected my confidence. that's a lovely picture, great smile no i lovely picture, great smile no matter what. lovely picture, great smile no matterwhat. but lovely picture, great smile no matter what. but behind—the—scenes, you are getting a lot of grief from other kids? i you are getting a lot of grief from other kids?— other kids? i got called egghead, hum- other kids? i got called egghead, humpty dumpty. _ other kids? i got called egghead, humpty dumpty, aldi, _ other kids? i got called egghead, humpty dumpty, aldi, got - other kids? i got called egghead, humpty dumpty, aldi, got told i | other kids? i got called egghead, i humpty dumpty, aldi, got told i got ——, | humpty dumpty, aldi, got told i got ——, i looked like a boy. everyone asks me how i coped, but it was all i was used to so ijust got on with it. that's what i was used to, i didn't have any coping strategies, i had friends and family but ijust carried on. 50 had friends and family but i 'ust carried _ had friends and family but i 'ust carried on. . . . , :, carried on. so you have already won one beauty — carried on. so you have already won one beauty pageant, _ carried on. so you have already won one beauty pageant, how _ carried on. so you have already won
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one beauty pageant, how importantj carried on. so you have already won l one beauty pageant, how important is it that you do this for other people who have got different types of alopecia? how important is it to do that for them? i alopecia? how important is it to do that for them?— that for them? i really want people to see that it _ that for them? i really want people to see that it doesn't _ that for them? i really want people to see that it doesn't matter- that for them? i really want people to see that it doesn't matter what i to see that it doesn't matter what you look like on the outside, beauty pageants are notjust about how you look at all, they are about who you are, the fundraising, who you are as are, the fundraising, who you are as a person and how you treat people, it's all about the inside. haste it's all about the inside. have other people _ it's all about the inside. have other people been _ it's all about the inside. have other people been encouraging? it's all about the inside. have - other people been encouraging? yes, eve one is other people been encouraging? yes, everyone is very _ other people been encouraging? 193 everyone is very encouraging. people i don't know, customers at work, my friends and family,. 50 i don't know, customers at work, my friends and family,.— friends and family,. so when is the next competition? _ friends and family,. so when is the next competition? the _ friends and family,. so when is the next competition? the miss - friends and family,. so when is the next competition? the miss greatl next competition? the miss great britain final— next competition? the miss great britain final is _ next competition? the miss great britain final is the _ next competition? the miss great britain final is the 16th _ next competition? the miss great britain final is the 16th and - next competition? the miss great britain final is the 16th and 17th i britain final is the 16th and 17th of september in a letter, so a month today. of september in a letter, so a month toda . ~ a . of september in a letter, so a month toda . ~ . . ,, today. well, good luck, and thank ou for today. well, good luck, and thank you for coming — today. well, good luck, and thank you for coming in _ today. well, good luck, and thank you for coming in and _ today. well, good luck, and thank you for coming in and chatting - today. well, good luck, and thank you for coming in and chatting us| you for coming in and chatting us through the situation! == you for coming in and chatting us through the situation!— through the situation! -- in leicester- _ through the situation! -- in leicester. thank _ through the situation! -- in leicester. thank you - through the situation! -- in leicester. thank you very i through the situation! -- in - leicester. thank you very much for havini leicester. thank you very much for having me- — thank you very much for having me. we have covered lots ofjourneys all
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the way through the programme on breakfast. this is a bit different. yes, sometimes you are driving along, cycling, you see the name of along, cycling, you see the name of a street which is maybe a little risque or cheeky. there are quite a few in the uk and paul taylor is planning to visit a6 of them on a vintage moped. let's take a look at his itinerary, or at least the few bits we can show you. some of those places, dull, pity me, we could show those, but some we could not show! you have a great fun
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choosing all of these places, why travel to places with funny names? good morning. i'm not really sure to be honest. i wanted to do a fundraiser, for the institute of cancer research, and it sort of fits with a friend of mine who passed away last year, he was into his cars and his motorbikes, and itjust... i suppose, ifelt like the and his motorbikes, and itjust... i suppose, i felt like the salubrious names added a bit of comedy to it and made it a bit more fun, really. tell us a bit more about your friend, paul.— tell us a bit more about your friend, paul. . , friend, paul. yeah, so, my friend died last year— friend, paul. yeah, so, my friend died last year of _ friend, paul. yeah, so, my friend died last year of cancer _ friend, paul. yeah, so, my friend died last year of cancer in -
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friend, paul. yeah, so, my friend died last year of cancer in july, i friend, paul. yeah, so, my friendj died last year of cancer in july, at died last year of cancer injuly, at 55, and he was very well known, very well respected, a much loved classic car restorer and a really nice guy. and lots and lots of friends and one of the few sort of very kind and genuine warm—hearted people in this world. it started off as a bit of a tribute to him, and it sort of grew and i got more and more silly destinations, and the plan formed. we were just seeing a couple of pictures of you with him, and obviously sorry for your loss, but it has inspired you to go on this journey. a different kind of journey, everyone has been driving in the car or on a bike or walking and seen one of these signs, some of them are frankly too rude for us to talk about. what are some of your favourite along the more cheeky line? . _, , .
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line? there were a couple that i wanted to _ line? there were a couple that i wanted to go — line? there were a couple that i wanted to go to _ line? there were a couple that i wanted to go to that _ line? there were a couple that i wanted to go to that i _ line? there were a couple that i wanted to go to that i couldn't i wanted to go to that i couldn't because it was just getting too crazy, to many destinations. cat brain, curry mallet. i quite like pity me in durham, and by that point, ten days on a page, you probably should. and of course there is booze, which is quite a good one, brawl, and cheese burn, a very bizarre name! you wonder where they came from, and where they came from in the first place. tell us about the may bed, it's not exactly highly powered, is it? == the may bed, it's not exactly highly powered. is it?— the may bed, it's not exactly highly powered, is it? -- them ipad? -- the moieds? powered, is it? -- them ipad? -- the mopeds? no. — powered, is it? -- them ipad? -- the mopeds? no, people _ powered, is it? -- them ipad? -- the mopeds? no, people might— powered, is it? -- them ipad? -- the| mopeds? no, people might remember these, the mopeds? no, people might remember these. they used _ mopeds? no, people might remember these, they used to _ mopeds? no, people might remember these, they used to sell _ mopeds? no, people might remember these, they used to sell them - mopeds? no, people might remember these, they used to sell them in - these, they used to sell them in woolworths catalogues in the 905! it is a kick—start, no battery, a9 cc
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two stroke. about 28 miles an hour is its dizzying top speed. so hopefully it will make it up all of the hills and hopefully it will make the hills and hopefully it will make the journey. the hills and hopefully it will make thejourney. i the hills and hopefully it will make the journey-— the journey. i guess you can probably _ the journey. i guess you can probably push _ the journey. i guess you can probably push it _ the journey. i guess you can probably push it if _ the journey. i guess you can probably push it if it - the journey. i guess you can | probably push it if it doesn't! the journey. i guess you can - probably push it if it doesn't! very good luck to you, i think it is 1800 miles, good luck, have fun, and enjoy. miles, good luck, have fun, and en'o . . ~' miles, good luck, have fun, and en'o . . ,, . ,, miles, good luck, have fun, and en'o. . ,, . ,, miles, good luck, have fun, and en'o. . . . enjoy. thank you. thank you so much, thank ou. enjoy. thank you. thank you so much, thank you. hopefully _ enjoy. thank you. thank you so much, thank you. hopefully the _ enjoy. thank you. thank you so much, thank you. hopefully the sun - enjoy. thank you. thank you so much, thank you. hopefully the sun will- thank you. hopefully the sun will shine on paul— thank you. hopefully the sun will shine on paul and _ thank you. hopefully the sun will shine on paul and his— thank you. hopefully the sun will. shine on paul and his extraordinary adventure, what do you make of that, carol? i hope it does as well! good morning everyone. the sun isn't shining today, fairly cloudy at the moment, light rain and drizzle and today will be cool and that is the forecast for tomorrow as well. you can see was happening, whether france is southwards producing some rain currently, the isobars are quite close together so a brisk north—westerly wind. and it is
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feeding in all of this cloud from the atlantic. there will be some brighter breaks today, when the rain clears the south—east it will brighten up here, we should see some breaks around dorset into the west country. south—east wales, north—east england and eastern scotland as well as shetland. for the rest of us, it will remain fairly cloudy. these are the average wind speeds, not particularly strong, more of a breeze than a wind. temperatures today ranging from 1a in the north to 20 in the south. as we head through the evening and overnight, we hang on to a lot of cloud, they can afford some patchy light rain and drizzle, and a new band of rain sweeps in particularly in shetland. not a cold night, 11 to 15 degrees. into tomorrow, we start off with cloud, the rain across the northern isles pushes away into the sea, unlike today we will see some breaks in the shelter of the hills and mountains.
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eastern scotland, north—east england, east wales, down towards southern counties. the breeze is not as brisk as today. into wednesday and thursday, here we have a weather front fishing from the west towards the east. its northern extent is still open to a bit of doubt, but it does look like it is going to start off on a bright note in the south—east before the cloud and rain piled in from the west. for scotland and northern ireland on thursday, it will remain fairly cloudy, and here too we will see some patchy light rain and drizzle with temperatures 13 to 21. still below average for this stage in august. it should be roughly 20 to 2a north to south. we say goodbye to the weather front on thursday. on friday, the isobars open out and we have another weather front coming in from the atlantic. for many of us on friday it will be a dry day, more sunshine, yes, still areas of cloud floating around at
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times, and you can see the next weather front coming in across ireland, getting into northern ireland, getting into northern ireland by the end of the day. temperatures, 13 in the north the highs of 21 in the south. then as we head on into the weekend, it looks varied. we will see some rain at times, on saturday you can see that is coming in across the north, and then slip southwards during sunday. the other thing you notice about the weekend weather is even though it is wet at times, the temperature will be a little bit higher. especially so on sunday, and especially so across the south—east of the country. i will have lots more whether in about half an hour. stay with us, the headlines are coming next.
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good morning, welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and louise minchin. our headlines today: after the taliban seize power in afghanistan, a defiantjoe biden defends his decision to pull us troops out of the country. i stand squarely behind my decision. after 20 years, i've learned the hard way that there was never a good time to withdraw us forces. more british troops are sent to help with the evacuation from kabul airport, after chaotic scenes yesterday. good morning. more than a million jobs were vacant
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in the uk injuly as the economy bounces back from the pandemic. but there are key shortages in important industries. i will assess what it could mean for the construction industry here in huddersfield. naomi osaka struggles through a press conference at the cincinnati open. it was her first since withdrawing from the french open to protect her mental health. jodie comer tells us about her hollywood breakthrough, how she mastered an american accent, and the time she got her mum's sunday lunch on set. good morning. it's tuesday, august 17th. our top story. president biden has defended his decision to withdraw us troops from afghanistan. he was speaking after hundreds of afghans tried to board aircraft in a desperate attempt to flee kabul. mr biden said he was surprised at the speed of the taliban advance, but blamed afghanistan's leaders for the defeat. the truth is they did unfold more
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quickly— the truth is they did unfold more quickly than we had anticipated. so what has _ quickly than we had anticipated. so what has happened? afghanistan's political— what has happened? afghanistan's political leaders gave up and fled the country. the afghan military collapsed — the country. the afghan military collapsed sometimes without trying to fight _ collapsed sometimes without trying to fight. if anything, the development of the past week reinforced that any us military involvement in afghanistan now, was the right— involvement in afghanistan now, was the right decision. that involvement in afghanistan now, was the right decision.— the right decision. that was president — the right decision. that was president biden. _ our political correspondent, helen catt, is in westminster. we have heard from the us president. the uk government is talking about today about refugees?— the uk government is talking about today about refugees? yeah, the uk government's _ today about refugees? yeah, the uk government's focus _ today about refugees? yeah, the uk government's focus continues - today about refugees? yeah, the uk government's focus continues to - today about refugees? yeah, the uk government's focus continues to be | government's focus continues to be on getting _ government's focus continues to be on getting british nationals out of afghanistan, getting those afghans who have worked with british forces. we are _ who have worked with british forces. we are told — who have worked with british forces. we are told this morning the airport in kabut— we are told this morning the airport in kabul is _ we are told this morning the airport in kabul is more calm than it was yesterday — in kabul is more calm than it was yesterday. there have been questions about— yesterday. there have been questions about what— yesterday. there have been questions about what would be done for other
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afghans. _ about what would be done for other afghans, afghan refugees. the government is working on what is being _ government is working on what is being described as a bespoke resettlement scheme for afghans. dominic— resettlement scheme for afghans. dominic raab, the foreign secretary, told us _ dominic raab, the foreign secretary, told us a _ dominic raab, the foreign secretary, told us a little bit about that earlier _ earlier. we are looking at earner. — we are looking at this very closely. i we are looking at this very closely. i spoke _ we are looking at this very closely. i spoke to— we are looking at this very closely. ispoke to the _ we are looking at this very closely. i spoke to the home _ we are looking at this very closely. ! spoke to the home secretary- we are looking at this very closely. i i spoke to the home secretary about this yesterday— i spoke to the home secretary about this yesterday and _ i spoke to the home secretary about this yesterday and the _ i spoke to the home secretary about this yesterday and the prime - this yesterday and the prime minister _ this yesterday and the prime minister. we _ this yesterday and the prime minister. we will— this yesterday and the prime minister. we will be - this yesterday and the prime minister. we will be looking| this yesterday and the prime i minister. we will be looking at this yesterday and the prime - minister. we will be looking at a bespoke — minister. we will be looking at a bespoke arrangement. - minister. we will be looking at a bespoke arrangement. we - minister. we will be looking at a bespoke arrangement. we are i minister. we will be looking at a bespoke arrangement. we are a| bespoke arrangement. we are a bighearted — bespoke arrangement. we are a bighearted nation. _ bespoke arrangement. we are a bighearted nation. as _ bespoke arrangement. we are a bighearted nation. as i - bespoke arrangement. we are a bighearted nation. as i know- bespoke arrangement. we are a i bighearted nation. as i know from bespoke arrangement. we are a - bighearted nation. as i know from my own history. — bighearted nation. as i know from my own history. as— bighearted nation. as i know from my own history, as priti _ bighearted nation. as i know from my own history, as priti patel— bighearted nation. as i know from my own history, as priti patel knows - own history, as priti patel knows from _ own history, as priti patel knows from hers. — own history, as priti patel knows from hers. we _ own history, as priti patel knows from hers, we have _ own history, as priti patel knows from hers, we have always- own history, as priti patel knows i from hers, we have always provided safe haven— from hers, we have always provided safe haven for— from hers, we have always provided safe haven for those _ from hers, we have always provided safe haven for those fleeing - safe haven for those fleeing persecution _ safe haven for those fleeing persecution. and _ safe haven for those fleeing persecution. and i'm - safe haven for those fleeing persecution. and i'm sure i safe haven for those fleeing i persecution. and i'm sure the safe haven for those fleeing - persecution. and i'm sure the home secretary— persecution. and i'm sure the home secretary and — persecution. and i'm sure the home secretary and the _ persecution. and i'm sure the home secretary and the prime _ persecution. and i'm sure the home secretary and the prime minister- secretary and the prime minister will set _ secretary and the prime minister will set out — secretary and the prime minister will set out the _ secretary and the prime minister will set out the details _ secretary and the prime minister will set out the details in - secretary and the prime minister will set out the details in due - will set out the details in due course — will set out the details in due course. it— will set out the details in due course. . will set out the details in due course. , :, :, , course. it is thought of this will be similar— course. it is thought of this will be similar to _ course. it is thought of this will be similar to the _ course. it is thought of this will be similar to the scheme - course. it is thought of this will be similar to the scheme that i course. it is thought of this will i be similar to the scheme that was set up _ be similar to the scheme that was set up for— be similar to the scheme that was set up for syrian refugees in 2014. 20.000 _ set up for syrian refugees in 2014. 20,000 refugees have resettled in the uk _ 20,000 refugees have resettled in the uk over five years. that will do for syrians — the uk over five years. that will do for syrians most in need. this is expected — for syrians most in need. this is expected to be afghans most in need, pa rticuta riy _ expected to be afghans most in need, particularly women and girls. at the
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moment— particularly women and girls. at the moment there isn't any sense of how many— moment there isn't any sense of how many people would be helped. the home _ many people would be helped. the home office will be guided by the capacity— home office will be guided by the capacity of local councils. there will be — capacity of local councils. there will be pressure from mps capacity of local councils. there will be pressure from mp5 for it to be reasonably generous. but there are practical challenges as well, in terms _ are practical challenges as well, in terms of— are practical challenges as well, in terms of how you get so many girls out of _ terms of how you get so many girls out of the — terms of how you get so many girls out of the country and accessing this scheme when the taliban control is so widely— this scheme when the taliban control is so widely spread.— is so widely spread. helen, thank ou. our chief international correspondent lyse doucet joins us now. good morning. two questions. one is about the immediate situation on the ground. that has been referenced in relation to those individual troops and what they might be doing. then there is they might be doing. then there is the bigger question of what government can form? yes, i think man of government can form? yes, i think many of our _ government can form? yes, i think many of our viewers _ government can form? yes, i think many of our viewers would - government can form? yes, i think many of our viewers would have i government can form? yes, i think. many of our viewers would have seen both the _ many of our viewers would have seen both the heartbreaking and hard stopping — both the heartbreaking and hard stopping images of absolute chaos and panic— stopping images of absolute chaos and panic at kabul international
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airport— and panic at kabul international airport yesterday, with notjust thousands trying to get onto the planes _ thousands trying to get onto the planes that were able to land and were _ planes that were able to land and were ready to take off, with people desperate — were ready to take off, with people desperate to flee, but people actually — desperate to flee, but people actually running with the planes, some _ actually running with the planes, some of— actually running with the planes, some of them holding onto the aircraft — some of them holding onto the aircraft. unimaginably, the images of some _ aircraft. unimaginably, the images of some people falling from the plane — of some people falling from the plane. how do you begin to comprehend that kind of panic? we hear this— comprehend that kind of panic? we hear this morning that they have been _ hear this morning that they have been able — hear this morning that they have been able to clear the airfield. the message _ been able to clear the airfield. the message has been sent out. it is not clear yet— message has been sent out. it is not clear yet how observed 805. telling people. _ clear yet how observed 80s. telling people, certainly foreigners, americans, british, other nationals, not to— americans, british, other nationals, not to come— americans, british, other nationals, not to come to the airport until they— not to come to the airport until they are — not to come to the airport until they are told they have a confirmed flight _ they are told they have a confirmed flight. kabulairport they are told they have a confirmed flight. kabul airport is now open. evacuation — flight. kabul airport is now open. evacuation flights will continue with the — evacuation flights will continue with the priority being given to military— with the priority being given to military flights which are taking out the — military flights which are taking out the last american and british nationals— out the last american and british nationals as well as afghans who work— nationals as well as afghans who work for— nationals as well as afghans who work for both militaries and nations _
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work for both militaries and nations. , . . ~ work for both militaries and nations. , , . ,, :, , . nations. lyse, talk to us a little bit more. _ nations. lyse, talk to us a little bit more. we — nations. lyse, talk to us a little bit more, we were _ nations. lyse, talk to us a little bit more, we were speaking - nations. lyse, talk to us a little bit more, we were speaking to | bit more, we were speaking to dominic raab, and he was talking about talks in doha involving what was the afghan government and the taliban leaders. what prospects are there for how any kind of government will form? and how does the international community watch what they do? international community watch what the do? ~ ~ international community watch what the do? ~ . they do? well, i think we are watchini they do? well, i think we are watching it- _ they do? well, i think we are watching it. for _ they do? well, i think we are watching it. for afghans, - watching it. for afghans, particularly in kabul, it is watching it hour by hour. there are these _ watching it hour by hour. there are these scenes on the street where afghans — these scenes on the street where afghans have never met a taliban before. _ afghans have never met a taliban before, and taliban who have never met kabut— before, and taliban who have never met kabul residents before, a crossing — met kabul residents before, a crossing pass, coming face to face, trying _ crossing pass, coming face to face, trying to— crossing pass, coming face to face, trying to figure out how they are actually — trying to figure out how they are actually going to find some way to -et actually going to find some way to get along — actually going to find some way to get along in the city. slowly some control— get along in the city. slowly some control has — get along in the city. slowly some control has been established with statements coming from taliban leaders — statements coming from taliban leaders are saying the police have left, leaders are saying the police have left. the _ leaders are saying the police have left, the other authorities have left. _ left, the other authorities have left. we — left, the other authorities have left, we are sending in more forces to ensure _ left, we are sending in more forces to ensure there is no looting. we
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are getting — to ensure there is no looting. we are getting reports that the taliban leaders _ are getting reports that the taliban leaders based in the gulf state of qatar— leaders based in the gulf state of qatar witt— leaders based in the gulf state of qatar will soon start arriving in kabut — qatar will soon start arriving in kabul. there is even a report that the taliban— kabul. there is even a report that the taliban spokesman, and it has lon- the taliban spokesman, and it has long been— the taliban spokesman, and it has long been questioned whether he actually— long been questioned whether he actually exists, is it more than one person? _ actually exists, is it more than one person? summary sent me a photo and yes he _ person? summary sent me a photo and yes he exists _ person? summary sent me a photo and yes he exists. he is actually going to show— yes he exists. he is actually going to show his — yes he exists. he is actually going to show his face today. i think it is too _ to show his face today. i think it is too early— to show his face today. i think it is too early days. we taliban themselves have been surprised by themselves have been surprised by the speed — themselves have been surprised by the speed and scale of their victory~ _ the speed and scale of their victory. and as to how other governments can work with them? welli _ governments can work with them? well, almost every government told the taliban there won't be a military— the taliban there won't be a military victory. there has to be a political _ military victory. there has to be a political solution. the taliban didn't— political solution. the taliban didn't listen to that. it was not expected — didn't listen to that. it was not expected they would listen to that. we heard _ expected they would listen to that. we heard ben wallace, the defence secretary. _ we heard ben wallace, the defence secretary, say more than a month ago they were _ secretary, say more than a month ago they were ready to work with the taliban— they were ready to work with the taliban if— they were ready to work with the taliban if they came to power. i was
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in kabut— taliban if they came to power. i was in kabul at — taliban if they came to power. i was in kabul at that time and i was shocked — in kabul at that time and i was shocked. people were saying, the taliban— shocked. people were saying, the taliban have not come to power yet, why has _ taliban have not come to power yet, why has he _ taliban have not come to power yet, why has he already sang to them, it is 0k— why has he already sang to them, it is ok if— why has he already sang to them, it is ok if you — why has he already sang to them, it is ok if you come to power? boris johnson _ is ok if you come to power? boris johnson much more cautious, saying we have _ johnson much more cautious, saying we have to _ johnson much more cautious, saying we have to wait and see. there has to be _ we have to wait and see. there has to be a _ we have to wait and see. there has to be a concerted international approach _ to be a concerted international approach. so, these are early days. only approach. so, these are early days. 0nty three — approach. so, these are early days. only three governments have recognised the taliban last time. this time — recognised the taliban last time. this time i— recognised the taliban last time. this time i think there will be more recognition. — this time i think there will be more recognition, but let'sjust see this time i think there will be more recognition, but let's just see what kind of— recognition, but let's just see what kind of a _ recognition, but let's just see what kind of a government and what kind of foreign _ kind of a government and what kind of foreign policy —— where reform policy _ of foreign policy —— where reform policy emerges. these are questions that are _ policy emerges. these are questions that are not — policy emerges. these are questions that are notjust policy emerges. these are questions that are not just existential for afghans. — that are not just existential for afghans, they are urgent for afghanistan's neighbours and near neighbours and countries like britain — neighbours and countries like britain. , . neighbours and countries like britain. , , . , :, britain. very interesting what you were saying _ britain. very interesting what you were saying about _ britain. very interesting what you were saying about how _ britain. very interesting what you | were saying about how individuals living in kabul, for example, a meeting for the first time the taliban. we spoke to a university lecturer in kabul this morning, who recounted an encounterjust along those lines this morning. he said he went out onto the street for the first time came face—to—face with
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one of the taliban troops. he asked him if he could video, just a moment, to reassure some of his students that you kind of can have some kind of relationship. he wasn't allowed to do that. everything was ok. these are tiny stepping stones, aren't they?— aren't they? yes, and remember, i mean how— aren't they? yes, and remember, i mean how can _ aren't they? yes, and remember, i mean how can you _ aren't they? yes, and remember, i mean how can you forget, - aren't they? yes, and remember, i mean how can you forget, when i aren't they? yes, and remember, i | mean how can you forget, when the taliban— mean how can you forget, when the taliban were in power in afghanistan in the _ taliban were in power in afghanistan in the late _ taliban were in power in afghanistan in the late 19905, they banned television, they banned any kind of images _ television, they banned any kind of images 0f— television, they banned any kind of images. of course, more notoriously, they didn't— images. of course, more notoriously, they didn't allow girls to go to school. — they didn't allow girls to go to school. or— they didn't allow girls to go to school, orwomen they didn't allow girls to go to school, or women to work. now i know from going _ school, or women to work. now i know from going to — school, or women to work. now i know from going to doha quite frequently to meet— from going to doha quite frequently to meet taliban leaders, they have become _ to meet taliban leaders, they have become quite savvy in using the latest _ become quite savvy in using the latest technology. what's not clear is how _ latest technology. what's not clear is how their edict tos on women working — is how their edict tos on women working and girls going to school, they say— working and girls going to school, they say they will be given their rights _ they say they will be given their rights within islam, but that is not really— rights within islam, but that is not really clear. there have been some early— really clear. there have been some early signs. — really clear. there have been some early signs, a lot of discussing
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going — early signs, a lot of discussing going on. _ early signs, a lot of discussing going on, about the fact they have allowed _ going on, about the fact they have allowed female television anchors to continue _ allowed female television anchors to continue broadcasting the news. many women _ continue broadcasting the news. many women i _ continue broadcasting the news. many women i have heard from say they don't _ women i have heard from say they don't trust — women i have heard from say they don't trust them, they are just trying — don't trust them, they are just trying to— don't trust them, they are just trying to show a positive image, a good _ trying to show a positive image, a good start— trying to show a positive image, a good start for the international community. as soon as they actually are fully— community. as soon as they actually are fully in _ community. as soon as they actually are fully in charge, they will start telling _ are fully in charge, they will start telling women either that they have to cover— telling women either that they have to cover up — telling women either that they have to cover up more, or that they can't be on _ to cover up more, or that they can't be on air— to cover up more, or that they can't be on air at— to cover up more, or that they can't be on air at all. we have also seen images _ be on air at all. we have also seen images which have been really gut—wrenching for afghans to see, symbols _ gut—wrenching for afghans to see, symbols like the afghan trickle are being _ symbols like the afghan trickle are being taken down from the hill in kabul. _ being taken down from the hill in kabul. the — being taken down from the hill in kabul, the white flag of the taliban going _ kabul, the white flag of the taliban going up _ kabul, the white flag of the taliban going up. the country that so many afghans _ going up. the country that so many afghans knew and loved and felt a part of— afghans knew and loved and felt a part of it _ afghans knew and loved and felt a part of it is — afghans knew and loved and felt a part of it is slowly disappearing in front— part of it is slowly disappearing in front of— part of it is slowly disappearing in front of their eyes. and their sense of belonging, that almost existential dread, do i still have a place _ existential dread, do i still have a place in _ existential dread, do i still have a place in afghanistan? do i, a
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person. _ place in afghanistan? do i, a person, the afghan woman or young man who _ person, the afghan woman or young man who has emerged over the past 20 years _ man who has emerged over the past 20 years. can _ man who has emerged over the past 20 years. can i _ man who has emerged over the past 20 years, can i still be that same person— years, can i still be that same person while living in afghanistan? we know— person while living in afghanistan? we know in recent months many, especially— we know in recent months many, especially young people, have left, saying _ especially young people, have left, saying the afghanistan i knew is steadily— saying the afghanistan i knew is steadily being, you now, wrenched away— steadily being, you now, wrenched away from — steadily being, you now, wrenched away from under my feet. and i won't have a _ away from under my feet. and i won't have a place _ away from under my feet. and i won't have a place in the new afghanistan. those _ have a place in the new afghanistan. those who _ have a place in the new afghanistan. those who simply cannot get out, and some _ those who simply cannot get out, and some don't— those who simply cannot get out, and some don't want to get out, they don't _ some don't want to get out, they don't want — some don't want to get out, they don't want to be a refugee, will soon _ don't want to be a refugee, will soon find — don't want to be a refugee, will soon find out if the person they are can be _ soon find out if the person they are can be the — soon find out if the person they are can be the person who still has a place _ can be the person who still has a place and — can be the person who still has a place and a — can be the person who still has a place and a space within the new afghanistan. place and a space within the new afghanistan-— afghanistan. lyse, really interesting _ afghanistan. lyse, really interesting speaking - afghanistan. lyse, really interesting speaking to i afghanistan. lyse, really. interesting speaking to you. afghanistan. lyse, really- interesting speaking to you. thank you. interesting speaking to you. thank ou. , . interesting speaking to you. thank ou. , , ., ~' interesting speaking to you. thank ou. ,, . ~ . interesting speaking to you. thank ou. ,, . ~ , you. lyse talked about people watchini you. lyse talked about people watching that _ you. lyse talked about people watching that footage. - watching the footage of afghanistan descend into chaos is upsetting for anyone, but for those with friends and relatives still living there, it's terrifying and deeply worrying. tim muffett has been spending time with members of london's afghan community as the events of the last
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few days have unfolded. fearful and scared things will get worse. afghanistan is in fire. my family don't have water, food. they are sleeping on the road. i have kids. i am a mother. last night i couldn't sleep. people dying for no reason, people torturing for no reason. why? because they are human? i ask great britain to help them, to have the humanity. that's all i can say. the afghanistan and central asian association centre in feltham, west london. for 20 years, this organisation has offered support to the afghan community in the uk. most who come here have friends and family in a country in crisis. the speed at which the situation has changed has proved shocking. over the weekend the taliban reached kabul. there are kids suffering.
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there are old people, seniors, homeless people. the situation has clearly changed dramatically. have you been speaking to your family? yeah, their life is in danger. we don't know what will happen next. it's a shame. it's a shame for all of us. not only me, for all of the human beings, all of the communities around the world. maria's mother and four sisters are in the afghan capital. three weeks ago, my father, he passed away. now they are by themselves. on friday, before the taliban reached the city, she managed to speak to them. i'm watching the situation right now. people are coming from the provinces. the girls have nothing to
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do but stay on the streets. they were begging for money and for food and water. it is a bad situation. getting worse day by day. talking to your sister in those circumstances, how hard is that for you? it is too much. it is heartbreaking for me because this situation, i can't do for them anything. amidst the despair there are positive moments here. lessons in farsi for children, many of whom have never been to the country of their parents' birth. and classes in english for adults looking to improve their language skills. as well as food, advice and support. how important is this place at the moment, given the terrible things happening in afghanistan? i think this place plays a vital role. people are becoming very, very, notjust upset, but also anxious and confused
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about what will happen in the future. events 3500 miles away have never felt so close to home. tim muffett, bbc news. hashmat nawabi is a former british army interpreter, and majorjames bolter is an army reserve officer. they worked together in afghanistan. morning to you both. good morning. and from london we're joined byjames glancy, a former royal marine who served three tours in afghanistan. this year he's been filming a documentary there. ijust want i just want to talk to you first of all. you have been in the uk two months now. just watching these pictures, the desperate scenes in kabul, people climbing over walls, trying to catch planes by running along the tarmac, how does that impact on you? i along the tarmac, how does that impact on you?— along the tarmac, how does that imiact on ou? :, ,, :, . ,, impact on you? i would like to thank the home secretary _ impact on you? i would like to thank the home secretary and _ impact on you? i would like to thank the home secretary and the - impact on you? i would like to thankj the home secretary and the defence
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secretary. _ the home secretary and the defence secretary, honourable mps, embassy staff, secretary, honourable mps, embassy staff. and _ secretary, honourable mps, embassy staff, and all the people behind the scenes— staff, and all the people behind the scenes working desperately to bring us safety~ _ scenes working desperately to bring us safety i— scenes working desperately to bring us safety. i want to thank him for bringing — us safety. i want to thank him for bringing your safety. i know there are a _ bringing your safety. i know there are a lot — bringing your safety. i know there are a lot of — bringing your safety. i know there are a lot of efforts being done to bring _ are a lot of efforts being done to bring all— are a lot of efforts being done to bring all of the people working for the british forces to the british nation~ — the british forces to the british nation. there is a lot being done to bring _ nation. there is a lot being done to bring them — nation. there is a lot being done to bring them here in safety. of course. — bring them here in safety. of course, the situation in kabul was some _ course, the situation in kabul was some -- — course, the situation in kabul was some —— something no one anticipated before~ _ some —— something no one anticipated before~ its— some —— something no one anticipated before. it's happened so quickly. it is heartbreaking for all of us. i mean. — is heartbreaking for all of us. i mean. we _ is heartbreaking for all of us. i mean, we cannot say anything because these _ mean, we cannot say anything because these pictures speak for themselves. i these pictures speak for themselves. i know— these pictures speak for themselves. i know my— these pictures speak for themselves. i know my colleagues, how they feel. i know my colleagues, how they feel. i have _ i know my colleagues, how they feel. i have been— i know my colleagues, how they feel. i have been in the same situation. i 'ust i have been in the same situation. i just want— i have been in the same situation. i just want to — i have been in the same situation. i just want to send a message as well to them. _ just want to send a message as well to them, don't lose hope. there are a lot of— to them, don't lose hope. there are a lot of efforts being done to bring these _ a lot of efforts being done to bring these people to safety. i know the
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situation _ these people to safety. i know the situation is — these people to safety. i know the situation is very terrible. we these people to safety. i know the situation is very terrible.— situation is very terrible. we know from ben wallace, _ situation is very terrible. we know from ben wallace, who _ situation is very terrible. we know from ben wallace, who spoke - situation is very terrible. we know from ben wallace, who spoke to i situation is very terrible. we knowl from ben wallace, who spoke to us yesterday, in amongst your praise for the uk government, he said a reality check that some people will be left behind. some of your colleagues who will have worked with the us and the british military will be left behind. that will be a very scary place to be?— be left behind. that will be a very scary place to be? well, yeah, it is based on the _ scary place to be? well, yeah, it is based on the situation. _ scary place to be? well, yeah, it is based on the situation. i _ scary place to be? well, yeah, it is based on the situation. i mean, i scary place to be? well, yeah, it is| based on the situation. i mean, it's very difficult — based on the situation. i mean, it's very difficult. it is totally heartbreaking. but as we all know, there _ heartbreaking. but as we all know, there are _ heartbreaking. but as we all know, there are enormous efforts being done _ there are enormous efforts being done the — there are enormous efforts being done. the americans are put in extra troops _ done. the americans are put in extra troops to— done. the americans are put in extra troops to help facilitate this as quickly— troops to help facilitate this as quickly as possible. compared to the situation _ quickly as possible. compared to the situation now, they should have made this effort— situation now, they should have made this effort a _ situation now, they should have made this effort a long time ago. they
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knew— this effort a long time ago. they knew something was going to happen. bein- knew something was going to happen. being an _ knew something was going to happen. being an interpreter has never been easy in— being an interpreter has never been easy in a _ being an interpreter has never been easy in a place like afghanistan, or being _ easy in a place like afghanistan, or being a _ easy in a place like afghanistan, or being a support group for the us or uk nation _ being a support group for the us or uk nation has never been easy. these things— uk nation has never been easy. these things could _ uk nation has never been easy. these things could have been prevented. 0bviousty— things could have been prevented. obviously it is now too late. i’eopte's _ obviously it is now too late. people's lives are at stake. they are obviously hiding. i am in contact _ are obviously hiding. i am in contact with my family members and some _ contact with my family members and some of— contact with my family members and some of my— contact with my family members and some of my colleagues who are still in afghanistan. they were saying nobody _ in afghanistan. they were saying nobody is — in afghanistan. they were saying nobody is answering the phone in the embassy _ nobody is answering the phone in the embassy. based on my experience, and i see embassy. based on my experience, and i see the _ embassy. based on my experience, and i see the results of efforts going on, i see the results of efforts going on. so _ i see the results of efforts going on. so i — i see the results of efforts going on, so i advised them to stay where they were _ on, so i advised them to stay where they were to— on, so i advised them to stay where they were to protect themselves and their family. there is help. they were to protect themselves and theirfamily. there is help. i they were to protect themselves and their family. there is help. i know it's taking — their family. there is help. i know it's taking time. but it is the best thing _ it's taking time. but it is the best thing they— it's taking time. but it is the best thing they can do for now. |
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it's taking time. but it is the best thing they can do for now.- thing they can do for now. i know ou two thing they can do for now. i know you two met _ thing they can do for now. i know you two met because _ thing they can do for now. i know you two met because you - thing they can do for now. i know you two met because you work i you two met because you work together in afghanistan. for you as well, hash is here in the uk but presumably there will be other people you have worked with who have maybe not made it yet? let’s people you have worked with who have maybe not made it yet?— maybe not made it yet? let's put thinis maybe not made it yet? let's put things into _ maybe not made it yet? let's put things into context. _ maybe not made it yet? let's put things into context. we _ maybe not made it yet? let's put things into context. we brought i maybe not made it yet? let's put. things into context. we brought over about— things into context. we brought over about a _ things into context. we brought over about a thousand _ things into context. we brought over about a thousand interpreters - things into context. we brought over about a thousand interpreters plus i about a thousand interpreters plus their family— about a thousand interpreters plus theirfamily members. _ about a thousand interpreters plus their family members. the - about a thousand interpreters plus their family members. the british| their family members. the british army— their family members. the british army atone — their family members. the british army alone employed _ their family members. the british army alone employed 7000 - their family members. the british army alone employed 7000 of. their family members. the british| army alone employed 7000 of the their family members. the british - army alone employed 7000 of the 20 years we _ army alone employed 7000 of the 20 years we have — army alone employed 7000 of the 20 years we have been _ army alone employed 7000 of the 20 years we have been in _ army alone employed 7000 of the 20 years we have been in afghan. - army alone employed 7000 of the 20 years we have been in afghan. the i years we have been in afghan. the british— years we have been in afghan. the british council— years we have been in afghan. the british council have _ years we have been in afghan. the british council have employed - british council have employed probably— british council have employed probably another— british council have employed probably another 2000 - british council have employed probably another 2000 on - british council have employed j probably another 2000 on top british council have employed i probably another 2000 on top of that _ probably another 2000 on top of that so — probably another 2000 on top of that so right— probably another 2000 on top of that. so right now— probably another 2000 on top of that. so right now we _ probably another 2000 on top of that. so right now we have - probably another 2000 on top of. that. so right now we have brought over probably — that. so right now we have brought over probably less _ that. so right now we have brought over probably less than _ that. so right now we have brought over probably less than 15% - that. so right now we have brought over probably less than 15% of - that. so right now we have broughti over probably less than 15% of those who are _ over probably less than 15% of those who are eligible. _ over probably less than 15% of those who are eligible. so, _ over probably less than 15% of those who are eligible. so, yeah, - over probably less than 15% of those who are eligible. so, yeah, it's- who are eligible. so, yeah, it's shocking _ who are eligible. so, yeah, it's shocking i— who are eligible. so, yeah, it's shocking-— who are eligible. so, yeah, it's shockini. ~ :, , :, :, . shocking. i know you two met a cou i le shocking. i know you two met a copple of _ shocking. i know you two met a couple of weeks _ shocking. i know you two met a couple of weeks ago. _ shocking. i know you two met a couple of weeks ago. what - shocking. i know you two met a couple of weeks ago. what was| shocking. i know you two met a i couple of weeks ago. what was it like, that moment when you see him here in the uk? it like, that moment when you see him here in the uk?— here in the uk? it was a slightly last-minute _ here in the uk? it was a slightly last-minute when _ here in the uk? it was a slightly last-minute when we _ here in the uk? it was a slightly last-minute when we saw - here in the uk? it was a slightly last-minute when we saw each | here in the uk? it was a slightly - last-minute when we saw each other last—minute when we saw each other at the _ last—minute when we saw each other at the airport — last—minute when we saw each other at the airport when _ last—minute when we saw each other at the airport when has _
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last—minute when we saw each other at the airport when has ram - last—minute when we saw each other| at the airport when has ram dropped me off— at the airport when has ram dropped me off at _ at the airport when has ram dropped me off at the — at the airport when has ram dropped me off at the air— at the airport when has ram dropped me off at the air terminal. _ at the airport when has ram dropped me off at the air terminal. we - at the airport when has ram dropped me off at the air terminal. we have i me off at the air terminal. we have been _ me off at the air terminal. we have been in _ me off at the air terminal. we have been in communication— me off at the air terminal. we have been in communication with - me off at the air terminal. we have been in communication with each i been in communication with each other— been in communication with each other for— been in communication with each other for nine _ been in communication with each other for nine years. _ been in communication with each other for nine years. it— been in communication with each other for nine years. it is- been in communication with each other for nine years. it is still- other for nine years. it is still pretty— other for nine years. it is still pretty special _ other for nine years. it is still pretty specialjust _ other for nine years. it is still pretty specialjust to - other for nine years. it is still pretty specialjust to see - other for nine years. it is still| pretty specialjust to see each other— pretty specialjust to see each other in— pretty specialjust to see each other in the _ pretty specialjust to see each other in the flesh _ pretty specialjust to see each other in the flesh again. - pretty specialjust to see each other in the flesh again. it - pretty specialjust to see each| other in the flesh again. it was like old — other in the flesh again. it was like old times. _ other in the flesh again. it was like old times.— other in the flesh again. it was like old times. james, it is lovely to hear that. _ like old times. james, it is lovely to hear that. the _ like old times. james, it is lovely to hear that. the emotions - like old times. james, it is lovely to hear that. the emotions are i like old times. james, it is lovely i to hear that. the emotions are very raw around this. especially for afghans and for the families who were there. what i know too for members of the military who feel this very personally. is that the same for you?— this very personally. is that the same for you? this very personally. is that the same for ou? , . :, . same for you? very much so. for all my brothers — same for you? very much so. for all my brothers and _ same for you? very much so. for all my brothers and sisters _ same for you? very much so. for all my brothers and sisters in _ same for you? very much so. for all my brothers and sisters in the - my brothers and sisters in the forces. — my brothers and sisters in the forces. they— my brothers and sisters in the forces, they say— my brothers and sisters in the forces, they say is _ my brothers and sisters in the forces, they say is a _ my brothers and sisters in the forces, they say is a really- forces, they say is a really tumultuous _ forces, they say is a really tumultuous and _ forces, they say is a really tumultuous and upsetting| forces, they say is a really- tumultuous and upsetting time. i myself. _ tumultuous and upsetting time. i myself. i— tumultuous and upsetting time. i myself. i live _ tumultuous and upsetting time. i myself, i live with _ tumultuous and upsetting time. i myself, i live with ptsd - tumultuous and upsetting time. i myself, i live with ptsd every - myself, i live with ptsd every single — myself, i live with ptsd every single day _ myself, i live with ptsd every single day but _ myself, i live with ptsd every single day. but to _ myself, i live with ptsd every single day. but to see - myself, i live with ptsd every single day. but to see the - myself, i live with ptsd every i single day. but to see the events over the — single day. but to see the events over the past— single day. but to see the events over the past few _ single day. but to see the events over the past few weeks, - single day. but to see the events over the past few weeks, and - single day. but to see the events| over the past few weeks, and the last 48— over the past few weeks, and the last 48 hours. _ over the past few weeks, and the last a8 hours, it _ over the past few weeks, and the last a8 hours, it leaves _ over the past few weeks, and the last a8 hours, it leaves you - over the past few weeks, and the last a8 hours, it leaves you withi last a8 hours, it leaves you with hi i last a8 hours, it leaves you with big questions— last a8 hours, it leaves you with big questions as _ last a8 hours, it leaves you with big questions as to _ last a8 hours, it leaves you with big questions as to what - last a8 hours, it leaves you with big questions as to what we - last a8 hours, it leaves you withl big questions as to what we were doing _ big questions as to what we were doing and — big questions as to what we were doing and why _ big questions as to what we were doing and why it— big questions as to what we were doing and why it has— big questions as to what we were doing and why it has happened. i big questions as to what we were | doing and why it has happened. it big questions as to what we were i doing and why it has happened. it is heartbreaking _ doing and why it has happened. it is heartbreaking. it _ doing and why it has happened. it is heartbreaking. it is _ doing and why it has happened. it is heartbreaking. it is all— doing and why it has happened. it is heartbreaking. it is all the - doing and why it has happened. it is heartbreaking. it is all the raw- heartbreaking. it is all the raw emotions _ heartbreaking. it is all the raw emotions you _ heartbreaking. it is all the raw emotions you can _ heartbreaking. it is all the raw emotions you can think- heartbreaking. it is all the raw emotions you can think of. - heartbreaking. it is all the raw emotions you can think of. onj heartbreaking. it is all the raw emotions you can think of. on that theme, emotions you can think of. on that
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theme. we — emotions you can think of. on that theme, we have _ emotions you can think of. on that theme, we have got _ emotions you can think of. on that theme, we have got another - emotions you can think of. on that theme, we have got another guest emotions you can think of. on that i theme, we have got another guest to go to any moment, and that themes, when we speak to someone of the foreign secretary and ben wallace, we spoke yesterday, they say we achieved a lot over that time. there were achievements. don't forget that. and that is the line both president biden and borisjohnson have said many times. does that go anywhere to helping you with looking at what you are seeing now, the situation in afghanistan? it at what you are seeing now, the situation in afghanistan? it does. i have been speaking _ situation in afghanistan? it does. i have been speaking to _ situation in afghanistan? it does. i have been speaking to a _ situation in afghanistan? it does. i have been speaking to a lot - situation in afghanistan? it does. i have been speaking to a lot of- situation in afghanistan? it does. i have been speaking to a lot of my| have been speaking to a lot of my colleagues — have been speaking to a lot of my colleagues over— have been speaking to a lot of my colleagues over the _ have been speaking to a lot of my colleagues over the last _ have been speaking to a lot of my colleagues over the last few- have been speaking to a lot of myj colleagues over the last few days. we realise — colleagues over the last few days. we realise that _ colleagues over the last few days. we realise that every— colleagues over the last few days. we realise that every time - colleagues over the last few days. we realise that every time that i colleagues over the last few days. | we realise that every time that we were there — we realise that every time that we were there we _ we realise that every time that we were there we did _ we realise that every time that we were there we did make _ we realise that every time that we were there we did make a - we realise that every time that we i were there we did make a difference and we _ were there we did make a difference and we can— were there we did make a difference and we can see _ were there we did make a difference and we can see the _ were there we did make a difference and we can see the differences- were there we did make a difference and we can see the differences in. and we can see the differences in afghanistan _ and we can see the differences in afghanistan. we _ and we can see the differences in afghanistan. we can _ and we can see the differences in afghanistan. we can see - and we can see the differences in afghanistan. we can see people| and we can see the differences in- afghanistan. we can see people going about their— afghanistan. we can see people going about their normal— afghanistan. we can see people going about their normal business. - afghanistan. we can see people going about their normal business. that - afghanistan. we can see people going about their normal business. that is i about their normal business. that is what _ about their normal business. that is what it— about their normal business. that is what it was— about their normal business. that is what it was all— about their normal business. that is what it was all about. _ about their normal business. that is what it was all about. and _ about their normal business. that is what it was all about. and now- about their normal business. that is what it was all about. and now to i what it was all about. and now to see all— what it was all about. and now to see all of— what it was all about. and now to see all of that _ what it was all about. and now to see all of that effort _ what it was all about. and now to see all of that effort almost - what it was all about. and now to see all of that effort almost to i see all of that effort almost to change — see all of that effort almost to change overnight— see all of that effort almost to change overnight and - see all of that effort almost to change overnight and gone - see all of that effort almost to change overnight and gone to| see all of that effort almost to - change overnight and gone to waste, you get— change overnight and gone to waste, you get a _ change overnight and gone to waste, you get a lot — change overnight and gone to waste, you get a lot of— change overnight and gone to waste, you get a lot of questions. _ change overnight and gone to waste, you get a lot of questions. how. - you get a lot of questions. how, where,
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you get a lot of questions. how, where. why? — you get a lot of questions. how, where. why? i— you get a lot of questions. how, where, why? ijust _ you get a lot of questions. how, where, why? i just want - you get a lot of questions. how, where, why? i just want to - you get a lot of questions. how, where, why? i just want to go i you get a lot of questions. how, | where, why? ijust want to go to you get a lot of questions. how, - where, why? ijust want to go to our other guest, james glancy, former royal marine veteran and film—maker. i know you have been in afghanistan recently and you have got concerns about people you were working with only recently?— only recently? yes, absolutely. my inbox is full — only recently? yes, absolutely. my inbox is full of _ only recently? yes, absolutely. my inbox is full of people _ only recently? yes, absolutely. my inbox is full of people desperately | inbox is full of people desperately trying _ inbox is full of people desperately trying to— inbox is full of people desperately trying to get out. all night long i am getting messages. i want to read you something of the desperation of people _ you something of the desperation of people. this is a girl we filmed recently — people. this is a girl we filmed recently. she said, we are now in kabul. _ recently. she said, we are now in kabul. the — recently. she said, we are now in kabul, the house is locked, it has three _ kabul, the house is locked, it has three small— kabul, the house is locked, it has three small rooms and there are five families— three small rooms and there are five families in— three small rooms and there are five families in here is the situation gets— families in here is the situation gets worse. taliban forces are roaming — gets worse. taliban forces are roaming around, girls can't go out without— roaming around, girls can't go out without being fully covered and a man in— without being fully covered and a man in the — without being fully covered and a man in the background. this is very dangerous— man in the background. this is very dangerous for me. i was an active member— dangerous for me. i was an active member of— dangerous for me. i was an active member of the women's cycle theme. i can't say— member of the women's cycle theme. i can't say more about her. she is pleading — can't say more about her. she is pleading with me, please can you get us out _ pleading with me, please can you get us out i_ pleading with me, please can you get us out. i hearthe pleading with me, please can you get us out. i hear the military can get foreigners — us out. i hear the military can get foreigners out. can you please help
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us? so— foreigners out. can you please help us? so many of us are getting these. it is us? so many of us are getting these. it is so _ us? so many of us are getting these. it is so desperate. the situation has deteriorated that quickly that it has— has deteriorated that quickly that it has been almost impossible to conduct — it has been almost impossible to conduct an evacuation or repatriation. i really do fear for the future _ repatriation. i really do fear for the future for many of these women, many— the future for many of these women, many of— the future for many of these women, many of the — the future for many of these women, many of the members of the afghan armed _ many of the members of the afghan armed forces and the government who supported _ armed forces and the government who supported us, because whilst the taliban— supported us, because whilst the taliban is— supported us, because whilst the taliban is running a very good pr campaign — taliban is running a very good pr campaign now, saying they have changed. — campaign now, saying they have changed, the evidence does not suggest — changed, the evidence does not suggest that from across the country _ suggest that from across the country. they have released tens of thousands _ country. they have released tens of thousands of criminals, of al-qaeda members _ thousands of criminals, of al-qaeda members across afghanistan. i think the members across afghanistan. ! think the real— members across afghanistan. i think the real retribution is going to happen— the real retribution is going to happen in— the real retribution is going to happen in the future. and there will be huge _ happen in the future. and there will be huge blood—letting. it is a concerning situation. we be huge blood-letting. it is a concerning situation. we know they are t ini concerning situation. we know they are trying to _ concerning situation. we know they are trying to get — concerning situation. we know they are trying to get people _ concerning situation. we know they are trying to get people out - concerning situation. we know they are trying to get people out quickly| are trying to get people out quickly from the airport, diplomats and all the rest of it. but what about the uk government? a real concern from
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your point of view. what could they do that would make a difference? well, we need to get as many of these _ well, we need to get as many of these people out as possible. we have a _ these people out as possible. we have a responsibility. we invaded the country to get rid of the taliban _ the country to get rid of the taliban. we sold them a dream of democracy. — taliban. we sold them a dream of democracy, freedom, and now it has been _ democracy, freedom, and now it has been washed away in a of weeks. and there _ been washed away in a of weeks. and there is— been washed away in a of weeks. and there is a _ been washed away in a of weeks. and there is a humanitarian disaster. so we need _ there is a humanitarian disaster. so we need to— there is a humanitarian disaster. so we need to be planning notjust for the next _ we need to be planning notjust for the next 72— we need to be planning notjust for the next 72 hours, or whatever the evacuation — the next 72 hours, or whatever the evacuation timeline is, we need to be planning for the next few months and years _ be planning for the next few months and years. how are we going to support— and years. how are we going to support people in afghanistan? there is also _ support people in afghanistan? there is also another issue. there is one province _ is also another issue. there is one province holding out. a former mujahedin commander and his son are there _ mujahedin commander and his son are there they— mujahedin commander and his son are there. they are surrounded by the taliban _ there. they are surrounded by the taliban we — there. they are surrounded by the taliban. we have a potential humanitarian disaster as they don't have enough food potentially to get them through the winter. there are so many— them through the winter. there are so many other issues that need to be thought—
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so many other issues that need to be thought about. it is notjust about britain _ thought about. it is notjust about britain and — thought about. it is notjust about britain and america now turning our backs _ britain and america now turning our backs and _ britain and america now turning our backs and sing, that is it, we have had enough — backs and sing, that is it, we have had enough of the region. the story is not _ had enough of the region. the story is not over— had enough of the region. the story is not over and we do have a responsibility to the people of afghanistan. do responsibility to the people of afghanistan.— responsibility to the people of afihanistan. . :, , , afghanistan. do you want to pick up on some of— afghanistan. do you want to pick up on some ofjames _ afghanistan. do you want to pick up on some ofjames was _ afghanistan. do you want to pick up on some of james was saying - afghanistan. do you want to pick up - on some of james was saying command on some ofjames was saying command that message got directly from somebody in kabul hiding away, and the that people have now? are you hearing the same thing?— the that people have now? are you hearing the same thing? yeah, i am in constant — hearing the same thing? yeah, i am in constant contact _ hearing the same thing? yeah, i am in constant contact with _ hearing the same thing? yeah, i am in constant contact with some - hearing the same thing? yeah, i am in constant contact with some of - hearing the same thing? yeah, i am in constant contact with some of myj in constant contact with some of my family— in constant contact with some of my family members and friends. we have been watching the news since these rapid captures happen. all people are panicking and they fear for their— are panicking and they fear for their lives. what the taliban are saying _ their lives. what the taliban are saying and — their lives. what the taliban are saying and their actions on the ground — saying and their actions on the ground are totally different. they are going — ground are totally different. they are going door—to—door to look for government— are going door—to—door to look for government employees, the journalists and everything. the
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picture — journalists and everything. the picture is — journalists and everything. the picture is totally different in kabul — picture is totally different in kabul. we achieved a lot since the coalition— kabul. we achieved a lot since the coalition forces came to afghanistan. we achieved a lot. people — afghanistan. we achieved a lot. people do not want the taliban to destroy— people do not want the taliban to destroy these achievements. first of all, destroy these achievements. first of all. these _ destroy these achievements. first of all, these people need to be evacuated who worked for the coalition _ evacuated who worked for the coalition. and after that they should — coalition. and after that they should put pressure on the taliban to not— should put pressure on the taliban to not destroy the 20 years of achievement. so, yes, the stuff coming — achievement. so, yes, the stuff coming from kabul is very horrifying, it is very shocking. they— horrifying, it is very shocking. they should put the pressure on the taliban— they should put the pressure on the taliban do— they should put the pressure on the taliban do not destroy all these achievements and to let these people live their— achievements and to let these people live their lives.— live their lives. thank you. thank ou ve live their lives. thank you. thank you very much — live their lives. thank you. thank you very much indeed _ live their lives. thank you. thank you very much indeed for - live their lives. thank you. thank you very much indeed for coming live their lives. thank you. thank i you very much indeed for coming to talk to us. also james glancy and majorjames poulter. thank you.
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you are watching bbc breakfast. still to come... the actorjodie comer has been telling us why she's head—over—heels to have made a movie with ryan reynolds — and she's given a few hints about the next series of killing eve. you can hear the full interview in around ten minutes. now it's time for the weather with carol. good weather with carol. morning. there is a little bit of good morning. there is a little bit of sunshine in the forecast for the next couple of days. but by no means will we all see it. it is quite cloudy. you can see it from this picture sent in by one of our weather watchers. picture sent in by one of our weatherwatchers. for picture sent in by one of our weather watchers. for the next few days it is not only going to be cloudy. the cloud will be thick enough for apache light rain and drizzle. cooler than we expect at this stage of august. temperatures barely getting to 20 degrees. the rain continues to push steadily
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southwards and eastwards. it is not particularly heavy. behind it one or two showers. it is courtesy of this weather front. two showers. it is courtesy of this weatherfront. also, one look two showers. it is courtesy of this weather front. also, one look at the isobars tells you that we are going to have quite a breezy day ahead today. nothing too strong. nonetheless you will notice it. that breeze is dragging on the moisture from the atlantic, hence all of this cloud. they can offer murky conditions around the hills and the coast, the trans— pennine routes, for example. shetland will see a little bit of sunshine today. parts of eastern scotland will also see some sunshine. north—east england are seeing some sunshine. northern ireland will stay fairly cloudy with rain on and off. sunshine across south—east wales into the west country, dorset and behind the rain in the south—east of england. but really the emphasis is on a fairly cloudy day. temperatures 1a to 19. you may hit 20. this evening and overnight we are looking at a fair bit of cloud. that cloud still thick
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enough for some drunkenness in the air. we have also got some rain coming in across the aisles, especially shetland. not a cold night. temperatures between 11 and 16 degrees. as we got through tomorrow, very similar to today in that there will be a lot of cloud around. it will be thick enough for some patchy light rain or drizzle. the rain clearing the northern ireland. we will see some breaks. once again parts of eastern scotland, north—east england, east wales and down towards the south—west of the country, with temperatures 13 to 20 degrees. as we head into thursday, more sunshine. they will still be some cloud. we will still see some light rain or drizzle. we have got a weather front coming in from the south—west moving east through the day, eradicating early brightness in the east. the northern extent of this band of rain is still open to question but this is still open to question but this is what we think at the moment. you
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can see how it is fragmenting through the day. temperatures 13 to 20 degrees. that clears on thursday night. on friday, a of dry weather. sunshine. variable cloud. by the time we get to the end of the afternoon we will have some rain creeping into northern ireland. temperatures are still low for the time of the year. more later. hello, this is breakfast with louise minchin and charlie stayt. we'll get the latest official figures on job vacancies this morning but we know that certain sectors are struggling to recruit staff. ben's on a new housing development in west yorkshire to tell us more. and i think he is going to do some building as well. good morning! we have already had the figures at 7am, and they tell us the figures at 7am, and they tell us the unemployment rate has fallen very slightly as the economy
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recovers from the pandemic. but it tells us that _ recovers from the pandemic. but it tells us that there _ recovers from the pandemic. but it tells us that there were _ recovers from the pandemic. but it tells us that there were more - recovers from the pandemic. but it tells us that there were more than 1 million vacancies, job vacancies in the month ofjuly, a record high. testament to... then the builder! i think what has happened is, you think someone has put a nail through the cable? we are going to give it another try. are you there again? we can see you. can you there again? we can see you. can you hear us? yes, no? we are back, we hope? let me explain a little bit about why some of those workers may be perhaps are not able to be on sites like this, there is a shortage. eu and brexit withdrawal agreement meant that the new rules for eu workers would be coming to the uk, they might need to get visas which makes it harder, which has led to a shortage. there's also been a
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shortage already of things like hgv drivers, we know that was causing a shortage of things like food on supermarket shelves, there were already problems for the pandemic. as the economy opens up again after the pandemic, there is a bottleneck, lots of industries looking for lots of workers as they get back up and running and that has led to a shortage. so huge problems for business. the latest official figures we have had this morning give us a sense of where some of those vacancies may be and why there is a shortage of things like construction. there are also concerns about how long it will last and whether the economy will start to come down when things get back to a bit more normality as the economy recovers. kate runs a recruitment firm, nice to see you. talk to me about why there are these problems. in some industries, real shortages of workers, real shortages of skills, and that could cause problems will not only things like
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construction but in hotels and hospitality, across the board. if everyone is on holiday at the moment, you will see lots of people not being able to go to hospitality because of a lack of staff. there's lots of reasons for that, whether it is eu workers not being able to come back, furlough was an amazing scheme and we needed it but it is now hampering the job market and security, people think, what is going to happen with the pandemic, is it over? what is a chance of another lockdown? people don't really want to move in an uncertain market and we have a candidate market and we have a candidate market that isn't happening. the fact that people aren't moving is a real problem, sticking in their own jobs and no movement so people cannot progress and take a newjob and then the whole job market grinds to a halt. band and then the whole 'ob market grinds to a halt. : . and then the whole 'ob market grinds to a halt. : , . a to a halt. and there is a skill shortage _ to a halt. and there is a skill shortage as _ to a halt. and there is a skill shortage as well, _ to a halt. and there is a skill shortage as well, people - to a halt. and there is a skill. shortage as well, people have to a halt. and there is a skill- shortage as well, people have moved around sectors and got otherjobs are now those sectors are coming back, we then find we are struggling
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to recruit people in those sectors. employers have to do something different to attract people. people are questioning and they want to do something different. they have had something different. they have had so much time to think, the pandemic has affected us in all different ways. to has affected us in all different wa s. :, ~ , has affected us in all different wa s. :, «a . has affected us in all different was. :, . ,, ways. to think people have spent the last 18 months _ ways. to think people have spent the last 18 months thinking _ ways. to think people have spent the last 18 months thinking they - ways. to think people have spent the last 18 months thinking they are - ways. to think people have spent the last 18 months thinking they are not i last 18 months thinking they are not doing thejob last 18 months thinking they are not doing the job they wanted to do, they are going to retrain so may be some industries that relied on relatively cheap and unskilled labour do not have an appeal? taste relatively cheap and unskilled labour do not have an appeal? we are seeini labour do not have an appeal? we are seeing wages — labour do not have an appeal? we are seeing wages increases _ labour do not have an appeal? we are seeing wages increases well _ labour do not have an appeal? we are seeing wages increases well and - labour do not have an appeal? we are seeing wages increases well and that i seeing wages increases well and that is part of it. the worklife balance, people saying, i don't want to work late or do a shift. they have experience that you can move sectors. at the beginning of the pandemic people thought, i have only experienced tourism or hospitality but they have no real is if you have great communication skills or good service you can do lots of different jobs and that has changed the dynamic of the whole job market. so
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a sense of what is happening in the jobs market and how difficult it is in some sectors for employers to be able to recruit the right people. it's also about training, the guy who runs his building site said that his problem is not necessarily a lack of skills but an ageing workforce. people he has worked with for decades getting a little bit older and thinking about retiring, and there are not the new skills coming through the system. maybe it is partly an education problem or the lack of apprenticeship training opportunities for young people or the attractiveness of certain careers that people wanting to do other things, careers that people wanting to do otherthings, rather careers that people wanting to do other things, rather than the more traditional industries. but they have not got a shortage here on this site but across the construction industry is a real problem. i will leave you with that glorious view we have this morning looking right down the valley. it's a little windy and wild but it is glorious. as a train comes over the viaduct. lovely, thank you.
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we knowjodie comer best for her success on the small screen, particularly as the assassin villanelle in the hit bbc drama killing eve. but now she's on the big screen, alongside hollywood's leading man ryan reynolds in the fantasy—action comedy free guy. i caught up withjodie, via videolink, for a chat. i've got to do something really exciting, jodie comer, that i've never done before, are you ready? that never wears off, that novelty, it never gets old. shall i do it again, just forfun? yes! and now what? now the magic happens. let's talk about the movie first of all. it's called free guy. captain khakis, come here. let's go _ closer. there he is. blue shirt guy. blue shirt, yes. hello, officer. rabbit. the film is split into kind of two parts, one is the real world, one is a video game.
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and it's about this character called guy who is, he thinks he is in the real world but he's actually an npc, he's a background character in an open world video game. ok, npc stands for a... non—playable character. right. so he's just in the background, you know, kind of stuck in the cycle of doing the same thing every day. and he starts to get these feelings of, you know, there has to be more to this. and i play milly, who is a games programmer in the real world and she has an avatar called molotov girl and that's how i meet guy in the video game. tell us a little bit about working with ryan reynolds. i mean, he's everything you think he's going to be and more. he's really, really wonderful. we should definitely go. is that a glock in your pocket? no. what? it's two glocks.
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i met him initially for my first audition, and i actually flew to new york the day after we'd wrapped on season two of killing eve. so i was a little bit of a zombie. but he was wonderful, it was him and sean, and he, you know, he creates a really fun, relaxed atmosphere, and is always kind of making sure that everyone is having a good time and everyone feels safe and is happy. and that always encourages the best out of people. so i feel very lucky that that was my first experience on a huge film set, and it was with the people who it was with. so, you play two different accents in this. which is closest to the realjodie? definitely to the rp, because i've done it before, you know? this was the first time i was having to do american quite solidly. wow, life on the big city, ain't nothing like it. looks like rain. has anyone seen my cats? and what's really interesting,
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and i really had to learn, is like, especially with humour and jokes, the british sense of humour and the american sense of humour are quite different. and so is the delivery of our language and our inflections. were accents always your thing? because i also, killing eve as well, you nail so many different accents. was that always your thing? it was something i did as a kid with my dad, like, when there was adverts on the television, or we were watching a certain programme, we would always kind of imitate them at home. so i don't think i was ever shy to try them. what about your friends and your mum and dad when you're at home? do you slip straight back in? yeah, it's impossible not to. and then it's funny because if i come back to set and i've been around my family a lot, everyone is like, oh, you've been home, and i'm like, yeah. and they are like, can you just slow down a little bit? i tend to speed up a little bit when i've been round the family. i've seen you posting on insta, for example, you might be on set but your mum still gets you sunday dinner, is that right?
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yeah, well, i was lucky enough, we were filming in liverpool at the start of the year and i never, i've never really gotten the opportunity to do that. and we were shooting a film called help for channel a, and, yeah, my mum does a roast dinner every sunday and we were working on sundays and i asked my driver, i was like, will you please, do you mind picking up my roast dinnerfrom home? and the legend, he did, and i got to eat it on set. and of course i had to show it off to everyone because i was so happy, i was so smug! why wouldn't you ? and you work in that with one of your, i think he's really helped you, we've talked to him about you, stephen graham, on help as well. you have a really good close relationship, don't you? yeah, definitely. i mean, we speak near enough every day. stephen's wonderful. he kind of gave me my first start, he introduced me to his agent
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who is now my agent, and since we first worked together on that one day on good cop, we've been pestering jane, our agent, to find a job for us to do together. nothing ever kind of came up. so it was really incredible that we were able to, you know, work with jack thorne on this project and be a part of it from the very beginning and get some proper screen time together, it was amazing. i know that you were at school and are still friends with katarina johnson—thompson, for example. yeah. oh, my gosh, did you watch her? that must have been really tough as a friend. i know! well, i've been doing press for the past couple of days so i was kind of locked away in a room, but we were speaking to all the girls on whatsapp, and everyone was keeping each other up—to—date. but, yeah, i heard she's home soon, we're all planning to kind of get her in our arms and hopefully she can kind of let her hair down and relax for a little while. but we are all just so fiercely, fiercely proud of her.
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and i'm sure they are of you. and you must have seen how hard she's had to work to be there and be there and all the rest of it. completely. i mean, it's a different type of dedication, you know, the sacrifices that she's had to make. and also the kind of mental strength that you have to have, i think shows what an athlete she is. but more importantly the woman that she is, you know, there is so much to her. so much going on with you, not least season four of killing eve. what can we look forward to? i can't say anything! we are halfway through, is what i can say. the series gets off to a very interesting start, you know, there's a particular episode for villanelle that we really kind of break some boundaries with her. they're really pushing the boat out. we know this is the final season now so i think it's kind of like, anything goes in a way.
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so that was really fun. but, yeah, i'm sworn to secrecy so i'm going to shut up before i say any more. final question, do you like villanelle? i love her! i love her. i've spent so much time with her and i think i'm going to miss getting away with all that trouble and not having to apologise for it and not having to feel guilty for anything. you know, that kind of mischief. and also just being on the set and being in really absurd situations. it's so weird but it's so fun. thank you very much for your time here on bbc breakfast. thank you, lovely to chat. can you say a nice goodbye in the homejodie? bye, everyone! you take care, jodie. take care, bye. you can seejodie in "free guy", which is out in cinemas now. the next season of killing eve is on its way, who knows when, though? i
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have gone back and started watching it all over again.— it all over again. does it work second time _ it all over again. does it work second time round? - it all over again. does it work second time round? it - it all over again. does it work second time round? it does. | it all over again. does it work - second time round? it does. some thinis do second time round? it does. some things do don't _ second time round? it does. some things do don't they? _ second time round? it does. some things do don't they? let's - second time round? it does. some things do don't they? let's talk i things do don't they? let's talk about the paralympics - things do don't they? let's talk about the paralympics now. - in a minute i'll be catching up with the paralympic cyclist dame sarah storey before she heads off to the games, which is something she has done seven times before. and she stands a good chance of returning as britain's most decorated paralympian of all time. let's take a moment to remind ourselves of her achievements so far. she won the road race in london, she is such a legend of the sport. and
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it's actually a great honour to see her today. there we have it, there we have it, sarah storey. she has the gold medal. dame sarahjoins us now from heathrow. good morning. we should just explain, you are in heathrow, getting ready, quarantining, ready to travel, but you could come back as the most decorated paralympian we have ever seen. how does that feel, is that too much pressure? i have ever seen. how does that feel, is that too much pressure?— is that too much pressure? i don't know! it's — is that too much pressure? i don't know! it's very — is that too much pressure? i don't know! it's very exciting. _ is that too much pressure? i don't know! it's very exciting. i'm - is that too much pressure? i don't know! it's very exciting. i'm goingj know! it's very exciting. i'm going to use the word exciting far too much in the next couple of weeks, i feel like i'm about to go to my first games, almost. it's an incredible opportunity and to think that i'm still here eight games later, that's the bit i'm struggling to get my head around because more
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people have talked about how long it has been. . . . ,, has been. that is mad, your eighth games. has been. that is mad, your eighth games- this _ has been. that is mad, your eighth games. this one _ has been. that is mad, your eighth games. this one is _ has been. that is mad, your eighth games. this one is going _ has been. that is mad, your eighth games. this one is going to - has been. that is mad, your eighth games. this one is going to be - games. this one is going to be significantly different because of the preparations, the pandemic. talk about how you have been able to train and prepared for this. i about how you have been able to train and prepared for this. i think it was quite _ train and prepared for this. i think it was quite easy _ train and prepared for this. i think it was quite easy to _ train and prepared for this. i think it was quite easy to train - train and prepared for this. i think it was quite easy to train for- train and prepared for this. i think it was quite easy to train for a - it was quite easy to train for a cyclist to start with because we were allowed a slot for exercise each day during the first lockdown and then we got the elite sport exemptions to train more and competitions came back, we went to the world championship injune and retained to titles. since the travel restrictions have eased i have had a training camp in lanzarote, and then there has been in the fourth lockdown and family quarantine before i went to the training camp a few days ago and now we are trying to maintain that bubble before we get to the paralympic camp injapan. what is it like in that bubble? lats
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what is it like in that bubble? lots of trainin i what is it like in that bubble? lots of training and _ what is it like in that bubble? lots of training and downtime, normally i have got two little ones keeping me entertained, and some stories, hello to louisa and charlie because i'm sure they are watching! it feels like i have been away for so long already. it's only been a couple of days. it'sjust getting already. it's only been a couple of days. it's just getting the final bits of the jigsaw puzzle in place, the icing on the training cake and we start racing a week tomorrow. hagar we start racing a week tomorrow. how do ou we start racing a week tomorrow. how do you manage _ we start racing a week tomorrow. how do you manage to combine it all? i do you manage to combine it all? i do ask this question a lot, how do you combine the pressures of being a mum and training and then the travel and being away for such a long time? i know it's tricky.— i know it's tricky. being away without them, _ i know it's tricky. being away without them, normally - i know it's tricky. being away without them, normally they - i know it's tricky. being away| without them, normally they are i know it's tricky. being away - without them, normally they are part of my travelling crew and they are help in getting the luggage on the belt, they love the whole logistics side. this is quite a strange experience for me being away from them but i have a lot of support back at home. my mum and dad usually
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travel with us and my husband barney, this time it is a new experience and i'm just trying to navigate it day by day. what experience and i'm just trying to navigate it day by day. what have ou been navigate it day by day. what have you been doing — navigate it day by day. what have you been doing to _ navigate it day by day. what have you been doing to try _ navigate it day by day. what have you been doing to try and - navigate it day by day. what have you been doing to try and keep i navigate it day by day. what have i you been doing to try and keep the kids occupied? you been doing to try and keep the kids «copied?— you been doing to try and keep the kids occupied? they have been able to io to kids occupied? they have been able to go to tennis _ kids occupied? they have been able to go to tennis and _ kids occupied? they have been able to go to tennis and swimming, - kids occupied? they have been able to go to tennis and swimming, theyj to go to tennis and swimming, they have been living it up, and getting back to more normal things. before i left in the training camp, we had to be ina left in the training camp, we had to be in a family bubble to maintain the security to make sure we didn't pick up the virus before we came away. they are probably living there away. they are probably living there a better life away from me at the moment. normally we are out on bike rides, going out in the hills walking, playing trains, reading books, bouncing on a trampoline, it's very different in the last few weeks but normally it's just normal family life but then i take myself off the training or they come to the competition and cheer from the sidelines. they are particularly good at shouting very loud at the races! :, . :, good at shouting very loud at the races! :, , :, . , . races! lots of the athletes we have been speaking _ races! lots of the athletes we have been speaking to _ races! lots of the athletes we have been speaking to say _ races! lots of the athletes we have
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been speaking to say that - races! lots of the athletes we have been speaking to say that it - races! lots of the athletes we have been speaking to say that it is - been speaking to say that it is actually harder going into any competition, any games, when your favourite, when you have this legacy that you are building. we look at you and think, you're brilliant at what you do, you must be able to keep winning and winning. does it get harder as the games go on? i think in some ways it does, certainly on the morning of the race, you have that big juggernaut of success behind you, can you continue to add to that? but it's also an opportunity to prove to yourself that the training you have been doing has been in the right direction, that all of the work you have put in has gone to a great performance. i'mjust have put in has gone to a great performance. i'm just as excited about the opportunity to race as i am about the uncertainty and what it might bring. i think it's really important to focus on the positives and life will go on after it regardless of the results. kids bring that levelling up to you if you like, when they see you, they're just delighted to see you and they ask you how the race has gone. i think for me it's about following those processes, doing all of the
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things i have done in training for so many years, and hopefully it all comes together on the day but if it doesn't, that's ok. and we just keep ploughing on. i'm excited more than anything. t ploughing on. i'm excited more than an hini. . , :, :, , anything. i am 'ust going to pause because anything. i am just going to pause because charlie _ anything. i am just going to pause because charlie wants _ anything. i am just going to pause because charlie wants a _ anything. i am just going to pause because charlie wants a quick - anything. i am just going to pause i because charlie wants a quick word. lovely to see you. louise and i are burning _ lovely to see you. louise and i are burning with — lovely to see you. louise and i are burning with pride. but lovely to see you. louise and i are burning with pride.— lovely to see you. louise and i are burning with pride. but her daughter is iood burning with pride. but her daughter is good louisa! _ burning with pride. but her daughter is good louisa! -- _ burning with pride. but her daughter is good louisa! -- michael— burning with pride. but her daughter is good louisa! -- michael record i is good louisa! —— michael record louisai _ is good louisa! —— michael record louisai we — is good louisa! —— michael record louisa! we had _ is good louisa! —— michael record louisa! we had a _ is good louisa! —— michael record louisa! we had a louisa - is good louisa! —— michael record louisa! we had a louisa and - is good louisa! —— michael record i louisa! we had a louisa and charlie, and we _ louisa! we had a louisa and charlie, and we were — louisa! we had a louisa and charlie, and we were like, _ louisa! we had a louisa and charlie, and we were like, gosh! _ louisa! we had a louisa and charlie, and we were like, gosh! [— louisa! we had a louisa and charlie, and we were like, gosh!— and we were like, gosh! i didn't name them _ and we were like, gosh! i didn't name them after _ and we were like, gosh! i didn't name them after you _ and we were like, gosh! i didn't name them after you too, - and we were like, gosh! i didn't name them after you too, yes! | and we were like, gosh! i didn't i name them after you too, yes! -- and we were like, gosh! i didn't - name them after you too, yes! -- i name them after you too, yes! —— i did name them after you too! taste name them after you too, yes! -- i did name them after you too! we know that's true! lovely- that's true! lovely to i that's true! i lovely to talk that's true! - lovely to talk to you, that-s truer — lovely to talk to you, thank you very much, sarah. you have exciting news as well, sally? you have exciting news as well, sall ? �* , ,
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you have exciting news as well, sall? . :, . , sally? it's been announced this mornini sally? it's been announced this morning that — sally? it's been announced this morning that two _ sally? it's been announced this morning that two of _ sally? it's been announced this morning that two of our - sally? it's been announced this morning that two of our films i sally? it's been announced this i morning that two of our films from last year have made it to the shortlist of the national television awards, two films that we are incredibly proud of that all of the team worked very hard on. the first one is about the brilliant rob burrow, former leeds rino rugby league player, who is living with motor neurone disease. the number of people, opposition parents _ the number of people, opposition parents and that, the us is he's good. _ parents and that, the us is he's good. that— parents and that, the us is he's good, that rob, —— they always used to say. _ good, that rob, —— they always used to say. he's— good, that rob, —— they always used to say, he's good, that rob but he's never— to say, he's good, that rob but he's never going — to say, he's good, that rob but he's never going to make it because he's not good _ never going to make it because he's not good enough. the}t never going to make it because he's not good enough-— never going to make it because he's not good enough. they 'ust knew that if he iot not good enough. they 'ust knew that if he got the — not good enough. they 'ust knew that if he got the ballh not good enough. they 'ust knew that if he got the ball and _ not good enough. theyjust knew that if he got the ball and he _ not good enough. theyjust knew that if he got the ball and he set _ not good enough. theyjust knew that if he got the ball and he set off - if he got the ball and he set off running. — if he got the ball and he set off running. they— if he got the ball and he set off running, they weren't - if he got the ball and he set off running, they weren't going - if he got the ball and he set off running, they weren't going to| if he got the ball and he set off- running, they weren't going to catch on. brilliant rob burrow there. we have also been nominated for another programme in the same category of authored documentary, about marcus rashford and his campaigning for free school meals.— rashford and his campaigning for
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free school meals. thank you very much and on _ free school meals. thank you very much and on behalf _ free school meals. thank you very much and on behalf of _ free school meals. thank you very much and on behalf of the - free school meals. thank you very | much and on behalf of the families as well that you're helping, ijust want to say a big thank you from them as well because they'll really appreciate it, thank you very much, speak to you soon. bye—bye. good conversation, good outcome. i think now we've managed to finally be on the same page. but the main thing for me is it's happening, and families are going to be a lot better off. t families are going to be a lot better off-— families are going to be a lot better off. , :, , , . better off. i should 'ust explain that the phone _ better off. i should 'ust explain that the phone call _ better off. i should just explain that the phone call that - better off. i should just explain j that the phone call that marcus better off. i should just explain - that the phone call that marcus was taking there was from the prime minister. very casually taking a phone call from borisjohnson who was tailing him about the change in government policy. taste]!!! was tailing him about the change in government policy.— was tailing him about the change in i government policy._ there government policy. well done. there are other programmes _ government policy. well done. there are other programmes available - government policy. well done. there | are other programmes available which we will talk about in a moment! it is a public vote so you can go and vote, the actual event is on the september nights, voting is open right now via the national television awards. lots of different
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categories. television awards. lots of different cateiories. . ~ television awards. lots of different cateiories. . ,, . categories. talking about the documentary _ categories. talking about the documentary is _ categories. talking about the documentary is that - categories. talking about the documentary is that sally - categories. talking about the i documentary is that sally made, categories. talking about the - documentary is that sally made, one of the point about that is getting another nomination brings even more attention to the issues raised. which is the reason it matters so much. : . ~ which is the reason it matters so much. : . ,, i. which is the reason it matters so much. : . ,, . ,, :, much. and thank you so much, i know lots of ou much. and thank you so much, i know lots of you were _ much. and thank you so much, i know lots of you were very _ much. and thank you so much, i know lots of you were very involved - lots of you were very involved watching them but also in all of the causes they dealt with so thank you. the event is on september ninth and voting is now open via the national television awards website. to be nominated twice in the same category reminds me of when kate winslet was up against herself in the best actress in the baftas in 19 —— in the best actress in the baftas in 19 -- in 1999. the best actress in the baftas in 19 —— in 1999. yes, kate garraway is nominated for the documentary about her husband's battle with covid, you
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have katie price talking about the challenges of the health problems of her youngest child.— her youngest child. there the sub'ect her youngest child. there the subject matter _ her youngest child. there the subject matter on _ her youngest child. there the subject matter on every i her youngest child. there the subject matter on every of i her youngest child. there the i subject matter on every of those documentaries is very important. let's go to the big categories. is it first called the drama award? returning drama. the important thing to say with the ntas, they have been delayed until september because they are normally injanuary. so it's 18 months of tv rather than 12. so some brokers are eligible like line of duty, leading the way with four nominations, the returning drama, season six, the finale watched by 13 million people. and in the acting
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category, the three big cast members are nominated, vicky mcclure, adrian dunbar, martin compston, i'm surprised that the dog didn't get nominated! ian was an incompetent officer repeatedly promoted through the ranks _ repeatedly promoted through the ranks. the more influence he gained over police _ ranks. the more influence he gained over police operations are more valuable — over police operations are more valuable he became so eventually this incompetent officer became the linchpin _ this incompetent officer became the linchpin in _ this incompetent officer became the linchpin in sinister enterprises. however— linchpin in sinister enterprises. however none of this, none of this could _ however none of this, none of this could have — however none of this, none of this could have happened without the wilful _ could have happened without the wilful blindness of those in power, and those — wilful blindness of those in power, and those in power should be held to account _ hastings there! let's talk about the other categories, _ hastings there! let's talk about the other categories, presenting - hastings there! let's talk about the other categories, presenting is i other categories, presenting is always interesting? t’iz�* other categories, presenting is always interesting? tv presenter has been won 19 — always interesting? tv presenter has been won 19 years _ always interesting? tv presenter has been won 19 years and _ always interesting? tv presenter has been won 19 years and over - always interesting? tv presenter has been won 19 years and over and i been won 19 years and over and under, the last people to win it
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were michael barrymore. that's how far back we are going it. an interesting first—time nominee in this category this year, piers morgan. the year he managed to get 50,000 complaints from ofcom for his comments on meghan markle and walk off good morning britain back in march. he is —— here is a moment that alex beresford had a go at him about his comment about meghan markle. people thought it would be back but he wasn't. you markle. people thought it would be back but he wasn't.— back but he wasn't. you don't like meihan back but he wasn't. you don't like meghan markle, _ back but he wasn't. you don't like meghan markle, you _ back but he wasn't. you don't like meghan markle, you have - back but he wasn't. you don't like meghan markle, you have made i back but he wasn't. you don't like | meghan markle, you have made it back but he wasn't. you don't like i meghan markle, you have made it so clear a _ meghan markle, you have made it so cleara number of times meghan markle, you have made it so clear a number of times on this programme, a numberof clear a number of times on this programme, a number of times. and i understand _ programme, a number of times. and i understand that you have a personal relationship with meghan markle all had one. _ relationship with meghan markle all had one, and she cut you off. she is entitled _ had one, and she cut you off. she is entitled to _ had one, and she cut you off. she is entitled to cut you off if she wants to. entitled to cut you off if she wants to has _ entitled to cut you off if she wants to has she — entitled to cut you off if she wants to. has she said anything about you since _ to. has she said anything about you since you _ to. has she said anything about you since you cut you off? i don't she has _ since you cut you off? i don't she has. and — since you cut you off? i don't she has. and yet _ since you cut you off? i don't she has, and yet you continue to trash her~ _ has, and yet you continue to trash her. �* :, , ,:, , her. ok, i'm done with this, sorry. no, her. ok, i'm done with this, sorry. no. no... — her. ok, i'm done with this, sorry.
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no. no--- see _ her. ok, i'm done with this, sorry. no, no... see you _ her. ok, i'm done with this, sorry. no, no... see you later. _ her. ok, i'm done with this, sorry. no, no... see you later. sorry, i no, no... see you later. sorry, can't do _ no, no... see you later. sorry, can't do this. _ no, no... see you later. sorry, can't do this. this _ no, no... see you later. sorry, can't do this. this is _ no, no... see you later. sorry, can't do this. this is absolutely} can't do this. this is absolutely diabolical behaviour. _ can't do this. this is absolutely diabolical behaviour. i'm - can't do this. this is absolutely} diabolical behaviour. i'm sorry, that_ diabolical behaviour. i'm sorry, that piers — diabolical behaviour. i'm sorry, that piers spouts off on a regular basis _ that piers spouts off on a regular basis and — that piers spouts off on a regular basis and we all have to sit there and listen — basis and we all have to sit there and listen-— basis and we all have to sit there and listen. �* , . , ., ., and listen. and dec! they have won 19 ears and listen. and dec! they have won 19 years in — and listen. and dec! they have won 19 years in a — and listen. and dec! they have won 19 years in a row. _ and listen. and dec! they have won 19 years in a row. -- _ and listen. and dec! they have won 19 years in a row. -- and _ and listen. and dec! they have won 19 years in a row. -- and zantac. i 19 years in a row. —— and zantac. they will win. —— and and and vicar of dibley? yes, it was onl on and vicar of dibley? yes, it was only on for— and vicar of dibley? yes, it was only on for less _ and vicar of dibley? yes, it was only on for less than _ and vicar of dibley? yes, it was only on for less than 30 - and vicar of dibley? yes, it was | only on for less than 30 minutes last year, it was a zoom special is on the run—up to christmas and that is going to get a nomination in that comedy, up against two netflix comedies, afterlife, sex education and applicants friday night dinner,
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which is very poignant after the death of one of the cast members, paul ritter. death of one of the cast members, paul ritter-— paul ritter. this has to be an especially — paul ritter. this has to be an especially bad _ paul ritter. this has to be an especially bad year, - paul ritter. this has to be an especially bad year, but - paul ritter. this has to be an especially bad year, but only| paul ritter. this has to be an i especially bad year, but only go paul ritter. this has to be an - especially bad year, but only go and maybe _ especially bad year, but only go and maybe there — especially bad year, but only go and maybe there will— especially bad year, but only go and maybe there will be _ especially bad year, but only go and maybe there will be some _ especially bad year, but only go and maybe there will be some changes. especially bad year, but only go and . maybe there will be some changes for the good _ maybe there will be some changes for the good the — maybe there will be some changes for the good. the world _ maybe there will be some changes for the good. the world is _ maybe there will be some changes for the good. the world is always- the good. the world is always changing _ the good. the world is always changing. when— the good. the world is always changing. when i— the good. the world is always changing. when i first - the good. the world is always changing. when i first got - the good. the world is always| changing. when i first got this the good. the world is always- changing. when i first got thisjob, women _ changing. when i first got thisjob, women vicars — changing. when i first got thisjob, women vicars were _ changing. when i first got thisjob, women vicars were considered - changing. when i first got thisjob, . women vicars were considered freaks and how— women vicars were considered freaks and how we _ women vicars were considered freaks and how we are — women vicars were considered freaks and now we are like _ women vicars were considered freaks and now we are like salted _ women vicars were considered freaks and now we are like salted caramel, i and now we are like salted caramel, where _ and now we are like salted caramel, where everywhere, _ and now we are like salted caramel, where everywhere, and _ and now we are like salted caramel, where everywhere, and absolutely l where everywhere, and absolutely delicious — where everywhere, and absolutely delicious. the _ where everywhere, and absolutely delicious. . , w' delicious. the thing which struck me about the last _ delicious. the thing which struck me about the last five _ delicious. the thing which struck me about the last five minutes - delicious. the thing which struck me about the last five minutes of - about the last five minutes of conversation, i have watched a lot of tele over the last year because everything you have mentioned,... everyone has. everything you have mentioned,... everyone hae— everyone has. those months of lockdown. _ everyone has. those months of lockdown, we _ everyone has. those months of lockdown, we have _ everyone has. those months of lockdown, we have turned - everyone has. those months of lockdown, we have turned to i everyone has. those months of. lockdown, we have turned to the everyone has. those months of - lockdown, we have turned to the tv. and a lot of those shows people have been watching have been represented. an interesting one which is missing is i may destroy you, nominated at the baftas, is i may destroy you, nominated at the baftas, not nominated at all the ntas. it has a lot of repeat
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winners, emma dale, strictly come dancing and this morning 11 for many years. it will be interesting to see if anything will be shaken up. it
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines. kabul airport reopens following a day of desperation and chaos in which thousands tried to flee afghanistan after the taliban took control of the capital. the scenes at the airport have been highlighted by newly released satellite pictures showing people swarming onto the runway. us presidentjoe biden defends his decision to withdraw troops from afghanistan, saying the mission was counter—terrorism, not nation—building. i stand squarely behind my decisions. after 20 years, i've learned the hard way that there was never a good time to withdraw. here in the uk, the foreign secretary says the government is looking at a bespoke resettlement
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scheme for vulnerable afghans

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