good morning, welcome to breakfast withjon kay and mega munchetty. our headlines today. on the ground in kabul. afghanistan adjusts to life under the taliban. here, more criticism of the foreign secretary dominic raab, as the government's strategy in afghanistan is condemned from all sides of parliament. like many veterans, this last week has been one that has seen me struggle through anger and grief. president biden says us troops could remain in afghanistan beyond the end of august, passing his deadline for withdrawal. the battle for morrisons. three firms are vying to takeover the bradford—based to take

over the bradford—based supermarket — a new higher bid is expected in the next few hours. so who wants it — and why? i'll look at the details. the drama continues with harry kane after he's left out of tottenham's squad again. the england captain hasn't travelled to portugalfor spurs�* european match tonight, as speculation continues about his future. today, there will be cloud around but we also have sunshine. the cloud thick enough — but we also have sunshine. the cloud thick enough for _ but we also have sunshine. the cloud thick enough for rain _ but we also have sunshine. the cloud thick enough for rain or— but we also have sunshine. the cloud thick enough for rain or drizzle. - but we also have sunshine. the cloud thick enough for rain or drizzle. we . thick enough for rain or drizzle. we also have another band of rain moving eastwards across england and wales. all the details in about half an hour. it's thursday, 19th august. our top story. there have been more chaotic scenes outside of kabul airport overnight, as the rush to leave afghanistan continues following the taliban takeover. governments around the world have

been working to evacuate their citizens and afghan refugees. meanwhile, for those still in the country, the reality of life under taliban rule is becoming clearer, as sercunder kermani reports. outside the airport, chaos continues. thousands are still desperate to leave the country. here, a girl terrified. "the taliban are coming for me," she cries. this family has been camped outside here for five days. "the situation here is very bad," she says. "no one wants to live here. everyone wants to live in peace and to be able to study. we want to go anywhere that is safe." despite assurances from the taliban that anyone linked to the government will be given an amnesty, many here are deeply fearful for their future and that is why we are still seeing these chaotic scenes at the airport.

no one is clear yet what comes next. but political discussions have begun. this was the arrival of a deputy leader of the taliban in kandahar, their spiritual home. whilst this is a member of the notorious haqqani family, deeply entrenched in the taliban's leadership, meeting with former president hamid karzai and other senior afghan politicians. in a speech tonight from the gulf, the former president ashraf ghani said he supported the efforts and hoped to return to the country. that seems unlikely. in the centre of kabul, early signs of everyday life is beginning to resume. heavily armed taliban patrols are all around. but shops and streets are busier than they have been since the takeover. "it is not the same as before," says this man, "people are scared.

but it's better than the past few days at least." there are far fewer women out and about than before and they are dressed more conservatively, though not in the all—encompassing burqa. many major businesses have sent female employees home, unsure whether the taliban will allow them to work. but there have been signs of defiance. this is a protest in support of the afghan flag, replaced in some areas by the taliban's. a number of demonstrators were reportedly shot dead injalalabad, whilst this was another rally in eastern afghanistan. look at the huge taliban convoy that is speeding towards it. the taliban have been making conciliatory noises in public, but many fear they will not tolerate any challenges to their authority. labour has accused the foreign secretary, dominic raab,

of a dereliction of duty over his handling of the crisis. it's after a report that he declined to phone his afghan counterpart to seek help airlifting interpreters out of afghanistan. we're joined now by our political correspondent chris mason. this is the latest question facing the prime minister and now also his foreign secretary. this the prime minister and now also his foreign secretary.— foreign secretary. this is the front .a . e foreign secretary. this is the front -a~e of foreign secretary. this is the front page of the — foreign secretary. this is the front page of the daily _ foreign secretary. this is the front page of the daily mail _ foreign secretary. this is the front page of the daily mail which - foreign secretary. this is the front page of the daily mail which has i foreign secretary. this is the front | page of the daily mail which has the scoop on this particular story. in many ways it is symptomatic of challenges the government is facing in the round. in short, as is clear to anyone looking at this, the government here and in america caught completely on the hop by the speed of events in afghanistan in the past week. dominic raab was on holiday in crete. yes, it is august

and ministers go on holiday, but clearly someone in the foreign office is less than entirely happy at the workrate of the foreign secretary because the daily mail discovered whilst he was there, officials in the foreign office were asking him to call the now former afghan foreign minister to talk about the whole business of interpreters who had worked for the british army and needed to leave if the taliban took control of kabul and a couple of days later, that is precisely what happened. did dominic raab pick up the phone to this minister? he did not. the foreign office said he was on the phone with other people, he was notjust on the beach. he was working from his hotel room. but this particular call, which officials said it was important he made rather than a junior minister made, he did not, it was delegated to a junior minister and the call did not happen because

his afghan opposite number wanted to speak to someone of the same rank, in other words to the foreign secretary. in other words to the foreign secretary-— in other words to the foreign secretary. in other words to the foreign secreta . ~ , , ., ~ ., ., secretary. we will speak later about this and possible _ secretary. we will speak later about this and possible implications - secretary. we will speak later about this and possible implications about| this and possible implications about this. president biden has said troops would stay beyond his august 31st withdrawal deadline, if more time is needed to get all american citizens out of afghanistan. in an interview with abc news, the us president once again defended the decision to withdraw us troops, insisting there wasn't a way for them to leave "without chaos ensuing". americans should understand the troops might have to be i there beyond august the 31st? no, americans will understand that we are going to try to get it done before august the 31st. that we are going to try to get it but if we don't, - the troops will stay? if we don't, we will determine at the time who is left. and if there are american forc... if there are american citizens left, we are going to stay until we get them all out. the largest survey of covid infection in the uk has found that

both the pfizer and astrazeneca vaccines are still offering good protection against the delta variant. the research, led by oxford university suggests that while the pfizerjab works best initially, both are equally as effective in the long term. our health correspondent, naomi grimley reports. for months, the office for national statistics, in partnership with oxford university, has been asking hundreds of thousands of us to do swabs for their research. unlike other studies, which have looked at how effective vaccines are at keeping people out of hospital, this one has looked this one has looked at how good they are preventing any infection with the delta variant. to begin with, the effectiveness of the pfizerjab appears to be better than the oxford astrazeneca one, but, after 4—5 months, pfizer's effectiveness seems to decline faster. what we have found is that effectiveness was initially higher ia days after the second dose

of pfizer compared to astrazeneca. for example, 93% against symptomatic infections for pfizer and 71% for astrazeneca. however, overtime, the effectiveness declines faster with pfizer than for astrazeneca. the more sobering news is that when infections do occur, double vaccinated people have the same levels of virus in their nose and throat as those who have not beenjabbed. the researchers say this shows the potential for these people to pass on the disease, even if they are protected against serious illness. the trial of american r&b singer r kelly has begun in new york. the 54—year—old is charged with sexual abuse, kidnapping and bribery — charges he denies. if found guilty, he could face between ten years and life in prison. samira hussain has the story. for r kelly's many accusers, this federal court in brooklyn

is where finally their voices may be heard. jonjelyn savage is here. for years, she has been pushing for charges against kelly. she says her daughter had been held captive by the musician. this will open some people's eyes. what we have known for the last five and a half years when we started this journey, because we knew something wasn't right and we knew that it had to stop. in those opening statements, prosecutors said kelly targeted, groomed and exploited young girls and boys for his own satisfaction. that this case was not about a celebrity who liked to party, but a sexual predator. in his defence, kelly's lawyer argued that he was the victim — the women were liars who misrepresented their ages and benefited from his fame and money. it is a spectacular fall from grace for one of the most successful artists of all time. once referred to as the king of r&b, if kelly is convicted on all counts, he faces ten years

to life in prison. allegations of sexual abuse are not new for kelly, but the only time he has previously faced criminal charges, back in 2008, he was acquitted. several of r kelly's alleged victims are expected to testify against him. unlike his previous trial back in 2008. and these charges are more serious, and it comes at a time in which the culture has changed. the me too movement has made it much harder for rich, famous abusers to hide their misdeeds. inquests into the deaths of plymouth gunmanjake davison and his five victims will be opened today — a week after the mass shooting. meanwhile, a firework display took place in the town last night in tribute to maxine davison, sophie martyn, lee martyn, stephen washington and kate shepherd, who were all killed in last week's attack. the display was part of

the british fireworks championships, which went ahead in memory of the victims, after talks with the council and residents. there is talk about morrisons today. it has been awhile since we have seen this activity in the retail supermarket sector. a big—money battle. fascinating when you get big firms vying for maybe a smaller firm so it could be fascinating in the next 24—hour is. it could determine the future of our fourth largest supermarket. as one commentator put it, you wait more than a century for a takeover bid and then three arrive all at once. so what's going on? well, back injune, morrisons turned down a 5.5 billion pound offer from an american finance company called clayton, dubilier & rice.

they used to own b&m bargains. they also run a number of petrol stations here in the uk and are getting advice on their takeover plans from the former boss of tesco's. that sparked a bidding war and last month anotherfinance group entered the fray. it offered more than six billion pounds. fortress — as it's known — runs majestic wine. that bid was accepted and it looked like a done deal, if shareholders agreed. then — another potential buyer — apollo — joined the battle. that prompted fortress to raise their offer again. so all eyes are now back on the original bidder to see if they up their bid too. it's all a far cry from morrisons' very humble beginnings. here's where it all began. a market stall in bradford in 1899, selling eggs and butter. it was run by a mr william morrison. and that one stall grew to many.

but it wasn't until much later that the first supermarket opened under the morrisons name to become the store we recognise today. in 2004, the group bought rival safeway for £3 billion. it gave morrisons, largely based in the north of england, a bigger slice of the market in the south. the merger wasn't an easy marriage. butjoining forces made morrisons the uk's fourth largest supermarket. for more than half a century, morrisons was run by this man, ken morrison, son of the store's original founder. and his approach to retail was simple. what we're trying to do here is recreate the atmosphere in a market, which really is a little touch of nostalgia, where you can choose your fish, you can look at it. just like fish markets used to be in the old days. but ultimately, for him, it all came down to price. you want to know what a bogof is, well, i'll tell you.

it's buy one, get one free. greatly appreciated by all the shopping public. here we go. twice the quantity, same price. and the despite the death of sir ken in 2017, at the age of 85, morrisons has become a jewel in the crown of british retail. you might wonder, though, quite what he'd make of all the fuss. so what's sparked this sudden bidding war? morrisons like other supermarkets , has been counting the cost of the pandemic. in march it announced that profits had halved. morrisons is also very different from other supermarkets as it owns a lot of its suppliers, factories, farms and the stores themselves. that's particularly attractive to investment firms — like the ones bidding for morrisons — because they can sell many of these off to raise cash and then rent them back. the company employs more than 100,000 staff and unions

are quite worried about what any takeover could mean for them. there's always nervousness about deals like this. both the bidders are currently trying to convince the bosses and shareholders that they would be best suited to take on the morrisons we will find out soon if the money on offer will go up, if not shareholders will vote on the latest bid. we could see some last—minute technical stuff going on, last—minute battles to get control of what is the uk's fourth largest supermarket. we will keep you posted. i do like a bidding war. always interesting because they will have to lay out their plans and decide what they would do with the firm and how they would make money. they are trying to convince shareholders they would be the best custodians of the firm. custodians, yes. let's take a look at today's papers.

most of the front pages lead on the situation in afghanistan. "parliament holds the president in contempt" is the headline in the daily telegraph. the paper says president biden was accused of "throwing us and everybody else to the fire" by pulling us troops out of afghanistan. the guardian focuses on the criticism of prime minister borisjohnson, who the paper says faced a "wall of fury from all wings of the conservative party" over the uk's conduct in afghanistan. the metro's front page accuses the prime minister and the foreign secretary of being "asleep at the wheel" and failing to predict the speed of the taliban's surge. meanwhile, the huffington post is urging its readers to watch mp tom tugendhat�*s emotional speech in the house of commons yesterday. the chairman of the foreign affairs

committee, who served in afghanistan as a soldier, spoke about his struggle through "anger and grief and rage" after hearing the news of the taliban take—over this week. very powerful, that speech. eight minutes long. do you want me to go with this? if you were to compare yourself to an insect, which would it be? i would like to be a stick insect, slimline. we all have ambitions. it is only 6:15am! we are being compared, orfruit flies are compared to us. scientists have fruit flies and taken a look at their sleep and feeding behaviour and found they are sociable creatures, because what they have tried to find out is the link between loneliness and insomnia in

humans. fruit flies mimic the behaviour of us when we have lived in pandemic conditions, isolation. they isolated them and put them through lockdown conditions and found when a fly was isolated, it was eating more and slept less. it identified genes connected to this that would help people in terms of lowliness, sleep deprivation, eating patterns. there has been a problem with weight gain, particularly in the us, through the pandemic. they like company. buzzing around. stinging. this will cause stinging. the road outside bournemouth. we have seen trouble recently about drivers and cyclists

getting annoyed with each other. motorists here are annoyed the cyclists now have a cycle lane more than 11 feet wide but the road itself only nine wide. they are looking across at the space. a clever picture of the single cyclists. it probably gets busier than that. but it shows the conflict and challenge for councils in trying to accommodate both camps. when drivers complain about cycle lanes, when you go on the cycle lanes, when you go on the cycle lanes, there are so many potholes, there is a reason why they need to be wider. everyone is upset with potholes. they need to be wider because you spend time avoiding potholes. you should give a decent amount of room to the cyclists. i am not saying the balance is right there but it needs to be considered. we are also encouraged to cycle more and not use the car. the ideal

picture of lots of cyclists on there. some overtake each other. i am in the slow lane. that is two kilometres of a 27 kilometre route. we love this job. never boring. if you did have a boring job it could lead to the onset of dementia. this scientists from university college london found those with mentally stimulating and demanding careers are one third less likely to suffer age—related memory loss and have low levels of damaging proteins in the brain linked to dementia. you enjoy coming in here. it does you good. get the mind going. keeps the going. eeps th e grey going. keeps the grey matter ticking over. beautiful pictures here from bristol zoo. a baby gorilla rejected at birth has been taken on by

zookeepers and now has a stepmother. very cute. beautiful when they are older, also. a group of gurkha veterans are now on day 12 of their hunger strike outside downing street, as part of a campaign for equal pension rights. gurkhas who retired before 1997 are not eligible for a uk armed forces pension. to force a change, the protestors say they're the protesters say they're willing to starve to death. our correspondent lebo diseko has been with them. they have served in the british army for more than 200 years, fighting side by side with soldiers born here in the uk. it is equal work with equal danger, but, for years, many gurkhas say they have had to struggle for equal treatment. it took a high—profile campaign, headed by the actressjoanna lumley, for most gurkhas to be allowed to settle in the uk. they won that fight in 2009. today a great injustice has been righted.

we will not be looking behind us. we are paying tribute to the future and, for the people of great britain, what could be greater then to be able to open our arms and say the gurkhas are coming! now, another for equal pensions. these three hunger strikers say they are willing to starve themselves to death in order to achieve it. they have gone almost two weeks without food and it is beginning to take its toll. dhan gurung, a diabetic, was rushed to hospital earlier this week, such were the concerns for his health. and although he is back in front of downing street, his wife fears for what could come next. we are very worried. he is very weak. that is why, please, i can't lose my husband. please save him. please. i cannot lose my husband.

he served as a corporal in the army for 15 years, but, like all gurkhas who retired before 1997, his pension isjust a fraction of what british—born members of the army get. these protesters say that is unfair and they want borisjohnson to do something about it. yesterday, around 100 supporters marched to parliament to make the point. they want the british and nepalese governments to set a date for high level talks about the veterans' plight. only then will they be willing to postpone the hunger strike, and they are willing to do whatever it takes to get there. behind this hunger strike is if somebody dies, then there will be another person coming to take his place. that is going to be very sad. it is a very extreme action. and it is their decision to do this. and we have been forced, or rather they have been forced, to take this extreme action, because nobody is prepared to listen. a spokesperson for the ministry of defence said the uk government is committed to providing gurkhas

a fair pension, including uplifts determined by formal review processes. and they say they are consulting with gurkha veteran groups and the government of nepal with more meetings scheduled next month. but there is little trust here at the protest opposite downing street in government efforts. instead, a quiet anger and determination to try to right what these veterans see as historical wrongs. still to come, after the prime ministerfaced a barrage of criticism from mps over the uk's role in afghanistan yesterday, we'll speak to the defence secretary ben wallace at 7.30 this morning. we'll talk about the situation with the gurkhas in whitehall. we'll have that shortly.

we can talk to carol. you look springlike. hopefully we will get warmer weather at the weekend. at the moment it is art. we have a bit of everything going on at the moment. if you are travelling this morning there is fog across west wales, devon and cornwall, around the hills and coasts. like the last few days, there will be cloud around, thick enough for light rain and drizzle. sunshine in the forecast as well. sunshine across parts of southern scotland, the midlands, northern england. it is being pushed eastwards by a weak weather front introducing showers. behind the weather front a return to sunny skies but that will spark showers as well across parts of england and wales. northern ireland,

scotland, some sunshine at times. but there will be areas of cloud with showers. temperatures 13—21. yesterday, bridlington got into the mid 20s. we do not expect anything like that today. this evening and overnight hanging on to showers. there will be a lot of cloud. by the end of the night, another weather front about to get into northern ireland. not a cold night. tomorrow, we have two weather fronts. the first pushing north—eastwards bringing rain and the second bringing rain and the second bringing rain and the second bringing rain across northern ireland. many will start with mist and fog patches but also some sunshine first thing in the morning. cloud. thick enough for light rain and drizzle. the front takes the

rain with it. and then another bringing rain into northern ireland. temperatures 13—23. the breeze is picking up across western areas. from friday into saturday, a clutch of weather fronts and this one moving through northern ireland continuing eastwards. ahead of it, we are pulling up warmer air from the continent particularly across central and eastern parts of england. this weekend is looking warmer, but also it will be wet. we have the weather fronts too. after a dry and sunny start in some eastern areas, rain moving in from the west and it is moving faster than we thought yesterday so it will get into eastern areas quicker than we thought. we have rain across parts of scotland. temperatures ranging from 1a in the north, 2a in the south. more details later in the

programme. hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and naga munchetty. coming up on breakfast this morning. as tributes are paid to the comedian sean lock, we speak to his friends and colleagues, bill bailey and dave spikey. nick knowles is back, but this time he's working on clearing out homes, rather than building them. he'lljoin us later to talk about his new programme and give us his top de—cluttering tips. are you clutter free? no. and he's the world—renowned fashion designer that hasn't forgotten his roots. as an exhibition celebrates his career, sir paul smith returns to nottingham, more than 50 years after opening his first shop in the town. we'll have more in the next half hour. councils across england

are preparing to house up to 20,000 afghan refugees over the next few years, following the taliban's takeover. more than 200 afghan nationals have already resettled in the uk in the last decade. our reporter luxmy gopal has been to meet some of them, to hear their experiences. images capturing the desperation to leave afghanistan. watching the news footage of afghans trying to flee were those who have some idea of what they are hoping to escape from. the first time the taliban came to afghanistan, they forced people, for example, praying, dressing, everything. patrees's wife zura and her sisters had a difficult life after her mother was widowed. living under taliban rule in the late 90s with restricted rights for women. we were not able to go to school

and when you were going outside, there should be a man with you. zura and patrees moved to the uk with their two children just under a decade ago. i'm secure here, and safe here because in afghanistan, when you wanted to go to office, you are not sure if you would reach the office alive. because there were many suicide attacks and the situation was really bad. can you remember what it was like adjusting when you arrived here? i didn't really understand the - language, and it took me a while. i was a bit naughty at school- because when they talked nicely i thought they were shouting. adjusting to a new life brought challenges for the adults as well. despite having high positions and salaries working at international organisations in afghanistan, all zuhra and patrees could get in the uk were part time jobs in a shop or volunteering. i was thinking that when i go there,

because i already have education and qualifications, it will be easy for me to find a job. unfortunately when i applied for severaljobs, they say, you don't have the experience of working here. when there was a cleaning job, they were asking me, would you like to apply for thatjob? and they know my background and everything. so it was hurting you. for hameeda hassani, current developments in afghanistan bringing back difficult memories of her own childhood there, until her father moved to the uk in early 2000 as an asylum seeker. i don't remember much about what happened at that time, but all i know is that my father wasn't safe there and he had to escape. she arrived in the country as a 13—year—old who couldn't speak english. it was a bit difficult at the start, especially being a muslim girl and going to school, not knowing the language, the culture, the environment. i think i did face a lot of challenges in terms of bullies calling me names, and, "go back to your country". the opportunity ofjust going to school was a big thing for me.

so there was nothing to stop me. she studied law at university and is now working at a solicitors, training to be a lawyer. zuhra and patrees have started again with training as well. she is in herfinal year of a nursing degree, and he's training to be a health assistant. and their children are very much settled. what's your advice to other children coming here from afghanistan to help them adjust in the future? don't be, don't be scared to ask questions if you don't understand something. his family, there is no one to take care of them at the moment. now their attention has turned to patrees's father, disabled and still in afghanistan. one of the many people wanting to get out of the country. the uk government has pledged to resettle 5000 afghan refugees here in the first year. tim is from a charity that helps refugees with issues they face when they arrive. how to orient themselves

in the local area, how to get their children settled into school, how to start thinking about getting work, developing their language skills and processing the trauma of being in exile. he welcomes the government's response but says more is needed. the ideal response from the government is a resettlement programme of about 20,000 across two years, 10,000 in each year, plus some kind of additional evacuation programme that simply temporarily brings people to safety. without necessarily putting them on a full resettlement programme. driven from their motherland years ago, these families now watch others face the same fate. luxmy gopal, bbc news. lancaster city council is one one authority pledging to house refugees. let's speak to their leader, caroline jackson. good morning. morning. really interesting. _ good morning. morning. really interesting, seeing _ good morning. morning. really interesting, seeing how-

good morning. morning. really i interesting, seeing how refugees good morning. morning. really interesting, seeing how refugees can settle in, and adapt and build a life here in this country. how many are you in a position to accept, or is lancaster city council in a position to accept?- is lancaster city council in a position to accept? when we first heard that we _ position to accept? when we first heard that we would _ position to accept? when we first heard that we would possibly - position to accept? when we first heard that we would possibly get| heard that we would possibly get some refugees, we volunteered to get five. we already have quite a large number of asylum seekers and refugees in lancaster as part of past schemes and government schemes. we possibly would take more but at the moment the difficulty is trying to find housing for them.- to find housing for them. where would they _ to find housing for them. where would they go. _ to find housing for them. where would they go, then, _ to find housing for them. where would they go, then, what's - to find housing for them. where would they go, then, what's the process when they arrive? i’m process when they arrive? i'm actually trustee _ process when they arrive? i'm actually trustee of _ process when they arrive? i“n actually trustee of a charity that helps once they arrive to find them somewhere to live, and then to settle in, to get language skills if they need. actually, a lot of these are interpreters so their english is perfect and in fact, the one person

from afghanistan that we've already got, the interpreter, i have met him and he is definitely a really good english speaker already. you mention the infrastructure, _ english speaker already. you mention the infrastructure, where _ english speaker already. you mention the infrastructure, where to _ english speaker already. you mention the infrastructure, where to house - the infrastructure, where to house them. what other problems, where do they go, where are they housed? taste they go, where are they housed? we as a they go, where are they housed? - as a council are looking to find rentable property, the ordinary rentable property, the ordinary rentable properties, two, three, four bedroom properties to take in families. the problem is because of the staycation problem at the moment, we have morecambe in our area, there is does nothing around in rentable properties. i do think other councils are finding the same problem. people are being very generous and taking an interest in the situation.— generous and taking an interest in the situation. what's the timeframe for when housing _ the situation. what's the timeframe for when housing is _ the situation. what's the timeframe for when housing is provided? - the situation. what's the timeframe for when housing is provided? i - for when housing is provided? i mean, we would, as soon as we would

find a house, we will take somebody on the scheme from afghanistan. i think it's a couple of weeks, as soon as we can say we have got space, it will be two weeks until somebody comes. find space, it will be two weeks until somebody comes.— space, it will be two weeks until somebody comes. space, it will be two weeks until somebod comes. �* ., ., , somebody comes. and how longer they remain in that — somebody comes. and how longer they remain in that property? _ somebody comes. and how longer they remain in that property? the _ remain in that property? the government _ remain in that property? the government is _ remain in that property? iie: government is guaranteeing remain in that property? tie: government is guaranteeing the remain in that property? ti2 government is guaranteeing the rent, i think it is for two years. but in that time, most refugees and asylum seekers do find themselves work, they find themselves somewhere to go. or they stay on in that property because they are renting. once they're because they are renting. once they�* re settled because they are renting. once they're settled in, generally, there are no problems about refugees, at least in lancaster, we find that they fit in quickly and become part of our local communities. fine they fit in quickly and become part of our local communities.- they fit in quickly and become part of our local communities. one of the thins we of our local communities. one of the things we had _ of our local communities. one of the things we had in _ of our local communities. one of the things we had in that _ of our local communities. one of the things we had in that report - of our local communities. one of the things we had in that report that - things we had in that report that was being able to find jobs, being able to use transferable skills from home, often highly qualified people

whose qualifications don't match here. how do you help that balance, in order to get employment and build a career, build a home, and a life, with theirfamilies? a career, build a home, and a life, with their families? that a career, build a home, and a life, with their families?— with their families? that is difficult. — with their families? that is difficult, we _ with their families? that is difficult, we have - with their families? that is difficult, we have other - with their families? that is - difficult, we have other afghanistan refugees, one in particular with a very high level of skills. basically they do have to work up and get local experience. my experience of our refugee and asylum seeker community is that they are very determined and they get that experience and move on. but it's not a quick process for them. and obviously trying to find accreditation for the skills they have already got is often quite difficult. 50 have already got is often quite difficult. ., , , ., difficult. so what help is on offer in that sense? _ difficult. so what help is on offer in that sense? in _ difficult. so what help is on offer in that sense? in lancaster, - difficult. so what help is on offer in that sense? in lancaster, a i difficult. so what help is on offer| in that sense? in lancaster, a lot ofthe in that sense? in lancaster, a lot of the help _ in that sense? in lancaster, a lot of the help is _ in that sense? in lancaster, a lot of the help is through _ in that sense? in lancaster, a lot of the help is through volunteer i of the help is through volunteer services, especially in terms of city of sanctuary, we are a city of sanctuary and that gives opportunity to give help with language skills,

it's about integration into the community and making sure people have what they need in order to be part of our community. but i have to say, they often provide a very interesting part of our community, and particularly we enjoy some of their artistic skills and their skills with providing food. so it's always interesting, and it's interesting the way that asylum seekers and refugees really actually, they so much want to be part of our community that they give a lot back as soon as they arrive. caroline jackson, leader of lancaster city council, thank you for your time with us.— lancaster city council, thank you for your time with us. thank you. it's for your time with us. thank you. it's coming _ for your time with us. thank you. it's coming up — for your time with us. thank you. it's coming up to _ for your time with us. thank you. it's coming up to 20 _ for your time with us. thank you. it's coming up to 20 to _ for your time with us. thank you. it's coming up to 20 to seven. i for your time with us. thank you. i it's coming up to 20 to seven. let's talk harry kane come again. the transfer window closes on the sist the transfer window closes on the 31st of august? will he still be at

his boyhood club by then? he didn't even feature on the bench in the first match against manchester city, the club he linked with, and it looks like he will not be playing tonight either. the saga continues about where harry kane will play his football. the england captain won't feature for tottenham tonight in their europa conference league play—off first leg against pacos de ferreira. the england striker, who reportedly wants to leave the club, hasn't flown to portugal with the rest of the squad. it's thought kane is still working on his fitness and manager nuno espirito santo says he can't confirm whether he will be ready for their league game against wolves on saturday. what's happening behind the doors is harry is our player, he's preparing himself, he trained today and he's going to train tomorrow and again on friday. joining the group. and this is how we operate. we don't, we don't really pay much attention to what's being said outside regarding the situation. harry is our player, he's one of the best players in the world and we are very lucky to have him.

chelsea already have their big—money signing in romelu lukaku. he re—joined the club last week and promises to live up to his hefty 97.5 million pound price tag. lukaku says he's looking forward to life back in the premier league after winning the italian title last season at inter milan. it's good to be back, obviously, you fight as a footballer, you fight to achieve your dreams. i'm here now, and i can't wait to be on the pitch and perform with my team—mates. it was a busy night for celtic supporters last night with both their men's and women's teams in european action. the men's team had a great night in glasgow as they beat dutch side az alkmaar 2—0 in the first leg of their europa league play—off. not so good for the women's side though. they've been knocked out in the first qualifying round of the champions league. they were beaten 2—1 by spanish side levante, despite that goal from caitlin hayes.

andy murray is out of the cincinnati masters after losing to ninth seed hubert hurkacz. it was the first meeting on the tour between the two players, with two—time champion murray beaten in straight sets by the 24—year—old pole. british number two heather watson is also out. she lost to world number one ashleigh barty in straight sets. it was the australian's first match since losing in the first round at the tokyo olympics and she needed a tie—break to beat watson. england have made changes ahead of their third test against india next week. it comes off the back of their disappointing defeat at lord's, which left them 1—0 down in the series. yorkshire batsman dawid malan has been recalled to the squad. he's been a mainstay of the t20 side, but played the last of his 15 tests in august 2018. meanwhile dom sibley has been dropped. his highest score in four innings against india in the current series was 28.

zak crawley also drops out of the 15 man squad. meanwhile, there was another double—header in the hundred with the london spirit taking on the welsh fire. in the women's match the spirit won by seven wickets. england captain heather knight sealed it with this four. but they were unable to secure a spot in the knockout stage, while fire finished bottom of the table. in the men's match the welsh fire won by three wickets. and within the last few minutes the first tee shots have been hit on the opening day of the women's open. it's the final golf major of the year and it'll be an extra special one for the winner at carnoustie. an increase in prize money sees it become the most lucrative championship on the women's calendar. 2018 champion georgia hall says she can't wait to get started. i mean, it's incredibly special to me, winning three years ago. and this time, to win it again would be incredible and it's still my favourite event of the year. yeah, i mean, i don't

want to think about that, i'm thinking about tomorrow first. but obviously to be crowned champion again would be amazing and that's definitely one of my goals. looking forward to watching her and mel reid as well as that. and it might be the last major. and it might be the last ma'or. yes, the europeansfi and it might be the last ma'or. yes, the europeans and h and it might be the last major. i2: the europeans and americans have to impress and there is prize money to compete for as well. it's important that we catch up with what is happening in haiti because the world? attention has been in afghanistan, understandingly. five days after a devastating earthquake hit haiti rural areas are still lacking emergency support and supplies.

at least 2,000 people have died and 10,000 more have been injured — the search for survivors has been hampered by heavy rains, as james clayton reports. as you head out from the city of les cayes to the rural areas, the road is marked by landslides and deep cracks. this village is remote, and the scale of the damage catastrophic. rose—marie took me to her house. her 15—year—old son was charging his phone when the quake hit. the wall collapsed on him. translation: these are his books. he had recently got them so he could start a new year of school. and now, he's gone. i wrap his shirt around my waist. it keeps me strong. when you come to these rural areas, the level of destruction just ups a notch. almost every single house here is completely destroyed. five people were killed in this house alone.

and to understand why, you have to look at the cement and rock that these houses are built from. it's really hard to lift this. it's really heavy, and of course, when those kinds of walls fall down, they can cause catastrophic injuries. with no sign of aid or help, many people are living on top of the rubble of what was their homes. "do we have to scream for the government to hear us?" this woman says. "or is life over?" the people of haiti feel like they've been forgotten. and in many ways, they have. james clayton, bbc news. our teams on the ground there will keep it across what is happening in haiti. this summer, thousands of tourists flocked to hotspots across the uk, often renting short—term holiday lets. but, concerns have been raised about the amount of homes that then

sit empty for the majority of the year with one mp labelling it a "housing emergency". our reporter matt graveling is in windermere for us this morning. good morning. normally i'm quite jealous of you guys on that comfy sofa, but today, what a view to sip my morning cup of coffee. this is windermere in the lake district, what an incredible sight. but this view does not come cheap. lots of people come here and buy second homes. what does this mean that the local communities who are trying to get on the property ladder, or possibly even trying to rent? i spent the last day meeting some of them. come on, come on. it's notjust humans who enjoy a little time in the country. it's an amazing job, and i tell you what, i wouldn't do anything else. i absolutely love it. but for dog walker brian, this

peaceful paradise comes at a cost. the price of properties have almost trebled in the last five years. i'm in a bit of a struggle at the moment with having to come back to live with my parents due to being priced out of properties. affordable houses in brian's hometown of keswick are scarce. nearly half are now holiday lets or second homes. elsewhere, over in wales, authorities in the county of gwyneth have introduced a 100% council tax boost on properties that are not initial properties. we boost on properties that are not initial properties.— initial properties. we feel discriminated _ initial properties. we feel discriminated against, . initial properties. we feel. discriminated against, there initial properties. we feel- discriminated against, there are issues more important than this. to sort of say, you are in an identical

have to somebody next door but you are having to pay 200% council tax, 300%, is discrimination. back in the lakes, and i spoke to local mp tim farron. he's launched a petition asking the government to change planning laws to give local authorities more powers to control the number of second homes and holiday lets. talking to a couple, just a few weeks ago, who paid £650 a month for a small flat above a shop in lovely ambleside. their children go to the local school, they both work in the hospitality industry. and they were served notice to quit, they have quit and they discover that that small two bedroom flat above a shop is now on the market for £1000 a week as a holiday let. jeanette has lived in the lakes for 58 years. long serving secretary of the ambleside rugby club, she says, as the people leave, so do local amenities and teams. we did have a period of three years

where we didn't play at all, because we didn't have a team. because we've got so many people now living in the area, who are not local, they haven't got the interest. you can see lake windermere behind me. you will be back with us throughout the morning and this marina is going to be teeming with people and little bit later on. it's notjust paddle boarding and canoeing and kayaking and boat hire going on here, we are here at the boardwalk bar and grill and the manager lives in one of those boats just over there. he says it's very nice but he could not afford any houses here in the lake district. but that is the problem. everybody i have been speaking to, they say they love tourism and they want tourism but they do need something for local people. tim farron, who you saw in my piece there, he tell me that in the last 12 months alone here,

holiday lets have gone up by 32%. so what is the balance, to try and find how we can enjoy this beautiful view but also support local communities? a little bit later, i will be talking to experts to see if there is a balance we can find in communities and people wanting to buy second homes. the government did descend as a statement on this saying, we have introduced a series of measures to help mitigate the adverse affect large numbers of second homes can have on some areas including high rate of stamp duty on second homes. so, join me back here in this beautiful location throughout the morning, we will be speaking to a few more local people and seeing if there is a balance we can find between local people and second homes. thank you very much indeed. it has a

ways been a conflict in those communities but it seems like even more so at the moment, the whole staycation boom has highlighted it. and how much people are contributing if they do own second properties. we will keep talking about it. just over half a century ago, fashion designer sir paul smith opened a small shop in nottingham, selling menswear. now, he's a globalfashion icon with more than 70 stores all over the world. despite his success, he's neverforgotten his roots, and as a new exhibition in nottingham castle celebrates his life and career, he popped in to pay it a visit. navtej johal reports. is it true you still don't have a computer in your home? i have no computer. no laptop or anything? no, no e—mail address. no e—mail address? no. what he does have, though, is a career spanning decades, a knighthood and a status as a local nottingham boy done very good. and now fashion designer sir paul smith is looking back

at how he went from a tiny store in the city to the world's most glamorous catwalks. who needs an e—mail address, eh? we all have good brains, we have good eyes, we can take inspiration from anything. this exhibition at nottingham castle celebrates his life and work through more than 1500 objects. the idea with the exhibition was always to make the exhibition helpful to young people that were starting out, not necessarily in fashion, but in any form of creative career. and to keep the exhibition very down to earth, very feet on the ground. what does it mean to you to have your exhibition here in nottingham at the castle? oh, i mean, fantastic, and it's very convenient because we could take all the things to my warehouse which is just down the road! inspiring the next generation is a big reason for this exhibition. and these local fashion students are currently getting a masterclass from the man himself. his work has been heralded throughout my time in university

as such a big inspiration and seeing the exhibition and where he gets his amazing ideas from, it was so exciting and satisfying. very good, yeah. he's such, like, a down—to—earth person, and really funny as well. j so it was nice to get that - one—on—one time with him, which, |you know, opportunity like thatj don't really come up that often. and an even younger generation, a local brownies group, were also given the chance to show off their work. yeah, i love that. the exhibition runs until february next year. although not everyone who visits is likely to have the chance to get a fashion icon to review their outfit. marks out of ten for my suit? oh, very good, you look great. and i love the tie, yeah. it's one of yours. oh, yeah! thank you very much, paul. same! cheers. thank you very much.

marks & spencer is, right? he loves his “ob? marks & spencer is, right? he loves his job? he — marks & spencer is, right? he loves his job? he loves _ marks & spencer is, right? he loves his job? he loves his _ marks & spencer is, right? he loves his job? he loves his job! _ marks & spencer is, right? he loves his job? he loves his job! we - marks & spencer is, right? he loves his job? he loves his job! we were l hisjob? he loves hisjob! we were talking about people earlier who do! that report there from navtej johal. tributes have been paid to the comedian sean lock, who has died from cancer at aged of 58. he was best known for appearing in some of the nations most well—loved comedy programmes such as "eight out of ten cats", "15 storeys high" and "have i got news for you", in a career spanning nearly 30 years. i get annoyed by pizza leaflets. you get eight a day or sometimes more. i should put them in the bin but everyone that comes, i go, no. it's like someone standing next to all day long, saying, you want a pizza? no, i don't want a pizza! i wouldn't mind if the photographs made them look tasty. but it looks like someone has cooked a kid? painting,

doesn't it? —— a kid? painting, it? -- a it? —— a kids painting. it? -- a kid's painting. he had a treat it? -- a kid's painting. he had a great way _ it? -- a kid's painting. he had a great way of _ it? -- a kid's painting. he had a great way of articulating - it? -- a kid's painting. he had a great way of articulating what i great way of articulating what everyone is thinking. 50 great way of articulating what everyone is thinking. so many of his collea . ues everyone is thinking. so many of his colleagues have _ everyone is thinking. so many of his colleagues have been _ everyone is thinking. so many of his colleagues have been paying - everyone is thinking. so many of his colleagues have been paying tribute j colleagues have been paying tribute to him. jimmy carr, who worked with him a lot, said... susie dent, who also worked on the programme said: when susie doesn't have a word, you know it is serious. comedian ricky gervais wrote...

and dawn french said... just before 8 this morning we will be joined by two fellow comedians and friends of sean — bill bailey and dave spikey to talk more about his life and career. and what made him so special a much loved by everyone. let's get the weather with carol. good morning. once again today is going to be fairly cloudy for many parts of the uk, you can see this lovely picture in dorset taken earlier this morning, fairly cloudy. mist and fog to watch out for in devon, cornwall, west wales and around the coasts and hills, quite murky. there are some isolated showers and also some patchy light rain and drizzle coming out of the thickest of the cloud. three weather fronts, one across the north of scotland producing some cloud and light rain, second one coming in from the west drifting east through

the day, and the third one in the atlantic is coming tonight. we start off with sunshine across southern scotland, northern england and the south—east, but as the weak weather front moves across from west to east, it will introduce showery rain. the north of scotland has some cloud but towards the west we will see some sunshine but still showers. northern ireland will have sunshine at times but still cloud. england and wales, we have a weather front crossing with the showery outbreaks of rain and behind it, a return to sunshine and showers. some of those could be heavy, possibly thundery. top temperatures today, 13 to 20 degrees. through this evening and overnight, we will hang on to some clear skies. we will also hang on to a few showers. by the end of the night, we can see the signs of that next batch of weather fronts coming our way, eventually getting into northern ireland. a cold night ——

not a cold night, ten to 15 degrees. tomorrow we start with dry weather, and then you can see the advancement of the weather fronts. the first is bringing some rain across northern ireland, pushing into south—west scotland and north—west england. the second coming in behind it will bring rain into northern ireland but there will still be some bright or sunny skies. it was not to feel humid. the breeze picking up in the west. saturday, the focus has changed slightly, we will start off with some sunshine in eastern england but the weather front coming in from the west is moving faster than we thought. so the rain will get into the london area faster than we thought, and there will be some heavy rain across scotland with showers getting in across northern ireland. the rain also affecting parts of wales. temperatures up to 23 but feeling humid, and it will feel humid by night and by day. on sunday, because the system is coming

in quicker, it will clear quicker, rain across the south—east to start but behind that it will brighten up. a few showers around but the exception rather than the rule. it will feel quite humid as well, temperatures ranging from 1a in the north to 21 as you push down to the south. stay with us, the headlines are next. good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and jon kay. our headlines today. on the ground in kabul. afghanistan adjusts

to life under the taliban. here, more criticism of the foreign secretary dominic raab, as the government's strategy in afghanistan is condemned from all sides of parliament. like many veterans, this last week has been one that has seen me struggle through anger and grief. president biden says us troops could remain in afghanistan beyond the end of august, passing his deadline for withdrawal. harry kane won't feature in tottenham's squad again as he continues to be linked with a move away. the england captain hasn't travelled to portugalfor spurs' european match tonight amid speculation about his future at the club. if at any point you are erring on the side of laughter, go with it, yeah? tributes to the comedian's

comedian sean lock, who's died at the age of 58. we'll hear from one of his best friends — bill bailey. it's thursday, 19th august. there have been more chaotic scenes outside of kabul airport overnight, as the rush to leave afghanistan continues. governments around the world have been working to evacuate their citizens and afghan refugees from the country. meanwhile, for those still there, the reality of life under taliban rule is becoming clearer, as sercunder kermani reports. outside the airport, chaos continues. thousands are still desperate to leave the country. here, a girl, terrified. "the taliban are coming for me," she cries. this family has been camped outside here for five days.

"the situation here is very bad," she says. "no one wants to live here. everyone wants to live in peace and to be able to study. we want to go anywhere that is safe." despite assurances from the taliban that anyone linked to the government will be given an amnesty, many here are deeply fearful for their future and that is why we are still seeing these chaotic scenes at the airport. no one is clear yet what comes next. but political discussions have begun. this was the arrival of a deputy leader of the taliban in kandahar, their spiritual home. whilst this is a member of the notorious haqqani family, deeply entrenched in the taliban's leadership, meeting with former president hamid karzai and other senior afghan politicians. in a speech tonight from the gulf, the former president ashraf ghani said he supported the efforts and hoped to return to the country. that seems unlikely.

in the centre of kabul, early signs everyday life is beginning to resume. heavily armed taliban patrols are all around. but shops and streets are busier than they have been since the takeover. "it is not the same as before," says this man, "people are scared. but it's better than the past few days at least." there are far fewer women out and about than before and they are dressed more conservatively, though not in the all—encompassing burqa. many major businesses have sent female employees home, unsure whether the taliban will allow them to work. but there have been signs of defiance. this is a protest in support of the afghan flag, replaced in some areas by the taliban's. a number of demonstrators were reportedly shot dead injalalabad, whilst this was another rally in eastern afghanistan.

look at the huge taliban convoy that is speeding towards it. the taliban have been making conciliatory noises in public, but many fear they will not tolerate any challenges to their authority. we can get the latest from our afghanistan correspondent, secunder kermani, whojoins us now from kabul. i understand in the last few minutes you have heard gunfire. ring is up—to—date. —— bring us up—to—date. we had a heavy burst of gunfire that seems to have gone quiet now. we are waiting details as to what happened but it was heavier than anything we have heard over the past 2a hours from our location. today is a holy day

for shia muslims and it could be related to that because there are crowds related to a festival taking place so potentially firing at the crowd, potentially attempts to disperse the crowd, we await those details. in the rest of the city, there are two different scenes. chaos continuing at the airport, where hundreds, thousands of people probably, have been camped out, trying to get inside, desperate to leave. many of them do not have the necessary documentation and it is unlikely they will be evacuated but they are willing to put up with these awful conditions. taliban members firing into the air, trying to control the crowd, using sticks and whips to try to push people back. elsewhere in the city, aside from this burst of gunfire just now, things seem to be calmer than they have been. more shops and

restaurants opening up than in previous days, more people coming out and about. the banks are closed, as are many government offices. far fewer women on the streets although you do see some. not necessarily wearing the burke that people most closely associate with the taliban and's last stint in power. —— burqa. many people are still worried that despite taliban assurances they will not be targeted for links to the government that that could still happen. hard to state how much of the presents they have in the city. everywhere you go you see heavily armed fighters in patrolling vehicles orjust wandering the streets. it is very surreal. this seems to be the new normal in afghanistan, at least for now. we have seen this scenes at the airport. you say there is tension

around there. is there a sense things have eased today, any more chance of people getting out? flights have gradually resumed and the military evacuations have owned some reports commercial ones have taken off as well. that is over the last day or two. the situation seems to be somewhat more under control, certainly compared to the very chaotic scenes at the start of the week, when thousands made their way to the airport, trying to cling on to the airport, trying to cling on to planes as they took off, some staying tragically, holding onto the landing gear after the plane was in the middle of the air and then falling to their death. we have not seen things as chaotic as that. a slight improvement, yes, but still a tense situation and the chaos around the airport makes it more challenging to evacuate people who

have visas arranged, had the evacuation process arranged. it is a challenging atmosphere and environment around the airport. thank you. obviously the situation is fluid in kabul. there is criticism here of the government. particularly of the foreign secretary and how he has handled the crisis. we had a tense day yesterday, in parliament to talk and work out what has gone on to get here. now you see in newspapersjust who has gone on to get here. now you see in newspapers just who did what when and whether they did it quickly enough. and whether they did it quickly enou:h. , and whether they did it quickly enou.h_ , ., and whether they did it quickly enou:h. ., , enough. good morning, it was tense in parliament _ enough. good morning, it was tense in parliament yesterday, _ enough. good morning, it was tense in parliament yesterday, it - enough. good morning, it was tense in parliament yesterday, it was - in parliament yesterday, it was reflective also, angry, people offering perceptions on a 20 year military adventure for the uk in

afghanistan. at its core was a simple fact that the uk and plenty of others around the world were caught on the hop by what happened in afghanistan and the speed of what happened. another example of that playing out this morning in one of the newspapers, the daily mail. it has a scoop about dominic raab, the foreign secretary and the suggestion that when he was on holiday last week at a 5—star resort in crete, described as a boutique for the privileged and perceptive, that he did not make a call to his afghan opposite number who wanted to talk, with the taliban approaching kabul, about getting interpreters who worked for the army out so they were safe. ministers go on holiday in august as plenty of people do, and the foreign office say dominic raab was making calls from his hotel room that he decided it was not

sufficient priority to talk to his afghan opposite number, just 48 hours before kabul fell. afghan opposite number, just 48 hours before kabulfell. it afghan opposite number, just 48 hours before kabul fell. it tells you everything in a small example of just how out of step with what was happening in afghanistan the british government was. the foreign secretary on holiday, his flip—flops on in crete, was making calls but not talking to the foreign minister of afghanistan with his government in peril, and to falljust 48 hours later. in peril, and to fall 'ust 48 hours later. ., president biden has said troops will stay in afghanistan beyond his august 31st withdrawal deadline, if more time is needed to get all american citizens out of the country. in an interview with abc news, the us president once again defended the decision to withdraw us troops, insisting there wasn't a way for them to leave "without chaos ensuing". americans should understand the troops might have to be i

there beyond august the 31st? no, americans will understand that we are going to try to get it done before august the 31st. but if we don't, - the troops will stay? if we don't, we will determine at the time who is left. and? and if there are american forc... if there are american citizens left, we are going to stay until we get them all out. the prime minister was accused of "staggering complacency" by opposition leader sir keir starmer yesterday, during an emergency house of commons debate on the afghanistan crisis. borisjohnson also faced a barrage of criticism from his own backbench over the uk's role in the country. let's remind ourselves of what happened. the very problems we're confronting today in this debate were all known problems the last 18 months, and has been a failure of preparation. mr speaker, the lack

of planning is unforgivable and the prime minister bears a heavy responsibility. it means that 20 years from now, we will have to start all over again. this has been catastrophic, cack—handed, cruel and humiliating. it is a watershed in the failure of the west. i'm afraid i think this has been a major setback- for british foreign policy. we boast about global britain, but where is global britain - on the streets of kabul? during that debate, tobias ellwood, chair of the defence select committee, argued that the uk should never have left afg ha nista n. hejoins us now. were you surprised by the almost unanimous condemnation, the depth of feeling in the commons yesterday? i was surprised generally. i called

for the recall of parliament hoping parliamentarians would have an opportunity to vote on this government's strategy. oh, dear. i think it is clear, if there were a vote, the government would have been defeated. this is a demand, desire for britain to up the foreign policy. we have a reactive foreign policy. we have a reactive foreign policy. i do not know our grand strategy for southeast asia. there is not enough coordination with our closest security ally which is reflected in the chaos unravelling in afghanistan. there were myths about the afghanistan situation put about the afghanistan situation put about not least i'm afraid by president biden who gave a jaundiced interpretation of what is going on. there has not been a war there for the us and british the last three or four years. the afghan forces kept

the taliban at bay and the afghan government, they were legitimised, and now it has unravelled with huge international consequences, and big questions for the west.— questions for the west. president biden, he questions for the west. president biden. he was _ questions for the west. president biden, he was unapologetic- questions for the west. president biden, he was unapologetic in - questions for the west. president biden, he was unapologetic in an | biden, he was unapologetic in an interview overnight, but he said he is prepared to keep us troops there beyond the end of the deadline at the end of the month to get americans out of afghanistan. do you sense something is changing? there is nothin: sense something is changing? there is nothing simple, _ sense something is changing? there is nothing simple, easy _ sense something is changing? ti22 is nothing simple, easy about this transition to the taliban. the northern alliance as it was, those who fled to the mountains, they will be regrouping and coming back with vengeance. there is a dark chapter of civil war to unfold. you see in pockets of the there is an evacuation for the british and

americans to get out. understandably, president biden is having to commit more of an effort to make sure that works and not leave anyone behind. there is a worry an isolated incident could see something triggered at the airport that means the operation would have to fold and depart. i do not understand why the military airport to the north, separate from the urban areas, was not kept open. it has two runways, it is not part of a civilian operation. instead that was abandoned. the afghan government was not told about it until two hours after they departed by which time it had been looted and could not be used by anybody. this has been a shambles of a departure operationally it is going better now but big questions. where we are as a country, for the foreign policy perspective, to influence a world

thatis perspective, to influence a world that is getting more dangerous and unstable. iiii that is getting more dangerous and unstable. .�* that is getting more dangerous and unstable. , , ., ., unstable. if the usa stays longer to net --eole unstable. if the usa stays longer to get people out. _ unstable. if the usa stays longer to get people out, does _ unstable. if the usa stays longer to get people out, does the _ unstable. if the usa stays longer to get people out, does the uk - unstable. if the usa stays longer to get people out, does the uk need l unstable. if the usa stays longer to | get people out, does the uk need to make the same commitment? it is to work together— make the same commitment? it is to work together which _ make the same commitment? it is to work together which is _ make the same commitment? it is to work together which is part _ make the same commitment? it is to work together which is part of - make the same commitment? it is to work together which is part of being l work together which is part of being a nato operation, an alliance working in unison, whether it is in operation for evacuation order to assist the afghans, it should be working together. i understand on the ground that is the case. the americans have contained the perimeter of the airport so we do not see the horrendous scenes of afghans clinging to planes any more but it requires coordination with the taliban. but it requires coordination with the talihan-_ but it requires coordination with the taliban. , , . ., , ., the taliban. very unpredictable that is. we the taliban. very unpredictable that is- we spoke _ the taliban. very unpredictable that is- we spoke to _ the taliban. very unpredictable that is. we spoke to our _ the taliban. very unpredictable that is. we spoke to our correspondent l is. we spoke to our correspondent kabul. he said it is a bit calmer but the situation around the airport is incredibly tense and getting there is not possible for many who want to get out. we there is not possible for many who want to get out.— want to get out. we are seeing a mass migration _

want to get out. we are seeing a mass migration crisis _ want to get out. we are seeing a mass migration crisis not - want to get out. we are seeing a mass migration crisis not seen . want to get out. we are seeing a . mass migration crisis not seen since the second world war. many feel they will be persecuted under the taliban because of their connections with the forces and they want to get out and the only way out at the moment is the airport, no safe ground corridors organise, so we will have a massive displacement problem in afghanistan and a huge refugee crisis in countries surrounding it and elsewhere. [30 crisis in countries surrounding it and elsewhere.— crisis in countries surrounding it and elsewhere. , ., ~ , , and elsewhere. do you think members ofthe and elsewhere. do you think members of the british — and elsewhere. do you think members of the british cabinet _ and elsewhere. do you think members of the british cabinet should _ of the british cabinet should consider their positions right now? right now there is a live operation at hand to get people out. i asked for a full enquiry and repeated the request yesterday. there are so many lessons to be learned as to why two decades of effort have been thrown away and the world has another dictatorship because of us. let's have that enquiry and then we will have that enquiry and then we will have the answers and then people can judge as to what they should do. real questions this morning about

the foreign secretary pulls my actions with reports stood up by the bbc political team that say he was asked by foreign office officials to get in touch with his afghan counterpart at the weekend before the fall of the afghan government and he did not make that call himself and we know what happened next. what do you make when you hear that? i next. what do you make when you hear that? ., ., ~ ., ., , that? i do not know about the calls themselves — that? i do not know about the calls themselves but _ that? i do not know about the calls themselves but i _ that? i do not know about the calls themselves but i would _ that? i do not know about the calls themselves but i would say - that? i do not know about the calls l themselves but i would say everyone needs to work overtime in situations like this, especially when british military lives are at risk, in a detailed and complex live operation. i hope lessons will be learned from what has happened. it is far from over, it will get more dangerous as eventually the airport starts to close down and the operation folds and there will be a final evacuation.— and there will be a final evacuation. ~ ~ ., ., , ., ,, evacuation. we know he was making other calls but _ evacuation. we know he was making other calls but if _ evacuation. we know he was making other calls but if he _ evacuation. we know he was making other calls but if he did _ evacuation. we know he was making other calls but if he did not - evacuation. we know he was making other calls but if he did not make . evacuation. we know he was making other calls but if he did not make a i other calls but if he did not make a call to a senior member of the afghan governmentjust before the

government fell, in the crucial hours before it went disastrously wrong, does he need to consider his position? i wrong, does he need to consider his osition? ., , , . ., position? iwill not speculate. i want the foreign _ position? iwill not speculate. i want the foreign office, - position? iwill not speculate. i want the foreign office, prime | want the foreign office, prime minister, everybody to be focusing on making sure we get people out that we have a duty of care for. this country is in chaos thanks to us and this is an operational and strategic mistake, an own goal, and there is an awful lot of clear up to be done. and then time to reflect on what went wrong.— what went wrong. tobias ellwood, thanks. having two doses of a covid vaccine is the best way to protect against the delta variant, which is now the dominant strain in the uk. the largest survey of infection led by oxford university, has found that while both the pfizer and astrazeneca vaccines are equally effective in the long—term, the pfizerjab works best initially. our health correspondent,

naomi grimley reports. for months, the office for national statistics, in partnership with oxford university, has been asking hundreds of thousands of us to do swabs for their research. unlike other studies, which have looked at how effective vaccines are at keeping people out of hospital, this one has looked at how good they are at preventing any infection with the delta variant. to begin with, the effectiveness of the pfizerjab appears to be better than the oxford astrazeneca one, but, after 11—5 months, pfizer's effectiveness seems to decline faster. what we have found is that effectiveness was initially higher 1a days after a second dose of pfizer compared to astrazeneca. for example, 93% against symptomatic infections for pfizer and 71% for astrazeneca. however, overtime, the effectiveness declines faster

with pfizer than for astrazeneca. the more sobering news is that when infections do occur, double—vaccinated people have the same levels of virus in their nose and throat as those who have not beenjabbed. the researchers say this shows the potential for these people to pass on the disease, even if they are protected against serious illness. we can get more detail on the findings now from professor adam finn, a member of thejoint committee on vaccination and immunisation. would you mind telling me what is new today that you have found from this mass of data collected? it is an interesting _ this mass of data collected? it is an interesting and _ this mass of data collected? it 3 an interesting and important study. it is very big and does not suffer from some of the biases of the studies we have do. it is a good

study. as your correspondence said, it is about the milder infections and how well vaccines control those. i guess the take—home message is with the delta variant, the indirect effects of vaccination, capacity of vaccines to stop the spread of infection has been reduced as compared to the alpha. we can say with confidence that people with two doses are at lower risk of ending up in hospital or dying of covid—19 but the ability of the vaccine programme to stop the virus being spread about is properly not so good now as it was earlier in the year. we is properly not so good now as it was earlier in the year.— was earlier in the year. we are three quarters _ was earlier in the year. we are three quarters of— was earlier in the year. we are three quarters of the - was earlier in the year. we are three quarters of the adult - three quarters of the adult population i think with at least one vaccine. what should we think about in terms of boosters? the vaccine. what should we think about in terms of boosters?— in terms of boosters? the main messa u e in terms of boosters? the main message from _ in terms of boosters? the main message from this _

in terms of boosters? the main message from this is _ in terms of boosters? the main message from this is those - in terms of boosters? the main j message from this is those who in terms of boosters? the main - message from this is those who have not been immunised need to get immunised, because that is the only way they will avoid the risk of getting seriously ill. the implications for boosters are less clear because if our primary aim is to stop people getting sick, at the moment the two doses seem to do that reliably, even in very elderly people. in terms of spreading the virus around, we have a less good ability to do that. the more people, the more adults due vaccinations who come forward, get vaccinated and get second doses, the sooner we will be able to get back to some kind of normality. but able to get back to some kind of normali . �* , .,, normality. but there will be those who have had _ normality. but there will be those who have had second _ normality. but there will be those who have had second doses, - normality. but there will be those who have had second doses, baby earlier this year, who will hear this now, an eight month —— maybe earlier this year. an eight—month optimum forgetting a second dose? irate

optimum forgetting a second dose? 2 need to focus on individuals who are more likely to get sick again if they have not got a boost. we will have a jcvi meeting today to discuss that. trying to identify people who are at risk are needed that third dose. it is less clear whether a third dose in a more general way for all people above a certain age is going to make much difference. at this point the main message is the direct protective effects of these vaccines is excellent. if you get the vaccination you are in a better place in terms of getting sick, but the ability of the programme to stop the ability of the programme to stop the virus circulating in the population is less good than we had hoped. it population is less good than we had ho ed. , , , ., ., population is less good than we had hoed. , , ., ., hoped. it is interesting you have a meetin: hoped. it is interesting you have a meeting this _ hoped. it is interesting you have a meeting this morning. _ hoped. it is interesting you have a meeting this morning. will - hoped. it is interesting you have a meeting this morning. will you . hoped. it is interesting you have a l meeting this morning. will you talk about the possibility of mixing

vaccines, perhaps you had your first doses that were astrazeneca or pfizer and then you have something different as a booster? hat pfizer and then you have something different as a booster?— different as a booster? not this mornin: different as a booster? not this morning we _ different as a booster? not this morning we will— different as a booster? not this morning we will discuss - different as a booster? not this morning we will discuss that . different as a booster? not this| morning we will discuss that but soon. a study run from southampton is looking at that and we are beginning to see data from that study and that is what you were talking about, giving different sized doses and vaccines to people who have had two doses so that we will have more information about that in the near future.— will have more information about that in the near future. should we clear u- that in the near future. should we clear up this- _ that in the near future. should we clear up this. both _ that in the near future. should we clear up this. both vaccines, - that in the near future. should we clear up this. both vaccines, one | that in the near future. should we | clear up this. both vaccines, one is more effective in the earlier stages, the early days of receiving it than the other. the pfizer is more effective in the early days, the astrazeneca then increases in the astrazeneca then increases in the longer term? the astrazeneca then increases in the longer term ?_ the astrazeneca then increases in the longer term? more or less that is riuht. it the longer term? more or less that is right- it is _ the longer term? more or less that is right. it is important _ the longer term? more or less that is right. it is important to - the longer term? more or less that is right. it is important to be - is right. it is important to be clear we are talking about

effectiveness against infection or miles symptomatic disease not hospitalisation type disease, against which both vaccines are highly effective once you have had two doses. in terms of miles symptomatic illness, this study suggests in the short—term, after two doses of pfizer, that is slightly higher, but it declines fast and becomes rather similar to astrazeneca after a month or two. at that stage, you are pretty much in the same place whether you have had one vaccine all the other. iloathed the same place whether you have had one vaccine all the other.— one vaccine all the other. what is clear is that _ one vaccine all the other. what is clear is that the _ one vaccine all the other. what is clear is that the delta _ one vaccine all the other. what is clear is that the delta variant - one vaccine all the other. what is clear is that the delta variant has| clear is that the delta variant has made clear that the possibility of being ill, even if vaccinated, is increasing, so with the delta variant compared to others. it is true the delta _ variant compared to others. it 3 true the delta variant is a problem in two ways. it is more infectious

than the alpha variant, so it has taken over the epidemic in this country. the other is that it can escape the immunity you get from either being infected or vaccinated to some extent, not entirely. these results are focused on relatively mild infectious disease, not serious hospitalisation. people should not think somehow the vaccines have stopped working. if you have been vaccinated your risks of getting seriously ill are massively reduced from both vaccines but unfortunately, the likelihood of you getting the infection and passing it on to others getting mildly ill is still a problem to some extent. ok. still a problem to some extent. ok, thanks, professor— still a problem to some extent. ok, thanks, professoradam finch still a problem to some extent. ok, thanks, professor adam finch and good luck with your meeting this morning. —— adam thin. it is everybody�*s mind, about

boosters. you are watching bbc breakfast. still to come. as tributes are paid to the comedian sean lock, we're joined by his friends and comedic colleagues — bill bailey and dave spikey. we'll have that shortly and bring you the latest news. now it's time for the weather with carol. mixed, i think, mixed, ithink, but mixed, i think, but hopeful, mixed, ithink, but hopeful, is mixed, i think, but hopeful, is that the right mood to adopt? a good mood to adopt any morning. there is a lot of mixed weather around. starting off in many parts on a cloudy note as you can see from the picture. today, the cloud will be thick enough for light rain and drizzle. temperatures not as high as some parts or yesterday with bridlington up to the mid 20s. we

have sunshine pushing eastwards this morning. pushed by a weather front thatis morning. pushed by a weather front that is weak, bringing showers across england and wales. as it clears, we see brighter skies return, sunshine, temperatures rise and it will spark off showers. northern ireland will have brightness at times as in northern england but still some showers around. in the north of scotland, brighter breaks but here we are looking at showers. temperatures 13 in the north, 21 in the south. it will not be as breezy today as yesterday. this evening and overnight we hang on to showers. clear skies. overnight we hang on to showers. clearskies. some overnight we hang on to showers. clear skies. some fog forming and still some cloud. by the end of the night, the next where the system will show its hand. edging into the west of northern ireland. not a cold night. most places in double figures. tomorrow, we start on a

relatively bright note. some sunshine around. cloud thick enough for showers. and then a weather front crossing northern ireland into south—west scotland, isle of man, north—west england, the second following behind it will bring rain across northern ireland. ahead of it, in any sunshine we could hit 23. it will start to feel humid and the breeze will pick up in the west. into saturday, many central and eastern parts of england. with sunshine but the forecast has changed since yesterday. the weather front in the west will move quicker now, getting into the london area earlier than expected. some of this rain could be heavy across england and wales. scotland and northern ireland, rain at times, some brighter skies between. the temperature range 14—24 but feeling

humid. sunday, low pressure bringing this rain will clear faster from the south—east but we will have rain to start the day, followed by showers, but a lot of dry weather during the course of sunday. temperatures ranging from 15—24. hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and naga munchetty. there have been more chaotic scenes outside of kabul airport overnight, as the rush to leave afghanistan continues. meanwhile, foreign secretary dominic raab has faced further criticism, as the government's strategy in afghanistan is condemned from all sides of parliament.

joining us now is ben wallace, the defence secretary. he was there in parliament for that big commons debate yesterday. thank you forjoining us. can we start with the latest news you have got for us on what is happening at kabul airport? for us on what is happening at kabul airort? , ., , , for us on what is happening at kabul airort? , , ., , , airport? yes, i was up early this mornin: airport? yes, i was up early this morning speaking _ airport? yes, i was up early this morning speaking to _ airport? yes, i was up early this morning speaking to our - airport? yes, i was up early this i morning speaking to our command airport? yes, i was up early this - morning speaking to our command on the ground, first of all, the taliban are letting our people through but the challenge is that they are letting everyone else through which is why you see this horrific footage of people trying to get into the airport. that creates a public order problem rather than a security problem but nevertheless we are getting that dealt with and i am going to deploy another company of military today to support our troops on the ground to help manage the

crowd. that is our single biggest challenge but they are getting through. as we speak, a plane is about to take off with 115 people and their families, about to take off with 115 people and theirfamilies, and 138 on the next flight. those are the afghan people on there, as opposed to other personnel. none of our planes are leaving empty. i have seen some reports saying that, i cannot vouch for other nations but our planes never leave empty, if we have spaces we offer them up to other nations. we took out some nato interpreters recently, we have taken out people from other neighbouring states, within europe and others around the world, if that's possible. we will do all of that and those planes will route through other countries in the middle anyway. that is where we are, we have a full programme today of many more people coming out, trying to reach our capability towards the end of the month. and i think that is so far on track. what happens, so

people understand, different problems arise. if we change the criteria and suddenly say, we are going to let more people in who have not previously part of the programme, we have to find a way to process them but keep our security sacred. we are doing it as fast as we can. the pluses are getting through, the downside is public order. ., , ., , ., through, the downside is public order. ., ., order. you say the planes are not em , order. you say the planes are not empty. but _ order. you say the planes are not empty. but 100 _ order. you say the planes are not empty, but 100 also _ order. you say the planes are not empty, but 100 also does - order. you say the planes are not empty, but 100 also does not - order. you say the planes are not| empty, but 100 also does not sell many, doesn't sound like anything like the 1000 a day we are hoping to get out. we like the 1000 a day we are hoping to net out. ~ ., ,., ~ get out. we have something like nine orten planes— get out. we have something like nine or ten planes today. _ get out. we have something like nine or ten planes today. and _ get out. we have something like nine or ten planes today. and depending l or ten planes today. and depending what plane you are on, a c 130 what plane you are on, a c130 hercules, that is pretty maximum on one of those planes, 138. you and i would not been able to fly the way some of those planes are flying in safety, so we are taking risks.

there will be troops and others coming in and out which we have to do. so we absolutely are ploughing through the numbers. we will call them forward, i havejust through the numbers. we will call them forward, i have just been speaking with the home secretary, she is doing more to make it quicker for us all. last night i deployed soldiers in the uk to help in places like the foreign office and home office, to increase the processing time as quickly as possible. so those planes are not empty. we are taking out three groups of people, a wider government personnel, british citizens and passport holders, they are called entitled personnel, new categories like media that we have been talking about, human rights supporters, and people who work for us, the military, and they will make up us, the military, and they will make up the whole plane.— us, the military, and they will make up the whole plane. president biden has said overnight _ up the whole plane. president biden has said overnight that _ up the whole plane. president biden has said overnight that he _ up the whole plane. president biden has said overnight that he is - up the whole plane. president biden has said overnight that he is paired. has said overnight that he is paired to allow american troops to remain

in afghanistan, —— prepared to allow it beyond the deadline at the end of the month, if that is what it takes to keep getting american people out. are you prepared to say the same about uk forces? irate are you prepared to say the same about uk forces?— about uk forces? we will stay as lona as about uk forces? we will stay as long as the _ about uk forces? we will stay as long as the united _ about uk forces? we will stay as long as the united states - about uk forces? we will stay as long as the united states forces| about uk forces? we will stay as i long as the united states forces are running the airport. the airport is now being run by the united states, they have five to 6000 people on the ground there, doing everything from the control tower to the firefighters, they are running that airport. so in that sense, the us stay and gives us an opportunity to continue this, i have always said our scheme is open ended, we are never going to close that scheme. so long after we are gone, whenever thatis, long after we are gone, whenever that is, we are starting to invest in third country hub is already so we can process people if they get out to other countries in the region. and we will always be able to do that. we would be grateful if there is a longer time to do this.

but also i recognise the reality on the ground that the taliban are currently running the country, they are bringing together some of the old government, certainly we see that, and they are starting the process of forming a government. and so some of those decisions are unknown. i have to plan for the worst, but hope for the best. you sa we worst, but hope for the best. you say we will _ worst, but hope for the best. you say we will stay — worst, but hope for the best. you say we will stay there for as long as the americans are running the airport, are you saying, is the uk government saying to the americans, we need to stay longer, we want you to stay longer?— to stay longer? yeah, we all want loner to to stay longer? yeah, we all want longer to do _ to stay longer? yeah, we all want longer to do what _ to stay longer? yeah, we all want longer to do what we _ to stay longer? yeah, we all want longer to do what we need - to stay longer? yeah, we all want longer to do what we need to - to stay longer? yeah, we all want longer to do what we need to do. | to stay longer? yeah, we all want i longer to do what we need to do. no one likes to see the rush to the exit in the way we have seen on the television. we all know that we have considerable numbers of people to process. we have got 116,000 people to process, we have 3000 out, we —— 4—6000 people to process. we will do

everything we can take people out. i said two weeks ago, not everyone will get out. we will try everything we can and if we have a lot more time, then everyone would get out. but what we know about this conflict, we knew about what we are seeing on the ground, it is highly creditable and every hours matter. so we are working through the night to make sure that here and in afghanistan we get these people out of the country. igrates afghanistan we get these people out of the country-— of the country. was president biden's cut-off _ of the country. was president biden's cut-off point, - of the country. was president biden's cut-off point, which l of the country. was president i biden's cut-off point, which now of the country. was president - biden's cut-off point, which now no biden's cut—off point, which now no longer seems to be his cut—off point, was that the biggest mistake of all? , , ., , of all? remember, this time last week, of all? remember, this time last week. last _ of all? remember, this time last week, last friday, _ of all? remember, this time last week, last friday, the _ of all? remember, this time last week, last friday, the speed - of all? remember, this time last week, last friday, the speed of l of all? remember, this time last l week, last friday, the speed of the collapse of the afghan government took everyone by surprise. and when i mean the speed, every intelligence service internationally, notjust, i had criticism yesterday against us but also the americans, they were

caught by that by the speed of collapse. and it meant that a timetable had to be set. and the timetable had to be set. and the timetable of august 31 of the existing timetable, done during may this year when the americans slipped, they were originally going to leave in may. the key thing is, things are changing rapidly. that's why every hour counts, that's why i'm putting in another company of soldiers today to help on the border to get people through. if at the end of the day we are allowed to stay longer, and we can stay longer, that is a real benefit to us all. yesterday's debate in parliament was particularly brutal for you as the government, you had to sit there and listen to some real criticism, some of it from your inside. ijust want to play a clip, this was another former soldier like yourself, another conservative mp, tom tugendhat. another conservative mp, tom tugendhat-_

another conservative mp, tom tu~endhat. ., ., ., ., tugendhat. the image of a man, whose name i tugendhat. the image of a man, whose name i never — tugendhat. the image of a man, whose name i never knew, _ tugendhat. the image of a man, whose name i never knew, carrying _ tugendhat. the image of a man, whose name i never knew, carrying a - tugendhat. the image of a man, whose name i never knew, carrying a child - name i never knew, carrying a child who had _ name i never knew, carrying a child who had died hours earlier, carrying the child _ who had died hours earlier, carrying the child into our fire base, and begging — the child into our fire base, and begging for help. and there is nothing — begging for help. and there is nothing we could do. it was over. mr speaker, _ nothing we could do. it was over. mr speaker, this— nothing we could do. it was over. mr speaker, this is what defeat looks like. speaker, this is what defeat looks like it's_ speaker, this is what defeat looks like. it's when you no longer have the choice — like. it's when you no longer have the choice of how to help. this doesn't — the choice of how to help. this doesn't need to be defeat. but at the moment, it damn well feels like it. , ., the moment, it damn well feels like it. , . well, the moment, it damn well feels like it-- well. you _ the moment, it damn well feels like it.- well, you know, - the moment, it damn well feels like it.- well, you know, as- the moment, it damn well feels like it.- well, you know, as i - it. defeat? well, you know, as i said, on numerous— it. defeat? well, you know, as i said, on numerous occasions, i it. defeat? well, you know, as i i said, on numerous occasions, the tohow ideal which was done 18 months ago —— the doha deal laid the foundations of what we saw today, which was the taliban military

taking over the country and the collapse of the afghan government. we can pour over white. i was in that debate and as you say it was a very passionate debate, and many people like tom felt quite rightly very sad and angry, he had served in afghanistan, and the event he was describing was not a recent event, that was the sense is older often feels when you are powerless to deal with the horrors you see in front of you. —— that is the sense a soldier often feels. soldiers want things to be better around the world, and sometimes they walk into conflicts that are hundreds of years old or tens of years old and it feels powerless. he's also right to feel very angry. where are we, did this happen? —— why did this happen? we have heard on the other side, 480 odd british souls died in that country, i do believe a lot of it was worth it, i think keeping our

streets for 20 years from al-anda, i was often on your programme is the security minister, i saw the plots that were foiled or disrupted because of our work in afghanistan, that kept you and i save on the way to work many times. he is to work many times. he right. that kept you and i save on the way to work many times. he right. what i had in that debate was a lot of anger directed 360, directed at a lot of people but we didn't hear many solutions.— lot of people but we didn't hear many solutions. there was a lot of talk about the _ many solutions. there was a lot of talk about the past _ many solutions. there was a lot of talk about the past and _ many solutions. there was a lot of talk about the past and past - talk about the past and past decisions but most of the anger was focused on the front branch of the current government to have been involved in this recent decision. we saw you getting quite emotional yourself as a former soldier in interviews this week. looking at you on the front bench yesterday, i wondered how comfortable you were listening to that criticism, help personally did you take it. did you sit there and listen to it, and

think, maybe i should go here, maybe i should think about my own position?— i should think about my own osition? . . ., ., position? what i am comfortable with is that we have _ position? what i am comfortable with is that we have a _ position? what i am comfortable with is that we have a world _ position? what i am comfortable with is that we have a world order - position? what i am comfortable with is that we have a world order now- is that we have a world order now where resolve is perceived by our adversaries is weak, the west's result. i know that you don't fix things like afghanistan, you don't fix 1000 years of history, history will show that. britain and the soviet union in afghanistan, you don't fix those problems. and i think what has been said is over the last 15 or 18 months, we saw —— i think what is sad that over the last 18 months, we saw a deal which is not what people wanted. yes, people throw things at the government of the day, and i think there is also an element here of the government of the day, i never heard a single

thing from a labour mp after the doha deal, one single criticism, and in fact keir starmer supported it. he could have read it, he read it, i read it and ifelt he could have read it, he read it, i read it and i felt uncomfortable about it, i made representations to the parties at the time, the deal was done and that is what we live with. g , , ., i. was done and that is what we live with. , , ., ., ., ., with. just before you go, i have to ask about the _ with. just before you go, i have to ask about the reports _ with. just before you go, i have to ask about the reports this - with. just before you go, i have to | ask about the reports this morning about the foreign secretary dominic rav insome of the papers, confirmed tjy rav insome of the papers, confirmed by the bbc, —— dominic raab, he was asked by officials in his department to call his counterpart in afghanistan to sort things out, but he personally did not make that call, he may have made other calls, because he was on holiday. was that a mistake and should he consider his position? a mistake and should he consider his osition? , ., ., position? first of all i can tell ou last position? first of all i can tell

you last friday _ position? first of all i can tell you last friday that _ position? first of all i can tell you last friday that i - position? first of all i can tell you last friday that i was - position? first of all i can tell. you last friday that i was dealing with it through the night on saturday as well, the number one problem last week, the only problem last week was not a phone call to an afghan government that was melting away and did not have any leverage, the number one challenge at the end of last week was whether the airport would continue to fly, allow planes to fly out and those people that we were getting out, would they be allowed to get out. that was the number one call, that was the only thing that mattered, that's why we were planning troop deployment which were planning troop deployment which we have now done, and no amount of phone calls to afghan government at that moment into time would have made any difference. what made it different is what we're doing now and that is why you are seeing families coming out. as we are on the air, i think 119 afghan families and eligible people will be flying out, followed by another few hundred and hopefully by the end of the day, anything up to 1000 over the next 2a and was. that is what mattered on

friday and what and was. that is what mattered on friday and wha— and was. that is what mattered on friday and what matters now. thank each forjoining _ friday and what matters now. thank each forjoining us. _ friday and what matters now. thank each forjoining us. -- _ friday and what matters now. thank each forjoining us. -- thank - friday and what matters now. thank each forjoining us. -- thank you - each forjoining us. —— thank you forjoining us. let's have a look at the sport, will he, wendy, is he or isn't he, should he, wendy, is he or isn't he, should he stay or go? it has been reported that there is a gentlemen's agreement between harry kane and the chairman of tottenham daniel levy that he would be allowed to leave. tottenham fans want the answer to this one, where will harry kane be playing his football? the england captain hasn't travelled with the tottenham squad for their european match tonight amid speculation over his future at the club. kane, who's been linked with a move to manchester city, hasn't flown to portugal for spurs' europa conference league play—off first leg against pacos de ferreira. it's thought kane is still working on his fitness and manager nuno espirito santo says he can't confirm whether he will be ready for their league game against wolves on saturday.

what's happening behind the doors is harry is our player, he's preparing himself, he trained today and he's going to train tomorrow and again on friday. joining the group. and this is how we operate. we don't, we don't really pay much attention to what's being said outside regarding the situation. harry is our player, he's one of the best players in the world and we are very lucky to have him. both celtic�*s men and women's teams were in european action last night, one doing better than the other. the men's team had a great night in glasgow, beating dutch side az alkmaar 2—0 in the first leg of their europa league play—off. but the women's team are out of the first qualifying round of the champions league. they were beaten 2—1 by spanish side levante, despite this goal from caitlin hayes. andy murray is out of the cincinnati masters after losing to ninth seed hubert hurkacz. it was the first meeting on the tour between the two players, with two—time champion murray beaten

in straight sets by the 24—year—old pole. british number two heather watson is also out. she lost to world number one ashleigh barty in straight sets. it was the australian's first match since losing in the first round at the tokyo olympics and she needed a tie—break to beat watson. that is your sport, more later. thank you very much. "wonderful comic, "exceptional man" and "truly hilarious" are just some of the words used to describe the comedian sean lock, who has died from cancer, aged 58. he was best known for appearing in some of the nations most well—loved comedy programmes such as "eight out of ten cats", "15 storeys high" and "have i got news for you", in a career spanning nearly 30 years. let's have a look back at some of his best moments. applause thanks for that lovely welcome, lovely to be here tonight at the apollo. lovely to be here, i say that, i did have terrible trouble

getting here tonight, i started out with an unhappy childhood. 16 years, no lager. i don't know how i did it. i went for a job recently, a bit of voice—over work. and i actually got offered the part of the speaking clock, but i didn't like the script. and i said, "couldn't we jazz it up a bit, so something like, humpty dumpty, sat on a wall, humpty dumpty had a great fall, all the king's horses and all the king's men, couldn't bring humpty by five past ten". anyone who's got a twitter account is vain. that's the ultimate sign of vanity. it's vanity, you think people are really interested in what you just mutter? really, i don't think the dictionary has got enough words in it to describe me. i think it's, i'm such an amazing, complicated, i'm more like a sensation, an idea. the best way to describe me is with a fragrance. you smell it and you go, that's sean lock. that smell. like hot tarmac in a vet's flannel.

we were saying this earlier, he had a brilliant way of taking the ordinary and calling it out. the little things. — ordinary and calling it out. the little things, yes. _ ordinary and calling it out. the little things, yes. we - we're joined by his friends and comedic colleagues, bill bailey and dave spikey. good morning to you both. that's the thing, whenever you saw or watched him, i never met him, but whenever i watched him, he would literally take, lipstick stain on coffee mug and just go at it and have this amazing ability to riff for ages. ihe amazing ability to riff for ages. he was a amazing ability to riff for ages. h2 was a one—off, he was unique at that. comedy is all about the punch line, generally speaking. it diverts the audiences attention, you misdirect them, and you hit them with the punch line. it's a surprise. and that's what you're looking for. but with sean, it was an odyssey. the journey to the punch

line was full of surprises as well. and that's difficult enough with an audience that when you're working with him and he's constantly surprising new, and you are thinking, how? on early days of eight out of ten cats, i was so blessed to be there with him, one of my heroes, i was sat there the whole time just going, that was brilliant. i was never expecting it, it was all about the surprise and the inventiveness of it all, coming out of that weird and wonderful world. how did you become friends? i should say, i'm sorry, i'm sorry you lost yourfriend. say, i'm sorry, i'm sorry you lost your friend-— say, i'm sorry, i'm sorry you lost your friend. yeah, it's odd. i was on the computer _ your friend. yeah, it's odd. i was on the computer yesterday - your friend. yeah, it's odd. i was on the computer yesterday and l your friend. yeah, it's odd. i was on the computer yesterday and i | on the computer yesterday and i looked at the screen and his picture came up, that lovely smile. and i thought, what is sean up to? and you read it, in its disbelief, like, no. because a massive presence has gone,

massive. the whole world is dark, i'm talking in cliches. but i can believe it. we became friends, —— i couldn't believe it. i was a stage behind sean because i started on comedy quite late, i was working with him on the northern circuit, it was difficult to break into london. i was talking to sean, he was a very kind, generous man. i was talking about how difficult it was to get on the circuit in london. and him and a few others opened some doors for me earlier on and within a few years i was playing the comedy store with him. he would walk in and see who was on tonight, me, bill bailey and sean lock, and you think, can i go on first? i don't want to follow these lads! but then also i could relax and watch the rest of the show. he was exceptional. definition of a genius, exceptional, intellectual, creative. that was

him. ., ., ., , him. you were lucky to have been touched by _ him. you were lucky to have been touched by him _ him. you were lucky to have been touched by him in _ him. you were lucky to have been touched by him in your _ him. you were lucky to have been touched by him in your life. - him. you were lucky to have been touched by him in your life. bill, i touched by him in your life. bill, you knew him really well as a mate. i think we all feel we knew him and he was our mate, even though most of his didn't. tell us about your mate, what don't we know about sean? weill. what don't we know about sean? well, i think, really. — what don't we know about sean? well, i think, really. i— what don't we know about sean? well, ithink, really, iwould— what don't we know about sean? well, i think, really, i would echo _ what don't we know about sean? well, i think, really, i would echo a - what don't we know about sean? well, i think, really, i would echo a lot of what — i think, really, i would echo a lot of what dave said. sean was a very, very kind _ of what dave said. sean was a very, very kind man, a generous, very loyal— very kind man, a generous, very loyal friend _ very kind man, a generous, very loyal friend. and he was someone that likes — loyal friend. and he was someone that likes to help people. he likes to do— that likes to help people. he likes to do things for others, and he was very concerned and conscientious like that — very concerned and conscientious like that. and i think that one of the things— like that. and i think that one of the things that has really come across— the things that has really come across to — the things that has really come across to me, certainly over the last 24— across to me, certainly over the last 24 hours, reading a lot of the comments. — last 24 hours, reading a lot of the comments, and certainly, a lot of the tributes paid by other comedians, is that he kind of, he

really— comedians, is that he kind of, he really looked out for other people. and he _ really looked out for other people. and he was, you know, he blazed a trail in_ and he was, you know, he blazed a trail in many— and he was, you know, he blazed a trail in many ways. a lot of comics looked _ trail in many ways. a lot of comics looked up — trail in many ways. a lot of comics looked up to— trail in many ways. a lot of comics looked up to him, a lot of comedians would _ looked up to him, a lot of comedians would watch — looked up to him, a lot of comedians would watch him and realise that actually, — would watch him and realise that actually, you know what? it gives you strength, listening to sean and watching _ you strength, listening to sean and watching him. he was quite fearless in many— watching him. he was quite fearless in many ways. yes, he was great fun. one of— in many ways. yes, he was great fun. one of the _ in many ways. yes, he was great fun. one of the comments that really struck— one of the comments that really struck me — one of the comments that really struck me yesterday, i was a bit numb— struck me yesterday, i was a bit numb yesterday, i was kind of a bit overwhelmed by all of the comments, and there _ overwhelmed by all of the comments, and there was one comment and it is said, _ and there was one comment and it is said. it _ and there was one comment and it is said. it was _ and there was one comment and it is said. itwasa— and there was one comment and it is said, it was a fine, and they —— it was— said, it was a fine, and they —— it wasa— said, it was a fine, and they —— it wasa fan. — said, it was a fine, and they —— it was a fan, they said, i'm so sorry to hear— was a fan, they said, i'm so sorry to hear about _ was a fan, they said, i'm so sorry to hear about sean. he said, he looked — to hear about sean. he said, he looked like _ to hear about sean. he said, he looked like he was fun to be around. and no— looked like he was fun to be around. and no truer— looked like he was fun to be around. and no truer word was spoken. he was: _ and no truer word was spoken. he was, he _ and no truer word was spoken. he was, he was — and no truer word was spoken. he was, he was great fun. we had the

best time — was, he was great fun. we had the best time together, over more than 30 years— best time together, over more than 30 years that i had known him. we had some — 30 years that i had known him. we had some great nights. aside from the world _ had some great nights. aside from the world of comedy, from entertainment and tv, our families -ot entertainment and tv, our families got to— entertainment and tv, our families got to know— entertainment and tv, our families got to know each other over the years. _ got to know each other over the years. and — got to know each other over the years, and we've become like one family _ years, and we've become like one family and — years, and we've become like one family. and some of the nights we've had, just— family. and some of the nights we've had, just helpless with laughter. he was great _ had, just helpless with laughter. he was great fun, great company, a very loyal friend. _ was great fun, great company, a very loyal friend-— loyalfriend. bill, i'm kind of imagining — loyalfriend. bill, i'm kind of imagining those _ loyalfriend. bill, i'm kind of imagining those family - loyalfriend. bill, i'm kind of. imagining those family holidays loyalfriend. bill, i'm kind of- imagining those family holidays when you're all sitting around, and there's almost an expectation that there's almost an expectation that the comedians on the rim other funny ones and that's not always the case. when you're all together, or is it competitive in that way? or was it just like, you let everyone thrive in that company? i just like, you let everyone thrive in that company?— just like, you let everyone thrive in that company? i think so, yes. the thing is. _ in that company? i think so, yes. the thing is, when _ in that company? i think so, yes. the thing is, when comics - in that company? i think so, yes. the thing is, when comics are i in that company? i think so, yes. - the thing is, when comics are around each other, _

the thing is, when comics are around each other, you naturally are competitive. you always, it is a bit like the _ competitive. you always, it is a bit like the punch line like dave said, when _ like the punch line like dave said, when you — like the punch line like dave said, when you get together someone will tell a story, and then someone else will tell— tell a story, and then someone else will tell a _ tell a story, and then someone else will tell a story, and you bounce off each— will tell a story, and you bounce off each other. and there was always an element— off each other. and there was always an element of that with sean, he was or is wanting — an element of that with sean, he was or is wanting to tell a funny story, wanting _ or is wanting to tell a funny story, wanting to — or is wanting to tell a funny story, wanting to gently make fun. we would banter— wanting to gently make fun. we would banter with _ wanting to gently make fun. we would banter with each other the whole time, _ banter with each other the whole time, constantly bickering. and his comic— time, constantly bickering. and his comic sensibilities were always thinking — comic sensibilities were always thinking of possibilities for comedy. it's one of the great things about— comedy. it's one of the great things about him _ comedy. it's one of the great things about him as a performer and a writer— about him as a performer and a writer and — about him as a performer and a writer and a _ about him as a performer and a writer and a comic, he was incredibly— writer and a comic, he was incredibly prolific. he wrote a huge amount— incredibly prolific. he wrote a huge amount of— incredibly prolific. he wrote a huge amount of comedy. he wrote tv scripts _ amount of comedy. he wrote tv scripts as— amount of comedy. he wrote tv scripts as well as writing stand—up.

it scripts as well as writing stand—up. it wasn't _ scripts as well as writing stand—up. it wasn't like he was always on, but we were _ it wasn't like he was always on, but we were always having a laugh, we were _ we were always having a laugh, we were always bantering and bickering, telling _ were always bantering and bickering, telling stories, trying to top each others— telling stories, trying to top each other's stories. so we had some great — other's stories. so we had some great the _ other's stories. so we had some great... the thing is, sean love to travel, _ great... the thing is, sean love to travel, love — great... the thing is, sean love to travel, love to travel, he loved any new plays — travel, love to travel, he loved any new plays or— travel, love to travel, he loved any new plays or new challenge. —— a new place _ new plays or new challenge. —— a new place we _ new plays or new challenge. —— a new place. we were similar in that regard, — place. we were similar in that regard, we loved travelling together. we had many trips and adventures. together. we had many trips and adventures-— together. we had many trips and adventures. . . ., adventures. dave, watching him and en'o in: adventures. dave, watching him and enjoying his — adventures. dave, watching him and enjoying his comedy _ adventures. dave, watching him and enjoying his comedy over _ adventures. dave, watching him and enjoying his comedy over the - adventures. dave, watching him and enjoying his comedy over the years, | enjoying his comedy over the years, itjust enjoying his comedy over the years, it just felt that it was just so easy for him. it was effortless, his comedy. was he working hard behind the scenes? i comedy. was he working hard behind the scenes? ., �* ~ ., ., , the scenes? i don't know, i only worked with _ the scenes? i don't know, i only worked with him _ the scenes? i don't know, i only worked with him on _ the scenes? i don't know, i only worked with him on eight - the scenes? i don't know, i only worked with him on eight out i the scenes? i don't know, i only worked with him on eight out of| the scenes? i don't know, i only - worked with him on eight out of ten cats, but it was that thing where it was hard for a lot of us on there because it was a showcase for a lot of comedians to come on and present themselves and do well on it. it

wasn't one of those quizzes where you are against the opposite team, you are against the opposite team, you are against each other because people were trying to shine on it. and sean, it was effortless. i think you did prepare, he must have done. in his own way, in his own way his brain works. and he surprised us with that. but it also going back to what bill was saying there, the banter, that's what a lot of the rounds turned into, putting people down and having a laugh and criticisms. and at the end of it, you could see sean? analytical working away. and getting away from the —— sean's analytical brain working away. he would be the one who would top you all at the end. every single time he would bide his time. people say he had this deadpan delivery, i suppose you could call it that but he was just, he was just

an ordinary bloke talking. it was yourmate down the pub talking, and he had that amazing intonation. it was almost like you got hypnotised by his delivery. and then he would take it to another level, with the absurd all the surreal. it was just wonderful. absurd all the surreal. it was 'ust wonderful.— wonderful. finalthought, bill, i know we spoke _ wonderful. finalthought, bill, i know we spoke yesterday, - wonderful. finalthought, bill, i know we spoke yesterday, and l wonderful. finalthought, bill, i. know we spoke yesterday, and you knew this was coming, you knew that sean was living with cancer. how are you going to remember him? you are supporting yourfamily you going to remember him? you are supporting your family and his family, i know you are very close, how will you remember him? well, i think the thing _ how will you remember him? well, i think the thing is _ how will you remember him? well, i think the thing is that _ how will you remember him? well, i think the thing is that he _ how will you remember him? well, i think the thing is that he leaves - think the thing is that he leaves this wonderful legacy of work, the huge _ this wonderful legacy of work, the huge body of work which is his appearances on shows like eight out of ten _ appearances on shows like eight out of ten cats— appearances on shows like eight out of ten cats and the countdown spin off, and _ of ten cats and the countdown spin off, and his — of ten cats and the countdown spin

off, and his appearances on oi and various— off, and his appearances on oi and various other shows. and his stand-up _ various other shows. and his stand—up specials. and it's an extraordinary legacy. his influence, i extraordinary legacy. his influence, ithink. _ extraordinary legacy. his influence, ithink. is _ extraordinary legacy. his influence, i think, is huge. we extraordinary legacy. his influence, ithink, is huge. we have extraordinary legacy. his influence, i think, is huge. we have lost one of the _ i think, is huge. we have lost one of the greats of the british comedy scene _ of the greats of the british comedy scene of— of the greats of the british comedy scene, of any comedy. i will remember him as, you know, the two of us _ remember him as, you know, the two of us walking — remember him as, you know, the two of us walking out, going for walks, sitting _ of us walking out, going for walks, sitting on— of us walking out, going for walks, sitting on top of the ridgeway, watching red kites, sitting there having _ watching red kites, sitting there having a — watching red kites, sitting there having a packed lunch. and talking about _ having a packed lunch. and talking about every subject under the sun. he was— about every subject under the sun. he was interested in so much. he had a brilliant _ he was interested in so much. he had a brilliant mind, incredibly analytical mind, and he was incredibly smart. and of course, our families— incredibly smart. and of course, our families will— incredibly smart. and of course, our families will be, you know, will be together, — families will be, you know, will be together, every time we will remember him. the times we had

together~ — remember him. the times we had together. we are grateful for the times— together. we are grateful for the times we — together. we are grateful for the times we had, and all of those moments. _ times we had, and all of those moments, occasions, nights out, trips, _ moments, occasions, nights out, trips, all— moments, occasions, nights out, trips, all of— moments, occasions, nights out, trips, all of those, we have a rich store _ trips, all of those, we have a rich store of— trips, all of those, we have a rich store of memories to draw on. it�*s trips, all of those, we have a rich store of memories to draw on. it's a fortunate thing _ store of memories to draw on. it's a fortunate thing to _ store of memories to draw on. it's a fortunate thing to be _ store of memories to draw on. it�*s 2. fortunate thing to be touched by someone you get to love. bill bailey, thank you so much, and our condolences of course, to you and your family. condolences of course, to you and yourfamily. same to condolences of course, to you and your family. same to you, condolences of course, to you and yourfamily. same to you, dave, as well. your family. same to you, dave, as well. ., ~ your family. same to you, dave, as well. . ,, , ., your family. same to you, dave, as well. . «i , ., ., your family. same to you, dave, as well. . «i i. ., ., , , well. thank you for the opportunity to rive m well. thank you for the opportunity to give my respect. _ well. thank you for the opportunity to give my respect, thank - well. thank you for the opportunity to give my respect, thank you. - well. thank you for the opportunity to give my respect, thank you. the j to give my respect, thank you. the headhnes to give my respect, thank you. the headlines are _ to give my respect, thank you. the headlines are coming up.

good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and jon kay.

our headlines today. "every hour counts" — the defence secretary says british troops will remain in afghanistan for as long as they're needed. if for as long as they're needed. at the end of the da' allowed if at the end of the day we are allowed to stay longer or we can stay longer, that is a real benefit to us all. president biden meanwhile says us troops could remain in afghanistan beyond the end of august, passing his deadline for withdrawal. on the ground in kabul. afghanistan adjusts to life under the taliban. both the pfizer and the astrazeneca vaccines still offer good protection against the delta variant of covid according to the largest survey of the infection in the uk the battle for morrisons. three firms are vying to takeover the bradford—based supermarket. a new higher bid is expected in the next few hours. so who wants it and why? i'll look at the details.

it's thursday, 19th august. in the last half an hour, the defence secretary has told this programme that british troops could stay in afghanistan beyond the august 31st withdrawal deadline — if more time is needed to complete the evacuation from the country. more troops have been sent to kabul airport to support the rescue mission. we're joined now by our political correspondent chris mason. what does it mean in terms of what happens next? i what does it mean in terms of what happens next?— happens next? i thought it was an interestin: happens next? i thought it was an interesting briefing, _ happens next? i thought it was an interesting briefing, your - interesting briefing, your conversation with the deer —— the defence secretary. we know the uk and us and others were caught on the hop with the speed of events in kabul and elsewhere in afghanistan last weekend. now they are having to react quickly to what we are seeing on the ground. we have heard from

the american president overnight that there might be scope for flexibility about how long they keep some troops on the ground and ben wallace told us that might shape how long the uk can maintain a presence at the airport to ensure people can get out, particularly british people but also interpreters and others who worked for british forces and now fearfor worked for british forces and now fear for their lives. statistics from ben wallace worth reflecting on. 115 people and their families on the plane taking off now from kabul, 138 on the next flight. between seven and ten planes a day. lots of those, families of interpreters working for british forces. this is a nugget from the conversation. the timetable was the existing timetable done during may this year when the

americans said. i done during may this year when the americans said.— done during may this year when the americans said. i think the key here is thins americans said. i think the key here is things are — americans said. i think the key here is things are changing _ americans said. i think the key here is things are changing rapidly. - americans said. i think the key here is things are changing rapidly. that | is things are changing rapidly. that is things are changing rapidly. that is why— is things are changing rapidly. that is why to _ is things are changing rapidly. that is why to me every hour counts and why i_ is why to me every hour counts and why i am _ is why to me every hour counts and why i am putting in another company of soldiers _ why i am putting in another company of soldiers today to help with public — of soldiers today to help with public order to get it through. and if we _ public order to get it through. and if we are _ public order to get it through. and if we are allowed to stay longer, we can stay— if we are allowed to stay longer, we can stay longer, that is a real benefit — can stay longer, that is a real benefit to— can stay longer, that is a real benefit to us all.— can stay longer, that is a real benefit to us all. ben wallace the defence secretary. _ benefit to us all. ben wallace the defence secretary. the _ benefit to us all. ben wallace the defence secretary. the foreign i defence secretary. the foreign secretary is on the front pages of some papers. labour saying he is guilty of dereliction of duty. this is the front _ guilty of dereliction of duty. this is the front page _ guilty of dereliction of duty. this is the front page of _ guilty of dereliction of duty. ti 3 is the front page of the daily mail. it not only established dominic raab is doing what many do in august which is go on holiday. he was at a posh resort in crete. crucially, the foreign office asked him last friday, two days before the fall of kabul, to ring his opposite number

in afghanistan to talk about getting interpreters out of kabul given of the imminent threat then that the taliban would soon be arriving in the capital. did the phone call happen? no. it would appear someone in the foreign office was sufficiently irritated and decided to tell the daily mail about it. the foreign secretary said he made calls from his hotel room. ben wallace telling us he did not think the phone call on friday would have made much difference but another example ofjust how caught on the hop the government here was by events in afghanistan. meanwhile, for those still in afghanistan, the reality of life under taliban rule is becoming clearer. earlier we got the latest from secunder kermani in kabul. we just heard a heavy burst of gunfire that seems to have gone quiet now. we are waiting for details

as to what happened but it was heavier than anything we have heard over the past 24 hours from our location. in the rest of the city, there are two different scenes. chaos continuing at the airport, where hundreds, thousands of people probably, have been camped out, trying to get inside, desperate to leave. elsewhere in the city, aside from the burst of gunfire, thing seem calmer. more shops and restaurants opening up than in previous days and more people coming out and about and banks are closed, as are many government offices. we are seeing fewer women on the streets. you do see some. not necessarily wearing the burqa most people closely associate with the taliban's last stint in power in the 905. things

are returning to normal but still deep uncertainty. president biden has also said us troops will stay in afghanistan, beyond the end of the month. in an interview with abc news, the us president once again defended the decision to withdraw us troops, in5isting there wasn't a way for them to leave "without chao5 ensuing". so americans should understand the troops might have to be - there beyond august the 3ist? no, americans will understand that we are going to try to get it done before august the 31st. but if we don't, - the troops will stay? if we don't, we will determine at the time who is left. and? — and if there are american forc... if there are american citizens left, we are going to stay until we get them all out. the largest survey of covid infection in the uk has found that both the pfizer and astrazeneca vaccines are still offering good protection against the delta variant.

the research led by oxford university suggests that while the pfizerjab works best initially, both are equally effective in the long term. our health correspondent naomi grimley reports. for months, the office for national statistics, in partnership with oxford university, has been asking hundreds of thousands of us to do 5wabs for their research. unlike other studies, which have looked at how effective vaccines are at keeping people out of hospital, this one has looked at how good they are at preventing any infection with the delta variant. to begin with, the effectiveness of the pfizerjab appears to be better than the oxford astrazeneca one, but, after 4—5 months, pfizer's effectiveness seems to decline faster. we are talking about effectiveness against infection or mild disea5e not serious hospitalisation type disea5e against which both vaccines

are highly effective once you have had to doses. in terms of mild symptomatic illne55, this study does suggest, in the short—term, after two doses of pfizer, that is slightly higher. but it decline5 fa5t slightly higher. but it decline5 fast and becomes rather similar to the astrazeneca vaccine after a month or two. the more 5obering news is that when infection5 do occur, double—vaccinated people have the same levels of virus in their nose and throat as those who have not beenjabbed. the researchers say this shows the potential for these people to pass on the disease, even if they are protected against serious illness. the trial of american r&b singer r kelly has begun in new york. the 54—year—old is charged with sexual abuse, kidnapping and bribery — charges he denies. if found guilty, he could face between ten years and life in prison. samira hussain has the story. for r kelly's many accusers,

this federal court in brooklyn is where finally their voices may be heard. jonjelyn savage is here. for years, she has been pushing for charges against kelly. she says her daughter had been held captive by the musician. this will open some people's eye5. what we have known for the last five and a half years when we started this journey, because we knew something wasn't right and we knew that it had to stop. in those opening statements, prosecutors said kelly targeted, groomed and exploited young girls and boys for his own satisfaction. that this case was not about a celebrity who liked to party, but a sexual predator. in his defence, kelly's lawyer argued that he was the victim — the women were liar5 who misrepresented their ages and benefited from his fame and money. it is a spectacular fall from grace for one of the most successful artists of all time. once referred to as the king of r&b, if kelly is convicted on all counts, he faces ten years

to life in prison. allegations of sexual abuse are not new for kelly, but the only time he has previously faced criminal charges, back in 2008, he was acquitted. several of r kelly's alleged victims are expected to testify against him, unlike his previous trial back in 2008. and these charges are more serious, and it comes at a time in which the culture has changed. the me too movement has made it much harder for rich, famou5 abu5er5 to hide their mi5deed5. over the past few days, we've been reporting on the chaotic scenes at kabul airport, as thousands of afghan nationals try to flee their country following the taliban takeover. we can speak now to one of afghanistan's mo5t senior bu5ine55 women — ha55ina syed. she managed to leave the country on a british

military flight on monday. thanks for talking to me and joining us on the programme, how are you? thank you and for inviting b. —— inviting me. it was a terrifying and oppressive moment not only for me oppre55ive moment not only for me but all afghan people and we need the intention da5hed the international community to help us. i think it has to be done more and we can do more to help them. ihshd i think it has to be done more and we can do more to help them. and as soon as possible. _ we can do more to help them. and as soon as possible. what _ we can do more to help them. and as soon as possible. what do _ we can do more to help them. and as soon as possible. what do you - we can do more to help them. and as soon as possible. what do you need i soon as possible. what do you need to see? we — soon as possible. what do you need to see? we need _ soon as possible. what do you need to see? we need the _ soon as possible. what do you need to see? we need the airport - soon as possible. what do you need to see? we need the airport to - soon as possible. what do you need to see? we need the airport to be l to see? we need the airport to be secure because right now as i heard before. i was talking all night and morning with family, friends, afghans near the airport. the firing

is happening, the doors are closed. it is difficult for them to do anything or go anywhere. you it is difficult for them to do anything or go anywhere. you were on anything or go anywhere. you were on a fliht anything or go anywhere. you were on a fliuht on anything or go anywhere. you were on a flight on monday. _ anything or go anywhere. you were on a flight on monday. tell— anything or go anywhere. you were on a flight on monday. tell me _ anything or go anywhere. you were on a flight on monday. tell me what - a flight on monday. tell me what happened in terms of you approaching the airport and getting on that flight. the airport and getting on that fliht. ., . y the airport and getting on that fliht. ., ., , , 'i flight. fortunately, because 19 ears i flight. fortunately, because 19 years i have — flight. fortunately, because 19 years i have been _ flight. fortunately, because 19 years i have been working - flight. fortunately, because 19 years i have been working in l years i have been working in afghanistan so people know me and i had some connection. some of my family, friends, foreign friends, they helped me to get in. but when i got in i want to salute my british soldiers who helped a lot, not only me but all afghans inside. thea;r soldiers who helped a lot, not only me but all afghans inside. they are the heroes- — me but all afghans inside. they are the heroes. what _ me but all afghans inside. they are the heroes. what happened, - me but all afghans inside. they are the heroes. what happened, you i me but all afghans inside. they are i the heroes. what happened, you were at the airport, how did you get on the plane? you were known there so you could get to the airport. i got

on through _ you could get to the airport. i got on through military _ you could get to the airport. i grrt on through military vehicles. and also the military flight, including other afghans who got on. there were a lot of other afghans who wanted to be helped out. and with the help of british soldiers we got in very well. ~ ., british soldiers we got in very well. . . ,. , «i british soldiers we got in very well. . . ,. , «' . well. what were the scenes like at the airport? _ well. what were the scenes like at the airport? we — well. what were the scenes like at the airport? we spoke _ well. what were the scenes like at the airport? we spoke to - well. what were the scenes like at the airport? we spoke to the - well. what were the scenes like at. the airport? we spoke to the defence secretary earlier who said the united states military are in charge of the airport at this moment. is it organised at this moment? yes. of the airport at this moment. is it organised at this moment?- organised at this moment? yes, it was well organised. _ organised at this moment? yes, it was well organised. people - organised at this moment? yes, it was well organised. people were i was well organised. people were getting in very nicely. the main problem right now is how to get into the site, where you can go from

there to british or american military vehicles.— there to british or american military vehicles. now you are in birmingham _ military vehicles. now you are in birmingham and _ military vehicles. now you are in birmingham and isolating - military vehicles. now you are in birmingham and isolating at - military vehicles. now you are in birmingham and isolating at the | birmingham and isolating at the moment. what does life hold for you next? it moment. what does life hold for you next? ., ., , moment. what does life hold for you next? . «i , , ., moment. what does life hold for you next? . «i , ,., ,, ~y moment. what does life hold for you next? . «i , ,, i, ., next? it makes me so upset. my heart breaks because _ next? it makes me so upset. my heart breaks because you _ next? it makes me so upset. my heart breaks because you work— next? it makes me so upset. my heart breaks because you work 19, _ next? it makes me so upset. my heart breaks because you work 19, 20 - breaks because you work 19, 20 years, you work so hard to build your nation, brick by brick, every single person, men and women. we were thinking about a different future, a bright future and suddenly someone comes and takes away in one minute, that is heartbreaking. you lose everything. you have lost everything. lose everything. you have lost everything-— lose everything. you have lost eve hini. ., ., everything. the taliban has said and is doin an everything. the taliban has said and is doing an effective _ everything. the taliban has said and is doing an effective campaign - everything. the taliban has said and is doing an effective campaign to i is doing an effective campaign to say women will be educated, will ——

women will be allowed to work. does that give you comfort for women you know in afghanistan? i that give you comfort for women you know in afghanistan?— know in afghanistan? i hope they stand by their— know in afghanistan? i hope they stand by their promises - know in afghanistan? i hope they stand by their promises in - know in afghanistan? i hope they | stand by their promises in regards to women's education and rights. [30 to women's education and rights. do you think they will? time _ to women's education and rights. do you think they will? time will- to women's education and rights. do you think they will? time will tell. i you think they will? time will tell. as we say. — you think they will? time will tell. as we say, actions _ you think they will? time will tell. as we say, actions speak- you think they will? time will tell. as we say, actions speak louder. you think they will? time will tell. i as we say, actions speak louder than words. right now, it is early to say anything about the future of afghanistan.— anything about the future of afihanistan. ., «i . afghanistan. thank you so much. i wish ou afghanistan. thank you so much. i wish you well- _ councils across england are beginning preparations to house up to 20,000 afghan refugees over the next few years. more than 200 afghan nationals have already resettled in the uk since 2010. our reporter luxmy gopal has been to meet some of them, to hear their experiences.

images capturing the desperation to leave afghanistan. watching the news footage of afghans trying to flee were those who have some idea of what they are hoping to escape from. the first time the taliban came to afghanistan, they forced people, for example, praying, dressing, everything. patrees's wife zuhra and her sisters had a difficult life after her mother was widowed. living under taliban rule in the late 905 with restricted rights for women. we were not able to go to school and when you were going outside, there should be a man with you. zuhra and patrees moved to the uk with their two children just under a decade ago. i'm secure here, and safe here because in afghanistan, when you wanted to go to the office, you are not sure if you would reach the office alive.

because there were many suicide attacks and the situation was really bad. can you remember what it was like adjusting when you arrived here? i didn't really understand the - language, and it took me a while. i was a bit naughty at school- because when they talked nicely i thought they were shouting. adjusting to a new life brought challenges for the adults as well. despite having high positions and salaries working at international organisations in afghanistan, all zuhra and patrees could get in the uk were part—time jobs in a shop or volunteering. i was thinking that when i go there, because i already have education and qualifications, it will be easy for me to find a job. unfortunately when i applied for severaljobs, they say, you don't have the experience of working here. when there was a cleaning job, they were asking me, would you like to apply for thatjob? and they know my background and everything. so it was hurting you. for hameeda hassani, current developments in afghanistan bringing back difficult memories

of her own childhood there, until her father moved to the uk in early 2000 as an asylum seeker. i don't remember much about what happened at that time, but all i know is that my father wasn't safe there and he had to escape. she arrived in the country as a 13—year—old who couldn't speak english. it was a bit difficult at the start, especially being a muslim girl and going to school, not knowing the language, the culture, the environment. i think i did face a lot of challenges in terms of bullies calling me names, and, "go back to your country". the opportunity ofjust going to school was a big thing for me. so there was nothing to stop me. she studied law at university and is now working at a solicitors, training to be a lawyer. zuhra and patrees have started again with training as well. she is in herfinal year of a nursing degree, and he's training to be a health assistant. and their children are very much settled. what's your advice to other children coming here from afghanistan to help

them adjust in the future? don't be, don't be scared to ask questions if you don't understand something. his family, there is no one to take care of them at the moment. now their attention has turned to patrees's father, disabled and still in afghanistan. one of the many people wanting to get out of the country. the uk government has pledged to resettle 5000 afghan refugees here in the first year. tim is from a charity that helps refugees with issues they face when they arrive. how to orientate themselves in the local area, how to get their children settled into school, how to start thinking about getting work, developing their language skills and processing the trauma of being in exile. he welcomes the government's response but says more is needed. the ideal response from the government is a resettlement programme of about 20,000 across two years, 10,000 in each year, plus some kind of additional

evacuation programme that simply temporarily brings people to safety. without necessarily putting them on a full resettlement programme. driven from their motherland years ago, these families now watch others face the same fate. luxmy gopal, bbc news. there is the experiences of refugees over the past decade. what about those to come? we'rejoined now byjames jamieson, the chair of the local government association. councils working together to try to come up with a strategy. what is the current situation? what are local authority is doing to prepare? irate authority is doing to prepare? we have all authority is doing to prepare? 2 have all been affected by tragic scenes. councils across the country want to step up and help and want to resettle these people who have been helping us. we need to help them.

but it is a fast moving situation, so we are trying to prepare and look at where we can house people. as yet, until people get on a plane, you do not know who is coming. is that the greatest challenge at the moment, the speed of having to deal with this, the suddenness? irate moment, the speed of having to deal with this, the suddenness?— with this, the suddenness? we very successfully — with this, the suddenness? we very successfully rehoused _ with this, the suddenness? we very successfully rehoused 20,000 - with this, the suddenness? we very. successfully rehoused 20,000 syrian refugees over five years. we are now going to do this at a different pace. that is the difficulty. when you look at things, a lot of groups coming over our large families so we need large homes, four, five bedrooms, which are harder to source, particularly if you have to source, particularly if you have to source them overnight. councils are up source them overnight. councils are up for this and will find pragmatic solutions. not necessarily ideal from day one, but we want to do it and we'll do it.—

and we'll do it. how is the responsibility _ and we'll do it. how is the responsibility shared - and we'll do it. how is the i responsibility shared across and we'll do it. how is the - responsibility shared across the country to ensure councils deal with this equally and it does not fall to a couple? irate this equally and it does not fall to a cou-le? ~ ., this equally and it does not fall to a cou-le? . ., ., this equally and it does not fall to a cou-le? ., ., ':: :: this equally and it does not fall to acou-le? ., ., ':::: . , a couple? we have over 100 councils volunteering- — a couple? we have over 100 councils volunteering. that _ a couple? we have over 100 councils volunteering. that is _ a couple? we have over 100 councils volunteering. that is not _ a couple? we have over 100 councils volunteering. that is not the - a couple? we have over 100 councils volunteering. that is not the issue i volunteering. that is not the issue of people not so to speak putting up their hands. clearly, there are councils in different positions. there are many asylum seekers from elsewhere and some councils have very high numbers of those. clearly, you would not necessarily expect them to participate at the same extent. there will be variance, but i am pleased, as i talk to councils across the country, i have not heard from one that has not said we recognise we need to step up and help. recognise we need to step up and heli. ., ., , , , help. you mention the pressure findini help. you mention the pressure finding the _ help. you mention the pressure finding the right _ help. you mention the pressure| finding the right accommodation help. you mention the pressure - finding the right accommodation but there is a lot of education, school places, mental health, trauma

support. it places, mental health, trauma su- iort. , places, mental health, trauma su--ort. , support. it is complicated. it certainly _ support. it is complicated. it certainly is- _ support. it is complicated. it certainly is. there _ support. it is complicated. it certainly is. there is - support. it is complicated. it - certainly is. there is wraparound support there you need. they are coming from a difficult environment and will have suffered trauma. language. hopefully a large number of them are families who have acted as interpreters, so hopefully that will not be as big an issue. getting them into schools, integrated. schools start in a couple of weeks. a lot of work to be done very quickly. the thing i would ask people to bear in mind, we are going to be pragmatic. we will not have the perfect solution from day one. with the syrian refugees in my authority, we tried hard to how's say three families in the same street so they had an instant network. that will be more difficult in the first instance, but it is something over time we would seek to

do. the first thing we have to do is find a safe home for people coming here and then we will start working on support, the trauma, mental health, school places. it will not all be done from day one. ihshd health, school places. it will not all be done from day one. and of course you _ all be done from day one. and of course you have _ all be done from day one. and of course you have to _ all be done from day one. and of course you have to reassure - all be done from day one. and of. course you have to reassure existing communities about added pressure on services. , �* ., communities about added pressure on services. , . . ., , services. yes. again, i am pleased the people — services. yes. again, i am pleased the people i— services. yes. again, i am pleased the people i am — services. yes. again, i am pleased the people i am speaking - services. yes. again, i am pleased the people i am speaking to - services. yes. again, i am pleased the people i am speaking to look i services. yes. again, i am pleased| the people i am speaking to look at pictures from afghanistan and they are understanding and supportive and recognise we have a duty. certainly the experience of syrian refugees was there was a great acceptance we needed to do this. i am confident we are not going to get any form of disquiet around that.— you are watching bbc breakfast. still to come.

nick knowles has joined nick knowles hasjoined channel five for the big house clear out and will help families fall back in love with their homes and get rid of the clutter. we will get him in the studio to sort us out. i think we are pretty neat at the moment. you are more tidy than i am. he has left his hammer and picked up some bin bags instead. we'll have that shortly and bring you the latest news. now it's time for the weather with carol. that looks lovely behind you. good morning. some of us are starting the day with sunshine. it does not mean they will end the day with sunshine. southend—on—sea is currently 15 degrees. it is not a cold start. but once again it will be fairly cloudy for the bulk of the uk. there is sunshine this morning being pushed

eastwards. we have a weak weather fronts from the west that will cross england and wales, eradicating the brightness. behind it, more sunshine. and further showers, some of which could be heavy. northern ireland, scotland and northern england, you will see sunny breaks. but more cloud than sunshine through the day and that cloud will be thick enough for some drizzle or light to rain. temperature is 13—21. the breeze not as brisk as yesterday. this evening and overnight we hang on to showers. clear skies developing and also patchy mist and fog. by the end of the night the signs of another weather front. temperatures falling to between 9-14. the temperatures falling to between 9—14. the weather front comes into

northern ireland pushing north—eastwards. this is coming in and will be with us through the weekend. on friday, we start off on a bright note. some sunshine. any mist and fog lifting. it brings rain across northern ireland, into south—west scotland and north—west england. the second brings in heavier rain across northern ireland. the breeze picking up in the west. starting to feel humid. temperatures 13—23. on saturday, the weather front is moving faster than weather front is moving faster than we thought yesterday and will bring rain in that bit quicker. across central and eastern areas we will have clear skies to start but we are also pulling in warmer airfrom the continent so temperatures could get up continent so temperatures could get up to 25 degrees. some sunshine in central and eastern parts. the weather front to the west. bringing

rain from the west to east and getting into the london area in the afternoon. rain crossing scotland. showers in northern ireland. rain continues to cross wales. by sunday we still have the dregs of rain in the south—east of the uk but because it is coming in quicker, sunday's forecast has changed and we will see more dry weather with sunshine. but still feeling humid. more weather later. hello, this is breakfast withjon kay and naga munchetty. a record number of children and young people with eating disorders are currently waiting for treatment in england, according to nhs figures. with referrals increasing over the pandemic, the royal college of psychiatrists is warning that services are struggling, in the face of "overwhelming" demand. let's take a look at the data in more detail.

figures from nhs england show there were more than 200 under—19's waiting for urgent treatment at the end ofjune. that's up from 56 people in this age—group at the same time last year, and is the highest total since records began five years ago. there were also nearly 2,000 patients waiting for routine treatment at the end ofjune. that's more than four times the number at the same time last year. we can discuss this in more detail now with eating disorder campaigner, hope virgo. good morning, thank you for coming in. those are stark figures. yes. in. those are stark figures. yes, but the reality _ in. those are stark figures. yes, but the reality is, _ in. those are stark figures. yes, but the reality is, this _ in. those are stark figures. yes, but the reality is, this is - but the reality is, this is happening every single day. although it takes a report to make the headlines, i'm seeing this first hand, hearing stories all the time from young people who are struggling to access any kind of treatment in any kind of support. and it feels quite scary at that moment in the

midst of treatment. 50 quite scary at that moment in the midst of treatment.— quite scary at that moment in the midst of treatment. so what happens at the moment? _ midst of treatment. so what happens at the moment? a _ midst of treatment. so what happens at the moment? a young _ midst of treatment. so what happens at the moment? a young person - at the moment? a young person presents difficulties, the family concerned, they need help. so what happens, and what isn't happening? at the moment what we tend to suggest is people go straight to their gp. what tends to happen in that moment, because there is a sheer overwhelming of the services at the moment, people are not getting the referrals they need. ihshd getting the referrals they need. and often beini getting the referrals they need. and often being seen, having that initial triage consultation on the phone? initial triage consultation on the ihone? , . , ., , phone? yes, which is really challenging _ phone? yes, which is really challenging because - phone? yes, which is really challenging because you i phone? yes, which is really i challenging because you have phone? yes, which is really _ challenging because you have someone who is already quite uncertain, about what it's going on. and eating disorders carry a lot of guilt when you reach out for the initial consult, and young people are being told that they are not the right body weight, so they are being turned away. we body weight, so they are being turned away-—

body weight, so they are being turned awa . . ., ., «i turned away. we would never talk about weight _ turned away. we would never talk about weight on _ turned away. we would never talk about weight on this _ turned away. we would never talk about weight on this programme i turned away. we would never talk- about weight on this programme when it comes to any kind of eating disorder, but if someone is not sitting going, they are not —— to thin, whatever their bmi says, it's very difficult for a family to push back whatever the guidelines. it is frustratini back whatever the guidelines. it 3 frustrating with guidance because the guidance is that you should not be looking at bmi but there is a with that criteria, and those assumptions we make. we need to realise that eating disorders are not always visible. people can struggle at any size or shape. statistically only 6% of people with an eating disorder are underweight. we get fixated on that white emaciated teenage girl which is wrong on so many levels. to what extent has — wrong on so many levels. to what extent has the _ wrong on so many levels. to what extent has the pandemic - wrong on so many levels. to what extent has the pandemic caused l wrong on so many levels. to what i extent has the pandemic caused the additional mental health pressure which then raises itself in some people in eating disorders? how much is the pandemic to blame for some of this rise? �* ., , , is the pandemic to blame for some of this rise? �* . , , .,, ., this rise? arguably it has an increase in _ this rise? arguably it has an

increase in people - this rise? arguably it has an i increase in people struggling, this rise? arguably it has an - increase in people struggling, but i don't ever want to put full blame on it. we have seen over the last year a huge increase with regards to the uncertainty and the isolation, people finding other ways to numb the control. eating disorders were around way before the pandemic and the government need to stop hiding behind the pandemic and think, we need to be properly investing into services if we are going to tackle this moving forward. ihihd services if we are going to tackle this moving forward.— this moving forward. and the government _ this moving forward. and the government has _ this moving forward. and the government has given - this moving forward. and the government has given us - this moving forward. and the government has given us a i this moving forward. and the - government has given us a statement saying, eating disorders can have a devastating impact on individuals and theirfamilies and devastating impact on individuals and their families and we know devastating impact on individuals and theirfamilies and we know nhs eating disorder services have had an increase during the pandemic. we are committed to ensure that young people do not suffer in silent and those who need help. they speak about £79 million invested in children's mental health support services. it says it recognises early intervention and treatment is

vital. the problem is, is it available?— vital. the problem is, is it available? . , , available? that is the big question, we are seeing _ available? that is the big question, we are seeing more _ available? that is the big question, we are seeing more people - available? that is the big question, we are seeing more people talking| we are seeing more people talking about it, but it takes reports like this to take it out into the open. like i said at the start, this is happening all the time. i had a call this week with a parent whose child is set in a general hospital because there is no support out there for there is no support out there for the child. it's heartbreaking to hear these stories and unless we get an immediate injection of funding into services, we are going to be playing catch—up for such a long time. playing catch-up for such a long time. �* ., , �* ., time. and funding doesn't end with a money drops — time. and funding doesn't end with a money drops come _ time. and funding doesn't end with a money drops come because - time. and funding doesn't end with a money drops come because then - time. and funding doesn't end with a money drops come because then you have to do the training and the expertise and it takes a while. so this is serious and long—term. it’s this is serious and long-term. it's a huie this is serious and long—term. it�*s a huge issue. part of the work that i'm doing, the campaigning work that i'm doing, the campaigning work that i do, i have set up a coalition and within that we are looking at completely reforming eating disorder treatment. haifa completely reforming eating disorder treatment. ., ., ., treatment. how would you do it if ou are treatment. how would you do it if you are in — treatment. how would you do it if you are in charge? _ treatment. how would you do it if you are in charge? good - treatment. how would you do it if| you are in charge? good question! treatment. how would you do it if i you are in charge? good question! i

think for me it would be first tackling the misconceptions of eating disorders, making sure that regardless of what size or shape you are, you can get immediate access, whether you have got anorexia or binge eating disorder, we need to treat every type of eating disorder. i would then be looking at the whole family making sure they are all getting support, bringing in some kind of screening for gps, whether thatis kind of screening for gps, whether that is in accident and emergency, we know the people i didn't up there and not getting —— we know the people are ending up there and not getting the referrals. no fault of the a&e who are doing a greatjob, but they need the support. iitritheit but they need the support. what would ou but they need the support. what would you say — but they need the support. what would you say to _ but they need the support. what would you say to someone - but they need the support. what would you say to someone who thinks that someone in the family is suffering _ that someone in the family is suffering but doesn't really understand what is happening? at understand what is happening? ai first, understand what is happening? first, go to understand what is happening? git first, go to your gp and try to have a conversation about what is going

on. and then nominate a few people that you feel you can have an honest conversation with. i always feel that having an e—mail written is always good. there are some fantastic organisations out there for parents and other supporters, and i think so often with eating disorders the is such isolation, —— there is such isolation, and you think you are doing something wrong. so seeing and thinking that you are not alone in this, i think that everyone can make a full recovery and hanging on to that is key. ii and hanging on to that is key. if the numbers have increased by the numbers we have seen, those charities will be under massive pressure. charities will be under massive iressure. ., , charities will be under massive iressure. . , ., ., ,, _ pressure. that is another issue by itself, not — pressure. that is another issue by itself. notjust _ pressure. that is another issue by itself, not just to _ pressure. that is another issue by itself, notjust to make _ pressure. that is another issue by itself, notjust to make sure - pressure. that is another issue by itself, notjust to make sure thatl itself, notjust to make sure that they are meeting the demand, but making sure that their staff and employees are getting mental health support as well. employees are getting mental health support as well-— support as well. thank you so much for talkini

support as well. thank you so much for talking to _ support as well. thank you so much for talking to us _ support as well. thank you so much for talking to us this _ support as well. thank you so much for talking to us this morning. - this summer, thousands of tourists flocked to hotspots across the uk, often renting short—term holiday lets. maybe not so hot! what happens if you decide to stay a bit longer? but, concerns have been raised about the amount of homes that then sit empty for the majority of the year with one mp labelling it a "housing emergency". our reporter matt graveling is in windermere for us this morning. because of its beauty, it's like a victim of its own beauty. good morning. most people working here in the hospitality industry cannot afford house prices here.

what does it mean to the local community? i have been speaking to some people here. come on, come on. it's notjust humans who enjoy a little time in the country. it's an amazing job, and i tell you what, i wouldn't do anything else. i absolutely love it. but for dog walker brian, this peaceful paradise comes at a cost. the price of properties have almost trebled in the last five years. i'm in a bit of a struggle at the moment with having to come back to live with my parents due to being priced out of properties. affordable houses in brian's hometown of keswick are scarce. nearly half are now holiday lets or second homes. elsewhere, over in wales, authorities in the county of gwynedd have introduced a 100% council tax premium on additional properties that are not a main residence. something some believe is unfair. we feel very, very discriminated against.

there isn't an issue more important to us at the moment than this. to sort of say, you are in an identical house to somebody next door but you are having to pay 200% counciltax, or300%, is discrimination. back in the lakes, i spoke to local mp tim farron. he's launched a petition asking the government to change planning laws to give local authorities more powers to control the number of second homes and holiday lets. talking to a couple, just a few weeks ago, who paid £650 a month for a small flat above a shop in lovely ambleside. their children go to the local school, they both work in the hospitality industry. and they were served notice to quit, they have quit and they discover that that small two bedroom flat above a shop is now on the market for £1000 a week as a holiday let.

jeanette has lived in the lakes for 58 years. long serving secretary of the ambleside rugby club, she says, as the people leave, so do local amenities and teams. we did have a period of three years where we didn't play at all, because we didn't have a team. because we've got so many people now living in the area, who are not local, they haven't got the interest. so you hear, it's notjust a problem here in the lake district, but the water behind me will be full of tourists later today, coming here for a day on the water to enjoy this view. i should say the government have told us that they have introduced a series of measures to help mitigate against the impact second hand can have on some areas, including a higher rate of stamp duty for buyers of second homes and

delivered more than half a million affordable homes and they will invest £12 million over the next five years. let's talk to a local lady who has really made this issue her passion, her mission, she got an mbe for it. you have been here your whole life, is it getting worse? i think it is getting worse. i know my community very well, i analysed all the young people, we did surveys and set up a community housing group. and since then, we have built or encouraged planners to help young people build their own and had 64 houses. the trust, which has been going since 1937, i have been a trustee, and in recent years, in fact in the last two years, we have had nine houses are left to us in a wheel because people recognise what was happening to their community.

you told me before he we came on the air, you follow the births in the local area very closely to see how people will need houses going forward. it sounds close to your heart. we are keen to point out this is about balance, this isn't about local people against tourists. it certainly isn't, we need holiday homes, we have always said that. it's about keeping the balance. i think 55% or 60% is right, that help the economy, jobs young people, so it's about keeping that balance. i did a survey, and one of the villages was 80%, and that was ten years ago. villages was 80%, and that was ten ears an. ., ~' villages was 80%, and that was ten ears an. . «i i. villages was 80%, and that was ten earsan. ., y villages was 80%, and that was ten earsan. ., , . , years ago. thank you very much. this iroblem is years ago. thank you very much. this problem is getting — years ago. thank you very much. this problem is getting worse. _ years ago. thank you very much. this problem is getting worse. she - years ago. thank you very much. this problem is getting worse. she says i problem is getting worse. she says she gets ten people applying for every house that she has, who are under the strict criteria of being local. she believes the government

could be doing a little more regarding taxation on second homes to solve this growing problem. thank you very much, beautiful view there in the lake district. a new, big—money bid is expected within hours for the supermarket chain morrisons. ben's got all the details on the takeover battle going on. it has so much to offer in terms of real estate and the business. yes. it has so much to offer in terms of real estate and the business. yes, a bii battle real estate and the business. yes, a big battle drawing _ real estate and the business. yes, a big battle drawing to _ real estate and the business. yes, a big battle drawing to its _ real estate and the business. yes, a big battle drawing to its final - big battle drawing to its final hours, we are expecting some of the bidders to up their final offer. it could determine the future of our fourth largest supermarket. as one commentator put it, you wait more than a century for a takeover bid and then three arrive all at once. so what's going on? well, back injune, morrisons turned down a £55 billion offer from an american finance company called clayton, dubilier & rice. they used to own b&m bargains. they also run a number of petrol stations here in the uk and are getting advice on their takeover plans

from the former boss of tesco's. that sparked a bidding war and last month anotherfinance group entered the fray. it offered more than £6 billion. fortress as it's known runs majestic wine. that bid was accepted and it looked like a done deal, if shareholders agreed. but then another potential buyer, apollo — joined the battle. that prompted fortress to raise their offer again. so all eyes are now back on the original bidder to see if they up their bid too. it's all a far cry from morrisons very humble beginnings. here's where it all began. a market stall in bradford in 1899, selling eggs and butter. it was run by a mr william morrison. that still became a small shopper to more than half a century, very

little else changed.— more than half a century, very little else changed. morris and had stores in the _ little else changed. morris and had stores in the north _ little else changed. morris and had stores in the north of— little else changed. morris and had stores in the north of england. - little else changed. morris and had stores in the north of england. in i stores in the north of england. in 2004, it bought its rival safeway for £3 billion. it gave morrisons a bigger slice of the market in the south. the merger was not an easy marriage butjoining forces made morrisons the uk's fourth biggest supermarket. for more than half a century, morrisons was run by this man, ken morrison, son of the store's original founder. and his approach to retail was simple. what we're trying to do here is recreate the atmosphere in a market, which really is a little touch of nostalgia, where you can choose your fish, you can look at it. just like fish markets used to be in the old days. but ultimately, for him, it all came down to price. you want to know what a bogof is, well, i'll tell you. it's buy one, get one free. greatly appreciated by all the shopping public. here we go. twice the quantity, same price.

under his watch, morrisons became a jewel in the crown of british retail. he died in 2017 at the age of 85. you might wonder quite what he would make of all the fuss. so what's sparked this sudden bidding war? morrisons like other supermarkets has been counting the cost of the pandemic. in march it announced that profits had halved. morrisons is also very different from other supermarkets as it owns a lot of its suppliers, factories, farms and the stores themselves. that's particularly attractive to investment firms like the ones bidding for morrisons because they can sell many of these off to raise cash and then rent them back. the company employs more than 100,000 staff and unions are quite worried about what any takeover could mean for them. there's always nervousness about deals like this. both the bidders are currently trying to convince the bosses and shareholders that they would be best suited to take on the morrisons

"market stall" legacy. it's not just about it's notjust about cutting costs and raising profits. we will find out soon if the money on offer will go up. if not shareholders will vote on the latest bid. we'll keep you updated. over the past 18—months we've all been spending more time at home, doing more online shopping and probably accumulating more and more clutter. someone that might be able to help is tv presenter and diy guru nick knowles. have you been doing that? definitely, not throwing stuff away, just more and more things. have you not? ., just more and more things. have you not? ha. you are quite minimalist not? no. you are quite minimalist and not? hp. you are quite minimalist and restrained. not? no. you are quite minimalist and restrained. nick— not? no. you are quite minimalist and restrained. nick nels - not? no. you are quite minimalist and restrained. nick nels is - not? no. you are quite minimalist and restrained. nick nels is with i not? no. you are quite minimalistl and restrained. nick nels is with us and restrained. nick nels is with us and laughing- _ and restrained. nick nels is with us and laughing- i— and restrained. nick nels is with us and laughing. i can _ and restrained. nick nels is with us and laughing. i can tell— and restrained. nick nels is with us and laughing. i can tell you, - and restrained. nick nels is with us and laughing. i can tell you, she's. and laughing. i can tell you, she's not restrained! _ and laughing. i can tell you, she's

not restrained! she _ and laughing. i can tell you, she's not restrained! she should - and laughing. i can tell you, she's not restrained! she should be - not restrained! she should be constrained! _ not restrained! she should be constrained! i— not restrained! she should be constrained! i don't _ not restrained! she should be constrained! i don't do - not restrained! she should be| constrained! i don't do clutter. not restrained! she should be - constrained! i don't do clutter. you haven't ordered _ constrained! i don't do clutter. you haven't ordered lots _ constrained! i don't do clutter. you haven't ordered lots of _ constrained! i don't do clutter. you haven't ordered lots of stuff - constrained! i don't do clutter. you haven't ordered lots of stuff during j haven't ordered lots of stuff during the pandemic? no. i'm very organised. _ the pandemic? no. i'm very organised. i— the pandemic? no. i'm very organised, iwill— the pandemic? hp. i'm very organised, i will buy things in advance — organised, i will buy things in advance and keep them organised. i feel like _ advance and keep them organised. i feel like i_ advance and keep them organised. i feel like i have interrupted your link _ feel like i have interrupted your link. i ~' feel like i have interrupted your link. i, ,, , link. nick knowles is here, helping us with people _ link. nick knowles is here, helping us with people who _ link. nick knowles is here, helping us with people who are _ link. nick knowles is here, helping us with people who are holding - link. nick knowles is here, helping i us with people who are holding their stuff. b. us with people who are holding their stuff. �* i, i, , i, , us with people who are holding their stuff. �* i, i, , i, us with people who are holding their stuff. i, i, , i, , stuff. a lot of people have been siendini stuff. a lot of people have been spending more _ stuff. a lot of people have been spending more time _ stuff. a lot of people have been spending more time in - stuff. a lot of people have been spending more time in their- stuff. a lot of people have been - spending more time in their homes, and it— spending more time in their homes, and it has— spending more time in their homes, and it has brought it to peoples attention— and it has brought it to peoples attention how much stuff they have gathered _ attention how much stuff they have gathered. we talk about people hoarding, but it's lots of reasons why people's homes get full of clutter, — why people's homes get full of clutter, and it can be psychological reasons _ clutter, and it can be psychological reasons it — clutter, and it can be psychological reasons. it could be that your childhood _ reasons. it could be that your childhood was in a very busy home, or you _ childhood was in a very busy home, or you have — childhood was in a very busy home, or you have stuff from your childhood which was a happy time, you attach — childhood which was a happy time, you attach memories to things, if one of— you attach memories to things, if one of your— you attach memories to things, if

one of your children was ill when they are — one of your children was ill when they are younger, you hang on to everythind — they are younger, you hang on to everything. we have all got pictures from our— everything. we have all got pictures from our kids on the fridge but some people _ from our kids on the fridge but some people keep everything and you can iet people keep everything and you can get into— people keep everything and you can get into psychological loop. | people keep everything and you can get into psychological loop. i have seen the first _ get into psychological loop. i have seen the first one _ get into psychological loop. i have seen the first one coming - get into psychological loop. i have seen the first one coming out, - get into psychological loop. i have | seen the first one coming out, and the psychology will be very clear. sometimes clutter is what people need to get through life. let’s sometimes clutter is what people need to get through life. let's have a look at it- — life at home could be so much better. homes across britain looking fine on the outside, but, secretly, they are drowning on the inside. why is there an enormous great gazebo in the living room? can i just say wow! homes, people, lives crushed by loads of stuff. i close it very quickly, like that. because everything you can see is from your house. no way! if they can pare down a lifetime of possessions, in return, we will give them their home of their dreams with a total makeover from top to bottom. oh, my god.

oh, oh. these are definitely happy tears. radical transformations that will change not just their homes, but their lives. how did we do? amazingly. i'm in love with my house. you were messing up the house again! that's in a warehouse, we take all of the _ that's in a warehouse, we take all of the stuff— that's in a warehouse, we take all of the stuff and put it in a warehouse so you can see how much stuff _ warehouse so you can see how much stuff. people have got piles and piles _ stuff. people have got piles and piles of— stuff. people have got piles and piles of things. i did this myself three _ piles of things. i did this myself three and — piles of things. i did this myself three and a half years ago, i went from _ three and a half years ago, i went from a _ three and a half years ago, i went from a big — three and a half years ago, i went from a big house in london, suddenly realised _ from a big house in london, suddenly realised i_ from a big house in london, suddenly realised i didn't know what was in most _ realised i didn't know what was in most of— realised i didn't know what was in most of the rooms. i now live in a tiny cottage — most of the rooms. i now live in a tiny cottage in the countryside, i threw— tiny cottage in the countryside, i threw away 85% of my possessions, all of _ threw away 85% of my possessions, all of the _ threw away 85% of my possessions, all of the work i had done over the years, _ all of the work i had done over the years, all— all of the work i had done over the years, all of— all of the work i had done over the years, all of the mementos. how difficult was _ years, all of the mementos. how difficult was it _ years, all of the mementos. how difficult was it to _ years, all of the mementos. how difficult was it to do? _ years, all of the mementos. how difficult was it to do? difficult i years, all of the mementos. how difficult was it to do? difficult to | difficult was it to do? difficult to iet difficult was it to do? difficult to get started. _ difficult was it to do? difficult to get started, but _ difficult was it to do? difficult to get started, but once _ difficult was it to do? difficult to get started, but once it - difficult was it to do? difficult to get started, but once it was - difficult was it to do? difficult to | get started, but once it was done difficult was it to do? difficult to i get started, but once it was done it was brilliant. if you hang onto all

that stuff— was brilliant. if you hang onto all that stuff because are memories, they get— that stuff because are memories, they get on the way of making new memories — they get on the way of making new memories. you get people with houses full of— memories. you get people with houses full of stuff, _ memories. you get people with houses full of stuff, mementos from when the children were young, and the teenagers — the children were young, and the teenagers don't want to come downstairs any more because the rooms— downstairs any more because the rooms are — downstairs any more because the rooms are full of stuff. it�*s downstairs any more because the rooms are full of stuff.— rooms are full of stuff. it's not 'ust, let rooms are full of stuff. it's not just. let me — rooms are full of stuff. it's not just. let me go _ rooms are full of stuff. it's not just, let me go in _ rooms are full of stuff. it's not just, let me go in and - rooms are full of stuff. it's not just, let me go in and tidy - rooms are full of stuff. it's not just, let me go in and tidy up, | rooms are full of stuff. it's not - just, let me go in and tidy up, you go in and see how the family is using the house.— go in and see how the family is using the house. go in and see how the family is usini the house. i, i, , i, , , i, using the house. how do you use your siace? we using the house. how do you use your space? we get — using the house. how do you use your space? we get into _ using the house. how do you use your space? we get into habit _ using the house. how do you use your space? we get into habit and - using the house. how do you use your space? we get into habit and clutteri space? we get into habit and clutter things— space? we get into habit and clutter things up, _ space? we get into habit and clutter things up, living rooms are not living _ things up, living rooms are not living rooms, the kids don't have dinner— living rooms, the kids don't have dinner in— living rooms, the kids don't have dinner in their bedroom because they are teenagers, we talk to them and they say, _ are teenagers, we talk to them and they say, i'd — are teenagers, we talk to them and they say, i'd like to go downstairs but there — they say, i'd like to go downstairs but there is— they say, i'd like to go downstairs but there is no room for me because it is all— but there is no room for me because it is all the _ but there is no room for me because it is all the parents stuff. and then— it is all the parents stuff. and then the _ it is all the parents stuff. and then the parents say, how did we get here? _ then the parents say, how did we get here? the _ then the parents say, how did we get here? the big thing is, don't let the clutter— here? the big thing is, don't let the clutter in your house now stop you from — the clutter in your house now stop you from making memories with your family— you from making memories with your family at— you from making memories with your family at the time. and we say, if you get— family at the time. and we say, if you get rid — family at the time. and we say, if you get rid of at least 50% of your belongings, and then i will bring in

a guy, _ belongings, and then i will bring in a guy, one — belongings, and then i will bring in a guy, one of the best designers, he is to do— a guy, one of the best designers, he is to do changing rims, he has been behind—the—scenes designer on all of the 505s _ behind—the—scenes designer on all of the 505s in _ behind—the—scenes designer on all of the $055 in the nicest man in the world _ the $055 in the nicest man in the world he — the $055 in the nicest man in the world. he will come up with storage solutions _ world. he will come up with storage solutions. i, , i, i solutions. good that he is a nice iu , it is solutions. good that he is a nice guy, it is a _ solutions. good that he is a nice guy, it is a difficult _ solutions. good that he is a nice guy, it is a difficult process. - guy, it is a difficult process. hugely. they get angry with us. during — hugely. they get angry with us. during the process of decluttering they get _ during the process of decluttering they get angry with themselves, each other, _ they get angry with themselves, each other, with _ they get angry with themselves, each other, with ous. it's quite a tough thing _ other, with ous. it's quite a tough thing to— other, with ous. it's quite a tough thing to do — other, with ous. it's quite a tough thing to do. but we are talking about— thing to do. but we are talking about -- — thing to do. but we are talking about —— they get angry with us. you're _ about —— they get angry with us. you're talking about 30 years of learned — you're talking about 30 years of learned behaviour trying to break. but if _ learned behaviour trying to break. but if you — learned behaviour trying to break. but if you don't do something about it, you _ but if you don't do something about it, you can— but if you don't do something about it, you can see the signs of the teenagers _ it, you can see the signs of the teenagers are starting to hoard as well and _ teenagers are starting to hoard as well and hang onto stuff. there's many— well and hang onto stuff. there's many reasons why people might do this. i i, �* , , , many reasons why people might do this. i i, �*, , , this. what's interesting is, the way it is so much _ this. what's interesting is, the way it is so much more _ this. what's interesting is, the way it is so much more than _ this. what's interesting is, the way it is so much more than what - this. what's interesting is, the way it is so much more than what you i this. what's interesting is, the way i it is so much more than what you are seeing there. it's those little relationships, like you are

explaining, the children being in bedrooms eating their dinner, it can revitalise relationships or completely reset them as well, when you have a reset in your home. it really can. you are always wary when you make _ really can. you are always wary when you make tv — really can. you are always wary when you make tv programmes that claims it makes— you make tv programmes that claims it makes a _ you make tv programmes that claims it makes a difference because tv does _ it makes a difference because tv does that— it makes a difference because tv does that a lot and it very rarely does _ does that a lot and it very rarely does the — does that a lot and it very rarely does. the truth is here you have parents — does. the truth is here you have parents saying, this is a whole new beginning — parents saying, this is a whole new beginning for us. families say, i will spend — beginning for us. families say, i will spend more time together. people — will spend more time together. people say, this will give me an opportunity to get away from the kitchen _ opportunity to get away from the kitchen or — opportunity to get away from the kitchen or from the family and have a space _ kitchen or from the family and have a space to — kitchen or from the family and have a space to sit on my own, space to be together— a space to sit on my own, space to be together and space to be a part, these _ be together and space to be a part, these are _ be together and space to be a part, these are really important things. most— these are really important things. most houses can be redesigned. | most houses can be redesigned. thought most houses can be redesigned. i thought you were going to tidy us up. thought you were going to tidy us u i. thought you were going to tidy us u i _ , ., thought you were going to tidy us ui, , ., i, thought you were going to tidy us u i _ , ., i, i, thought you were going to tidy us u i. , i, i, i, , « thought you were going to tidy us up. there is a lot of stuff behind the sofa. the _ up. there is a lot of stuff behind the sofa. the food _ up. there is a lot of stuff behind the sofa. the food cartoons, - up. there is a lot of stuff behind i the sofa. the food cartoons, good irief! you the sofa. the food cartoons, good grief! you say _ the sofa. the food cartoons, good grief! you say tv _ the sofa. the food cartoons, good grief! you say tv does _ the sofa. the food cartoons, good grief! you say tv does make - the sofa. the food cartoons, good grief! you say tv does make a - grief! you say tv does make a difference _ grief! you say tv does make a difference but _ grief! you say tv does make a difference but some _ grief! you say tv does make a difference but some of- grief! you say tv does make a difference but some of your i grief! you say tv does make a i difference but some of your work over the last few years, —— doesn't make a difference, but some of your work has really made a difference.

particularly working with veterans, diy sos, you have had some difficult conversations over the last few days regarding afghanistan. irate conversations over the last few days regarding afghanistan.— regarding afghanistan. we built a street in manchester _ regarding afghanistan. we built a street in manchester with - regarding afghanistan. we built a i street in manchester with veterans, and we work with groups that work with veterans. amazing charities that are doing incredible work with veterans, dealing with a lot of the problems that veterans face. i should make this point, not all that find themselves in difficulty but those that do, there are too many suicides in the veteran community, there have been to many suicides from people coming back from afghanistan and iraq. this latest news puts even more pressure on our veterans, and a lot of people are on a watch. and ijust want to say, if you don't mind me saying, if you are a veteran and finding this cult, get in contact with one of the charities i have —— finding this difficult, getting contact with charities.

there are people you can talk to. it's a really tough time, you are questioning everything you went through, everything your mates went through. talk to someone. just those ima i es through. talk to someone. just those imaies on through. talk to someone. just those images on the _ through. talk to someone. just those images on the tv _ through. talk to someone. just those images on the tv news, _ through. talk to someone. just those images on the tv news, somewhere i through. talk to someone. just those i images on the tv news, somewhere you have been. i, �* , i, i, have been. i don't understand how we never learn — have been. i don't understand how we never learn our _ have been. i don't understand how we never learn our lessons _ have been. i don't understand how we never learn our lessons from - never learn our lessons from history. the bodies of many nations are littered over afghanistan over thousands of years. it never works out well. and we just never seem to learn our lesson. i'm not going to argue about the political reasons why we go in or whether it was the correct thing in terms of terrorism, but you have got to have some kind of exit strategy, you have got to think about the people you are sending into the front line, these young men and women, and think about the people in the country. you can only hope, when you listen to the news that is going on and coming out of afghanistan and the words that the taliban are saying, they seem to be saying the right things. you can only hope that that turns into a genuine state. i can understand why

everyone doesn't believe it. but you have got to help because otherwise, the 20 years of our men and women over there trying to create a stable society, try to have some legacy, that's the only hope we have left. the only negative comfort as well, when i have been listening and john has been reporting on veterans who worked so hard there, the work they did at the time was good, it did change lives, options were opened up, they're their work was not wasted. ii, , , i, wasted. maybe this new-found line that we are — wasted. maybe this new-found line that we are hearing _ wasted. maybe this new-found line that we are hearing from _ wasted. maybe this new-found line that we are hearing from the - that we are hearing from the taliban, if they stick to it, may be some change has been made. but if you are veteran and you are struggling, then talk to somebody because there are people who can listen. i, ., because there are people who can listen. i, «i , i, i i «i listen. thank you so much. nick knowles- _ listen. thank you so much. nick knowles- it _ listen. thank you so much. nick knowles. it is _ listen. thank you so much. nick knowles. it is on _ listen. thank you so much. nick knowles. it is on thursday - listen. thank you so much. nick

knowles. it is on thursday night listen. thank you so much. nick. knowles. it is on thursday night on channel five. this is bbc news. the latest headlines. chaos at kabul airport — even afghans with valid paperwork are struggling to get through, with checkpoints guarded by heavily armed militants. officials say 12 people have been killed in and around kabul airport since sunday. the taliban are urging people without the legal right to travel, to go home. president biden says us troops could remain in afghanistan beyond the end of august, passing his deadline for withdrawal. labour has accused the foreign secretary, dominic raab, of a dereliction of duty, after reports he declined to phone his afghan counterpart to seek help airlifting interpreters out of afghanistan. but the government has defended his actions.

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