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outside kabul airport, hoping to escape a country now in the hands of the taliban again. those who make it are still in shock at how quickly afghanistan capitulated. in the us state of tennessee rescue workers are continuing to look for dozens of people who are missing after severe flooding. at least ten people have died. more than 120,000 homes are without power across the us east coast, after tropical storm henri made landfall at rhode island. it's been downgraded from a hurricane although many residents are still concerned about a possible storm surge. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the writer and broadcaster mihir bose and the former pensions minister, conservative peer baroness ros altmann.
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bringing you up—to—date on the latest we have on the newspapers. of course, afghanistan dominates most of the front pages — the ft leads on the news that the prime minister has convened a g7 meeting of world leaders next week to discuss the ongoing situation. the daily mail reports that borisjohnson is expected to plead with president biden to extend his withdrawal deadline as fears grow that flights may be stopped within 48 hours. the telegraph also leads on that story, adding that uk forces are preparing for the possibility they will have to evacuate afghans through the country's land borders. the is front page story is the worsening tensions between british and us politicians and diplomats, afterformer prime minister tony blair described the us decision to withdraw from the country as "imbecilic". the guardian reports that the taliban have criticised the us for what it described as "anarchy" at kabul airport, suggesting that its own fighters were the only ones capable of retsoring order. meanwhile the metro focuses on the story of a british
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paratrooper who was filmed helping a baby and her mother over a wall at kabul airport to safety. so let's begin. kick us off this time, the guardian says number ten plead to biden after taliban show of strength.— taliban show of strength. yeah, i mean, basically, _ taliban show of strength. yeah, i mean, basically, what _ taliban show of strength. yeah, i mean, basically, what we - taliban show of strength. yeah, i mean, basically, what we are - taliban show of strength. yeah, i i mean, basically, what we are seeing at the moment is the us calling all the shots, and britain and other countries like france are really trying to almost begged the us to stay longer in afghanistan rather than hastily retreat before we managed to put out all our nationals and all those people who we need to evacuate because their lives are at risk. so it is actually a very worrying situation, and the preminger�*s foreign policy to some extent depended on good relationships with the us, and there seems to be a bit of a rift opening
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up seems to be a bit of a rift opening up but we hope, really helped, that america will listen to the please, notjust america will listen to the please, not just of us, america will listen to the please, notjust of us, but of other countries, major countries who are trying to get there nationals out and not leave so quickly.- trying to get there nationals out and not leave so quickly. there were hints tonight — and not leave so quickly. there were hints tonight from _ and not leave so quickly. there were hints tonight from joe _ and not leave so quickly. there were hints tonight from joe biden's - and not leave so quickly. there were hints tonight from joe biden's news | hints tonight from joe biden�*s news conference from the white house that they are at least revealing the 31st of august date. presumably, even they must realise that given ed a limited opportunities to get people out, the deadline, however politically convenient may be, is not practical on the ground. yes. not practical on the ground. yes, the ma not practical on the ground. yes, they may have — not practical on the ground. yes, they may have to... _ not practical on the ground. yes, they may have to... so _ not practical on the ground. yes, they may have to... so far, - not practical on the ground. yes, they may have to... so far, biden has been — they may have to... so far, biden has been quite severe and they stand quite determined. he want to extend the deadline. the whole thing he says from — the deadline. the whole thing he says from the us has been calling the shots — says from the us has been calling the shots from the us has always been _ the shots from the us has always been calling the shots in afghanistan. the fact is what we are faced _ afghanistan. the fact is what we are faced with _ afghanistan. the fact is what we are faced with is a humanitarian crisis
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in afghanistan created by the way the us— in afghanistan created by the way the us has managed the situation over several decades, and this is the end — over several decades, and this is the end game of what has been a very. _ the end game of what has been a very. very— the end game of what has been a very, very bad policy of going into another— very, very bad policy of going into another country and trying to do a regime _ another country and trying to do a regime change our society in getting allies in_ regime change our society in getting allies in those countries helping us and then— allies in those countries helping us and then went seems very likely abandoning men, and what this is providing — abandoning men, and what this is providing is allowing the taliban to present— providing is allowing the taliban to present this wonderful phase chemistry in the guardian that you referred _ chemistry in the guardian that you referred to, detailed anything that the airport is controlled by 5200 american — the airport is controlled by 5200 american servicemen, and they are the reason — american servicemen, and they are the reason for the cast, of course it was_ the reason for the cast, of course it was the — the reason for the cast, of course it was the taliban which is responsible for the 20 people who have died. — responsible for the 20 people who have died, but nevertheless, the tatihan— have died, but nevertheless, the taliban can present itself as doing a law— taliban can present itself as doing a law and — taliban can present itself as doing a law and order their, and is what it's to, _ a law and order their, and is what it's to, which _ a law and order their, and is what it's to, which is a really great
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tragedy— it's to, which is a really great tragedy and reflects very, very poorly, — tragedy and reflects very, very poorly, notjust on tragedy and reflects very, very poorly, not just on americans, tragedy and reflects very, very poorly, notjust on americans, but on the _ poorly, notjust on americans, but on the entire western society. it�*s on the entire western society. interesting on the entire western society. it�*s interesting to me those questions, the deadline to make your starmer has written tonight to borisjohnson on his twitter account, he had spoken personally to president biden to ask them to extend the deadline. is there a joint plan between british and the us fully completing the evacuation ahead of that deadline because? are you working with nato allies? what work is under way to extend the operation to create better passage with better policing and processing zones beyond the airport perimeter. as you say, there is an interesting story here of the taliban and being the ones arranging applications into british and american lines as it were, almost like an airport immigration control operation. the times says massive airlift to evacuate 6000 from kabul chaos and growing fears
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of suicide attacks. i suppose we have to remember there are other armed groups who are not necessarily sympathetic to the taliban and who might want to explore the opportunity to attack the western forces. ., , ., opportunity to attack the western forces. ., ,., ., .,, forces. indeed, and some of those fundamentalists _ forces. indeed, and some of those fundamentalists had _ forces. indeed, and some of those fundamentalists had said - forces. indeed, and some of those fundamentalists had said that - forces. indeed, and some of those fundamentalists had said that the | fundamentalists had said that the taiihan— fundamentalists had said that the taliban regime is not really isiarnic, _ taliban regime is not really islamic, and they don't support it, they don't— islamic, and they don't support it, they don't think of it as being radical— they don't think of it as being radical enough for their purposes. and what— radical enough for their purposes. and what they are concentrating on is that— and what they are concentrating on is that the — and what they are concentrating on is that the british who had set a deadline — is that the british who had set a deadline of their airlift ending on tuesday— deadline of their airlift ending on tuesday may extend that because of the need _ tuesday may extend that because of the need and the obligation that we all have _ the need and the obligation that we all have we all must feel of airlifting people all, and they make themselves extend it, even if the americans— themselves extend it, even if the americans don't extend 31st, they might— americans don't extend 31st, they might themselves extend the airlift operation to friday or saturday in order— operation to friday or saturday in order to — operation to friday or saturday in order to make sure that the people who he _ order to make sure that the people who be said we would take out of
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afghanistan, provide them shelter in this country because they were our allies. _ this country because they were our allies. they— this country because they were our allies, they are protected, and that is an application we should meet, and if_ is an application we should meet, and if we — is an application we should meet, and if we don't come that will be a great _ and if we don't come that will be a great shame. and if we don't come that will be a great shame-— and if we don't come that will be a great shame. this is the interesting - hoto . ra - h great shame. this is the interesting photograph on _ great shame. this is the interesting photograph on the _ great shame. this is the interesting photograph on the front _ great shame. this is the interesting photograph on the front of - great shame. this is the interesting photograph on the front of the - great shame. this is the interesting | photograph on the front of the times as well, isn't it? very powerful in age, this, and we have seen images like it, this time of a us marine trying to calm an infant that kabul airport. trying to calm an infant that kabul airort. , ., trying to calm an infant that kabul airort. , . ., airport. yes, and when of them sa in: airport. yes, and when of them saying that _ airport. yes, and when of them saying that it — airport. yes, and when of them saying that it is _ airport. yes, and when of them saying that it is heartbreaking l saying that it is heartbreaking scenes. it is pretty much impossible to imagine what those families are going through. young children being thrust into the arms of soldiers and feeling their parents fleeing for their lives. our soldiers actually are doing the most amazing work, not just fighting, not really fighting at all, but saving lives,
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humanitarian work that they haven't necessarily been trained for, and the pictures that we have seen of the pictures that we have seen of the soldier carrying a little child, and it really does bring home the human of this. theyis human of this. they is a country which has been torn by war for decades, they is a country which has been torn by warfor decades, and we they is a country which has been torn by war for decades, and we gave them hope of a peaceful and free future, and that seems to have been at the moment snuffed out, which really, ifind heartbreaking myself because so many afghans relied on us and really believed that we could help them overcome a regime that has gone back hundreds of years, you know, we have moved on in our society from the ways in which the taliban and wants to run
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afghanistan, and this is a real threat to our western way of life, and also to the standing of the west. we have our honour at stake. morality, honour, we have told people and talk to people —— talk to people and talk to people —— talk to people that freedom is something they can hope for, and it's very bitter when it seems that the staying power of the west didn't last long enough to ensure that that could really take hold. and last long enough to ensure that that could really take hold.— could really take hold. and the related plaintiff _ could really take hold. and the related plaintiff what _ could really take hold. and the related plaintiff what happensl could really take hold. and the i related plaintiff what happens to those who are getting out to, and the independents, rise, mentions the situation for existing afghanistan asylum—seekers who says are now trapped in limbo. asylum-seekers who says are now trapped in limbo.— asylum-seekers who says are now trapped in limbo. yeah, and i really ho -e that trapped in limbo. yeah, and i really hope that the _ trapped in limbo. yeah, and i really hope that the current _ trapped in limbo. yeah, and i really hope that the current policies - trapped in limbo. yeah, and i really hope that the current policies which seem to be so anti—immigration will become relaxed. we are a country
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that has benefited so much from immigration, and whether you've got people who have put their lives on the line and really want to follow our way of life, if we thrust them back or throw them out, then what does that say about the quality of our country and our values? we are also hopefully going to be setting up also hopefully going to be setting up centres which can rescue afghans who we can't airlift and we know we will not be able to airlift everyone who needs it, if they can cross the land border is to have a scheme like the vulnerable person to settlement scheme that syria started, that we started for syrian refugees, if we can do the same sort of thing for afghan refugees, lots of these people all need to have a way of life much closer to ours. that's
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what they are expecting. a lot of people who are not muslim, for example, for them to live in a sharia state, the christians out there, they really need to have a different way of life, and if we can offer that to them, i think they can bring a lot to our country as well. it's interesting again, this is something that is in the blair lesson from just touching on the question of asylum, not specifically what the independent is talking about, that your starmer letter saying rather, are we kind of looking at talking to neighbouring countries to afghanistan about people crossing the land border, and at least being processed there, even if they end up coming to britain subsequently. i’m if they end up coming to britain subsequently-— if they end up coming to britain subseuuentl . �* . . subsequently. i'm afraid i disagree with rise there, _ subsequently. i'm afraid i disagree with rise there, that _ subsequently. i'm afraid i disagree with rise there, that this _ subsequently. i'm afraid i disagree with rise there, that this idea - subsequently. i'm afraid i disagree with rise there, that this idea that| with rise there, that this idea that we can— with rise there, that this idea that we can go— with rise there, that this idea that we can go to other countries and impose — we can go to other countries and impose our— we can go to other countries and impose our ideas. no, we can't, because — impose our ideas. no, we can't, because this _ impose our ideas. no, we can't, because this is modern imperialism. itjust— because this is modern imperialism. itjust doesn't work. because this is modern imperialism. it just doesn't work. as far as shari — it just doesn't work. as far as shari a — it just doesn't work. as far as shari a lot _ it just doesn't work. as far as shari a lot is concerned, it's in
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saudi — shari a lot is concerned, it's in saudi arabia, a great ally, a very strict _ saudi arabia, a great ally, a very strict shari — saudi arabia, a great ally, a very strict shari a lot, in fact, what has _ strict shari a lot, in fact, what has happened and what this situation shows— has happened and what this situation shows is— has happened and what this situation shows is that the western policy has completely failed. who are the people — completely failed. who are the people now gloating about the taliban — people now gloating about the taliban coming back to power? they are the _ taliban coming back to power? they are the pakistan generals, and pakistan— are the pakistan generals, and pakistan is an ally of the west. pakistan— pakistan is an ally of the west. pakistan has been a country funded by america, and i think this is... but what — by america, and i think this is... but what about the women here? it�*s but what about the women here? it's not a question of the women. what gives— not a question of the women. what gives us— not a question of the women. what gives us a _ not a question of the women. what gives us a ride to go to other countries _ gives us a ride to go to other countries injuries shape these countries? what we have done in afghanistan is actually created a very corrupt regime. that's what we have created in afghanistan. we didn't have created in afghanistan. - didn't create that. have created in afghanistan. we didn't create that. and - have created in afghanistan. we didn't create that. and we - have created in afghanistan. we didn't create that. and we have | didn't create that. and we have o-ened didn't create that. and we have opened op _ didn't create that. and we have opened op very _ didn't create that. and we have opened up very briefly - didn't create that. and we have opened up very briefly to - didn't create that. and we have opened up very briefly to some j opened up very briefly to some people. — opened up very briefly to some people, the hope, that they can have a different— people, the hope, that they can have a different society, but afghanistan is the _ a different society, but afghanistan is the land — a different society, but afghanistan is the land of 19 tribes with many
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is the land of19 tribes with many different— is the land of 19 tribes with many different caste systems going back a lon- different caste systems going back a long time _ different caste systems going back a long time. this is almost modern imperialism just doesn't work. but imperialism 'ust doesn't work. but that's imperialism just doesn't work. that's where imperialism just doesn't work. emit that's where the terrorist activity came from. there is a huge risk for women out there. if we think that we have made progress in our western way of life offers the opportunity to get away from this kind of terrorist activity, this extremist fundamentalism, which is a threat to our way of life, make no mistake, whatever happens in afghanistan, we were in there because it was threatening us. they were trying to take over our way of life and change our way of life, and we need to fight for it and stand up for it. so ou fight for it and stand up for it. so you are in favour of regime change? you go _ you are in favour of regime change? you go in _ you are in favour of regime change? you go in and — you are in favour of regime change? you go in and change a country, and because _ you go in and change a country, and because you — you go in and change a country, and because you said the regime is wrong, — because you said the regime is wrong, you know best about what the other— wrong, you know best about what the other countries regime be? i'm afraid _ other countries regime be? i'm afraid that _ other countries regime be? i'm afraid that make what is the difference between that and the old imperialism, when imperialism said we are _ imperialism, when imperialism said we are going there because we are going _ we are going there because we are going to _ we are going there because we are going to improve your morals. it�*s
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going to improve your morals. it's not a going to improve your morals. it�*s not a question of improving morals. it's a question of freedom. it's a question of our values, which, if we don't stand up for them, we will lose. �* ., ., �* ., ., lose. i'm going to... i'm going to call a halt — lose. i'm going to... i'm going to call a halt to _ lose. i'm going to... i'm going to call a halt to this _ lose. i'm going to... i'm going to call a halt to this discussion - lose. i'm going to... i'm going to call a halt to this discussion now| call a halt to this discussion now and move on, don't apologise to him it's been fascinating. it's a good thing this is about the papers, and what we should do is to promote discussion, whether such an anchor people of their breakfast tables tomorrow or on their way into work. our last story, not run says government house or. this is nicholas smith speaking here. yes. nicholas smith speaking here. yes, of course, nicholas smith speaking here. yes, of course. we _ nicholas smith speaking here. yes, of course, we all— nicholas smith speaking here. yes, of course, we all know— nicholas smith speaking here. yes, of course, we all know what they are, _ of course, we all know what they are, i_ of course, we all know what they are, i suppose we are all, we want change. _ are, i suppose we are all, we want change. we — are, i suppose we are all, we want change, we went to progress, but not in my— change, we went to progress, but not in my backyard, and this question arises _ in my backyard, and this question arises because we need to build houses, — arises because we need to build houses, and the government pledges that 300,000 homes will be billed by the middle of the decade, and what
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