hello and welcome to dateline london. i'm martine croxall. this week we discuss the unfolding tragedy in afghanistan. and we ask do extinction rebellion�*s two weeks of disruptive demonstrations here in london help or hinder the response to climate crisis. our guests — the frenchjournalist and commentator marc roche. the north american broadcaster and writerjeffrey kofman. and with me in the studio, still suitably distanced, is the bbc�*s chief environment correspondentjustin rowlatt.

justin covered afghanistan for almost four years as the bbc�*s south asia correspondent and was in a mortar attack by the taliban. so he is well—placed to talk to us about the events of this week. welcome to you all. let's start with that ben, shelley? —— let's start with that, then, shall we? on thursday, a suicide bomb attack at kabul airport targeted people desperate to flee the country after the taliban takeover. ninety were killed, mostly afghan civilians and 13 us military personnel. a local branch of islamic state called isk said they carried out the attack. throughout the week, 100.000 people were evacuated throughout the week, 100,000 people were evacuated but thousands left behind. there's a huge refugee crisis in the making and a possible humanitarian disaster in afghanistan as money runs out and food disappears. it couldn't be much worse or could it? justin, let's start with you. you know afghanistan well. you were in contact regularly with the taliban. they are highly —— highly organised

group of people. at what point was it inevitable that it would fall to them and fall so quickly?- it inevitable that it would fall to them and fall so quickly? when i was coverin: them and fall so quickly? when i was covering afghanistan, _ them and fall so quickly? when i was covering afghanistan, the _ them and fall so quickly? when i wasl covering afghanistan, the government held most of the urban centres and that taliban held most of the countryside. so if you just looked at the area of the country controlled by the town band, it controlled by the town band, it controlled more than the government. this is in the period when the allies were there in force. so this is up until i left in 2018. so, you know, the taliban have been a significant presence on the ground in afghanistan, you know, for the last two decades during the whole period of the occupation. so in that sense, they were a very significant for us, controlled a large area, and were in a position to make you imagine from a logistically in a position to shut off the roads and therefore, you know, exercise, you know, be in a position to challenge the authority of the afghan government in the cities. i think when the allied troops announced their withdrawal, edge broke confidence in the afghan army in a

way that probably hadn't been predicted. i think that calculus that the taliban would ultimately take control of most areas, probably not cobble connecting people thought that was pretty obvious to most people who knew afghanistan well. jeffrey, did it have to be this messy, though? i mean, the biden administration is not looking great, as you can imagine. the international community has been very critical. the allies in afghanistan have sat, look, we needed more time, but he was not to be dissuaded stop but i think the first question is did it have to be at all? the idea that biden had the notion that america has to get out about 20 years long war, time to leave, there hadn't been an american killed in afghanistan and i think about 18 months, until yesterday. there was a relative amount of stability, but there was certainly an of stability, but there was certainly a ., ., . .,

stability, but there was certainly an of violence and chaos as well. i think if you _ an of violence and chaos as well. i think if you look _ an of violence and chaos as well. i think if you look at _ an of violence and chaos as well. i think if you look at korea, - an of violence and chaos as well. i i think if you look at korea, the us has been in korea for 69 years. the us has been in western europe for much longer. so it's incorrect to say i much longer. so it's incorrect to sa j " much longer. so it's incorrect to say " i , . ., say i think biden will be challenged fairl in his say i think biden will be challenged fairly in his assumption _ say i think biden will be challenged fairly in his assumption and - say i think biden will be challenged fairly in his assumption and that. say i think biden will be challenged fairly in his assumption and that in | fairly in his assumption and that in his declared declaration that the us had to— his declared declaration that the us had to get— his declared declaration that the us had to get out. in the question did it have _ had to get out. in the question did it have to— had to get out. in the question did it have to be this messy? probably a bit of— it have to be this messy? probably a bit of yes— it have to be this messy? probably a bit of yes and no. the idea that anyone could leave afghanistan from if you _ anyone could leave afghanistan from if you are _ anyone could leave afghanistan from if you are going to leave, and have a clean _ if you are going to leave, and have a clean exit — if you are going to leave, and have a clean exit is naive. it was simply not going — a clean exit is naive. it was simply not going to — a clean exit is naive. it was simply not going to happen. and i think thars— not going to happen. and i think that's on— not going to happen. and i think that's on the inside of the us government, they need at the afghan army was_ government, they need at the afghan army was feeble at best. they didn't obviously— army was feeble at best. they didn't obviously see that it was going to 'ust obviously see that it was going to just simply put down its weapons and run, just simply put down its weapons and run. which _ just simply put down its weapons and run, which happened with astonishing speed _ run, which happened with astonishing speed 50 _ run, which happened with astonishing speed. so some serious miscalculations. i think in biden's defence. — miscalculations. i think in biden's defence, there was no good time to

do this, _ defence, there was no good time to do this, and — defence, there was no good time to do this, and it is true, he could have _ do this, and it is true, he could have muddled mind, he could have 'ust have muddled mind, he could have just let _ have muddled mind, he could have just let this — have muddled mind, he could have just let this continue, but i think he also — just let this continue, but i think he also calculated that america's appetite — he also calculated that america's appetite for supporting this mission had diminished, so something had to be done _ had diminished, so something had to be done he — had diminished, so something had to be done. he is in the first year of his term — be done. he is in the first year of his term it— be done. he is in the first year of his term. it was a political risk, but he — his term. it was a political risk, but he is — his term. it was a political risk, but he is still a long way from election— but he is still a long way from election midterms. he will take a lot of— election midterms. he will take a lot of heat— election midterms. he will take a lot of heat for this. we don't know how this _ lot of heat for this. we don't know how this will play out, but he clearly — how this will play out, but he clearly calculated that there was a time to— clearly calculated that there was a time to do— clearly calculated that there was a time to do it, it should be early in his term — time to do it, it should be early in his term hste— time to do it, it should be early in his term. ~ , ., ., ., , his term. we saw this extraordinary meetin: of his term. we saw this extraordinary meeting of the _ his term. we saw this extraordinary meeting of the g7. _ his term. we saw this extraordinary meeting of the g7. what _ his term. we saw this extraordinary meeting of the g7. what other- his term. we saw this extraordinary i meeting of the g7. what other choice of the members of the g7, besides the united states have but to get out as well when it was clear that joe biden was not going to change his mind? ~ ., �* , joe biden was not going to change his mind? ~ ., �*, ., his mind? well, for then it's an addict -- _ his mind? well, for then it's an addict -- it's — his mind? well, for then it's an addict -- it's a _ his mind? well, for then it's an addict -- it's a disaster, - his mind? well, for then it's an i addict -- it's a disaster, because addict —— it's a disaster, because america — addict —— it's a disaster, because america might _ addict —— it's a disaster, because america might recover— addict —— it's a disaster, becausel america might recover committee recovered — america might recover committee recovered after _ america might recover committee recovered after vietnam, - america might recover committee recovered after vietnam, they. america might recover committeel recovered after vietnam, they won the cold _ recovered after vietnam, they won the cold war. _ recovered after vietnam, they won the cold war, but— recovered after vietnam, they won the cold war, but europe - recovered after vietnam, they won the cold war, but europe has - recovered after vietnam, they won i the cold war, but europe has shown it south— the cold war, but europe has shown it south because _ the cold war, but europe has shown it south because it— the cold war, but europe has shown

it south because it has— the cold war, but europe has shown it south because it has no— it south because it has no defence, they are _ it south because it has no defence, they are completely _ it south because it has no defence, they are completely dependent - it south because it has no defence, they are completely dependent onl they are completely dependent on they are completely dependent on they us _ they are completely dependent on they us whimsical— they are completely dependent on they us whimsical decision, - they are completely dependent on they us whimsical decision, and l they are completely dependent on i they us whimsical decision, and the allies— they us whimsical decision, and the aities where — they us whimsical decision, and the allies where not _ they us whimsical decision, and the allies where not even _ they us whimsical decision, and the allies where not even told _ they us whimsical decision, and the allies where not even told about - they us whimsical decision, and the allies where not even told about it l allies where not even told about it in order— allies where not even told about it in order to — allies where not even told about it in order to arrange. _ allies where not even told about it in order to arrange. —— _ allies where not even told about it in order to arrange. —— their- allies where not even told about it in order to arrange. —— their own i in order to arrange. —— their own evacuatioh~ _ in order to arrange. —— their own evacuatioh~ it— in order to arrange. —— their own evacuation. it is— in order to arrange. —— their own evacuation. it is a _ in order to arrange. —— their own evacuation. it is a terrible - in order to arrange. —— their own evacuation. it is a terrible crisisi evacuation. it is a terrible crisis in transatlantic— evacuation. it is a terrible crisis in transatlantic relations, - evacuation. it is a terrible crisis in transatlantic relations, not . evacuation. it is a terrible crisisi in transatlantic relations, not on the european _ in transatlantic relations, not on the european union, _ in transatlantic relations, not on the european union, of- in transatlantic relations, not on the european union, of course. i the european union, of course. written — the european union, of course. written taii~ _ the european union, of course. written tail. now— the european union, of course. written tail. now europe - the european union, of course. written tail. now europe is - the european union, of course. . written tail. now europe is facing its own— written tail. now europe is facing its own crisis _ written tail. now europe is facing its own crisis with _ written tail. now europe is facing its own crisis with no _ written tail. now europe is facing its own crisis with no american i its own crisis with no american help,. — its own crisis with no american help,, libya, _ its own crisis with no american help,, libya, syria, _ its own crisis with no american help,, libya, syria, and - its own crisis with no american help,, libya, syria, and at- its own crisis with no american help,, libya, syria, and at a i its own crisis with no american i help,, libya, syria, and at a time when _ help,, libya, syria, and at a time when the — help,, libya, syria, and at a time when the afghans _ help,, libya, syria, and at a time when the afghans are _ help,, libya, syria, and at a time when the afghans are quite - help,, libya, syria, and at a time . when the afghans are quite weekend try when the afghans are quite weekend by two _ when the afghans are quite weekend by two big _ when the afghans are quite weekend by two big issues, _ when the afghans are quite weekend by two big issues, one _ when the afghans are quite weekend by two big issues, one is _ when the afghans are quite weekend by two big issues, one is the - by two big issues, one is the presidential— by two big issues, one is the presidential election- by two big issues, one is the presidential election in - by two big issues, one is the. presidential election in france by two big issues, one is the - presidential election in france next year. _ presidential election in france next year. and _ presidential election in france next year. and a — presidential election in france next year. and a new— presidential election in france next year, and a new chancellor- presidential election in france next year, and a new chancellor in - year, and a new chancellor in germahy_ year, and a new chancellor in germahy ih _ year, and a new chancellor in germany in the _ year, and a new chancellor in germany in the autumn. - year, and a new chancellor in germany in the autumn. and| year, and a new chancellor in i germany in the autumn. and we year, and a new chancellor in -

germany in the autumn. and we know frahco _ germany in the autumn. and we know frahco german — germany in the autumn. and we know franco german cooperation _ germany in the autumn. and we know franco german cooperation is - franco german cooperation is completely— franco german cooperation is completely paralysed. - franco german cooperation is completely paralysed. so - franco german cooperation is completely paralysed. so the| franco german cooperation is - completely paralysed. so the only way we _ completely paralysed. so the only way we could _ completely paralysed. so the only way we could see _ completely paralysed. so the only way we could see a _ completely paralysed. so the only way we could see a little - completely paralysed. so the only way we could see a little help - completely paralysed. so the only way we could see a little help as i completely paralysed. so the onlyl way we could see a little help as of course _ way we could see a little help as of course that — way we could see a little help as of course that britain _ way we could see a little help as of course that britain and _ way we could see a little help as of course that britain and france, - course that britain and france, which — course that britain and france, which are — course that britain and france, which are the _ course that britain and france, which are the only _ course that britain and france, which are the only two - course that britain and france, which are the only two militaryj which are the only two military power— which are the only two military power in — which are the only two military power in europe, _ which are the only two military power in europe, the - which are the only two military power in europe, the nuclear. which are the only two military- power in europe, the nuclear power or permanent — power in europe, the nuclear power or permanent seat _ power in europe, the nuclear power or permanent seat on _ power in europe, the nuclear power or permanent seat on the _ power in europe, the nuclear power or permanent seat on the europeanj or permanent seat on the european consulates _ or permanent seat on the european consulates come — or permanent seat on the european consulates come together- or permanent seat on the european consulates come together to - or permanent seat on the european consulates come together to try- or permanent seat on the european consulates come together to try to i consulates come together to try to occupy _ consulates come together to try to occupy a _ consulates come together to try to occupy a bit — consulates come together to try to occupy a bit of— consulates come together to try to occupy a bit of the _ consulates come together to try to occupy a bit of the vacuum - consulates come together to try to occupy a bit of the vacuum left - consulates come together to try to occupy a bit of the vacuum left byl occupy a bit of the vacuum left by the americans, _ occupy a bit of the vacuum left by the americans, but— occupy a bit of the vacuum left by the americans, but for— occupy a bit of the vacuum left by the americans, but for that, - occupy a bit of the vacuum left by the americans, but for that, youl the americans, but for that, you will need — the americans, but for that, you will need a — the americans, but for that, you will need a new— the americans, but for that, you will need a new british - the americans, but for that, you will need a new british prime . will need a new british prime mirrister— will need a new british prime minister eric, _ will need a new british prime minister eric, because - will need a new british prime minister eric, because brycel will need a new british prime - minister eric, because bryce johnson credit— minister eric, because bryce johnson credit with _ minister eric, because bryce johnson credit with the — minister eric, because bryce johnson credit with the european _ minister eric, because bryce johnson credit with the european union - minister eric, because bryce johnson credit with the european union is - credit with the european union is zero, _ credit with the european union is zero. zero — credit with the european union is zero, zero points. _ credit with the european union is zero, zero points.— credit with the european union is zero, zero points. jeffrey, at some oint, zero, zero points. jeffrey, at some point. the — zero, zero points. jeffrey, at some point, the taliban _ zero, zero points. jeffrey, at some point, the taliban are _ zero, zero points. jeffrey, at some point, the taliban are going - zero, zero points. jeffrey, at some point, the taliban are going to - point, the taliban are going to insist that they are not just a de facto government, they are the legitimate government. how ready do you think the international community, not least the the white house will be to recognise them? two oints house will be to recognise them? two points here- — house will be to recognise them? two points here. let's understand this attack was not the taliban, it was isis k, as you noted, this fringe

group of isis and afghanistan who has declared its enemy, notjust the americans, but also the taliban, because believe it or not they don't think that taliban is extreme enough. i think it's important to understand that while the taliban may be a de facto taking over afghanistan, that doesn't mean they control that huge country from border to border, and they have by no means an established authority. they may ultimately, or in the short term, control cobble and the levers of power. in terms of where this goes, i think wejust of power. in terms of where this goes, i think we just have to see. 0bviously goes, i think we just have to see. obviously this horrific tale is changing day today. i think that what is really going to determine it is that taliban the same group that it was 20 years ago? car obeyed the hardline extremists who impose just obscenely unity of all punishments on people all and for a swim in out

of schools and into burqas. is that going to be reinstated? or have they learned? they need foreign money. they need for and support them and they went for recognition. are they able to moderate themselves enough to send out signals that they are worthy of that, and two are not able to hold their own supporters so that they can actually show that they can deliver on that, i suppose the third point is can they call the country together because with isis k now raining chaos on the country and you said murdering, 90, buti raining chaos on the country and you said murdering, 90, but i think the number is now up to 170 people dead in the attack on thursday with that kind of threat looming further, can they actually control the country? justin, you are knotting there with some of the points thatjeffrey was making. to what extent have that taliban changed the last 20 years? they have obviously come into power, if we can call it that, saying that they well make sure that girls can be educated. it doesn't seem that

thatis be educated. it doesn't seem that that is sticking out even in some parts. the lgbt q that is sticking out even in some parts. the lgbt 0 plus community in afghanistan. parts. the lgbt q plus community in afghanistan-— afghanistan. there was that extraordinary _ afghanistan. there was that extraordinary press - afghanistan. there was that i extraordinary press conference afghanistan. there was that - extraordinary press conference where they presented this taliban 2.0, newt— they presented this taliban 2.0, newt taliban face, and there is this real question about whether or not that is— real question about whether or not that is true — real question about whether or not that is true. look, you know, they were _ that is true. look, you know, they were very— that is true. look, you know, they were very serious political force. they— were very serious political force. they have — were very serious political force. they have been waging a war against the allies— they have been waging a war against the allies for the last 20 years, and as— the allies for the last 20 years, and as part of that, they have certainly— and as part of that, they have certainly got a vision for how they want _ certainly got a vision for how they want to— certainly got a vision for how they want to rule the country. and they would _ want to rule the country. and they would have — want to rule the country. and they would have taken on board the fact that afghanistan has changed dramatically in the last 20 years. you know. — dramatically in the last 20 years. you know, it's a very young country. the average — you know, it's a very young country. the average age is very low. many afghans _ the average age is very low. many afghans would have grown up without any knowledge of taliban rule. they will be _ any knowledge of taliban rule. they will be used to access to the ihterhet _ will be used to access to the internet and things like that. they

understand how the world works. they have seen _ understand how the world works. they have seen how other countries operate — have seen how other countries operate. the taliban know that they have to _ operate. the taliban know that they have to work with people who understand, you know, those sort of things _ understand, you know, those sort of things so _ understand, you know, those sort of things. so day, i think it is possible _ things. so day, i think it is possible that they do have a vision for a _ possible that they do have a vision for a kind — possible that they do have a vision for a kind of— possible that they do have a vision for a kind of more liberal regime, weather, — for a kind of more liberal regime, weather, you know, as, you know, whether— weather, you know, as, you know, whether they actually have the authority across the country. you've -ot authority across the country. you've got to _ authority across the country. you've got to remember, afghanistan is a tribal— got to remember, afghanistan is a tribal nation, and the sources of power— tribal nation, and the sources of power are — tribal nation, and the sources of power are quite localised. so local tribal— power are quite localised. so local tribal albert is and chiefs will meet — tribal albert is and chiefs will meet with the taliban. so it isn't a centralised — meet with the taliban. so it isn't a centralised authority. they need to work with _ centralised authority. they need to work with all of these different power — work with all of these different power centres, whether they can keep a lid on _ power centres, whether they can keep a lid on all— power centres, whether they can keep a lid on all that is completely an open _ a lid on all that is completely an open question i think at this stage. particularly— open question i think at this stage. particularly when we see that the eis k has been quite capable of carrying out that attack, or so they said, and you at the airport. there

is reckoned _ said, and you at the airport. there is reckoned to _ said, and you at the airport. there is reckoned to be _ said, and you at the airport. there is reckoned to be on _ said, and you at the airport. there is reckoned to be on the _ said, and you at the airport. there is reckoned to be on the about - said, and you at the airport. there is reckoned to be on the about 3000 of them _ is reckoned to be on the about 3000 of them and — is reckoned to be on the about 3000 of them and i asked kay. it's quite localised, — of them and i asked kay. it's quite localised, the support for isis but then afghanistan. and as you say, they have — then afghanistan. and as you say, they have fights, they have been fighting, — they have fights, they have been fighting, they have fought a war with isis, — fighting, they have fought a war with isis, they have been fighting isis with isis, they have been fighting isis since — with isis, they have been fighting isis since isis first emerged in afghanistan. they are formally enemies — afghanistan. they are formally enemies. ~ afghanistan. they are formally enemies. ,, ~ ., afghanistan. they are formally enemies. ,, ,, ., ., , enemies. mark, we know that these flirhts enemies. mark, we know that these fli . hts to enemies. mark, we know that these flights to get _ enemies. mark, we know that these flights to get people _ enemies. mark, we know that these flights to get people out _ enemies. mark, we know that these flights to get people out are - enemies. mark, we know that these flights to get people out are coming j flights to get people out are coming to an end. brycejohnson for his protest that he will do everything he can to keep trying to get people out of the country. but we know there have been two years of people trying to get across the land borders into pakistan. how do the international community help people to the gates to the safety if these flights have stopped? bearing in mind, of course, grace was telling the eu not to take too many afghans and. ~ �* , ., , ., , and. well, it's a huge problem because as _ and. well, it's a huge problem because as we _ and. well, it's a huge problem because as we have _ and. well, it's a huge problem because as we have seen - and. well, it's a huge problem because as we have seen in i and. well, it's a huge problem . because as we have seen in syria, europe _ because as we have seen in syria, europe didn't _ because as we have seen in syria, europe didn't get _ because as we have seen in syria, europe didn't get its _ because as we have seen in syria, europe didn't get its act _ because as we have seen in syria, europe didn't get its act togetherl

europe didn't get its act together to share — europe didn't get its act together to share all— europe didn't get its act together to share all of _ europe didn't get its act together to share all of the _ europe didn't get its act together to share all of the refugees - europe didn't get its act together to share all of the refugees and i to share all of the refugees and asylum—seekers, _ to share all of the refugees and asylum—seekers, and— to share all of the refugees and asylum—seekers, and at- to share all of the refugees and asylum—seekers, and at the - to share all of the refugees and - asylum—seekers, and at the moment, with the _ asylum—seekers, and at the moment, with the pandemic _ asylum—seekers, and at the moment, with the pandemic still _ asylum—seekers, and at the moment, with the pandemic still going - asylum—seekers, and at the moment, with the pandemic still going on, - with the pandemic still going on, there _ with the pandemic still going on, there is— with the pandemic still going on, there is really— with the pandemic still going on, there is really an _ with the pandemic still going on, i there is really an anti—immigration feeling _ there is really an anti—immigration feeling all— there is really an anti—immigration feeling all over— there is really an anti—immigration feeling all over europe, _ there is really an anti—immigration feeling all over europe, including i feeling all over europe, including in britain — feeling allover europe, including in britain so— feeling all over europe, including in britain. so it _ feeling all over europe, including in britain. so it is _ feeling all over europe, including in britain. so it is very— feeling all over europe, including| in britain. so it is very important, i in britain. so it is very important, ithink. _ in britain. so it is very important, ithink. this — in britain. so it is very important, i think, this time _ in britain. so it is very important, i think, this time to— in britain. so it is very important, i think, this time to get— in britain. so it is very important, i think, this time to get our- in britain. so it is very important, i think, this time to get our act. i think, this time to get our act together — i think, this time to get our act together its— i think, this time to get our act together. it's to _ i think, this time to get our act together. it's to have - i think, this time to get our act together. it's to have a - together. it's to have a conference together. it's to have a conference to share _ together. it's to have a conference to share the — together. it's to have a conference to share the burden— together. it's to have a conference to share the burden of— together. it's to have a conference to share the burden of the - together. it's to have a conferencel to share the burden of the refugees among _ to share the burden of the refugees among all— to share the burden of the refugees among all the — to share the burden of the refugees among all the countries _ to share the burden of the refugees among all the countries that - to share the burden of the refugees among all the countries that are - among all the countries that are ready— among all the countries that are ready to — among all the countries that are ready to take _ among all the countries that are ready to take them. _ among all the countries that are ready to take them. i _ among all the countries that are ready to take them. i think- among all the countries that are ready to take them. i think we l among all the countries that are - ready to take them. i think we have a duty— ready to take them. i think we have a duty to _ ready to take them. i think we have a duty to help— ready to take them. i think we have a duty to help the _ ready to take them. i think we have a duty to help the afghans - ready to take them. i think we have a duty to help the afghans who - a duty to help the afghans who helped — a duty to help the afghans who helped us— a duty to help the afghans who helped us in— a duty to help the afghans who helped us in this _ a duty to help the afghans who helped us in this war. - a duty to help the afghans who helped us in this war. and - a duty to help the afghans who helped us in this war. and we i a duty to help the afghans who - helped us in this war. and we can't let them _ helped us in this war. and we can't let them down _ helped us in this war. and we can't let them down. now, _ helped us in this war. and we can't let them down. now, there - helped us in this war. and we can't let them down. now, there is - helped us in this war. and we can't. let them down. now, there is another way of— let them down. now, there is another way of pressurising _ let them down. now, there is another way of pressurising the _ let them down. now, there is another way of pressurising the taliban - let them down. now, there is another way of pressurising the taliban to - way of pressurising the taliban to let people — way of pressurising the taliban to let people go. _ way of pressurising the taliban to let people go. it's— way of pressurising the taliban to let people go, it's money, - way of pressurising the taliban tol let people go, it's money, money, money, _ let people go, it's money, money, money, of— let people go, it's money, money, money, of course. _ let people go, it's money, money, money, of course. the _ let people go, it's money, money, money, of course. the country- let people go, it's money, money, money, of course. the country is. money, of course. the country is bankrupt, — money, of course. the country is bankrupt, that— money, of course. the country is bankrupt, that taliban _ money, of course. the country is bankrupt, that taliban will - money, of course. the country is bankrupt, that taliban will have. money, of course. the country is. bankrupt, that taliban will have to run the _ bankrupt, that taliban will have to run the military— bankrupt, that taliban will have to run the military where _ bankrupt, that taliban will have to run the military where they - bankrupt, that taliban will have to run the military where they could i

run the military where they could and on _ run the military where they could and on illegal— run the military where they could and on illegal taxes— run the military where they could and on illegal taxes on— run the military where they could and on illegal taxes on transportl and on illegal taxes on transport and on illegal taxes on transport and that— and on illegal taxes on transport and that sort _ and on illegal taxes on transport and that sort of— and on illegal taxes on transport and that sort of thing. _ and on illegal taxes on transport and that sort of thing. they- and on illegal taxes on transport| and that sort of thing. they need and on illegal taxes on transport. and that sort of thing. they need to really. _ and that sort of thing. they need to really. the — and that sort of thing. they need to really. the money— and that sort of thing. they need to really, the money is completely- really, the money is completely blocked — really, the money is completely blocked in — really, the money is completely blocked in washington - really, the money is completely blocked in washington either i really, the money is completelyj blocked in washington either by really, the money is completely- blocked in washington either by the imf blocked in washington either by the w or— blocked in washington either by the w or the _ blocked in washington either by the imf or the american _ blocked in washington either by the imf or the american administration| imf or the american administration or in europe — imf or the american administration or in europe so— imf or the american administration or in europe. so there _ imf or the american administration or in europe. so there i— imf or the american administration or in europe. so there i think- imf or the american administration or in europe. so there i think there| or in europe. so there i think there is a real— or in europe. so there i think there is a real leverage _ or in europe. so there i think there is a real leverage of _ or in europe. so there i think there is a real leverage of the _ or in europe. so there i think there is a real leverage of the last - or in europe. so there i think there is a real leverage of the last two i is a real leverage of the last two force _ is a real leverage of the last two force the — is a real leverage of the last two force the taliban _ is a real leverage of the last two force the taliban to _ is a real leverage of the last two force the taliban to be - is a real leverage of the last two force the taliban to be more i force the taliban to be more inclusive _ force the taliban to be more inclusive than— force the taliban to be more inclusive than their- force the taliban to be more i inclusive than their government force the taliban to be more - inclusive than their government and to respect— inclusive than their government and to respect human _ inclusive than their government and to respect human rights. _ inclusive than their government and to respect human rights.— to respect human rights. jeffrey, what is the _ to respect human rights. jeffrey, what is the appetite _ to respect human rights. jeffrey, what is the appetite amongst i to respect human rights. jeffrey, j what is the appetite amongst the american public for taking in afghans who helped then and the allies? we know thatjoe biden has said they are going to have to be screened, vetted, they won't necessarily committees refugees, be allowed straight into the us if that is where they want to end up stopping i think it's a spotty record in the past on the circumstances, in support for people who are particularly, interpreters, they don't just who are particularly, interpreters, they don'tjust interpret their language into english, to help

people understand culture, they help people understand culture, they help people find contacts. i have worked with these kinds of people as a general estimate is a war correspondent general estimate is a war corresponden- general estimate is a war corresponden general estimate is a war corres-ronden , ., , , . correspondent your lives very much de-end correspondent your lives very much de end on correspondent your lives very much depend on these _ correspondent your lives very much depend on these people, _ correspondent your lives very much depend on these people, and i correspondent your lives very much depend on these people, and you i depend on these people, and you become incredibly loyal to them as they are to you become incredibly loyal to them as they are to you. and so that people who are connected to then well at work and are breaking very hard to bring those people and and the support of the us administration in the us efforts there. it's not going to be easy and particularly difficult now, because the airport is erratic at best, if it's open at all. i think this is not whatjoe biden had in mind when he said we are going to leave quickly. he thought it was going to be, i think in retrospect, it seems incredibly naive on his part. he has really undermined his own authority as a staple for us, a stable leader, which is really, let's face it, what

brought him to power in the first place against donald trump. he barely has damaged his own brand, so to speak, but he has, more portly, the people of afghanistan have left them in real chaos, and it's not clear what the impact is going to be for afghanistan, clear what the impact is going to be forafghanistan, norfor clear what the impact is going to be for afghanistan, norfor biden, clear what the impact is going to be forafghanistan, norfor biden, but ithink forafghanistan, norfor biden, but i think it's also too early to write that chapter in history. a year as a long time these days, and memories are very short. so let's see how this plays out, but right now, as history is unfolding, hour by hour, it is not a good story. it is a terrible, terrible tragedy that is unfolding. terrible, terrible tragedy that is unfoldinu, , terrible, terrible tragedy that is unfoldinu. , ~ ~' ., unfolding. justin, mike mentioned the fact that _ unfolding. justin, mike mentioned the fact that the _ unfolding. justin, mike mentioned the fact that the country _ unfolding. justin, mike mentioned the fact that the country is - unfolding. justin, mike mentioned the fact that the country is broke i the fact that the country is broke and that they will need some money. that's the leverage potentially for the west to deal with the taliban. but as people are trying to get out, we need to get humanitarian aid and for the people left behind. how inclined in your experience where the taliban to accept that sort of help? the taliban to accept that sort of hel ? ., the taliban to accept that sort of hel? ., . , . ., help? not necessarily inclined at all, but help? not necessarily inclined at all. but you _ help? not necessarily inclined at all, but you have _ help? not necessarily inclined at all, but you have to _ help? not necessarily inclined at all, but you have to remember. help? not necessarily inclined at i all, but you have to remember there are other— all, but you have to remember there are other players here. the taliban, so i are other players here. the taliban, so i can— are other players here. the taliban, so i can afghanistan was obviously

the centre — so i can afghanistan was obviously the centre of the great game back in the centre of the great game back in the victorian era, and there is a great _ the victorian era, and there is a great game _ the victorian era, and there is a great game still playing out in afghanistan. the chinese and the russians— afghanistan. the chinese and the russians have indicated that they may be _ russians have indicated that they may be interested in supporting afghanistan and the chinese, for instance — afghanistan and the chinese, for instance are advertising their ability— instance are advertising their ability to— instance are advertising their ability to build an infrastructure in afghanistan, and have already been _ in afghanistan, and have already been talking about this. sol in afghanistan, and have already been talking about this. so i don't think— been talking about this. so i don't think the — been talking about this. so i don't think the west has a unique franchise _ think the west has a unique franchise in afghanistan, there are other— franchise in afghanistan, there are other nations to which to exert their— other nations to which to exert their influence there and are willing — their influence there and are willing to use their resources to do so. willing to use their resources to do so so— willing to use their resources to do so so that — willing to use their resources to do so. so that is going to be very interesting to see how that plays out and — interesting to see how that plays out and the extent to which these nations— out and the extent to which these nations will allow the taliban to keep— nations will allow the taliban to keep control of the country. you wonder, mark, _ keep control of the country. gm. wonder, mark, whether the keep control of the country. gm. wonder, mark, whetherthe eu, the wonder, mark, whether the eu, the united states miss stepped here, not may do you think they recognise sufficiently how much of an opportunity china and russia would see this moment as being, as dustin hasjust explained?

see this moment as being, as dustin has just explained?— hasjust explained? well, as we heard, hasjust explained? well, as we heard. the _ hasjust explained? well, as we heard, the americans _ hasjust explained? well, as we i heard, the americans misinterpreted it completely — heard, the americans misinterpreted it completely. that _ heard, the americans misinterpreted it completely. that europeans - heard, the americans misinterpreted it completely. that europeans were i it completely. that europeans were depending — it completely. that europeans were depending on— it completely. that europeans were depending on the _ it completely. that europeans were depending on the americans, - it completely. that europeans were depending on the americans, so i it completely. that europeans were i depending on the americans, so they were not— depending on the americans, so they were not particularly— depending on the americans, so they were not particularly interested i were not particularly interested about _ were not particularly interested about what _ were not particularly interested about what is _ were not particularly interested about what is going _ were not particularly interested about what is going on - were not particularly interested about what is going on with i were not particularly interested i about what is going on with russia and china — about what is going on with russia and china and— about what is going on with russia and china and i_ about what is going on with russia and china and i think— about what is going on with russia and china and i think the - about what is going on with russia and china and i think the ball- about what is going on with russia and china and i think the ball is. about what is going on with russia and china and i think the ball is in| and china and i think the ball is in the american _ and china and i think the ball is in the american camp. _ and china and i think the ball is in the american camp. they- and china and i think the ball is in the american camp. they are i and china and i think the ball is in the american camp. they are the | and china and i think the ball is in- the american camp. they are the only superpower _ the american camp. they are the only superpower. europe _ the american camp. they are the only superpower. europe is _ the american camp. they are the only superpower. europe is no _ the american camp. they are the only superpower. europe is no longer- the american camp. they are the only superpower. europe is no longer a i superpower. europe is no longer a superpower— superpower. europe is no longer a superpower because _ superpower. europe is no longer a superpower because it _ superpower. europe is no longer a superpower because it doesn't i superpower. europe is no longer a. superpower because it doesn't have superpower. europe is no longer a i superpower because it doesn't have a defence _ superpower because it doesn't have a defence policy~ — superpower because it doesn't have a defence policy. so— superpower because it doesn't have a defence policy. so definitely- superpower because it doesn't have a defence policy. so definitely the i defence policy. so definitely the ball is _ defence policy. so definitely the ball is in— defence policy. so definitely the ball is in the _ defence policy. so definitely the ball is in the us _ defence policy. so definitely the ball is in the us camp, - defence policy. so definitely the ball is in the us camp, and i- defence policy. so definitely the i ball is in the us camp, and i think the us— ball is in the us camp, and i think the us isto— ball is in the us camp, and i think the us is to show— ball is in the us camp, and i think the us is to show again— ball is in the us camp, and i think. the us is to show again leadership, which has _ the us is to show again leadership, which has been _ the us is to show again leadership, which has been missing _ the us is to show again leadership, which has been missing for- the us is to show again leadership, which has been missing for a - the us is to show again leadership, which has been missing for a long i which has been missing for a long time _ which has been missing for a long time. , . . , which has been missing for a long time. . . , . ' , time. just briefly then, jeffrey, who does the _ time. just briefly then, jeffrey, who does the united _ time. just briefly then, jeffrey, who does the united states i time. just briefly then, jeffrey, - who does the united states partner with in the region to try to exert some influence when they have shipped out? the some influence when they have shipped out?— shipped out? the us has traditionally _ shipped out? the us has traditionally tragedy - shipped out? the us has traditionally tragedy is i shipped out? the us has| traditionally tragedy is as shipped out? the us has - traditionally tragedy is as leverage with afghanistan, but they have said famously, you know, we have to live next to afghanistan. you know, if

you leave, we still are here. so they have always kind of played both sides of this, the pakistanis, both talking to the taliban and providing intelligence against them. so i think pakistan still plays a pivotal role they are. i'm curious about this talk of russia and china moving in. let's face it, russia, firmly the soviet union has a pretty searing history of its own in afghanistan and its own failure, failed invasion in the 19805 that was just catastrophic in terms of consequences. afghanistan is not a nation that wants to be occupied. history has shown that the british much earlier failed. history has shown that the british much earlierfailed. this is a very complex region, and it simply does not... it is not a country that can be conquered and restructured, re—engineered in a western paradigm. thank you all. let's move on. this week has seen the centre of london full of demonstrators from the extinction rebellion movement protesting and calling for the end

of the use of fossil fuels. some question whether the demonstrations will achieve anything. many suggest the gap between government rhetoric and actual actions is wider than ever. activists have been accused of vandalism after pouring fake blood into the fountain outside buckingham palace. justin, you are our chief environments correspondence. you are the perfect correspondent to be with us this evening. what effect do you think, if any, us this evening. what effect do you think, ifany, extension us this evening. what effect do you think, if any, extension rebellion�*s actions are really having and moving the dial on climate change. the? actions are really having and moving the dial on climate change. they get attention, the dial on climate change. they get attention. they _ the dial on climate change. they get attention, they get _ the dial on climate change. they get attention, they get the _ the dial on climate change. they get attention, they get the issues - attention, they get the issues discussed, sometimes positively, sometimes negatively, but i'm not sure that's — sometimes negatively, but i'm not sure that's the presenter which you should _ sure that's the presenter which you should see — sure that's the presenter which you should see this happening in the sense _ should see this happening in the sense that they have a legitimate i’i l ht sense that they have a legitimate right to _ sense that they have a legitimate right to express their views. they feel passionately that the government isn't doing enough to tackle _ government isn't doing enough to tackle what they call the climate emergency. and they believe, they feel, emergency. and they believe, they feel. you _ emergency. and they believe, they feel, you know, powerless to do, to change _ feel, you know, powerless to do, to change the — feel, you know, powerless to do, to change the government's be used without_ change the government's be used without going onto the streets and

started _ without going onto the streets and started making their protests clear. ithink— started making their protests clear. i think in_ started making their protests clear. i think in democracies, it's legitimate for people to express their opinions in this way. yeah, some _ their opinions in this way. yeah, some of— their opinions in this way. yeah, some of it — their opinions in this way. yeah, some of it is _ their opinions in this way. yeah, some of it is theatrical and dramatic— some of it is theatrical and dramatic them and they were pouring blood _ dramatic them and they were pouring blood outside the london stock exchange this afternoon, but... where — exchange this afternoon, but... where them? i exchange this afternoon, but... where them?— exchange this afternoon, but... where them? ., , ., where them? i was then, untili got a bit of fake — where them? i was then, untili got a bit of fake blood _ where them? i was then, untili got a bit of fake blood on _ where them? i was then, untili got a bit of fake blood on my _ where them? i was then, untili got a bit of fake blood on my shoes. - where them? i was then, untili got a bit of fake blood on my shoes. i i a bit of fake blood on my shoes. i was with— a bit of fake blood on my shoes. i was with them today. mark _ was with them today. mark and extension rebellion began in the uk, but have staged international events. how much traction have they got in france? 0r traction have they got in france? or is that other groups that are having more success in convincing politicians that they need to act faster? ~ ., ., . , ., faster? well, and france, extension rebellion would _ faster? well, and france, extension rebellion would not _ faster? well, and france, extension rebellion would not have _ faster? well, and france, extension rebellion would not have the - faster? well, and france, extension rebellion would not have the leewayj rebellion would not have the leeway they have _ rebellion would not have the leeway they have in — rebellion would not have the leeway they have in the _ rebellion would not have the leeway they have in the uk _ rebellion would not have the leeway they have in the uk because - rebellion would not have the leeway they have in the uk because the - they have in the uk because the police _ they have in the uk because the police is — they have in the uk because the police is much _ they have in the uk because the police is much harsher, - they have in the uk because the police is much harsher, lying. they have in the uk because the - police is much harsher, lying order, the government— police is much harsher, lying order, the government is— police is much harsher, lying order, the government is really— police is much harsher, lying order, the government is really trying - police is much harsher, lying order, the government is really trying to l the government is really trying to keep— the government is really trying to keep that — the government is really trying to keep that sort _ the government is really trying to keep that sort of _ the government is really trying to keep that sort of movements - the government is really trying to keep that sort of movements out| the government is really trying to . keep that sort of movements out of the road _ keep that sort of movements out of the road so— keep that sort of movements out of the road so i— keep that sort of movements out of the road. so i think— keep that sort of movements out of

the road. so i think the _ keep that sort of movements out of the road. so i think the issue - keep that sort of movements out of the road. so i think the issue is- the road. so i think the issue is huge _ the road. so i think the issue is huge because _ the road. so i think the issue is huge because the _ the road. so i think the issue is huge because the cop26, - the road. so i think the issue is| huge because the cop26, which the road. so i think the issue is. huge because the cop26, which is taking _ huge because the cop26, which is taking part — huge because the cop26, which is taking part in _ huge because the cop26, which is taking part in glasgow, _ huge because the cop26, which is taking part in glasgow, so- huge because the cop26, which is taking part in glasgow, so the - huge because the cop26, which is taking part in glasgow, so the un| taking part in glasgow, so the un climate _ taking part in glasgow, so the un climate change _ taking part in glasgow, so the un climate change conference - taking part in glasgow, so the un climate change conference is- taking part in glasgow, so the un climate change conference is notl climate change conference is not going _ climate change conference is not going very — climate change conference is not going very wetk _ climate change conference is not going very well. it's _ climate change conference is not going very well. it's the - climate change conference is not going very well. it's the big - climate change conference is not. going very well. it's the big scheme of boris _ going very well. it's the big scheme of borisjohnson _ going very well. it's the big scheme of boris johnson with _ going very well. it's the big scheme of boris johnson with the _ going very well. it's the big scheme of boris johnson with the g7, - going very well. it's the big scheme of boris johnson with the g7, but i going very well. it's the big schemej of borisjohnson with the g7, but he hasn't _ of borisjohnson with the g7, but he hasn't given — of borisjohnson with the g7, but he hasn't given it — of borisjohnson with the g7, but he hasn't given it any— of borisjohnson with the g7, but he hasn't given it any attention. - of borisjohnson with the g7, but he hasn't given it any attention. now, i hasn't given it any attention. now, if you _ hasn't given it any attention. now, if you see — hasn't given it any attention. now, if you see the _ hasn't given it any attention. now, if you see the cop _ hasn't given it any attention. now, if you see the cop 21, _ if you see the cop 21, which happened _ if you see the cop 21, which happened in— if you see the cop 21, which happened in france - if you see the cop 21, which happened in france in- if you see the cop 21, which| happened in france in 2015, everything _ happened in france in 2015, everything was _ happened in france in 2015, everything was centralised, | happened in france in 2015, - everything was centralised, and it was a _ everything was centralised, and it was a great — everything was centralised, and it was a great success _ everything was centralised, and it was a great success because - everything was centralised, and it| was a great success because there was a great success because there was the _ was a great success because there was the political— was a great success because there was the political well. _ was a great success because there was the political well. and - was a great success because there was the political well. and all- was the political well. and all white — was the political well. and all white boris _ was the political well. and all while borisjohnson _ was the political well. and all while borisjohnson has - was the political well. and all while borisjohnson has given was the political well. and all. while borisjohnson has given us was the political well. and all- while borisjohnson has given us at the moment— while borisjohnson has given us at the moment is— while borisjohnson has given us at the moment is prince _ while borisjohnson has given us at the moment is prince charles, - while borisjohnson has given us at the moment is prince charles, sol the moment is prince charles, so prince _ the moment is prince charles, so prince charles's _ the moment is prince charles, so prince charles's fantastic - prince charles's fantastic credentialing _ prince charles's fantastic credentialing ecology, i prince charles's fantasticl credentialing ecology, but prince charles's fantastic - credentialing ecology, but the prohtem — credentialing ecology, but the problem itself _ credentialing ecology, but the problem itself is _ credentialing ecology, but the problem itself is no _ credentialing ecology, but the problem itself is no sort, - credentialing ecology, but the problem itself is no sort, he l problem itself is no sort, he doesn't _ problem itself is no sort, he doesn't have _ problem itself is no sort, he doesn't have the _ problem itself is no sort, he doesn't have the political. problem itself is no sort, he i doesn't have the political well problem itself is no sort, he - doesn't have the political well that you need _ doesn't have the political well that you need for— doesn't have the political well that you need for such _ doesn't have the political well that you need for such a _ doesn't have the political well that you need for such a success - doesn't have the political well that you need for such a success of- doesn't have the political well that you need for such a success of the| you need for such a success of the c0p26, _ you need for such a success of the cop26, because _ you need for such a success of the cop26, because if— you need for such a success of the cop26, because if this _

you need for such a success of the cop26, because if this fails, - you need for such a success of the cop26, because if this fails, thenl cop26, because if this fails, then you can _ cop26, because if this fails, then you can show— cop26, because if this fails, then you can show extension - cop26, because if this fails, then you can show extension rebellionj you can show extension rebellion will have — you can show extension rebellion will have nrany— you can show extension rebellion will have many days _ you can show extension rebellion will have many days in _ you can show extension rebellion will have many days in front - you can show extension rebellion will have many days in front of. will have many days in front of them — will have many days in front of them. ~ ., , ., , ., , them. what extension rebellion is sa inc them. what extension rebellion is saying isn't _ them. what extension rebellion is saying isn't exactly _ them. what extension rebellion is saying isn't exactly controversial, | saying isn't exactly controversial, is at? we know we have to give up fossil fuels. is at? we know we have to give up fossilfuels. the is at? we know we have to give up fossil fuels. the assumption was thatjoe biden would be more environmentally minded than donald trump. what evidence are you seeing of fat ahead of top 26 in november? you know, ithink of fat ahead of top 26 in november? you know, i think that's a massive infrastructure bell you know, i think that's a massive infrastructure hell that you no doubt have been reporting on, i think it's a in infrastructure. a good chunk of that day is going toward the environment, toward environmental clean—up, towards making the environment, addressing issues of climate change, electrification of cards, creating networks of charge points across the us. so, you know, ithink there is us. so, you know, i think there is a significant efforts. people have every right to feel inpatient and a sense of panic about climate change,

the climate emergency, and i agree with justin that the climate emergency, and i agree withjustin that i think that the climate emergency, and i agree with justin that i think that we don't disagree with the fundamentals of what extension rebellion is saying, but to go back to your question earlier, i think that what i wonder as a journalist is whether they are actually helping or hurting their cause commitment since they are raising awareness, but in another sense, are raising awareness, but in anothersense, people are raising awareness, but in another sense, people who genuinely support what they are saying are being turned off by their tactics. remember october 2019, they stopped the tubes here in london, whichjust mystified commuters who were on this energy efficient electrified railway getting to work, and they glued themselves to the tube trains in a mean of extension rebellion, and peoplejust mean of extension rebellion, and people just couldn't connect the dots, and even wrist —— extension rebellion acknowledged maybe it wasn't the best tactic, which suggests that this isn't a group of —— is a group of well—meaning people in one hand and then some anarchists have attach themselves to it on the other hand and this is always the

problem with these kinds of protest groups. what is the message and how much impact is that having four just much impact is that having four 'ust briefl much impact is that having four 'ust briefly then. — much impact is that having fourjust briefly then, justin, are they going to annoy people more than they are going to achieve their aims? there have been actions that other ektension— there have been actions that other extension rebellion thought were inappropriate. they calibrated this very carefully. they occupy road junctions, — very carefully. they occupy road junctions, but they are not very busy— junctions, but they are not very busy road — junctions, but they are not very busy road junctions. a's got these great _ busy road junctions. a's got these great dramatic sculptures and are quite _ great dramatic sculptures and are quite careful not to cause too much disruption — quite careful not to cause too much disruption from a little bit, but not too — disruption from a little bit, but not too much. that is what they are hoping it�*s— not too much. that is what they are ho - in . �* , ., not too much. that is what they are hoina. �*, ., ., . not too much. that is what they are ho-uin. ., . , hoping. it's a balancing act, is dick? thank — hoping. it's a balancing act, is dick? thank you _ hoping. it's a balancing act, is dick? thank you to _ hoping. it's a balancing act, is dick? thank you to mark - hoping. it's a balancing act, is dick? thank you to mark and l hoping. it's a balancing act, is. dick? thank you to mark and to jeffrey and justin. that's all we have time for this week. do join us again next week same time same place. thank you for watching, goodbye.

hello there. it's been another dry day across the board. we've seen plenty of sunshine across northern and western parts of the uk, but a lot more cloud further east. tonight, it's going to stay dry. there will be lengthy clear spells in many areas, particularly central, northern and western areas. and it will turn quite chilly in one or two spots as well. now, winds will be light under this area of high pressure. still quite a breeze blowing down the east and particularly the southeast corner. that'll feed in a bit of cloud at times and stop temperatures here from falling much below ten, 12 degrees. further north and west, the winds will be light. and here, we'll have issues with some mist and fog, some sea fog affecting northern and western parts of scotland, perhaps into northern ireland as well. single figure values, you'll notice here, particularly in rural spots. double figures further south and east. so, for the weekend — and for many of us, it's a bank holiday weekend — it's going to be largely dry

with our big blocking area of high pressure holding on. it will bring sunny spells. it's not going to be wall—to—wall sunshine, but where you get the sunshine, it'll be quite warm. on saturday, our area of high pressure will be with us. into sunday, the centre of it towards the north west corner. there will be quite a few showers over the near continent. there's just an outside threat that one or two of these could graze the very far southeast of england through the day, but i think most places will stay dry. here, again, quite breezy, a bit of cloud. further north and west, largely dry with plenty of sunshine and light winds too. just a little bit of sea fog hugging coastal parts of scotland and northern ireland. i think saturday looks like being the warmest day of the weekend. we could see the mid—205 across parts of scotland, close to that in central and southern areas as well, but a little bit fresher along north sea coasts because of that onshore breeze. on sunday, temperatures a degree or so down. i think there could be a bit more cloud across northern and eastern areas. best of the sunshine, central and southern and western areas, sheltered from that north—northeast breeze, so i think it's here where we'll see the best temperatures. up in cardiff, bristol, 22, maybe 23 degrees.

cooler than that, northern and eastern coasts. so for monday, then, which is a bank holiday for many of us, looks like we could see more in the way of cloud generally, some spells of sunshine, too, particularly in the southwest. top temperatures 20, maybe 21 degrees, so a little bit fresher across the board. and it stays fine through the new week as well, but there is a chance that things could start to turn more unsettled by next weekend, as low pressure starts to invade in.

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