good morning. this is bbc news with the latest headlines. new zealand police have shot and killed a "violent extremist" who stabbed and wounded at least six people in an auckland supermarket. the terrorist is a sri lankan national who arrived in new zealand in october of 2011. he became a personal of national security interest from 2016. a call for higher taxes to pay for social care — reports say ministers are considering an increase in national insurance to fund care in the future. no decisions have been made, but what has been happening is that work has been going on in the relevant parts

of government to bring forward and to develop proposals that deal with this issue. let us know if you think this is the best way to fund reforming the social care system, and would you support an increase in national insurance to do it? get in touch with me on twitter @annita—mcveigh and use the hashtag #bbcyourquestions. the foreign secretary, dominic raab, visits pakistan, as he continues his efforts to ensure safe passage from afghanistan for british citizens and afghans who worked for the uk. at least 45 people are now known to have been killed by flash floods in the north—east of the united states. a man from london who belonged to an islamic state gang pleads guilty to a series of charges in the united states — including conspiring to murder four american hostages. a new criminal offence of pet abduction is set to be introduced in england, under plans to tackle a reported rise in the number of pets being stolen.

and the football association has asked for an investigation into racist chanting from hungary fans during last night's world cup qualifier in budapest. hello and welcome to bbc news. a man wielding a knife has injured six people at a supermarket in new zealand before being shot dead by police. the country's prime ministerjacinda ardern said the incident in auckland was a terrorist attack, which she said was committed by a man known to the authorities. three of the victims are in a critical condition. matt gravelling reports. this afternoon at approximately

2:40pm, a violent extremist undertook a terrorist attack on innocent new zealanders in the newland countdown in auckland. the attack took place at the countdown supermarket in a suburb of auckland. the attacker — who cannot be identified — stabbed and wounded at least six people before he was shot and killed by new zealand police. local reports say three of the victims are in a critical condition. prime ministerjacinda ardern described the event as a terrorist attack. the terrorist is a sri lankan national who arrived in new zealand in october of 2011. he became a personal of national security interest from 2016. questions are already being raised over why action wasn't taken against the attacker before six people were injured.

the reality is that when you are surveilling someone on a 24/7 basis, it is not possible to be immediately next to them at all times. the staff intervened as quickly as they could, and they prevented further injury in what was a terrifying situation. the new zealand prime minister also said the exact reasons the attacker was known to the agencies is currently the subject of suppression orders made to the courts. matt graveling, bbc news. earlier, the mayor of auckland, spoke to the bbc and gave his reaction to the attack. i think we're all pretty horrified by what's happened. it's pretty unusual in our city for an attack of this nature to take place, and, you know, the person that was responsible for this, we condemn for the hate—filled ideology that consumed him to act in this way and to

attempt to take the lives of half a dozen innocent people who did nothing wrong other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time. and all you can say at the end of this was thatjustice came pretty swiftly for the offender in this case. but our thoughts are very clearly with the victims and their families. they really, you know... it's a horrible thing for those families to go through something like this, for a person that acted in a random way, motivated by hate—filled ideology. we absolutely condemn that, but we don't condemn the man because of his nationality or because of his religion — just as we didn't condemn the christchurch terrorist who attacked the mosques there, who happened to be australian and happened to be christian. he acted because of his ideology and he was held solely responsible, and likewise with this individual.

joining us now from sydney is our correspondent, phil mercer. i have heard reports that this attack was brought to an end in 60 seconds for those of us are presumably surveilling this individual to come in to intervene. in that time, it goes, he had managed injured six people. it still raises lots of questions, doesn't it, that someone who jacinda ardern was saying was a person of national security in this for a number of years and how they were able to carry out this attack. —— national security interest. carry out this attack. -- national security interest.— carry out this attack. -- national security interest. went, plenty of i a . s security interest. went, plenty of aa -s in security interest. went, plenty of gaps in the _ security interest. went, plenty of gaps in the story _ security interest. went, plenty of gaps in the story at _ security interest. went, plenty of gaps in the story at the _ security interest. went, plenty of gaps in the story at the moment. j security interest. went, plenty of. gaps in the story at the moment. we know that this person went to new zealand in the latter part of 2016, so ten years ago. he was identified as a national security threat and jacinda ardern the prime minister was saying that this individual was under surveillance when he began his

rampage in the supermarket in the western parts of auckland. auckland is new zealand's�*s biggest city. six people were injured. videos posted on social media have shown unsurprisingly scenes of chaos, hysteria and panic as people tried to get out of the supermarket. that surveillance team, as the prime minister indicated, shot dead the attacker within a minute of his rampage beginning and we do understand that the government is now launching urgent legal action to try to have those suppression orders lifted that are preventing details of this man's identity and past being made public.— of this man's identity and past being made public. of this man's identity and past bein: made ublic. ~ ., ., ., being made public. what more do we know about the _ being made public. what more do we know about the conditions _ being made public. what more do we know about the conditions at - being made public. what more do we know about the conditions at the - know about the conditions at the victims, phil, at the moment? we know that victims, phil, at the moment? - know that three of them are pretty seriously injured and at least one other has pretty bad injuries as well so you have to say that it could have been far, far worse but,

of course, as six individuals no doubt will bear the physical scars and quite likely the psychological scars for some considerable time. videos posted again online show at least one or two people being taken out of that supermarket on a stretcher and i think what this may well do for the broader new zealand community, many of which are still under a covid—19lockdown, it will raise some very painful memories of those march 2019 attacks on those two mosques in christchurch. that remains new zealand's worst ever terror attack. 51 worshippers killed there but, as i say, this attack in a suburb of auckland will raise and drag up some pretty painful memories. drag up some pretty painful memories-_ drag up some pretty painful memories. ., ~ , ., , drag up some pretty painful memories. . ~' , ., , . memories. phil, thank you very much for that. memories. phil, thank you very much forthat- phil— memories. phil, thank you very much for that. phil mercer. _ here, he government is being urged to increase taxes

to fund social care, amid reports the government is on the verge of signing off a rise of at least 1% in national insurance rates. the former health secretary, jeremy hunt, said the the government must "bite the bullet" and raise taxes because the sums needed for both nhs funding and social care were "eyewatering". but any increase in national insurance or income tax would breach the commitment the conservatives made in their election manifesto. let's get more on this from our political correspondent, jonathan blake. borisjohnson has spoken on numerous occasions about reforming social care and how it is paid for as indeed have his predecessors. and we now going to have a plan? i indeed have his predecessors. and we now going to have a plan?— now going to have a plan? i don't think it will _ now going to have a plan? i don't think it will be — now going to have a plan? i don't think it will be long _ now going to have a plan? i don't think it will be long before - now going to have a plan? i don't think it will be long before we - now going to have a plan? i don't think it will be long before we do | think it will be long before we do hear the plan. borisjohnson, as you suggest, when he first became prime minister in 2019 stood outside number ten and said he would fix the problem of social car once and for all and ever since people have been waiting to see what his plan is and how he plans to do that and, that more importantly, how he plans to

pay for it. there is no denialfrom downing street this morning that the chancellor, the prime minister, the health secretary have been discussing a rising national insurance is one possible way to do that. the figures involved barely and i'm told no final decisions have been made but if that were to be what the government went forward with it would break a manifesto commitment made by the conservatives at the last election not surveys income tax, vat or national insurance. all that having been said, i think there is an understanding that a tax rise of some sort is the only way to do this because of the sums of money needed, so i think we are being prepared, the public is being prepared for that argument to be made in that case to be put. somebody he was having his say is the former conservative health secretaryjeremy conservative health secretary jeremy hunt, conservative health secretaryjeremy hunt, arguing not for national insurance rise, because he says that would disproportionately impact your younger people, whether it is older people who make the most use of

social care, but he does, though, say, that a tax rise is the only way. i think the answer is a health and care premium, something that could help relieve the pressure on the nhs in the short—term, but then move into the transformation of the social care system weak kneed ——then move into the transformation of the social care system we need in the more medium—term. i think the answer is a health and care premium, something that could help relieve the pressure on the nhs in the short—term, but then move into the transformation of the social care system we need in the more medium—term. so, health and care premium being suggested. however it is presented or pitched it will be a tax rise of some sort, though, and thejustice secretary robert buckland was asked this morning on the steve breakfast about those reports that it could be set to rise and when he would be comfortable with that. i think what we said in the manifesto about social care

was that no—one has a monopoly of wisdom about these issues, and the british public are sensible enough to know that when it comes to the issue of social care we've got to find some way in which it will be adequately funded. now, as i said, i'm not going to, you know, start speculating as to precisely what that will entail. but, you know, having a grown—up conversation with people is what we should be doing — and i'm glad to say that that certainly is happening in the context of social care. so, jonathan, whether this is pitched as a tax increase over the health care premium, obvious it all has to be paid for by the taxpayer, doesn't it, so how awkward is this going to be full borisjohnson in terms of presenting this given manifesto commitments? well, it will be awkward and _ manifesto commitments? well, it will be awkward and it _ manifesto commitments? well, it will be awkward and it will _ manifesto commitments? well, it will be awkward and it will be _ manifesto commitments? well, it will be awkward and it will be difficult - be awkward and it will be difficult and it will have to make the case because there appears to be no other way that he can keep his promise that he made when he became prime minister to fix the problem of social care once and for all without

breaking the southern promise that he made at the election just a few months later in the conservative party manifesto not surveys vat, national insurance or income tax and if it doesn't look that the government proposes doing just that and he's going to have to argue very strongly that it is the only possible way and the right way to do it. we already seen the political debate playing out. labour said this morning that a rise in national insurance would hit working people had and accusing the conservatives of mismanaging the nhs and social care but it will be very hard for labour to argue against our vote against or disagree with a properly funded plan to reform the social care sector particularly and increase funding for the nhs which is something that across the political divide and is in agreement that it has to happen. as to exactly how it will be done and how it will be paid for, well, no decision made just yet but we could see a decision and an announcement as early as next

week. {eek and an announcement as early as next week. , ., . . and an announcement as early as next week. g ., ., ., ., ~ , ., , week. 0k jonathan, thank you very much. jonathan _ week. 0k jonathan, thank you very much. jonathan blake, _ week. ok jonathan, thank you very much. jonathan blake, our- week. 0k jonathan, thank you very j much. jonathan blake, our political correspondent. paul burstow is the chair of the social care institute for excellence. he is also a former liberal democrat mp and was the minister for care services in the coalition government between 2010—2012. thank you very much forjoining us this morning on bbc news. so, jeremy hunt, former health secretary describing the sums needed to reform social care and deal with nhs backlogs as eye watering, not the sort of money the chancellor is going to find and the back of the sofa, he says. i would you think these reforms, these changes, should be funded? i these reforms, these changes, should be funded? ., , be funded? i think the first thing to sa is be funded? i think the first thing to say is we _ be funded? i think the first thing to say is we need _ be funded? i think the first thing to say is we need reform - be funded? i think the first thing to say is we need reform and - be funded? i think the first thing to say is we need reform and we | be funded? i think the first thing - to say is we need reform and we need investment in social care now. we are seeing a crisis in the workforce in terms of the number of people that are leaving social care and contracts providing care being handed back to local councils so we've had a very long—term underfunded system where we have effectively had 30 years of sticking

plaster solution is and what we need now is a long—term funding session and of course that is going to cost money and that money in the end will either come out of us all paying more charges after being means tested to access social care or it will come from is pulling the risks, sharing the cost to make sure we provide a dignified and good social care system and that is taxation if one is also another.— one is also another. however it is branded, it _ one is also another. however it is branded. it is _ one is also another. however it is branded, it is taxation _ one is also another. however it is branded, it is taxation as - one is also another. however it is branded, it is taxation as you - one is also another. however it is branded, it is taxation as you say| branded, it is taxation as you say of one source or another whether it is national insurance of a health and care premium. what do you see is the distinction is, though, over how this might be funded in terms of who will be paying for it? i this might be funded in terms of who will be paying for it?— will be paying for it? i think it is important _ will be paying for it? i think it is important to — will be paying for it? i think it is important to know _ will be paying for it? i think it is important to know that - will be paying for it? i think it is important to know that the - will be paying for it? i think it is important to know that the vast| important to know that the vast majority now of spending on social care by local authorities over 50% as people with learning disabilities are adults, not older people so i think it is misleading to

characterise this as being all about care for older people. it is about care for older people. it is about care for older people. it is about care for people throughout their aduu care for people throughout their adult lives in need at the port and thatis adult lives in need at the port and that is why i think we can argue for a range of progressive tax measures. jeremy hunt is certainly right to talk about some funds but we know the treasury absolutely hate earmarked taxes and in the end whether it is air max are not the point is we need to deal with the fact we have the meanest of means tests for social care, we have a system that needs to be stabilised but it also needs to be performed. so it is delivering better quality care and a better experience. at the moment a number of things are being needed for many, many people. does the government _ needed for many, many people. does the government need _ needed for many, many people. does the government need to look at generational fairness with this because some people will say they are younger, paying taxes, trying to get on the property ladder, probably have an and they are saying why should i pay more for services that will benefit older people? now, i know you have just made the point

that we are talking about younger adults as well but will, for example, older people who might need those services more immediately, would be cap on how much someone is expected to pay for social care in their lifetime also go up? show that also go up to you, kind of, balance fairness between the generations? i think the point i'm making a behalf of the social care institute for the excellent is we don'tjust need to implement the andrew deal not cap on care costs and also make the means test favour, we need to make the system fairer for those people who can't afford to pay for social care for themselves, can't afford to pay for social care forthemselves, people can't afford to pay for social care for themselves, people who are working age adults, may be living with a learning disability or needing some of support being able to get on with their own everyday lives and yes, that is something which we as a whole society need to pay for and that is why anything we do need to look at a full range of tax measures that can actually pay for it but the bottom line is we shouldn't allow the debate about taxation to get in the way of the fact that we need a long—term plan

that will improve access to quality and experience of care and also fix the crisis in the workforce. ii rare the crisis in the workforce. if we think about _ the crisis in the workforce. if we think about health _ the crisis in the workforce. if we think about health care - the crisis in the workforce. if we think about health care is - the crisis in the workforce. if we think about health care is an - think about health care is an ecosystem how important is it that the government gets this right this time? , , , ., time? yes, this is also where i disauree time? yes, this is also where i disagree slightly _ time? yes, this is also where i disagree slightly with - time? yes, this is also where i disagree slightly with jeremy l time? yes, this is also where i - disagree slightly with jeremy hunt. jeremy disagree slightly withjeremy hunt. jeremy hunt is talking disagree slightly with jeremy hunt. jeremy hunt is talking about the money going first to address immediate pressures on the nhs and of course there are immediate pressures on the nhs but that is the way you kick this can down the road yet again. we actually need the investment in social care now, not waiting for the health service to be... the queue and i think that is whether conversation is so important. if you want to invest in social k likely undermine and increase the cost and health care system. that is why we really do need this long—term plan for social care. the nhs has had a long—term plan and funding to back it for the last few years. it is about time social care after 30 years had that stability and certainty to reform and improve his quality of care.

paul, thank you very much for your post this morning. chair of the social care institute for excellence. the foreign secretary dominic raab is in pakistan for talks on how to secure safe passage out of afghanistan for people who are eligible to settle in the uk. after meeting quatari officials to discuss the crisis yesterday, dominic raab is holding talks with his pakistani counterpart and other senior leaders. ministers are hoping to secure agreements to process refugees in countries neighbouring afghanistan, with reports of many people gathering at pakistan's border since the taliban regained control of the country. joining me now from lahore in pakistan is ahmed rashid, a journalist and author of several books about afghanistan and the taliban. mr shead, very good to have you with us on bbc news today. no doubt the uk will see pakistan as a key player in efforts to moderate the taliban.

0bviously, in efforts to moderate the taliban. obviously, there is a relationship between members of the taliban in pakistan as well so how do you think dominic raab is going to be received in pakistan today?— in pakistan today? well, i think she will be received _ in pakistan today? well, i think she will be received very _ in pakistan today? well, i think she will be received very well. - in pakistan today? well, i think she will be received very well. pakistan| will be received very well. pakistan is very anxious to get help and support for the flood of refugees that have expected to come because of the humanitarian crisis in campbell and other cities in afghanistan and the lack of food. people will be flooding into pakistan and there is, at the moment, the government is very reluctant to allow the men. there are lots of people gathering at the border. but if there is going to be some aid forthcoming from the european union countries, the united states and others, then i think pakistan may be persuaded to open the gates for a while to allow afghans to come in. but, remember, they are already about 3 million

refugees here from the previous wars and pakistan is finding it very difficult to deal with those quite apart from the new ones. the un talks about _ apart from the new ones. the un talks about 2.2 _ apart from the new ones. the un talks about 2.2 million _ apart from the new ones. the un talks about 2.2 million afghan . talks about 2.2 million afghan refugees as a result of this current crisis. 0bviously refugees as a result of this current crisis. obviously not all of these on pakistan was �*s bodies but how much pakistan dharma capacity does pakistan have to absorb more refugees?— refugees? very little because afghanistan, _ refugees? very little because afghanistan, pakistan - refugees? very little because afghanistan, pakistan is- refugees? very little because afghanistan, pakistan is also| refugees? very little because - afghanistan, pakistan is also facing a huge economic crisis. we are massively in debt, we don't have any money and past experience shows that donors come on in the beginning and give money and aid but don't sustain that especially if refugees like the former refugees who were escaping the soviet invasion in the 1980s, especially if those refugees are going to be here for a very long time. it was mark a very big crisis

and the taliban are not doing very much to persuade people not to go and not to leave their country and not to leave afghanistan and people are scared, they are so very scared of the taliban and that's why they are tending to leave.— of the taliban and that's why they are tending to leave. let's explore that a bit more. _ are tending to leave. let's explore that a bit more. you _ are tending to leave. let's explore that a bit more. you talk - are tending to leave. let's explore that a bit more. you talk about. are tending to leave. let's explore | that a bit more. you talk about the ever of the soviets in afghanistan. using the taliban and ascendancy twice now, first after the soviets left afghanistan and again now. are there any differences in attitudes and the taliban today compared to 20 years ago that you can see? weill. and the taliban today compared to 20 years ago that you can see?— years ago that you can see? well, i mean, years ago that you can see? well, i mean. that — years ago that you can see? well, i mean. that is _ years ago that you can see? well, i mean, that is the _ years ago that you can see? well, i mean, that is the question - years ago that you can see? well, i mean, that is the question as - years ago that you can see? well, i mean, that is the question as you | mean, that is the question as you can imagine i get all the time but clearly there are some changes. what they are saying is a far more moderate version of the taliban then we had in the early 90s. they have given this amnesty to members of the former regime, they say they are not after prosecuting anyone, executing

anyone, and they've given suggestions that education will continue. they are still a bit double minded about the issue with women but all this at the moment is words and we have to see what deeds the taliban actually come up with. yes, and there is no government yes of course, so to interrupt, no government but does the taliban have expertise to actually run the country to deal with, for example, humanitarian crisis?— humanitarian crisis? well, i think that is the _ humanitarian crisis? well, i think that is the most _ humanitarian crisis? well, i think that is the most relevant - humanitarian crisis? well, i think| that is the most relevant question which, quite frankly, no. they didn't have expertise last time and they don't seem to have produced many bureaucrats are well educated technical people who can deal with the government, who can deal with the government, who can deal with the food crisis or an electricity crisis and last time the taliban just did very little for the public

and that's why their overflow was very welcome after 9/11. this time, they really are now saddled with having to run the government and we are not seeing any real potential technocrats or technicians who are clued up about being able to run a government. clued up about being able to run a government-— clued up about being able to run a government. ., ., , ., , , government. how do you see the rest ofthe government. how do you see the rest of the world, — government. how do you see the rest of the world. to _ government. how do you see the rest of the world, to varying _ government. how do you see the rest of the world, to varying degrees, - of the world, to varying degrees, doing business with the taliban? and how do you do business with the taliban in this new reality which the uk government, is the face of the uk government, is the face of the uk government is using? i think, ou know, the uk government is using? i think, you know. all— the uk government is using? i think, you know, all the _ the uk government is using? i think, you know, all the heads _ the uk government is using? i think, you know, all the heads of _ the uk government is using? i think, you know, all the heads of states, i you know, all the heads of states, help foreign ministers who will be spooking have been saying we want to see taliban deeds rather than just their words and i think that is true of britain also. but, you know it is a very difficult thing because there is a loss of fear and hatred for the

taliban and at the same time they do have a support base in the country which can't be ignored and foreign powers are very keen to help as far as especially the humanitarian relief, food and other things are concerned because, really, there's a pending crisis now. there's no cash and there's no food and the public want answers, which, perhaps the taliban may not be able to provide. so there is a gateway there. that is leverage which the west has with the taliban, the released of funds held by the imf and the world bank and the arrival of food once the airport is functioning and so i think the west can use the average of help and aid in the last thing anyone wants to see right now are millions of afghans starving and not having water, electricity or anything else.

very good to get your expertise today. thank you very much ahmed rashid, journalist and author of a number of books about afghanistan and the taliban. at least 45 people have now died after heavy rainfall and flash flooding across four northeastern us states. new york and newjersey have both announced a state of emergency, while president biden has called for the us to better prepare for climate change. 0ur north america correspondent, peter bowes, reports. a disaster that unfolded in minutes and claimed lives in several north—east states. the catastrophic flooding caused by remnants of hurricane ida came out of the blue and caught new yorkers off guard. streets were turned into rivers and subway services forced to close down as water cascaded onto trains. many of those who died perished in their basements, unable to escape. this is new york's central park, submerged after the worst flooding in a lifetime.

i've been here more than 20 years and never seen the park like this, all flooded up everywhere. there's the fountain, never been flooded up like that. you've seen a lot of trees fallen down. like, this is pretty crazy. it is a similar story in philadelphia, with water as far as the eye can see, engulfing communities. some people had to be rescued from their homes by boats. with the death toll still rising in new orleans after hurricane ida struck with its full force on sunday and 50,000 people evacuated from parts of northern california because of a massive forest fire this week, america is feeling the full wrath of extreme climate—related events. i've lived in new york for 40—some odd years, and, obviously, things are changing, so... and i love south lake tahoe,

and we're seeing that burn down right now, too, so the whole west is in big trouble with... wouldn't it be great if we could take all this rain and put it into california, for crying out loud, right? it all points to one thing, says president biden. the past few days of hurricane ida, and the wildfires in the west and the unprecedented flash floods in new york and newjersey, is yet another reminder that these extreme storms and the climate crisis are here. a crisis on multiple fronts, and an urgency to tackle climate change like never before. peter bowes, bbc news. borisjohnson has described racist chanting by hungary fans during last night's world cup qualifier in budapest as "completely unacceptable". england players werejeered before kick—off when they took the knee in protest against racism, and had objects thrown at them from the stands during the game. england won the match 4—0. both the prime minister and the football association have called on fifa to take action against those responsible.

possession of laughing gas could become a crime under new government plans, after a rise in use among young people. it's currently illegal to sell nitrous oxide — to give it its full name — but it's not a crime to possess it. more than half a million 16—to—24—year olds used the drug in the last year, according to the latest crime survey. let's talk now to the former chairman of the advisory council on the misuse of drugs professor david nutt, professor of neuropsycho—pharmacology at imperial college london. professor note, thanks forjoining us. should this be made a crime, possessing laughing gas? it us. should this be made a crime, possessing laughing gas? it would be comletel possessing laughing gas? it would be completely ridiculous _ possessing laughing gas? it would be completely ridiculous and _ possessing laughing gas? it would be completely ridiculous and utterly - completely ridiculous and utterly disproportionate to the hams. there has been a campaign to try and get laughing gas illegalfor the last has been a campaign to try and get laughing gas illegal for the last 20 years or so and i think it isjust part of this misunderstanding that you can ban your way out of drug use. —— disproportionate to the

harms. what we have to reflect on is why young people are using loving us and they are using it because it is safer than alcohol. they have worked out it is better for them to have a short lived hi from laughing gas than to be drunk and have all the consequences on farms that come from that. but consequences on farms that come from that. �* ., consequences on farms that come from that. �* . ., , ., that. but there are families who have lost loved _ that. but there are families who have lost loved ones _ that. but there are families who have lost loved ones to - that. but there are families who have lost loved ones to nitrousl have lost loved ones to nitrous oxide is what would you say to them? they may welcome this review on the idea of criminalising and possessing the gas? idea of criminalising and possessing the as? , , the gas? they might well commit but the gas? they might well commit but the would the gas? they might well commit but they would be — the gas? they might well commit but they would be wrong _ the gas? they might well commit but they would be wrong to _ the gas? they might well commit but they would be wrong to do _ the gas? they might well commit but they would be wrong to do that. - the gas? they might well commit but they would be wrong to do that. i - they would be wrong to do that. i would say two deaths a year from laughing gas and 28,000 deaths a yearfrom alcohol focus laughing gas and 28,000 deaths a year from alcohol focus should be on alcohol. the focus on laughing gas has been fuelled by the media. it is largely an attack on football who realise they can take laughing gas and still play the next day whether they get drunk i know over mps them. this law suggests that the

government is doing something about the dog problem but nitrous oxide isn't the drug problem, the drug problem is the deaths from heroin in fentanyl. year—on—year we have the highest number of deaths and those drugs, 4000 last year. we should be focused on drugs that are killing people not drugs used to fund but are relatively harmless. see people not drugs used to fund but are relatively harmless.— are relatively harmless. see think this is a distraction _ are relatively harmless. see think this is a distraction from - are relatively harmless. see think this is a distraction from those . this is a distraction from those dogs that you mentioned. what you think should be doing in terms of tackling the root causes of drug abuse whatever that drug is? i want abuse whatever that drug is? i want a proportionate _ abuse whatever that drug is? i want a proportionate response _ abuse whatever that drug is? i want a proportionate response of- abuse whatever that drug is? i want a proportionate response of the - a proportionate response of the harms of the drugs. we know how to reduce deaths from heroin, cocaine and fentanyl and we should be bringing back policies that work so we should be bringing back policies that get people into treatment quickly and we should be for biting antidotes like naloxone so they are available everywhere they are needed and, essentially, we should restore addiction treatment to the status it used to have before david cameron moved it out of health and into

social services and therefore reduce the funding by 50%. find social services and therefore reduce the funding by 50%.— the funding by 50%. and there we come back to _ the funding by 50%. and there we come back to the _ the funding by 50%. and there we come back to the question - the funding by 50%. and there we come back to the question of- come back to the question of funding, something we are talking about today in relation to social care, of course, but how much is funding the cut for the sort of treatment?— funding the cut for the sort of treatment? . , , ., ., treatment? oh, it has been more than half and the — treatment? oh, it has been more than half and the majority _ treatment? oh, it has been more than half and the majority of _ treatment? oh, it has been more than half and the majority of addiction - half and the majority of addiction psychiatrist in this country are no longer employed by the nhs because they have been made redundant. we have seen a slaughter at the capacity to help people with addiction and that is where we should be putting our efforts, not in some sort of gesture of whether to make another drug illegal when it is actually a trivial drug that causes very little harm. professor nutt, causes very little harm. professor nutt. professor— causes very little harm. professor nutt, professor of _ nutt, professor of psychopharmacology in imperial couege psychopharmacology in imperial college london. thanks very much. now it's time for a look at the weather with matt. good morning. it's great for many at the moment but there will be some

sunshine today. we already have its southern counties of england, parts of western scotland, may be northern ireland, the isle of man, this area best for the sunny breaks. lots of cloud elsewhere, rather cool, even some drizzle in north, north—east england, we will see temperatures and high teens and low 20s in the sun. plenty of cloud in place tonight but in the breaks, particularly across wales in the south, with light winds it could be a few mist and fog patches but it will not be a cold start to the weekend. temperatures in double figures for the vast majority as we start saturday. 0nce figures for the vast majority as we start saturday. once again commit grey skies. you can see the extent of the cloud on the map. could be one or two isolated showers, western isles, northern ireland. sunshine in the midlands and the wales today with the north—east of scotland and as we head into next week, particularly. some somebody briefly back, see you in half an hour.

hello, this is bbc news. the headlines... new zealand police have shot and killed a "violent extremist" who stabbed and wounded at least six people in an auckland supermarket. there are calls for the government to break a manifesto promise by raising taxes to fund improvements to social care. the foreign secretary dominic raab is in pakistan for talks on how to secure safe passage out of afghanistan for people who are eligible to settle in the uk. a new criminal offence of pet abduction is set to be introduced in england, under plans to tackle a reported rise in the number of pets being stolen. and we'll have more on this story shortly. time for the sports now. let's joined mike. good morning. it's been another golden morning for paralympics gb — golds coming in athletics

and a first at these games in paracanoe, while there was another silver in the table tennis doubles for will bayley. 0ur sports reporter rachel latham is in tokyo and can give us more details. first of all it may be on the significance of that paracanoe gold medal. , ., ., significance of that paracanoe gold medal. , . ., ., medal. yes, and that weeks went for great britain — medal. yes, and that weeks went for great britain in _ medal. yes, and that weeks went for great britain in the _ medal. yes, and that weeks went for great britain in the para _ medal. yes, and that weeks went for great britain in the para canoe. - medal. yes, and that weeks went for great britain in the para canoe. she l great britain in the para canoe. she has competed in it before at the olympics but they are in different 0lympics but they are in different category, the first time it was going to be hosted at the paralympic games. it was very emotional when as she crossed the line. she said she had always planned and she stuck to it and it paid off. this is her third paralympic games. in london she was in the sitting volleyball, moved over to canoe after london 2012. she said she has been able to enjoy these games than most because she has really learned what the paralympics is all about and how she can perform on the world stage. it was also a gold rush at the

athletics. when miller in the 1500 metres, a surprise gold medal for him. he has been competing for great britain for nearly ten years that he has never been on the paralympic team before it but he showed his worth today by winning the gold medal in his paralympic debut. also becoming paralympic champion for the first time today it was jonathon broom—edwards. very much like emma wiggs, he was emotional. he said it was a long time waiting to see other competitors jump. was a long time waiting to see other competitorsjump. but when he finally realised he had jumped the highest and he was setting the gold he couldn't hold it in his emotion came out on top of the medal podium. plenty more possibly to come today. it could be another goal. finally balanced at the wheelchair tennis final and the semifinal later in tae kwon do with the sport making it

paralympic debut. the first time you will see tae kwon do at the paralympics and beth munro goes today for great britain. she has already gone in the quarterfinals this morning. she will have the semi finals later and if she winds she will be into the gold medal match later this evening so we will keep our eyes on her. also this afternoon it will beat the athletics. the four by 100 metres mixed relay. jonnie peacock will be in that, as well as libby clegg. bequite's brother will also be going tonight for great britain in the swimming pool. his most favoured event, the 100 metres butterfly. he is the world record—holder and will be hoping to take gold in that event to add to the medals he has already won here in tokyo.— won here in tokyo. fantastic. imaaine won here in tokyo. fantastic. imagine brother _ won here in tokyo. fantastic. imagine brother and - won here in tokyo. fantastic. imagine brother and sister i won here in tokyo. fantastic. l imagine brother and sister both winning medals tonight. thank you very much. last night's events in hungary dominate the sports news and the fall out has started, with fifa launching a full investigation, into the behaviour of some of the fans in budapest. england players raheem sterling and jude bellingham were racially

abused, while raheem sterling who opened the scoring in the second half, was pelted by paper and plastic cups and bottles thrown from the crowd. later on, after harry kane and harry maguire had scored, came the rascist abuse. the crowd not concerned, it seems, by the threat of more action, after uefa ordered matches in budapest, to be played behind closed doors in its competitions after rascist abuse at the euros. that didn't apply to the world cup qualifiers. declan rice rounded off a comfortable victory and the organisation kick it out said while it was appalled, it was proud of the strength, grace and integrity, shown by england's players. after the match, manager gareth southgate called for action from fifa. the fa issued a statement

saying that it was extremely disappointed. kalvin phillips tweeted, "proud of our boys, the best response to some of the crowd, hate willl never win." it was a brilliant night for northern ireland, who also scored four and secured their first win of qualifying to keep themselves in the running for a play—off place at the least. and there were four different scorers in the win in lithuania. they next face switzerland at home on wednesday. if they win that, they'll move up to second in group c. novak djokovic's quest to win all the tennis grand slams in a calendar year continues. but his straight sets win against tallon griekspoor was interrupted by heckling from a fan in the crowd — which the world number one was far from happy about. he ended up winning in straight sets and will face kye nishikori in the third round. afterwards he addressed the behaviour of the supporter. i have tolerance up to a certain point and it is not correct, not fine. it is not fair. ifeel like...

it is not good for us players, particularly that guy was, for some reason, you know, calling it... you know, releasing the sound and screaming just before i hit my smash stop before that he would do it a few times. after that again. so i think, you know, that wasn't nice, that's all. day two of the fourth test at the oval gets under way in just under an hour and a half's time, with things delicately poised between england and india. the hosts will resume on 53—3 — still 138 runs behind england dismissed india for 191 after winning the toss yesterday. 0llie robinson got the crucial wicket of captain virat kohli who made 50. england struggled though when it was their turn to bat. both the openers went with just six runs on the board. dawid malan and joe root repaired the damage, but root wentjust before the close for 21 leaving things

fascinatingly balanced. all to play for. that's what we want to see. that's all the sport for now. thank you very much. a member of the islamic state group who grew up in london has pleaded guilty to eight charges in the united states including conspiring to murder american hostages in syria. alexanda kotey was in a gang of militants who were given the nickname the beatles by their prisoners because of their british accents. acting us attorney raj parekh spoke at a news conference after the guilty plea. contrary to the propaganda perpetuated by isis, we have given alexanda kotey the opportunity to face justice. kotey has been afforded due process and, in the face of overwhelming evidence, he made the independent decision to plead guilty to his crimes.

thejustice, fairness and humanity that this defendant received in the united states stand in stark contrast to the cruelty, inhumanity and indiscriminate violence touted by the terrorist organisation that he espoused. 0ur washington correspondent nomia iqbal has more on the background to this case. this goes all the way back to 2014, when isis were making headlines due to the atrocities they were committing, they were pushing out those awful propaganda videos where they could be seen killing western hostages. now, one of the men accused of murder is alexanda kotey. he was brought to the us last year to face murder charges. he's accused of murdering four americans — two of them journalists called james foley and steven sotloff — and theirfamilies were in court to hear kotey�*s plea. and he's also connected with the deaths of two british men — alan henning and david haines. now, in court, he accepted

the charges and the judge said he is now cooperating with prosecutors, which means he could be telling them what happened, what he did, and — crucially — where the victims are buried. now, there is another man who was facing trial alongside him — a man called el shafee el sheikh — but he's not indicated if he has taken a plea deal. now, both men do face sentencing next year. they won't face the death penalty — that was part of the agreement that the us made with the uk in order to extradite them in the first place. the maximum penalty they face is life in jail. the time is 9:43am. pet abduction will be made a criminal offence in england, under new government proposals to tackle a surge in thefts. it is hoped the plans will make it harder for thieves to steal and sell animals — after figures showed 2,000 dogs were reported stolen last year. 0ur correspondent duncan kennedy reports.

barking. there are 12 million dogs in the uk — their status among many families going way beyond pet. but today's new figures show that 2000 dogs were reported stolen last year. when your dogs are stolen it is devastating for anybody who's has had a dog stolen, they will immediately know, for anybody who has a dog or a cat, you know how much you love them, they are priceless, irreplaceable members of our family. it's devastating what happens to families. yet until now there's been no specific law to cover stolen pets. today the government says it is to change that, to make it a criminal offence to abduct a pet. as a way of recognising the emotional pain caused to owners. when you have the abduction and the theft of a pet, it is of a very different order, it causes huge trauma for the family who lose that loved pet,

but also can cause trauma for the animal as well, so what we're doing today is recognising that, creating a specific offence of pet abduction, and i think that will make it easier to record this crime, keep track of it, but also easier to prosecute it as well. it was a government task force that came up with today's recommendations. as well as a new pet abduction offence, the garment also wants to make pet microchip databases more accessible and pet owners would have to register additional details to improve the data surrounding pet ownership. this is an issue that dogs trust and many charities have been calling on for many years, we know dog owners are extremely worried about this issue at the moment, and one dog stolen is too many, so we would like to see urgent action and the recommendations that have been outlined today to be taken forward as quickly as possible. the police say many dogs are stolen so thieves can make money from their puppies. which have been in huge demand during the pandemic. the aim of the new law is to make it clear that pets

are more than just property. duncan kennedy, bbc news. i'm joined now by chris sherwood, the chief executive of the rspca. thank you for talking to us. i'm sure you welcome this news because when a pet is stolen we are talking an emotional impact that probably and often goes way beyond an inanimate possession being stolen. absolutely. we really welcome the report from the pet theft task force. this is a really big task force. this is a really big task force across government involving notjust government departments but also the police and taking evidence from us in the animal welfare sector. and seeing this new pet adoption offence is to be welcomed. 0ur pets are more than just objects. we treat pets as we would treat someone stealing a microwave. they are sentient beings and we are pleased to see the focus on the

impact of pet theft both on pets but also families. as your report said, this is a rising problem. we saw huge demand for pets, particularly puppies and dogs, during the pandemic. alongside that legitimate purchase of puppies and dogs, we have seen a rise in illegal smuggling of dogs and puppies during the pandemic and sadly arise in the number of beloved pets being stolen. and clearly stolen by people with little concern for the welfare of the animals, all about making money. at the moment, what happens to someone if they steal pets and are caught? fist someone if they steal pets and are cau . ht? �* someone if they steal pets and are cau~ht? �* ., caught? at the moment, under the current law. _ caught? at the moment, under the current law. if _ caught? at the moment, under the current law, if someone _ caught? at the moment, under the current law, if someone is - caught? at the moment, under the current law, if someone is caught l current law, if someone is caught from stealing a pet they will be tried under left law and the focus of the court will be on the financial value of the dog or puppy. what has been welcomed by what the government is announcing today if they want to bring forward a new offence meaning courts will be able to take into consideration the impact of that theft both on the

animal itself and will take into account whether there has been cruelty to the pet, but also the emotional impact on the family. last year we saw around 2000 reports of dogsin year we saw around 2000 reports of dogs in particular being stolen. that is 2000 families, over 2000 animals who have been affected by this crime. enabling courts to take into consideration a broader range of things is to be welcomed. we don't accept under new the maximum sentence of theft —— we don't expect the centre to be increased but we hope the quiz will take into consideration the broader range of factors and hands down topic sentences because we need this law to be a deterrent to.— to be a deterrent to. which brings me to my next — to be a deterrent to. which brings me to my next question, - to be a deterrent to. which brings me to my next question, crucially| to be a deterrent to. which brings i me to my next question, crucially do you think these changes will be enough to actually deter criminals from stealing dogs? i enough to actually deter criminals from stealing dogs?— enough to actually deter criminals from stealing dogs? i think tougher sentencin: from stealing dogs? i think tougher sentencing by _ from stealing dogs? i think tougher sentencing by courts _ from stealing dogs? i think tougher sentencing by courts and _ from stealing dogs? i think tougher sentencing by courts and the - from stealing dogs? i think tougher sentencing by courts and the fact i sentencing by courts and the fact that this new law will take into consideration a broad range of factors can definitely act as a deterrent but that is only part of

the picture. the other part of the picture is awareness by the public. 0ne picture is awareness by the public. one of the messages we in government are trying to get out today is that there are things you can do. don't tie your dog up outside a shop when you are going to purchase items. make sure if your dog is in your garden then it is a secure guide. there are things you can do and if you want some advice look at the rspca website, luke russe website, where you will see information about how to avoid your beloved pet being stolen. we do think that is important. the other thing that is imported from today is that we do think there is underreporting about this crime taking place and creation of the new offence will mean police forces across the country are recording better data so we get a sense of the scale of this problem across the country, as well. that is also welcome from what the government is announcing today. bill government is announcing today. all good advice stop thank you for joining us. chris sherwood, ceo of the rspca. let's go to pakistan now where foreign secretary dominic raab is giving a press conference,

where he's been for talks on how to secure safe passage for afghans eligible to settle in the uk he was in qatar yesterday so we are just seeing if we can listen into this news conference now as the foreign secretary tries to work with partners in the region to secure safe passage for uk nationals and afghans who wish to leave afghanistan.— afghans who wish to leave afr hanistan. , ., afghans who wish to leave afr hanistan. , . ., afghanistan. there is a meeting that has been arranged _ afghanistan. there is a meeting that has been arranged on _ afghanistan. there is a meeting that has been arranged on monday. - afghanistan. there is a meeting that has been arranged on monday. a - has been arranged on monday. a doctor_ has been arranged on monday. a doctor will— has been arranged on monday. a doctor will be representing pakistan and putting forward pakistan's point of view_ and putting forward pakistan's point of view and i would also suggest a number— of view and i would also suggest a number of— of view and i would also suggest a number of steps that can be taken. it number of steps that can be taken. it will— number of steps that can be taken. it will make — number of steps that can be taken. it will make both sides comfortable and how— it will make both sides comfortable and how to deal and how to overcome this challenge and how to get pakistan— this challenge and how to get pakistan into the amber list. 0n the

whole _ pakistan into the amber list. 0n the whole it_ pakistan into the amber list. 0n the whole it was a frank, candid discussion, and thank you for coming _ discussion, and thank you for cominu. ., ., discussion, and thank you for cominu. ., ,, i. discussion, and thank you for cominu. ., ~' ,, , discussion, and thank you for cominu. ., ,, ,, , . , coming. thank you very much. first of all, coming. thank you very much. first of all. can — coming. thank you very much. first of all. can i— coming. thank you very much. first of all. can i say _ coming. thank you very much. first of all, can i say what _ coming. thank you very much. first of all, can i say what a _ coming. thank you very much. first of all, can i say what a pleasure - coming. thank you very much. first of all, can i say what a pleasure it l of all, can i say what a pleasure it is to be here in pakistan, to have a very good constructive cordial meeting with his excellently the foreign minister both on afghanistan but also the opportunities for the bilateral relationship. i look forward to seeing the prime minister later on today. the bedrock, the basis of the uk pakistan relationship is very strong and, like his excellency, the uk has the desire, the will, to take it to the next level. we also have very clear and shared interest in the future of afghanistan. after the kabul el—abd we evacuated over 15,000 people to the uk which was unprecedented for modern times, certainly for the uk. and we are working together to

continue the secured safe passage for those who have not yet made it out of afghanistan, whether they are british nationals or indeed those who have worked for us. it was important to have the opportunity and i am very grateful to the committee to make this possible, to talk as you see for myself the situation on the ground and talk to people on the ground and really understand it at that level. as for the uk, we are very mindful of the situation for afghanistan's out situation for afg hanistan's out neighbours. situation for afghanistan's out neighbours. we will be shouldering our humanitarian responsibilities. we have increased our aid budget for afghanistan this year to £286 million and we will also be supporting those countries who face the greatest demands for those who have been tips placed in the weeks ahead. we have also sent a team, a 15 person rapid deployment team for the region as a whole to make sure we can help with the logistics, the practical arrangements. we also discussed for allowing people safely

and securely to cross borders if it is into a third country is to get back to the uk and that is a way of easing the burden on some of afghanistan's neighbours. and also i am pleased to announced today we are releasing the first tranche of that extra aid money that i mentioned. we are sending up to £30 million of life—saving support afghanistan's life—saving support afg hanistan's are life—saving support afghanistan's are neighbours and that will include pakistan, so that there is the money to provide the basics, shelter, household necessities, sanitation for those who come across the border. we recognise this problem, we want to be part of the solution with such a key partner. we also stand by our commitments for afghanistan's the future. the number of priorities we discussed today, like humanitarian lifetime her life when, preferring preserving stability, holding the telegram to the assurances they have made and

making sure that these followers. and it was making sure afghanistan can and will not be used as a base or a safe haven terrorist groups in the future. it is important for us to all work together to build an international group, coalition around these core elements around safe passage, around all the other elements, strategic and otherwise. whether it is true that g7, nato. we had a recent un security council resolution and of course the regional partners that will be absolutely key to forging a way forward. and pakistan's a supporting role will be vital and if we come together in that way with all of those that are interested and want a positive way forward, we will be able to exercise the maximum moderating and positive influence on the taliban. we have a shared interest in supporting a stable and peaceful future for afghanistan and i thought with a very good conversation we had about the

commonality of interests and how we pursue that going forward. we also discussed all of the bilateral issues that his excellency raised. we listen, we understand the concerns around issues like the red list and all the more important, as close partners, we really intensify the bilateral relationship, particularly with the anniversary for our relations coming next year. thank you very much, it is a great pleasure to be here i am thank you very much. i understand the minister has time for a couple of questions. would you kindly introduce yourself. the gentleman on the left—hand side. ri-ht the gentleman on the left—hand side. right side, _ the gentleman on the left—hand side. right side, sorry. the gentleman on the left-hand side. right side. sorry-— right side, sorry. thank you. mr foreian right side, sorry. thank you. mr foreign secretary, _ right side, sorry. thank you. mr foreign secretary, welcome - right side, sorry. thank you. mr foreign secretary, welcome to l foreign secretary, welcome to pakistan _ foreign secretary, welcome to pakistan i_ foreign secretary, welcome to pakistan. i have _ foreign secretary, welcome to pakistan. i have a _ foreign secretary, welcome to pakistan. i have a question - pakistan. i have a question regarding _ pakistan. i have a question regarding the _ pakistan. i have a question regarding the red - pakistan. i have a question regarding the red list. - pakistan. i have a question regarding the red list. in i pakistan. i have a question. regarding the red list. in the backdrop _ regarding the red list. in the backdrop of— regarding the red list. in the backdrop of the _ regarding the red list. in the backdrop of the red - regarding the red list. in the backdrop of the red list - regarding the red list. in the - backdrop of the red list decision, the relationship _ backdrop of the red list decision, the relationship between - backdrop of the red list decision, l the relationship between pakistan and the _ the relationship between pakistan and the uk, — the relationship between pakistan and the uk, it— the relationship between pakistan and the uk, it seems— the relationship between pakistan and the uk, it seems to _ the relationship between pakistan and the uk, it seems to be - the relationship between pakistan. and the uk, it seems to be strained.

even_ and the uk, it seems to be strained. even people — and the uk, it seems to be strained. even people of— and the uk, it seems to be strained. even people of pakistan _ and the uk, it seems to be strained. even people of pakistan i _ and the uk, it seems to be strained. even people of pakistan i very- and the uk, it seems to be strained. even people of pakistan i very muchl even people of pakistan i very much with this _ even people of pakistan i very much with this decision. _ even people of pakistan i very much with this decision. how _ even people of pakistan i very much with this decision. how can - even people of pakistan i very much with this decision. how can the - even people of pakistan i very much with this decision. how can the ties| with this decision. how can the ties between _ with this decision. how can the ties between the — with this decision. how can the ties between the two _ with this decision. how can the ties between the two friendly _ with this decision. how can the ties between the two friendly countriesl between the two friendly countries the improved? _ between the two friendly countries the improved?— the improved? thank you. i totally understand — the improved? thank you. i totally understand the _ the improved? thank you. i totally understand the impact _ the improved? thank you. i totally understand the impact it _ the improved? thank you. i totally understand the impact it has - the improved? thank you. i totally understand the impact it has on i the improved? thank you. i totally l understand the impact it has on both pakistani and british nationals. 0ur pakistani and british nationals. our community is one way things our relationship is built on the personal relationships between the diaspora of this country and the diaspora in the uk. these things are important. iam diaspora in the uk. these things are important. i am also commending the efforts of the government of pakistan to contain the pandemic. we are working to manage the impact of covid on both countries with a shared interest. it is an international challenge, not domestic or national. we do understand that this is a sensitive and difficult issue. we base our decisions on the technical evidence, scientific basis and i understand thatis scientific basis and i understand that is often contested, which is

all the more reason why i think it is good that pakistan's special adviser will be holding expert level talks with uk public health authorities. we want to find a way through. nobody wants pakistan off the red list more than i do. we take these decisions at a technical level and i think the smart thing for us to do is to work together to enable that to happen as soon as it safely and responsibly can be done. there is a request — and responsibly can be done. there is a request from _ and responsibly can be done. there is a request from the _ and responsibly can be done. there is a request from the centre, - and responsibly can be done. there is a request from the centre, the i is a request from the centre, the lady in _ is a request from the centre, the lady in the — is a request from the centre, the lady in the middle.— is a request from the centre, the lady in the middle. hello. the bbc. the first one _ lady in the middle. hello. the bbc. the first one to _ lady in the middle. hello. the bbc. the first one to the _ lady in the middle. hello. the bbc. the first one to the foreign - the first one to the foreign secretary _ the first one to the foreign secretary. we _ the first one to the foreign secretary. we have - the first one to the foreign secretary. we have seen i the first one to the foreign. secretary. we have seen the the first one to the foreign - secretary. we have seen the talent and issue _ secretary. we have seen the talent and issue a — secretary. we have seen the talent and issue a statement— secretary. we have seen the talent and issue a statement today - and issue a statement today following _ and issue a statement today following the _ and issue a statement today following the meeting - and issue a statement today following the meeting in i and issue a statement today i following the meeting in qatar. and issue a statement today - following the meeting in qatar. can you tell— following the meeting in qatar. can you tell us — following the meeting in qatar. can you tell us if — following the meeting in qatar. can you tell us if anything _ following the meeting in qatar. can you tell us if anything substantial. you tell us if anything substantial came _ you tell us if anything substantial came out— you tell us if anything substantial came out of— you tell us if anything substantial came out of that _ you tell us if anything substantial came out of that meeting - you tell us if anything substantial came out of that meeting with i you tell us if anything substantial. came out of that meeting with three secondly, _ came out of that meeting with three secondly, £286 _ came out of that meeting with three

secondly, £286 million _ came out of that meeting with three secondly, £286 million in _ came out of that meeting with three secondly, £286 million in aid, - came out of that meeting with three secondly, £286 million in aid, who. secondly, £286 million in aid, who will that— secondly, £286 million in aid, who will that be — secondly, £286 million in aid, who will that be handed _ secondly, £286 million in aid, who will that be handed to? _ secondly, £286 million in aid, who will that be handed to? hello, i secondly, £286 million in aid, who will that be handed to? hello, sir. | will that be handed to? hello, sir. can you _ will that be handed to? hello, sir. can you tell— will that be handed to? hello, sir. can you tell me _ will that be handed to? hello, sir. can you tell me if _ will that be handed to? hello, sir. can you tell me if your— will that be handed to? hello, sir. | can you tell me if your relationship with the _ can you tell me if your relationship with the taliban _ can you tell me if your relationship with the taliban is _ can you tell me if your relationship with the taliban is going _ can you tell me if your relationship with the taliban is going to - can you tell me if your relationship with the taliban is going to be i with the taliban is going to be conditions _ with the taliban is going to be conditions —based? _ with the taliban is going to be conditions —based? if- with the taliban is going to be conditions —based? if so, i with the taliban is going to be | conditions —based? if so, what with the taliban is going to be i conditions —based? if so, what will those _ conditions —based? if so, what will those conditions _ conditions —based? if so, what will those conditions be? _ conditions —based? if so, what will those conditions be? thank- conditions —based? if so, what will those conditions be? thank you. . those conditions be? thank you. thank— those conditions be? thank you. thank you — those conditions be? thank you. thank you very _ those conditions be? thank you. thank you very much. _ those conditions be? thank you. thank you very much. we - those conditions be? thank you. thank you very much. we need i those conditions be? thank you. i thank you very much. we need to those conditions be? thank you. - thank you very much. we need to face up thank you very much. we need to face up to the new reality of afghanistan. we have got a new person based in del mar, martin london stop on top of that, the prime minister's special envoy, simon gass. we don't recognise the taliban as a government and the uk doesn't engage in recognising governments as opposed to state. but we do see the importance of being able to engage with a direct line of communication. the reason being is that clearly there are a whole range of issues that need to be discussed, including first and foremost at the moment the question of the safe passage of british nationals and our

afghans who worked for the uk coverage. we need to be able to convey direct messages on these things and there are particular cases outstanding which i will not but we need to have that dialogue. i will say more generally the taliban has made a series of undertakings and some of them are positive at the level of words but we need to test them to see that they translate into deeds. we can't do that unless we have some channel of dialogue. in terms of the aid, there are two areas of focus and again this comes back to the test, is that the early tests of the taliban. nobody wants to see the economic and social fabric of afghanistan collapse. i can't see how that would be in the interest of the taliban, let alone ordinary afghans. we certainly don't want that we would be willing not to fund aid by the taliban but through humanitarian organisations that operate inside afghanistan. for that to happen there needs to be a safe

and secure environment, so again, an early test for the taliban. we are willing to make sure we do our bit with the international community to fund the humanitarian agencies, the life studio: this is bbc news. viewers from bbc world joining bbc news in the uk as we watch this news conference with the british and pakistani foreign minister. brute conference with the british and pakistani foreign minister. we need to make sure _ pakistani foreign minister. we need to make sure we _ pakistani foreign minister. we need to make sure we support _ pakistani foreign minister. we need to make sure we support this i pakistani foreign minister. we need to make sure we support this fight l to make sure we support this fight in the region deal with that and thatis in the region deal with that and that is the holistic and strategic approach we are taking. will relations be conditioned based? when we determine conditions we have to determine choices available. you know, some had the choice of getting out and leaving. we don't that

choice.