the taliban claim to be making advances in the panjshir valley, the only part of afghanistan they don't control. the battle has left hundreds dead. meanwhile the eu and britain have said they won't recognise the taliban government. there's been a sharp slowdown in job creation in the us — coinciding with the spread of the delta variant that's hit but president biden insists the economy remains durable and strong. president biden has arrived in the southern american state of louisiana, where 800 thousand people remain without electricity because of hurricane ida's aftermath. he will survey the damage and highlight the links between extreme weather events and climate change. the prime minister of new zealand, says the sri lankan terrorist who stabbed six people at an auckland supermarket — critically wounding three of them — had been under surveillance since 2016.

at ten o'clockjane hill will be here with a full round up of the days news. first — the media show. hello. to tell the story of the uk more fairly and more equitably there need to be more reporting voices outside london. that seems to be the journalistic mood of the moment. the bbc in march announced plans to shift focus from the capital and i quote" in a commitment to better reflect represent and serve all parts of the country. " and when gb news launched it promising voices from every part of the country and to again quote "reach out to nonmetropolitan audiences beyond london and engagement in our national conversation. " well, the impact of covid and movements like extinction rebellion

or black lives matter, those stories are better told if everyone has an equal stake in them irrespective of where they live. so what does it mean to have a non—london bias when you are reporting the news? the market for producing local news is as tough as it's ever been. so how do you do it? today we hear from four people about their new approaches to reporting across the uk. let me introduce them to you. lorna willis is in norwich and has been ceo of the regional and local news publisher archant since march. nick mitchell is in edinburgh and he is editor of the new website nationalworld a news site by regional reporters. he is involved in a series of new city website and has previously from the scotsman. ifan morganjones in bangor and in 2017 founded nation .com an english language news site in wales. shazia ali is a journalist leading a new initiative for the people's for the people's newsroom in swansea promoting diverse community led journalism. by way of introduction to each

of you, perhaps a story that's currently at the top of your respective news agendas delivered in a short and pithy way. lorna willis, what is top of your agenda in norwichjust now? okay. top of our agenda in norwich would be the nhs in crisis, the nhs at the brink. we have three hospitals really struggling in terms of waiting list at the moment, waiting list i think pre—covid we had 93 people waiting a year for nonessential operations. that's now gone up to 12,008. so we've got three hospitals on the brink, as we would say. nick mitchell at nationalworld, what are you concentrating on? our top story at the moment is actually about the vagrancy act which is a very old piece of legislation which has been found thousands of people are still being prosecuted under this piece of legislation which the housing secretary actually said six months ago

should be abolished. there is some data which has been surfaced today. and something a little bit lighter we've also got the york shire bank c. we got a video report with a street artist making a bit of a name for himself so there's a couple of things for us. ifan morganjones, for you what is top of the agenda? well, that the welsh governments introducing devices, _ i ozone cleaning devices to cleanl classrooms in wales and that has attracted lots of comments, not just from welsh media i but from uk media as well. shazia, i know you're newsroom is still very much but what are you concentrating on despite that? well i'm excited to explore how the migrants have access to the vaccine. we've seen nhs england information about how people don't need

an proof of address or an id to register at gps yet they are still barriers and we need that information to get the people that need it. we need journalist from that of those communities to update that. ——advocate ok, that's a flavour of my four as of the stories were looking at there. lorna, tell us a little bit about argent. the titles in the regions that you cover. archant, we've been around for about a years. we have around 50 newspaper titles which for daily titles, we cover east anglia, the southwest, temperature and a few local titles in london. and if there is a london centric view in the media world, how much damage do you say that does to what you are trying to do and indeed to the coverage of the uk as effectively as it could be done? i think it does the damage is slightly stronger top in terms of national coverage, national coverage is important, to bring stories to the agenda.

what's missing is that local voice. i mentioned the nhs as one of our lead stories, we talked about the nhs over the last 18 months. when we talk about the nhs we are talking our friends, families, our neighbors. we're talking about 12,000 people that will be impacted that we know. so we talk about a story in a local newspaper i think a wonderful quote we had from a rear recently was actually the reason they like new local news is because we learned two or three things we didn't know about the community and how the national agenda is in impacting us. but we also see two or three faces that we don't know. — — do know. so it brings it to life. and i think more than that it allows people to have that voice. i think damage is too far. i think the challenges of whether local communities feel that the being heard. because on your website you talk very much about building communities. and you would argue that regional prints, onlinejournalism plays a big part in that. absolutely. i think particularly

on a local level. we talked earlier about the bbc making a commitment particularly to local news was that i think that's really a challenge in terms of, you look at bbc's impartiality, clause, it's very difficult for them to do what we do locally. 0urjob is to campaign for these local communities and fight for them. i don't believe you can do that with impartiality. an example of that is again talking about local hospitals, we have a hospital in king's lynn where the roof is falling down. it's being held up by over 200 polls. we are campaigning to save that hospital in a way that the bbc will never be able to bring that to life on that national agenda. so while those national stories impact us, ourjob is to really translate those on a local level and allow those local communities to have a voice and for us to campaign forthem. nick, tell us a bit more about national world.

this is a company that bought out jpi media at the end of last year. again, a little bit like lorna, give us a sense of the titles that are currently in your portfolio. i obviously, jpi media is a historicl regional publisher and was bought over by national poc at the time of year. i there are approximately 150 newspaper titles - across the uk that we operate. ranging from the scotsman to the yorkshire post, - a real range of regional, national and local titles. i think the interesting thing| with what we done this year since march is try to take . a new approach with digital first, only publications. so national world was the first . of those to launch in late march. we are now five months in, just over five months - and are getting to the stage now where we are launching - new city brands across somej of the major cities in the uk. so yeah, there is a lot— of competition in the regional media but i think it's an exciting time. and we are trying to do things

a little bit differently. - i want to talk more about those city brands in a moment. but with the launch of nationalworld .com. my understanding of that is that it's a national news site but the contributors are regional reporters. so how does that change the flavour of what you're telling people? it's interesting one. i think we are unique in the sense that we are a national news brand but we are based right across the uk. - so i'm in edinburgh, we have editors in the midlands, york shire, - right across the country. so it's not really the sense - that we covered regional stories, we do pick up on regional stories. we cover the national news agenda but i think we do it _ in a slightly different way. we are not in london, | we are not in that kind of bubble in london. i i think the fact that we are a part| of the jpi network as well gives us a bit more of a sense of what's going on across the country . and the issues that - people really care about.

so we have a really strong data and investigations team - which recently shortlisted, - i think that something we can use effectively when we are looking at regional inequality. - one of the key things for us | is trying to expose examples of the funding inequalities - whether it's the arts, whether it's whether it's arts, issues with leveling up. - we see constant rhetoric of level two leveling up at the moment. i | so we really want to try and get j behind the rhetoric on that line. i was struck again by your website challenging institutions cocooned in the wealth and grandeur of the capital political and cultural and including that media that dictate to the other parts of the nation. that's a pretty strong charge. yeah, we are nothing if not bold. i think that is a really - confident approach to take. and it's something that comes across in the content that we produce. - the stories that we highlight and like i say, ithink- the investigative side of things is really key to us. _ as i say, data journalism i

is something that is a really effective tool for us just to expose the facts behind what some - of the politicians are saying. ifan morganjones, with yours nation. cumbria set up in 2017, again it was there a frustration of london centricity in your mind when this was devised? i don't think it was frustration there was just an awareness in wales we have had since 1999 our own national parliament, we had national parliament set up a 1999 but the media in wales remained relatively weak. the media in wales is always been weakfor historical reasons of course. the relatively poor population in wales means that there's not much of a base from attracting advertising and that has an impact on the strength of the commercial

media in particular. and there was a feeling in that i think there bbc in 2014 and discovered that half the population did not know at that time that the health service in wales was devolved to wales. but that's obviously changed now with the coronavirus pandemic but at the time that struck us in particular as being a democratic deficit. and then an under informed public in wales that we decided to set up this news website in order to bring perhaps welsh politics in a more accessible way. interesting, nick mentioned the pandemic, there pandemic from the point of view of what you're doing i'm guessing is that because the uk as a whole got much more of a sense of the devolved powers of certainly scotland and northern ireland and wales because each country was looking after its own health care up to a point. and we saw for example mark drakeford on national

television much more than we would have normally. did that make a difference to the way people were responding to what you are putting in front of them? it was certainly an explosion of interest in coverage about the time of the start of the coronavirus pandemic. it went up to about 2—over a million a month at this moment. i think that's been a direct impact of the coronavirus pandemic also i don't think anyone will say that the pandemic has been a positive thing but i think that certainly won silver lining that is come out of it has been the fact that there's been much more interest in regional news was a particularly in national news at a local level. shazi ali, how much do the sentiments that you've heard from the other guests tap into some of the other guests tap into some of the things that you're looking to do? , ,., , , do? there is something slightly different, the _ do? there is something slightly different, the people's - do? there is something slightly l different, the people's newsroom do? there is something slightly - different, the people's newsroom was started by the bureau of investigative journalism. that was an initiative to support the sustainability of community journalism. 0ne sustainability of community journalism. one of which i am running on behalf of east wales.

they are the ethnic minority youth and support team. they support all different ethnic communities with up here in swansea and across wales was up here in swansea and across wales was up so the idea behind our newsroom is to tell our own stories, it's a newsroom bill for and by ethnic minority communities. and it's us shaping the narrative and respect us. i shaping the narrative and respect us. ., ., shaping the narrative and respect us, ., ., ., " shaping the narrative and respect us. ., ., ., ~ ., shaping the narrative and respect us. i want to talk to a little bit later on about _ us. i want to talk to a little bit later on about what's - us. i want to talk to a little bit later on about what's driving l us. i want to talk to a little bit - later on about what's driving that. if you look back to your own consumption of the media in the past you would say it doesn't feel as if it's told your story is much as it should have done. and it's your chance to change that. exactly that. lorna, our chat was bought by an equity firm last summer. and now you're looking to turn the business around. but you faced hard times for that. we around. but you faced hard times for that. ~ ~ �* , , that. we did. i think it's been tou~h that. we did. i think it's been tough for _ that. we did. i think it's been tough for all _ that. we did. i think it's been tough for all regional- that. we did. i think it's been i tough for all regional newspaper businesses. the language that we hear around regional press beginning crisis is _ hear around regional press beginning

crisis is somewhere at the mark. i think— crisis is somewhere at the mark. i think that — crisis is somewhere at the mark. i think that archant had been on a good _ think that archant had been on a good trajectory for the last two or three _ good trajectory for the last two or three years in terms of the level of innovation — three years in terms of the level of innovation that we've employed for that we've — innovation that we've employed for that we've been hit and we've been struggling — that we've been hit and we've been struggling with a very heavy pension deficit _ struggling with a very heavy pension deficit. but beyond that pension deficit _ deficit. but beyond that pension deficit i— deficit. but beyond that pension deficit i think the level of innovation that this business has been _ innovation that this business has been showing. the .net two years ago we started _ been showing. the .net two years ago we started working very closely with pure gold _ we started working very closely with pure gold and actually on one hand there's— pure gold and actually on one hand there's always a pressure of pension deficit— there's always a pressure of pension deficit suddenly would happen we started _ deficit suddenly would happen we started working with google, we had some _ started working with google, we had some money in the bank to invest and be given— some money in the bank to invest and be given the _ some money in the bank to invest and be given the space to innovate. as a result— be given the space to innovate. as a result of— be given the space to innovate. as a result of the — be given the space to innovate. as a result of the project, we built the most _ result of the project, we built the most advanced voice infrastructure in terms _ most advanced voice infrastructure in terms of— most advanced voice infrastructure in terms of uk media. and were excited — in terms of uk media. and were excited to— in terms of uk media. and were excited to be launching that over the next — excited to be launching that over the next 18 months. so to say hard times _ the next 18 months. so to say hard times. actually we had drill covid, everybody— times. actually we had drill covid, everybody said their story to tell it has _ everybody said their story to tell it has been horrendous for everyone in the _ it has been horrendous for everyone in the businesses we look after. but actually, _ in the businesses we look after. but actually, no, — in the businesses we look after. but actually, no, outside of the

industry— actually, no, outside of the industry people look in and think wow, _ industry people look in and think wow, it's — industry people look in and think wow, it's off inside the industry. we are _ wow, it's off inside the industry. we are incredibly limited. we work with a _ we are incredibly limited. we work with a huge amount of talent every day. with a huge amount of talent every da . . , , day. challenging but extremely excitina. day. challenging but extremely exciting. but _ day. challenging but extremely exciting. but some _ day. challenging but extremely exciting. but some jobs - day. challenging but extremely exciting. but some jobs did - day. challenging but extremely exciting. but some jobs did go | exciting. but some “obs did go didn't exciting. but some “obs did go dun-t pay? h exciting. but some jobs did go didn't pay? absolutely. - exciting. but some jobs did go didn't pay? absolutely. we - exciting. but some jobs did go i didn't pay? absolutely. we reach staffed _ didn't pay? absolutely. we reach staffed business inevitably. impose covid _ staffed business inevitably. impose covid we've reshot business. 0ne staffed business inevitably. impose covid we've reshot business. one of the things— covid we've reshot business. one of the things was keeping journalist and that's what we done. and the older, and that's what we done. and the older. more _ and that's what we done. and the older, more established - and that's what we done. and the l older, more established newspaper titles and you have many and you're stable, how much do they still matter when people are finding so many other sources of news? especially younger people. that's a great _ especially younger people. that's a great question. if i spoke to my knees _ great question. if i spoke to my knees who— great question. if i spoke to my knees who is 18 she would tell me that news— knees who is 18 she would tell me that news didn't matter to her at all. that news didn't matter to her at all if— that news didn't matter to her at all if i _ that news didn't matter to her at all. if i spoke to my parents or if i all. if i spoke to my parents or if i speak— all. if i spoke to my parents or if i speak to — all. if i spoke to my parents or if i speak to my colleagues are people my age _ i speak to my colleagues are people my age they will tell me it's absolutely critical. so to various parts _ absolutely critical. so to various parts of — absolutely critical. so to various parts of our community the newspaper and our—

parts of our community the newspaper and our brands are absolutely critical — and our brands are absolutely critical. remember, we still have areas _ critical. remember, we still have areas that— critical. remember, we still have areas that have terribly challenged broadband service. the only way in which _ broadband service. the only way in which over— broadband service. the only way in which over it — broadband service. the only way in which over it in particular the people — which over it in particular the people felt connected was through the printed newspaper. it's incredibly important to our community is in readily important to our businesses and we are committed to keep _ our businesses and we are committed to keep delivering that service. next, — to keep delivering that service. next, you _ to keep delivering that service. next, you mentioned your city websites. it is up three flavour of those yes, we launched four recently. those yes, we launched four recently-— those yes, we launched four recentl . . , ., recently. manchester, liverpool old world and liveable _ recently. manchester, liverpool old world and liveable world. _ recently. manchester, liverpool old world and liveable world. and - world and liveable world. and tomorrow _ world and liveable world. and tomorrow we've _ world and liveable world. and tomorrow we've got - world and liveable world. and tomorrow we've got london l world and liveable world. and - tomorrow we've got london world on live. tomorrow we've got london world on live although — tomorrow we've got london world on live. although we've _ tomorrow we've got london world on live. although we've been _ live. although we've been discussing... _ live. although we've been discussing. . .— live. although we've been discussing... live. although we've been discussina... ., ., ., ., discussing... you're allowed to do laundry work. _ discussing... you're allowed to do laundry work, are _ discussing... you're allowed to do laundry work, are you? _ discussing... you're allowed to do laundry work, are you? were - discussing... you're allowed to do i laundry work, are you? were moving into the territory. _ laundry work, are you? were moving into the territory. -- _ laundry work, are you? were moving into the territory. -- london. - into the territory. —— london. that's— into the territory. —— london. that's tomorrow— into the territory. —— london. that's tomorrow by— into the territory. —— london. . that's tomorrow by birmingham into the territory. —— london. - that's tomorrow by birmingham and further— that's tomorrow by birmingham and further down — that's tomorrow by birmingham and further down the _ that's tomorrow by birmingham and further down the line. _ that's tomorrow by birmingham and further down the line. it's _ that's tomorrow by birmingham and further down the line. it's been - further down the line. it's been busy— further down the line. it's been busy time — further down the line. it's been busy time for _ further down the line. it's been busy time for us. _ further down the line. it's been busy time for us.— further down the line. it's been busy time for us. and the financing of those, busy time for us. and the financing of those. how _ busy time for us. and the financing of those, how does _ busy time for us. and the financing of those, how does that _ busy time for us. and the financing of those, how does that work - busy time for us. and the financing of those, how does that work was l busy time for us. and the financing i of those, how does that work was met we've created new roles. taste of those, how does that work was met we've created new roles.— we've created new roles. we created 45 new roles- _ we've created new roles. we created 45 new roles. the _ we've created new roles. we created 45 new roles. the commercial- we've created new roles. we created 45 new roles. the commercial side i we've created new roles. we created j 45 new roles. the commercial side is obviously— 45 new roles. the commercial side is obviously something _ 45 new roles. the commercial side is obviously something we _ 45 new roles. the commercial side is obviously something we are - obviously something we are

developing _ obviously something we are developing just _ obviously something we are developing just now. - obviously something we are developing just now. i- obviously something we are developing just now. i thinkj obviously something we are i developing just now. i think the longer-term _ developing just now. i think the longer—term strategy— developing just now. i think the longer—term strategy around i developing just now. i think the i longer—term strategy around that is really _ longer—term strategy around that is really trying — longer—term strategy around that is really trying to _ longer—term strategy around that is really trying to look _ longer—term strategy around that is really trying to look at _ longer—term strategy around that is really trying to look at strategic i really trying to look at strategic partnerships _ really trying to look at strategic partnerships in _ really trying to look at strategic partnerships in our— really trying to look at strategic partnerships in our cities. i really trying to look at strategicl partnerships in our cities. really trying _ partnerships in our cities. really trying to— partnerships in our cities. really trying to make _ partnerships in our cities. really trying to make some _ partnerships in our cities. reallyl trying to make some connections partnerships in our cities. really- trying to make some connections with partners. _ trying to make some connections with partners, blue—chip— trying to make some connections with partners, blue—chip partners- trying to make some connections with partners, blue—chip partners within i partners, blue—chip partners within those _ partners, blue—chip partners within those cities — partners, blue—chip partners within those cities. and _ partners, blue—chip partners within those cities. and move _ partners, blue—chip partners within those cities. and move away- partners, blue—chip partners within. those cities. and move away slightly from the _ those cities. and move away slightly from the problematic— those cities. and move away slightly from the problematic advertising i from the problematic advertising market— from the problematic advertising market and — from the problematic advertising market and be _ from the problematic advertising market and be more _ from the problematic advertising market and be more aligned i from the problematic advertising market and be more aligned on. from the problematic advertising i market and be more aligned on things like video. _ market and be more aligned on things like video, really— market and be more aligned on things like video, really high— market and be more aligned on things like video, really high quality- like video, really high quality content _ like video, really high quality content. the _ like video, really high quality content. the more _ like video, really high quality content. the more relevant. like video, really high quality content. the more relevant i| like video, really high quality- content. the more relevant i would say commercial _ content. the more relevant i would say commercial. so _ content. the more relevant i would say commercial.— content. the more relevant i would say commercial. so you're constantly havin: to say commercial. so you're constantly having to innovate _ say commercial. so you're constantly having to innovate and _ say commercial. so you're constantly having to innovate and rethink - say commercial. so you're constantly having to innovate and rethink when | having to innovate and rethink when it comes to where the monies, from. innovation is really vibrant within regional— innovation is really vibrant within regional media. _ innovation is really vibrant within regional media. i— innovation is really vibrant within regional media. i think— innovation is really vibrant within regional media. i think would i innovation is really vibrant within regional media. i think would be | regional media. i think would be wrong _ regional media. i think would be wrong to— regional media. i think would be wrong to assume _ regional media. i think would be wrong to assume that _ regional media. i think would be wrong to assume that it's - regional media. i think would be wrong to assume that it's any. regional media. i think would be i wrong to assume that it's any less so than _ wrong to assume that it's any less so than at — wrong to assume that it's any less so than at the _ wrong to assume that it's any less so than at the nationals. - wrong to assume that it's any less so than at the nationals. and i wrong to assume that it's any less so than at the nationals. and we i wrong to assume that it's any less . so than at the nationals. and we are constantly— so than at the nationals. and we are constantly trying _ so than at the nationals. and we are constantly trying to _ so than at the nationals. and we are constantly trying to innovate - constantly trying to innovate whether— constantly trying to innovate whether it's _ constantly trying to innovate whether it's podcast, - constantly trying to innovate whether it's podcast, video,| constantly trying to innovate i whether it's podcast, video, all of those _ whether it's podcast, video, all of those things — whether it's podcast, video, all of those things come _ whether it's podcast, video, all of those things come storytelling, . those things come storytelling, interactive _ those things come storytelling, interactive content. _ those things come storytelling, interactive content. it's- those things come storytelling, interactive content.—

interactive content. it's a full ranue interactive content. it's a full range for— interactive content. it's a full range for us- _ interactive content. it's a full range for us. ifan _ interactive content. it's a full range for us. ifan for - interactive content. it's a full range for us. ifan for you, i interactive content. it's a full. range for us. ifan for you, how interactive content. it's a full- range for us. ifan for you, how does that work? we range for us. ifan for you, how does that work?— that work? we were setting up the media business _ that work? we were setting up the media business from _ that work? we were setting up the media business from scratch - that work? we were setting up the media business from scratch was i that work? we were setting up the | media business from scratch was to set up _ media business from scratch was to set up a _ media business from scratch was to set up a not—for—profit campaign. so that's— set up a not—for—profit campaign. so that's any— set up a not—for—profit campaign. so that's any of— set up a not—for—profit campaign. so that's any of it we did make went straight — that's any of it we did make went straight back into the company itself — straight back into the company itself. we are actually subscriber driven _ itself. we are actually subscriber driven service. so we get 20,000 a year from _ driven service. so we get 20,000 a year from the welsh council which is been _ year from the welsh council which is been a _ year from the welsh council which is been a great help. but the bulk of our funding actually comes from people _ our funding actually comes from people who want to see our business succeed _ people who want to see our business succeed. and believe that wales needs— succeed. and believe that wales needs eight national news network and so _ needs eight national news network and so far— needs eight national news network and so far we've got over 1000 subscribers every month supporting us at the _ subscribers every month supporting us at the moment.— us at the moment. right. so if you kee a us at the moment. right. so if you keep a good _ us at the moment. right. so if you keep a good and — us at the moment. right. so if you keep a good and keep _ us at the moment. right. so if you keep a good and keep it _ us at the moment. right. so if you keep a good and keep it relevant i us at the moment. right. so if you | keep a good and keep it relevant in their eyes your hope is that they will continue to put their hands in their pockets? if will continue to put their hands in their pockets?— their pockets? if you get 50,000 eo - le their pockets? if you get 50,000 people that's _ their pockets? if you get 50,000 people that's giving _ their pockets? if you get 50,000 people that's giving you - their pockets? if you get 50,000 people that's giving you £2 - their pockets? if you get 50,000 people that's giving you £2 a i their pockets? if you get 50,000 i people that's giving you £2 a month suddenly— people that's giving you £2 a month suddenly you've got enough to employ a whole _ suddenly you've got enough to employ a whole stable ofjournalist. i think— a whole stable ofjournalist. i think it's _ a whole stable ofjournalist. i think it's been an unmet need in

wales— think it's been an unmet need in wales for— think it's been an unmet need in wales for eight national news service — wales for eight national news service. and will fill clear that no one has— service. and will fill clear that no one has filled that gap in the pack. now we've — one has filled that gap in the pack. now we've seen that gap in the market— now we've seen that gap in the market and people are ready to support — market and people are ready to support us. market and people are ready to support us— market and people are ready to support us-_ market and people are ready to support us. shazi ali, take us to our support us. shazi ali, take us to your project _ support us. shazi ali, take us to your project and _ support us. shazi ali, take us to your project and the _ support us. shazi ali, take us to your project and the driving i support us. shazi ali, take us to| your project and the driving force behind her. i hinted at this a moment ago, the way you consumed media when you were growing up was at a source of frustration sometimes because you didn't think you were able to access some of the stories that you felt you should be able to read? , , g , that you felt you should be able to read? , , . , ., read? definitely. just to conceptualize _ read? definitely. just to conceptualize it. - read? definitely. just to conceptualize it. the i read? definitely. just to i conceptualize it. the people's newsroom does have a particular focus to serve people that were marginalised outside the media. and i got some experience in that photo of course i'm welsh but i also have south asian background, muslim background and growing up i did feel that where i existed and were unrepresented. sometimes the distortion and i know and i understand. yeah i did feel that was damaging for myself and damaging for my community. even now if you like that damage is very obvious and still continuing. and that's why i studied journalism and why i became

—— swansea. ifocus on studied journalism and why i became —— swansea. i focus on the stories and a lot of the feedback we had was that we wouldn't often see the stories on tv that we wouldn't see stories on tv that we wouldn't see stories that we felt were important for us. that made us feel heard, they gave us a sense of validation. how will the people's newsroom as a concept continue the work you just describe? i concept continue the work you 'ust describe? ., �* , concept continue the work you 'ust describe? ~' �* , ., , ., describe? i think, it's ultimately a resonse describe? i think, it's ultimately a response to _ describe? i think, it's ultimately a response to what _ describe? i think, it's ultimately a response to what our _ describe? i think, it's ultimately a response to what our community. describe? i think, it's ultimately a i response to what our community said they want, media ownership, they want to tell their own stories, they want to tell their own stories, they want to tell their own stories, they want to control the narrative in a way that tells our stories authentically and respected and a way that we feel valued. and it's a direct response to all of the spirit that we talk about we feel. and what stage are you at at the moment? we are in the project design phase at the moment. we are finding out how our audience consume news, where they want to consume news. an attic

it's all about market research and that deep needs mapping, that so important. that's how we draw sustainability. find important. that's how we draw sustainability.— important. that's how we draw sustainability. important. that's how we draw sustainabili . �* ., , ., sustainability. and where does it go well there you _ sustainability. and where does it go well there you are _ sustainability. and where does it go well there you are in _ sustainability. and where does it go well there you are in swansea i sustainability. and where does it go well there you are in swansea and i well there you are in swansea and you described the project to us. where else could go if it works? this is a pilot project here in swansea with east wales. and we know that the barrel planning to scale this work and replicate that across the uk and support people to create their own local newsrooms next year. again, we will rely on funding from those who read it, consume it, believe in a?— those who read it, consume it, believe in a? . , , ,, ., ., believe in a? perhaps. i know that our research _ believe in a? perhaps. i know that our research now— believe in a? perhaps. i know that our research now we _ believe in a? perhaps. i know that our research now we are - believe in a? perhaps. i know that our research now we are just i our research now we are just trying to explore how that will work just respond to people's needs. i know that our business model will be a direct response to our audiences needs. . ., ., ., . ,, ., needs. ifan, i wanted to go back to ou with needs. ifan, i wanted to go back to you with your— needs. ifan, i wanted to go back to you with your academic _ needs. ifan, i wanted to go back to you with your academic hat - needs. ifan, i wanted to go back to you with your academic hat on i needs. ifan, i wanted to go back to you with your academic hat on for. needs. ifan, i wanted to go back to| you with your academic hat on for a moment. we talk so far about london and regionaljournalism and how it's developing in so many different

ways. how well placed does it then look to you to hold power to account? because that is clearly a key element of journalism account? because that is clearly a key element ofjournalism where ever it is in the country should be doing. i it is in the country should be doinu. ., it is in the country should be doinu. ,, ., ., ., doing. i think that one of the important — doing. i think that one of the important things _ doing. i think that one of the important things we - doing. i think that one of the important things we can i doing. i think that one of the important things we can do i important things we can do is decentralise _ important things we can do is decentralise at— important things we can do is decentralise at journalism. i important things we can do is - decentralise atjournalism. we've decentralise at journalism. we've heard _ decentralise at journalism. we've heard leveling _ decentralise atjournalism. we've heard leveling up— decentralise atjournalism. we've heard leveling up already - decentralise atjournalism. we've heard leveling up already being . heard leveling up already being mentioned _ heard leveling up already being mentioned. we _ heard leveling up already being mentioned. we need _ heard leveling up already being mentioned. we need to- heard leveling up already being mentioned. we need to level. heard leveling up already beingl mentioned. we need to level up heard leveling up already being - mentioned. we need to level up the journalism _ mentioned. we need to level up the journalism in — mentioned. we need to level up the journalism in different _ mentioned. we need to level up the journalism in different parts- mentioned. we need to level up the journalism in different parts of- journalism in different parts of the uk as_ journalism in different parts of the uk as well— journalism in different parts of the uk as well is— journalism in different parts of the uk as well is tell _ journalism in different parts of the uk as well is tell the _ journalism in different parts of the uk as well is tell the stories - journalism in different parts of the uk as well is tell the stories and l uk as well is tell the stories and represents— uk as well is tell the stories and represents the _ uk as well is tell the stories and represents the needs _ uk as well is tell the stories and represents the needs of - uk as well is tell the stories and represents the needs of peoplel uk as well is tell the stories and. represents the needs of people in different— represents the needs of people in different parts— represents the needs of people in different parts of— represents the needs of people in different parts of the _ represents the needs of people in different parts of the uk. - represents the needs of people in different parts of the uk. i- represents the needs of people in different parts of the uk. i think. different parts of the uk. i think that is— different parts of the uk. i think that is what— different parts of the uk. i think that is what it _ different parts of the uk. i think that is what it does _ different parts of the uk. i think that is what it does and - different parts of the uk. i think that is what it does and what . different parts of the uk. i think. that is what it does and what some of the _ that is what it does and what some of the other— that is what it does and what some of the other services _ that is what it does and what some of the other services discussed - that is what it does and what somel of the other services discussed here today— of the other services discussed here today does— of the other services discussed here today does as — of the other services discussed here today does as well. _ of the other services discussed here today does as well. hick— of the other services discussed here today does as well.— today does as well. nick mitchell, ou were today does as well. nick mitchell, you were nodding _ today does as well. nick mitchell, you were nodding at _ today does as well. nick mitchell, you were nodding at that. - today does as well. nick mitchell, you were nodding at that. the - you were nodding at that. the regional element of holding power to account, obviously an important factor for you too.— account, obviously an important factor for you too. yes, i think he makes a very _ factor for you too. yes, i think he makes a very good _ factor for you too. yes, i think he makes a very good point - factor for you too. yes, i think he makes a very good point about i makes a very good point about leveling up the medias industry as well is wider society. i think that something that's kind of slightly about the media there's a sense that

you have to go to london to make it. and hopefully projects like this, like natural world and the other projects discussed today showed that we are opening up opportunities across the country for more background and notjust people looking forward to spend some time in london to get internships really trying to open it up across the uk. opening up as well forjob opportunities wherever you are in the uk. �* , opportunities wherever you are in theuk. y y opportunities wherever you are in theuk. r q , the uk. absolutely. you've probably seen that recently _ the uk. absolutely. you've probably seen that recently across _ the uk. absolutely. you've probably seen that recently across the - seen that recently across the regional— seen that recently across the regional industry. somebody vacanciesjust now and regional industry. somebody vacancies just now and a regional industry. somebody vacanciesjust now and a lot regional industry. somebody vacancies just now and a lot of movement. i think it's really healthy. _ movement. i think it's really healthy, it's a healthy reflection of the _ healthy, it's a healthy reflection of the fact that companies are building — of the fact that companies are building a lot bolder now. as publishers and as we move out of the pandemic— publishers and as we move out of the pandemic and it does create new opportunities. i think one of the things— opportunities. i think one of the things that we've launched this week is a new— things that we've launched this week is a new apprentice program. it's early— is a new apprentice program. it's early days— is a new apprentice program. it's early days but we are really looking forward _ early days but we are really looking forward to — early days but we are really looking forward to bringing in new people to full industry training for the

people _ full industry training for the people from backgrounds that again may not _ people from backgrounds that again may not be as well represented as in the past _ may not be as well represented as in the past was up i think there's a lot more — the past was up i think there's a lot more opportunities and it's not perfect _ lot more opportunities and it's not perfect but — lot more opportunities and it's not perfect but were getting there. lorna. — perfect but were getting there. lorna, you mentioned your relationship with google a little bit earlier on. to some social media might be seen as a potential rival, a problem for some of the work that you are doing. but you don't see it that way. you are doing. but you don't see it that wa . ., , , ., that way. no, the first thing is to differentiate. _ that way. no, the first thing is to differentiate. when _ that way. no, the first thing is to differentiate. when we _ that way. no, the first thing is to differentiate. when we talk - that way. no, the first thing is to | differentiate. when we talk about search engines and social media platforms. we talk about google i think lots of people talk about the argument, google and facebook is kinda eating our lunch in terms of advertising. that argument is a decade old now. i think is an industry we need to pick ourselves up industry we need to pick ourselves up and get past that. the reason we are around google as they came to the table before this got noisy. and they came to us and facebook,

instagram, snapchat, they don't engage with us on regional level. google it come to our business, they got to know our business at a micro level. and i asked to enact they asked how they can help. they didn't come in and say you're doing it wrong. and i suspect nick may sympathise with this, there is a little bit of arrogance that comes from outside this industry looks in and says well, they're just not good at doing a good job. and actually were doing a blood he excellentjob. what google did was give us the space debris. they said ok you got an amazing talent in this business, your ego, orsome an amazing talent in this business, your ego, or some cash, an amazing talent in this business, your ego, orsome cash, go an amazing talent in this business, your ego, or some cash, go innovate. and go get sustainable. does that provide you with a sustainable financial platform to build on? it will do. so were going through the experiment but yes that's the absolute plan. it will be in terms of reader sites along with other initiatives around working with our businesses. initiatives around working with our businesses— businesses. okay. time is up but thank ou businesses. okay. time is up but thank you all— businesses. okay. time is up but thank you all very _ businesses. okay. time is up but thank you all very much - businesses. okay. time is up but thank you all very much indeed i businesses. okay. time is up but. thank you all very much indeed for taking part. thank you to all of my

guest. nick mitchell, editor of national world .com. guest. nick mitchell, editor of nationalworld .com. ifan guest. nick mitchell, editor of national world .com. ifan morgan jones, warner willis ceo of archant and shazi ali leader of the people's newsroom initiative in swansea. thank you to all of you. the media show back at the same time next week. thank you very much for watching. goodbye. hello. gradual changes under way with our weather this weekend as it turns warmer and a bit brighter in england and wales by sunday. same time by then, scotland and northern ireland with a chance of rain. until sunday, it's pretty much as you were, and that means plenty of cloud, as there will be as we get into tonight, and some drizzly rain possible from the thickest cloud. low cloud sitting on the hills giving foggy conditions and some

patches of fog possible where we have clear spells, too, towards wales and south west england. temperatures for the most part holding up into double figures. and then into tomorrow, well, the best of any sunny spells will be in wales, southern england, especially south west england. a few in northern and northern scotland. plenty of cloud again elsewhere, the chance of some drizzly rain. the flow of air coming in from the north sea towards the coast of eastern scotland and north east england. here, we'll keep temperatures into around about the mid—teens, whereas elsewhere, it's upper teens close to 20 and temperatures a little bit higher where you do get to see some sunshine. that's it for now. bye— bye.

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