tv Outside Source BBC News September 8, 2021 7:00pm-8:01pm BST
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hello, i'm maryam moshiri, this is outside source. a major trial has started in france over the 2015 paris attacks. the only surviving attacker, salah abdeslam, is being tried for murder and terrorist conspiracy — along with 19 others accused of involvement. we'll be live in paris for analysis of the day's events. also in the programme: british mps are about to vote on the government's controversial plan to raise national insurance to fund the nhs and social care. this breaks a tory manifesto commitment not to increase taxes and critics say it will target working people unfairly. this is the scene live
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in the house of commons. one of the largest confederate statues of the united states has been removed after a lengthy court battle. i'll be speaking to a rapid clip mac relative of a man it represented. and britain's raducanu has opened the us semi finals was a 63-6 has opened the us semi finals was a 63—6 for victory. france's biggest terrorism trial has begun over the 2015 paris attacks that left 130 people dead. 20 men are on trial, including the only surviving suspected attacker, salah abdeslam. he arrived to court in paris in this convoy, under heavy security. here's the frenchjustice minister on the significance.
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translation:. this trial is first and foremost of interest to the victims, but the whole of our fellow citizens, all of france, will be watching this trial. the whole world will be watching this trial. it is also an opportunity for ourjustice system to reaffirm that it functions with a certain number of unalterable rules, which separate civilisation from barbarism. and it is important to me to say this again here. the shooting and bombing assault by islamist state group extremists was the worst post— world war 2 atrocity in france. this is how it unfolded. it began at 9.35 pm local — when 3 jihadists detonated their explosive belts outside the stade de france, during a packed football match between germany and france — killing a coach driver. as that was happening — another attack was underway just 7 kilometres away in the 10th and 11th districts of paris. a second group ofjihadists opened fire at people having drinks
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and dinner outside bars and restaurants — killing 39 people. 15 minutes later, at 9.49 pm — a third group stormed the bataclan theatre, where a rock concert was being held. 90 died in the assault. paris correspondent lucy williamson has been speaking to survivors. it has been speaking to survivors. was a night with m when it was a night with no safe haven, when no one knew where to run. when gunmen brought chaos to paris is bars and restaurants. it's football stadium... the paddock concert hall... stephan lost his son hugo that night at the bataclan. no trial he says can heal the pain. it that night at the bataclan. no trial he says can healthe pain.- he says can healthe pain. it was something _ he says can healthe pain. it was something completely _ he says can heal the pain. it was. something completely devastated because it's for several two first all a personal loss, the loss of a child, my son. it's also a
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collective loss. and then it was difficult to manage the situation. the trauma of that night has continued to ripple through france. six years on, what will it mean to see salah abdeslam standing in the dark. ., ~' ., see salah abdeslam standing in the dark. ., ~ ., , ., dark. you know you 'ust imagine somebodyfi dark. you know you 'ust imagine somebody with _ dark. you know you 'ust imagine somebody with a _ dark. you know you just imagine somebody with a strong - somebody with a strong intellectual... maybe i'm wrong. pecple. — intellectual... maybe i'm wrong. people, this kind of men who have done _ people, this kind of men who have done such— people, this kind of men who have done such awful things.— people, this kind of men who have done such awful things. stephan says he doesn't need _ done such awful things. stephan says he doesn't need to _ done such awful things. stephan says he doesn't need to see _ done such awful things. stephan says he doesn't need to see the _ done such awful things. stephan says he doesn't need to see the key - he doesn't need to see the key defended but he wants salah abdeslam to see him. �* , , ., , defended but he wants salah abdeslam toseehim. , , �*, to see him. after six years, it's very important _ to see him. after six years, it's very important to _ to see him. after six years, it's very important to me _ to see him. after six years, it's very important to me to - to see him. after six years, it's very important to me to face i to see him. after six years, it's i very important to me to face him to see him. after six years, it's - very important to me to face him and say ok, look at me, i'm there, i'm alive. my son is not there but through me he is still here. we are still standing, you didn't win. the trial is being held
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at the historic courts ofjustice in paris. this chamber has been built exclusively for it — it seats hundreds. there are 10 cameras in the court room — the recordings won't be live, they'll be kept for french archives only. hundreds of survivors will be attending. over the next nine months, five judges will preside over 140 days of hearings — involving 330 lawyers and 1,800 plaintiffs. 300 witnesses will be heard — here's one of the victim's lawyers. translation:. it is a sign of hope above all. it means subjecting the terrorists, the horror, the barbarism, the savage strike to our rules of democratic justice. so this is hope and they expect a lot from it." lets look at who is being tried. there are 20 suspects, six are being tried in absentia, however, they're presumed dead. all are facing charges of murder, complicity and terrorist conspiracy and could be sentenced to life injail, if convicted. the only suspected attacker
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to survive that night was salah abdeslam, the 31 year old fled the scene after abandoning his suicide belt which investigators later found was defective. he was captured four months later in brussels after a shoot—out with police. well today he told the court he's a fighter for the islamic state group. before the hearing, his lawyer spoke. translation:. our client, what is going to say is that today he's taken a step back from all that, that he wants something else for that he wants something else for that but he also has a vision of islam that has a goal so that these are elements that will be taken into consideration. well it's up to the courts to decide that. the defendants were brought in and at the 1st moment some drama indicative when they were all asked to read out their names are identified themselves and identify themselves, them salah abdeslam, the survivor when asked to give his
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profession said "i am a soldier of the atlantic state. "for some indicating it seems his will to prove his credentials perhaps for a warrior for the cause. certainly showing a challenging spirit towards the rest of the court. he was later brought to book by the presiding judge run again salah abdeslam got up judge run again salah abdeslam got up and started complaining about the treatment to him and others saying it wasn't worthy of a dog, sadie didn't matter to him because he would go to heaven and there will be a reckoning for the rest of the court. in the presiding judge said mr salah abdeslam you are in a court of law not in a tribunal. setting the flavour and its own what might be a confrontation or spirit of confrontation from the accused salah abdeslam, the key figures setting himself up as a bit of a spokesman for the group. anne—elisabeth moutet is a journalist in paris. this isn't just about working
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this isn'tjust about working out whether accused or edison. it's also about documenting how these events happened and why. about documenting how these events happened and why-— about documenting how these events happened and why. indeed our 'ustice for the charlie — happened and why. indeed our 'ustice for the charlie hebdo * happened and why. indeed our 'ustice for the charlie hebdo trial h happened and why. indeed our 'ustice for the charlie hebdo trial last _ for the charlie hebdo trial last year, those are the trials, the trial is film but something that doesn't happen in france ever. but thatis doesn't happen in france ever. but that is for the record and for history. first of all is the biggest child that we'd known in france. we had to build a special room that has a capacity of 550 attendance in the audience which did not exist in france. because they want the possibility of his many people to cover it is possible and to see that justice has been carried out properly. in accordance to french law when it comes to a terrorism trial it isjudged law when it comes to a terrorism trial it is judged by five professional french judges and not by a jury. in the idea is first of all to try and find out what
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happened, how they were radicalised, what networks they have those might be revived today, especially in the view of afghanistan. also to the hundreds of victims and families of victims to give closure. so that is a huge thing. thejudgment is expected in may of next year. it's going to last over nine months. aha, going to last over nine months. a very long trial coming up over the next nine months. how did the events of 2015 change the way france and french people perceived terrorism or the terrorism threats? it was an awful advent and had a cataclysmic event two on the french psyche. i would say it was a bit of our 9/11 in paris. but it came also the same yearin in paris. but it came also the same year in the autumn at the time that it started with the killing at charlie had to do. the killing at charlie had to do. the killing at
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charlie have do absolutely shattered everyone. also because all charlie had to do. all the ones that are worked for newspapers for 50 years. we were familiar with the cartoons. and so it was as if they killed someone familiar. it was also this brutality that if you express something that i do know like i can kill you. but i will say one thing which is france has don't terrorism for several decades. after you had the independence war in the 60s, but then in the 70s you have palestinian terrorism and then you had iranian terrorism. then you had, france was the land of the bloodiest civil war in between i did 92 and 2000. they blew up stations in paris, they blow up blew up stations in paris, they blow up trains, you had those things happen. it is not the first time he had police and ambulances. we had earlier instances of terrorism and france in the north and the previous
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decade. unfortunately is not something that is unknown to us, that's a one difference with 111, i should say. that's a one difference with 111, i should say-— very much indeed. a big story here in the uk — mps have just voted to approve the government's controversial plan to raise taxes to fund the nhs and social care. on tuesday, borisjohnson announced his plan to raise £36 billion over three years — that's about 50 billion us dollars — to deal with a backlog caused by the pandemic. and during a debate in the house of commons over the last few hours, he urged mps to back the reforms. this plan for health and social care does, is deal after decades with a catastrophic cost faced by millions of people, the risk that they face up and down the country, they could face the loss of their home, the positions,
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their ability to pass on anything to their children! the plan is ambitious but controversial. critics point to issues of intergenerational unfairness and there are many who see the tax hike as a betrayal of election promises. we'll go through those in turn. but first let's remind ourselves of the plan. most of the money for social care will come from 2023 onwards. there will be state support so that anyone with assets less than £20,000 will have their costs fully covered by the state. and there will be a cap so that no—one will have to pay more than £86,000 for care in their lifetime. it will be funded by a rise of one and a quarter percentage points on a tax that's paid by both companies and employees — national insurance. let's start with the issue of fairness. there are people who think that asking those in work to meet costs largely borne by the elderly, is intrinsically unfair. here's the leader of
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the opposition labour party. his plan is to impose unfair taxes for working people. my plan is to ensure that those with their broader shoulders pay theirfairshare. i know they don't like that of the truth is, his plans don't do what it claims with the people will still face huge bills, many homeowners will need to sell their home. the prime minister defended his plans. he said that higher earners will pay a substantial part of the levy. and he also took aim at the labour party. mr speaker, i think the whole house, indeed the whole country can appreciate that we at least have a plan. to fix the backlogs. but there are concerns that young people will bear a disproportionate this is an article from the evening standard newspaper on tuesday. it said that there is a "huge generational split over the government's tax hike plans. goes on to quote a snap yougov poll which found that 44% however, just 26% of 18 to 2a—year—olds
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back the rise. and 47% of that age group are against it. there are also concerns that the increase will have a higher impact on the lower—paid. as your income rises above a certain threshold, national insurance becomes a smaller and smaller proportion of your overall wage packet. here's the labour party's shadow chancellor. what does this mean for ordinary people funding it? the chancellor's tax on jobs doesn't just let down those working in care or needing care. it's a tax on all those in work. and as daily covid cases continue to climb. the only shielding this gov is interested in is protecting the wealthiest few from paying more. a private landlord owning and renting out multiple properties won't pay a penny more, but the hard—working tenants working for a living will be hit hard. it is deeply unfair.
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in spite of these criticisms, there are many people already facing huge costs. the charity age uk says that currently, people paying privately for their care are significantly subsidising the system. they're paying fees which are a1% higher on average than those whose fees are paid by the government. here's one man with a 93—year old mother in need of care. who under the current system is facing huge cost. 50 who under the current system is facing huge cost.— facing huge cost. so she has basically left _ facing huge cost. so she has basically left 166,000 - facing huge cost. so she has basically left 166,000 to - facing huge cost. so she has| basically left 166,000 to pay facing huge cost. so she has - basically left 166,000 to pay for the remaining of her care. for my reckoning that will last for just overfour reckoning that will last for just over four years. reckoning that will last for just overfour years. and reckoning that will last for just over four years. and after that she will be quite literally pettiness. my will be quite literally pettiness. my mother worked for the nhs for many years, my father worked for the post office for many years and they bought their house when things were... not many people bought houses. so they saved and worked and
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now all their assets are likely to go. there are other concerns about the unfairness of the new rules. one of the major changes is that from 2023, nobody will pay more than £86,000 over their lifetime for social care. but this cap doesn't apply to accommodation costs in residential homes. this means people will have to use their own money to pay so could still end up having to sell their home to cover their daily living costs. there are also concerns that the social care sector could end up receiving less money than promised. this is a tweet from the director of the institute of fiscal studies. he says that. let's now move on to the other major criticism of government. their apparent willingness to rip up manifesto pledges. here's the prime minister
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speaking in 2019. we get all these things. we could do all these things without raising our income tax, vat or national insurance contribution. that's a guarantee. then he showed them manifesto _ that's a guarantee. then he showed them manifesto to _ that's a guarantee. then he showed them manifesto to the _ that's a guarantee. then he showed them manifesto to the audience. . the breaking of election pledges is something opposition parties have seized on. here's the leader of the liberal democrat party. lam also i am also concerned that this is a massive — i am also concerned that this is a massive breach in the conservative election— massive breach in the conservative election promises. in the 2019 election— election promises. in the 2019 election manifesto from conservatives based stated quite categorically they would not raise national — categorically they would not raise national insurance was up here they are breaking that election promise and they— are breaking that election promise and they need to be held to account. the government has, as you might expect, defended its position. johnson won the 2019 election on the promise not to raise income tax, national insurance or vat. he's gambling that the public will forgive his u—turn. this is an article from
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the politico website. it says that. i was told of things carried on that we would be waiting on a waiting list of 30 million and a light i i can say we've made a promise to in the manifesto and would own a break in less we stick to it and let that waiting list go to 30 million. or we could confront the problem, be honest with the british people, take the difficult decision... there are however many people in the prime minister's own party who fear that the plan could have longer—term consequences for the party's reputation. the conservative party has traditionally been seen as the low—tax party. but it's now implementing the biggest hike in personal taxes in decades. william hague, former leader of the conservative party, if you create in nhs tax you have an energetics _ if you create in nhs tax you have an energetics tax forever. it will never — energetics tax forever. it will never go _ energetics tax forever. it will never go down, it can only go up. —— nhs _ never go down, it can only go up. —— nhs no— never go down, it can only go up. —— nhs. no party— never go down, it can only go up. —— nhs. no party is a good good idea, both for—
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nhs. no party is a good good idea, both for me, i'll i'll cut the nhs tax _ both for me, i'll i'll cut the nhs tax. ~ . . both for me, i'll i'll cut the nhs tax. . ., ., ., both for me, i'll i'll cut the nhs tax. ~ ., ., ., ., , ., tax. william hague former leaders of the -a tax. william hague former leaders of the party said — tax. william hague former leaders of the party said the _ tax. william hague former leaders of the party said the government - tax. william hague former leaders of the party said the government had i tax. william hague former leaders of the party said the government had to offer a vision of lower taxes in the future. otherwise... this is what's happening live in the house of commons right now. we can see the chambers looking pretty empty now waiting mps to reenter it. our political correspondent peter saull is in westminster. give us an update of what's happening right now.- give us an update of what's happening right now. give us an update of what's hauenina riaht now. , ., ., happening right now. they are voting now on the plan. _ happening right now. they are voting now on the plan, the _ happening right now. they are voting now on the plan, the new _ happening right now. they are voting now on the plan, the new social- now on the plan, the new social care and health levy. this big tax rise that ultimately will help to fund his long—term plan for social care for that but in the short term it's about largely dealing with the backlog in the nhs caused by the covid pandemic. we had the results for the past ten minutes or so of our labour amendment. there was an attempt to force the government to
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publish an impact assessment of the plans on taxpayers and on businesses. and the government won that vote by 335—243 votes. you would imagine the margin of victory would imagine the margin of victory would be fairly similar for the actual plan itself. when we get that in the next few minutes. although they were conservative mps you heard raising their concerns in the debate this afternoon only a small handful we expect to not vote against the government but abstain. boris johnson, has the majority of 80 and house of commons. he ought to be able to wearan house of commons. he ought to be able to wear an doing that when the smoke fairly confidently. it’s smoke fairly confidently. it's re smoke fairly confidently. it's pretty much _ smoke fairly confidently. it's pretty much a _ smoke fairly confidently. it's pretty much a formality. what's the impact going to be of all the criticism that the prime minister has come under?— criticism that the prime minister has come under? , ., has come under? interesting that the prime minister _ has come under? interesting that the prime minister and _ has come under? interesting that the prime minister and pass _ has come under? interesting that the prime minister and pass ourselves i prime minister and pass ourselves been addressing a private meeting of his mps. and the mps coming out of the meeting were saying things like, it was very positive. within that we are told that he said to them, we must remember that we have a party
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of low taxation and free enterprise and the support of the private sector. interesting that he conservative prime minister feels the need to reiterate this after something that one conservative describe in the house of commons today as being desperately unconservative. there is a little bit of hand wringing going on behind the scenes in the tory party about the scenes in the tory party about the necessity of this move. but largely those tory mps are accepting that they don't really have any other option here. they've spent so much money during the pandemic keeping people in work but there is this me to come up with a long—term fund for social care. there's an immediate need to support the nhs and there is no other way around it apart from borrowing more money than putting peoples taxes up a little bit. that is why we expect the vote to go through. but there is still an awful lot that ministers will need to do to convince mps. and the wider public i think in the uk as well about how this plan for social care is actually get work. although they
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covered their way of finding it they haven't really given much detail on how it will actually work. interesting, getting the public on side. the evening standard snapple but you got showing that a0 for percent of adults support this but if you are 18 to 2a—year—olds aborted because of course they will be the ones who potentially will be hardest hit. �* . be the ones who potentially will be hardest hit. . ., ., �* , hardest hit. again that's the argument — hardest hit. again that's the argument that _ hardest hit. again that's the argument that the _ hardest hit. again that's the l argument that the opposition hardest hit. again that's the - argument that the opposition party and some mps have been making that this is in unfair, regressive tax. some labour mps of the dollar for the idea of a wealth tax which would target specifically those who cannot afford it demos. that idea has not fully been embraced yet by the labour front bench but certainly the conservatives feel that this is their best way forward. and boris johnson is going to get his way on it. ultimately i guess the court of public opinion will happen over the next few years as this plan gradually unfolds. as yet people will not see that money coming out out their pay slip. the fact that over the next couple of years it
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will be repackaged as an nhs and social care levy might make that tax rise a little bit less money around about a five or a week for the average in the uk. just a little bit more palatable. the idea that that money is going straight to the health service and the most vulnerable people. it is health service and the most vulnerable people. health service and the most vulnerable --eole. , ' :: vulnerable people. it is 1.240 three mac 1.25 vulnerable people. it is 1.240 three mac 1-25 rise _ vulnerable people. it is 1.240 three mac 1.25 rise on _ vulnerable people. it is 1.240 three mac 1.25 rise on national— vulnerable people. it is 1.240 three| mac 1.25 rise on national insurance. just describe for view is what national insurance is and how it affects people. it’s national insurance is and how it affects people-— national insurance is and how it affects people. it's working people are aid in affects people. it's working people are paid in the _ affects people. it's working people are paid in the uk. _ affects people. it's working people are paid in the uk. that's - affects people. it's working people are paid in the uk. that's right. i are paid in the uk. that's right. actually one of the change that the conservatives are bringing it is part of this are people that are above the state pension age, around 65, 67 depending on when you were born, they at the moment don't pay any national insurance if they're still working. underthis any national insurance if they're still working. under this plan they will start to pay. that's one of the ideas that the conservative government is brought in to try to appease some of the would—be rebels. it is separate from income tax. there are various trade shows and
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different point you start paying income tax in the uk. the national insurance comes in from the very point you start working. it's also employers who contribute to it. how much employers contribute versus employees depends on the individual circumstances. but that's another point made that actually businesses who are going to have to shoulder the burden for some of this too. what do you think the reaction is going to be in the coming days and weeks given the importance of this vote in terms of the tory party backbenchers? they have been particularly vocal, haven't a? i think there were some serious criticisms in the run—up to this. it's been preaching some of the newspapers of the weekend to hike national insurance and a lot of tory mps are coming out of the woodwork including some cabinet ministers and hang on and minute we should be doing this. actually those have turned into slight rumbles in recent days. they've seen the various medications that have been put in place. there's also idea that the
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conservatives are reporting and government in a hike in tax on shared dividends. which we would imagine would impact more on the wealthiest in society. that's another thing they've done to try and get those conservatives on board. some of them today have been saying things like, if you put a cap on the overall cost that someone is going to pay, that actually is potentially unfair on people in the country whose property values might not be be as high. one mps from the northeast of england who said actually, we need to look at that because house prices in my neck of the woods are significantly lower than in london in the southeast was up than in london in the southeast was up i think the more wide concern is, will there be enough money for the social care system in the long run? for salt this is more for the nhs and how exactly will that plan work for social care in the long run? good to talk to. that vote is going on as we speak. i'm sure we will be covering it here on bbc news. that's it for me. stay with us on bbc news,
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outside source. hello there. this is typical british summertime in a way, three fine days and a thunderstorm. we've had the heat far wide again today, just had the hardest ——hottest september day in scotland since 1906, it was around london, heathrow that we saw the highest temperatures with 30 degrees. but in the south—west earlier today we had some thunder and lightning and also some flash flooding in devon. those storms have since moved away but we still have an area of low pressure circulating to the southwest of the uk and there's another band of storm that's developing in france to bring some wetter weather towards more eastern parts of southern england. on top of that, it is still very warm. these are the temperatures at 11 o'clock tonight 20,
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21 degrees in quite a few places and muggy too. and if that wasn't enough, we've got this thunder and lightning and heavy downpours to come across southeast england moving up across east anglia and moving up into north england with more showers coming back into wales and the southwest. so a lot of cloud around overnight and these are the temperatures by the end of the night. as we head into tomorrow, we've still got some heavy, thundery rain to move away from eastern england. moving northwards into scotland and elsewhere we are going to find showers breaking out more widely. these are going to be quite slow moving and they could turn heavy end thundery bringing a risk of some localised flooding. where we are dryer perhaps in the afternoon across more eastern parts of england temperatures still warm for this time of year. it's just not as hot as it has been of late. and temperatures are dropping and we are getting the weather weather essentially because low pressure is moving in. and that's drifting up from the southwest, moving northwards across the uk and it's dropping the temperatures and dropping a lot of rain in places. not everywhere mind you, many places start dry on friday but we are likely to find some more slow—moving downpours developing
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all the way from southern scotland southwards that could bring some flash flooding. and those temperatures are going to be more typically back to 20 or 21 celsius by the end of the week. so the heat is subsiding, a lot of rain in the forecast. as we head into the weekend, low pressure starts to move away and things should start to calm down a little bit as well. on saturday we may still have quite a few showers to come in scotland but generally this weekend there is fewer showers, lighter showers, a lot of cloud and temperatures are going to be near—normal for this time of the year.
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hello, i'm maryam moshiri. this is outside source. are headlines... the major trial has started in france over the 2015 ferris us attacks. the only survivor being tried for murder. —— paris attacks. mps have voted to improve a new tax to help fund health and social care. one of the largest confederate statues in the united states has been removed after a lengthy court battle. i'll be speaking to a relative of the man represented. great britain's emma raducanu has
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reached the us open semifinals. big story here in the uk. and please have voted to improve the government's plan to raise taxes. this means national insurance will increase from april 2022, with a separate tax introduced in 2023. let's go live to peter saull, who is in westminster. we expected this result, did we?— result, did we? yes, the result is 319 vote to _ result, did we? yes, the result is 319 vote to 238, _ result, did we? yes, the result is 319 vote to 238, a majority - result, did we? yes, the result is 319 vote to 238, a majority of - result, did we? yes, the result is 319 vote to 238, a majority of 71. | 319 vote to 238, a majority of 71. very comfortable for the conservative led government, and there are a few abstentions in there. we will get the full
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breakdown in the next half hour or so. a few conservatives have made clear they weren't entirely happy with the plan. about how many of them voted against it, probably none. they would've decided not to vote or abstain. that is the result. it does mean that this major plan that successive governments have failed to grapple with in the uk has taken a significant step towards becoming a reality. quite a lot of detail still to be ironed out, but it is clear that first major parliamentary hurdle with these. it also mean the conservative party have broken a manifesto pledge made ijy have broken a manifesto pledge made by borisjohnson a number of times. that's right, in order to fulfil the promise he made on his first day of my minister, he's had to break another —— prime minister. he said it was a guarantee no taxes would rise on his watch. i suppose his get out ofjail rise on his watch. i suppose his get out of jail free as rise on his watch. i suppose his get out ofjail free as the pandemic because this government, much like
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governments around the world, has had to spend williams a pounds and keeping the upon me afloat —— of billions of pounds. he will say that and continue to make that argument, and continue to make that argument, and he said in the house of commons today that you leaves a government that's prepared to make the difficult choices. the question is whether the voters can now trust the tory party going into elections because this isn't the first promise broken. there have been other promises on foreign aid, on the triple lock for pensions, which means the state pension will not go up means the state pension will not go up as it might have done because of a slight tweak this year. no doubt the conservatives will continue to say this is a government that goes back on its word, but borisjohnson argument is successive government has failed to do this. we are a government that gets things done. peter, i'll stop you there so we can hear the moment. the
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peter, i'll stop you there so we can hear the moment.— hear the moment. the ayes to the ri . ht, hear the moment. the ayes to the right. 319. — hear the moment. the ayes to the right, 319. the — hear the moment. the ayes to the right, 319. the noes— hear the moment. the ayes to the right, 319. the noes to _ hear the moment. the ayes to the right, 319. the noes to the - hear the moment. the ayes to the right, 319. the noes to the left, i right, 319. the noes to the left, 248~ _ right, 319. the noes to the left, 248~ the — right, 319. the noes to the left, 248. the ayes have it, unlock. we've 'ust talked 248. the ayes have it, unlock. we've just talked a — 248. the ayes have it, unlock. we've just talked a second _ 248. the ayes have it, unlock. we've just talked a second ago _ 248. the ayes have it, unlock. we've just talked a second ago about - just talked a second ago about critics of the conservative party. but there have been supporters of this, haven't there? they said the social care system in this country badly needs reform.— badly needs reform. that's right. the idea of— badly needs reform. that's right. the idea of a cap _ badly needs reform. that's right. the idea of a cap on _ badly needs reform. that's right. the idea of a cap on the - badly needs reform. that's right. the idea of a cap on the overall. the idea of a cap on the overall amount of money that anyone will have to pay for their care in their lifetime is not a new one. it was proposed some years ago by a review. the framework was put in place by the previous conservative and liberal democrat coalition government. so this has been a long time coming, and the care sector has broadly welcomed the idea that there will be that in place. the idea it
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will be that in place. the idea it will be that in place. the idea it will be tested, too. depending on how much assets people have. but there are still plenty of details left to iron out. there's a real problem in terms of training and the tension of care staff, in terms of the overall quality of care as well. earlier on today, the labour leader sir keir starmer asked borisjohnson sir keir starmer asked boris johnson if sir keir starmer asked borisjohnson if he can guarantee that no one will have to sell their homes to pay for care. borisjohnson still wasn't able to answer that question. lots more to debate on this one, but a significant step before becoming reality. significant step before becoming reali . . , , ., ., reality. peter, in westminster, good to talk to you- _ reality. peter, in westminster, good to talk to you. let's _ reality. peter, in westminster, good to talk to you. let's move _ reality. peter, in westminster, good to talk to you. let's move on. - afghanistan's former president, ashraf ghani, has apologised for the taliban takeover in his country. he's issued a statement saying his abrupt departure was the only way to save lives. he says that he left on the advice of palace security because he was told that remaining in kabul risked setting off what he called "the same horrific street—to—street
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fighting the city had suffered during the civil war of the 1990s." he also addresses claims he "fled with millions of dollars belonging to the afghan people", calling them "completely and categorically false". and he apologises to the afghan people that he, as he puts it, "could not make it end differently". here's our south asia correspondent, yogita limaye. today, giving reasons for why he decided to leave in the manner that he did on the 15th of august. he says that he was told that there would be "horrific street—to—street fighting , " as he puts it, if he had chosen to stay, and he wanted to save kabul, a city of 6 million people. as you said, he also rejects allegations of him fleeing with millions of dollars, as was alleged by many people once he left. he says he's open to financial audits, even his close aides are open to any kind
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of financial investigations. he goes on to say that he apologises to afghan people that he couldn't make it end differently, that he couldn't ensure stability or prosperity for them. i've been seeing some reactions from ordinary afghans to this statement, people thinking it's too late, and also saying that, "you left us all to suffer, and the nation will not forget and it will not forgive." and i can imagine there are lots of afghans reading that statement today and feeling the same. meanwhile, protests against the taliban and their new government are continuing in kabul. these women took to the streets, despite reports that other female demonstrators had been abused by the taliban. they were protesting the fact the newly—announced taliban government has no women. we're told this march was quickly dispersed by armed taliban security. let's hearfrom habiba sarabi.
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she's a former minister of women's affairs in afghanistan. to be honest, it is not a surprise for me because we... at least i could understand that they don't believe in women's rights and they don't believe in inclusivity. that's why it's not a surprise for me. but of course, afghanistan need... all the people of afghanistan from different corners of afghanistan need to be present to the government, but this government is not responding to them, not to the desire of the people. people cannot see themselves included. women is 50% of the society. how they can ignore women from all level? that was habiba sarabi — and it's worth pointing out that under the previous president ashraf ghani, there were only three women in a cabinet of 28 ministers.
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let's move on to some reaction to the announcement of this hardline taliban government. it includes a prime minister who's on a un blacklist and interior minister who's wanted by the fbi for allegedly planning terror attacks. afghanistan's resistance fighters have urged the world to "hold off "recognition of, and refrain from diplomatic ties with, "the taliban's regime". and we've heard from the us secretary of state, antony blinken. despite professing a new government would _ despite professing a new government would he _ despite professing a new government would be inclusive, _ despite professing a new government would be inclusive, the _ despite professing a new government would be inclusive, the names - would be inclusive, the names consist— would be inclusive, the names consist inclusively_ would be inclusive, the names consist inclusively of— would be inclusive, the namesj consist inclusively of members would be inclusive, the names i consist inclusively of members of the taliban— consist inclusively of members of the taliban and _ consist inclusively of members of the taliban and associates - consist inclusively of members of the taliban and associates and i consist inclusively of members of| the taliban and associates and no women _ the taliban and associates and no women we're _ the taliban and associates and no women. we're also— the taliban and associates and no women. we're also concerned - the taliban and associates and no women. we're also concerned byl the taliban and associates and no i women. we're also concerned by the track— women. we're also concerned by the track records — women. we're also concerned by the track records of _ women. we're also concerned by the track records of some _ women. we're also concerned by the track records of some of— women. we're also concerned by the track records of some of those - track records of some of those individuals _ track records of some of those individuals. we _ track records of some of those individuals. we understand - track records of some of those| individuals. we understand the taliban— individuals. we understand the taliban presented _ individuals. we understand the taliban presented this - individuals. we understand the taliban presented this as - individuals. we understand the taliban presented this as a - individuals. we understand thel taliban presented this as a care tape or— taliban presented this as a care tape or cabinet. _ taliban presented this as a care tape or cabinet. we _ taliban presented this as a care tape or cabinet. we willjudge l taliban presented this as a care| tape or cabinet. we willjudge it and them — tape or cabinet. we willjudge it and them by— tape or cabinet. we willjudge it and them by its _ tape or cabinet. we willjudge it and them by its actions —— - and them by its actions —— caretaker _
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here's more from dr ayesha siddiqa from the centre for international studies at soas university here in london. i really wonder why the world expected to have taliban deliver on their promise. they have gained a victory in war and they want to capitalise on it. firstly, their argument, the taliban argument is that this is just an interim government and when there will be a government, a second phase they will be more inclusive. the indications are that they are not being inclusive. i don't think that it was right to expect from the taliban to have an inclusive government. they are capitalising on their gains at the moment. humanitarian organisations are keeping their focus on afghanistan. according to the un, about half the country's population — that's 18 million people — are in need of assistance. the president of the international committee of the red cross has travelled to kabul. our chief international correspondent, lyse doucet, met him at a prosthetics
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rehabilitation centre. we never have to forget that afghanistan is probably the country in the world but the most people disabled, worldwide. four to 5% of the population lives with disability, this is a huge number. so, here is really the origin, the beginning and at the same time, the most hopeful part of what a humanitarian organisation can do. you speak about hope but you are arriving in afghanistan where it's starting again, taliban leadership and many are worried if not fearful. many afghans tell us that they willjudge the taliban not by their statements but by their actions. what would be the first actions you would ask of them? in many respects, it's the continuation of what we have been able to do in the past. we will have seen and you see that
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in our programmes women, girls, men are working alongside that we have developed social activities in a physical rehabilitation centre which are inclusive where men and women are able to develop both up, and we have i think, in the past found the balance between the respecting local traditions and local values and at the same time, respectful. so, one gives perspectives to rights and to inequality which the international community and rightly so is asking for. —— and equality to richmond in the us state of virginia, where the statue of a confederate general riding a horse hasjust been taken down from monument avenue. the statue is of robert e lee and was first erected 130 years ago.
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cheering this is the moment the statue was lifted off its pedestal in front of cheering crowds. the moment was also livestreamed on virginia governor ralph northam's social media pages. it's the last confederate monument on monument avenue and activists have been demanding its removal for a long time. in 2020, it became the focus of protests in the state after the murder of the black man, george floyd, by a white police officer in minneapolis. let me show you these images where you can clearly see the pedestal. it was covered in graffiti during the protests, and is the only part of the monument that won't be removed for the time being. the state supreme court cleared the path for its removal last week. after the vote, virginia governor ralph northam's tweeted: let's hear what some locals made
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of the statue's removal today. it's a beautiful moment in this country. this isn't the end, but it signifies that we're accepting the past or what it really is. we can't hold the confederacy and people like robert e lee on statues any more. we've got to hold the truth on a statue. �* , , ., ., statue. it's been a long time coming- _ statue. it's been a long time coming- i'm _ statue. it's been a long time coming- i'm a _ statue. it's been a long time coming. i'm a native, - statue. it's been a long time coming. i'm a native, and i statue. it's been a long time| coming. i'm a native, and i'm statue. it's been a long time - coming. i'm a native, and i'm 67 years— coming. i'm a native, and i'm 67 years old — coming. i'm a native, and i'm 67 years old. seeing this, finally come downy _ years old. seeing this, finally come down, it's— years old. seeing this, finally come down, it's a — years old. seeing this, finally come down, it's a moment ofjoy for me because _ down, it's a moment ofjoy for me because it — down, it's a moment ofjoy for me because it represents so much oppression because of who robert e lee represents. i�*m oppression because of who robert e lee represents-— lee represents. i'm not directly offended by _ lee represents. i'm not directly offended by it. _ lee represents. i'm not directly offended by it, but— lee represents. i'm not directly offended by it, but imagine - lee represents. i'm not directly offended by it, but imagine it's| lee represents. i'm not directly i offended by it, but imagine it's got to be _ offended by it, but imagine it's got to be hard — offended by it, but imagine it's got to be hard for— offended by it, but imagine it's got to be hard for black _ offended by it, but imagine it's got to be hard for black people - offended by it, but imagine it's got to be hard for black people to - to be hard for black people to have to be hard for black people to have to go _ to be hard for black people to have to go by— to be hard for black people to have to go by those _ to be hard for black people to have to go by those statues _ to be hard for black people to have to go by those statues in— to be hard for black people to have to go by those statues in a - to be hard for black people to have to go by those statues in a public. to go by those statues in a public space _ to go by those statues in a public space in— to go by those statues in a public space in a —
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to go by those statues in a public space in a public— to go by those statues in a public space in a public street _ to go by those statues in a public space in a public street on - to go by those statues in a public space in a public street on a - to go by those statues in a publicj space in a public street on a daily basis _ space in a public street on a daily basis so— space in a public street on a daily basis so i— space in a public street on a daily basis. so i think— space in a public street on a daily basis. so i think they're - space in a public street on a dailyj basis. so i think they're offensive and need — basis. so i think they're offensive and need to— basis. so i think they're offensive and need to come _ basis. so i think they're offensive and need to come down. - i'm joined byjames gannon, who's a freelance journalist and also a descendant of robert e lee. he's in seattle. thanks so much for joining us. let me ask you why is this statue so significant in the united states and the state of virginia? united states and the state of vir: inia? . ~ united states and the state of vir: inia? ., ,, i. united states and the state of viruinia? . ~' ,, ~ united states and the state of vir: inia? ., ,, i. . ., virginia? thank you. well, i think it's important _ virginia? thank you. well, i think it's important to _ virginia? thank you. well, i think it's important to remember - virginia? thank you. well, i think it's important to remember the l it's important to remember the historical context in which the statue was erected. about a decade after the end of the civil war, the north had won, but failed in their policy of reconstruction to rebuild the south into a more equal society. once they had withdrawn, the same people that were in charge during the confederacy were back in charge in states like virginia and cities like richmond. what they set out to do was create systems and societies that emulated what had occurred during slavery, where whites were
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first and blacks were second—class citizens. that took the form ofjim crow laws, and also the case of symbols such as the statue that symbolised that whites were still supreme. it's amazing that continued up supreme. it's amazing that continued up until the second day, but it was a very hopeful sign that is now come down. ., ., ., , a very hopeful sign that is now come down. ., ., .,, _, ., down. now that it has come down, what do you _ down. now that it has come down, what do you think _ down. now that it has come down, what do you think the _ down. now that it has come down, what do you think the impact - down. now that it has come down, what do you think the impact will l down. now that it has come down, | what do you think the impact will be in race relations in the us? weill. in race relations in the us? well, as some of _ in race relations in the us? well, as some of those _ in race relations in the us? well, as some of those great _ in race relations in the us? well, as some of those great voices i in race relations in the us? well, | as some of those great voices that we heard from in the intro said, this is a very hopeful moment. i think a lot of the people i've worked with and talk to in richmond told me they feel a profound sense of hope that something is very different in this era. and there is hope for real change. but it's also important to remember that the removal of this statue in and of itself will not save a black man
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from being gunned down by police, it won't save a black and brown children from being disproportionately affected by covid or climate change and it won't let a single cent in the hands of black people who have ten sense of wealth for every dollar that white americans do.— for every dollar that white americans do. , ., , americans do. sorry to interrupt. i want to ask _ americans do. sorry to interrupt. i want to ask you — americans do. sorry to interrupt. i want to ask you about _ americans do. sorry to interrupt. i want to ask you about your - americans do. sorry to interrupt. i i want to ask you about your personal viewpoint. just explain to the audience your relationship to the person it represents. 50. audience your relationship to the person it represents.— person it represents. so, i am a descendent — person it represents. so, i am a descendent of _ person it represents. so, i am a descendent of the _ person it represents. so, i am a descendent of the lee _ person it represents. so, i am a descendent of the lee family. i | person it represents. so, i am a - descendent of the lee family. i have people in... my grandmother was raised by someone who was enslaved by our family, raised by someone who was enslaved by ourfamily, so i knew someone that knew someone that was enslaved. that's how close this history still is. and while i know i'm not responsible for the terrible atrocities that this man on the statue committed, just as i am not responsible for the wrong things
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that white people may do to perpetuate systematic racism in the united states, i do feel a responsibility because i have benefited from the privileges that batman set up in the system in the united states —— that that man. so that's why i feel an obligation to speak in favour of the removal of the statue and i'm very glad it's finally happened, but also, on the work that needs to be done for race relations in our country.— relations in our country. james, it's been so _ relations in our country. james, it's been so good _ relations in our country. james, it's been so good to _ relations in our country. james, it's been so good to talk - relations in our country. james, it's been so good to talk to - relations in our country. james, j it's been so good to talk to you. thank you so much for coming on the programme. thank you so much for coming on the programme-— we'll get the latest on the us open after emma raducanu's quarterfinal victory against belinda bencic.
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schools in northern ireland have been overwhelmed by what teaching unions are calling a 'tsunami' of absences due to covid. our ireland correspondent, emma vardy, has this report. one of the pupils in the class has been tested positive for covid, so you need to come and collect your daughter at school now. less than three weeks into the new term, and more than half of larne high school's 700 pupils are at home self—isolating and waiting for covid test results so they can return. it's just been crazy, lots of people off. last year, we all went off and came back better, but it's almost come back worse. she will need to isolate, then. and the school's just been notified of another positive case. as well as having to contact everyone in that pupil's form class, they will have been in other classes for different subjects, too, so the list grows longer. normally, this class would have a year 12 geography class doing gcse, but as you can see today, there are no children in the room. in northern ireland,
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the job of contact tracing has fallen to schools themselves, but many say it's not sustainable. by 10:20pm on sunday night, we had had to contact over 300 families and ask them to have their children tested for covid. did you ever imagine it'd be so many pupils off at one time? no, we didn't. i think what we're really looking for is a long—term strategy, new proposals are being put together to deal with the high rate of absences ahead of the assembly being recalled tomorrow, and it's likely that the responsibility for track and trace will be taken away from teachers and become the job of northern ireland's public health agency instead. the first minister of northern ireland, paul givan, has suggested going further. instead of sending pupils for the more time—consuming pcr tests, to use instant lateral flow tests instead, but there isn't the same confidence in the results. it's very, very disruptive for the children. i'm so bored, i can't be bothered. more support from the public health agency should ease the burden on northern ireland's schools. but ahead of tomorrow's emergency stormont debate, teachers are calling for a bigger change in strategy, or say children will be caught in a cycle of missing school, which will continue to be disruptive.
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emma vardy, bbc news. this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story... france's biggest ever terrorism trial has started. some of the 20 people accused have appeared in court. among them, the only surviving alleged gunman. british tennis sensation emma raducanu has been in action at the us open. the 18—year—old is the youngest british player to reach the quarterfinals at flushing meadows for more than 50 years. she has done all this without dropping a single set in the
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tournament so far. her opponent was belinda bencic, switzerland. she is ranked 130 places above emma. the former edition number one tweeted it... claire was also watching the game. wow, wow, wow! she's dead. she watched with her lovely neighbours and sounded herself course. let's speak to spencer, who is a sports journalist and on the line from cardiff. absolutely amazing performance from emma. yeah, words almost fail me. i had a
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feeling she won't do it largely because of the way she's been playing. these are matches that she hasn't... she'sjust been hammering anybody who she comes across completely out of sight. i think it's almost her youth in many ways. it's worked in herfavour. she such a newcomer to the tour. she's just going out, having fun, hitting the ball and winning. winning can be contagious, and that's what she's doing at the moment. i can't see any reason why she can't win the whole thing. reason why she can't win the whole thin. ., , , , thing. her return of serve is 'ust amazin: thing. her return of serve is 'ust amazing and fi thing. her return of serve is 'ust amazing and just i thing. her return of serve is 'ust amazing and just the i thing. her return of serve is 'ust amazing and just the way i thing. her return of serve isjust amazing and just the way she i thing. her return of serve isjust - amazing and just the way she plays, it's so intelligent in terms of the way she plays every single point. for an 18—year—old, that's pretty incredible. for an 18-year-old, that's pretty incredible-— for an 18-year-old, that's pretty incredible. i've got to be honest, it's come as _ incredible. i've got to be honest, it's come as a — incredible. i've got to be honest, it's come as a surprise _ incredible. i've got to be honest, it's come as a surprise to - incredible. i've got to be honest, it's come as a surprise to a - incredible. i've got to be honest, it's come as a surprise to a lot i incredible. i've got to be honest, it's come as a surprise to a lot of us, even as seen seasoned tennis
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hacks. we haven't really seen much of anyone over the last couple of years because of covid. i keep an eye on a the british team, and there wasn't much of a buzz around her then. not like when andy murray first came through. then covid happened, and everyone had to go there separate ways. now suddenly, she's been unleashed on the world this year. and now, this. so it has come out of the blue notjust to fans, but a lot of people like myself. it's great to.- fans, but a lot of people like myself. it's great to. let's look ahead because _ myself. it's great to. let's look ahead because she _ myself. it's great to. let's look ahead because she still- myself. it's great to. let's look ahead because she still has - myself. it's great to. let's lookj ahead because she still has the myself. it's great to. let's look- ahead because she still has the semi finals to play. she may get through to the final. that's a lot of pressure on such a young player. it is, but the way she is playing, and
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the way she is hitting the ball in the way she is hitting the ball in the way she seems to be smiling her way through it, you just think she's on some kind of role. serena williams, of course, it looks like her time may be finally gone. you've got naomi osaka, who has her own issues going on. you have the favourite, ash party, whose got knocked out by shelby rogers, who has beaten by emma and you think without those big names, you will have in the finals for players who were all fancy their chances —— ash barty. here's a stat for you. emma, 60 days ago, wasn't in the top ten. when i say that, she wasn't even in the top ten british female singles. that is amazing.—
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that is amazing. that's how far she's come _ that is amazing. that's how far she's come stop _ that is amazing. that's how far she's come stop we _ that is amazing. that's how far she's come stop we might - that is amazing. that's how far - she's come stop we might incredible performance and she's come stop we might incredible performance— she's come stop we might incredible erformance . . ~' , ., . performance and thank you so much, sencer. performance and thank you so much, spencer- that's _ performance and thank you so much, spencer. that's it _ performance and thank you so much, spencer. that's it from _ spencer. that's it from outside source, bye—bye. hello there. this is typical british summertime in a way, three fine days and a thunderstorm. we've had the heat far wide again today, just had the hardest september day in scotland since 1906, it was around london, heathrow that we saw the highest temperatures with 30 degrees. but in the south—west earlier today we had some thunder and lightning and also some flash flooding in devon. those storms have since moved away, but we still have an area of low pressure circulating to the southwest of the uk and there's another band of storm that's developing in france to bring some wetter weather towards more eastern parts of southern england. on top of that, it is still very warm. these are the temperatures at 11 o'clock tonight 20, 21 degrees and quite a few places
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and muggy, too. and if that wasn't enough, we've got this thunder and lightning and heavy downpours to come across southeast england moving up across east anglia and moving up into north england with more showers coming back into wales in the southwest. so, a lot of cloud around overnight, and these are the temperatures by the end of the night. as we head into tomorrow, we've still got some heavy, thundery rain to move away from eastern england. moving northwards into scotland, and elsewhere, we are going to find showers breaking out more widely. these are going to be quite slow moving and they could turn heavy and thundery, bringing a risk of some localised flooding. where we're drier perhaps in the afternoon across more eastern parts of england, temperatures still warm for this time of year. it's just not as hot as it has been of late. and temperatures are dropping and we are getting the wetter weather essentially because low pressure is moving in. and that's drifting up from the southwest, moving northwards across the uk and it's dropping the temperatures and dropping a lot of rain in places. not everywhere, mind you — many places start dry on friday, but we're likely to find some more slow—moving downpours developing all the way from southern scotland southwards.
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that again could bring some flash flooding, and those temperatures are going to be more typically back to 20 or 21 celsius by the end of the week. so, the heat is subsiding, a lot of rain in the forecast. as we head into the weekend, low pressure starts to move away and things should start to calm down a little bit as well. on saturday, we may still have quite a few showers to come in scotland, but generally this weekend, there's fewer showers, lighter showers, a lot of cloud and temperatures are going to be near—normal for this time of the year.
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this is bbc news. i'm shaun ley. the headlines at eight o'clock. mps approve a uk wide tax rise. the e es to mps approve a uk wide tax rise. the eyes to the — mps approve a uk wide tax rise. the eyes to the right, 319. the nose, 248~ _ eyes to the right, 319. the nose, 248~ so— eyes to the right, 319. the nose, 248~ so the _ eyes to the right, 319. the nose, 248. so the eyes have it, the eyes have _ 248. so the eyes have it, the eyes have it. unlock. most of the billions raised will be going to the nhs in england — and the care sector will not get its share of the extra money straight away. unfortunately, if a ship is sinking now, _ unfortunately, if a ship is sinking now. you — unfortunately, if a ship is sinking now, you cannot wait to plug the hole _ now, you cannot wait to plug the hole. services are already deteriorating inequality.
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