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this is bbc news. i'm martine croxall. the headlines at 8pm — the international travel traffic light system is being simplified in england. the amber list will be scrapped, replaced by a single red list as part of an overhaul of the rules from the 4th of october. and pcr tests will no longer be required for fully vaccinated travellers returning to england from any country not on the red list. the purpose is to make it easier for people to travel without the bureaucracy, without so many tests and with a greater level of certainty now that we've got so many people vaccinated. and coming up in about 15 minutes of your questions answered as we look
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at what the travel rules will mean for all of us. the united states mentioned the drone strike was a mistake that killed an aid worker along with his family with seven children. the transgender teenager given drugs to pause puberty. nowjudges say doctors were right to offer the treatment. wales tightens covid rules for people attending mass gatherings like sporting events and nightclubs. the united nations says a failure to cut greenhouse gas emissions is setting the world on a catastrophic path of global warming. the government has announced major changes to the covid rules for travellers leaving and entering england. it's scrapping the traffic light system — which classified countries as red, amber or green — and instead from next month, all countries will be designated either red or open,
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with people returning from red countries still having to quarantine in designated hotels. the number and type of covid tests is changing for travellers, too, from october the 4th. you'll no longer have to take a lateral flow test before setting off and won't need an expensive pcr test on return if fully vaccinated. however, there must be a lateral flow test within two days of arrival. and people who've been given vaccines approved for use in the uk will now have those innoculations recognised regardless of where in the world they were originallyjabbed. eight countries are coming off the red list from the 22nd of september, including turkey, pakistan, egypt and kenya. the changes only apply to england at present. wales and scotland say they will take the same eight countries off their red lists, but will not adopt the changes to testing for now. our transport correspondent caroline davies has more. travel has meant testing. across the country,
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centres like these popped up to swab passengers, but things are about to change. throughout the summer, the travel industry and the government have disagreed about the use of these, pcr tests, for all travellers when they arrive in the uk. the government has always argued that this is necessary to be able to identify variants of concern, but the travel industry say it's a barrier and too expensive. before the end of october, if you're double—jabbed, pcr tests are going to be replaced by the cheaper lateral flow tests. if you test positive, you will need to have a pcr test and isolate at home. it's a relief for hotels who've struggled as families have stayed away because of the added cost. the uk market has dropped between 50—70% depending on the travelling month, especially families hard hit by the restrictions implemented and the traffic light system, which obviously every three weeks is sort of like, yeah, a surprise, what's going to happen.
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so, we definitely believe this change is going to boost sales massively. it's not the only change. from the 11th of october, fully—vaccinated travellers will also not need to take a pre—departure lateral flow tester before they travel. if you're not double—jabbed, it's a very different story. you will need to take a test before you travel and self—isolate at home for ten days after every international trip, as well as paying for pcr tests. for industry, these changes can't come soon enough. very pleased with the announcement, just what we wanted to hear. i think the government has been listening to the industry. we've been interacting with them for some time. it's a great piece of news for us. it will give our customers the end of summer they deserve. so, yes, we welcome the announcement. but not everyone in the scientific community agrees that pcr tests should be removed. i would like to see pcr tests remain because they've given us _ so much information already - from the sequencing, so we know
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that when delta was introduced - into the uk, when the delta variant came in, that this virus - was imported over 500 times, and we wouldn't have the information if we weren't doing the screening - and the sequencing that's associated with that. - after months of insisting pcr tests were needed, why has the government changed its mind now? thejudgment of the judgment of the sciences and the experts has been critically abroad at a well —— level whereby we can say with a lot of confidence not only nine out of ten adults are vexing here but abroad also if they have very high numbers that we saw earlier. �* ., .,, ., earlier. and for those with loved ones in some — earlier. and for those with loved ones in some red _ earlier. and for those with loved ones in some red countries, - earlier. and for those with loved i ones in some red countries, there was good news. passengers coming back from eight countries including turkey and pakistan will no longer have to quarantine in a hotel from next wednesday. we have to quarantine in a hotel from next wednesday.— have to quarantine in a hotel from next wednesday. we are now very relaxed and _ next wednesday. we are now very relaxed and we _ next wednesday. we are now very relaxed and we are _ next wednesday. we are now very relaxed and we are happy - next wednesday. we are now very relaxed and we are happy to - next wednesday. we are now very relaxed and we are happy to see l next wednesday. we are now very l relaxed and we are happy to see our families_ relaxed and we are happy to see our families or— relaxed and we are happy to see our families or our friends or people
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who can — families or our friends or people who can move around easily. the summer it _ who can move around easily. the summer it may — who can move around easily. the summer it may be _ who can move around easily. tie: summer it may be drawing who can move around easily. tte: summer it may be drawing to who can move around easily. "tt2 summer it may be drawing to a who can move around easily. tt2 summer it may be drawing to a close, but today's announcement has given the industry some hope. for now, they're enjoying this moment in the sun. if you have any questions about the new rules and what they mean for you, then here's a chance to get some answers. i'll put some of your questions to travel expertsjulia lo bue said and lisa francesca nand on your questions answered in around ten minutes' time. get in touch using the hashtag #bbcyourquestions or e—mail yourquestions@bbc. co. uk. the united states has admitted the drone strike against a suspected car bomber in the final days of the evacuation was a mistake which killed an aid worker along with the members of his family including seven children. yourjoint out by gary o'donoghue in washington. the white house and pentagon were adamant they had got this right.
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they even described it as righteous. they even described it as righteous. they were adamant they had got it right. they described it as an imminent threat and they said they knew they had killed a member of isis kate and they were totally convinced. they did conduct an investigation and it now seems they were really badly wrong and this is a huge mistake for the american military. it seems that they had lots of circumstantial intelligence that indicated that eight toyota corolla it would be used for an attack on the airport and they followed a car around and they assumed that this was it when they saw things being loaded into the boot of the car. and they now believe that that was not explosives but really bottles of water. they also set at the time that a secondary explosion when the hellfire missile hit the car indicated there were explosives there than i believe that was a propane tank, sort of fuel tank in
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the driveway of the building the aid worker had gone to. eight real horrendous, horrendous tragedy, and a real sort of blot on the american military record in those last days in afghanistan.— military record in those last days in afghanistan. gary, we have got a cli of in afghanistan. gary, we have got a clip of general _ in afghanistan. gary, we have got a clip of general kenneth _ in afghanistan. gary, we have got a clip of general kenneth mckenzie . clip of general kenneth mckenzie from us central command speaking at the pentagon explaining what has happened and making a statement. let's listen in. i happened and making a statement. let's listen in.— let's listen in. i am now convinced that as many _ let's listen in. i am now convinced that as many as — let's listen in. i am now convinced that as many as ten _ let's listen in. i am now convinced that as many as ten children - that as many as ten children including _ that as many as ten children including up to seven children were tragically— including up to seven children were tragically killed in that strike. moreover we now assess that it is unlikely— moreover we now assess that it is unlikely that the vehicle in those who died — unlikely that the vehicle in those who died were associated with isis k or were _ who died were associated with isis k or were a _ who died were associated with isis k orwere a direct who died were associated with isis k or were a direct threat to us forces i_ or were a direct threat to us forces. i offer my profound condolences to the family and friends — condolences to the family and friends of those who were killed. this strike — friends of those who were killed. this strike was taken in the earnest belief— this strike was taken in the earnest belief that — this strike was taken in the earnest belief that it would prevent an imminent threat to our forces in the evacuees _ imminent threat to our forces in the evacuees at — imminent threat to our forces in the evacuees at the airport. but it was
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a mistake — evacuees at the airport. but it was a mistake. and i offer my sincere apology — a mistake. and i offer my sincere aolo: . , . a mistake. and i offer my sincere a halo _ , ., ~ . a mistake. and i offer my sincere aolo: . , ., a ., apology. general kenneth mckenzie at the pentagon- — apology. general kenneth mckenzie at the pentagon. this _ apology. general kenneth mckenzie at the pentagon. thisjust _ apology. general kenneth mckenzie at the pentagon. thisjust harks - apology. general kenneth mckenzie at the pentagon. thisjust harks back- the pentagon. thisjust harks back to so many times in the past where we have been reporting mistakes like this. , ., ., �* , we have been reporting mistakes like this. , ., ., �*, ., ,, ., this. yes, and that's happened not 'ust a this. yes, and that's happened not just a deck — this. yes, and that's happened not just a deck and _ this. yes, and that's happened not just a deck and stand _ this. yes, and that's happened not just a deck and stand but - this. yes, and that's happened not just a deck and stand but it - just a deck and stand but it happened obviously in syria and iraq as well. drone strikes they had to keep conducting these investigations when there were civilian casualties and and had to own up to them in the past and i think they will say to you that this is a terrible tragedy and we put our hands of this mistake but at least we are military that does put our hands up to our mistakes were asked many militaries don't. that's going to be much comfort to the family of the aid worker and his children who were killed because they were obviously and he was obviously trying to do something good for his compatriots,
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doing some work, doing some work that the americans were pulling out from doing in afghanistan, carrying on and this was how things ended for him. so it is a terrible, terrible tragedy, and it's that kind of thing that really does damage to america positive reputation abroad, something that can be in many ways a sort of recruiting search for into american feeling at american activity. american feeling at american activi . , american feeling at american activi . ., ., activity. gary, for the moment, thank you _ activity. gary, for the moment, thank you very _ activity. gary, for the moment, thank you very much, - activity. gary, for the moment, thank you very much, gary - activity. gary, for the moment, - thank you very much, gary o'donoghue in washington. an nhs trust has won its appeal to overturn a landmark ruling on the use of puberty blocking drugs for children. last year, the high court said it was "highly unlikely" that a child aged 13 or under would be able to consent to hormone blocking treatment and it was "very doubtful" that a child of 1a or 15 would understand the long term consequences. but now the court of appeal has ruled in favour of the tavistock and portman nhs foundation trust,
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which runs the uk's only gender identity development service for children, with the judges saying it's up to doctors to exercise theirjudgment on patient consent. here's alison holt. keira bell's experience of how teenage decisions shaped her life led to the original court case. at 16, desperate to transition from female to male, she was prescribed drugs to delay puberty, male hormones. now in her 20s, she believes it was a mistake. last year, she told me she should've been challenged more. the discussions were very brief, and there was no real investigation into why i had gender dysphoric feelings and how i'd got to that stage. i spoke briefly of depression and anxiety, but again it was kind of assumed by everyone that transitioning would alleviate that. she was treated here at the tavistock, the uk's only gender identity clinic for children. last december, the high court ruled that someone under 16 could not fully understand the implications of taking puberty blockers,
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so the nhs stopped prescribing them to younger people. overturning that, today's court of appealjudgment found the high court was "not in a position to give guidance that generalised about the capability of persons of different ages", concluding that "it placed patients, parents and clinicians in a difficult position and should not have been given". we're really pleased about this... the tavistock�*s chief executive says it means they can once again send young people worried about their gender identity for puberty blocker treatment after careful checks and discussion. at the heart of that is respecting what young people know about their own minds, their own bodies. and i think that's a really important principle. with all the clinical safeguards you need in cases of this kind, but respecting the autonomy of young people at the same time. working obviously with their parents and families.
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keira bell's lawyer says they are disappointed by the ruling, but he believes the case has already ensured much more scrutiny of these life—altering decisions. the case has been hugely significant in terms of medical treatment - for children with gender dysphoria, and not only in this country, - but around the world. in this country, the nhs has updated its advice l on the reversibility. of puberty blockers. an extra layer of protection has been put in place for children. who are receiving treatment at the tavistock. _ but these arguments are unlikely to be over. keira and her legal team say they hope to challenge today's ruling in the supreme court. alison holt, bbc news. the welsh government has announced tighter rules for getting into nightclubs and large scale events. from october the 11th, people will need a pass showing they've been vaccinated or a negative lateral flow test result. it comes at a time of rising covid infection rates in wales. hywel griffith reports. after bouncing back to life around britain over the summer,
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nightclubs are still for some a front line in trying to tackle the pandemic. in scotland, from october the 1st, entry will depend on having proof of vaccination, while in england, the idea has been dropped. the welsh government has decided to make covid passes compulsory instead, meaning you'll need to show your vaccine status or proof of negative lateral flow test to get in, something the industry hasn't welcomed. we really need to build the nightclubs back up. the industry has been hit very hard. so, just giving more challenges to the customer, we want to make it very easy for the customers to come and enjoy themselves. matches at larger football and rugby stadiums are included, too. travelling supporters will need to show a covid pass wherever they've come from. but it will depend on people taking the tests to give their own results. we will be making the existing covid
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pass compulsory for everyone attending high—risk venues, such as a rugby or a football match. in future, demonstrating that you have a covid pass will become a necessary condition of admission. other measures like the use of facemasks in shops and the advice to work from home are already in place in wales and failed to stop the summer spread of the virus. ministers hope covid passes will bring a new line of resistance. hywel griffith, bbc news, cardiff. the headlines on bbc news — the international travel traffic light system is being simplified in england. the amber list will be scrapped, replaced by a single red list as part of an overhaul of the rules from the 4th of october. and pcr tests will no longer be required for fully vaccinated
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travellers returning to england from any country not on the red list. the united states admits the drone strike against a aid worker along with his family with seven children was a mistake. the government is putting controversial changes to the planning system in england on hold. it's understood the new housing secretary, michael gove, wants to re—examine the proposals amid concerns from some conservative backbenchers that they give too much power to housing developers. government sources have said the review does not mean the reforms are being scrapped. the united nations says failure to cut greenhouse gas emissions is setting the world on a "catastrophic" path of global warming. a new report by the un has found that pledges made to curb emissions won't actually meet the ambitions of the paris climate change agreement signed in 2015 to limit global warming to 1.5 degrees celsius above pre—industrial
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temperatures. scientists recently confirmed that to avoid the worst impacts, global carbon emissions had to be cut by 45% by 2030. new analysis shows those emissions are set to rise by 60% during this period. —— those emissions are set to rise by 60% during this period. “16%. our science editor david shukman was listening to un chief antonio guterres's comments and gave us his assessment. well, it's a pretty blunt assessment, isn't it? strong words from him as we approach the climate summit in glasgow in six weeks' time. so, what happens is under the paris agreement on climate change, countries who take part in that agreement, and that's pretty well every country on earth, is every five years meant to submit to the un an updated climate plan, a reduction plan, explaining how they're going to reduce their emissions. well, many countries have submitted plans of that kind,
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and if you add them up, you do see some reduction in overall emissions in them in all, but many, many countries, including some of the biggest polluters, have not updated their plans. i mean, crucially, china, saudi arabia, india, turkey. and so, without them, emissions, according to the un, are still on track to increase. in fact, the calculation they've done, and this is the bit that i think is causing shockwaves, is that they project that by 2030 global emissions will be 16% bigger than they are now. now, hold that figure of 16% in mind, because not long ago, we had un climate scientists saying that to head off the worst dangers of global warming, particularly in the middle of the century and later on, we need to be cutting emissions roughly by half, by 45%, by 2030. so, actually, the world
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is going in the wrong direction, and we've heard from antonio guterres. in fact, the executive secretary of the un's climate programme has talked about a huge cause for concern because the world has broadly, in loose terms, talked about the need to act on climate change, but when you drill down to what the collective total of effort from all the different governments, well, we're just not getting there. david shenkman there. two men have appeared in court charged with the journalist lyra mckee in londonderry. she was shot dead in 2019. lyra mckee's death had a huge impact
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in northern ireland. she was a gay rights that lgbt activist. in the community we have eight saying that it gets better. she had been stood near police in derry�*s to hse estate, as rioters threw petrol bombs at officers. ira, threw a bomb at police, and she was killed. today two men from dairy appeared via video link in the magistrate court charged with murder. prosecution said the 33—year—old peter gearoid cavanagh escorted the gunman and jordan devine, 21,
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it is claimed encouraged him, punching the air as the shots were fired. the two men are also charged with possession of a gun and rioting. both are said to be said to the dissident group claimed by police to be the new ira, described in court by the judge today is having a mindless ideology. the defence said the evidence against the men was weak and they were released on bail. police believe the dissident group the new ira still pose a threat in northern ireland, especially to the communities they live in. the memory of lyra mckee's death continues to evoke strong emotions here. those in court today accused of her murder have not yet entered a plea and they will appear again next month. emma vardy, bbc news, derry. it's beenjust over a month since the taliban seized control of afghanistan, and while it's been confimed that a number of british citizens will be arriving into qatarfrom kabul tonight, there are still uk citizens and afghans who worked with british forces who haven't been granted resettlement status in the uk. britain has more than 15,000 people leave afghanistan, but our special correspondent lucy manning has been speaking to some of those who are still trapped and fearing for their lives under taliban rule. the bbc has changed some of their names to protect their identities. i feel betrayed and we feel left behind.
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on the run... help those people who help you in your operations. ..stranded... now i'm really stuck, _ and there is taliban everywhere. they haven't done anything for me, you know? - ..in hiding. all feel abandoned by britain. for afghans who worked with uk forces, week—by—week, the fear rises. with reports some have been murdered, ahmed, a former interpreter, is now having to stay apart from his family. i'm living from place to place. how difficult is the situation for you at the moment? it's very, very difficult for me, financially and from the security perspective, and also mentally. ahmed was told by british officials last month to go to the airport, but the crush was too much when his two—month—old daughter was with him. do you think the government are doing enough to help people like you who haven't been able to get out? i feel betrayed, because we were the people deserving to be relocated, we have helped them, but when they left us behind, we really feel betrayed.
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shot by the taliban while on patrol with british troops in helmand, his life once again at risk. as the days and weeks passes by, i don't know what's going to be my destiny. i don't know if i can survive. former interpreter mujib might appear to be one of the lucky ones. the uk is encouraging afghans to get to other countries. he made it to dubai, but is still stranded. i saw the news that the british government said, "we are happy to evacuate the people to a third country." but it seems now that they have no plan for the third countries. i don't know where to go next. i'm just waiting, every day i'm checking my e—mail to have some good news from the uk government. but i'm not receiving anything now for weeks. there is no reply. nothing. so, i don't know what to do next. and i have no idea where to go.
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ziyad came to see his sick mother, and now with his wife and child can't get back to his home and job in wales. he's far from the only one. as you can see my otheri cousin sitting over there, i'm going to show him in the camera, he's. also a british citizen. he's also waiting for that. there's loads of people i who is waiting to just get up from here and take i theirfamily with them. lots of my schoolmates are here as well. - there's loads of people are stuck. do you feel that you've been left behind? of course, because it's notjust one or two or ten people, _ there's more than hundreds. i can't see that the british - government is taking the action and they are not serious about the citizens. - until now, i didn't receive any help. i 13 britons left afghanistan on this flight to qatar last week. the government says it has evacuated 15,000 people and is still committed to helping the rest. but until that happens, hundreds are left fearing
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the taliban could get to them first. lucy manning, bbc news. now on bbc news, your questions answered. welcome to your questions answered, and many of you have been writing in and asking what the new travel rules mean for you. here to answer them arejulia lo bue said, ceo of the advantage travel partnership, and lisa francesca nand, presenter of the big travel podcast. nobody can say we have not responded quickly when we have these changes and we are really grateful to you both forjoining us. let's start with this one from ten in aylesbury. we are travelling to germany for our son posten wedding at the end of september. what happens if the rules of change while we are away? weill.
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of change while we are away? well, firstl , of change while we are away? well, firstly. tim. — of change while we are away? well, firstly. tim. i— of change while we are away? well, firstly, tim, i think— of change while we are away? well, firstly, tim, i think the _ of change while we are away? well, firstly, tim, i think the good - of change while we are away? -tt firstly, tim, i think the good news as the news has been released today is the rules won't be changing when you are away. it depends of course how long you are for but the rules are changing on the 4th of october. so germany is a green listen nothing bad will be happening to you or changing so you can go ahead on your holiday, secure you will have a lovely time to be able to come back into the country and everything be ok. ., �* , , into the country and everything be ok. . a , 0k. that's good news with everyone is auoin to 0k. that's good news with everyone is going to be _ ok. that's good news with everyone is going to be as— 0k. that's good news with everyone is going to be as pleased _ 0k. that's good news with everyone is going to be as pleased with - 0k. that's good news with everyone is going to be as pleased with the i is going to be as pleased with the answers as you have just given. mark says i am della jabbed and might certificate on my nhs app says my vaccination proof expires on the 17th of october. if we are not offered a booster, will that expiry date be extended? i’ge offered a booster, will that expiry date be extended?— offered a booster, will that expiry date be extended? i've got even more aood news date be extended? i've got even more good news for — date be extended? i've got even more good news for mark _ date be extended? i've got even more good news for mark today. _ date be extended? i've got even more good news for mark today. so - date be extended? i've got even more good news for mark today. so the - date be extended? i've got even more good news for mark today. so the app| good news for mark today. so the app he is looking at with the expiry date, — he is looking at with the expiry date, every time you log into the nhs app — date, every time you log into the nhs app it— date, every time you log into the nhs app it gives you an expiry date 30 days— nhs app it gives you an expiry date 30 days so— nhs app it gives you an expiry date 30 days so when mark walked in
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tomorrow — 30 days so when mark walked in tomorrow or the day after he will .ive tomorrow or the day after he will give it— tomorrow or the day after he will give it 30 — tomorrow or the day after he will give it 30 days. so that's the expiry— give it 30 days. so that's the expiry date of the 2d card, the bark of this— expiry date of the 2d card, the bark of this on— expiry date of the 2d card, the bark of this on there. so that's all standard, _ of this on there. so that's all standard, that is all fine. in terms of the _ standard, that is all fine. in terms of the booster programme, we have to see what _ of the booster programme, we have to see what happens with that but there is never— see what happens with that but there is never talk right now as to whether— is never talk right now as to whether other countries will require the booster and what that then looks like for _ the booster and what that then looks like for vaccination status. so right— like for vaccination status. so right now— like for vaccination status. so right now mark can travel freely using _ right now mark can travel freely using his — right now mark can travel freely using his nhs app which will refresh every— using his nhs app which will refresh every 30 _ using his nhs app which will refresh every 30 days. you using his nhs app which will refresh every 30 days-— every 30 days. you do have to keep aiavin into every 30 days. you do have to keep giving into the _ every 30 days. you do have to keep giving into the app. _ every 30 days. you do have to keep giving into the app, though, - every 30 days. you do have to keep giving into the app, though, to - every 30 days. you do have to keep. giving into the app, though, to make that refresh happen? it giving into the app, though, to make that refresh happen?— that refresh happen? it depends how lona ou that refresh happen? it depends how long you are — that refresh happen? it depends how long you are travelling _ that refresh happen? it depends how long you are travelling for. _ that refresh happen? it depends how long you are travelling for. if - that refresh happen? it depends how long you are travelling for. if you - long you are travelling for. if you are going — long you are travelling for. if you are going away within 30 days, don't forget _ are going away within 30 days, don't forget you _ are going away within 30 days, don't forget you really need that obviously for arrival to show but also _ obviously for arrival to show but also a _ obviously for arrival to show but also a return so as long as you were in that— also a return so as long as you were in that period — also a return so as long as you were in that period of time you won't need _ in that period of time you won't need to go— in that period of time you won't need to go in. but it's an automatic process— need to go in. but it's an automatic process so— need to go in. but it's an automatic process so everyday when you will .et process so everyday when you will get it _ process so everyday when you will get it extended or it will expire within— get it extended or it will expire within 30 — get it extended or it will expire within 30 days of that.- get it extended or it will expire within 30 days of that. that's very aood to within 30 days of that. that's very good to know- _ within 30 days of that. that's very good to know. gosh, _ within 30 days of that. that's very good to know. gosh, two - within 30 days of that. that's very good to know. gosh, two out - within 30 days of that. that's very good to know. gosh, two out of. within 30 days of that. that's very i good to know. gosh, two out of two. lisa, no pressure. brian says with a
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trip already booked and everything organised, with a date to pcr test requirements on our return being scrapped, will i be able to get them refunded because they are quite pricey sometimes? i refunded because they are quite pricey sometimes?— refunded because they are quite pricey sometimes? i feel that the aood pricey sometimes? i feel that the good news _ pricey sometimes? i feel that the good news might _ pricey sometimes? i feel that the good news might have _ pricey sometimes? i feel that the good news might have stopped i pricey sometimes? i feel that the j good news might have stopped at those first two questions because brian i'm afraid the pcr testing companies are acting a little bit like insurance companies and i know of nobody who has had a refund it so far. people who had their pcr test messed up and they have not been able to take their flights and they all say they have it in their terms and conditions strict no refund policy. brian if you are feeling brave i would love you to call the company and see if you can do it. you never know, they might be nice, but i am not holding out much hope for that, but i am not holding out much hope forthat, i'm but i am not holding out much hope for that, i'm afraid.— for that, i'm afraid. brian came to be a consumer— for that, i'm afraid. brian came to be a consumer warrior. _ for that, i'm afraid. brian came to be a consumer warrior. julia, - for that, i'm afraid. brian came to be a consumer warrior. julia, we i be a consumer warrior. julia, we have had quite a few questions about this because when the new rules get talked about, the assumption is sort of weird talking about adults over
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18 who for months now could have got themselves to jabs. but what's the impact going to be on children of different ages, 16 and 17—year—olds who have been offer the jabbed for little while now that most of them i think of only had one or necessarily been offered the second, and then there are the 12—15 —year—olds who are having a lot of discussion about whether they should get jabs are having a lot of discussion about whether they should getjabs or not and the answer seems to be yes. so paula and hastings covers it for us, saying will children be classed as fully vaccinated and not require outbound testing prior to travel even though so far they are only offered being one jack? even though so far they are only offered being one jack? paulette make the really _ offered being one jack? paulette make the really important - offered being one jack? paulette make the really important point| offered being one jack? paulette i make the really important point and something that we desperately have been trying to find out in the few hours _ been trying to find out in the few hours since — been trying to find out in the few hours since we have received any information. quite a bit of ambiguity on this right now so as it stands _ ambiguity on this right now so as it stands right now, today, paul and looking _ stands right now, today, paul and looking to — stands right now, today, paul and looking to go on holiday before the 4th of— looking to go on holiday before the 4th of october, her child would need to have _ 4th of october, her child would need to have a _ 4th of october, her child would need to have a predeparture test and what
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we don't _ to have a predeparture test and what we don't know right now under the new rules — we don't know right now under the new rules after the 4th of october, fully vaccinated adults can travel without the need for a treat return to uk_ without the need for a treat return to uk test— without the need for a treat return to uk test and there is ambiguity on this we _ to uk test and there is ambiguity on this we are — to uk test and there is ambiguity on this we are still trying to find this we are still trying to find this out _ this we are still trying to find this out. we will not find out that we are _ this out. we will not find out that we are happy to put it out on twitter— we are happy to put it out on twitter posts as when we find that out to _ twitter posts as when we find that out to really clarify the rules for children — out to really clarify the rules for children under the new international travel— children under the new international travel rules — children under the new international travel rules they have not quite been _ travel rules they have not quite been found and we are trying to work that through. has the detail been released yet? that he tapped the moment is the current— that he tapped the moment is the current detail which is children between — current detail which is children between 11 and 17, as it stands right— between 11 and 17, as it stands right now. _ between 11 and 17, as it stands right now, they would need to do that predeparture test as are the current— that predeparture test as are the current rules. a government website still has _ current rules. a government website still has that information up there there _ still has that information up there there is— still has that information up there there is a — still has that information up there there is a whole section dedicated to children — there is a whole section dedicated to children on there. sol there is a whole section dedicated to children on there. so i think it would _ to children on there. so i think it would be — to children on there. so i think it would be one of those things that
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they do— would be one of those things that they do see as soon as they announce drills overnight, they will start to .et drills overnight, they will start to get up _ drills overnight, they will start to get up to— drills overnight, they will start to get up to date, and hopefully with a start to _ get up to date, and hopefully with a start to understand what that means for that _ start to understand what that means for that predeparture test, the one that creates a lot of anxiety for travellers _ that creates a lot of anxiety for travellers. what's happening to that test after— travellers. what's happening to that test after the 4th of october step i 'ust test after the 4th of october step i just shows — test after the 4th of october step i just shows how good we are at asking all the _ just shows how good we are at asking all the right— just shows how good we are at asking all the right questions, just shows how good we are at asking allthe right questions, i just shows how good we are at asking all the right questions, i suppose. lisaa _ all the right questions, i suppose. lisa, stuart— all the right questions, i suppose. lisa, stuart says he has had both of the vaccines — lisa, stuart says he has had both of the vaccines i think with all of this cause _ the vaccines i think with all of this cause a problem for international travel? internationaltravel? you know, i really want _ internationaltravel? you know, i really want to — internationaltravel? you know, i really want to say _ internationaltravel? you know, i really want to say no _ internationaltravel? you know, i really want to say no it _ internationaltravel? you know, i really want to say no it won't - internationaltravel? you know, i l really want to say no it won't cause a problem, but actually, there are some countries that it will cause a problem, unfortunately, and stewart's, what you have got to do is decide they want to go and what country you're going to have two check, check again, the us aren't even accepting astrazeneca, so it is very, very difficult and very confusing, but depending where you want to go, you have to check, but it might unfortunately to me might actually be a problem. that it might unfortunately to me might actually be a problem.— actually be a problem. that is not aood actually be a problem. that is not good news. such _ actually be a problem. that is not good news. such is _ actually be a problem. that is not good news. such is where -
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actually be a problem. that is not good news. such is where you - actually be a problem. that is not. good news. such is where you can, where you are prepared to travel and make it easy for yourself, i suppose. as luck would have it, i don't know why they are laughing, dominic and our pretties outside is very kindly forwarding me some information from our business correspondent, simon browning from equating the department for transport, which has told the bbc, "under 18 swell will not need to take a predeparture test from october the 4th when they are travelling from a nine by blessed country to england. this is because under a teams are treated as the same as vaccinated adults. when their environments to take pcr tests change later in october, that is still an undefined date, under eight teams will be treated as vaccinated as long as they are from the uk. that's helpful, isn't that? lisa is shaking her head. it is that's helpful, isn't that? lisa is shaking her head.— that's helpful, isn't that? lisa is shaking her head. it is so confusing and there are _ shaking her head. it is so confusing and there are so _ shaking her head. it is so confusing and there are so many _ shaking her head. it is so confusing and there are so many unknowns i shaking her head. it is so confusingj and there are so many unknowns at this point, and i guess this is what happens. they give us the information and then the rest of the detail trickles down afterwards, but there are still so many unknowns,
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there are still so many unknowns, there really are.— there really are. yes, i think on there really are. yes, i think on the whole. _ there really are. yes, i think on the whole. it _ there really are. yes, i think on the whole, it seems _ there really are. yes, i think on the whole, it seems like - there really are. yes, i think on the whole, it seems like good l there really are. yes, i think on - the whole, it seems like good news. it's not quite percolated down through my head yet, so i might come back to that and reassess it. julia, can someone please explain why that rules are different for him vaccinated people, given that vaccinated people, given that vaccinated people, given that vaccinated people can still get and pass on the virus?— pass on the virus? yes, that is a really good _ pass on the virus? yes, that is a really good question. _ pass on the virus? yes, that is a really good question. so - pass on the virus? yes, that is a really good question. so the - pass on the virus? yes, that is a | really good question. so the way pass on the virus? yes, that is a - really good question. so the way the uk government looks at rest, they irasically— uk government looks at rest, they basically go purely on vaccination status, _ basically go purely on vaccination status, not on transmissibility as would _ status, not on transmissibility as would entail. so they are now in the new rules, — would entail. so they are now in the new rules, they are looking at everyone _ new rules, they are looking at everyone based on an individual risk basis _ everyone based on an individual risk basis so— everyone based on an individual risk basis so if— everyone based on an individual risk basis. so if you are vaccinated, regardless _ basis. so if you are vaccinated, regardless of whether you can still transmit— regardless of whether you can still transmit the virus, they look at you as low— transmit the virus, they look at you as low risk — transmit the virus, they look at you as low risk if— transmit the virus, they look at you as low risk. if you are not vaccinated, they look at you have a hi-h vaccinated, they look at you have a high risk _ vaccinated, they look at you have a high risk so— vaccinated, they look at you have a high risk. so though way the international framework is working under the — international framework is working
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under the new guidelines they are moving _ under the new guidelines they are moving the risk to the passenger, which _ moving the risk to the passenger, which means apart from the red listed _ which means apart from the red listed countries, there is disregarding which list you come back from, which is why they amalgamate can if you like some of the green _ amalgamate can if you like some of the green and amber left. they no longer— the green and amber left. they no longer exist. we've got the rest of the world — longer exist. we've got the rest of the world and read. so long as you are coming — the world and read. so long as you are coming back from the rest of the world _ are coming back from the rest of the world and _ are coming back from the rest of the world and if— are coming back from the rest of the world and if you are nonvaccinated, they define — world and if you are nonvaccinated, they define you in a particular way which _ they define you in a particular way which means he will have to undergo all of— which means he will have to undergo all of that— which means he will have to undergo all of that testing or not, it's a convoluted way of explaining it, they don't look at the country, they are purely— they don't look at the country, they are purely looking at you from your own profile — are purely looking at you from your own profile whether you are vaccinated and unvaccinated and are treating _ vaccinated and unvaccinated and are treating you very differently. i 'ust treating you very differently. i just want _ treating you very differently. i just want to point out, actually, i suppose — just want to point out, actually, i suppose the real downside for it these _ suppose the real downside for it these changing rules, we need to look at _ these changing rules, we need to look at the — these changing rules, we need to look at the positives as well as the negatives, — look at the positives as well as the negatives, for that nonvaccinated, you know. — negatives, for that nonvaccinated, you know. a — negatives, for that nonvaccinated, you know, a lot of people are choosing _ you know, a lot of people are choosing not to be vaccinated. that is they— choosing not to be vaccinated. that is they are — choosing not to be vaccinated. that is they are called to make. the new testing _ is they are called to make. the new testing regime will be more vigorous
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for them, _ testing regime will be more vigorous for them, and they will find that they will— for them, and they will find that they will have to endure more testing — they will have to endure more testing than they have to do now, particularly if they were coming back— particularly if they were coming back from a green country. thank ou. back from a green country. thank you- lisa. — back from a green country. thank you. lisa, angela _ back from a green country. thank you. lisa, angela and _ back from a green country. thank you. lisa, angela and suffolk - back from a green country. thank| you. lisa, angela and suffolk says why are we having to wait, if it is ok to travel for half term, what about those who are going to travel now? why can't it be brought in straightaway? it now? why can't it be brought in straightaway?— now? why can't it be brought in straightaway? it is very frustrating can i straightaway? it is very frustrating cani aet straightaway? it is very frustrating can i get that. _ straightaway? it is very frustrating can i get that, and _ straightaway? it is very frustrating can i get that, and actually - straightaway? it is very frustrating can i get that, and actually the - can i get that, and actually the weight has sometimes worked for a small step when they put more countries on the red list and they get the four days to scramble back to get a flight back to mexico before you quarantine in a hotel, so sometimes the weight where expressed, but i guess it'sjust sometimes the weight where expressed, but i guess it's just the way they do it, and i guess it might be because they get part of control time to get ready, travel companies time to get ready, travel companies time to get ready, travel companies time to get ready, i am not really sure, but waiting we are until the 4th of october for the first change, and then also later in october, what does that mean? we don't know what that means. at the moment, we hope it's in time for the october half term, but certainly for my kids
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starts around the 22nd of october, but we just have to wait and see, and it's one of those frustrating unknowns at this time, but later in october is the date we have been given for the second change. thank ou. julia, given for the second change. thank you- julia. alice _ given for the second change. thank you. julia, alice asks _ given for the second change. thank you. julia, alice asks on _ given for the second change. thank you. julia, alice asks on return to l you. julia, alice asks on return to the uk, and can a person use a pharmacy test, or do you have to go to a testing station? what pharmacy test, or do you have to go to a testing station?— to a testing station? what we do know is that _ to a testing station? what we do know is that we _ to a testing station? what we do know is that we are _ to a testing station? what we do know is that we are not - to a testing station? what we do know is that we are not going to | to a testing station? what we do i know is that we are not going to be able to use the free lateral flow test. we will have to pay for private tests, whether that's pre—booked because in the current regime you have to book your pcr test, booking reference on the pli forms, passenger locatorfirms test, booking reference on the pli forms, passenger locator firms to return. that is the detail we need to understand and find out, but it is quite down the guidelines that came out today that we want to be able to use a free lateral flow test, so unfortunately for him, he will need to buy a private lateral flow test. �* ., ., ., flow test. and that will quite a lot of a-eole, flow test. and that will quite a lot of people. isn't — flow test. and that will quite a lot of people, isn't a? _ flow test. and that will quite a lot of people, isn't a? that _ flow test. and that will quite a lot of people, isn't a? that they - flow test. and that will quite a lot of people, isn't a? that they willl of people, isn't a? that they will still have to pay for them even when
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they are free. a couple of questions about vaccines given in different countries and whether they are valid or not. lizzie from ken says that they had the vaccine while in india and wants to move back to the uk but their vaccine isn't recognised. how do i get an nhs passed so i can travel in the future? do i need to get vaccinated again in the uk? n get vaccinated again in the uk? i have got some good news for you, lisa, no, you don't need to get vaccinated again. the covid shield has been accepted here. it's not accepted in all countries, so be careful if you want to travel outside of the uk once you return home, but at the moment, it is excepted here, you will not have to get a new vaccine can some good news for you. get a new vaccine can some good news for ou. ., , , ., . ., for you. that is good news. patricia asks us about _ for you. that is good news. patricia asks us about sri _ for you. that is good news. patricia asks us about sri lanka, _ for you. that is good news. patricia asks us about sri lanka, but - for you. that is good news. patricia asks us about sri lanka, but at - for you. that is good news. patricia asks us about sri lanka, but at the| asks us about sri lanka, but at the moment, that detail isn't available, so i am afraid we cannot help you at that. so that you don't think we are ignoring you. julia, neil in richmond says please advise of the travel restrictions are for the us as we are constantly getting information on europe but not so much other parts of the world. so
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many of us have been asking this question— many of us have been asking this question in— many of us have been asking this question in the industry regarding getting _ question in the industry regarding getting to the us. unfortunately, i’ili'it getting to the us. unfortunately, right now, whilst the uk government has opened _ right now, whilst the uk government has opened up for us travellers to come _ has opened up for us travellers to come and — has opened up for us travellers to come and visit us, we have not had the privilege — come and visit us, we have not had the privilege of that favour returned, shall i say, so as it stands — returned, shall i say, so as it stands right now, the biden administration do not allow brits to enter— administration do not allow brits to enter the _ administration do not allow brits to enter the borders of the us. so there _ enter the borders of the us. so there is— enter the borders of the us. so there is a — enter the borders of the us. so there is a bit more time we have to wait _ there is a bit more time we have to wait i_ there is a bit more time we have to wait i am — there is a bit more time we have to wait. i am afraid i don't want to end on— wait. i am afraid i don't want to end on bad _ wait. i am afraid i don't want to end on bad news, but it is not looking — end on bad news, but it is not looking that promising either. there are no— looking that promising either. there are no positive signs right now as it stands— are no positive signs right now as it stands as — are no positive signs right now as it stands as to when the biden administration well accept or allow brits to _ administration well accept or allow brits to enter the us.— brits to enter the us. thank you, es, it is brits to enter the us. thank you, yes. it is not _ brits to enter the us. thank you, yes, it is not looking _ brits to enter the us. thank you, yes, it is not looking clear - brits to enter the us. thank you, yes, it is not looking clear or- yes, it is not looking clear or promising at all. i was hoping that argentina would come off the red list, he is disappointed that it hasn't, but even by the statement that that the rules would apply at least until that new year, the remaining red list staying read until the new year? it
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remaining red list staying read until the new year?— remaining red list staying read until the new year? it did sound like that, worryingly. _ until the new year? it did sound like that, worryingly. i- until the new year? it did sound i like that, worryingly. i understand your frustration, like that, worryingly. i understand yourfrustration, i have been to argentina, it's a beautiful country, and so many people are separated from friends and family. we talk about holidays, but actually we live in such an international community that it in such an international community thatitis in such an international community that it is about people being separated from people they love and missing out on big life events. i too want to and on some good news and it looks like i'm not going to because grant chaps did say, he set it in a reassuring way, he meant to in a reassuring way, this is how it's going to be until the rest of the year, but of course, that is not very reassuring at the country that you want to go to bring people home from is on the red list. of course, since may, we have these three weekly updates to the traffic light system, and he did seem to indicate that this was going to stay the same now and tell the new year at least. so not very good news for you. maybe they welcome as more detail comes out, maybe they will change and give us more information on that, i do hope so. us more information on that, i do
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ho re so. ., ., us more information on that, i do hoe so. ., ., ,, ., hope so. one more to spring on you both. hope so. one more to spring on you both- i hope — hope so. one more to spring on you both- i hope you _ hope so. one more to spring on you both. i hope you can _ hope so. one more to spring on you both. i hope you can help _ hope so. one more to spring on you both. i hope you can help us. - hope so. one more to spring on you both. i hope you can help us. this i both. i hope you can help us. this is a late addition. laura and wimbledon asks about a trip to prague. they were away for two and half days from october the 2nd until the fifth. how do you get tested far enough in advance when you are not away for that long?— away for that long? that's a very aood away for that long? that's a very good question- _ away for that long? that's a very good question. a _ away for that long? that's a very good question. a lot of - away for that long? that's a very good question. a lot of people i away for that long? that's a very i good question. a lot of people have struggled with that. some people have been testing and then not had enough time to go, you know, to come home before their testing, the results are in and it's very frustrating. i have to listen to your dates again, what were they? second to the 5th of october, such as before the change happens and they are straddling that change date. i they are straddling that change date. ., �* ~' ., they are straddling that change date. ~' ., g , they are straddling that change date. ~ ., g , ., ., date. i don't know. just do it and see what happens. _ date. i don't know. just do it and see what happens. to _ date. i don't know. just do it and see what happens. to be - date. i don't know. just do it and | see what happens. to be honest, when i came back a couple of weeks ago, my day to pcr test, the pcr test that i buy from the government recommended lists from their website, my day to tests came back on day six. so, you know, it's all very arbitrary. but that, see what
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happens, that's all i can say stop i all change between now and then. a couple of more weeks until we get to october the 4th, and then again before october half term, things could start to loosen up a little bit more and we will have more information about under 18. presenter of the big information about under18. presenter of the— information about under 18. presenter of th , ., , presenter of the big travel podcast and julia, presenter of the big travel podcast and julia. ceo _ presenter of the big travel podcast and julia, ceo of _ presenter of the big travel podcast and julia, ceo of the _ presenter of the big travel podcast and julia, ceo of the advantage i and julia, ceo of the advantage travel partnership, thank you for answering so many of those questions. thank you. the british teenage tennis star, emma raducanu, has revealed that on herfirst night back in the uk, she watched a replay of her victory in the us open final, and says her success is only "gradually sinking in". she's also been speaking about how her parents' helped guide her, to become a grand slam champion. natalie pirks has more, and her report contains flashing images. since she burst onto our screens at wimbledon last summer,
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life has been a whirlwind for emma raducanu. but now home, she's done the one thing she'd been desperate to do. last night i actuallyjust rewatched the final and tried to relive a couple of the moments and remember how it felt. so it is sinking in a little bit more. back in the arms of dad ian, she credited him, and mum renee, as the driving force behind her success. it's probably tough love, and at the time i'm probably not as grateful as i am in hindsight, but theyjust gave me a hug when i came back, really — nothing crazy, no big celebration. my mum made some really good home—made dumplings, but there was nothing crazy or over—the—top. just some reassurance and saying they're proud of me is enough. since last saturday she's not been out of the headlines, but this morning she faced her toughest questioning yet — from young fans. how did you manage the stress to be the last brit in the us open? i personally didn't feel any stress.
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i was just having a lot of fun out there and i think that's what helped because i wasn't thinking at all about anything that was out of my control. i'm just wondering, what will - you spend your prize money on? laughing: what will. .. i willjust leave that to my parents and my team, to be honest. i'm just focusing on what i love to do, which is competing. she hasn't even been shopping yet? further proof emma raducanu isn't your average british teenager. natalie pirks, bbc news. the headlines on bbc news... the international travel traffic light system has been simplified in england, the ember list will be scrapped and replaced by a single red list as part of an overhaul of the rules from the 4th of october. pcr tests will no longer be required for fully vaccinated travellers returning from england from any country not on the red list. the us admits that the drone steak against
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the suspected car bomber in the final days of the evacuation was a mistake, one which killed an aid worker along with nine members of his family including seven children. now on bbc news it's time for newswatch. hello and welcome to news watch. why was the bbc reporter who had been working in russia for 20 years expeued working in russia for 20 years expelled from the country? and what does sarah rainsford's departure mean for the future of the bbc�*s reporting in russia fourfirst, a week of comings and goings with borisjohnson's long—awaited boris johnson's long—awaited shake—up borisjohnson's long—awaited shake—up of his ministerial team taking place on wednesday. the news channel was following that frenzied excitement in westminster throughout the day. the prime minister is ray shuffling his top team of government ministers. in the past few minutes,
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the former trade secretary has been appointed to foreign secretary. the first woman to hold the role. at that distinction of being the first female secretary has repeated on the following morning today programme and elsewhere actually belongs to labour�*s margaret beckett, wendy where he acted like that stop next i am so sick of hearing bbc news referring to liz trust as the first e—mail foreign secretary, an absolute basic fact completely wrong. wednesday also saw a departure from bbc news, liz stepped away from the brackets up after presenting a programme for 20 years. herfinal show is marked by applause on her arrival, tributes from stars and a crowd of colleagues wearing masks. .
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