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interrogation of someone who shapes our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. my guess this week has a pretty daunting task. they have to persuade britain to persuade you that labour can be trusted with your money. rachel reeves, who was made shadow chancellor in may, is used to thinking a few moves ahead. she used to be under 1a uk chess champion. maybe she has a winning gambit. rachel reeves, welcome to political thinking. you want said that chess was the perfect preparation for politics. really7 it’s was the perfect preparation for politics. really?— was the perfect preparation for politics. really? it's about getting ou to politics. really? it's about getting you to look _ politics. really? it's about getting you to look ahead _ politics. really? it's about getting you to look ahead and _ politics. really? it's about getting you to look ahead and think - you to look ahead and think strategically, notjust drastically and what your opponent's next move will be. it's not poker! a gambit

giving something up 7 will be. it's not poker! a gambit giving something up ?_ will be. it's not poker! a gambit giving something up ? sacra fighting the little people. _ giving something up ? sacra fighting the little people. i— giving something up ? sacra fighting the little people. i didn't— giving something up ? sacra fighting the little people. i didn't play - giving something up ? sacra fighting the little people. i didn't play the . the little people. i didn't play the queen's gambit. _ the little people. i didn't play the queen's gambit. i'm _ the little people. i didn't play the queen's gambit. i'm a _ the little people. i didn't play the queen's gambit. i'm a very - the little people. i didn't play the queen's gambit. i'm a very basic| queen's gambit. i'm a very basic -la er. queen's gambit. i'm a very basic player- it's _ queen's gambit. i'm a very basic player- it's the — queen's gambit. i'm a very basic player. it's the defence - queen's gambit. i'm a very basic player. it's the defence you - queen's gambit. i'm a very basic player. it's the defence you do . queen's gambit. i'm a very basic player. it's the defence you do if| player. it's the defence you do if ou're player. it's the defence you do if you're playing _ player. it's the defence you do if you're playing black— player. it's the defence you do if you're playing black and - player. it's the defence you do if you're playing black and the - player. it's the defence you do if. you're playing black and the white player moves their kings upon forward two spaces, and the other player moves their queen's pond. i read about the silly and defence because i knew it was your favourite move, and i'm told it is turning defence very quickly into attack7 yes, and i wasn't attacking chess player. when you play in big

tournaments, you get two hours on the clock. i like that but i actually did better, i think, the clock. i like that but i actually did better, ithink, and speed chess and just going for it. where you inspired when you watched the queen's gambit on the telly? hell of a lot of male prejudice quiz 7 ? yes, chess is 7 yes, chess is incredibly ? yes, chess is incredibly male-dominated. - ? yes, chess is incredibly male-dominated. when ij ? yes, chess is incredibly- male-dominated. when i was ? yes, chess is incredibly— male-dominated. when i was playing male—dominated. when i was playing in the 80s and 90s, and it is still today. there are female chess players, the sisters. when i was probably about i! or 12, she became the best female player in history and the highest ever rated. i think

she was the youngest grand master ever. she was absolutely amazing. but there was a lot of prejudice because i remember one of the earliest games i played, i was in my primary school hall and it was a weekend chess tournament. i was drawn against another player and his friend said, "lucky for you, you've got a girl. you'll win easily." i was absolutely determined to win that game, and win i did. fine was absolutely determined to win that game, and win i did. one grand master once — that game, and win i did. one grand master once said _ that game, and win i did. one grand master once said the _ that game, and win i did. one grand master once said the object - that game, and win i did. one grand master once said the object is - that game, and win i did. one grand master once said the object is to - master once said the object is to crush the opponents. did you cross his mind? i crush the opponents. did you cross his mind? ., �* ., ., , his mind? i don't want to be competitive _ his mind? i don't want to be competitive with _ his mind? i don't want to be competitive with bobby - his mind? i don't want to be - competitive with bobby fischer. i wanted to show that girls are just as good as boys. but wanted to show that girls are 'ust as good as mi wanted to show that girls are 'ust as good as boys. wanted to show that girls are 'ust as aood as bo s. �* ., as good as boys. but home where you talk olitics as good as boys. but home where you talk politics a — as good as boys. but home where you talk politics a lot? _ as good as boys. but home where you talk politics a lot? where _ as good as boys. but home where you talk politics a lot? where is _ talk politics a lot? where is that at home when you would sit and have

tea or breakfast and talk politics? at primary school, about the same age, when i was eight. it was 1987 and a general election, and my friends were talking about who their mums and dads would vote for in the election. i thought i had no idea what they were talking about, and i felt really embarrassed. i went home and asked my dad, and he put on the six o'clock news and said that's who we vote for. i repeated this story in 2010 after i got elected, and i was on the phone with my dad, and he said he didn't think that story was quite true. he said if that's the case, and must be the first time in your life you've done anything i told you to do. but i remember it quite visited the. 50 told you to do. but i remember it quite visited the.— told you to do. but i remember it quite visited the. so they point to the telly and _ quite visited the. so they point to the telly and they _ quite visited the. so they point to the telly and they say _ quite visited the. so they point to the telly and they say that's - quite visited the. so they point to the telly and they say that's our l the telly and they say that's our quy' the telly and they say that's our guy, but was it more who they were?

your parents were both primary school teachers and would have looked to labour at that stage with mrs thatcher in power. was itjust a given? mrs thatcher in power. was it 'ust a civen? , , , ., given? they were never members of olitical given? they were never members of political parties. _ given? they were never members of political parties. that _ given? they were never members of political parties. that wasn't - political parties. that wasn't something we talked about hugely. but there was always that backdrop. my but there was always that backdrop. my mum was a special needs teacher. funding was cut so she 7 it meant the kids she had been support he wouldn't get it any more. you may remember she _ wouldn't get it any more. you may remember she was _ wouldn't get it any more. you may remember she was known - wouldn't get it any more. you may remember she was known as - wouldn't get it any more. you may| remember she was known as tbw, wouldn't get it any more. you may - remember she was known as tbw, that bloody woman. timer;r remember she was known as tbw, that bloody woman-— bloody woman. they weren't massively- — bloody woman. they weren't massively. they _ bloody woman. they weren't massively. they didn't - bloody woman. they weren't - massively. they didn't campaign or anything like that. we didn't go on demos or anything, but my dad's parents were salvationist and very committed to the salvation army. incredibly good and hard—working

people. everything they had, they gave back to the community. they were absolutely wonderful. for those values drilled _ were absolutely wonderful. for those values drilled into _ were absolutely wonderful. for those values drilled into you? _ were absolutely wonderful. for those values drilled into you? christian - values drilled into you? christian socialist values. _ values drilled into you? christian socialist values. i _ values drilled into you? christian socialist values. i was _ values drilled into you? christian socialist values. i was always - socialist values. i was always brought up, you should give something back, but you should work as hard as you can to make a contribution.— as hard as you can to make a contribution. ~ , ., . , ., contribution. mrs thatcher you say was not contribution. mrs thatcher you say was rrot liked _ contribution. mrs thatcher you say was not liked in _ contribution. mrs thatcher you say was not liked in your _ contribution. mrs thatcher you say was not liked in your house, - contribution. mrs thatcher you say was not liked in your house, but i contribution. mrs thatcher you say was not liked in your house, but it| was not liked in your house, but it wasn't that political. when you look back now, what do you think about it? are there things to learn from it or admired about it?! it? are there things to learn from it or admired about it?— it or admired about it? i was politico 's — it or admired about it? i was politico 's eyes _ it or admired about it? i was politico 's eyes because - it or admired about it? i was l politico 's eyes because there it or admired about it? i was - politico 's eyes because there were politico �*s eyes because there were so many cups — politicise. our library was turned into a classroom because there was more students than space, and there were never enough textbooks. i learned to the

conservative government we had didn't care enough about schools like mine and the kids i grew up with. and that's why ijoined the labour party. it's those values that still drives me. but labour party. it's those values that still drives me.— still drives me. but there are --eole still drives me. but there are people who _ still drives me. but there are people who say _ still drives me. but there are people who say we _ still drives me. but there are people who say we have - still drives me. but there are people who say we have to i still drives me. but there are - people who say we have to learn something. people who say we have to learn something-— people who say we have to learn somethin.. . ., ., ., something. what i would say, i wrote a book about — something. what i would say, i wrote a book about women _ something. what i would say, i wrote a book about women in _ something. what i would say, i wrote a book about women in politics, - something. what i would say, i wrote a book about women in politics, and l a book about women in politics, and obviously, i wrote back thatcher in that book. it made me think when i was growing up, i knew i didn't like her but i never doubted that a woman could lead and get a topjob, because there she was doing it. i didn't agree with her politics, but i think in some ways, she inspired women to believe that they could do it. ., �* ., women to believe that they could do it. you've got working-class values cominu it. you've got working-class values coming from _ it. you've got working-class values coming from your— it. you've got working-class values coming from your grandparents, i it. you've got working-class values. coming from your grandparents, but

it's a classic upbringing. you're now known 7 it's a classic upbringing. you're now known ?_ it's a classic upbringing. you're now known ? it's a classic upbringing. you're nowknown? , now known ? i've been a clip spy in the raducanu! _ now known ? i've been a clip spy in the raducanu! - _ now known ? i've been a clip spy in the raducanu! - emma _ now known ? i've been a clip spy in the raducanu! - emma raducanu. | now known ? i've been a clip spy in i the raducanu! - emma raducanu. my the raducanu! — emma raducanu. my daughter is a huge fan and she's gone through about half of the books. white back but it's a very middle—class upbringing. it was ordinary. my parents were good parents, they worked hard, they did a huge amount for us. the chess, music lessons, they were good parents who cared about our education and we were lucky in a lot

of ways. my secondary school, very few children stayed. even fewer went to university. there were loads of really bright girls who perhaps didn't get the opportunities that i had. and i wanted to spread that opportunity. again, iwas had. and i wanted to spread that opportunity. again, i was lucky. had. and i wanted to spread that opportunity. again, iwas lucky. my parents and the reason i carried on playing — i played the flute as well as my chest, and i carried on going to those lessons. we didn't have a huge amount of money but he wanted me to have the best opportunities in life. ~ . y ., me to have the best opportunities in life. . ,, life. which you did, because you went on to _ life. which you did, because you went on to oxford _ life. which you did, because you went on to oxford university. in| went on to oxford university. in many ways, this is a classic politician's upbringing. i went there too. this is what politicians and christian do. what i’m there too. this is what politicians and christian do. what— there too. this is what politicians and christian do. what i'm not them! we are worlds _ and christian do. what i'm not them!

we are worlds apart. _ and christian do. what i'm not them! we are worlds apart. if _ and christian do. what i'm not them! we are worlds apart. if you _ and christian do. what i'm not them! we are worlds apart. if you went - we are worlds apart. if you went to winchester colleges, i remember at my school, when i was in year 11, having a special assembly where the head teacher said two girls from their school applied for oxford at their school applied for oxford at the first time ever, and i remember their names. and i remember thinking then, maybe i can do that. and it never occurred to me before because no one from our school had ever done that before. d0 no one from our school had ever done that before-— that before. do they know you remember _ that before. do they know you remember them? _ that before. do they know you remember them? yes - that before. do they know you | remember them? yes because that before. do they know you - remember them? yes because one of them, the remember them? yes because one of them. the one — remember them? yes because one of them, the one who _ remember them? yes because one of them, the one who went _ remember them? yes because one of them, the one who went in, - remember them? yes because one of them, the one who went in, she - remember them? yes because one of them, the one who went in, she wentj them, the one who went in, she went to my college. i have never heard of them, and i applied to the one she went to. this in school had never expected 7 so i went there and i said to her, i'm here because of

you. said to her, i'm here because of ou. ., , said to her, i'm here because of ou. ., y ' ., you. you were very different from these tory _ you. you were very different from these tory politicians. _ you. you were very different from these tory politicians. rishi - these tory politicians. rishi sunak�*s background, middle—class, one parent adopted, parents and the public sector. do you see some still in their 80s there a connection there7 in their 80s there a connection there? �* , , there? there's 'ust huge differences. _ there? there'sjust huge differences. he - there? there'sjust huge differences. he went - there? there'sjust huge differences. he went to l there? there'sjust huge _ differences. he went to winchester college. they have the money to be able to send him there. we took different routes in life and i think we had very different upbringings. he made his money in the city and you could have, couldn't you7 he made his money in the city and you could have, couldn't you? you considered a job. i you could have, couldn't you? you considered a job.— you could have, couldn't you? you considered a job. considered a “oh. i was offered two “obs. considered a job. i was offered two jobs- goldman _ considered a job. i was offered two jobs. goldman sachs _ considered a job. i was offered two jobs. goldman sachs and _ considered a job. i was offered two jobs. goldman sachs and the - considered a job. i was offered two jobs. goldman sachs and the bank| considered a job. i was offered two l jobs. goldman sachs and the bank of england, and i chose the bank because i wanted to be an economist and i believed in public service. i

had a great time at the bank. my firstjob was at the japan desk, analysing the japanese economy. little did i know that there might be parallels with our own economy. you applied to goldman sachs? yes, and i you applied to goldman sachs? yes, and i applied — you applied to goldman sachs? yes, and i applied to _ you applied to goldman sachs? yes, and i applied to some _ you applied to goldman sachs? 1a: and i applied to some banks. i wanted to be an economist. did you sit there, thinking _ wanted to be an economist. did you sit there, thinking you _ wanted to be an economist. did you sit there, thinking you could - wanted to be an economist. did you sit there, thinking you could work. sit there, thinking you could work there? i sit there, thinking you could work there? ., sit there, thinking you could work there? . , ., , there? i had these two drugs in front of me _ there? i had these two drugs in front of me and _ there? i had these two drugs in front of me and i _ there? i had these two drugs in front of me and i made - there? i had these two drugs in front of me and i made a - there? i had these two drugs in| front of me and i made a choice. when you're at the bank you get excited, you work in the british embassy in washington, dc. it was post 9/11. it

embassy in washington, dc. it was ost 9/11. ., , ., embassy in washington, dc. it was ost 9/11. . , ., ., post 9/11. it was, and the reason wh this post 9/11. it was, and the reason why this was _ post 9/11. it was, and the reason why this was available _ post 9/11. it was, and the reason why this was available was - post 9/11. it was, and the reason i why this was available was because the british government and civil service wanted to up their capacity at the british embassy and lots of different ways. one of them was its economic analysis. obviously, there were huge problems in the global economy after 9/11 with recession and interest rates cut. so, i have the privilege of working at the embassy and trying to understand what was going on in the uk this — the us economy. i was 23. did what was going on in the uk this - the us economy. i was 23. did you meet the politicians _ the us economy. i was 23. did you meet the politicians coming - the us economy. i was 23. did you | meet the politicians coming across? gordon brown, in those days. who meet the politicians coming across? gordon brown, in those days. who was then the incoming _

gordon brown, in those days. who was then the incoming governor, _ gordon brown, in those days. who was then the incoming governor, and - gordon brown, in those days. who was then the incoming governor, and he . then the incoming governor, and he matt 7 the government of the fed in washington. we went into the white house and met the chief adviser to the president that we use our test books. ministers came over, but so did mervyn king. that was an amazing opportunity. did mervyn king. that was an amazing o- ortuni . ., �* did mervyn king. that was an amazing ouortuni . ., �* ., , did mervyn king. that was an amazing mortuni . ., �* ., , ., did mervyn king. that was an amazing ouortuni . ., �* ., , ., , opportunity. you've only had this “ob since opportunity. you've only had this job since may- — opportunity. you've only had this job since may. you _ opportunity. you've only had this job since may. you haven't - opportunity. you've only had this job since may. you haven't got i opportunity. you've only had this i job since may. you haven't got long in the introduction to persuade people. are you good at saying no? in thisjob, you have to, and every day, colleagues will come with really good ideas. everything i say we will do, we would fund it. that means you do have to say no to people because you've got to prioritise. what what our priorities be at an incoming labour government around schools, nhs and jobs of the

future, particularly in those green industries7 future, particularly in those green industries?— future, particularly in those green industries? ~ . �*, , , ., . industries? what's the best advice ou had. industries? what's the best advice you had- if— industries? what's the best advice you had. if there's _ industries? what's the best advice you had. if there's one _ industries? what's the best advice you had. if there's one thing - industries? what's the best advice you had. if there's one thing i i you had. if there's one thing i du. i spoke to all of them when i was appointed to thejob, and gordon, who i admire a lot, he said i have to have the discipline, but you've got to have something worth being disciplined for.— disciplined for. that's intriguing in a way keir — disciplined for. that's intriguing in a way keir starmer _ disciplined for. that's intriguing in a way keir starmer has - disciplined for. that's intriguing i in a way keir starmer has produced this essay. is task at this conference about reassurance, don't worry, we've learned our lesson7 or is it inspirational or both? worry, we've learned our lesson? or is it inspirational or both?— is it inspirational or both? we've not to do is it inspirational or both? we've got to do both. _ is it inspirational or both? we've got to do both, but _ is it inspirational or both? we've got to do both, but in _ is it inspirational or both? we've got to do both, but in my - is it inspirational or both? we've got to do both, but in my dog, l got to do both, but in my dog, and keir starmer said people have to

trust me with their money — myjob. being trustworthy and being honest and straight with people is really important to me, and showing i would treat taxpayers' money with respect. i remember my mum would keep all of her receipts, get her bank statement and she would take off the bank statement against her receipts. we weren't poor but we didn't have money to waste, and she was careful with her money. when you pay your taxes, i think the chancellor has to be equally careful with people's money. be equally careful with people's mone . ., be equally careful with people's mone. ., ., be equally careful with people's mone . ., ., ., ., ., ~ ., , money. you also have to work out why ou lost. money. you also have to work out why you lost- you — money. you also have to work out why you lost. you wrote _ money. you also have to work out why you lost. you wrote a _ money. you also have to work out why you lost. you wrote a book _ money. you also have to work out why you lost. you wrote a book in - money. you also have to work out why you lost. you wrote a book in 2010, i you lost. you wrote a book in 2010, why vote labour7 could you write a book about why labour laws7 when did you first realise you would lose? in you first realise you would lose? i“! labourjust keep losing. they've lost four elections in a row now. only three moments. when we look

labour has one back and we won big. why have we lost four collections7 people didn't trust us. they preferred the others to us. we have got to look at ourselves and learn those lessons and turn those things around. as harold well tended and as tony blair did. that is what i want to learn from. i tony blair did. that is what i want to learn from.— to learn from. i think you need to understand. _ to learn from. i think you need to understand, or _ to learn from. i think you need to understand, or we _ to learn from. i think you need to understand, or we need - to learn from. i think you need to understand, or we need to i to learn from. i think you need to i understand, or we need to understand what you think. when i had this conversation with ed miliband, he just produces book which was about go big. i put it to him that labour's problem was because you didn't listen to people and you didn't listen to people and you didn't like lots of people's attitudes, whether on immigration.

labour appeared veryjudgemental. labour appeared very judgemental. whether it's labour appeared veryjudgemental. whether it's on benefits, they appearjudgemental. it was a sense on brexit that labour did not like many people they needed to vote for them. �* ,, ., ., ., , them. and keir starmer totally recognises _ them. and keir starmer totally recognises this, _ them. and keir starmer totally recognises this, and _ them. and keir starmer totally recognises this, and that's i them. and keir starmer totally recognises this, and that's why them. and keir starmer totally i recognises this, and that's why he spent this summer going the length and breadth of the country meeting people who haven't voted for us. in some occasions for many years, and in some, the last election was the first time ever that they hadn't voted labour. we've got to listen and take on board what they're saying and to change because of the labour party is a party that was formed by working people to give a voice to working people, and we are utterly failing in that mission. there is an excrete — intriguing phrase in that. take back control. it's used by keir starmer in his

long essay. he thinks voters want that and have not had it. were you saying in some ways to people who voted leave, i know you did want to take back control, but you haven't but labour will help you?- take back control, but you haven't but labour will help you? around two thirds of the — but labour will help you? around two thirds of the national _ but labour will help you? around two thirds of the national average. i but labour will help you? around two thirds of the national average. a i thirds of the national average. a lot of them are in insecure work. a lot of them are in insecure work. a lot of them have to balance work with uncertain hours with childcare. people don't feel they have control in their lives. so, that's what people want in their lives a. you said some _ people want in their lives a. you said some things _ people want in their lives a. you said some things that would appeared to those that would get you into

trouble. you said at one point that you didn't want labour to be the party of the unemployed.- you didn't want labour to be the party of the unemployed. there was a ruestion party of the unemployed. there was a question that — party of the unemployed. there was a question that was _ party of the unemployed. there was a question that was put _ party of the unemployed. there was a question that was put to _ party of the unemployed. there was a question that was put to me - - question that was put to me — is that what labour is. they've got to be much broader than that with a party of working people. we created the welfare state to offer a safety net and support people when they are out of work. ~ , ., net and support people when they are out of work-— out of work. were you trying to say there's a danger— out of work. were you trying to say there's a danger that _ out of work. were you trying to say there's a danger that you _ out of work. were you trying to say there's a danger that you look i out of work. were you trying to say there's a danger that you look like | there's a danger that you look like there's a danger that you look like the party of welfare?— there's a danger that you look like the party of welfare? that's what i was bein: the party of welfare? that's what i was being accused _ the party of welfare? that's what i was being accused of— the party of welfare? that's what i was being accused of in _ the party of welfare? that's what i was being accused of in the i was being accused of in the interview, is that labour had become a very narrow party, and i wanted to say no. the way i express some things did cause her to people, and i never meant to do that. but the labour party is a party of working—class people and it did amazing — cause hurt to people. to

give working—class people those things they didn't have before. what's interesting, talking to you about these things when you are on the front bench under ed miliband is arguably, widejeremy corbyn left you on the back benches. there were people at that time who called you a red tory, suggesting you weren't welcome in the labour party. i red tory, suggesting you weren't welcome in the labour party. hind welcome in the labour party. i find that very difficult. _ welcome in the labour party. i find that very difficult. i _ welcome in the labour party. i find that very difficult. i find _ welcome in the labour party. i find that very difficult. i find it - welcome in the labour party. i find that very difficult. i find it very i that very difficult. i find it very difficult because ijoined the labour party when i was 17. i've beenin labour party when i was 17. i've been in the labour party for 25 years now. i love the party and its history, and when people said that to me, it's like, it's my family. don't tell me i don't belong here. i find that very hard. afterjeremy corbyn became leader, to people shouting that at me, i find it very

difficult. ., ., ., ~' shouting that at me, i find it very difficult. ., ., ., ., difficult. you look quite emotional 'ust difficult. you look quite emotional just remembering _ difficult. you look quite emotional just remembering that. _ difficult. you look quite emotional just remembering that. yeah, i i difficult. you look quite emotional i just remembering that. yeah, i found it very difficult _ just remembering that. yeah, i found it very difficult because _ just remembering that. yeah, i found it very difficult because i _ just remembering that. yeah, i found it very difficult because i love - just remembering that. yeah, i found it very difficult because i love the i it very difficult because i love the labour party and i've been delivering leaflets and knocking on doors for 25 years. people who in many cases have justjoined telling me that this wasn't my party. i me that this wasn't my party. i guess they would say you are part of the nand oh's five rising stars. luciano was hounded out of the party. you think i feel a bit emotional, imagine how she felt. her great uncle was a labour mp. she is from the party, from the labour party. do you want to from the party, from the labour party. do you wan— from the party, from the labour party. do you want to welcome her back? i party. do you want to welcome her back? i would _ party. do you want to welcome her back? i would love _ party. do you want to welcome her back? i would love to _ party. do you want to welcome her back? i would love to have - party. do you want to welcome her back? i would love to have lucy i party. do you want to welcome her back? i would love to have lucy at| back? i would love to have lucy at the party- — back? i would love to have lucy at the party- she _ back? i would love to have lucy at the party. she said _ back? i would love to have lucy at the party. she said still— back? i would love to have lucy at the party. she said still a friend i the party. she said still a friend of mine. whether she would want to

come back, you would have to ask her. d0 come back, you would have to ask her. , ., come back, you would have to ask her. ,, ~ ., i. come back, you would have to ask her. ~ ., ., her. do you know you got the labour party back? — her. do you know you got the labour party back? i — her. do you know you got the labour party back? i stayed _ her. do you know you got the labour party back? i stayed in _ her. do you know you got the labour party back? i stayed in the _ her. do you know you got the labour party back? i stayed in the labour i party back? i stayed in the labour party back? i stayed in the labour party because _ party back? i stayed in the labour party because i — party back? i stayed in the labour party because i believed - party back? i stayed in the labour party because i believed in i party back? i stayed in the labour party because i believed in some l party back? i stayed in the labour. party because i believed in some of the darkest hours, i think anti—semitism was our darkest hour, and i believed there was a way back for labour. some people made different choices, and i understand why they made them. luciano felt she was hounded out of the party. ifeel like we've turned a corner on that, and i'm proud of the small contribution i guess i have made to that. but i am really proud to be a labour mp and be in keir starmer�*s shadow cabinet. labour mp and be in keir starmer's shadow cabinet.— shadow cabinet. you've gotten labelled and _ shadow cabinet. you've gotten labelled and probably - shadow cabinet. you've gotten labelled and probably grown, l shadow cabinet. you've gotten i labelled and probably grown, you got labelled and probably grown, you got labelled by an accidental tweet from the editor of newsnight. just remind us. he

the editor of newsnight. just remind us. the editor of newsnight. just remind us, ., , the editor of newsnight. just remind us. ., , h, the editor of newsnight. just remind us. he said i was boring, snoring. it wasn't written _ us. he said i was boring, snoring. it wasn't written to _ us. he said i was boring, snoring. it wasn't written to you, - us. he said i was boring, snoring. it wasn't written to you, to i us. he said i was boring, snoring. it wasn't written to you, to be i it wasn't written to you, to be fair. ., �* , it wasn't written to you, to be fair. . �* , ,., it wasn't written to you, to be fair. . �* , ., it wasn't written to you, to be fair. ., �* , ., fair. that's true expat channel 4 is very welcome _ fair. that's true expat channel 4 is very welcome in — fair. that's true expat channel 4 is very welcome in leeds, _ fair. that's true expat channel 4 is very welcome in leeds, and i fair. that's true expat channel 4 is very welcome in leeds, and we i fair. that's true expat channel 4 is. very welcome in leeds, and we love them. that is a mistake, but for the grace of god, go i because could've us — all of us could have done that. a serious question. should a shadow chancellor being boring, snoring7 ever so slightly, ever so slightly dole7 i ever so slightly, ever so slightly dole? ~ ., ever so slightly, ever so slightly dole? ~' ., . ., , dole? i think there are certainly worse criticisms _ dole? i think there are certainly worse criticisms that _ dole? i think there are certainly worse criticisms that you i dole? i think there are certainly worse criticisms that you could | dole? i think there are certainly i worse criticisms that you could lay at the door of a chancellor. if worse criticisms that you could lay at the door of a chancellor.- at the door of a chancellor. if you could be a — at the door of a chancellor. if you could be a chess _ at the door of a chancellor. if you could be a chess piece, _ at the door of a chancellor. if you could be a chess piece, what i at the door of a chancellor. if you i could be a chess piece, what would it be? i could be a chess piece, what would it be? ~ �* , ,, could be a chess piece, what wouldj it be?_ the it be? i think i'd be the queen. the

most powerful _ it be? i think i'd be the queen. the most powerful piece _ it be? i think i'd be the queen. the most powerful piece on _ it be? i think i'd be the queen. the most powerful piece on the - it be? i think i'd be the queen. the most powerful piece on the board. | most powerful piece on the board. 1 want to be the queen to get the opponent and checkmate. if you're asking if i want to be the lever of the labour party, that is never something i have aspired to do. the job i want more than anything else is chancellor, i think i'm well—qualified. is chancellor, i think i'm well-qualified.— is chancellor, i think i'm well-qualified. is chancellor, i think i'm well-rualified. , well-qualified. takes off glasses. rachel reeves, _ well-qualified. takes off glasses. rachel reeves, thank _ well-qualified. takes off glasses. rachel reeves, thank you - well-qualified. takes off glasses. rachel reeves, thank you for i well-qualified. takes off glasses. i rachel reeves, thank you forjoining me on political thinking. rachel reeves, thank you for “oining me on political thinking.i me on political thinking. thank you, nick. if me on political thinking. thank you, nick- if chess _ me on political thinking. thank you, nick. if chess is _ me on political thinking. thank you, nick. if chess is like _ me on political thinking. thank you, nick. if chess is like politics, - me on political thinking. thank you, nick. if chess is like politics, the i nick. if chess is like politics, the truth is we're _ nick. if chess is like politics, the truth is we're more _ nick. if chess is like politics, the truth is we're more than - nick. if chess is like politics, the truth is we're more than halfwayj truth is we're more than halfway through it. labourfind themselves on the defensive. the tories have already claimed some crucial pieces. have the labour party got the moves up have the labour party got the moves up the sleeves and to take advantage? to seize victory from advantage7 to seize victory from defeat7 next week, they have their

conference. we might get the first answer to that. that's it from this edition of political thinking. thanks for watching. skies were rather gloomy today across the board, but we did see some sunshine for the second half of the day. we should see a greater chance of sunshine as the winds will be stronger. the first signs of some rain. at the moment, a really warm air mass. as this cold front spreads, introducing something a lot cooler and a lot more on terminal. this weekend, we've seen temperatures in the low 20s. by next

week, they'll be struggling to get into the mid—teens. through this evening and overnight, it will stay dry, warm and muggy. little bit drizzle over the hills. temperature is across the board very mild. slim chance of a shower moving across the far south. tomorrow, that will break up far south. tomorrow, that will break up the clouds so we should see more sunshine. this cold front arrives across the west for northern ireland, then into western scotland. here, temperatures in the mid to high teens. close 21—23 degrees. through sunday evening and overnight, the cold front slowly spreading its way eastwards. some strong and squally winds. here,

another warm and muggy night. further west, another warm and muggy night. furtherwest, it another warm and muggy night. further west, it will turn chillier with a few showers pushing in. the cold front continues to advance eastward during monday morning. low pressure digs in. some of the rain could be quite heavy across central and eastern areas. there could be some strong gusty winds. monday afternoon, much brighter with some sunshine behind the cold front. frequent and blustery in the northwest. noticeably cooler. it's very uncommon on and it stays 7 monger swells with strong winds as areas of low pressure move across the country. — longer spells.

j this is bbc news, the headlines. huawei executive, mung meng wanzhou, arrives back in china to a hero's welcome after more than two and a half years under house arrest in canada. after more than a thousand days of suffering, ifinally after more than a thousand days of suffering, i finally returned to the motherland. as soon as her freedom was assured, china released the two canadians it's held since days after her arrest. they arrived in calgary a few hours ago. also ahead — a last day of campaigning in germany, as the country decides who it wants to lead it in the post—angela merkel era. more queues at petrol stations across the uk — as the government prepares a temporary visa scheme to make it easierforforeign lorry drivers to work there.

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