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hello, you are watching bbc news. the headlines... a court in new york has found the american singer r kelly guilty of six trafficking and racketeering in connection with the abuse of underage girls, boys and women. the social democrat party says they have a clear mandate to govern after results from they election put it narrowly ahead. the leader says he plans to build a coalition with the greens and the free democrats. angela merkel see they have refused to concede defeat. officials in the uk are considering drastic measures as the country is headed by a fuel crisis, which has seen some petrol stations run dry. the government has announced it issuing temporary visas, bringing 5004 and truck drivers. those are the headlines.
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hello and a warm welcome to our look ahead at what the papers will prevent bringing us over the next few hours. with me, jenny, a journalist and times radio presenter and giles, former conservative party press cheap. walking to you both. a quick flick through what we have already got in. the frenzy for fuel, most of the front pages. dia leads with the latest development. the army will be called then if needed. and the fte looks at the impact on health care staff from the british
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medical association. a similar line for the telegraph. it says emergency measures could get the essential work is priority access and cap how much drivers can stand when they do fail out. brexit is to blame for these steel issues as the man most likely to be elected chancellor of germany, that's according to the guardian, which also has the latest from the conference in brighton. the matcher has a different view on the fuel problem saying it's pushing people back under public transport. a different story splashed over at the daily mail. it says the prime minister has now ordered a thorough inquiry into smart motorways following an investigation by the paper. the main picture shows the schoolteacher and the man charged in the last few hours with her murder,
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a 36 —year—old. right, let's start off. welcome to both nice to see you both again, jenny, can i kick off with you and the ft. you are buying frenzy puts health services at risk. this is a call from the b and eight today, and yet the government and even that petrol retail association says there's nothing to panic about. the petro retailer associations put out this joint statement saying that they think that the demand is going to ease now because everybody who is really desperate to get petrol will have got it by now. it's difficult to know whether or not that is the case, or if this is message management, given the panic that has been caused by this threat of fuel shortages. we know that there is no shortage of fuel. it's a shortage of drivers to deliver it to four courts. among many public bodies calling for a priority for key workers. there is a fear that if
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doctors, nurses, key staff cannot get to work, then there is going to be huge problems for the country. i think one of the things we have learned over the past week or so is the domino effect of these tiny things in the supply chain and how far they go. we found out about when there were issues with gas supplies, c02, that that affects our food packaging, ourability to c02, that that affects our food packaging, our ability to deliver all sorts of goods and services, and now we have best that hgb drivers, petrol, it may be affecting schools as we will come onto later. it might be affecting hospitals. i think the government would much rather that we all stopped panicking and we didn't have to prioritise health care records, but with pictures like we have seen on the front of the pages of all of the newspapers today and yesterday and now also tomorrow, it is unlikely that that panic is going to subside. fix, is unlikely that that panic is going to subside. �* . . ~ is unlikely that that panic is going to subside. �* ., . ~ ., , ., is unlikely that that panic is going to subside-— i i to subside. a lack of planning? i think one of _ to subside. a lack of planning? i think one of the _ to subside. a lack of planning? i think one of the most _ to subside. a lack of planning? i think one of the most made - to subside. a lack of planning? i l
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think one of the most made things the government could have said to the government could have said to the british— the government could have said to the british public was don't panic because, — the british public was don't panic because, of course, thatjust sparks widescale _ because, of course, thatjust sparks widescale panic going on in the system — widescale panic going on in the system. now, what they are banking on is the _ system. now, what they are banking on is the fact that you cannot really stockpile petrol in the way that you — really stockpile petrol in the way that you can with toilet paper and food like — that you can with toilet paper and food like he sought the start of the pandemic. in 2020. i think one of the key— pandemic. in 2020. i think one of the key problems as year i've seen a lot of— the key problems as year i've seen a lot of comparisons at the fuel crisis — lot of comparisons at the fuel crisis in — lot of comparisons at the fuel crisis in 2,000, which camino, at the time, — crisis in 2,000, which camino, at the time, it— crisis in 2,000, which camino, at the time, it was one of the biggest problems— the time, it was one of the biggest problems the labour government faced when you _ problems the labour government faced when you have lorry driver is blockading, you know, shops and places— blockading, you know, shops and pieces like — blockading, you know, shops and places like that. this time, this is a supply—side issue, lack of drivers. _ a supply—side issue, lack of drivers, and despite relaxing the rules— drivers, and despite relaxing the rules can — drivers, and despite relaxing the rules can i — drivers, and despite relaxing the rules can i don't think they are going — rules can i don't think they are going to — rules can i don't think they are going to get enough people into the system _ going to get enough people into the system quick enough, hand spiked with a _ system quick enough, hand spiked with a come unto you, the fact that they are _ with a come unto you, the fact that they are calling the army into try to avert— they are calling the army into try to avert this crisis. to they are calling the army into try to avert this crisis.— to avert this crisis. to check on the uk's crisis, _ to avert this crisis. to check on the uk's crisis, the _ to avert this crisis. to check on | the uk's crisis, the government to avert this crisis. to check on - the uk's crisis, the government said they didn't have any plans, now, a few hours later, they say perhaps
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they do. but it is notjust an hgb license, is that? that's the issue here. they are more skilled, they have to be better trained, because they are effectively dragging what could be some sort of mobile bomb, really, given what they pay load is. they are notjust unloading this petrol they are not 'ust unloading this etro , ., ., petrol where it needs to go, but they really _ petrol where it needs to go, but they really need _ petrol where it needs to go, but they really need to _ petrol where it needs to go, but they really need to know- petrol where it needs to go, but they really need to know what i they really need to know what they're doing. it's not something that can be rushed through the training of. there hasn't been very coherent messaging coming from the government, grant chaps said there will be no need for extra visas by saturday afternoon. the government had confirmed, but they're going to be 5,000 extra visas allowing hgb
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drivers to come into the country from overseas up until christmas eve. we know that as a drop in the ocean. we are lacking 100,000 hgb drivers. they are 25,000 hgb drivers from the eb — eu who left last year who haven't come back. there is an enormous amount that needs to be done to clear this backlog, and there are short—term solutions like allowing these visas, but we need long—term solutions as well in terms of making this job long—term solutions as well in terms of making thisjob more long—term solutions as well in terms of making this job more attractive and clearing the backlog of people trying to get these licenses. haw trying to get these licenses. how many foreign _ trying to get these licenses. how many foreign european drivers actually want to come over here just for a few months, complaining that the lack of roadside facilities here, not enough bathrooms. do we need to raise our game nationally? there is certainly a time lag in terms — there is certainly a time lag in terms of— there is certainly a time lag in terms of getting these foreign drivers— terms of getting these foreign drivers over here. yes, may be potentially _ drivers over here. yes, may be potentially some of these jobs which are incredibly important to the sunny— are incredibly important to the supply chain perhaps aren't recognised in terms of monetary value _ recognised in terms of monetary value and — recognised in terms of monetary value and indeed by society, it's something to me yes, probably we should _ something to me yes, probably we should look at. i have to say in
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terms — should look at. i have to say in terms of— should look at. i have to say in terms of the army being brought in and it— terms of the army being brought in and it is— terms of the army being brought in and it is a _ terms of the army being brought in and it is a short—term measure, but having _ and it is a short—term measure, but having said — and it is a short—term measure, but having said that, we have seen some worrying _ having said that, we have seen some worrying scenes at petrol stations where, you — worrying scenes at petrol stations where, you know, words being exchanged can you see people losing their temper exchanged can you see people losing theirtemper — temper, exchanged can you see people losing their temper — temper, this might bring— their temper — temper, this might bring a_ their temper — temper, this might bring a sense of order to what is going on— bring a sense of order to what is going on in— bring a sense of order to what is going on in the system, because it does feel— going on in the system, because it does feel like we are heading toward some _ does feel like we are heading toward some sort— does feel like we are heading toward some sort of — some sort of tipping point _ some sort of - some sort of tipping oint. �* , ., some sort of - some sort of tipping oint, �* , ., ., some sort of - some sort of tipping oint. �*, ., ., ., point. let's go to the yorkshire post, they _ point. let's go to the yorkshire post, they picked _ point. let's go to the yorkshire post, they picked up _ point. let's go to the yorkshire post, they picked up on - point. let's go to the yorkshire post, they picked up on a - point. let's go to the yorkshire post, they picked up on a story which i don't think i've seen certainly the ones i have seen. just the head teacher is warning that it could lead to a return to the online teaching of the pandemic, because, of course, i think people living in london forget that in rural communities camino, some parents are driving 10— 15, sometimes 20 miles to school. driving 10- 15, sometimes 20 miles to school. �* driving 10- 15, sometimes 20 miles to school. . , ., to school. and some teachers are drivin: to school. and some teachers are driving that _ to school. and some teachers are driving that distance _ to school. and some teachers are driving that distance to _ to school. and some teachers are driving that distance to get - to school. and some teachers are driving that distance to get to - driving that distance to get to their place of work, and i think i speakfor all parents their place of work, and i think i speak for all parents when i say please god, no, when i see this story, we have had enough of online teaching. our kids have had enough, teachers have had enough. we've got
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the sense of finally getting back to normal, and the idea that it might be something other than a pandemic thatis be something other than a pandemic that is keeping our children away from school as i think unthinkable for a lot of people, but nonetheless, it makes sense. i think he makes a very good point there. you cannot stockpile fuel. hopefully other people who are panicking will have full tanks by now and this will be eased, but if it comes to this, i think there will be a national outcry over at.— think there will be a national outcry over at. let's go on to the metro, because _ outcry over at. let's go on to the metro, because one _ outcry over at. let's go on to the metro, because one of— outcry over at. let's go on to the metro, because one of the - outcry over at. let's go on to the metro, because one of the plus i outcry over at. let's go on to the - metro, because one of the plus sides perhaps in terms of the environment according to the metro is that britain gets back on board. quite a sharp increase in public transport. yes, i was saying i think usage of the tube — yes, i was saying i think usage of the tube was at about two thirds of pre— pandemic levels. it shot up another— pre— pandemic levels. it shot up another 6%_ pre— pandemic levels. it shot up another 6% already you are seeing more _ another 6% already you are seeing more people getting on public transport, saying that a lot of people — transport, saying that a lot of people aren't so bothered because they can _ people aren't so bothered because they can obviously and players are more _ they can obviously and players are more relaxed about when you do and
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don't _ more relaxed about when you do and don't go _ more relaxed about when you do and don't go into— more relaxed about when you do and don't go into work. sol more relaxed about when you do and don't go into work. so i think also what _ don't go into work. so i think also what we _ don't go into work. so i think also what we saw during the pandemic was more people choosing to drive, because — more people choosing to drive, because they didn't want to get on public— because they didn't want to get on public transport for fear of catching co— so perhaps somewhat... for their— catching co— so perhaps somewhat... for their network which has clearly been _ for their network which has clearly been massively underutilised. again, those people — been massively underutilised. again, those people living _ been massively underutilised. again, those people living in _ been massively underutilised. again, those people living in rural— been massively underutilised. again, those people living in rural areas - those people living in rural areas perhaps bus services aren't as regular as they are in big cities. that is a problem, isn't a? it is, and those _ that is a problem, isn't a? it is, and those people _ that is a problem, isn't a? it is, and those people who _ that is a problem, isn't a? it is, and those people who cannot i that is a problem, isn't a? it 3 and those people who cannot get to work will have to work from home if they can. fortunately, as we have set, with schooling, there is some capacity to do that, but that's not going to be possible for everybody most of you know, it's putting a lot of people in a very difficult position. of people in a very difficult position-— of people in a very difficult osition. �* , , ., ., of people in a very difficult osition. �* , ., ., position. ok, i'm sure you want to talk about — position. ok, i'm sure you want to talk about this, _ position. ok, i'm sure you want to talk about this, the _ position. ok, i'm sure you want to talk about this, the labour - position. ok, i'm sure you want to talk about this, the labour market | talk about this, the labour market — labour party conference, the worst possible news for us or keira starmer today about the resignation
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of the shadow in play men's rights minister. what do you make of this? because labour mac left according to the telegraph seeking to undermine care starmer with s. do you think the timing was orchestrated? i care starmer with 5. do you think the timing was orchestrated? i think it is i think the timing was orchestrated? i think it is i think he's — the timing was orchestrated? i think it is i think he's doing _ the timing was orchestrated? i think it is i think he's doing this _ the timing was orchestrated? i think it is i think he's doing this big - it is i think he's doing this big speech— it is i think he's doing this big speech tomorrow, so he has once again— speech tomorrow, so he has once again hijacked the run up to that. we've _ again hijacked the run up to that. we've seen— again hijacked the run up to that. we've seen where they are meant to be setting _ we've seen where they are meant to be setting up the vision to the country. — be setting up the vision to the country, and it'sjust been totally hijacked by internal navel—gazing. it's hijacked by internal navel—gazing. it's not _ hijacked by internal navel—gazing. it's not that helpful, but i would say probably not surprised that the shadow— say probably not surprised that the shadow minister who had signed was the last— shadow minister who had signed was the last of— shadow minister who had signed was the last of the carbonates, so you wonder— the last of the carbonates, so you wonder if— the last of the carbonates, so you wonder if he was a most likely seen waiting _ wonder if he was a most likely seen waiting for— wonder if he was a most likely seen waiting for his moments to do it to cause _ waiting for his moments to do it to cause maximum damage. you have to say, i— cause maximum damage. you have to say, ithink— cause maximum damage. you have to say, i think for starmer, tomorrow is an— say, i think for starmer, tomorrow is an absolutely huge moment for him, _ is an absolutely huge moment for him. and — is an absolutely huge moment for him, and this is where this is his last chance _ him, and this is where this is his last chance for him where he can actually — last chance for him where he can actually define himself and set out to the _ actually define himself and set out to the country what he stands for,
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what the — to the country what he stands for, what the vision is for the labour party— what the vision is for the labour party so— what the vision is for the labour party so far, i think he has been found _ party so far, i think he has been found wanting and lacking. he's been sounding _ found wanting and lacking. he's been sounding like, as you know, there's only a _ sounding like, as you know, there's only a short — sounding like, as you know, there's only a short period of time to define — only a short period of time to define yourself, the tag for ed miliband came in the first 100 days and he _ miliband came in the first 100 days and he never shook it, so we will be looking for— and he never shook it, so we will be looking for some game changing moment— looking for some game changing moment tomorrow, will he do the speech? _ moment tomorrow, will he do the speech? i— moment tomorrow, will he do the speech? i have to say, for someone who is— speech? i have to say, for someone who is a _ speech? i have to say, for someone who is a barrister, he doesn't strike — who is a barrister, he doesn't strike me _ who is a barrister, he doesn't strike me as someone who is very light— strike me as someone who is very light on— strike me as someone who is very light on his — strike me as someone who is very light on his feet are particularly agile _ light on his feet are particularly agile. but let's see, maybe he can surprise _ agile. but let's see, maybe he can surprise people tomorrow and i would say what _ surprise people tomorrow and i would say what is _ surprise people tomorrow and i would say what is in his favour are that expectations aren't really that high — expectations aren't really that hiuh. ., , ., expectations aren't really that hiuh. ., ., ., high. for staying with you on that, all of those _ high. for staying with you on that, all of those party _ high. for staying with you on that, all of those party rules _ high. for staying with you on that, all of those party rules business, | all of those party rules business, if you are advising the labour party, which perhaps is in your natural bedfellow, but if you are advising them, which you have urged them to get that out of the way quickly, just to secure, halting the rise of the left again? i quickly, just to secure, halting the rise of the left again?— rise of the left again? i think it's a aood
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rise of the left again? i think it's a good route _ rise of the left again? i think it's a good route for— rise of the left again? i think it's a good route for them _ rise of the left again? i think it's a good route for them to - rise of the left again? i think it's a good route for them to have i rise of the left again? i think it's a good route for them to have in terms _ a good route for them to have in terms of— a good route for them to have in terms of trying to demonstrate and show— terms of trying to demonstrate and show the _ terms of trying to demonstrate and show the party has changed, and it's a kind _ show the party has changed, and it's a kind of— show the party has changed, and it's a kind of row— show the party has changed, and it's a kind of row they want to have. i don't _ a kind of row they want to have. i don't have — a kind of row they want to have. i don't have it _ a kind of row they want to have. i don't have it at a labour party conference committee to look introspective when the public are watching — introspective when the public are watching. have it at a different time _ watching. have it at a different time in — watching. have it at a different time in the air, and in party conferences when you get more airtime — conferences when you get more airtime on— conferences when you get more airtime on tv, you get more airtime on the _ airtime on tv, you get more airtime on the radio — airtime on tv, you get more airtime on the radio. where you set out your vision _ on the radio. where you set out your vision for— on the radio. where you set out your vision for the — on the radio. where you set out your vision for the country. it looks like _ vision for the country. it looks like they— vision for the country. it looks like they are a divided party and fighting — like they are a divided party and fighting amongst themselves, really, i fighting amongst themselves, really, ithink. _ fighting amongst themselves, really, ithink. it _ fighting amongst themselves, really, i think, it has shown that they've -ot i think, it has shown that they've got a _ i think, it has shown that they've got a hit — i think, it has shown that they've got a hit of— i think, it has shown that they've got a bit of a political to fear, which — got a bit of a political to fear, which is — got a bit of a political to fear, which is what we have seen over the past 18_ which is what we have seen over the past 18 months, so right row, run time _ past18 months, so right row, run time to— past 18 months, so right row, run time to have _ past 18 months, so right row, run time to have it coming that's enough. _ time to have it coming that's enough, timing is everything in politics — enough, timing is everything in olitics. . , enough, timing is everything in olitics. . ., , politics. what is your view of this resignation? _ politics. what is your view of this resignation? i _ politics. what is your view of this resignation? i think— politics. what is your view of this resignation? i think it _ politics. what is your view of this resignation? i think it is - resignation? i think it is absolutely _ resignation? i think it is absolutely a _ resignation? i think it is| absolutely a coordinated resignation? i think it is - absolutely a coordinated thing. if you look at the details in this daily telegraph story. it talks about how the news if it came out at five pm. he was immediately available to the media to get his comments. so there is no doubt it is designed to undermine kier starmer. it is a shame, no matter what you
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believe politically, it is a real shame we have a country where there is food not on the shelves, key was at petrol stations, gas companies going bust, you know, this government is crying out to be opposed by coherent opposition, and, you know, again and again commits the same old story from the labour party, stories of internal division. you know, today, the labour party would have wanted all the headlines to be about rachel reeves wanting to show that labour could be competent when it comes to the economy. united front going forward ahead of circular starmer�*s speech tomorrow, and we are talking about this. it's and we are talking about this. it's a real shame for the labour party and for the country as a whole. it is also raised the issue that he says he resigned i recommend that is the an hour minimum wage, which presumably a lot of labour supporters would have thought was a perfectly reasonable thing to him quite an electorally winning formula for those people who wear on very low wages.
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for those people who wear on very low wages-— for those people who wear on very lowwaaes. ., , ~ low wages. absolutely. and you can understand his _ low wages. absolutely. and you can understand his anger— low wages. absolutely. and you can understand his anger and _ low wages. absolutely. and you can | understand his anger and frustration particularly as one of the last carbonate members of the shadow cabinets, and he dashed his resignation letter, he accused kier starmer of failing to stand up first but socialist principles. each has a moment of maximum impact to make that point, and maybe this was not something that people were talking about before, and we are talking about before, and we are talking about it now, so... the about before, and we are talking about it now, so...— about it now, so... the public ob'ect about it now, so... the public object to _ about it now, so... the public object to another _ about it now, so... the public object to another strike - about it now, so... the public object to another strike and i about it now, so... the public i object to another strike and how important it is that for kier starmer to give this speech without this? i starmer to give this speech without this? ~' ,, ., , , this? i think here starmer is very aood at this? i think here starmer is very good at being — this? i think here starmer is very good at being forensic. _ this? i think here starmer is very good at being forensic. he - this? i think here starmer is very good at being forensic. he is - this? i think here starmer is very| good at being forensic. he is very good at being forensic. he is very good at being forensic. he is very good at critique. he's not necessarily very good at putting forward his own vision and looking relaxed while doing so. i think the publicjust want to relaxed while doing so. i think the public just want to hear some strong messaging about what he stands firm rather than what he is against, whether or not he does that with or without notes, i don't personally think it matters very much, but i
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think it matters very much, but i think he needs to not be

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