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this is bbc news, the headlines. the us senate has voted to avert a government shutdown that would have affected hundreds of thousands of federal workers. the vote on spending came after a deal between the republicans and the democrats with just hours left to avoid the crisis. it will now go the house of representatives. hundreds of police officers are trying to restore order inside a prison in ecuador where clashes between rival gangs has left at least a hundred and sixteen people dead. it's the worst prison violence in the country's history. the police officer who kidnapped, raped and murdered londoner sarah everard has been sentenced to life in prison. he used covid lockdown rules as a pretence to arrest and handcuff her. before driving her to a destination where he raped and murdered her. and 11 days after it first erupted lava continues to pour into the sea on la palma 25 acres so far
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triggering plumes of vapour and gas. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are rachel cunliffe, deputy online editor at the new statesman and kate proctor, political editor at politicshome and the house magazine. required reading for all those interested in parliamentary affairs. tomorrow's front pages, starting with... one story dominates the front page. it's the lead in the metro the life sentence for wayne couzens for the kidnap, rape and murder of sarah everard. the front page has a picture of the met commissioner dame cressida dick, who the paper, says is facing calls to resign. the daily telegraph's headline says that the pressure bond of trust between the police and
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public has been damaged because of the high profile case. the guardian also has a picture of the met commissioner and it features her admission that the force has been shamed by the murder. so let's begin... the mirror there must never be a repeat of an incident like this one again. and the times begin that five doctor metropolitan police officers are currently under investigation under possession of offensive material. shall we begin, we are going to talk largely and i think quite rightly by the death of sarah everard in this review. rachel, do you want to kick us off at the metro frontpage? the whole life care which has been handed down to the killer. well, it's very difficult to know where to begin when discussing the story but the metro focuses on the whole life term and the unusualness of that term. we are used to hearing
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murderers given life sentence that usually what a life sentence means is a certain number of years in prison and a lifetime spent on parole under supervision, essentially. it's very rare for somebody to be sentenced to whole life in prison which is what happened in this case. they are a key set of criteria for making that decision and the judge key set of criteria for making that decision and thejudge in his guidelines today said the reason for handing it down but that was because couzens used his position as a police officer and he put that on the same level as terrorism. somebody who murders emperors suit of a political or ideological cause. he also pointed out the unique position that the police are in and the powers that they hold and the fundamental bond of trust that they are meant to have with the public and how that has been broken as a result of this tragic and horrific murder. and in the past one of the
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reasons for handing down a whole life sentence one of the reasons included is murder of a police officer. this is the first time that murder by a police officer who used his position as a police officer in order to commit that murder has led to that sentence and that is quite striking. in to that sentence and that is quite strikinu. , ., ., , a to that sentence and that is quite strikinu. , ., ., , , striking. in i 'ust want to pick up on that striking. in i just want to pick up on that point — striking. in i just want to pick up on that point that _ striking. in i just want to pick up on that point that rachel was i striking. in i just want to pick up - on that point that rachel was making about... of the whole life. there is about... of the whole life. there is a problem with language and a lot of the way we sentence criminals. we use the term life means life. and we talk about the northern echo which i was going to talk about as well which are photographs and illustrates at least 80 women sense of sarah everard was attacked and killed six months ago. 80 women
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alleged to have died at the hands of men. when will this end was that it could easily be a national newspaper headline never original. the point of us can pick up, the decision the measures taken, they have an artist impression of the scene at the dock of the convicted man. they've got a relatively small picture of the victim and then they've got sarah everard and then quite a large picture of wayne couzens. a lot of people have debated the amount of focus that there is on the perpetrator and offences of the sky. do you think it's something the muse two newspapers are thinking about these days? we two newspapers are thinking about these da s? �* ., ., two newspapers are thinking about these days?— these days? i've had to 'ust stare at his face — these days? i've had to 'ust stare at his face whilst _ these days? i've had to 'ust stare at his face whilst i'm _ these days? i've had to just stare at his face whilst i'm waiting - these days? i've had to just stare at his face whilst i'm waiting to l at his face whilst i'm waiting to take _ at his face whilst i'm waiting to take my— at his face whilst i'm waiting to take my turn to speak and i found it quite _ take my turn to speak and i found it quite upsetting. as will go through the papers this evening he appears a lot. the papers this evening he appears a lot and _ the papers this evening he appears a lot and i_ the papers this evening he appears a lot and i do— the papers this evening he appears a lot. and i do think it is a question for newspapers on how to cover such
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heinous _ for newspapers on how to cover such heinous and — for newspapers on how to cover such heinous and discussing crimes like this _ heinous and discussing crimes like this i_ heinous and discussing crimes like this. i would heinous and discussing crimes like this. iwould much heinous and discussing crimes like this. i would much prefer that the papers _ this. i would much prefer that the papers but — this. i would much prefer that the papers but a much bigger photograph of sarah _ papers but a much bigger photograph of sarah on _ papers but a much bigger photograph of sarah on the front we actually didnt— of sarah on the front we actually didn't see — of sarah on the front we actually didn't see him all. you do have to be careful— didn't see him all. you do have to be careful as a newspaper to talk about, _ be careful as a newspaper to talk about, why is is photograph bigger than sarah's photograph was that i would _ than sarah's photograph was that i would much prefer it if editors right— would much prefer it if editors right across the board this evening had chosen some different ways of presenting the story. do had chosen some different ways of presenting the story.— had chosen some different ways of presenting the story. do you want to cive our presenting the story. do you want to give your thoughts _ presenting the story. do you want to give your thoughts on _ presenting the story. do you want to give your thoughts on that _ presenting the story. do you want to give your thoughts on that as - give your thoughts on that as well rachel? it's a real debate. i remember in new zealand the new zealand prime minister after the mosque bombings it made the decision that she would never referred again by name to the perpetrator. and certainly as a result of that seem to drive eight media can sense consensus not to show his picture. i wonder if a bit of an issue about the casualness which we use, love these big pictures of frightening people. the debate is about whether
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it's almost a voyeuristic way of reporting what are really violent crimes. i reporting what are really violent crimes. ., reporting what are really violent crimes. . ., , ., ., crimes. i am not sure if we do love them, as — crimes. i am not sure if we do love them. as you _ crimes. i am not sure if we do love them. as you say- _ crimes. i am not sure if we do love them, as you say. sorry, _ crimes. i am not sure if we do love them, as you say. sorry, i- crimes. i am not sure if we do love | them, as you say. sorry, i apologise ifi used them, as you say. sorry, i apologise if i used inappropriate _ them, as you say. sorry, i apologise ifi used inappropriate language. - them, as you say. sorry, i apologise ifi used inappropriate language. i i if i used inappropriate language. i didn't mean it... i also find that particular picture distressing but in the contact that we are discussing it i find the court drawings eight much more moved way of illustrating what's been going on that allows you to take stock of the court and the legal procedure. i do agree that the focus should entirely beyond her and there is a risk of glamorising this particular case for that because we do know that copycat murders are a thing. particularly with terrorism as i was saying before, this is a akin to terrorism or thejudge made that before, this is a akin to terrorism or the judge made that comparison. the other person you are seeing a lot on the front pages a photo of presidentjack the president jack the commissioner which presidentjack the commissioner which maybe we will talk about and her role as their focus is shifted
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onto her. newspaper editors covered some slick neck certainly anyone to put together a front page should be thinking about. just put together a front page should be thinking about.— thinking about. just that picture on the front of— thinking about. just that picture on the front of the _ thinking about. just that picture on the front of the one _ thinking about. just that picture on the front of the one in _ thinking about. just that picture on the front of the one in light - thinking about. just that picture on the front of the one in light of- the front of the one in light of that. ijust wanted to talk the front of the one in light of that. i just wanted to talk the other question about it is the contrast they with the metro with the one. with the image that cressida dick is under. were you surprised having known harriet harman should come out so explicitly and call for cressida dick's resignation. it took me by surprise when i heard her speak at lunchtime. it was a surprise. i haven't appreciated the strength of feeling. the reason why people say that cressida — the reason why people say that cressida dick needs to resign over the handling of this case is under two questions about whether there were missed opportunities within the mat to— were missed opportunities within the mat to actually stop wayne couzens. we already _ mat to actually stop wayne couzens. we already know that had been
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reported — we already know that had been reported for behaviour before hand and the _ reported for behaviour before hand and the second thing is the policing strategy— and the second thing is the policing strategy which actually took place at a vigil — strategy which actually took place at a vigil that will lots of women attended — at a vigil that will lots of women attended for the death of sarah everard — attended for the death of sarah everard where there was a criticism that policing was very heavy— handed. i'm that policing was very heavy— handed. in actually— that policing was very heavy— handed. i'm actually quite surprised at the speed _ i'm actually quite surprised at the speed at— i'm actually quite surprised at the speed at which the story has pivoted to focus— speed at which the story has pivoted to focus on— speed at which the story has pivoted to focus on cressida dick. you've also _ to focus on cressida dick. you've also got — to focus on cressida dick. you've also got priti patel saying there are serious questions to answer but at the _ are serious questions to answer but at the same — are serious questions to answer but at the same time cressida dick has had a _ at the same time cressida dick has had a time — at the same time cressida dick has had a time as commissioner of the mat extended for two years. so i assume — mat extended for two years. so i assume there will have to be a huge inquiry— assume there will have to be a huge inquiry into— assume there will have to be a huge inquiry into this. i can't quite tell, — inquiry into this. i can't quite tell, i— inquiry into this. i can't quite tell, i kick— inquiry into this. i can't quite tell, i kick get the temperature right— tell, i kick get the temperature right now— tell, i kick get the temperature right now on whether cressida dick will stand — right now on whether cressida dick will stand down. i don't think she will _ will stand down. i don't think she will but— will stand down. i don't think she will. but there is so much pressure did not— will. but there is so much pressure did not pressuring her into the handling — did not pressuring her into the handling of this case. we did not pressuring her into the handling of this case.- did not pressuring her into the handling of this case. we will only know when _ handling of this case. we will only know when the _ handling of this case. we will only know when the events _ handling of this case. we will only know when the events unfold - handling of this case. we will only know when the events unfold but| handling of this case. we will onlyl know when the events unfold but it is interesting that the sense that
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appears to emerge. we heard of one of her senior officer speaking today that the persistent sense that it was not treated with sufficient seriousness even in a force like the mat and its unannounced tonight to mps saying it is set out a series of measures to respond, a new strategy. it says it's got a new strategy for protecting women and girls against violence that would apply across the board. it acknowledges that what the killer did was part of a much bigger and troubling picture. it also says the betting failings, that's one of the betting failings, that's one of the checks that may not have been undertaking correctly. but the shadow minister told us this evening there are definite gaps in their explanations, we will be pushing ministers in the home secretary to have a look at what's going on in the vetting process was up itjust seems astonishing to me that even under investigation to the weeks prior to sarah everard that he was not suspended. let's move on to the telegraph. this question of trust.
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kate, do you want to start on this on? precious bond of trust has been damaged for again a big picture of cressida dick. the difficult question that nobody can answer at the stage is just how difficult it is going to make it for other women to feel confidence in their exchanges and interactions with male police officers. this exchanges and interactions with male police officers— police officers. this is why it's very difficult. _ police officers. this is why it's very difficult. because - police officers. this is why it's very difficult. because of- police officers. this is why it's very difficult. because of a - very difficult. because of a journalist but also am a human being. i journalist but also am a human beinu. ~ journalist but also am a human beinu. ,, ., , journalist but also am a human beinu. ,, . , ., ., ., being. i think that is a woman if i was to be — being. i think that is a woman if i was to be stopped _ being. i think that is a woman if i was to be stopped by the - being. i think that is a woman if i was to be stopped by the police i was to be stopped by the police have to be was to be stopped by the police have to he very _ was to be stopped by the police have to be very honest, loads of questions would go through my mind now. questions would go through my mind now i_ questions would go through my mind now. i would feel very, concerned and obviously the police are there to protect — and obviously the police are there to protect us and this is the most extreme — to protect us and this is the most extreme example, etc unprecedented. we did _ extreme example, etc unprecedented. we did not— extreme example, etc unprecedented. we did not have a crime like this before — we did not have a crime like this before i— we did not have a crime like this before. i think is a woman you feel that you _ before. i think is a woman you feel that you want to put all your faith in the _ that you want to put all your faith in the police but you... i have to
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be honest. — in the police but you... i have to be honest, it's been shaken a little bit be honest, it's been shaken a little hit by— be honest, it's been shaken a little bit by theirs. and cressida dick said that — bit by theirs. and cressida dick said that she is aware that couzens has eroded — said that she is aware that couzens has eroded the confidence of the two have in— has eroded the confidence of the two have in the _ has eroded the confidence of the two have in the police and how they resort _ have in the police and how they resort that is going to be a hughes project _ resort that is going to be a hughes project for— resort that is going to be a hughes project for the mets going forward over the _ project for the mets going forward over the next few years. it's going to he _ over the next few years. it's going to he a _ over the next few years. it's going to be a really huge challenge. we heard _ to be a really huge challenge. we heard a _ to be a really huge challenge. we heard a hit— to be a really huge challenge. we heard a bit today that the culture of, heard a bit today that the culture of. female — heard a bit today that the culture of, female colleagues within the police _ of, female colleagues within the police not always feeling like they could _ police not always feeling like they could talk about their male colleagues they felt their behaviour was belittled. i hope we see a cultural— was belittled. i hope we see a cultural shift, i hope that female police _ cultural shift, i hope that female police officers that have concerns about _ police officers that have concerns about male college will come forward if about male college will come forward it they— about male college will come forward if they feel that something isn't right _ if they feel that something isn't ri . ht. �* , ., ., right. it's quite a detailed document _ right. it's quite a detailed document on _ right. it's quite a detailed document on that. - right. it's quite a detailed document on that. want. right. it's quite a detailed. document on that. want to right. it's quite a detailed - document on that. want to do with what the mat is saying tonight about anyone who is worried. do you want to just come back to us on that rachel? ., ~ to just come back to us on that rachel? . ,, ., rachel? yeah, i think that the
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ma'ori rachel? yeah, i think that the majority of — rachel? yeah, i think that the majority of women, _ rachel? yeah, i think that the majority of women, i - rachel? yeah, i think that the majority of women, i don't - rachel? yeah, i think that the l majority of women, i don't want to speakfor all women but majority of women, i don't want to speak for all women but certainly it's difficult to read the details of this case and put yourself in the of this case and put yourself in the of what would i do if i was pulling back stopped a police officer it's also important to recognise that ethnic minorities felt this way in dealings with the police for many, many decades now. and idea that the police are somebody that you can trust and are represent safety and security is not something that everyone in this country felt even before this case. but i think now that this has happened in such an egregious example of an abuse of police power and also now we are getting details of how the force is itself perpetuates a culture where this was allowed to happen, that's the details that kate mentioned of female police officers not calling out the behaviour of their male colleagues because they were afraid that if they needed back up those male colleagues then perhaps wouldn't come to their aid. that makes it very difficult to trust the police and also very difficult to
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know how that trust can be rebuilt going forward. know how that trust can be rebuilt going forward-— know how that trust can be rebuilt going forward. sobering thoughts. let me tell you — going forward. sobering thoughts. let me tell you what _ going forward. sobering thoughts. let me tell you what the _ going forward. sobering thoughts. let me tell you what the police - going forward. sobering thoughts. | let me tell you what the police are saying in light of that very direct question. but you people do? this is the advice at the met is issued tonight. if you do not believe the officer is who they say they are for whatever reason then i would say you must seek assistance, shout out to a passer—by, run into a house, knocking door, wave down a bus or if you are in a position to do so call 999 and ask to be put through to somebody who can check and confirm that this is a verifiable and wanted interaction with a police officer. difficult things to do in some circumstances. and clearly that's the kind of the best advice they could offer. i suppose it's no substitute for confidence. you're saying you should do this and you should do that is almost in a sense
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acknowledging they might have lost confidence. i acknowledging they might have lost confidence. ~ , ., acknowledging they might have lost confidence. ~' , ., ., confidence. i think they have to acknowledge — confidence. i think they have to acknowledge that _ confidence. i think they have to acknowledge that public - confidence. i think they have to acknowledge that public has . confidence. i think they have to l acknowledge that public has lost confidence, certainly women. etiquette worth pointing out that the advice given to women before this case was if you feel unsafe, if you're being followed, if a man is harassing you seek out a police officer they would help you. in fact the outpouring of rage and anger and hurt in the immediate aftermath of sarah everard death when women were sharing their story not of being murdered but of the everyday fear and harassment that they face. boris johnson's response to that was to say we will put undercover police officers in nightclub to help make women fade to national say. i rememberfeeling women fade to national say. i remember feeling just women fade to national say. i rememberfeeling just so women fade to national say. i remember feeling just so insulted that a male politician with think that a male politician with think that that was a solution and that would help make me feel safe. this ma be would help make me feel safe. this may be part — would help make me feel safe. this may be part of _ would help make me feel safe. this may be part of the concern about public figures being tone deaf because this is been issued by the
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