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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are sonia sodha who's chief leader writer for the observer and sam lister who's the deputy political editor at the daily express. the deputy political editor tomorrow's front pages, starting with... the metro leads on a report by mps that says the government's early response to the pandemic was �*one of the most important public health failures the uk has ever experienced'. the telegraph reports that further tax rises will be needed the landmark inquiry that found the ministers and scientist for the fatalistic approach that exacerbated the death toll. the daily mail found many of care home residence died needlessly in the pandemic and the
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elderly were just an afterthought. the daily mirror writes that mps found thousands of lives could have been saved had borisjohnson had just decided to lock down days earlier. taxes we need to be raised further to tackle the social care crisis which was nice but boris johnson is not enough, according to the institute for fiscal studies. the times writes that borisjohnson was back in the multimillion pound bailout of industries struggling with hike gas prices. the chancellor lost the battle with the business secretary. let's plunge straight and sam, do you want to kick off of the guardian forests? uk feelings among the worst in history? this guardian forests? uk feelings among the worst in history?— the worst in history? this is the long-awaited — the worst in history? this is the long-awaited committee - the worst in history? this is the long-awaited committee and i the worst in history? this is the - long-awaited committee and science long—awaited committee and science and technology committee and the health committee and greg clark and jeremy hunt have been conducting an inquiry into the governments
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handling of the covid—i9 crisis and it is not the official inquiry for next spring or has been ongoing over recent months. a lot of expert witnesses and the findings are quite unsurprising to anyone who has been following the pandemic which is really quite damning and you can see that with the fact that many different papers of decided to go a slightly different angles and that's because there's so much in this report for them to sink their teeth into. and i think reading a news report that the have headline findings, it's surprising but the slowness with which the government acted and so, with lockdown, the report says if it had locked down a week earlier back in march 2020, the death toll in the first wave would have been half a 40,000 to 20,000. so that is absolutely huge. he looks at the failings of care homes and
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the fact that more people died in care homes the necessary and looking at the huge failings in the track and trace scheme and testing. £37,000,000,000 was spent on that and get in the early weeks of the pandemic, the country was flying blind and there wasn't much data to be basing policy decisions on. the public will understand that this was a very difficult crisis and it is unprecedented but the report is very clear that there are really bad policy decisions taken that ended up costing tens of thousands of lives in this country. there is a question about the extent with which this will be felt politically or the extent to which it will take some time for this to sink and in the official inquiry to happen as well. the conclusions are really damning. we've still got the official inquiry even to get under way. but this is
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from committees, all party committees and they are chaired by two conservative mps. in former business secretary fred clark and strongly worded. and people haven't had to barter over this like they normally do with these reports that, critical of governments. would you make of it? it critical of governments. would you make of it?— make of it? it is completely uncompromising _ make of it? it is completely uncompromising as - make of it? it is completely uncompromising as you - make of it? it is completely i uncompromising as you would make of it? it is completely - uncompromising as you would expect from two influential powerful groups and they— from two influential powerful groups and they are party committees. i think_ and they are party committees. i think what— and they are party committees. i think what struck me is that obviously, essentially, boris johnson _ obviously, essentially, boris johnson is responsible for the decisions _ johnson is responsible for the decisions taken by government ministers. but this report also binds— ministers. but this report also binds and _ ministers. but this report also binds and the scientific experts into the — binds and the scientific experts into the failures in the response of
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the pandemic. talking groupthink among _ the pandemic. talking groupthink among experts and the failure to properly— among experts and the failure to properly model for a pandemic that was not _ properly model for a pandemic that was not based on flow, how the model included _ was not based on flow, how the model included predictions of deaths of only included predictions of deaths of oniy100 — included predictions of deaths of only 100 if there was a pandemic, it didn'i_ only 100 if there was a pandemic, it didn't really— only 100 if there was a pandemic, it didn't really look at the style or ebola _ didn't really look at the style or ebola style breakouts of illness and wheiher— ebola style breakouts of illness and whether or not those considered to be whether or not those considered to he only— whether or not those considered to be only happening somewhere asia. there _ be only happening somewhere asia. there are _ be only happening somewhere asia. there are failings across the board here _ there are failings across the board here but — there are failings across the board here. but many people understand that if— here. but many people understand that if you — here. but many people understand that if you are in government or an expert— that if you are in government or an expert and — that if you are in government or an expert and time of crisis, people understand that you are making decisions — understand that you are making decisions with no reference to anything — decisions with no reference to anything that has come before. it is such a _ anything that has come before. it is such a huge — anything that has come before. it is such a huge decision to shut down the economy and take peoples
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livelihoods away and force people to their homes, to tell people not to see their— their homes, to tell people not to see their families and loved ones and that— see their families and loved ones and that is— see their families and loved ones and that is not an easy decision to make _ and that is not an easy decision to make and — and that is not an easy decision to make and people will bear that in mind _ make and people will bear that in mind in— make and people will bear that in mind in terms of findings. how consistent _ mind in terms of findings. how consistent this _ mind in terms of findings. how consistent this is _ mind in terms of findings. how consistent this is with - mind in terms of findings. firm consistent this is with the inquiry into intelligence and the run up to invasion of iraq for the advice they've been given because it reinforced what they wanted to do anyway and then you get the problem of are the official advises giving you the advice that the thing you want to hear then it becomes a cycle thatis want to hear then it becomes a cycle that is hard to break out of. what he think of the daily melt take on it which re— ignites the argument before he resigned his secretary that met hancock was trying so anxiously to challenge?-
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that met hancock was trying so anxiously to challenge? there is so much to go — anxiously to challenge? there is so much to go on _ anxiously to challenge? there is so much to go on and _ anxiously to challenge? there is so much to go on and this _ anxiously to challenge? there is so much to go on and this trend - anxiously to challenge? there is so| much to go on and this trend report and i think the government itself has admitted that mistakes were made during the pandemic and it's clear to see from what happened in care homes and actually to say north of the border in scotland, also when a similar issue in care homes there. slightly different way of responding to the _ slightly different way of responding to the pandemic and care homes and it has— to the pandemic and care homes and it has been— to the pandemic and care homes and it has been issued. i think lessons must _ it has been issued. i think lessons must he _ it has been issued. i think lessons must be learned which, this is the problem. — must be learned which, this is the problem, isn't it because my people are making — problem, isn't it because my people are making decisions with the best evidence _ are making decisions with the best evidence that they had at the time i remember— evidence that they had at the time i remember the mantra from boris johnson — remember the mantra from boris johnson and his ministers. guided by the science — johnson and his ministers. guided by the science. but, it is not perfect process _ the science. but, it is not perfect process and _ the science. but, it is not perfect process and obviously, mistakes are made _ process and obviously, mistakes are made and _ process and obviously, mistakes are made and they have admitted that in
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recent— made and they have admitted that in recent months.— made and they have admitted that in recent months. what do you make on the elderly who _ recent months. what do you make on the elderly who died _ recent months. what do you make on the elderly who died as _ recent months. what do you make on the elderly who died as a _ recent months. what do you make on the elderly who died as a result - recent months. what do you make on the elderly who died as a result of. the elderly who died as a result of some of the decisions that were made in particular? in terms of discharging patients from hospitals into care homes or other sheltered accommodation for the elderly when they brought the infection with them? is they brought the infection with them? , , ., ., , they brought the infection with them? , , . ., , _ them? is 'ust an awful thing whereby so man them? isjust an awful thing whereby so many people _ them? isjust an awful thing whereby so many people were _ them? isjust an awful thing whereby so many people were trying - them? isjust an awful thing whereby so many people were trying to - them? isjust an awful thing whereby so many people were trying to free i so many people were trying to free up so many people were trying to free up space in they were discharging, but we did not have enough testing at the time. end of the people moving into care homes, they're either carrying the disease themselves and that is how we know now that that is out spreads to some of the most vulnerable people who are living in care homes and care homes became breeding grounds and so, therejust homes became breeding grounds and so, there just wasn't a plan and
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there were really bet mistakes made by think another thing is the government trying to almost lie about it and say, we put a protective ring around care homes and really try to mislead the public rather than face up to the mistakes that were made and lots of people were not able to see their loved ones were in care homes because the restrictions and lost loved ones without seeing them and i think there's still a lot of blatant anger and grief about that out there in the country. so, i do think this is not something that is just going to go in from the government. i think the other thing i would say if they think that possibly being a bit too generous to the government will understand that these are unprecedented circumstances for the report is really clear that the planning was not in place that the decision—making was not good enough i think another thing that is significant is that important mistakes made early on in march like
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locking down that week too late that cost tens of thousands of deaths but also these are mystics the government did not learn from and he committed the same mistakes again. he delayed doing this after advice urged them to do it we know the second wave was a result of that and the cost tens of thousands of deaths. you know for example when it came to limiting international travel, for example, to limit the spread of the delta variant, again the government after three weeks to wake their — acted three weeks too late there. which, it wasn'tjust just mistakes made once in the government learn from them and moved on, actually we sought mistakes being made over and over again and it's because the prime minister was really really reluctant to take the tough and timely decisions that we needed to make and to be honest, his advisers are telling them to do things they just didn't advisers are telling them to do
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things theyjust didn't want advisers are telling them to do things they just didn't want to advisers are telling them to do things theyjust didn't want to do. sam, do you want to come back on that? , , , ., , that? yes, these things are things that? yes, these things are things that are what _ that? yes, these things are things that are what we _ that? yes, these things are things that are what we have _ that? yes, these things are things that are what we have to - that? yes, these things are things that are what we have to judge - that? yes, these things are things l that are what we have to judge over the arc— that are what we have to judge over the arc of— that are what we have to judge over the arc of time, new zealand and australia — the arc of time, new zealand and australia are way behind the uk in terms _ australia are way behind the uk in terms of— australia are way behind the uk in terms of whether they are in the disease — terms of whether they are in the disease and time will tell whether that causes problems later down the line made _ that causes problems later down the line made the right decision and it is hard _ line made the right decision and it is hard to— line made the right decision and it is hard tojudge right now quite how these _ is hard tojudge right now quite how these things will play out overall. and just — these things will play out overall. and just coming out of lockdown on monday after more than 100 days in the latest set of restrictions. i just wanted to move on to the telegraph, one of the reasons this national insurance rise is to deal with backlog cost by covid—i9 and this talks about a levy that will
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more than double that of any more meaningful impact on social care in the future. we meaningful impact on social care in the future. ~ ., ., ,, , the future. we have two issues here. the first is run _ the future. we have two issues here. the first is run nhs _ the future. we have two issues here. the first is run nhs funding - the future. we have two issues here. the first is run nhs funding and - the future. we have two issues here. the first is run nhs funding and but i the first is run nhs funding and but they've had on the plaintiff funding settlements in history. on average, the nhs gets about four point 4% increase in funding in real terms. and we're dealing with an ageing population and really, to keep the pace, we do need to put more money into the nhs and that is something we can afford is the society but that isn't something that is happened and independent think tens of looked like that — looked at that think tanks. and we have seen them every winter and we were starting to see a pattern where year on year, at
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some point during the winter, nonurgent operations get cancelled and i was going into the pandemic. so, this absolutely been a funding gap in the nhs we have this issue with social care which is that we just haven't been funding care for disabled adults and older people at sufficient rates and the amount of care available as shrunk and we know from them the number of older people who go without the help they need to carry out basic everyday tasks, like watching and we really need to live a dignified life and our order that number is growing. we have a decision to make. income tax actually got significantly cut over the last ten years and it's about the last ten years and it's about the quality of health service in order care that we want to see and we as a country to spend a lot less on health care as a proportion of gdp than countries like and the us for example, lots of countries on the continent. so this is just a
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question of, do we want to adequately fund our nhs are not? 0ur government has been doing that for the last decade and i think that something that needs to change. the prime minister quite quite a lot of credit for taking this on in saying that this is the tax rates. i don't want to do tax rates is but this is a necessary tax rise. he sounds like he might�*ve been in its own interest to be a little bit more about the numbers instead of him to come back to the second time. and dealing with the tax increase, certainly already, and grub— the tax increase, certainly already, and grub from the cabinet ministers about— and grub from the cabinet ministers about the _ and grub from the cabinet ministers about the tax rise and — anger from the cabinet — about the tax rise and — anger from the cabinet ministers. and the officials of the treasury that
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